Two key characters in battlement scene & Another cast member arrives (UPDATED!)

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This morning on the second day of filming in Zumaia, we witnessed the arrival of a Greyjoy fleet on shore and a tense reunion with characters who have not seen each other since the beginning of the show. This evening, the much theorized about battlement set built on top of the wall in Itzurun beach has been put to use for the first time, as two long-standing characters from the show shared a private conversation.

Before we get to this evening’s filming: The elusive Iain Glen has been spotted for the first time this year —In the Basque Country. Zumaia is the last Basque location, so this can only mean that Ser Jorah Mormont will return to her queen at Dragonstone.

With no more preamble, here is the photo of the battlement set brought to us by EFE:

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Photgraph by EFE

UPDATE: The Daily Mail is an eternal source of gossip and this hasn’t been an exception. They bring us much better pictures of the scene, as well as a behind the scenes look at Kit Harington and Emilia Clarke goofing around. A more serious Nathalie Emmanuel was also on set and in the costume we have seen her wear in every Dragonstone scene. As for Daenerys’ dress sense, let’s just say that those who have been eagerly waiting to see the Dragon Queen embrace her Targaryen nature will not be disappointed:

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Those are indeed Jon Snow and Daenerys Targaryen sharing a peaceful walk along Dragonstone‘s lowest battlements. What may the two monarchs be discussing? Of course, that’s anyone’s guess, which is part of the fun here. Some may say that by looking at these photographs we are spoiling our experience, but usually they are but a tease of what the show will offer us in the end. What do you think this scene will offer?

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    1. They look so good together!
      Even if they aren’t actually filming here, I’m certain they will share a scene together on the battlements at some point. So many feeeeeels

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    2. Kargaryen,

      Oh no.

      It said in those freaking leaks Jorah will get to DS. That he’s not gonna be happy with Jon because Dany. Later leaving with Jon to go North. Let’s hope these leaks ain’t true.

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    3. Daario: Who will you marry this time?
      Daenerys: I don’t know. Maybe Jon Snow…i mean no one…no i mean Jon Snow…for sure.

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    4. Another outdoor scene and another set of new costumes.
      Keep bringing them
      Iam very happy and they look like they are having fun filled shooting and enjoying themselves..

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    5. We discussed the hand-holding in the other thread. This image it looks like they are but in a clearer one it shows that they aren’t – hands just close.

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    6. Clob,

      Me too I try taking break from now and then just to see what new updates we have got..

      Kargaryen,

      He may be there to film in dragonpit scene ..

      If he does go to dragonstone I hope he finally admit to himself he will never have a chance ..

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    7. Rhaenys Stark:
      They look so good together!
      Even if they aren’t actually filming here, I’m certain they will share a scene together on the battlements at some point. So many feeeeeels

      Gosh, I feel like giggling every time a new picture of them together leaks. They are just soooo pretty together.

      I now see that there are 2 Dothraki trailing them. So, while Dany and Jon may be getting quite cozy, she still needs to be guarded. It would hilarious if there were also Stark soldiers chaperoning them too.

      Seriously, with every leak the wait for S7 seems to get longer and unbearable.

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    8. Geralt of Rivia,

      They film a lot of things in Spain, so he could be doing any number of things.

      Though if he’s going to Dragonstone, the poor man will perhaps be stuck forlornly holding a boom box outside Dany’s bedroom window while she and Jon make sweet, sweet love.

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    9. It looks like Kit & Emilia are taking a stroll not Jon & Dany,because i don’t think the cameras are rolling here as most people are looking the other way & there is too much commotion in the background which i don’t think would be allowed if they were filming.

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    10. Iam thinking this scenes or walking into place where they keep dragonglass. Jon is there for this also. It might be something else.

      Sean C.,

      I think Oldtown will be next because none of Dorne people are filming. Zumaia stands for Dragonstone, so if Ian is on the set, then he’s arriving at DS and leaks… well it said something about Jorah which I just mentioned and you’re not far from it.

      Just imagine.

      Dany. Ser Jorah, welcome back. I’ve missed you.
      Jorah: I found I cure my Queen. Where is Daario?
      Dany. Well, it was smart decision to end it and so I dumped him. He’s in Meereen.
      Jorah: **evil smile** in his head bow chica wow wow
      Jon enters the stage.
      Dany: May I introduce you… King in the North Jon Snow.
      Jorah. Oh shit. He’s even better looking.
      Ser Jorah leaves.
      Dany: Where are you going? You just came back?
      Ser Jorah: Friendzone, Khaleesi. He’s prettier than my ex-wife.

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    11. They’re filming in Zumaia until Saturday or Sunday and then moving things down to Seville next week. So if Iain is already in Spain, it looks like Jorah is indeed coming to Dragonstone. Hopefully minus the greyscale.

      Myname,

      Thanks for those. Is that Mylod directing again? That would strengthen the case for Jon’s arrival occurring in episode 3 rather than 4. Nobody build’s trust that fast.

      ETA: Never mind, Shakman makes more sense.

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    12. I notice from those new batch of photos that Dany’s new look kinda resembles Cersei’s from last season in terms of shape, colouring and the metal clasping.

      Honestly, I’m glad she’s not wearing black and red- its a really garish combo and Michellle Clapton knows better than to dress Emilia like a power ranger.

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    13. I noticed yesterday in the beach pictures that Missandei seemed to be wearing a pin of some kind on her right shoulder area. I dismissed it thinking it was just the blurry images making me see things, but today’s pics of her, Emilia, and Kit from the Daily Mail clearly show it is some sort of badge. I wonder if it’s just accent jewelry or if Dany bestowed a kind of “Hand of the Queen” badge on Missandei like she did Tyrion? “Official Interpreter of the Queen” badge perhaps?

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    14. Myname,

      Wonder what is going in that last pic. Jon, Dany, Missandei at the beach awaiting someone? Tyrion, Davos and Gendry? That guy si Shakman.

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    15. It doesn’t spoil it for me. It makes me excited for the full course. These are just appetizers although it dispels that icky Jon and Sansa speculation for a steam ice and fire combo and Dany and Jon (or if the rumors are true: Aegon Targaryen IV of his name.)

      I wonder what Jon’s titles would be if he survives the Game of Thrones? Is he “Father” of Dragons? Technically I’m sure he would be, in the novels at this point Dany’s womb has quickened again, I anticipate seeing something played out to suggest that as well.

      Geez, the rumors are that the “first” (catch-it FIRST) time they have sex will be while the Wall is coming down. Now, once I read that my mind was BLOWN. WOW! How hot is that going to be if they are interchanging shots of the Wall falling? Is it summer again yet?!?! July WHERE ARE YOU!?!?

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    16. Jenny,

      He just doesnt seem to get it…

      I sort of wish jon had taken lyanna mormont or arya with him to dragonstone ..
      They both would have gotten well with dany…
      And sansa too

      Kargaryen,

      I know right ..I love everything about it..
      It looks like missandei too have a pin like tyrion or its a design

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    17. Jack Bauer 24,

      No was for the whole leak.

      It sounds weird and a lot of things doesn’t make sense. Jorah was fine with Jon. Jon even try to give him Longclaw but he refused. I can see scene like this.

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    18. dragonbringer,

      Poor Jorah: everything goes to Jon – first his ancestral sword, then the women he loves… By the way, I just had a thought that Jorah was a double agent from the beginning and all that story about him selling some poachers into slavery was just a cover story (btw, not a very creative one – not more than “honorable Ned fathered a bastard”). IMO, Jorah simply found out that his wife was cheating him (she ended up “with another man”) and was thinking about joining the Night’s Watch but someone came up with another proposal.

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    19. OMG! I can’t wait to see if Jorah gets healed! Dany actually cried the last time she saw him (but she felt nothing when saying farewell to Daario!!). Hmmm…

      She is going to be surrounded by men who are more than interested lol!!!! What is a girl to do hahaha! Jorah is going to be so jealous when he meets Jon though because he is exactly what Dany should go for AND he has Longclaw lmao!! It’s just too much to take. If Arya shows up there I will lose it! With that it’s like all of the wishes I had for reunions/meetings come true (almost anyway).

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    20. Jorah and Jon will likely get along quote well. Imagine the stories about Jeor and that Jon has Longclaw! I think there could be a mutual respect there – Jon isn’t the rakish playboy that Daario is. 🙂

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    21. Kargaryen:
      JFC her outfit looks EPIC in those new Daily Mail photos!! Black with silver cape.

      I hate the outfit (reminds me too much of Cersei) but it does sort of have a Rhaegar-esque feel. How appropriate since she is conversing with the fruit of his loins. 🙂
      I really hope they keep the Jon/Dany alliance to strategic/political, I’m about done with the incest angle unless the show decides to not reveal it to Jon. Grosses me out either way but Jon knowing and going there would feel like too much of a stretch for him. And unless there is sufficient build-up to some type of “romance” between them, considering these short seasons, it will feel like fan-service more than story-based. This show does a lot of things really well and one of them is the slow, deliberate build-up of plots. I know the writer’s are very anxious to get the two main progs on screen together, so I am curious if they will go the Azor Ahai route and how quickly they will get there. And how it will all make sense for the viewer (depending on how they speed up the pairing).

      These pics already have me thinking the end of the season. It’s not a spoiler, just speculation, but will block anyway…

      I can’t be the only one thinking they WILL pair Dany/Jon romantically. Whether I like it or not is irrelevant but I would not be surprised if the last scene of the season is Jon and Dany marrying at Winterfell OR in the throne room in Kings Landing (should Cersei be done by then), intersected with shots of the Wall falling. The real battle will be season 8.

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    22. BunBunStark,

      No, true leaks debunk the false one. That “leak” said that Jorah will be on Dragonstone most of the season, but Jon is arriving in Ep 4 (or even early 5), Theon will probably show in Ep 6 as the KITN is already acting as a KOSK (King of the Seven Kingdoms) during that meeting, and good old Jorah is nowhere to be seen. That said he can arrive in Ep 5 at the earliest (Ep 6 even more probable), and no way that gives him “most of the season” on Dragonstone.

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    23. dragonbringer,

      I know you ship Jon and Dany. Even you gotta admit they’re gonna be involved in the books somehow whether theories about magic are true or feelings. But it won’t end well, because she’s not on the show or they’re tweaking it.

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    24. Man, if I were the actors and crew here I’d have a hard time not messing with the paparazzi. I’d have Tyrion chasing Jon with an axe, Theon contemplating a massive prosthetic cock from a merchant, a Dothraki playing a harmonica, Jorah with Jon in a headlock, Dany kissing Missandei, Davos making sand angels, etc etc.

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    25. Ivarareios,

      Working reasons, flirt ? Where did you hear that? Not want to invade their privacy or so but just curious.

      Still wonder where are Jon’s guards. Just dissapeared and they should be near their King, since they’re friendly.

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    26. JORAAAAAAHHHHH! So happy that he’ll be on DS with his Khaleesi and be with her when she goes to KL for the first time.

      Daenerys and Jon (or Emilia and Kit?) looking like they’re having a lot of fun!

      Apollo: I gotta say I kinda feel for Sue and the other mods here… it must be so difficult to keep up with all these leaks coming out several times a day.

      What about US? 😀 I am not getting anything done because of the barrage of juicy spoilers!

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    27. Quaithe,

      That would be absolutely brilliant, interwoving scenes of the two and cracks and pieces falling off the Wall, that’s cinematic gold right there.
      And considering the lastest photos we’ve seen in NI (aka the snow set with a blueish long structure that looks like the wall and huge lights shining durning the night) I would say that’s very verg likely since they’re probably filming the Wall coming down there in the next few days.

      I am so freakin excited.

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    28. I believe Jon and Dany will marry. Dany will have a child again.(I hope the child being named Eddard Targaryen) and GRRM will make a excellent lovestory about these two, but Daenerys will die at the end.

      Because:

      “When the sun rises in the West and sets in the East. When the seas go dry and mountains blow in the wind like leaves. When your womb quickens again, and you bear a living child. Then he will return and not before”

      When the sun rises in the West and sets in the East = Quentyn Martell
      When the seas go dry = Dany sets on fire the Dothraki Sea with Drogon (End of book 5)
      Mountains blow in the wind like leaves = Someone blows Joramun’s horn and that ”wind” causes the Wall’s crushing
      These ones are obvious = When your womb quickens again, and you bear a living child
      Then he will return and not before = Dany dies against the Others

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    29. M,

      Gotta have heels to clip into the stirrups of a dragon riding saddle! ??

      This and hand holding speculation are how rumors get started.

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    30. Geralt of Rivia,

      I don’t ship jon and dany ..I see it as a possibility and I don’t have a problem with that happening

      Even if say somethinh happems between them it wont be end game …which is what most of theory is about val as endgame queen

      Years ago I made a comment about why there is so much jon val shipping…its basically comes down to this ..
      Thought process goes like this jon is just pure virtue of everything the best there is and one who get him must be worthy of him..
      So what are the options..
      Arya and Sansa – no we can’t go there ..it will make jon look bad
      Margery- she is already married thrice
      Cersei – too old
      Ariaane – she acts like a slut
      Lyanna mormont – too young
      Myrcella – she is abomination of incest
      Dany – Unspeakable,the one who should not be named.

      So who is left in the books..that’s right Val …
      Its basically how this started and over the years i see it stretched by giving val a mystery background like that ..that’s why I hate the idea .
      And I can’t wait TWOW to be release to prove iam right or proven wrong ..

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    31. damm, Jon’s outfits are really cool, congratulations to Sansa (michele), one of my dreams is that Sansa makes Daenerys a dress, she would slay hahaha

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    32. evvie:
      Let’s just keep it to the show and the characters, no need to bring cheap gossip into it.

      Yes, this! Let’s not turn this thread into a gossip rags comments section.

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    33. Alvaricomg:
      damm, Jon’s outfits are really cool, congratulations to Sansa (michele), one of my dreams is that Sansa makes Daenerys a dress, she would slay hahaha

      Its nice Danys outfit i mean but its too similar to Cerseis outfit from last season. ….

      They should have gone for red and black.

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    34. Pigeon:
      Jorah and Jon will likely get along quote well. Imagine the stories about Jeor and that Jon has Longclaw! I think there could be a mutual respect there – Jon isn’t the rakish playboy that Daario is.

      Yeah, an encounter between Jon and Jorah would be intriguing. Jeor chose Jon as his Steward and successor, and Lyanna declared him King in the North; Jon has therefore previously had good working relationships with House Mormont. He also saved Jeor’s life and avenged his death. On the other hand, Jorah may be jealous of the young man that his cousin has publicly lauded and – more importantly – was a surrogate son to his own father. Add on the fact that this young man is apparently the son of the same Ned Stark that exiled him (something Jorah remained bitter about long after)……..and it all adds up to an interesting encounter before we take into consideration any jealousy regarding Daenerys.

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    35. Dragonstone is going to be crowded with all those arrivals!
      It must be weird for Jon to see Jorah and for Jorah to see Longclaw.

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    36. Kells,

      Actually, GRRM could have made Jon and Dany more distant relatives: first cousins would have been much more bearable. Unless…

      I just wonder with all those Fake Aria and Fake Agon in the books wouldn’t it be totally impossible that Daenerys is also fake? There were very few people who witnessed her birth and Queen Rhaella could be part of the conspiracy knowing that the Targarian line was almost extinguished and that Viceirys will need a bride. If she could find a right girl from some Blackfire line, that wouldn’t be impossible. That would explain Dany’s dreams about the house with the red door and add to nature vs nurture theme. But on the other hand, I wouldn’t like such twist very much.

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    37. I am glad for Kit Harington. Finally gets to shoot multiple weeks somewhere where his face isn’t smacked with piercing wind every 30 seconds and the sun doesn’t go down by 3 in the afternoon.

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    38. Wow, so much to take in and summer so far away…I don’t know if this helps or hinders..lol.
      I don’t ship Jon & Dany. This is not a love story and the end will be bittersweet. That tells me they win, but they lose. Who knows if anyone will be left standing at the end of S8, but for now I just hope that they keep it business between these two characters. I know that incest was widely accepted centuries ago, but somehow the thought of Jon and Dany when they are related just makes me go…ewww.
      I just wonder if/when he will find out who his father really is or if this will hang on forever. At this point he still thinks Ned is his father and Bran is the only one who knows for certain who his mother was…but Bran didn’t seem to know what Lyanna said so….does that mean he never finds out who his father truly was??

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    39. Don’t know what the future holds for the characters of Jon and Dany. Whatever it is it has been carefully planned from the beginning by GRRM and now told to D&D. I would say that GRRM has lot more “love story” and romanticism in some of his other works than many may realize. Actually, quite a bit .Though, the ending of those stories could be described as he has described this one, “bittersweet”. Usually one of the two dies, and the other is left alone, lonely, and sad to go on with life.

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    40. I keep noticing Missandei wearing a pin. I wonder what it is & if it is of any significance, like Tyrion’s hand of the queen pin or is it “just a pin”?

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    41. How long is the shooting in Spain set to last? Will they be going into December? Will there be significant breaks in filming in the meantime? If we get new photos every day, it’s going to get oversaturated. Not a good thing.

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    42. dragonbringer:
      Geralt of Rivia,

      Cersei – too old

      I love how that’s your biggest deal-breaker.

      Myrcella – she is abomination of incest

      Remind me who Dany’s parents were again…?

      I’m just playing. I’m all for Jon/Val in the books, but it’s looking like she’ll be an interlude at best.

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    43. evvie,
      Im sorry, i Made the wrong impression , i wanted just to point out the great interaction between the actors, anyway it was very “official ” at the time, so i didnt think was such a big deal . Im too much hyped.

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    44. Marvin:
      Some more (goofy:) pictures from Emilia and Kit’s shooting..

      http://haringtonweb.tumblr.com/post/152302369412/kit-harington-and-emilia-clarke-being-super-cute

      OMG, that granny sweater and head scarf on Emilia is too funny. And I love the look on her face and her pointing at Kit as he walks away. Clearly, they are enjoying filming together.

      Aside from Emilia being super adorable, the filming seems to have moved down to the beach. On it are Dany, Jon (in a different outfit from the one on the battlements), Dothraki, and possibly Missandei. I wonder if this scene is either them welcoming Davos and Tyrion back to Dragonstone or if it’s Jorah’s arrival.

      I hope we get even more pics throughout the day. And to think, they still have a few more days at this location. What in the world will leak then??

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    45. evvie,

      It’s possible the other sets are more secluded than this so we won’t have this much pictures.But honestly very few of the general audience see these pictures.It’s easy to avoid them.Look how many people were surprised that Jon was alive last year.

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    46. She’s leading an amazing life. Gets to travel around the world, makes fortune from what she’s doing, doesn’t have a boring 9-5 desk job, gets many free perks, gets to work in picturesque locations, meets/hangs out with many interesting and beautiful people, no wonder she’s like that. I’d thank God every day for such a life. The only downside to being a public figure is being a subject of judgment of many, the pesky paps and rags intent on creating gossip out of thin air.

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    47. Inga,

      I doubt seriously that a “fake” Daenerys would’ve been able to hatch the dragon eggs, much less for them to be so bound to her the way they are.

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    48. Fienix:
      Inga,

      I doubt seriously that a “fake” Daenerys would’ve been able to hatch the dragon eggs, much less for them to be so bound to her the way they are.

      And uh… walk round in a giant fire yet remain unburned…

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    49. Enjoy the pics now because once they leave Spain it is going to become rare.

      If Jorah is in Dragonstone this means he’s been cured! I need to know how.

      Side note: a squirrel could have just ran across and Emilia Clarke would be laughing that hard.

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    50. dragonbringer,

      Well, Jon’s unworthy of Brienne. She’s a highborn maid, heir to her house, while Jon’s a bastard.

      And can there be a child more an abomination of incest than Dany? How many generations of inbreeding of Targs?

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    51. OMG u guysss! I have so much homework and crap to do but I can’t take my eyes off this site! I can’t even keep up lol

      Emilia looks adorable in those tumblr photos and its nice to see Kit smiling and having fun. I heard him once say that working with Emilia is one of the things he has been looking forward to the most considering how close they are off-screen.

      Also, it seems like Dragonstone is becoming the center stage for our fav characters to meet up next season. Now imagine if we had Arya, Sansa, the Hound and Wildings there too lol! We would be getting a slumber party with people braiding each others’ hair and complaining about the cold weather

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    52. Fienix,
      Clob,

      I know – I really know: something really makes Dany able to hatch dragons, but her parents and grandparents failed to hatch them, so… I just thought that GRRM likes to make the point that prophecies are almost always misinterpreted and that the things are not what they seem, etc. But it’s tinfoil – I agree and it’s a wishful thinking resulting from the fact that GRRM is really playing with our perceptions about incest making it look almost normal. And intermarriage of the 2nd to 3rd grade relatives (aunt/nephew or uncle/niece) was very much disputed even in the Middle Ages and acquiring the papal dispense for such marriage was a big problem.

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    53. Inga,

      Lmao fake targaryen being able to hatch dragon eggs that were petrified for hundreds of years plus being more resistant to fire than ordinary people? No.

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    54. Stash Brannigan:
      NO….NO.NO.NO.NO…..Jon is only allowed to marry Val and only Val.

      Val was interesting at the beginning… Almost within a chapter of Val’s suggestion of decapitating diseased kids, we see Dany go out to feed, wash, and comfort sick people with the bloody flux… I think I’d rather ship Jon and Dany lol

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    55. Jorah: Hey Khalisi Tyrion tells me you and Daario broke up!
      Dany : Well yes, you see i have to make, marriage alliances and stuff and he doesn’t have a place here so…
      Jorah: Yeah i get it.Pity there not so many kings or greatlords anymore for you to marry ,you know because of the war ( finaly !!!! FINALY !!! This is your chance Jorah!!)
      Dany :Well….
      Jon : Your Grace.
      Jorah: Oh come on!!!!!
      Dany : he aslo has your family’s valyrian sword….sorry.
      Jorah :seriously ?!! Ned Stark’s son of all people !!!!

      Poor ser Jorah! 🙁

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    56. r-hard,

      Completely agree with you. Was just thinking about that.
      It’s also possible that she will die while giving birth to her and Jon’s child. Now THAT would be a bittersweet ending GRRM talked about.

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    57. Tristan,

      It makes sense because that is where Shireen was cured. Someone there or a record from their maester would’ve been left behind. Or … Melissandre is there.

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    58. Cathy:
      I’m not sure if someone else already posted, but here are more pictures: http://www.popsugar.com/entertainment/Jon-Snow-Daenerys-Targaryen-Game-Thrones-Set-Pictures-42614514#photo-42614514

      It’s really looking like Daenerys has put Missandei in some position of importance. I mean ‘officially’ of course as she was an important piece of her council before. I’m starting to think that perhaps that metal piece is indeed some kind of badge as opposed to just a simple accessory. Ignoring that though, the image of the three of them walking on the beach… she’s not meekly following Daenerys in a ‘have to’ sort of way, but off to her side in the “I’m part of this and I’m a big deal” kind of way. Maybe they don’t even need to address such a thing and it would seem like a natural evolution of the character. Still, I wonder what kind of position could be bestowed on her. She’s already chosen her Hand. I suppose Counselor Missandei sounds pretty important.

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    59. You’re welcome, guys. I saw the link on twitter and decided to share. 🙂

      Kargaryen: Who’s arriving though. Jorah? Tyrion/Davos?

      I don’t think it’s Jorah because Jon is in front of Dany and Missandei, so it’s probably someone he knows.

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    60. Luka Nieto:
      Apollo,

      What makes you think that? I mean, it could be another arrival, of course. But it could be anything else, right?

      Nothing in particular but Dany wasn’t present when Theon arrived in the earlier pics. Seems to be someone that they’re both interested by. It could be someone else arriving of course, such as Jorah, but I’m worried this is gonna be way too repetitive with several arrivals at the same location.

      Unless it’s Jon departing?

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    61. Pigeon,

      I think the first meeting between the two may be awkward. I’m sure Jorah will believe that Jon was responsible for his fathers death. Especially with Jon carrying Longclaw. With what Tyrian told him on the beach about his father being betrayed and killed by his own men. I wouldn’t be shocked if Jorah tries to kill Jon until learning that Jon avenged his father and that Longclaw was gifted to Jon….

      Where it could go from there is what will be interesting.

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    62. Apollo,

      I don’t think it’s Jon departing because he doesn’t have Longclaw. For what it’s worth, I do agree with you that it could be another arrival because unlike yesterday, Davos & Tyrion are absent but Dany is present. That’s why I think it’s either D&T returning from KL or Jorah’s initial arrival.

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    63. Where is Varys during all of these scenes? Perhaps he’s with the Dornish company. Maybe he is more of a indoors type of guy. Or I’ve missed the photos of Conleth.

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    64. Cathy,

      Interesting. Looks like Jon is really taking the front and center stance. And in the scene with Theon (who obviously intended to go and report to Queen Dany) Jon was also acting like a boss. So, what’s happening? Has he proclaimed himself the one true King of the Seven Kingdoms? Has Dany awakened a dragon? I kind of expected that, but not so soon, seven hels.

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    65. Idk why there are only Dany, Jon and Missandei there. Unless the dothraki are behind them. But it’s kinda logical that he would be in front of Dany and Missandei.

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    66. ramses:
      Where is Varys during all of these scenes? Perhaps he’s with the Dornish company. Maybe he is more of a indoors type of guy. Or I’ve missed the photos of Conleth.

      You missed them. He’s there and in some previous day photos. Not much of beach fellow I guess. 😛

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    67. But if someone is arriving wouldn’t the other actors be on set?Maybe they are looking at something like a fleet approaching or dragons flying I don’t know.

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    68. Apollo: Wow. Yet another arrival at Dragonstone. Jesus how many people are coming and going? Is this Davos and Tyrion returning?

      I tell you, DS is the happening place in Season 7, not King’s Landing any more! 😀 It’s gonna be a hub of activity and comings and goings; the place should be recalling when Aegon’s ancestor fled Valyria and settled on DS!

      Chill Pill: Now imagine if we had Arya, Sansa, the Hound and Wildings there too lol!

      Please. No to Arya and Sansa. They don’t really belong with Targaryens. The Wildings and Dothraki may have many interesting conversations, though! Hmmmm…… 😀

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    69. I suppose we can’t be certain that the three of them are being filmed walking on the beach rather than just walking to where they will be…

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    70. BunBunStark:
      Apollo,

      I don’t think it’s Jon departing because he doesn’t have Longclaw. For what it’s worth, I do agree with you that it could be another arrival because unlike yesterday, Davos & Tyrion are absent but Dany is present. That’s why I think it’s either D&T returning from KL or Jorah’s initial arrival.

      yeah I am thinking D&T too..this is Dany Jon and Missandi running down to the beach to met them and get an update…
      I dont think Jorah is gonna get a welcome comittee.. he will just show up and make his way to Dany.

      Jon will get “official” welcome with ceremony..greetings yada yada..
      Theon will get the “Imma kick your ass” welcome from Jon *
      the pics from today are the gang regrouping after whatever D &T do in KL

      ** interesting to me that Jon has Dothraki with him there and Missandi..as someone said earlier..almost as if he is already King to Dany’s Queen.. (unless totally reading the scene wrong and Missandi has rushed to the beach with the guards to prevent Jon from going all First Men on Theon and being judge and executioner)

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    71. Kay,

      I think Dany would like to meet Sansa and Arya , they have many things in common ( all of them on the run ,all alone being used as pawns , dreaming of home).They are the only people who can relate with Dany and the terrible childhood she had .Dany will feel symbathy for them ,because she knows how it feels to be a scared girl alone in the world and respect for surviving as she did.

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    72. steppenwolf: Val was interesting at the beginning… Almost within a chapter of Val’s suggestion of decapitating diseased kids, we see Dany go out to feed, wash, and comfort sick people with the bloody flux… I think I’d rather ship Jon and Dany lol

      Val- A strong wildling woman who is a lot like Ygrette, Jons only love so far; who has great flirtatious chemistry with Jon. A woman who seems to care for her people and is willing to do whatever she can for them. A woman who is willing to take care of a baby who is not her own, something Im sure Jon would personally connect to. Someone who is called the wildling princess that is “trapped in a tower”. Someone who who believes that all people should be free and worships the same old gods as Jon. or
      Dany- A young queen hell bent on bringing an army across the narrow see to and already war torn ravaged land to claim a Kingdom shes never been to just because she believe it belongs to her. A young girl who has left everyplace shes been to so far torn apart and broken. A young girl who seems to switch her stance on ruling at the drop of a dime. A queen who seems to be heading towards Mad king Arys type of madness sometimes.
      I ship Jon and Val

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    73. I almost feel like we’re being distracted by this filming and the “easy access” while things are happening elsewhere that nobody is paying attention to. That’s probably unlikely since local people to those areas would be spilling it too… still…

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    74. I wonder how Brienne will fit in because she has some scenes with Dany and Davos in the Dragonpit. Will they go there in episode 6/7? Why would Brienne go south again? Does she directly goes to Kingslanding or will she also make a stop at Dragonstone?

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    75. Konna,

      I’d like to see casual Dany and Arya scenes. To me it seems like they’d get along really well, like sisters. That is between instances of fire-bombing shit while riding on a dragon’s back and covert assassinations in disguise I mean. 🙂

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    76. I doubt it is Davos or Tyrion. Jon wouldn’t be rushing to see that person or perhaps it is Davos. Iam guessing Brienne or messanger from Winterfell. It’s someone Jon is expectingand not Dany. She wouldn’t be walking behind. Any have any pictures or video? I’d like to know who that is.

      TootScoot,

      Go on reddit/freefolk and you’ll find it.

      Cathy,

      Dany looks she saw someone familiar or impressive. Brienne?

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    77. In the latest arrival scene Jon looks a bit concerned, Daenerys and Missandei, curious. I wonder if it’s someone coming from the North (Brienne?) with some Northern tidings for Jon.

      Konna: I think Dany would like to meet Sansa and Arya , they have many things in common ( all of them on the run ,all alone being used as pawns , dreaming of home).

      They have very little in common with what they have chosen to do with their lives as all three grew up, from my POV. I know, others may have different opinions. Arya has chosen revenge, Sansa is about reclaiming her birthright, Daenerys is about bringing change and breaking the wheel. Anyway, just personal preference, I don’t want to see such a meet-up in just 13 remaining episodes. If it was 33, sure!

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    78. Cathy:
      Another version of that new picture of Jon, Dany and Missandei: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cvo-ax6WAAAOdA9.jpg

      The interesting thing here is that we can see a tree in front of them. Maybe they are actually going in the direction of the castle or some cave? Or maybe the tree is just in front of the photographer, I’m not sure.

      Had that one shot of Dany and Tyrion on the beach with Dany in a different costume, but impossible to tell the context of that scene. Now three are on the beach again , as if approaching something, a dragon? Dragons?

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    79. ramses,

      Yes I’ve seen those pictures, but it strange these are they only pictures with Varys and Greyworm. Previous seasons Greyworm was all the time with Dany, except for the time he was recovering from his wounds.

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    80. I think any remaining living Starks will be reunited, all together, at this point. Dany will then inevitably meet Sansa and Arya since the ‘real’ war is North. I base this on personal hopes and this; ” the lone wolf dies, but the pack survives.”.

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    81. Konna,

      Yes, whoever is coming, Jon looks worried and determined at the same time, but he clearly is the lead of the group and the formation looks very official. Hardly they are meeting Davos and Tyrion (and Gendry): IMO that welcoming should be happier and less official and the actors would have been spotted by the paparazzi too. So, what else? Some envoy from Cersey with the “Come and see” type letter approaching the shore or some other much more gruesome “message” like a dead body of someone they care about? I would like to see more photos…

      And BTW I wonder what role Missandei is going to play. So far she was a rather boring tertiary character that always looked to whitewashed and one-dimensional for GoT and now she’s almost in an equal position with Tyrion. I hope the showrunners will give some motivation for that.

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    82. Clob,

      If you mean in Spain yeah that’s not happening.GoT has a big crew and equipment etc.All we are seeing now is just a byproduct of the social media age we live in.

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    83. Can’t wait to see the kind of chemistry Emilia and Kit have onscreen considering they are such good friends. They look like they are having so much fun together, can’t wait for it.

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    84. Chilli,

      To account for this I could surmise Varys being dispatched to Targ friendly regions in Westoros to cement her support. Possibly. Despite his subtle diplomatic skills he doesn’t have the best reputation across the seven kingdoms. As far as what the worm of grey could be up to…. I have no
      idea.

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    85. If this is Brienne. Maybe Jon is worried something happened to Sansa?

      She’s her sworn sword. Maybe, she’ll bring news of Arya instead.

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    86. Stash Brannigan: Val- A strong wildling woman who is a lot like Ygrette, Jons only love so far; who has great flirtatious chemistry with Jon. (1) A woman who seems to care for her people and is willing to do whatever she can for them. A woman who is willing to take care of a baby who is not her own, something Im sure Jon would personally connect to. Someone who is called the wildling princess that is “trapped in a tower”. (2) Someone who who believes that all people should be free and worships the same old gods as Jon. or
      Dany- (3) A young queen hell bent on bringing an army across the narrow see to and already war torn ravaged land to claim a Kingdom shes never been to just because she believe it belongs to her. (4) A young girl who has left everyplace shes been to so far torn apart and broken. A young girl who seems to switch her stance on ruling at the drop of a dime. (5) A queen who seems to be heading towards Mad king Arys type of madness sometimes.
      I ship Jon and Val

      1) The same can be said for Daenerys
      2) Dany has been fighting slavery
      3) She’s been told by various people that the throne belongs to her family. Even Robert believed in the legitimacy of their claim. And for the purposes of the show, she’s made alliances with the Dornish, the Tyrells and part of the Ironborn.
      4) Yes but again for the purposes of the show, peace has returned to Meereen until we’re told otherwise. This storyline is still to be determined in the books.
      5) She’s shown no type of “madness”. She can be ruthless towards her enemies (and she’s done somethings that I don’t agree with) but there is no paranoia there nor any sort of sadism.

      You’re free to ship whom you want but it’s convenient that you focus on the positive aspects of one character and the negatives (with inaccuracies) of another.

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    87. Clob:
      Konna,

      I’d like to see casual Dany and Arya scenes.To me it seems like they’d get along really well, like sisters.That is between instances of fire-bombing shit while riding on a dragon’s back and covert assassinations in disguise I mean. ?

      Yes. Arya had great admiration for the Targaryen sisters, as she told Tywin at Harrenhal. I can see Arya idolizing Dany. Seeing Dany might help her reconnect with her childhood hopes and dreams…. ’cause right now, Arya is all about killing and doesn’t seem to have a plan for a future.

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    88. mas,

      I wrote a bit of analysis in several earlier posts. In short, my guess is that this is a decoy meant to mislead the fans with their interpretations. Just look at today’s scenes (Jon & Tyrion and the last photo of the trio), and think how they match to “Jon will give away his KITN title”. The only possible match would be if Jon gave away his KITN title to proclaim himself King of Westeros. (A’m not saying this is what has happened, but Jon is really shown to be in charge in both of the scenes). BTW, I wonder can it be Ep 6 or still Ep 5? Looks like too much development for one episode.

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    89. Sean C.,

      Aha ha that mental image of Jorah, playing music for them, boom chica wow wow. Us fangirls might get a proper Jon love scene yay! But it will be with Dany…not sure how I feel about that yet lol…

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    90. These pictures give me life! I def. ship Dany and Jon and will seriously take anything the show gives me for them, even if its a bittersweet ending. But if something happened I think it would be Jon sacrificing himself for her and any possible children. because its what jon does lol

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    91. Chilli,

      Exactly.

      One other leaker said Brienne and Arya will go south. Jon going North, fall in love with Sansa next season. His or her name is starkandlannister on reddit/freefolk. It sounds like fanfic.

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    92. Clob,

      We won’t have any spoilers or leaks (photos,videos ) from indoor scenes . And the leaks we have are being shoot on a beach were the locals can access unnoticed (from security and the stuff) ,hiding behind rocks or taking pictures from above ( cliffs). The location helps the paparazzi a lot.Also they propably shooting Kit’s Dragonstone scenes before his outdoors Winterfell/Wall scenes because of the weather .

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    93. dragonbringer,

      Iam not sure with Arya and Sansa. I mean, George intially wanted to go there. Who knows what he really plans but I agree it would be really icky, gross if he’d go into this. They grew up together, even if they never been that close. Still, calling each other brother and sister and than bang. Eww.

      Val is interesting or at least to me but it won’t be endgame. A lot of fans hate or are indifferent to her. Jon fans love her as sort of shield against Dany. 😀

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    94. Ser Jorah too?

      Just how many Dragonstone scenes are we going to have this year?

      I guess Joenerys is actually going to happen, huh?

      Hmm…

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    95. Green Chili:
      A question for you all: Is this Matt Shakman or just some random guy talking to Emilia in this photo?

      Pic from today

      For comparison:

      Matt Shakman

      Could well be!

      Some have speculated that he’s only directing one episode mid-season so does this mean this scene is from ep 5?

      This backs up my theory that this particular scene (with Jon/Dany/Missandei) is indeed Jon’s departure.

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    96. Methinks Dany has awakened Jon’s dragon, if you catch my drift.

      And please don’t bother, I’ll see myself out…

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    97. George,

      Maybe or maybe not. Hard to say but technically Jon’s potentional marriage to anyone out of trio Dany, Sansa, Arya is not incest by the laws or is it? Cousins do marry, right? I think Tywin and Joanna were cousins, Ned’s parents. Aunt/nephew is cool to laws, not what it means to characters or emotions just law.

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    98. Inga:
      Cathy,

      Interesting. Looks like Jon is really taking the front and center stance. And in the scene with Theon (who obviously intended to go and report to Queen Dany) Jon was also acting like a boss. So, what’s happening? Has he proclaimed himself the one true King of the Seven Kingdoms? Has Dany awakened a dragon? I kind of expected that, but not so soon, seven hels.

      selena:

      ** interesting to me that Jon has Dothraki with him there and Missandi..as someone said earlier..almost as if he is already King to Dany’s Queen.. (unless totally reading the scene wrong and Missandi has rushed to the beach with the guards to prevent Jon from going all First Men on Theon and being judge and executioner)

      Yeah, Jon definitely looks very comfortable there. I wonder if Tyrion already suggested a political marriage for Jon and Dany, and Jon is already starting to enjoy the idea of being King, like when he became Lord Commander.

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    99. Apollo:

      This backs up my theory that this particular scene (with Jon/Dany/Missandei) is indeed Jon’s departure.

      It looks someone is arriving and not departing.

      selena,

      Dothraki were there most likely to avoid any conflict or protect Missandei. They’re like guards for them. Not Unsullied but they might be elsewhere. People are getting really on that Jon/Dany train. 😀

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    100. Inga,

      Maybe he has been wounded…. but wounded doing what? Taking dragonstone? In the books

      the Lannisters and the Tyrells, Loras in particular, go to great length to take back Dragonstone from Stannis loyalists.

      Maybe Dany meets resistance when landing on Dragonstone shores.

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    101. Clob: The others can come but let’s not invite Sansa.?

      I like you.

      Clob:
      Konna,

      I’d like to see casual Dany and Arya scenes.To me it seems like they’d get along really well, like sisters.That is between instances of fire-bombing shit while riding on a dragon’s back and covert assassinations in disguise I mean. ?

      I like you even more. ?

      Mark the Funny Whore:
      Pigeon,

      I think the first meeting between the two may be awkward. I’m sure Jorah will believe that Jon was responsible for his fathers death. Especially with Jon carrying Longclaw. With what Tyrian told him on the beach about his father being betrayed and killed by his own men. I wouldn’t be shocked if Jorah tries to kill Jon until learning that Jon avenged his father and that Longclaw was gifted to Jon….

      Where it could go from there is what will be interesting.

      That is an interesting thought as well. Although I’m not sure that Jorah would try anything, especially as Dany and Tyrion are obviously ok with Jon. He did spend a lot of time with Tyrion so he may have heard more about Jon than we think (would the news of Jeor’s death also include the fact that the mutineers like Karl were killed?)

      To my mind, Jorah accepted long ago that Dany is not going to ‘love’ him in any romantic or sexual way (Emilia has stated that she does indeed love him, as in Season 6 she pretty much shows it when he is leaving). But he is her oldest friend. Since episode 1….and I’ve expected him to be dead for a couple of seasons now. Hope this isn’t the one either. ☺

      Sorry, harping on a bout my favourite male character.

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    102. George: Just how many Dragonstone scenes are we going to have this year?

      I would say that there would be a lot. We only have a few main locations left that have been used throughout; King’s Landing, Winterfell and Castle Black (“nobody” is there so only need it for big scenes). That would leave just two heavily used locations other than the lesser/rarely used; Eyrie, The Twins, Riverrun, Pyke, Oldtown, Inn at the Crossroads, Sunspear, etc. Dragonstone appears to be the third to replace Meereen and Braavos.

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    103. Pigeon:
      Man, if I were the actors and crew here I’d have a hard time not messing with the paparazzi. I’d have Tyrion chasing Jon with an axe, Theon contemplating a massive prosthetic cock from a merchant, a Dothraki playing a harmonica, Jorah with Jon in a headlock, Dany kissing Missandei, Davos making sand angels, etc etc.

      LOL.
      That sounds awesome, actually.

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    104. George,

      What was the place they were only going to shoot 1 week but with at least 3 directors? Could that be Dragonstone related or somewhere in Kingslanding?

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    105. Geralt of Rivia:
      George,

      Maybe or maybe not. Hard to say but technically Jon’s potentional marriage to anyone out of trio Dany, Sansa, Arya is not incest by the laws or is it? Cousins do marry, right? I think Tywin and Joanna were cousins, Ned’s parents. Aunt/nephew is cool to laws, not what it means to characters or emotions just law.

      But for Jon to marry one of his “cousins”, he would have to prove he is not Ned’s son, and that is almost impossible. So far, we only have Bran and maybe Howland Reed, but they have a biased opinion on House Stark, so no one would believe them. And in the books we have Robb’s letter legitimizing Jon as a Stark and making him King in the North. So I doubt there is another document conveniently proving Jon is a Targaryen.

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    106. Maybe they’re just adding to the beginning of the scene of Theon’s arrival and Daenerys stops herself from going all the way to allow Jon to work out his emotions on his own. It’s not like he has a sword so the worst he would do is “Ramsay” his face. 🙂

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    107. Jay Targ,

      People can prefer one “ship” over another for any reason they want. Who cares that two women have similarities, maybe a poster just happens to like, or see a better match in, one personality over another. It’s subjective opinion. It’s perfectly fine to discuss and debate different view points, but why does it have to turn many people here defensive… cause it can come off as accusatory.

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    108. ramses,

      Yeah, that could be enough to make Jon capable of challenging Dany’s claim or something like that. But to marry girls publicly known as his sisters, he would need proof, or it would be a scandal. Actually, even with proof, the people in Westeros would not approve because they grew up as siblings, in the same house. Honor is one of the most important things in Westeros, so it would ruin Jon’s reputation.

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    109. Yeah as someone has said maybe Jon is leaving. Dany and Jon don’t seem to be happy but Missandei is not giving a shit lmao

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    110. Konna:
      Inga,

      Interesting… I saw as a badass line and nothing more but maybe it meant something.

      I always thought it was simply a little hint that Daenerys knew Valyrian. It was during those scenes when she was pretending not to know it.

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    111. Charlie Stark,

      If all the starks get together, I’d imagine it would be in Winterfell which is in a studio not outside like this, so we won’t see any pics or get videos of them together. The most we will get is seeing the actors in the same area. We’ve been more than blessed with this, but it won’t be the case for all the filming.

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    112. Cathy,

      Maybe. Or they accept whatever the person with dragons who saved them from whitewalkers dictates. Who knows what will go on in this crazy world? For the record, I don’t wanna see a Sansa or Arya/ Jon ship either. Strangely enough, I am totally on board a Jon/ Dany ship. GRRM what have you done to me?

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    113. Jay Targ,

      Thank you!
      I think it will be Dragonstone because only director Alan Taylor hasn’t visited the set. If he indeed directs the last episode (s), it would match because Dany will be in Kingslanding by then.

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    114. Cathy: But for Jon to marry one of his “cousins”, he would have to prove he is not Ned’s son, and that is almost impossible. So far, we only have Bran and maybe Howland Reed, but they have a biased opinion on House Stark, so no one would believe them. And in the books we have Rob’s letter legitimizing Jon as a Stark and making him King in the North. So I doubt there is another document conveniently proving Jon is a Targaryen.

      Rhaegar could have written a will, just like Robb. There is actually some similarities in their situations. Both left their women behind before going into an unknown situation, where they would very possibly have to face a battle. Rhaegar against the rebels, and Robb was planning on taking Moat Caillin.

      I dont know, it has always seem very logical to me that Rhaegar would have had a will. He was leaving for battle and had a baby on the way. It would almost be illogical if he didn’t leave a will somewhere.

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    115. Jay Targ: Val

      Yes I totally cop to that, I know I was focusing on the negative. I was doing that on purpose as response the other quote about Val wanting to decapitate dead children vs dany feeding the sick. Its easy to focus in on one thing. I don’t mind Dany but im not the biggest fan of her character. I would love to see her go towards the big bad and no the savior but im gonna enjoy the story however its told.

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    116. Rosaadriana:
      Im worried about Yara. I was not happy to see Theon on shore.

      What I think D&D are going to do with Yara (Asha) is a show version of “The Forsaken” WoW chapter but with Yara being the captive, not Damphair. I don’t foresee a happy ending for her…

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    117. But as I think about Gwendoline Christie is not in Spain. Ian Glenn arrived, so could it be return of Ser Jorah? Dany seems surprised on one of the pics. heck, so many possibilities. But then why Jon looks worried? Wish some paparazzi was able to capture who it was.

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    118. Chilli:
      George,

      What was the place they were only going to shoot 1 week but with at least 3 directors? Could that be Dragonstone related or somewhere in Kingslanding?

      Wasn’t that supposed to be the “Dragon Pit” in King’s Landing?

      Although with all this Dragonstone shooting, I wonder if that’s not going to be Dragonstone as well? Isn’t there a dragon pit in Dragonstone too?

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    119. ramses,

      Yeah, I’m more of a neutral fan, but I’m learning to enjoy the idea of Jon and Dany because I think it’s the most probable option. So if it really happens, I’m prepared, lol.

      As for Jon’s true parentage, I like the logic and politics in ASOIF, and that is why I don’t think GRRM would do something unrealistic. Aegon is a good example. We could see the problems he has trying to prove he is the legit son of Rhaegar. Or the rumors about Jaime and Cersei’s relationship and their children. Some people believed them, other people didn’t. Jon would have the same problems.

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    120. Boojam:
      So the Melisandre deal came to nothing?

      I don’t think we know; there haven’t been any additional photographs…although to me that dress was indeed identical to the one Carice wears…

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    121. Geralt of Rivia,

      Arya and Jon are perfect the way they are ,they have the sweetest relationship. And Sansa/Jon doen’t seem right to me.Not just the “incest” part but i don’t see any romantic chemistry between the characters ( not the actors ,they are very good together).My only problem with Dany/Jon is that i really want him to stay in the North .”You may not have my name but you have my blood”, in the books Jon thinks about Ghost’s eyes and at first he thinks they are red like Mel or something like that but then he decides that no they are not fiery red but red as the tears of the old gods ( i don’t remember the quote).Rhaeghar is his biological father but he will always be Ned’s son . To me he is more a wolf than a dragon .It’s clear (especially in the books) Ned lives in him ,nothing can change that and he will melt in the South (same goes for all the Stark children).(“Starks are like the “snow” when they go South they melt away ). Maybe if the Red keep is destoyed, they move North?

      Ned is my Got version of Mufasa !” He lives in you, he lives in me , he watches over everything we see, into the water ,into the truth ,in your reflection,he lives in you”

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    122. Chilli: Thank you!
      I think it will be Dragonstone because only director Alan Taylor hasn’t visited the set. If he indeed directs the last episode (s), it would match because Dany will be in Kingslanding by then.

      I ve wondered if this place couldn’t perhaps be somewhere like Duskendale. Duskendale is almost perfectly situated between Kings Landing and Dragonstone. It is very close to Kings Landing and it is on the mainland. It might be easier to take someplace such as Duskendale before launching a full out attack on Kings Landing. And of course Duskendale also has some history with Aerys.

      But I am properly wrong, they are obviously focusing on Dragonstone so it makes sense that this could be a courtyard within Drangonstone.

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    123. Konna: Arya and Jon are perfect the way they are ,they have the sweetest relationship. And Sansa/Jon doen’t seem right to me.Not just the “incest” part but i don’t see any romantic chemistry between the characters ( not the actors ,they are very good together).My only problem with Dany/Jon is that i really want him to stay in the North .”You may not have my name but you have my blood”, in the books Jon thinks about Ghost’s eyes and at first he thinks they are red like Mel or something like that but then he decides that no they are not fiery red but red as the tears of the old gods ( i don’t remember the quote).Rhaeghar is his biological father but he will always be Ned’s son . To me he is more a wolf than a dragon .It’s clear (especially in the books) Ned lives in him ,nothing can change that and he will melt in the South (same goes for all the Stark children).(“Starks are like the “snow” when they go South they melt away ). Maybe if the Red keep is destoyed, they move North?

      Ned is my Got version of Mufasa !” He lives in you, he lives in me , he watches over everything we see, into the water ,into the truth ,in your reflection,he lives in you”

      I think most people would just like to see Jon staying in the North, he is truly of the North. But this might be part of his bittersweet ending, he might have to stay in the South.

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    124. Jenny,

      But Jon didn’t arrive wearing his cloak if you recall, and he has 6 men with him. They could easily have taken his belongings back onboard his ship as well as long claw, or his blade maybe returned as he re-embarks.

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    125. Charlie Stark,

      Beautiful. Especially ending with Jon, Lyanna, Ned and Cat. Truly masterpiece and music is good.

      Konna,

      I agree. Jon and Sansa or Arya is weird and audiene would not like it. Although, Jon and Sansa do have an awesome chemistry but it would be gross since they grew up. Also not a fan of Jon and Dany. I don’t know, but Jon could be Jon. I mean, he’s got plenty of bussiness to take care of. It’s not forbbiden to have a love but if possible no family sex.

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    126. Just to add, those 4 new photos are simply Kit, Nathalie and Emilia walking on the beach, it’s not from a scene- Kits smoking a fag for one thing.

      So they’re walking to a particular area presumably at the base of the cliffs where Theon landed before (or even the caves).

      In any case, it’s no indication at all of Jon being in command because he’s walking ahead of Dany, it’s just that Kit is simply walking faster than Emilia.

      Look with the eyes..

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    127. George: What I think D&D are going to do with Yara (Asha)is a show version of “The Forsaken” WoW chapter but with Yara being the captive, not Damphair. I don’t foresee a happy ending for her…

      I think she be

      tied under the ships figure head

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    128. Geralt of Rivia:
      Charlie Stark,

      Beautiful. Especially ending with Jon, Lyanna, Ned and Cat. Truly masterpiece and music is good.

      Konna,

      I agree. Jon and Sansa or Arya is weird and audiene would not like it. Although, Jon and Sansa do have an awesome chemistry but it would be gross since they grew up. Also not a fan of Jon and Dany. I don’t know, but Jon could be Jon. I mean, he’s got plenty of bussiness to take care of. It’s not forbbiden to have a love but if possible no family sex.

      …Zero. Jon and Sansa have zero chemistry.

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    129. I expect Jon and Dany to fall in love and Dany will become pregnant.

      Jon will then kill and be killed by the Night’s King.

      The final scene of the series jumps ahead in time, a young prince runs through the Red Keep toward the Grand Maester, who he asks to tell him a story about his father. Grand Maester Sam will then starts telling of how he first met his father at The Wall. The camera pulls away and floats above King’s Landing and Westeros.

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    130. Apollo,

      Kit is smoking but in other they do look in character.
      It can’t be from meeting with Theon, Davos is not there.
      Jorah wouldn’t be someone Jon would seek out.
      Gwendoline is not in Spain so far but she would make the best sense.

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    131. Daenerys: Have you come to bend the knee?

      Jon: No, I come for dragonglass. That’s the only thing that can kill a White Walker besides Valyrian steel.

      Jorah: My father had a Valyrian steel sword. What happened to them?

      Jon: Ummmmm…..

      Daenerys: Ser Jorah, I don’t know how to say ‘holding hands’ in the Common Tongue.

      Jorah: There is no word for ‘holding hands’ in the Common Tongue.

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    132. Geralt of Rivia:
      Apollo,

      Kit is smoking but in other they do look in character.
      It can’t be from meeting with Theon, Davos is not there.
      Jorah wouldn’t be someone Jon would seek out.
      Gwendoline is not in Spain so far but she would make the best sense.

      Exactly, so either it’s Tyrion/Davos returning or Jon leaving (on the assumption this is ep5 due to the director present).

      Still not so sure they’re in character there though, but their combined presence indicates they’re filming a scene together around this time.

      We may get a new batch tomorrow morning- folks are asking the guest house there if they can come and take more photos..

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    133. Anon,

      I would say they do have a really good chemistry and some people intereprated it as romantic. Since then a lot of videos, theories and people do take a careful look at them. Shipping started with their meeting at episode 4 and it turned into war with those who wants Jon and Dany. Basically, throwing Jon around like a piece of meat. With a glorious man bun.

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    134. Apollo: or Jon leaving (on the assumption this is ep5 due to the director present).

      It’s a good point, that by Ep. 7, Jon should be about to leave for Winterfell. He has his duties up north, and he can’t do those by staying in the south. However, wouldn’t he wait for his Hand, Davos, to accompany him back? Davos has been seen at the Dragonpit with Brienne, which is presumably Ep.7, so what prompts Jon to go back alone without Davos?

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    135. Clob,

      I agree. It would surely make little sense for them to hold hands at this point. For what purpose? Unless they are being intimate (which would make little sense after presumably, a brief-ish meeting), and in which case, they might link arms instead.

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    136. Pigeon:
      Jorah and Jon will likely get along quote well. Imagine the stories about Jeor and that Jon has Longclaw! I think there could be a mutual respect there – Jon isn’t the rakish playboy that Daario is.

      Now that you mentioned, i can’t wait to see a scene with Jon and Jorah. That would be interesting..since you know, they have a lot in common to talk about…*Dany*.

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    137. Pigeon,

      I agree, It’s obvious Dany loves Jorah. She wouldn’t have forgiven him so many times if she didn’t and she always shows more of her heart when she’s with him. I adore their scenes.

      The thing is Dany’s brother was lacking in her hopes for family but Jorah came along practically nurtured, took care of her, mentored her, told her stories, comforted her and taught her valuable lessons and taught her how to be a leader. So naturally Jorah filled the gap of the family she always yearned for, so she loves him as family and she always will and that is why he is friendzoned but he will always be the person she needs the most. It was quite shocking to her in the book when she found out he loved her because she saw him as a father figure.
      I look forward to seeing more Dany and Jorah and I hope he survives to see her achieve her dreams and achieves his own happiness along the way and hopefully connects with his neice Lyanna.

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    138. Kay,

      There’s no indication that Jon leaves Davos behind. Javi from L7R said that there are at least five top-level protagonists present in the dragon pit, and WotW only disclosed Brienne and Davos while indicating that others are there as well. Just because they didn’t name drop Jon, it doesn’t mean he isn’t there.

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    139. Apocalyptic queen:
      Kay,

      Hmmm… Maybe the Wall falling..

      The Wall will fall in Episode 7. No doubts.

      elybe: Just because they didn’t name drop Jon, it doesn’t mean he isn’t there.

      Yes, that’s quite true. So the timeline: Jon arrives at DS around 7.03 or 7.04 with Davos, Davos goes on the mission with Tyrion (& Gendry) in 7.05 while Jon remains at DS. Then Daenerys, Davos, Jon, others are at the dragonpit in KL in 7.07. Does this mean Jon doesn’t go back North? That is what puzzles me.

      SPAK,
      Up on the cliffs, there is green screen. Does a dragon come down there to say Hi?

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    140. Man, from those pics, Kit seems to be always smoking when he is not filming. I wonder if he has seen the new study which says that smoking is the highest killer due to preventable causes? Causes all types of cancer. 1 in 4 who smoke 5+ cigs a day are likely to get some form of cancer and he seems to be smoking more than that. Couple that with his drinking habits, he is not going to be very healthy as he becomes older. Not to mention, all that second hand smoke his fellow actors are inhaling.

      I hope he at least cuts down on the number of cigs he smokes per day. Sorry, for the little rant, but smoking just annoys me.

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    141. Last photo Kit is showing Emilia something on his phone, probably one of lustful comments here about their characters having sex.

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    142. First time commenting here!

      Love reading everyone’s comments, especially those who are shipping Jon/Dany.
      I’m personally not shipping them, most likely because I am pretty biased myself and also I’m a huge Jon fan but not so much Dany.

      I’ve read all those leaked spoilers and I’m pretty much calling bulsh!t on most of them.
      At first when I read that in the season finale that Jon and Dany will have sex on the boat, I thought it was just some hardcore Jon/Dany fan hoping it would come to fruition. But now I think about it, it’s actually quite possible that it would happen. But just because Jon and Dany do the do doesn’t mean they are end game! If anything, Jon could very much be one of the 3 betrayals Dany gets, one of them being love.

      Maybe the betrayal is that Jon returns to The North and marries Sansa instead? That could very well piss Dany off as everyone knows she hates not getting what she wants! That, or if Jon is Azor Ahai then Dany can be his Nissa Nissa and Jon will stab Dany in the heart and pull out a flaming sword! Who knows….

      Jon doesn’t seem to be one to make the first move when it comes to woman. As previously shown with Ygritte stripping down to Jon before they had sex and Melisandre stripping down in hopes she would seduce Jon into making a shadow baby, I have no doubt it will be Dany presenting herself to the KINT and Jon just giving in.

      Yeah, I just think whatever Dany has for Jon, it’ll go unrequited, simply because Jon is falling for Sansa! (Told ya I’m biased!) XD

      And I also think Dany and her dragons will die at the end …

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    143. SPAK:
      There’s more pics of Dany/Missandei/Jon at Just Jared. They seem to be looking at something…?
      http://www.justjared.com/photo-gallery/3793619/two-game-of-thrones-characters-meet-in-spoiler-filled-set-pics-30/

      There’s a big green screen up on the battlements, so maybe they’re looking up at a dragon? That would explain why there are no other actors on the beach besides Kit, Emilia, and Nathalie. Maybe the ladies give Jon an up close and personal look at one of his “cousins”.

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    144. Kells,

      I agree with you, I believe in S7 we will get a “happy” ending marriage, wall falling down, etc Like the show has many parallels Jon will leave for war just like his father did Rhaegar and leave his “expecting” love Danny behind. Bittersweet, Jon dies in heroic fashion in the battle of the dawn and his death seals the victory, Dany dies in childbirth, kingdom is safe and young baby is safe and groomed for leadership by Tyrion.

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    145. i think from the pics they may have filmed two seperate scenes

      1) Dany and Jon talking on the battlements

      2) Jon, Dany and Missandei talking and looking at something on the beach.

      (Jon was wearing more relaxed clothes on the battlements but on the beach they added his metal armour parts to his clothes, if it was just one scene they would’ve put that on when they dressed him originally)

      i don’t think this is him leaving either, the first pic we had of Jon and Dany looked like he was ready to go back to Winterfell with his typical thick winter cape and furs while his still wearing more like the clothes he arrived in here.

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    146. I don’t think Dany and Jon will start a romance anytime soon. I like to think that both GRRM and D&D are better than that.

      The characters might consider marriage for political reasons, but a romance would cheapen the story. Both of them have already fallen deeply in love with people that are dead now, they are first degree relatives and both are concerned with far more important matters that will play out over the dozen of episodes we have left.

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    147. HotPinkLipstick,

      elybe,

      Its their words not mine.
      I thought it went without saying what they view of dany….even to this day you can see the same person calling dany that at least a hundred times a day

      Kay,

      I would like to see arya and dany meeting. They would undersrand each other very well and become sisters..

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    148. George,

      Let’s not forget that D&D aren’t immune to trolling. Remember last October when we were going crazy because Sibell Kekelli was spotted in peasant attire in Peniscola/Mereen? Or the White Walker torso appearing in a 2nd story window during the Girona filming?

      I’m not saying that they’ll be no Melissandre at Dragonstone; just that D&D would love to throw us waaay off track with our speculations.

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    149. I don’t think it’s jon leaving ..the very first picture of jon and dany we got where he was climbing down to meet dany was the scene I thought is the scene where he leaves because he was properly dressed..
      I am not even sure he is going to leave. Something tells me He will be staying in the south or more likely where dany is I guess

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    150. evvie,

      Yes! She is our Val! I’m holding out for GRRM finishing those books and that she and Jon are together. However, There are mysteries about her, too that make me wonder who/what she really is.

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    151. BunBunStark,

      I made a comment regarding the same thing. Every picture with Massandei shows her wearing that pin. I really think it might be that Dany has given her the pin & given her a higher position of authority, like she did with Tyrion. Anyone else have any thoughts on this?

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    152. keltia:
      George,

      Let’s not forget that D&D aren’t immune to trolling. Remember last October when we were going crazy because Sibell Kekelli was spotted in peasant attire in Peniscola/Mereen?Or the White Walker torso appearing in a 2nd story window during the Girona filming?

      I’m not saying that they’ll be no Melissandre at Dragonstone; just that D&D would love to throw us waaay off track with our speculations.

      Good point. I forgot about those from last year, LOL. I recall the discussion what Sibell’s role would be.

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    153. Kimberly of Westeros:
      BunBunStark,

      I made a comment regarding the same thing. Every picture with Massandei shows her wearing that pin. I really think it might be that Dany has given her the pin & given her a higher position of authority, like she did with Tyrion. Anyone else have any thoughts on this?

      I thought the same when I saw the new photos where she has that pin. I don’t think she had it with her in the first leaked images from Bermeo/Bakio? So it could mean between the first photos leaked and these last ones she could have earned it from Dany and it probably means somethinfb yeah.

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    154. Din:
      The characters might consider marriage for political reasons, but a romance would cheapen the story.

      I don’t see how romance would cheapen it all. GRRM has talked in the past about how love and sex are hugely important parts of the human experience, and they don’t just stop happening in crises.

      Both of them have already fallen deeply in love with people that are dead now,

      And? You don’t get just one, and Dany has already taken another lover.

      they are first degree relatives

      Not an issue in Westeros, nor in the eyes of the author.

      and both are concerned with far more important matters that will play out over the dozen of episodes we have left.

      As stated above, people don’t just tidily put away their personal issues in crises. Indeed, the series is replete with people doing the opposite (including Jon).

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    155. dragonbringer:

      I am not even sure he is going to leave.Something tells me He will be staying in the south or more likely where dany is I guess

      Almost whole season in the south? That doesn’t make sense since Jon as KitN being absentee for such a period. It’s like they gave him title just to hang around in the south. Important meetings but once they manage to broke a deal, he’ll go North. Sansa is hardly going to prepare them for white walkers or others. He could instruct Tormund and who knows how other Northern lords are seeing white walkers matter from their point of view.

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    156. Sean C.:

      That’s true. Jaime and Brienne while being on the run and so on. But question is even how to do for it to be believeable. Because I just can’t see Jon all of sudden fall in love. Not after Ygritte, being killed, losing family and what he saw. He seems to be putting else away and concentrate to protect his family and defeat white walkers. Dany basically resigned on love or looks at it this way.

      Daario was more like a sex toy. She admitted that she probably never loved him and certainly not the way it was with Drogo. Who seems to be love of her life=Nissa Nissa.

      It might be for Jon eventually, when he finds out they’re related

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    157. Geralt of Rivia: Almost whole season in the south? That doesn’t make sense since Jon as KitN being absentee for such a period. It’s like they gave him title just to hang around in the south. Important meetings but once they manage to broke a deal, he’ll go North. Sansa is hardly going to prepare them for white walkers or others. He could instruct Tormund and who knows how other Northern lords are seeing white walkers matter from their point of view.

      Robb didn’t really stay in Winterfell when he was King in the North. If helping Dany take King’s Landing ensures her help, dragons, and possibly wildfire, Jon will do it. This could be their only chance to survive. And Bran and Arya will probably go back to Winterfell too. They could take care of things there until Jon returns.

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    158. Sean C.: I don’t see how romance would cheapen it all.GRRM has talked in the past about how love and sex are hugely important parts of the human experience, and they don’t just stop happening in crises.

      And?You don’t get just one, and Dany has already taken another lover.

      Not an issue in Westeros,nor in the eyes of the author.

      As stated above, people don’t just tidily put away their personal issues in crises.Indeed, the series is replete with people doing the opposite (including Jon).

      I agree. I don’t see the problem with romance or sexual attraction. It’s a natural part of life. It’s actually realistic that too young, good looking people would feel attracted to each other.

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    159. Thi Targaryen,

      Jorah is very much in love with her and devoted to her
      Jon barely knows her. They have more important things to talk about.Jeor’s death,Mormont family and of course his excile from the North.I really hope Jon’s romance with Dany ( if there is any ) progress slowly and develop properly(Jon/Ygritte , Dany/Drogo) , instead of being forced (we meet ,we immediately fall love at first sight). Like Dany/Daario ,it felt random,it felt forced and zero chemistry .

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    160. I am starting to think in the novel series that Jon/”Aegon”(I am not sure if he is an Aegon in the novels but it would make sense based on Aemon telling Jon, “The realm needs an Aegon, not an Egg…” Martin doesn’t waste a lot of space.) and Dany are actually the next dynasty of Targaryen’s.

      I base this off of the prophecies. In DUNK & EGG, Aegon recites a prophecy of the return of the dragons. Jojen gives a similar prophecy of the wolves. There is also Dany’s vision in the House of the Undying “A blue flower growing in a chink in a wall of ice, filling the air with sweetness…” being part of the Bride of Fire prophecies. To be a Bride of Fire I imagine one would have to marry a representation of this blue flower that is also fire, Jon Snow.

      I know that may be corny but it seems to be where the crumbs are leading. I’m not mad about that, bring on the steam. We will have enough deaths. To watch Dany and Jon make love while the wall collapses just sounds hot. Ugh, the teenage girl in me is sooo coming out here.

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    161. Cathy,

      No Robb when he was king didn’t stay in Winterfell and in the meantime the castle got sacked. I don’t think it’s a good thing to leave the castle for too long. Sansa is alone with Brienne and Littlefinger and hopefully also Tormund. I don’t think the other Lords and Ladies are staying when Jon is away.

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    162. Geralt of Rivia: Almost whole season in the south? That doesn’t make sense since Jon as KitN being absentee for such a period. It’s like they gave him title just to hang around in the south. Important meetings but once they manage to broke a deal, he’ll go North. Sansa is hardly going to prepare them for white walkers or others. He could instruct Tormund and who knows how other Northern lords are seeing white walkers matter from their point of view.

      Robb was absent from the North for his entire reign. The king goes where their duty takes them, and if Dany and her dragons are key to victory, he’ll carry out whatever needs to be done in the south to further her cause. If he leaves instructions for Sansa and co. to put the North on war footing, there’s nothing that especially requires him to be there (as far as he knows) more than whatever might be happening in the south.

      Because I just can’t see Jon all of sudden fall in love. Not after Ygritte, being killed, losing family and what he saw. He seems to be putting else away and concentrate to protect his family and defeat white walkers. Dany basically resigned on love or looks at it this way.

      Love has a tendency to happen (as he found with Ygritte). And Dany’s final conversation with Tyrion is perhaps the most obvious foreshadowing of the potential for a J/D relationship to date.

      It might be for Jon eventually, when he finds out they’re related

      Aunt/nephew is not incestuous in Westeros, so there’s no reason to think Jon would find that weird. It would be within his cultural conception of marriage.

      Chilli:
      No Robb when he was king didn’t stay in Winterfell and in the meantime the castle got sacked. I don’t think it’s a good thing to leave the castle for too long.

      Robb was away fighting a war for the very survival of his kingdom. He can’t do that hunkered down in Winterfell. Obviously in that instance, some things went awry, but a king who is terrified to leave his fortress is no king at all.

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    163. Sean C.,

      Well said ..
      Its like people already have decided that this two falling in love is cliche and predictable and disney and add whatever you want. They are not even waiting to see how it happens….

      Geralt of Rivia,

      What is there in the north that he must do on his own…
      If he wants the help and alliance .,people and resources then he must also help and work for it..

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    164. Quaithe,

      If the Wall falls when Dany and Jon are together, that means he isn’t at Winterfell when it happens. Maybe the reason Jon looks worried in the photo and Dany frozen is because they learn the Wall fell. As far as i remember the leaker said the Wall falls at the finale which makes no sense for Jon to go to Dragonstone ,return to Winterfell and then go back South for what ? Jon’s first priority is the whitewalkers ,if he makes an alliance with Dany during the first half of the season he has no reason to go back South .Dany’s war is not their war ,he can’t just ask his men to risk their lifes for Southern affairs when he already told them about the Others.On the other hand Jon’s war is everybody’s war even Stannis knew that.The are fake or the leaker has really messed up the timeline of events and listed them randomly.

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    165. Clob: I always thought it was simply a little hint that Daenerys knew Valyrian.It was during those scenes when she was pretending not to know it.

      Valyrian is gender neutral so I guess “Valar morghulis” translates “Everyone must die” rather that “All men must die”, but Missandei used the form “All MEN must die” and Dany replied “We are not MEN”. Of cause, that doesn’t mean much, because women must die too (for the sake of equal rights).

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    166. dragonbringer,

      Prepare for winter (food ) . Prepare defences not only his castle but all castles in the North ,shelter the poor ,prepare strategies and escape plans for the women and children in case the worst happens. Yes he can leave others to do all that but if he does he is a shitty King like everybody else. No that’s not Jon .Also earn what ? help to save millions? The Dany i know she will help no matter what and earn their loyalty (just like she did with the slaves).Even Stannis knew that you have to save the realm to win the Throne. I don’t think the stark army will have any part in Dany’s conquest.

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    167. Konna:
      Thi Targaryen,

      Jorah is very much in love with her and devoted to her
      Jon barely knows her. They have more important things to talk about.Jeor’s death,Mormont family and of course his excile from the North.I really hope Jon’s romance with Dany ( if there is any ) progress slowly and develop properly(Jon/Ygritte , Dany/Drogo) .

      I’ve seen it being mentioned from other fans. Will or won’t it be rushed? If they’re going this way. They would have to have a lot of scenes, really bond. They should have something more than just plain romance. Support each other, be family eventually. Sort of respect and admire each other. Both are certainly capable of that and quite frankly would benefit more from it. But just my opinion.

      Cathy,

      Robb was at war and marched on KL, also named KitN during his war campaign. A bit different situation to Jon, who’s enemy is marching on them from the North. Jon probably counts on the Wall being their defence, but they said Jon and Sansa will have a conflict so unless they’re bullshitting, which they could do, he has to be there for some episodes. Then it defeats the purpose.

      Of course he’ll need to go do what he can to convince Dany but don’t think it should take like 5 episodes. That’s a lot of time and quite frankly waisting his character just sitting, debating. KitN and most of the time not even in the North just sounds weird. Besides, it doesn’t look like Jon will be at dragonpit, which is later in the season. But still weird that Davos is there and he’s his Hand of the King basically.

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    168. Konna:
      dragonbringer,

      Prepare for winter (food ) . Prepare defences not only his castle but all castles in the North ,shelter the poor ,prepare strategies and escape plans for the women and children in case the worst happens. Yes he can leave others to do all that but if he does he is a shitty King like everybody else. No that’s not Jon .Also earn what ? help to save millions? The Dany i know she will help no matter what and earn their loyalty (just like she did with the slaves).Even Stannis knew that you have to save the realm to win the Throne. I don’t think the stark army will have any part in Dany’s conquest.

      True. Some people( not all here) just want him to hang around Dany, Tyrion and forget being a King. He has his generals and other people. Tormund is not exactly strategist, Sansa will be probably preoccupied with LF and plotting, Lord Glover and rst might not even believe that much. Dany will help them like she always does, once she knows he’s not lying or what kind of man he is. Stannis helped them and good point.

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    169. Geralt of Rivia,

      “Wish some paparazzi was able to capture who it was.”

      IMO Jon, Dany, and Missandei may be approaching something that will be inserted in post-production: maybe there will be something in the sea, if they are walking down the beach. It’s just that their formation looks official and Jon is clearly in the same commanding mode we saw in the end of Ep 609.

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    170. dragonbringer,

      Konna pretty much described it.

      Sean C.,

      Leave Sansa with LF is not wisest and he knows or at least has an idea. I know that Sansa is the one who should be taking down LF. Ironborn sacked Winterfell which is not a good sign, so if someone attacks as white walkers and Jon is not there. What kind of message does it send but then Jon/Sansa relationship is somehow important or key for future. Then question is how? is she gonna push him towards being a Targ, as Sophie said herself he was never a Stark afer readinf the scripts?

      How is Tyrion convo with Dany any indication for Jon and Dany? It’s sounds more likey Tyrion was making puppy eyes and it was a bit vague if we wanna call it foreshadowing. I agree with Dany dumping Daario and Jon being named KitN in the same episode.

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    171. BunBunStark: There’s a big green screen up on the battlements, so maybe they’re looking up at a dragon? That would explain why there are no other actors on the beach besides Kit, Emilia, and Nathalie. Maybe the ladies give Jon an up close and personal look at one of his “cousins”.

      I’m pretty sure that green screen just for them to add in the background.

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    172. Apollo,

      Theon is ariving. A acene of them leaked.
      Jon, Dany and Missandei approach the shore.
      Theon is disembarking the boat, tries to walk past Jon and Jon grabs him by the collar very angrily and then Daenerys approaches very slowly from the back and he lets Theon go.

      Gotta love Dany’s firm hand on Jon. I also loved how she let Jon be the first one to walk up to Theon when he gets off the boat. She knows they had unfinished business. I bet she loves his strong family values.

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    173. Kay,

      IMO, Jon will be arriving to Dragonstone in Ep 4; Ep 3 is the only one left for Dany’s battle with Euron and Cersei. Moreover, if the high stake scene involving almost all of the Northern cast is indeed in Ep 4, that would imply Jon being in the North early in the episode, and arriving to Dragonstone late in the episode. Of cause the hints to placement of that “high stake scene” were contradicting, but though it looks more like an Ep 1, Ep 4 cannot be ruled out.

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    174. Konna,

      How does that work exactly .. Southern affairs ,dany’s war , north and their was is the only that matter..these are the things exactly why I hate this north things…

      If the north wants the help of dany and south then they must help see that the south united and under dany and cersei removed just like what happened with Ramsey and Boltons.

      If dany is duty bound to help and save the people who don’t respect her nor her claim..

      Then what does it tell of the people who expect favors from those whose claim they don’t recognize nor help nor respect..

      All of the things you mentioned can be done in a couple of episodes and does not require his actual presence …his orders are enough just like the books

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    175. Geralt of Rivia,

      Jon will spend something like 3-3.5 episodes in the North (2.5, if Ep 3 skips his story-line); and then he will spend about the same amount on Dragonstone and in the finale he will be in the Dragonpit or nearby, because for some reason his role will become pivotal in overthrowing Cersei. Just look who is smuggling Tyrion into KL: it’s Davos or Team-Jon in other words. And the leaked scenes and photos tell pretty much the same story: Jon is front and center, Jon is in command. How could he treat Tyrion that way, if he was not? So, whether you like it or not, the last dragon has awakened and is stretching wings, and I feel like we might see him fly high over KL in the finale.
      But of cause it will come at the cost of problems in the North and if Jon was there, we wouldn’t have an excuse for those problems to happen.

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    176. Geralt of Rivia:

      Cathy,

      Robb was at war and marched on KL, also named KitN during his war campaign. A bit different situation to Jon, who’s enemy is marching on them from the North. Jon probably counts on the Wall being their defence, but they said Jon and Sansa will have a conflict so unless they’re bullshitting, which they could do, he has to be there for some episodes. Then it defeats the purpose.

      Of course he’ll need to go do what he can to convince Dany but don’t think it should take like 5 episodes. That’s a lot of time and quite frankly waisting his character just sitting, debating. KitN and most of the time not even in the North just sounds weird. Besides, it doesn’t look like Jon will be at dragonpit, which is later in the season. But still weird that Davos is there and he’s his Hand of the King basically.

      I don’t think Jon would be “just sitting, debating”. He can send some men to the Wall, but that would only be a temporary protection. In season 5, he said everyone in Westeros would need to work together, and that even then it could not be enough. He knows the war against the White Walkers is the priority, and all the key elements to win are in the South.

      He needs dragons, so he needs to make an alliance with Daenerys. He needs to collect dragonglass in Dragonstone. He needs Valyrian steel (Gendry will probably be important for that). He will need food, so the Tyrells are essential too. Olenna already said she is not interested in survivor, she just wants revenge against the Lannisters. So taking King’s Landing would help with that, and also provide wildfire (another powerful weapon against wights). And apparently Jon really will help with that, since Davos is with Tyrion on that mission in King’s Landing.

      And Jon being in the South with Daenerys does not mean there won’t be conflict in the North. Sansa’s betrayal may happen while he isn’t there. She could try to convince the Lords that she is a better leader, who knows.

      The leaks said many main characters would be in the dragonpit scene, but only mentions a few names, like Davos and Brienne. We still don’t know if Jon will be there or not. If he really stays in the South, it would make a lot of sense.

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    177. Chilli,

      I’m guessing greyworm and some unsullied were sent with the ironborn to fulfill dany’s bargain and retake the iron islands.

      But guessing due to theon arriving on his own they lost that battle, maybe he doesn’t make it

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    178. Din,
      Sean C.,

      The idea that “romance” somehow cheapens the story comes from such a childish POV —or worse, a puritan one. Violence is of course “mature” but sex and romantic attraction? It’s icky and it cheapens this SERIOUS BUSINESS of a story. Come on. Please, either grow up or join the 21st Century.

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    179. I have to say that whilst I’m loving all these leaks and pics the thought of Jon spending so much time at Dragonstone concerns me.

      I know he can easily leave orders try and make preparations and that he needs to secure alliances with the south but at the same time his place is North, particularly with what’s coming- no matter how you look at it.

      It’s for this reason (amongst many) that I really hope they don’t introduce a Dany/Jon full on romance. It’s just too easy in all honestly and a little clichéd and hopefully he’s back in WF by ep7.

      At best, I’d be OK with perhaps a mutual attraction that is unrequited (like Braime) but Jon simply cannot leave his kingdom on the verge of annihilation to be wooing a “foreign whore”, which is how the Northern lords would see it (there can be no doubt of this after last season).

      So many here and elsewhere are obsessed with Jons romance with Dany/Arya/Sansa but that really is not the main focus- it’s the WWs, and their impending doom.

      And maybe people do still fall in love and get all warm and fuzzy and romantic when everything they know is about to be utterly destroyed, but I really don’t think Jon (or Dany for that matter), are those sorts of people- as effective rulers.

      Marriage pacts are needed to secure alliances-sure. But if there’s already a very easy and natural alliance in place between the two rulers (as these pictures show), and in spite of all the conflict within their inner ranks, then marriage just isn’t necessary.

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    180. Apollo,

      He will be there from ep3 to ep5.And don’t worry he will spend next season in the north.He is not leaving his Kingdom to take up with a foreign whore he is going to secure an alliance with somebody to save them all.The northern lords can go suck it if they see it that way.Dany is not a Volantene woman.She is a powerful Targaryen with a massive army and three dragons and the only chance the northern lords have to save their neck so they should just shut up.And all the things that people say Jon should be doing north like stock on food and train the five men he has they are never going to show on screen it’s not dramatic enough.

      Sansa and her siblings can take care of LF.It’s her coming of age story.About the romance we haven’t seen it yet so we don’t know how it develops.They might fall in love and even go through with it but that doesn’t mean they will be sipping cocktails on the beach on Dragonstone and forget about the apocalypse.They can do both.

      Also if they fall in love it’s because it’s essential to the plot not just because we can see Kit and Emilia bone on screen and fulfill HBO’s sex quota.Like I guarantee it will play a part in the last episode of the series.

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    181. Luka Nieto,

      Agree, if two characters have a romance it doesn’t take over the story or belittle it in any way, it just gives these characters a bit more hope and something more to fight to survive for and that is beautiful.
      A bit of romance would be refreshing, there was some of it in the earlier seasons but since then there has just been unrequited love between characters and Jamie and Cersei lol

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    182. I keep thinking about this and cant really understand ..

      Tyrion and davos goes to KL to meet Jamie because tyrion believes many innocents will die and so he goes to Jamie abandon cersei

      So much for being Known as the wisest man in westeros..

      Let’s forget the fact that tyrion feels more compassion towards the people and KL than dany .
      Is there any war that innocents doesnt die..
      I bet he will once again school dany about her father. .

      I just wish it doesnt happen this way .

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    183. Luka Nieto,

      I think that everyone approaches ASOIAF/GOT differently. To some, this story is mainly about the cataclysmic clash that is about to ensue between the dead and the living and they read into the human emotions less. I’m not one of these people, but to them, the idea that the lead character, who has so far spent the last few seasons preparing for this great war to end all wars, suddenly finds himself embroiled in what would be a quite contrived romance with someone he has just met, is perhaps a cliche or plot device that they would rather do without. I find myself somewhere in the middle. I can see that a romance could form naturally between the pair, but equally so, I can see how it might not. I am a big fan of both characters, but if I am honest, I would like to see them reach the zenith of their arcs independently, without becoming entwined just yet. I can fully see them marrying for political purposes, but I would like to see a romance between them take time, possibly only at the end of the whole piece.

      People have completely varying opinions and I find it a bit strange to call other people’s views childish and to grow up because they don’t think a romance fits with the way the story has so far been developing for these characters. Whichever way you look at it, Jon and Dany getting together would be a cliche (overly predictable or even overused plot device; as in, the lead female leader/protagonist and the lead male leader/protagonist falling in love is very predictable) – that is not to say that it wouldn’t be great. I think it could be wonderful, that doesn’t mean it’s not cliche. Calling people childish for thinking so isn’t very tolerant of other poeple’s views.

      I am really looking forward to seeing these characters meet. They have mirrored one another so well since the start of the show and I would love to see how they interact, but I’m not not on the edge of my seat, waiting for them to throw themselves into each others’ arms. I find it a bit strange (though no judgement) that many people on here are so keen to see this happen.

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    184. In the bo oks Sansa is learning how to run a castle in the Vale and i think that she will be also preparing winterfell for the winter since it did indeed arrive. She will also take care of Petyr. Sophie herself said by the end of season 7 we will know if she is a real stark or not. By the time jon returns, whenever that is , he will see that. In season 6 when edd asked jon where jon would go jon said “south where its warm.” During this scene jon just needed to get away from it all after all the fighting and his murder. Heres the thing: if jon is doing anything leisurely down in ds while his stark family is enduring winter in the dark and remember poor bran is parallized, that is pure character assasination so I wont even consider that as an option. I don’t even know for sure that arya is with sansa and bran but if she is and jon is enjoying the sun while getting to know dany, that makes me think of eddards line “the lone wolf dies and the pack survives.” I respect jon’s family loyalty too much to even go down that path. In the botb last season, Jon almost got his troops killed to save Rikkon. He basically turned his back on them and completely forgot his battle plans. Thats how loyal he is and that is who he is. I just think that even if he is attracted to his aunt that his character is too noble to even consider initiating a relationship. And how would show watchers feel, if what posters are saying will happen is true, that jon is having sex on a boat when wall falls while his stark family is wholed up at winterfell?

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    185. Luka Nieto,

      Actually, it is the problem of the 21st century: sex is depreciated, romantic attraction is out of fashion, all the world should be based on the rule “nothing personal just business” or “the climb is all there is”. People get unconformable when they are reminded about illusions like “love, or realm, or gods”.

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    186. Apollo,

      It’s for this reason (amongst many) that I really hope they don’t introduce a Dany/Jon full on romance. It’s just too easy in all honestly and a little clichéd and hopefully he’s back in WF by ep7.

      At best, I’d be OK with perhaps a mutual attraction that is unrequited (like Braime) but Jon simply cannot leave his kingdom on the verge of annihilation to be wooing a “foreign whore”, which is how the Northern lords would see it (there can be no doubt of this after last season).

      So many here and elsewhere are obsessed with Jons romance with Dany/Arya/Sansa but that really is not the main focus- it’s the WWs, and their impending doom.

      I agree! I really don’t want to see a Jon/Dany romance happening either but that’s purely because I’d rather see Jon with Sansa at the end. Then again, I may be ok with seeing some Jon/Dany romantic development provided that it is not endgame ’cause I do think at the end of the series, Dany and her 3 dragons will die. After all, in the HotU, Dany’s last vision was at the wall before reuniting with her husband. I think that would be pretty telling of Dany’s demise.

      I definitely do think there will be some unrequited attraction, especially if Dany is attracted to the KITN while Jon not so much (either that or he chooses to not act on it). If you go back to when Jon had a relationship with Ygritte, as much as he was in love with her, he chose The NW over her! I have no doubt that Jon again, would pick his family and The North over Dany anyday! It’s just like Maester Aemon said, “Love is the death of duty!”

      Asoiaf fan,

      During this scene jon just needed to get away from it all after all the fighting and his murder. Heres the thing: if jon is doing anything leisurely down in ds while his stark family is enduring winter in the dark and remember poor bran is parallized, that is pure character assasination so I wont even consider that as an option

      I also doubt Jon is holidaying in The Bahamas while he let’s what remains of his family and the entire North suffer at the hands of winter. He is south on a diplomatic mission to plead his case to the Southrons and gain some backup.

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    187. Name *,

      No I think it could be Jorah actually the person Dany is talking to before Jon approaches her is really close to her and moves slightly side to side like perhaps a hug.

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    188. Myname,

      One is definitely Davos. The other one looks like it could be Gendry, but why would he follow Jon? And who is Dany talking to?

      Mel,

      Jorah would make sense. Heh, to me, it looks like Dany is talking to Stannis. Were the Stannis death deniers onto something? 😉

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    189. I see Dany and I think Tyrion is there.She is talking to someone and then Jon comes and stands next to her and Davos and somebody else maybe Gendry walk past them.

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    190. Myname,

      Probably because they are only filming for a limited time at these beaches before they film elsewhere and we still haven’t gotten Dany arriving on boat and Dany group, Jon group leaving yet.

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    191. Dornish Rosé:
      Apollo,

      I agree! I really don’t want to see a Jon/Dany romance happening either but that’s purely because I’d rather see Jon with Sansa at the end.

      Ugh! Jon/Sansa fans are a plague on this fandom I say! A Plague!! The crackship! that is JonSa is never, ever going to happen. Please accept that.

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    192. for me Looks like Jorah…. maybe he is going home to help his House… also I see Davos – Gendry of course Dany – Jon and Tyrion.

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    193. Name *,

      I think I could make out Davos and Gendry. But I could not spot Jon, if others could see him, I’ll take their word for it.

      I could see Dany giving someone a quick hug, but it’s impossible to see who it was. Jorah would be the most likely guess yeah.

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    194. Myname:
      Why in every video/photo Jon appears some of you think he is leaving!?

      Because some folks want Jon to just sit around in the North with his whiny sister for the entire season rather than do something useful in Dragonstone – like try to get dragons, allies and more men. Some people want Jon to only be in the North for some reason.

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    195. Name *,

      Haha I’m sure Dany would adore Stannis, if Jorah has been traveling he has probably picked up even more bland clothes he’ll need Dany/Missandei to give him a new fashion.

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    196. Daenerys appears to be talking to at least one other person, and they are then approached by what looks like Jon and Davos. Beyond that, the footage is too blurry to tell what is happening.

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    197. Che,

      Agreed ?

      Maggie,

      Dornish Rosé,

      I wanna stress that I have no issue with love or romance on the show at all … I love the Sam/Gilly scenes for example but their relationship has builit up solidly over several seasons.

      But there’s been no real build up to this apparent romance on the show as far as I can see. Added to that there’s been no indication in the leaks here, or at L7R or from any other reputable source of a Jon and Dany romance.

      Also – I can hardly recall anyone discussing Jonerys here in the past (granted I usually scroll past the Jon/Dany hate threads so could easily have overlooked this). And BTW I like both characters.

      My point is it’s only been these past few days where everyone is now coming out the woodwork to order their Jonerys commemorative plate and cakendar or claiming to have always subscribed to this pairing. Really? Cos a few days ago this forum was overrun with Jansa predictions.

      If it serves the plot then fine (and I’ve no doubt that D&D will make it work of it’s required), but at this stage of the game and with all the pieces on the board I just don’t buy it.

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    198. Mel,

      Oh it wasn’t nothing against your comment. I just find interesting that since the filming in Dragonstone started, I’ve seen the same kind of comment LOL.

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    199. SerNoName,

      Dornish Rosé:
      Apollo,

      I agree! I really don’t want to see a Jon/Dany romance happening either but that’s purely because I’d rather see Jon with Sansa at the end.

      Ugh! Jon/Sansa fans are a plague on this fandom I say! A Plague!! The crackship! that is JonSa is never, ever going to happen. Please accept that.

      I could just as easily call Jon/Dany fans A Plague and claim it’ll never happen, but I wont ’cause the chances of them happening is just as likely as Jon/Sansa!

      We’ll just have to wait and see in 2018 🙂

      Oh yeah…. I’m still shipping JonSa! May my verbal shipping spread globally like the plague! smh

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    200. Dany is talking to someone Jorah or perhaps it could Theon, and it seems like Jon and Davos and someone else, just waltzes past them.

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    201. Myname,

      I imagine it’s probably due to those leaked spoilers on reddit about how Dany and Jon are basically together all season and people are taking them too seriously and it goes all out of context because they believe that means Jon is not being a good ruler. The problem is no one will know if those leaked spoilers are true at all, 50% true or all made up so I imagine people are gonna have meltdowns until the show airs unfortunately

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    202. about the scenes at the Dragonpit didn’t sue say there would be more than one? Also I think we can assume that team jon/dany at least takes half of KL. By the way I am glad Jon is not staying in the north waiting for LF to f*** him over.

      Gotta point out that this alliance, and the cersei/euron one too, was called by pretty much everyone after the season finale aired.

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    203. SerNoName,

      Their existence truly is disturbing me. It’s pure crack pair and yet those shippers act like it’s canon and definitely an end game.
      I’m done with all of those crazy shippers. Can’t handle them anymore.
      That’s why I prefer got without romance but I know that’s kinda impossible. Especially when we got this Jon/Dany thing spoilers, like it triggered people to start another useless discussion, because many of Jon/anywomen shippers aint cool with that thus they act childishly and start pairing wars.
      Poor Jon 🙁

      Kargaryen,
      Weird, I barely can see anything.

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    204. Apollo,

      Jon and dany as always been out there for many years even before show started..
      People were afraid to bring that topic because the amount of vitriol it brought from certain fans who just can’t stomach the idea of him being with dany..

      This past year or so sansa and arya have been shipped with him more
      Arya because of that letter and books foreshadowings .
      Sansa because of show ..

      And now you see jon and dany more because after years of waiting they are both meeting and getting into an alliance and possibly more like many predicted..

      I mean jon is not leading the WW to save the people of westeros from evil dragon queen

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    205. Myname,

      I really hate that those leaks came out.Now people with whine about it until next season .Judge the season without watching it first only because things they want to happen don’t happen scream character assassination without having a clue about context motivations and dialogue.It’s going to be annoying lol.

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    206. Apollo: I wanna stress that I have no issue with love or romance on the show at all … I love the Sam/Gilly scenes for example but their relationship has builit up solidly over several seasons.

      But there’s been no real build up to this apparent romance on the show as far as I can see. Added to that there’s been no indication in the leaks here, or at L7R or from any other reputable source of a Jon and Dany romance.

      Also – I can hardly recall anyone discussing Jonerys here in the past (granted I usually scroll past the Jon/Dany hate threads so could easily have overlooked this). And BTW I like both characters.

      My point is it’s only been these past few days where everyone is now coming out the woodwork to order their Jonerys commemorative plate and cakendar or claiming to have always subscribed to this pairing. Really? Cos a few days ago this forum was overrun with Jansa predictions.

      If it serves the plot then fine (and I’ve no doubt that D&D will make it work of it’s required), but at this stage of the game and with all the pieces on the board I just don’t buy it.

      I think it would be quite easy to create a good romance between Dany and Jon. Their whole arc separately up until now has been parallel and very similar, that immediately creates a big connection without them ever laying eyes on each other.

      With all of these parallels and connections between them it is easy to see how they would quickly understand each other and find some common ground, this wouldn’t just be a development of a few episodes, the show or the story has been preparing us and they have been laying out the tracks for his union for years now.

      Maester Aemon has said that love is death of duty, but we have also seen the other side of that equation. Love also gives you hope and something real to fight for.

      But people might be getting a bit ahead of themselves, we have now seen a lot of pictures of Dany and Jon and people start to worry about a romance. In truth most of what we have been seeing is Kit and Emilia, with a few seconds of actual footage between them.

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    207. Jenny:
      Myname,

      I really hate that those leaks came out.Now people with whine about it until next season .Judge the season without watching it first only because things they want to happen don’t happen scream character assassination without having a clue about context motivations and dialogue.It’s going to be annoying lol.

      I feel you, buddy.

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    208. Apollo,

      I’ve been part of the fandom for a good while now and the potential romantic relationship between Dany and Jon has always been discussed. All the parallels and foreshadowing we see in the books and the show were a petty big clue that these two characters were going to mean a great deal to each other. If you’ve been paying any attention you should have seen this paring coming a mile away.

      A lot of people who saw it ignores it because they thought it was too predictable or too cliche, nonetheless GRRM was not going to incorporate all these clues into his story and not follow through in the end. That were a lot of the Jon will lead the WW against Dany meme came from, a way to explain their connection but deny the probable positive connection between the two.

      Jonerys fans have been around for a long, long time.

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    209. Apollo,

      I wanna stress that I have no issue with love or romance on the show at all … I love the Sam/Gilly scenes for example but their relationship has builit up solidly over several seasons.

      Their relationship is one of the best developed ones in the series! They have been together since S2 which gave them two so much time to get to know each other and eventually love each other.

      I do hope I don’t appear to be some sort of Jon/Dany hater ’cause I’m really not. If there was to be some sort of relationship between the two I hope they take their time with it much like Sam/Gilly. Unfortunately there isn’t much time left cause of the WW threat. I just also hope it doesn’t fall into the ‘new and spontaneous’ trap like Robb/Talisa. Then again, that is also how I feel about Jon/Sansa.

      IDK, I’ve read the recent ‘plot leaks’ and one of them pretty much said that Jon/Dany do the do in the boat. As much as I want to “not buy it,” I can’t say for certain that it may be something that will happen. Do you buy it?

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    210. moiaf,

      Yes and what was the thread that used to discuss this at westeros.org..
      ..I forget the title but I remember you started one of those..something like ” the possibility of jon and dany in the coming books ”

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    211. Jenny,

      I watched it again, yeah I see him now. Dany goes up to Jorah, gives him a quick hug and says something to him (I could not see Tyrion) . Then Jon comes up immediately followed by Davos and Gendry. Jon stops to talk to Dany, but the other two just walk past without even glancing at them lol.

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    212. dragonbringer,

      Yeah like people haven’t talked about it because the time hadn’t come yet but it has always been a known theory.I thought they would form some kind of relationship since I first read the books.Of course now that we have the pictures people will talk about it more.It’s the focus of the articles.I don’t have a problem not liking the couple and preferring them to be platonic.Honestly I have waited for them to meet for so long I would like any kind of relationship between them.My problem is with people who think that a romance between the two is so cliche,disney it would cheapen the story kill the show and be character assassination without watching it play out first.Oh and fave argument is there is no time.Like are we watching the same show?When has romance taken a long time?Actually they are giving it proper time considering they are meeting way earlier than I thought.

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    213. SerNoName,

      I am so happy that Jon won’t be sitting around Winterfell this season. That idea never made a lick of sense to me. The North is depleted, there is no way that they can face Winter without the forces of the South. What did people expect Jon to do, sit around sending out ravens about white walkers while playing little games with Littlefinger and Sansa? That would have been completely out of character.

      Jon is a do something type of character. He takes actions into his own hands. He was never going to be dormant in Winterfell and no current game changers have any reason to look to the North at this point. The North was always going to have to go south.

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    214. Dornish Rosé:
      SerNoName,

      I could just as easily call Jon/Dany fans A Plague and claim it’ll never happen, but I wont ’cause the chances of them happening is just as likely as Jon/Sansa!

      Jon/Dany has never been a crackship. Jon/Sansa has always been a crackship. They are not the same.

      Jon/Sansa fans only managed to convince themselves their ship wasn’t a crackship because they thought there was only one possible explanation as to why Sansa went to the Wall in Season 6, and that that explanation was so that she could become Jon’s love interest. They were wrong on both counts, not surprisingly.

      Sansa already has a canon ship with far more symbolism, subtext and foreshadowing than pretty much any other canon ship in the books, and it ain’t Jonsa. SanSan is a thing. GRRM has said so. Deal with it. You may not like it, but that’s what wish fulfillment crackships like Sansa/Willas are for. Just don’t convince yourself that your crackship is just as plausible as non-crackships. That way lies madness, although I admit it’s pretty funny to watch all the Jonsa fans become increasingly unhinged the more scenes are leaked of Jon and Dany filming together and their fantasies of torrid Winterfell romance crumble. They have no one to blame but themselves.

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    215. Kargaryen,

      So, Dany escorted bu the Dothraki is lowly approaching a man in an overcoat or cape who looks very much like Jorah, talks to him shortly and then gives him something what looks very much like a slap in the face (definitely not a quick hug to my eyes, because the man almost falls backwards). And then Jon comes escorted by Davos and the third person (indeed could be Gendry). Jon stops to talk with Dany (calm her down?), Davos and Gendry (?) walks further: looks like there are other people behind the lead whom Dany slaps (?) and IMO I can see a boat.
      So, maybe the man who looks like Jorah is in fact Theon? They have similar haircuts and the scene is just a continuation of Theon’s tough welcoming scene? On the over hand, Theon wore no cape/overcoat when he disembarked in the scene with Jon. Or maybe the overcoat is just an illusion in a blurry picture?
      In general, Dany slapping Theon would make more sense than Dany slapping Jorah, but that would mean that Jon confrontation with Theon in the earlier scene was not because of his past misdoings, but because so something much more recent.

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    216. moiaf,

      I agree. What people call ‘cliché’ I call archetypes. And yes, GRRM has always intertwined archetypes with his narrative threads. And no, this does not point to fairytales endings (Greek tragedy anyone?).

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    217. Apollo,

      Dany was born on Dragonstone. She’s nobody’s foreign whore and the people of the North would be well learned to realize that. As well as the fact that their King doesn’t see her that way.

      Dany will undoubtedly play a huge role in saving the North from complete destruction. They should be happy that Jon sought her out.

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    218. Dornish Rosé,

      Dornish Rosé: I could just as easily call Jon/Dany fans A Plague and claim it’ll never happen, but I wont ’cause the chances of them happening is just as likely as Jon/Sansa!

      We’ll just have to wait and see in 2018

      Oh yeah…. I’m still shipping JonSa! May my verbal shipping spread globally like the plague! smh

      I am not a specific shipper of any romance, I am prepared to see what happens within the story. I think there are actually concrete reasons why Jon and Sansa, Jon and Dany and Jon and Arya are being shipped. If any of these pairings happens it wouldn’t be a surprise to me, there are clues and good reasons within the plot for people to ship these pairings.

      I was interested in the dynamics of a Sansa and Jon pairing, and therefore I made the unfortunate mistake of reading some Jon and Sansa fanfiction.
      And it really didn’t work for me, people often simply completely change or ignore the characteristics of the characters for this relationship. So after reading Jon and Sansa fanfiction I would not really want to see a pairing between the two.

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    219. Apollo,

      Its easy to call a noone like talisa a foreign whore

      I would like to see the lords from north run their mouth at dany ..
      God knows what happened when men run their bad mouth at dany .,we only have to look at
      Kraznys
      Leader of second sons
      Khals
      And yunkai and volantis masters

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    220. dragonbringer,

      We discussed in The Parallel Journey of Daenerys Targaryen… thread. There was an essay there discussing the parallels between Dany and Jon. Although there have been plenty of threads discussing that at w.org and other forums.

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    221. Jenny,

      Exactly ..if this meeting happens In season 8 I can understand the arguments about having no time..
      But we have 2 full seasons or at minimum 10 episodes to develop this ans not rush it.

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    222. Che:
      Luka Nieto,

      I think that everyone approaches ASOIAF/GOT differently. To some, this story is mainly about the cataclysmic clash that is about to ensue between the dead and the living and they read into the human emotions less. I’m not one of these people, but to them, the idea that the lead character, who has so far spent the last few seasons preparing for this great war to end all wars, suddenly finds himself embroiled in what would be a quite contrived romance with someone he has just met, is perhaps a cliche or plot device that they would rather do without. I find myself somewhere in the middle. I can see that a romance could form naturally between the pair, but equally so, I can see how it might not. I am a big fan of both characters, but if I am honest, I would like to see them reach the zenith of their arcs independently, without becoming entwined just yet. I can fully see them marrying for political purposes, but I would like to see a romance between them take time, possibly only at the end of the whole piece.

      People have completely varying opinions and I find it a bit strange to call other people’s views childish and to grow up because they don’t think a romance fits with the way the story has so far been developing for these characters. Whichever way you look at it, Jon and Dany getting together would be a cliche (overly predictable or even overused plot device; as in, the lead female leader/protagonist and the lead male leader/protagonist falling in love is very predictable) – that is not to say that it wouldn’t be great. I think it could be wonderful, that doesn’t mean it’s not cliche. Calling people childish for thinking so isn’t very tolerant of other poeple’s views.

      I am really looking forward to seeing these characters meet. They have mirrored one another so well since the start of the show and I would love to see how they interact, but I’m not not on the edge of my seat, waiting for them to throw themselves into each others’ arms. I find it a bit strange (though no judgement) that many people on here are so keen to see this happen.

      My thoughts are very similar. I can’t figure out how to quote every person individually here yet, but this post right here elaborates my thoughts nicely.

      If a romance were to happen between Dany and Jon it would not simply be a one night stand that ends up in convenient marriage.

      The story has always gone against cliches. Leaping into someone’s arms is not something in line with Jon’s character whatsoever, and Dany has not shown any emotional attachment to any of her post Drogon lovers. She even said she felt nothing when she broke up with Daario who she knew loved her.

      I think it would be horrible for the story if Jon fell for Dany and she decided to make him her lover. It would take time for Dany to form an emotional bond with Jon, something that I just don’t see slowly unfolding on the show as there is only a dozen of episodes left, plus it would be as cliche as can be.

      What I can see however is political marriage, but even that I think might end up only being an idea not actually happening. A political marriage would have to be a grand and well advertised affair, to reap the full benefits from it. There is no way any of the writers wants to devote a whole episode, let alone the grand finale to that. Not to mention that both Dany and Jon are very likely to have to die/sacrifice themselves by the end of it all, a happy ending with both of them riding off into the sunset is just not realistic in any way.

      And to all the people that say that this show is “mature” and deals with a lot of sex and condones incest… it is also about deep and meaningful love. Look at Dany and Drogon and how well written their incredibly unconventional love story was. She was basically sold to him as a slave, but after much time they formed a deep connection and love for each other. On the other hand look at the one person that fucks out of pure sexual drive and lust, Cersei. And guess what, that is where the incest is happening.

      People that want Jon/Dany and Jon/Arya romances are not really listening to the undertones of this great story, in my opinion.

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    223. Dornish Rosé,

      After last season when the young tumblr crowd was reading into the Jon and Sansa interaction, I formed a real curiosity about them, because outside of places like tumblr, no one thought this way. So I started reading Meta’s and things like that and I concluded that shipping them is madness.

      Jon/Sansa shippers completely change the characterization (both book and show) of these two characters to make them work. It’s like fitting a square peg into a round hole. What they also do is completely diminish the character traits of other female characters like Dany and Arya and Ygritte and transfer them to Sansa to somehow make her “fit” into what type of woman Jon shows attraction to, while demonizing the women with those character traits at the same time.

      It was very bizarre. Every since then, I have seen that ship as madness.

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    224. M,

      Jon/Dany has never been a crackship. Jon/Sansa has always been a crackship. They are not the same.

      Jon/Sansa fans only managed to convince themselves their ship wasn’t a crackship because they thought there was only one possible explanation as to why Sansa went to the Wall in Season 6, and that that explanation was so that she could become Jon’s love interest. They were wrong on both counts, not surprisingly.

      Sansa already has a canon ship with far more symbolism, subtext and foreshadowing than pretty much any other canon ship in the books, and it ain’t Jonsa. SanSan is a thing. GRRM has said so. Deal with it. You may not like it, but that’s what wish fulfillment crackships like Sansa/Willas are for. Just don’t convince yourself that your crackship is just as plausible as non-crackships. That way lies madness, although I admit it’s pretty funny to watch all the Jonsa fans become increasingly unhinged the more scenes are leaked of Jon and Dany filming together and their fantasies of torrid Winterfell romance crumble. They have no one to blame but themselves.

      Your hilarious!

      As much as I love Jon/Sansa and the idea of what may or may not happen, I’m actually one of those few fans who NEVER thought of Sansa retreating to Castle Black to become Jon’s love interest. She went there for a safe haven from her bastard husband of hers and the only person she could rely on and trust is Jon.

      I would LOVE to see more SanSan and what the possibilities can potentially be! May it also be romantic or not. Yes! I love the idea of JonSa but I’m not gonna crack and go unhinged if nothing happens between those cousins XD

      Sorry to disappoint all those people who hate on JonSa shippers or any other shippers but I’m one of the few who wont go crazy if I don’t get to see what I hope for 🙂

      And I actually enjoy seeing all those leaked images! I’m just impatient and looking forward to the end of the story ^.^

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    225. Amira,

      Greek Tragedy? Greek Tragedy always ends with catharsis, for example Oedipus.
      Oedipus killed his father without knowing and married his mother without knowing.
      They had children, he loved her.. when the truth was revealed the situation became tragic for everyone. Oedipus took his eyes off to stop seeing what he have done in his life, his wife/mother killed herself and their children had their own tragedies.
      Antigone, Oedipus sister/daughter. Antigone was right, what Kreon did against her and her brothers (who died on a civil war) was against the gods but even though she was the hero in the end she was burried alive with her fiance Aemon!!. Haemon was Kreon’s son. They both payed for what they did.
      That’s why greek tragedies are universal and timeless, the hero does wrong, the hero suffers and the hero pays for they faults.
      I don’t see how you can compare this to Jon/Dany sex happily ever after.
      Red Wedding was a greek tragedy, Shireen’s burning was a greek tragedy (Agamemnon did the same so the Greek army set out for Troy)…
      Brandon’s and Rickon’s Stark burning was a greek tragedy
      GoT became what it is because Ned died in the first season, when people thought he was the hero. It is what it is after Red Wedding. It’s not people’s fault that they had high expectations and now all the fandom talk is reduced to whether Jon should bang his aunt or his cousins, and how beautiful their clothes are.
      I am not losing hope. I still wish we will see the tragedy that was promised.

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    226. Din,

      Dany and Drogo fell in love in literally two episodes.I don’t remember a great courtship between them lol.The fact that Dany didn’t love Daario doesn’t mean she will never love again.We don’t know how her and Jon’s relationship will develop.The writers will make it fit the story.But they are young and will share an incredible burden together.It’s not that hard to imagine they will fall in love.Regarding Cersei and incest GrrM made the most successful marriage in his story that of Jahaerys and Alysanne incest so for him the knife cuts both ways.

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    227. Boudica,

      I am not a specific shipper of any romance, I am prepared to see what happens within the story. I think there are actually concrete reasons why Jon and Sansa, Jon and Dany and Jon and Arya are being shipped. If any of these pairings happens it wouldn’t be a surprise to me, there are clues and good reasons within the plot for people to ship these pairings.

      I was interested in the dynamics of a Sansa and Jon pairing, and therefore I made the unfortunate mistake of reading some Jon and Sansa fanfiction.
      And it really didn’t work for me, people often simply completely change or ignore the characteristics of the characters for this relationship. So after reading Jon and Sansa fanfiction I would not really want to see a pairing between the two.

      Yeah, I think there are plenty of reasons those pairings are being shipped. It’s just I had a preferable preference in JonSa. I’d never thought I’d come under fire because of it lol

      I dont read alot of fan fiction, I just like to speculate on the possibilities.

      purpleofhair,

      After last season when people the young tumblr crowd was reading into the Jon and Sansa interaction, I formed a real curiosity about them, because outside of places like tumblr, no one thought this way. So I started reading Meta’s and things like that and I concluded that shipping them is madness.

      Jon/Sansa shippers completely change the characterization (both book and show) of these two characters to make them work. It’s like fitting a square peg into a round hole. What they also do is completely diminish the character traits of other female characters like Dany and Arya and Ygritte and transfer them to Sansa to somehow make her “fit” into what type of woman Jon shows attraction to, while demonizing the women with those character traits at the same time.

      It was very bizarre. Every since then, I have seen that ship as madness.

      Fair enough. There are some crazy shippers out there who would say all sorts of things to justify these relationships, however, I’m not one of those. Rather, I look forward to the rest of the story regardless which ever ship comes to fruition or not 🙂

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    228. Jenny,

      Save their neck from ice zombies and then more zombies and more and more until they are at Dany’s doorstep
      what’s the point of taking the throne if half the population is dead.She is the Queen it’s her duty to protect them(if not the lords the smallfolk who are completle innocent).Dany is powerfull ,she has dragons,a huge army she will understand that they have to stay in the North to protect their borders until she is ready to join them.If her and Jon make an alliance there is no need for him to follow her in King’s Landing . I unite the South, you will guard the Realm until am ready .Makes sense .Also Yara didn’t bend the knee and asked help to become Queen.Jon is already a King and needs help to protect humanity . People need to see that the King is beside them. As i said Dany is not a Queen that lets millions of innocent people her pride was wounded, she is not Cersei.

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    229. I am not a Jon/Danny shipper but I think it would be odd if two people who are young, and very attractive and have a kindred outlook do not find each other appealing. Jon is humble while Dany can be tyrannical but for both of them saving and taking care of other people is such a part of who they are. If they fall in love within the greater story, I can’t see it doing anything other than making it better. I guess some fans are thinking the romance will become the story? I really don’t think so.

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    230. To be honest, at the rate of accuracy we’re seeing the leaks exposed, i’m fully expecting Jon/Dany to end up having sex with each other. I will be pleasantly surprised if they do not. I would much prefer if they would form a special bond with each other in a familial way rather a romantic one. I think that’s much less predictable and much more satisfying.

      And if they really MUST fall in love, have it happen at the end of season 8 before they both die – that would be far more tragic and bittersweet than a steamy bonking session between them while the wall falls down, don’t you think? A good romantic story doesn’t necessarily have to include sex, though I understand HBO has a sex quota that they need to fulfil.

      I just wish there would be more focus on the north and the Stark kids, dammit! They’ve all suffered enough and it would be nice to see them reunited and spending a few episodes catching up with one another.

      I want more Arya! She was such an important and interesting character in the book, I hope D&D have more in store for her than just being LF’s executioner.

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    231. It’s possible the conflicted romantic feelings of Jon-Arya from GRRM’s original book outline might be transferred over to Jon-Dany instead in the show, which makes for effective drama. If the original love triangle setup remains intact, the third person involved could still be Tyrion – or Jorah.

      I kind of want to see a Jaime-Brienne-Tormund love triangle, myself. And I wouldn’t mind if Tyrion and Sansa end up together after all. 🙂

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    232. Flora Linden:
      It’s possible the conflicted romantic feelings of Jon-Arya from GRRM’s original book outline might be transferred over to Jon-Dany instead in the show, which makes for effective drama. If the original love triangle setup remains intact, the third person involved could still be Tyrion – or Jorah.

      I kind of want to see a Jaime-Brienne-Tormund love triangle, myself. And I wouldn’t mind if Tyrion and Sansa end up together after all. ?

      You have a point there – it does appear that the Jon/Arya/Tyrion love triangle has been replaced by Jon/Dany/Jorah. I do think that Tyrion and Sansa will be married in the end, with Sansa on the iron throne.

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    233. Purpledragon,

      That’s what bothers me.The possibility that the romance will become the main story and overshadow the other storylines. Got has many protagonists not just two. Also i really don’t have an issue with Dany/Jon but the leak about having sex while the Wall falls its awfull.The fall of the Wall is propably the most important thing in the story and it should be connected with Bran and the NW.Not D/J romantic scene .I don’t dislike the scene ,just the timing.

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    234. Dornish Rosé,

      I personally think Jon and Sansa is impossible because of the state of their current relationship. Jon falling in love with one of his sister would be extremely disturbing for most viewers, and I’m sure the show runners know that. And they clearly build a sibling relationship in season 6. Their first hug was almost identical to Jon and Arya’s from season 1. Sansa gave to her brother a cloak similar to the one their father had. They talked about “father” and about “our brother”, and she also said he is a legit brother (a true Stark) to her now. And, of course, they have parallels with Robb and Catelyn (the King in the North scene is a good example).

      There is also everything Sansa just went through with Ramsay. After being sexually abused and tortured for months, developing a new relationship would be hard. The idea that her own “brother” would start loving/desiring her is extra disturbing.

      Jon is described as an honorable man, so it would be hard to realistic make him fall in love with one of his “sisters”, even in normal circumstances. And then the show runners add all these extra events that make the situation even more creepy. It would ruin Jon’s character, at this point. I really don’t see the show runners doing that.

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    235. I don’t think it’s about Jon/Dany becoming the story so much as an unwillingness to reach the “acceptance” stage after spending five books, six seasons, and X number of years living in willful denial about what all of those parallels and foreshadowing were leading to. “But George would NEVER…!” and all that. People need to go back and read GRRM’s original outline again. He so, so would.

      Myname,

      Well, at the very least it looks like people finally got that departure scene they’ve been attempting to read into every single set pic in the hopes of disproving this exact scenario. Classic case of “be careful what you wish for” I guess.

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    236. So.

      It reinforces what leak said Jorah at DS, leaving then with company North to catch a wight or something. It looks they’re heading for a boat. Davos and Gendry also fits what leaks said.

      Myname,

      On this pic. it seems either they’re leaving or Jorah just arrived. Judging by amount of people probably leaving. Davos and Gendry walked towards the boat and Jon stands beside Dany. Jorah is the guy beside Jon, Tyrion is there too. Thankfuly for Dan’s wig so we can see her. Jon has a Longclaw.

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    237. Myname,

      Naww, we never even saw Jorah arrive and his already leaving. I have no idea what they are talking about but it must of been hard for Dany to reunite with Jorah possibly him being cured and her relief and then let Jon take him for what i’m guessing he is gonna be a representative in the north for Dany.

      So I guess this is when Jon leaves, did those leaks say anything about Jorah being with Jon in the north?

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    238. Myname,

      Thanks for the link! Jon is not wearing his cloak. What could that mean? Maybe that first video with him and Daenerys alone, talking is him coming back to Dragonstone again? Maybe after some mission in the North?

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    239. Konna:
      Purpledragon,

      That’s what bothers me.The possibility that the romance will become the main story and overshadow the other storylines. Got has many protagonists not just two. Also i really don’t have an issue with Dany/Jon but the leak about having sex while the Wall falls its awfull.The fall of the Wall is propably the most important thing in the story and it should be connected with Bran and the NW.Not D/J romantic scene .I don’t dislike the scene ,just the timing.

      You couldn’t be more right – it’s the timing in which the act occurs that makes it cheesy as heck. I mean, honestly, can’t the writers think of better ways to introduce the sex? I feel as though D&D just want the series over and done with asap and are not giving enough time to flesh out the whole story satisfactorily.

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    240. Inga,

      I could be wrong but in almost every comment you post you are so invested in seeing the bad in everything related to Dany that while everyone sees a normal conversation between her and another character or even her hugging someone all you see is her slapping someone.

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    241. Konna,

      Look the fall of the wall has nothing to do with Jon and Dany having sex.It’s not a montage.There will be the sex scene and then afterwards the final scene will be the wall falling.It seems like a good climax to the story for me.And don’t worry about the story becoming a love story or focusing too much on the two of them.It’s not going to happen.It’s just a small part.

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    242. Kargaryen:
      Awesome photos from Daily Mail from today’s shooting

      http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3874804/Emilia-Clarke-Kit-Harington-film-poignant-goodbye-Game-Thrones-Daenerys-Targaryen-waves-Jon-Snow-beach-Iain-Glen-s-Ser-Jorah-makes-debut-set.html

      Holy crap, she’s wearing a red cloak! Embrace those Targ colors, Dany!

      ETA: And Jorah has a whole new outfit!! No more dirty yellow shirt for Ser Friendzone. I hope it’s got the Mormont bear sigil on it, but I can’t make out the details.

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    243. SerNoName: Ugh! Jon/Sansa fans are a plague on this fandom I say! A Plague!! The crackship! that isJonSa is never, ever going to happen. Please accept that.

      The only thing people must accept is : WE Know NOTHING!

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    244. Mel:
      Myname,

      So I guess this is when Jon leaves, did those leaks say anything about Jorah being with Jon in the north?

      It was.

      Jon goes with Davos, Gendry and Jorah to the Eastwatch by the Sea. Meeting Tormund who captured The Hound, Beric nd Thoros. They’re going capture a wight to prove it to the people. Filming starts in Iceland for 6 main character likely standing for Beyond the Wall.

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    245. So Jorah’s wearing black as well. It feels a bit weird to me that so many people are clad in black now after all those lovely earthy tones from the previous seasons.

      Also notice how Dany’s cloak has the same red tone as Mel’s. So they made her wear her house colours while also establishing a link to Rollo…

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    246. Konna,

      I don’t understand his departure, Jorah bowed elegantly and then Jon came, said something to her for quite a while and then suddenly turned around and almost ran towards the boat ..
      Why was he so eager to leave ? I hope they’re on good terms ..

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    247. Jay Targ,

      I don’t think that’s going to be explained as apparently Dany’s arrival to save the others will happen at the last moment and unexpected. The show just loves these last moment saves doesn’t it. There has to be one every season it looks like.

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    248. Irina Stark,

      I think it’s interesting how comfortable Jon seems to be when interacting with Dany. If he disagreed with something about her, he would still bow and things like that, like he did to Stannis. But he seems to be treating Dany as an equal.

      And he isn’t wearing his cloak. So that first leaked video of him and Dany could be him going back to Dragonstone, maybe?

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    249. Those new images are amazing!

      And it also looks like Jon and co are going on an expedition to retrieve a wight! Just like what the leaks say XD

      I find it hilarious and odd that it is suggested that Jon and Dany will get it on as the wall comes crumbling down! That’s similar to that scene when Yara and the ironborn came to the Dreadfort to rescue Theon while Myranda was getting it on with Ramsay 😮

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