The Greyjoy fleet lands on Basque shores & A tense reunion takes place (UPDATED!)

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In Zumaia’s Itzurun beach, yesterday was a productive first day’s work for the Game of Thrones production and curious onlookers alike. Today promises to be no different. Yet again, the Santa Klara country house graces us with video footage of the second day of production, and with it spoilers galore. Abandon hope all ye who enter here!

Before we get into today’s shoot, let’s return for a moment to yesterday’s scene, in which Tyrion, Missandei and Qhono welcome Jon and Davos to Dragonstone, and the King in the North and the Hand of the Queen share a formal handshake. We now have many new pictures of the first North-South encounter in a new gallery courtesy of ZIMBIO:

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Meanwhile, today Alfie Allen made his first appearance on set. We already knew Theon would probably be involved in at least one of these Zumaia scenes, considering he was spotted a few days ago in Bilbao, but now we know much more. In Santa Klara‘s video footage, we are witness to the single-take filming of a scene in which Jon, Davos, Missandei and a few Dothraki welcome the just arrived Theon and some ironborn in the shores of Dragonstone. “Welcome” may not be the most appropriate term, however:

As one might expect, Jon has some choice words for the man who betrayed Robb and took Winterfell by force. Jon grabs Theon by the lapels (literally and figuratively), and while we cannot hear what he is shouting at him, it’s probably nothing particularly nice. Fortunately for Theon, the King in the North contains himself. Instead of escalating the conflict, Jon goes off in a huff. The Greyjoy prince is lucky he was feeling magnanimous!

If you really want to feel Jon’s wrath, here is a closer view of the aggression brought to us by The Daily Mail, with photographs taken by PAP4U. The pictures show Alfie Allen, Kit Harington, Liam Cunningham, and showrunners David Benioff and D.B Weiss:

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Obviously, at this point in the seventh season Jon has already met Daenerys and is already in Dragonstone, which leaves us to wonder where Theon has been hiding. Is he just returning from the much teased naval battle against his mad uncle Euron, or is that yet to come for him and his sister Yara? Give us your thoughts in the comments!

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    1. It seems like naval battle happened and they lost to Euron. Theon made it alive. His reunion with Jon, you can tell if Jon wasn’t in diplomatic mission, he would punch him.

      I noticed Jon seems to be leaving Dragonstone on one of the pictures. Davos is standing there and Jon on the boat with his guards pushing the boat. Further reinforcing the idea he’s got to return to the North. Davos will stay behind and thus be at dragonpit.

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    2. Oooh don’t often see Jon very mad, it’s refreshing. I wonder how soon this is set after Jon arrives at Dragonstone, did he just get there or has he been there a while?

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    3. Geralt of Rivia: I noticed Jon seems to be leaving Dragonstone on one of the pictures. Davos is standing there and Jon on the boat with his guards pushing the boat. Further reinforcing the idea he’s got to return to the North. Davos will stay behind and thus be at dragonpit.

      That picture, as all the others, are from that single scene from yesterday. They are arriving, not leaving.

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    4. KiTN is NOT happy….lol

      cant wait to see Alfie during this.. that little determined look he will get when he gets brave enough to try and walk past Jon ..and Jon stalking off at the end..

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    5. It is nice to see the story taking a bit more shape now, and making a bit more sense.
      It seems like Jon will arrive on Dragonstone for diplomatic negotiations. In the meantime Dany will send her fleet to deal with Euron. Or her fleet will encounter Euron perhaps unexpectedly.
      Yara will be captured and Dany will properly suffer a bit of a loss, in the meantime Jon and Dany will properly get to know each other and start working together or thinking about some allience.
      After escaping from Euron, it seems like Theon will make haste to Dragonstone in order to make a report to Dany about the battle.
      Jon will learn likely learn that Theon is on his way and he will decide to confront him personally, he will properly not be happy to find out that Dany has allied herself with the Ironborn.

      It is interesting that Dany’s guards doesn’t try to intervene or stop Jon when he grabs Theon. It means that Dany’s side properly values the negotiations with Jon.

      I do wonder, perhaps a part of the mission for Davos, Gendry and Tyrion could also be linked to try and save Yara? Perhaps Euron takes Yara to King Landing or to Cersei. And Tyrion could go along to try and speak with Jaime.

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    6. I’m amazed by the amount of production pics and videos we get this season! Soon we’ll have enough material for a fan-made season 7 trailer 😀

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    7. Luka Nieto,

      Thanks for clarification. It seems Jon is going to be there for a while.

      Btw good work. I just saw pics and video – all of sudden you made a post. 😉

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    8. Geralt of Rivia: I noticed Jon seems to be leaving Dragonstone on one of the pictures. Davos is standing there and Jon on the boat with his guards pushing the boat.

      Jon is obviously not leaving at that moment, he is not wearing Longclaw. It seems more likely that some of Dany’s watchers/ guards spotted an Ironborn ship/ or Theon on his approach and reported it to Dany.
      And Jon decides that he will go down there and confront him personally. But Jon cant really do anything much to Theon because he is allied with Dany.

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    9. Boudica:

      I do wonder, perhaps a part of the mission for Davos, Gendry and Tyrion could also be linked to try and save Yara? Perhaps Euron takes Yara to King Landing or to Cersei. And Tyrion could go along to try and speak with Jaime.

      Nice idea. Also, Dany’s pact with Ironborn might be a problem for Jon and not just Theon but he has white walkers so it needs to be put aside. Ironborn are known for raiding especially Northern coast, their campaing in the North. Lord Glover told Jon, Sansa and Davos how they brutalized his wife and children.

      dragonreborn,

      Jon and Davos arrived together. Don’t think Jon was elsewhere during the meetings.

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    10. I love it!!!!!! Ok Pap4u got a damn awesome shot on that camera screen so I guess they can stay lol! (Just really want dirt on Arya lol!!). Sooo happy he gets to snatch Theon up I can’t wait to hear that conversation!!! I can’t wait for the new season this wait is gonna be so hard ? at least Theon didn’t curl up into the fetal position as soon as he saw him. He attempted to walk by in very close proximity to him so must be getting some confidence back. Maybe somewhere along the way Jon will get to punch Theon in the face. I can almost hear him say you are lucky we are here and I’m a guest or I would do you like I did Ramsay!!! Lol! I do like angry Jon though ?

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    11. Any Jon-Theon interactions are probably going to end up as some of my favorite S7 moments.

      Also, go Pap4U! At this rate, he might single-handedly spoil a majority of S7 for us.

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    12. Geralt of Rivia: Nice idea. Also, Dany’s pact with Ironborn might be a problem for Jon and not just Theon but he has white walkers so it needs to be put aside. Ironborn are known for raiding especially Northern coast, their campaing in the North. Lord Glover told Jon, Sansa and Davos how they brutalized his wife and children.

      Yes that is the problem with the Ironborn, it is not just a Theon thing. Likely most of Westeros wouldn’t be too happy with the Ironborn invading Westeros, even if it is in order to help Dany.
      Of course Dany has made them swore against any reaving, but the rest of Westeros will not be aware of that, and the Ironborn aren’t really known for being trustworthy.

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    13. The fact that gemma hasnt filmed in quite some time now makes me wonder if Euron will capture and kill her. Unfortunately 🙁

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    14. Theon may arrive right after jon arrived and preparing to go for the castle .
      Only reason I think it may be different episode or scene because we didnt see theon with tyrion missandei and jon and Davis going towards the castle.

      Geralt of Rivia,

      Wildlings are known for raiding the north as well..look at where they are now..

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    15. There is tension between Theon and Jon! But the Greyjoy saved Sansa.
      So the battle could happen in episode 7×02 maybe.
      I think Yara is a goner 🙁

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    16. I love the Jon that shows his fiery side! I’m also hoping Theon can man up and take it lol don’t crumble and revert to Reek.

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    17. Hello all. Longtime lurker, first time poster. It’s likely not only Dany’s alliance that saves Theon from a beating but his helping Sansa escape. His betrayal of Robb when Jon was stuck at the Wall has to be a particularly bitter pill to swallow. As for the Tade/ Pap4u pic, I love that Jon’s tunic is flared at the bottom. Even it looks angry at Theon. Ha!

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    18. dragonbringer,

      Jon’s got more personal reasons to hate them. They sacked Winterfell, killed Ser Rodrik, Maester Luwin, those two boys and plenty of others.

      avdar,

      Ignore? More likely avoids out of shame.

      Did Jon shag your wife or something? That you hate him so much but not surprising you worship Dany. That goes a lot of times from my experience hand in hand.

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    19. H.Stark:
      There is tension between Theon and Jon! But the Greyjoy saved Sansa.
      So the battle could happen in episode 7×02 maybe.

      We didn’t see Jon and Sansa’s catch-up session at Castle Black in full, but she did assure him in 602 that she would tell Jon what he had done to help her escape Ramsay. I think it will be that as much as any potential alliance he wants with Daenerys that prevents Jon from killing Theon. And the Theon that Jon meets will be very different from the one he last saw before he left Winterfell in 102.

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    20. Chreechree,

      The Sansa thing is the only reason Jon doesn’t kill Theon. Jon doesn’t give a damn if he’s allied with Dany, he’d have nuked the lad if he hadn’t helped Sansa escape.

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    21. Geralt of Rivia,

      Well you weren’t speaking particularly about jon or theon did you..yow were speaking about north hating irinborn ..
      So I responded with that..

      People have to remember that Robb tried to ally with Ironborn. And I have not seen anyone bringing up this raids and how they will be hated at that time..

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    22. As I said in yesterday’s thread, all of these grudges and past histories between pretty much all of the characters at DS (except for Missandei) are gonna make for some fantastic scenes next season! ?

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    23. So excited to see this scene. Part of me is really enjoying these pictures and the other part realizes when they move on from Spain the spoilers will probably dry up in a BIG WAY. That will make the wait for summer even worse for most of us.

      I think Jon got a lot off his chest in that scene with Theon and I’m sure he’s still angry, but he is no fool and because of the alliance with Dany he can’t pummel him as I’m sure he wants…lol. Theon did save Sansa so he redeemed himself to some extent and I believe THAT is why Jon will eventually forgive, but not forget, what Theon did to the Starks.

      In regards to Yara, I agree with you all. It appears that this would be after the battle with Euron and Theon managed to escape. I’m afraid that poor Yara is going to be a goner this season, but if that is the case, what will happen with the Ironborn? The crews that left with Yara and Theon weren’t following Theon, they were following Yara. Will they abandon Dany and turn tail if something happens to Yara? That’s my concern. I don’t think Dany is going to have an easy time of getting all the parties together to try and take Westeros. Now that would be an interesting turn of affairs. What do you think?

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    24. Apollo:
      As I said in yesterday’s thread, all of these grudges and past histories between pretty much all of the characters at DS (except for Missandei) are gonna make for some fantastic scenes next season!

      Absolutely agree – and we got a small taster of that sort of thing last season, when Brienne came across Davos and Melisandre at Castle Black. Even if Jon and Daenerys get along well, there will be a lot of tension between different members of their respective teams. It will be interesting to see who holds a grudge the longest.

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    25. avdar,

      lol, more like he’s slightly going on reek mode again. Trying to walk away to avoid confrotation. Reminds me of the times sansa confronted him in winterfell. I bet he just says sorry and starts cry and stuttering again. And Jon, much like yara, feels a bit disgusted and walks away.

      Also, the fact that the ironborn or the dothraki for that matter does absolutely nothing about it when jon grabs him, it’s pretty telling. Note that Tyrion didn’t even bother to go along to welcome him.

      Yara was the thing holding him together. Having just lost her to that psychopath might be just what it takes to make theon starts crumbling again, sadly.

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    26. Arya,

      Jon has every right to judge Theon as it’s his family that Theon betrayed. He hasn’t seen Theron’s regrets the way we have. It’s natural for him to be mad at him.

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    27. Love all of these spoilers, if anything it jut whets the appetite for the new series and for me at least will not diminish the excitement at all!

      Just one thing though, no sign Ghost in any of the pics? Is Ghost an entirely digital presence that can be added in later or a real dog that they size up??

      Could he have been left at home guarding Sansa???!

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    28. Theon has redeemed himself towards the audience, and he is very much a changed man. He did help Sansa, but that does not absolve him of his previous crimes. He still killed two children and other people like Ser Rodrick, and he still betrayed Robb.
      Even if Theon saved Sansa, I am pretty sure that if Jon had run into Theon in the North, he would have been executed. Melisandre was still punished even when she brought Jon back to life. It would be seen as a weakness if Jon let Theon live.

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    29. I wonder how the scene of

      Brienne and Davos meeting Dany in the Dragonpit

      does fit in here. At first I thought that Dany will arrive in King’s Landing early in the season to find that Cercei has burned the city to the ground and that is why she has to hold court that the Dragonpit ruins, but that does not seem likely anymore, because her home base is at Dragonstone, King’s Landing is still controlled by Cercei’s City Watch (remember the scene

      where Davos, Tyrion and Gendry have a confrontation with the city guards

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      and Davos won’t travel from Winterfell to KL with Brienne as a Stark envoy, then return to the North only to pick up Jon and sail to Dragonstone with him. Therefore, the Dragonpit scene has to be at the end of the season when Dany has already taken KL. But what is Brienne doing there? The Starks don’t need her as an envoy if Jon is going to Dany himself.

      It seems that Sansa will spend most of the season at Winterfell with LF without Jon or Davos being around. That will be an interesting situation. Will LF try to manipulate her to betray Jon and install herself as the Queen in the North? Will he broker an alliance with Cercei and follow through with his season 5 promise to hand Sansa over to Cercei?

      It’s also a bit strange that Cercei seems to tolerate an invading army and three big dragons on her doorstep for at least half the season without trying to do anything about it or trying to flee. I’m losing faith that we will see Casterly Rock (or Highgarden) this season or anytime in the future of the series.

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    30. Ed:
      Love all of these spoilers, if anything it jut whets the appetite for the new series and for me at least will not diminish the excitement at all!

      Just one thing though, no sign Ghost in any of the pics? Is Ghost an entirely digital presence that can be added in later or a real dog that theysize up??

      Could he have been left at home guarding Sansa???!

      I don’t think Jon would take Ghost along with him; I think he would feel it better to leave Ghost at Winterfell (just as he left him at Castle Black during the Hardhome trip). Also, CGI will be cheaper if he does that.

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    31. Cragen,

      its other way around How you gonna survive when Dany toys with your Jon just like Daario,Hizadr

      Still Theon is damn cocky he tried go way without saying anything and the way he ignored Jon Snow

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    32. evvie,

      Yup. Theon got a lot of innocent people killed. Jon can’t forget that, but he’ll restrain himself for Sansa, just as he did with Melisandre because her actions saved him. I’d like for Jon to explain how Ramsay killed Rickon in front of him and how if Theon had acted sooner (Reek had opportunities to kill him), Rickon would’ve lived and Sansa wouldn’t have been raped… Hmm. It’s best for Jon’s thoughts to not travel that path. Jon never liked Theon, so it’s not like brotherly affection holds any sway. I can see Jon sneering as he telks Theon that he and Sansa took care of Ramsay since Theon was incapable of it.

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    33. Chreechree,

      I loved it too! It looks like Theon was going to dismiss our King Jon, and walk right past him. I love the fact that Jon is laying into him. “The North Remembers”. Theon really doesn’t deserve absolution. His betrayal of Robb enabled The Boltons to control Winterfell and hence, marry Sansa to that psychopath. I’d love to see Jon land a punch in that once smug face!

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    34. TheKingWhoCares,

      We just have not gotten any scoop on that. I would not come to that conclusion just yet. Lots of filming still needs to be done. Unfortunately for us probably on a closed set in NI.

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    35. TheKingWhoCares,

      My theory (and it’s only a theory), is that Brienne may be despatched south to petition Jaime to lend their forces to combat the WWs, or for some other diplomatic reason. She’s the only one who would have a hope in hells chance of success where Jaime is concerned.

      Not sure exactly how this pans out, but perhaps this leads to her capture by Cersei and results in some conflict of loyalty for Jaime where he must choose between the two (and possibly ending with the Valonquar prophecy).

      I have a pretty tinfoily image of them repeating what happened with Aerys and Brandon/ Rickard Stark which also kinda mirrors the LSH / Brienne Jaime arc (sorry to mention that folks!) 😉

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    36. I would hate it if Yara was killed early in the season by Euron. Just hate it! 🙁

      Good to see some tension between people who would ally themselves with Daenerys. Just like the Wildings, the Ironborn have a bad reputation in Westeros. When we throw in all the Martells vs. Tyrion, Danerys vs. the Houses that supported Robert’s Rebellion, a lot of mind vs. heart conflict for everyone.

      evvie: The Sansa thing is the only reason Jon doesn’t kill Theon. Jon doesn’t give a damn if he’s allied with Dany, he’d have nuked the lad if he hadn’t helped Sansa escape.

      The ONLY reason? 😀 While Jon is in Dragonstone and allied with Danerys? You really think so? IMO, the ONLY reason WAS because the friend of my friend has got to become my friend!

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    37. Apollo:
      As I said in yesterday’s thread, all of these grudges and past histories between pretty much all of the characters at DS (except for Missandei) are gonna make for some fantastic scenes next season!

      I couldn’t agree more. Looking at all of these pics all I can think is drama!! But the story does go that humanity has to put aside differences, band together and fight to defeat the long night. It will be fun to watch how it all plays out for sure. I really can’t wait!! I see Davos having to work with Melissandre again whether he wants to or not too! All of these characters have suffered losses at the hands of another in the group so it has the potential to be incredibly explosive. I can’t wait to see who keeps their cool and who loses it lol!! Such good stuff!

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    38. jdtargstark:
      avdar,

      Also, the fact that the ironborn or the dothraki for that matter does absolutely nothing about it when jon grabs him, it’s pretty telling. Note that Tyrion didn’t even bother to go along to welcome him.

      I can see Jon telling Tyrion to not bother going to the beach as he needs to have words with his foster brother. As Jon storms out, Tyrion dryly tells Davos to go with him so Jon doesn’t maim Theon too badly.

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    39. I remember a passage from the books when Jon comes back from the wildings.He is wounded cause of ygritte and delirious and he asks for Robb and if he is coming and they tell him about Winterfell being burnt and Bran and Rickon and he just says Theon wouldn’t do that.I was crying like a baby it was so sad.He never liked Theon anyway but he couldn’t believe he would do something like that they grew up together and he knew Robb treated him like a brother.So really this interaction is the best Jon could do and I don’t blame him.

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    40. Cragen,

      lol, according to reddit leak before Dany toys with Jon

      Jon Snow looks at Dany with puppy eyes and tells his sappy story then he kneels and pledge loyalty to Dany so yeah lol

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    41. Speaking about Ironborn and their old ways ..

      After aegon conquered westeros the IB rarely have gone back to their old ways. .
      Only lord Dalton greyjoy during dance of dragons and lord Dagon greyjoy tried to bring back the old ways and they couldn’t stand the power of targs and stopped ..
      And finally Balon rebelled and he was put down by Robert and Ned..

      So in over 300 years only 3 times there was an attempt to go back to the old ways..so its not like the IB can’t stay out of their old ways

      What iam basically trying to say is times change ,leaders change and people change ..

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    42. avdar,

      No he doesn’t. He doesn’t kneel.
      Only in the 6th episode he will offer to give away his title if she helps him with WWs. By that thime their relationship will be on another level.

      Read leaks carefully.

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    43. dragonbringer,

      Theon is part of Ironborn conflicts with the North. Jon is Stark so naturally, it concerns him too. It’s all connected.

      Yes, Robb tried that but Cat told him to not to trust a Greyjoy. She was right. Robb was naive because of his trust they sacked Winterfell and other places Moat Cailin, Deepwoode Motte. Jon has to put his hate for them aside.

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    44. avdar:
      Cragen,

      lol, according to reddit leak before Dany toys with Jon

      Jon Snow looks at Dany with puppy eyes and tells his sappy story thenhe kneels and pledge loyalty to Dany so yeah lol

      Isn’t forbidden to diss a character (at least it was yesterday when someone dissed dany) and talk about those damn leaks around here?

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    45. So I guess we can assume from this that Yara was the one taken captive by Euron and not Thein (Thank GOD…I don’t think I could stand any more Theon torture scenes!)

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    46. ChellieW,

      Whenever I start feeling too sorry for Theon (happens a lot actually), I remind myself that he murdered 2 boys merely to impress his men, to save face. It was completely unnecessary. Still, I do hope for his further redemption because I do enjoy redemptive arcs. I think his trying to get past Jon was more about guilt and avoiding confrontation than about dismissing the KitN, but Jon NEEDED to make sure Theon heard exactly what Jon thinks of him.

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    47. I think Varys and Tyrion will see that Dany slowly turns into the Mad Queen but being will Jon in this season will change her. He will be the one to make her understand what is the true goal and by falling in love with him she will slowly change.

      As for Sansa.. Don’t really care. She might think through this season that she is the best ruler but that won’t matter in the end next season.

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    48. solomon585858:
      avdar,

      No he doesn’t. He doesn’t kneel.
      Only in the 6th episode he will offer to give away his title if she helps him with WWs. By that thime their relationship will be on another level.

      Read leaks carefully.

      Was that before or after Jon escaped the WW horde? The timeline is a bit off, I’m afraid.

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    49. Cragen,

      Iam not sure that Jon will band Dany or even love. That line Tyrion said to her.

      “How Daario is not the last man to love her.” It seems some foreshadowing maybe that it’s going to be Tyrion who will be the last to love. Maybe, Jon not gonna return feelings eventually. If she even has some for him. There’s gonna be some twist to it.

      That being said Drogo, Hizdar and Jon will be important to her character and journey. How she’s gonna evolve as a person.

      ghost of winterfell,

      True that. Also agree with your opinion about Jon and Theon. Jon, Arya, Bran or Sanasa got every reason to judge him. He grew up with them, they were his family. Yes, Ned killed or their army his brothers but because of war their father started. Ned is took care of him or Jon for that matter.

      solomon585858,

      I wouldn’t really believes in those leaks. It contradicts what we know.

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    50. Chreechree,

      Chreechree: I can see Jon telling Tyrion to not bother going to the beach as he needs to have words with his foster brother. As Jon storms out, Tyrion dryly tells Davos to go with him so Jon doesn’t maim Theon too badly.

      I so agree with you. That sounds like something the Tyrion we’ve come to know and love would say exactly….lol.

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    51. dragonreborn,

      Myname,

      I also noticed that Davos looks to be greeting Jon on this photo + there was another photo of Jon arriving on the boat with his men but WITHOUT DAVOS. Can it be that Davos will come to Dragonstone earlier than Jon, meet with Dany, and then send a raven to Jon asking to come him too? In fact, that indeed could be the case: long have we argued that getting obsidian would be a mission for Davos, rather than for the KITN.
      Or even better. If Jon learns about Dany’s arrival early in the season – as I wrote before, Ollena might use her old partnership with Litlefinger to establish alliance with the KITN and maybe even to start nuptial talks; so, if Jon learns about Dany early, he may send Davos directly to her landing spot: Davos is an experienced sailor and smuggler and Jon’s best talker, so he looks like a right candidate to secure dragons (and maybe pick some obsidian on the way back). And this might be of key importance. Dany will be encountering troubles both in the sea and on the shore based on filming spoilers about the battle and In Production Teased hints; hence, someone will have to save her fleet or at least her flagship. My first choice for that role was Davos. Then I thought about Theon, but now we see that Theon is arriving much later, when Jon already acting like a boss despite of the initial disarmament and a bit of dragon-girl-power demonstration on the battlements – looks like whatever is happening between him and Dany is happening quite rapidly. But back to the topic, why Davos looks like a perfect candidate to become Dany’s savior: if the In Production teaser map is any worth, Dany will be landing on the southern coast of the Cape Wrath, where she will fall into Cersei’s trap; moreover, the Narrow Sea will be blocked by Euron/Royal fleet and that means, that the only way out from the bottleneck will be the Shipbreaker Bay which Davos knows perfectly. And then he can lead them to Dragonstone which he also knows perfectly. Afterwards he can send a raven to Jon or even go to summon him personally (I know it’s a contradiction, but they may come on different boats: first, Davos – to check whether everything is OK and the previous agreement is still valid; and then – the KITN).
      Of cause my guesses may be wrong, and I still need more information to adjust them, however, I just feel like Davos’ knowledge of the Shipbreaker Bay & Dragonstone should pay off somehow.

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    52. sun,

      Not exactly. Sometimes he lets his emotions get away from him. i.e. Ramsey shooting at Rickon……Jon gets pissed and just takes off. Ramsey knew he would and he did. I believe it’s one thing he’s got to try and control better. If someone knows they can play you and what will play you………they freakin’ will. Cannot wait for #7!

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    53. I really, really wish that Jon and Dany fans would stop this horrible back and forth with each other. It has gone on too long and it’s way past annoying. A lot of “mine is better than yours” going on here. All of this petty squabbling needs to cease.

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    54. Geralt of Rivia,

      So i see now we are back to denial ..

      All that line says is that daario is not the last one to love her and there will come others ..
      If anything that line only strengthen the arguments of jon and dany falling in love than against it

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    55. jdtargstark:
      avdar,

      lol, more like he’s slightly going on reek mode again. Trying to walk away to avoid confrotation. Reminds me of the times sansa confronted him in winterfell. I bet he just says sorry and starts cry and stuttering again. And Jon, much like yara, feels a bit disgusted and walks away.

      Also, the fact that the ironborn or the dothraki for that matter does absolutely nothing about it when jon grabs him, it’s pretty telling. Note that Tyrion didn’t even bother to go along to welcome him.

      Yara was the thing holding him together. Having just lost her to that psychopath might be just what it takes to make theon starts crumbling again, sadly.

      This is interesting. I always wondering why he try to walk pass trough Jon. This make sense

      And no, i don’t believe people who commenting “that’s because he still get so cocky and arrogant toward Jon, he betrayed Robb ect”. No, he barely looking people at the eyes last season and now he get so cocky towards the Starks that he wronged, when he clearly show his guilt in season 5 and 6? unless they choose to skip all the Theon scenes (like one of my friend did), then i understand XD

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    56. avdar:
      jdtargstark,Jon snow worshipers started this crap , little exaggerated but this happens after Jon Snow tells his story about how he was outcast

      Cragen,

      correction She will bang him

      Right… Jon didn’t bang Melisandre. I mean… have you seen Melisandre? The woman is absolutely gorgeous. She was right there, right in his face and he did nothing. Why do you think he will suddenly, in 4 or 5 episodes fall madly in love with Dany? I know this might be a shock to you, but just because 2 characters on the show and you (clearly) are obsessed with her doesn’t mean Jon and everyone else has to feel the same.

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    57. Andrew,

      He more likely tried to pretend Jon wasn’t there because he wanted to avoid a confrontation and if his sister has been kidnapped he probably wanted to get to Dany as soon as possible.

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    58. Geralt of Rivia,

      I don`t actually care who will end up loving who or who will marry who, I want it to look natural, well filmed and make sens story wise.
      Best option for me would be personal union between Dany and Jon, for now.

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    59. dragonbringer:
      Geralt of Rivia,

      So i see now we are back to denial ..

      All that line says is that daario is not the last one to love her and there will come others ..
      If anything that line only strengthen the arguments of jon and dany falling in love than against it

      Agree. Because the real war isn’t between few squabbling houses. The real war is between The living and the dead. And make no mistake, the dead are coming.

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    60. solomon585858:
      I think Varys and Tyrion will see that Dany slowly turns into the Mad Queen but being will Jon in this season will change her. He will be the one to make her understand what is the true goal and by falling in love with him she will slowly change.

      Here we go again with the Mad Queen theories… How many times do D&D have to say Daenerys is NOT turning into a vilain?? I know you really, REALLY want it to happen so Jon can really shine as the “hero” of the story but it’s not happening. Accept this and move on or stay mad and seethe.

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    61. I want to know why everyone is grossed out by Jaime and Cersei’s relationship but then it’s ok for Dany to marry and love her nephew! I want to know.

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    62. RJ,

      Right? I don’t hate Jon and i’m not even Dany’s fans. but all this Jon-centric enthusiasm just escapes me. Like, it’s clear that GoT is a story about many people with many PoV, each of storyline has it own character conflict and development arc. why Jon should be the centre of this universe? XD

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    63. Andrew,

      I know. It baffles me that people think Theon is acting cocky. That’s not who he is anymore. That old Theon is long gone. Theon feels deeply guilty for everything he’s done against the Starks. He has avoided Jon twice already. First when Winterfell was under siege and Maester Luwin suggested he should go to the wall and take the black. Second when sansa suggested the same. And I don’t even think is fear. I think he just wants to live solely to make amends for the things he’s done. That’s why after leaving sansa in safety with brienne, he goes to pyke and tries to help yara. He doesn’t want to be forgiven either, he said so himself. He knows what he did to the starks AND the north is unforgivable. He did help sansa, but it was almost too late. He could’ve prevented most of the terrible stuff sansa went through because of ramsay. So in the end, I think he’s done nothing more than his duty to his REAL family by helping sansa escape. But I guess people see what they want to see rather than logic.

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    64. RJ,

      I agree. I thought we had gotten past this, Dany is “mad” craze. The show has filled it’s Mad Queen quota with Cersei Lannister.

      Dany is a rescuer, she surrounds herself with people who she sees some of herself in. The broken, the downtrodden, the outcasts. There is no way that Dany, who has raised herself up from being a pawn to her abusive brother, will suddenly turn on the little people. It’s not happening and it’s high time people get over that obsession.

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    65. RJ,

      For starters ,
      cersei is married to another and of all people a king no less
      Jamie is taken the oath of Kingsguard ..

      If these are not enough then comes the fact they are twins and grown up together..

      Now you tell me how is jamie-cersei is even comparable to jon- dany

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    66. RJ,

      Well, they didn’t grow up together and they have no idea they are actually related.

      Plus, they are targaryens and that’s what targaryens do. Jk

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    67. Wildlings are as bad as the old way Ironborn, they raid and steal the women, but Jon is perfectly ok with them, and apparently so are the northeners now, so I guess he would be happy to have them in the alliance.
      With Theon is just a personal thing.
      Poor Theon 🙁

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    68. purpleofhair,

      Everybody have double standards when it come to there favorite character. Example, some people see Dany burning slave master and they applaud, then when Arya kill Walder Frey same people say she is crazy assassin and there is no way for her to have normal life, and other way around.

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    69. RJ,

      Oh god totally agree
      But this happens with every character, for example, Sansa, for some people she is the future queen of the seven kingdoms and máster manipulator and for other people she is a useless, dumb traitor, it depends whether you like the character or not

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    70. Chreechree,

      I think you are oversimplifying the motives/reasons behind Theon’s decision to kill the miller’s boys. He did not do it to impress his men, he did it out of fear of losing their support. And it even wasn’t his idea, Theon has always been so weak that he got truly manipulated into making stupid decisions. He is in constant battle with himself, you can truly see the good but it is almost always overwhelmed by the insecurities and the need to prove himself, to be accepted. This of course doesn’t excuse what he did or change the fact that he actually ordered the murder of innocent people. The act was despicable and I hated Theon with a passion for a long time. Having said that, Theon is such a complex character that I would venture to say he’s the most human of all of them. He doesn’t fit into the hero role or the anti-hero or even the villain. He is beautifully written.

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    71. I tell myself every day I won’t come back to this site anymore. It is spoiling season 7 big time! But I can’t help myself! June seems sooooo far off, what if I don’t live that long? At least, I will have had a few blurry pictures.

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    72. RJ,

      A few things, narrative speaking, Jon nor Dany know they are related. Jon and Dany were not raised together. Jon and Dany are meeting as two single adults.

      Jaime and Cersei are twins. Grew up together. Cersei was a married woman who passed the children that she had with her brother off as Robert’s.

      I’m not saying one is better than the other, but the circumstances of these characters getting to an intimate point would be completely different.

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    73. lalla,

      Jon is lucky the surviving Wildlings aren’t any of the human eating cannibal ones.
      It doesn’t make sense to me how people consider the dothraki as raping, murdering monsters when the wildlings can be just as bad. Both are considered savages by everyone else

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    74. RJ,

      Maybe because they are completely two different things.Jaime and Cersei are twins and grew up together not to mention have done a lot of fucked up shit for their relationship.Jon and Dany are aunt and nephew and most importantly they grew up appart and have no idea who the other is.

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    75. dragonbringer,

      Jaime and Cersei are related. Jon and Dany are related. Pretty comparable to me.

      Jaime and Cersei’s relationship is disgusting because they’re brother and sister. Point blank period. Please stop acting as if Cersei’s marriage to Robert is anywhere near the top 3 of reasons why her relationship with Jaime is disgusting. Because Robert cheated on Cersei every day of the week and no one said anything. Also, Jaime’s oath?? What about Jon’s oath??? But you still shipped Jygritte didn’t you? Didn’t you?? ^_^

      My point is Jon and Dany are related. Like.. really, really related. Jon and Dany hooking up would be like Lyanna and Robb hooking up or Tyrion and Myrcella or Arya and Edmure. It’s gross and I wish people would stop supporting this fuckery.

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    76. dragonbringer,

      How it strengths the idea?

      I do see possibility for them fall in love (i see many scenarios even for Jon being dead or King at the end). There are people who thinks Jon will be with Sansa or even Arya thanks to books. Personally, I don’t want Jon with any family member.

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    77. Jenny,

      Theon wouldn’t do that, though and he did’t. It was Ramsay who burned Winterfel and it was Ramsay who was behind the killing of the miller’s boys. (As it was Dagmer in the show.)

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    78. Richard,

      You can fire tarballs from catapults like masters could have done in Mereen. Ships equipped with catapults are actually more dangerous for dragons, than their fire for ships.

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    79. This scene should be excellent. Really looking forward to it!

      In line with what others have already said, I’m taking the apparent absence of Yara as a sign that this scene takes place after the rumored naval battle with Euron. That would imply that Euron defeats his niece and nephew, and Yara is the Greyjoy sibling who is captured. That was always the more likely outcome – Theon’s already been a captive for a good part of the series, and placing him back under the thumb of another sadist wouldn’t have been the most interesting way to use the character. But it does make me fear for Yara, who I gained a vast amount of regard for during Season 6. I’d be saddened to lose her in Season 7.

      My belief has generally been that one of the Greyjoy siblings would die in the war with their uncle, but not both. Since Yara appears to be Euron’s clutches, things obviously aren’t looking good for her at the moment, and Theon is definitely a more central character than she is. On the other hand, Theon can’t further the Greyjoy line, as they say, so if Yara dies – as Euron certainly will, eventually – the house is pretty much finished (I suppose Aeron could pick up the pieces, but that doesn’t seem likely, and the Ironborn could always choose another leader, but it wouldn’t be anyone we know). If the Greyjoys aren’t going to follow the Boltons, the Martells, the Tyrells, and the Baratheons (depending on what happens with Gendry) into extinction, Yara would need to be the one to survive. Assuming that either of them survive, of course.

      While there’s a part of me that would very much like to see Theon survive this story and find some measure of lasting peace, I think that’s too optimistic. I’ve generally been of the opinion that reconciliation and a valiant death is about the best that Theon can realistically hope for after all he’s been through. As such, I’d like to see him gather himself together and lead a mission to free his sister and kill his uncle – a mission that would probably result in his death. But that may be too clean of an ending for this particular branch of the story.

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    80. Pam,

      Maybe because in all the encounters we’ve had with the Wildlings we’ve never seen a wedding party where they kill each other for fun and have sex in front of everyone? I mean we had the Thenns but the Thenns are a sub-culture within the Wildlings not the norm. Also the Wildlings don’t have the habit of slaving people. Yes, they raid and steal and kill but I wonder if they would do that if they were let in as part of the Westeros culture and were no longer considered the ‘savages’ from beyond the Wall?

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    81. purpleofhair:
      I really, really wish that Jon and Dany fans would stop this horrible back and forth with each other. It has gone on too long and it’s way past annoying. A lot of“mine is better than yours” going on here. All of this petty squabbling needs to cease.

      silly isn’t it, just to add; it takes two to bang, anything less then that is by our standards is rape.

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    82. RJ,

      Honestly, in the context of this show and story, Jon and Dany possibly falling in love hardly even registers. The first episode we got first hand sibling incest and we’ve seen worse than that since.

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    83. RJ,

      Yeah I’m fine with it.First of all because it’s fiction.I’m all for people murdering each other in the show but I’m not advocating for it in real life.Second of all Westeros has a different view on incest.There are some uncle-niece and first cousin marriages on the Stark family and let’s not even mention the Targaryens.Also in the real world there are plenty of cultures who still practice first cousin marriage it’s not my place to judge.In the case of Jon and Dany the taboo is even less of a factor The Westermarck effect is non-existent with them.So yeah honestly the fact that they share DNA doesn’t bother me on the contrary it makes for great dramatic conflict.

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    84. Pam: Jon is lucky the surviving Wildlings aren’t any of the human eating cannibal ones.
      It doesn’t make sense to me how people consider the dothraki as raping, murdering monsters when the wildlings can be just as bad. Both are considered savages by everyone else

      There is some huge differences between Dothraki and Wildlings.

      The Wildlings was excluded from Westeros society due to being born on the wrong side of a Wall. What exactly is there for the Wildlings on the other side of the Wall?

      It is almost impossible to farm and to create cities, and to evolve as a society.
      On top of that the Wildlings have actually aided the people of Westeros before, they helped during the Long Night and with Nights King. And yet they are still hunted within Westeros and by the Nights Watch.
      What did the people in Westeros expect them to do on the other side of the Wall? They are obviously going to raid within Westeros since they have no resources.
      They did raid within the North from time to time, but unlike for example the Ironborn they never took whole castles or land for themselves.

      Jon let them pass the Wall with the idea that they could farm the Gift and the New Gift, and the Wildlings were perfectly happy with that. Most of the Wildlings are just trying to survive in their harsh conditions, all most of them ever wanted was to live some place warmer with better farm land.
      Of course like any group there are also a few bad apples like the Thenns in the TV show, who doesn’t always have such intentions.

      Also unlike the Dothraki and even the Ironborn to some degree, they have a much more evolved society in many ways. They believe in freedom, men and women are equal and they dont follow leaders due to succession.

      Unlike the Dothraki they have a long history with the people of Westeros. If the Dothraki helps to fight against long night, then they will also start to have a history within Westeros. But right now they are very different.

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    85. RJ:
      I want to know why everyone is grossed out by Jaime and Cersei’s relationship but then it’s ok for Dany to marry and love her nephew! I want to know.

      Everyone in Westerous is aware of Cersei and Jamie, only the readers and informed show watchers know about Danny and Jon.

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    86. Elizabeth: I think Jon got a lot off his chest in that scene with Theon and I’m sure he’s still angry, but he is no fool and because of the alliance with Dany he can’t pummel him as I’m sure he wants…lol. Theon did save Sansa so he redeemed himself to some extent and I believe THAT is why Jon will eventually forgive, but not forget, what Theon did to the Starks.

      It will be an interesting conversation since Jon now knows more of Sansa’s story than Theon. I am guessing that Theon has found out about Ramsay?

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    87. Rawr!!! Angry Jon is sexy!! I love my boy and he has a right to be pissed but I feel bad for Theon. Seems obvious to me that this scene is after his disastrous sea battle with Euron and Yara’s capture. Theon’s probably barely holding it together and then to be yelled at by Jon – I wouldn’t be surprised if we see Reek re-emerge. I doubt Theon is going to find much sympathy from anyone on Dragonstone, except for kind Missandei.

      Elizabeth:

      I’m afraid that poor Yara is going to be a goner this season, but if that is the case, what will happen with the Ironborn?The crews that left with Yara and Theon weren’t following Theon, they were following Yara.Will they abandon Dany and turn tail if something happens to Yara?That’s my concern.I don’t think Dany is going to have an easy time of getting all the parties together to try and take Westeros.Now that would be an interesting turn of affairs.What do you think?

      I too wonder what will become of the Dany/Ironborn alliance once Yara is out of the picture. If there are any survivors besides the ones in the little boat with Theon, where will they go? I wouldn’t be surprised if we never hear from them again or we learn they pledged themselves to Euron. Either way, I don’t think Dany will have to worry about making the Ironborn and her other allies (primarily the Northerners) play nice because I think the Ironborn part of Dany’s navy will be no more.

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    88. TheKingWhoCares,

      Told you from the beginning that Dragonpit will be anything but a place of some peaceful parlay between Dany + Missandei and Davos + Brienne. And from the dressing of the Italica ruins it’s even more clear: this will be the arena for the trial by combat. Cersei’s champion is obvious: it would be an absolute waste not to show the Frankenmountain in action. So, who will be under charge and who will be the champion? My first idea was Dany (though she would be captured during the earlier battle), but now it has proved to be false. Yara comes to mind (Cersei may use her trial as a bait to lure Dany out), but Yara will be Euron’s captive and that dude has his own gruesome ways, besides that neither Yara, nor the Sand Snakes some of which might end up captured by Euron too, will request or agree on the trial by combat. So, who would be left? SANSA.
      For several days I have been thinking (and writing), that Littlefinger will turn tables on the Starks as soon as he learns that Cersei and Euron have defeated Dany. But he won’t be able to do that in a straightforward way: the knights of the Vale won’t support him. So, I assume some provocation will be arranged at the Bloody Gates of the Vale in cooperation with Cersei (the Mountain Clans may be involved, as well as Bronn based on S1 foreshadowing). If so, Sansa will be compelled to go to the aid of the cousin who came to hers and as she doesn’t trust Littlefinger, she might decide to go herself (with the knights of the Vale of cause). But Littlefinger will outsmart and kidnap her (that might be the sequence to be filmed in Iceland, which was used to film the path leading to the Bloody Gates). One way or another, Sansa will end up in KL and Cersei will accuse her in Joffrey’s murder, which Sansa will deny and that will lead to the trial by combat Cersei will be intending to use for public power demonstration (and/or as a bait to lure Jon and Dany from Dragonstone).

      Brienne and probably Sandor Clegane will be hasting to KL to help Sansa; Team-Dragonstone will be planning something too; however, IMO, it will be Jaime who will wreck Cersei’s plans stepping in as Sansa’s champion. And then it will end: Frankenmountain will be taken out by the joint efforts of the three; the crowd will see that Cersei is not unbeatable and turn on her under Gendry’s leadership etc. And unless one of the Dany’s dragons is converted into a Frankendragon (by Qyburn and warlocks) Cersei will have no chance to escape. However, Sansa may be killed in the fray as well as many other characters.
      (And the Wall may be breached about the same time too).

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    89. I hope Theon survives Jon’s wrath… but I will understand if he’s sentenced to death. I will cry my eyes out if that happens though. lol

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    90. Why are we so sure that this is Dragonstone? It looks a little too bright and cheery, to me, to be Dragonstone.
      Could it be Casterly Rock? Tyrion has returned home and he knows how to sneak in through the caves. He was in charge of redesigning the sewer system remember.

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    91. RJ,

      So they are related is only comparison you are going for ..
      If you think cersei being married is not one of the factor that people dislike then you are wrong. .
      If she is not married then it would not have been cheating or no need to have the relationship secret…Secrets which lead to lots of damage to westeros..

      Again the characters you have listed is not comparable to dany jon situation at all.

      Jenny,

      And what she has said .

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    92. Richard:
      Geralt of Rivia,

      How do you lose a naval battle when you have dragons on you side? They just need to drop dragon fire from high altitude. Very poor battle strategy by someone if they lost.

      I get the feeling the Greyjoys didn’t lose a naval battle with a dragon along. The dragons at this point aren’t going to follow instruction from anyone but Daenerys and I’m thinking she won’t be with them. She really can’t be at every battle. Yara and Theon may have taken the ships and men that they thought adequate but ended up being surprised by Euron’s numbers, perhaps with assistance from Cersei’s men and the royal fleet.

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    93. I said in a different thread I think Yara will end up as

      the bride Euron has and takes her tongue out and ties her under the silent’s figure head.

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    94. I think that theon walking past Jon is more of a “I need to go tell the queen what happened” and Jon basically saying “I’m not done yet” by grabbing him. I could see him trembling in fear before he attempts to walk by. I doubt we will get a cocky Theon again.

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    95. Richard,

      Only way to explain it. Yara is supposed to be captured. Also, Dany’s dragons can’t be everywhere. If they don’t have a rider, than has to fly with them in formation.

      Cragen,

      Then why Jon and Dany? They can pair them with other characters or not pair with with anyone.. Don’t see, how love is so important in the awake of white walkers invasion.

      lalla,

      Happy to have them in alliance? I wouldn’t call him happy, but given ice friends up in the North, he put aside differences if the other side is reasonable. Ironborn are not against them or at least Yara/Theon part.

      Northerners never said they do like wildlings but important things wildlings did helped reclaim Winterfell for Starks. What Ironborn did? Sacked Winterfell and kill many people. Yes, they do share similarity of raiding, raping and reeving. And as Jon said, under normal circumstances he won’t be friends with wildings neither but given white walkers and their army.

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    96. RJ: Jaime and Cersei are related. Jon and Dany are related. Pretty comparable to me.

      Jaime and Cersei’s relationship is disgusting because they’re brother and sister. Point blank period. Please stop acting as if Cersei’s marriage to Robert is anywhere near the top 3 of reasons why her relationship with Jaime is disgusting. Because Robert cheated on Cersei every day of the week and no one said anything. Also, Jaime’s oath?? What about Jon’s oath??? But you still shipped Jygritte didn’t you? Didn’t you?? ^_^

      My point is Jon and Dany are related. Like.. really, really related. Jon and Dany hooking up would be like Lyanna and Robb hooking up or Tyrion and Myrcella or Arya and Edmure. It’s gross and I wish people would stop supporting this fuckery.

      This is a story within Westeros, and within Westeros aunt and nephew or an uncle and a niece are not considered to be insestious. That is the established rules within the story. Sure we can add our own modern day morality to the story, but that would just take away from the tale that is being told.

      It is quite strange how people can understand arranged marriages, the feudal system, people murdering and killing each other over minor insults and laws, but for some reason people can’t understand that relationships such as cousins or aunts and nephews are not seen as being insestious.

      The main problem with Jaime and Cersei is that they are committing treason. It is treason to pass off bastards as the rulers of the kingdom, when they are not the real heirs. On top of that, Jaime and Cersei’s relationship is insestious wihtin the laws of Weseros.
      The Targaryen only got away with this type of custom because they were conquerors and they had dragons.

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    97. solomon585858,

      This is not Disney where ‘fall in love with him’ is something that only takes a glance between each other. Jon is not that easy I think and Danny…she’s way different than those kind of girls who just ‘fall in love with’ so easily

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    98. Geralt of Rivia,

      I don’t talk about love, I talk about personal union. Why Jon and Dany? Because it would be stupid if Jon has been crowned as KITN in his last scene last season only to lost his crown in next season. On the other hand, if North stay independent then we no longer have 7 Kingdom and I don’t see reason for Dany to accept it. If they pull it of differently and it’s well wrapped in story I wouldn’t have problem with that.

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    99. singedbylife,

      Yeah I know I was just quoting the passage.But he did betray Robb,kill Rodrick,took Winterfell and Bran and Rickon left because of that.Look I love Theon and I think he has more than atoned for everything that he did but I understand Jon’s pov and I would probably react the same.

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    100. RJ:
      dragonbringer,

      Jaime and Cersei are related. Jon and Dany are related. Pretty comparable to me.

      Jaime and Cersei’s relationship is disgusting because they’re brother and sister. Point blank period. Please stop acting as if Cersei’s marriage to Robert is anywhere near the top 3 of reasons why her relationship with Jaime is disgusting. Because Robert cheated on Cersei every day of the week and no one said anything. Also, Jaime’s oath?? What about Jon’s oath??? But you still shipped Jygritte didn’t you? Didn’t you?? ^_^

      My point is Jon and Dany are related. Like.. really, really related. Jon and Dany hooking up would be like Lyanna and Robb hooking up or Tyrion and Myrcella or Arya and Edmure. It’s gross and I wish people would stop supporting this fuckery.

      First of all I don’t really ship Jon and Dany as couple either and I agree incest is gross, but you have to remember that this game of thrones basically the majority of the couples on the show/books are related. Now If you like it or not incest is kind of part of GRRM fictional world that he has created just like rape, murder and torture is non of things are right, but it’s part of the GoT univers.

      Second of all you can’t compare Cersei and Jamie too Jon and Dany.Yes both are related, but Cersei and Jamie are twins who literally grew up together as brother and sister they knew from the get go that their related and still chose to engage in a romantic relationship. Jon and Dany on the other hand don’t even know each or much less the fact that their related too each other, not mention that marriage between Cousins or Uncles and Nieces are not really uncommon in Westors or the medieval ages in general not that I want them to get married, but it wouldn’t be really far fetched either.

      And third, but not least even thought I as well am not a huge fan of Jon and Danny either, the fact still is that GRRM and the show runners D&D don’t really give a shit of what we like or don’t like they never did and never will, they tell their story as they feel like it and if they feel like that Jon and Dany should be together than they will bring them together if people like it or not there is nothing we can do about it so I guess we should just learn to deal with it. lol

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    101. Jenny,

      Yeah, that’s one of the attractions of the show, isn’t it. Two sympathetic characters can oppose each other and still be right from their respective povs.

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    102. Inga,

      Okay, sorry, but your theories and story ideas get more ‘out there’ every day. So now Sansa will lead an army and be captured. Daenerys will be defeated and essentially in hiding. Brienne, Sandor and Jaime will be a three-headed champion and Gendry will be the big hero… hmmm….

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    103. Ivarareios,

      He might be little bit in love, which leads to what he said and that look he gave her. It all adds up. Dany might never return his feelings but that scene as about other men feelings for her. I don’t see Jon being anywhere in the scene or being hinted at.

      Cragen,

      I thought you mean as love story. Usually that¨s what I imagine with the word “union”. Marriage is possible and Dany intends that or so she said, but in this case it might be even loveless one for the good of the realm. Bringing the North back in the fold, Jon got his army and dragons. Then Jon will realize he married his aunt and gonna be a bit more broodig than usual, Jumping at conclusion that they gonna marry and fall in love is a bit premature. Political marriage might just be that, like Cat and Ned did, with a difference one or both might die.

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    104. The other big difference between a hypothetical Tyrion and Myrcella pairing and a Jon/Dany romance is age. J & D are the same age and didn’t know each other growing up. Whereas Tyrion is an adult who watched the child Myrcella grow up. That’s quite a bit squickier than a possible J/D romance. (And I say this as someone who’s by no means a Jon/Dany shipper but has accepted the reality that their pairing is likely to happen.)

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    105. Myname,

      Yeah I’d say that’s them. But I’m not sure at that actual moment it was a scene or in between takes. Now it’s probable they are going to shoot a scene though.

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    106. purpleofhair,

      Thank you!!! Same goes for Arya -Sansa fans.When i want to support or defend my favorite character i don’t need to bring up other characters to do that .when i read things like “A character is good because B character is bad” i cringe.You don’t prove that your favorite isn’t an ass ,you just proved that there is a bigger ass in the show . And it doesn’t do justice to Jon’s character if you have to point out Dany’s mistakes in order to prove how awesome he is.Same goes for Dany (and Sansa and Arya).

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    107. Geralt of Rivia:
      Cragen,

      Iam not sure that Jon will band Dany or even love. That line Tyrion said to her.

      “How Daario is not the last man to love her.”It seems some foreshadowing maybe that it’s going to be Tyrion who will be the last to love. Maybe, Jon not gonna return feelings eventually. If she even has some for him. There’s gonna be some twist to it.

      That being said Drogo, Hizdar and Jon will be important to her character and journey. How she’s gonna evolve as a person.

      ghost of winterfell,

      True that. Also agree with your opinion about Jon and Theon. Jon, Arya, Bran or Sanasa got every reason to judge him. He grew up with them, they were his family. Yes, Ned killed or their army his brothers but because of war their father started. Ned is took care of him or Jon for that matter.

      solomon585858,

      I wouldn’t really believes in those leaks. It contradicts what we know.

      According to leaks Dany will respect Jon immediately, but Jon to Dany not as much.

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    108. Richard,

      How do you lose a naval (or any other) battle with 3 dragons (and 1 thousand ships and 10 thousand men)? Let’s look from the other side: how do you win a battle against such odds?
      Task #1: Find out the exact landing location of your enemy. Sand Snakes, especially Ellaria might be very helpful, if you take her daughter(s) hostage(s);
      Task #2: Build as many ballistas as possible and if there are any kind of poison/drugs that work against dragons immerse the bolts into that;
      Task #3: attack your enemy unprepared (half-landed would be ideal) and try to be creative – some kind of a pincer maneuver and/or a decoy… You should bring the dragons into the reach of your ballistas, and it would be a good idea to cover them somehow, so what about wagons? If only you dress your wagons as Martell of Tyrell – probably Tyrell, as they are known as food providers. But how you bring Dany and her dragons to that train? Of cause: the supposed Tyrell wagon train must be ambushed by the Lannisters in the proximity of Dany’s camp, so she rushes to the site on her dragons and then you take them down. And then the panic breaks out, and you attack the camp pushing the intruders back into the ships; and then in the final stage your best friend Euron comes from the rear with a bunch or branders (fire-ships).

      That’s how you might win a battle against 3 dragons (and 1 thousand ships and 10 thousand men), though Cersei might think of something even better.

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    109. Was watching blackish now and a reference to GOT and jon snow namedrop …this is the second time they use GOt reference in the show..

      I love when others shows use game of thrones references

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    110. It seems the guy with a white hat in the middle of the picture is filming them… So maybe it really is a scene?

      Jon and Dany will probably have a lot of time together in Dragonstone, and I’m loving it.

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    111. Myname,

      Clob,

      dragonbringer,

      ghost of winterfell,

      It does look as though they’re holding hands from that angle, but I think its either the photo quality or just the way they’re standing or perhaps Kit and Emilia are trolling us.

      I know that if I was in their shoes, with the paps filming everything, then I’d be creating all kinds of mischief…kissing, embracing- the lot. And Kit does appear to be looking in the direction of the camera..

      Edit: The camera crew aren’t even facing them…so they’re not filming… Trolled.

      PAP4U where are you when we need you!! 🙂

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    112. Theon’s in pretty good shape now, running in and pulling the boat like that.

      I was up way too late last night and am now giggling inappropriately because my brain keeps splicing Jon and Theon with Homer strangling Bart. ?

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    113. It’s a little funny that we’re seeing all these pics and vids and the cast and crew are fully aware that they’re being taken and put up all over the internet. Surely they’re not happy about it, but they have to shoot the scenes.

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    114. Dany is wearing something different or at looks like it. I wonder how many scenes they’ll have together?

      EDIT:It looks like they’re just wlaking and Kit is looking at camera. Weird and crew doesn’t appaear to be filming. They might be trolling people here. But they have to shoot scenes.

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    115. RJ: My point is Jon and Dany are related. Like.. really, really related. Jon and Dany hooking up would be like Lyanna and Robb hooking up or Tyrion and Myrcella or Arya and Edmure. It’s gross and I wish people would stop supporting this fuckery.

      No two persons are more related than siblings especially twins. At least they are not identical. Dany and Jon do not share the same 100% DNA. Remember Jon has Stark DNA. Actually throughout the history of Westeros most families would marry in the family. Even the Starks married cousins.

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    116. Jenny,

      I love this new outfit and her hair.
      They must be trolling right now..

      Anyways even if that’s not an actual scene ..
      We know they will be filming there …so that’s another outdoor shoot for them

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    117. avdar:
      Cragen,

      lol, according to reddit leak before Dany toys with Jon

      Jon Snow looks at Dany with puppy eyes and tells his sappy story thenhe kneels and pledge loyalty to Dany so yeah lol

      this is so exaggerated and stupid, he doesnt do that. And the leaks are probably not even 100 % right.

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    118. dragonbringer,

      The hands are close to each other but not holding. I don’t even think they’re filming in that shot. It’s always possible Kit and Emilia will troll the media though. They know every step they take is being filmed from all directions.

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    119. Geralt of Rivia,

      Well we already know of two alone and I suspect there will be some others.Otherwise they would all be inside but if there are several they don’t want to repeat the setting.It gets boring cinematically.Also I don’t think they are holding hands.Just walking really close together.

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    120. solomon585858,

      As this is a reference free zone. I was wondering if you are to be found else where online as I need

      reference to this particular scene for further discussion with someone.

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    121. Holy shit, even more Jon and Dany scenes?! I wasn’t a Jonerys fan before but these last few days are making it real tempting to jump on that ship. But no I don’t think they’re holding hands.

      Jon’s outfit is different yet again. I don’t know if it’s because they’re not filming yet and Kit removed the black leather brigandine (and the gorget) or if it Jon’s casual wear for strolling-the-ramparts-of-Dragonstone-with-his-new-girlfriend outfit. The reason I think it might be an entirely new outfit is because this one has a black belt which in yesterday’s beach scenes (where Kit was in between takes and was wearing his glasses and had removed the outer black leather) there was no such belt. If so, hell yeah, the KITN has a hell of a wardrobe this year.

      Back to the Dany and Jon: so we have this new scene, the scene from Saturday of Jon walking down the steps to Dany, and most likely an indoor scene when they first meet. And who knows how many more yet to come. Honestly, this is far more than I would’ve thought possible when S6 ended. Back then I assumed Jon and Dany wouldn’t meet until the end of the season (if at all), but I’m glad D&D have upended so many of my predictions and I find myself pleasantly surprised.

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    122. Geralt of Rivia:
      Dany is wearing something different or at looks like it. I wonder how many scenes they’ll have together?

      EDIT:It looks like they’re just wlaking and Kit is looking at camera. Weird and crew doesn’t appaear to be filming. They might be trolling people here. But they have to shoot scenes.

      Agreed..I said so upthread. She is smirking and he’s staring right at the camera. The camera crew aren’t even facing them..

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    123. Yeah it’s appearing to me there is going to be a hell of a lot more Jon and Dany scenes than I imagined in season 7. And this is just exterior from one location. No telling how many interior studio scenes they will do and other possible exterior scenes in perhaps Ireland and maybe even Iceland later in the year. Now, I know the end is near and it’s all been leading up to this but I do hope the time is allocated well for some of the other characters and plot too.

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    124. dragonbringer,

      I also don’t think they are filming yet.But I don’t think they are trolling though.I know people keep saying how can HBO let this happen etc but in reality there is not much they can do.If you read the Spanish articles you realize security is extremely tight imagine only people who live in the neighborhood are allowed to go on the villages but there is not much they can do against open air.If you look at the geography it’s clear they are very far away but with the technology it exist you film from miles ahead.Also this has happened past year too.The confrontation at the sept,the temple burning,BOB,aryavswaif etc but this year the interest is increased tenfold because of the people involved.

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    125. Hope Jon doesn’t forget to negotiate for a ton of dragonglass while he’s there. Or better yet, get Davos to do the negotiating.

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    126. Apollo,

      Or even they’re walking to shoot a scene or did already. They know photos and video leaked out. Let¨s make it fun for paparazzi.

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    127. Jenny,

      Kit is looking directly that way and tha means he sees them. So not that far away. Emilia smirking ,so they’re milking the hell out of it. They’re meeting so why not use to promote the show and hype.

      Luka.

      Looked again at the pic of Jon sitting in the boat and davos on the bach. You really sure it’s from their arrival? Because it seems weird. I don’t want to question you’re souces but looks like Jon is leaving and they’re pushing boat into sea.

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    128. orange,

      Well Jon Dany and Tyrion have always been characters with big amounts of screentime and now they are in the same place for a part of the season so obviously a lot of time will be spent there.The other characters will continue to have the same amount of screentime they always .have.

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    129. Clob,

      Let’s assume they ARE filming (or at least rehearsing). Kit Harington and Rose Leslie are such a nice couple and yellow press is already making life hard to them.

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    130. BunBunStark: Back to the Dany and Jon: so we have this new scene, the scene from Saturday of Jon walking down the steps to Dany, and most likely an indoor scene when they first meet. And who knows how many more yet to come. Honestly, this is far more than I would’ve thought possible when S6 ended. Back then I assumed Jon and Dany wouldn’t meet until the end of the season (if at all), but I’m glad D&D have upended so many of my predictions and I find myself pleasantly surprised.

      Yeah, at the end of season six I figured that they would meet in 707 or 801. Nope, looks like they meet long before that, and build up some sort of working alliance in that time (or are at least working towards it). Even though there are fewer episodes this year, I think that the main actors will get the same amount of screen time as before – possibly more – as they will be in scenes together. I hope we get to see the famous Dragonstone painted table map of Westeros again (it appeared in season two). But it does look like we will get a lot of Dragonstone scenes; I doubt, however, that we will know until the show airs just how much, as lots of them will likely be interior shots. Very exciting!!! I cannot wait for the first scene with Jon, Daenerys and Tyrion.

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    131. So what? Does everbody get romantically involved with his nephew or his aunt only because they meet each other? I don’t think so!

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    132. They’re not holding hands LOL. It’s just the angle. They’re walking and moving hands, and the person snapped a pic at the exact moment their hands were close in motion.

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    133. Geralt of Rivia,

      The photo with Jon in the boat and Davos standing in front is definitely from yesterday’s filming, and yesterday they were filming arrival. Of cause theoretically they could have filmed departure as well, but in that case Jon would be sitting facing the sea, not other way round. And there was another picture with Jon arriving on the boat without Davos: Jon is standing ready to go ashore while his men are holding the boat. So yes, weird as it seams, Jon will be arriving on his own and Davos will be the first to welcome him on Dragonstone; Tyrion and co. comes afterwards.

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    134. All those articles and photos from media outlets (mainly tabloids). We’ve had many spoilers from the Spanish sets (unlike those in Northern Ireland) over the years but not like this year. It’s way more than before. And the level of attention the Spanish filming garners, HBO must be loving it.

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    135. Danny,

      I fully acknowledge that I’m oversimplifying Theon’s motives as I was writing a blurb and not a multi-page character analysis, but I assert it boils down to the same thing. Regardless of inducements, manipulation, or faulty reasoning, he still chose to murder two children because he felt it would strengthen his position with his men (hence, my saying saving face and impressing them), and it didn’t work. He defied his father to fulfill his own ambitions. Taking Winterfell was about his own glory/ position/ need to prove himself and belong. His hubris took him down a terrible path, one that he could have diverged from many times, but he chose to press on, and he’s paid dearly for it. Don’t get me wrong. I thoroughly appreciate Theon as a complex character. This is GoT after all, and the brokenness and imperfections of the characters are what make the series so compelling. Reading the Reek chapters are a sweet torture.

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    136. RJ:
      dragonbringer,

      Jaime and Cersei are related. Jon and Dany are related. Pretty comparable to me.

      Jaime and Cersei’s relationship is disgusting because they’re brother and sister. Point blank period. Please stop acting as if Cersei’s marriage to Robert is anywhere near the top 3 of reasons why her relationship with Jaime is disgusting. Because Robert cheated on Cersei every day of the week and no one said anything. Also, Jaime’s oath?? What about Jon’s oath??? But you still shipped Jygritte didn’t you? Didn’t you?? ^_^

      My point is Jon and Dany are related. Like.. really, really related. Jon and Dany hooking up would be like Lyanna and Robb hooking up or Tyrion and Myrcella or Arya and Edmure. It’s gross and I wish people would stop supporting this fuckery.

      wow. You seem mad lol. Chill and take a pill. Jon and Dany is bound to happen since the very beggining, all the clues and signs are there. You better start to enjoy the ride, because S7 is coming in full force.

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    137. Is it possible that HBO is allowing more leaks because they want to keep the hype up over the longer “dark night” between seasons?

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    138. Emilia Stark:
      Is it possible that HBO is allowing more leaks because they want to keep the hype up over the longer “dark night” between seasons?

      Doubt it, only the hardcore fans follow there things ….

      But one thing is for sure “Westworld” is no GOT, hell i doubt there will be season 2 of that boredom.

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    139. Hoyti Von Totiy: Doubt it, only the hardcore fans follow there things ….

      But one thing is for sure “Westworld” is no GOT, hell i doubt there will be season 2 of that boredom.

      I agree with you on Westworld, I actually made it through 3 episodes. I fell asleep during the last one. Snooze fest.

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    140. Thi Targaryen,

      Actually all clues were there ( at least in the books) to hint Jon’s parentage.I don’t say it won’t happen but maybe we should wait before we consider a theory ( even a popular ),as canon.How many times have we seen people so invested in their theories , that they go crazy if they don’t happen in the end .And they start whining about Got for months .

      Also Rickard (Ned’s dad ) was Lyarra’s (Ned’s mom) nephew from Lyarra’s cousin Edwyle. Not his direct aunt.There is a difference between first cousins and second cousins. Tywin and Joanna were first cousins though . So anything can happen ! I personaly don’t have a problem either way ( i don’t care about Got romance so i don’t really ship anyone).

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    141. Wow – whats happened to this website? I don’t mind spoilers of cast and places, that just leads to a bunch of fun speculation. But these pictures are spoiling the entire season. Ive said before I don’t mind spoilers all that much, and will definitely be watching when the season starts, but am I the only one who thinks this is all too much too soon? Or are we all passed caring at this point?

      And yes you are labeling your post as spoilers so no one should be surprised by them. Just surprised that this website is doing them. Im still going to come here because I think its the best place for GOT news, but I might be more cautious about what I read passed the jump…

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    142. And I stand corrected Just finished going through this post and its obvious that these spoilers are not stopping speculation, not at all. Just wish we didn’t have to wait till next summer to see it al

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    143. Boudica,

      I think Tyrion and Davos go to KL to convince Jamie and the Lanester army to swap sides to avoid conflicts and to rally for the war to come. Meeting Gendry is a chance encounter unless of course he never left DS in the first place.

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    144. These photos are fantastic–this has to be the largest assemblage of primary actors since S1E1, when Ned, Cat, Robert, Cersei, Jaime, Tyrion, Arya, Bran, Robb, Theon, and Sansa were introduced at Winterfell. But I can’t help but be curious about what, if anything, is going on in NI. The snowy set mentioned in WOTW yesterday is being built, but surely some filming is in progress. I miss the Riverlands, Winterfell, and Wall stories and wonder about Arya, Sandor, the BWB, Sansa and Littlefinger and–of course–Edd. It’s very very likely HBO had/has a deal with the Daily Mail and PAP4U, which means photos from one place at a time, but as has several posters mentioned, these dribbles and bonanzas have kept us fans mollified.

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    145. Konna,

      Not quite. Rickard and Lyarra Stark are first cousins once removed. Your first cousin’s child is not your niece or nephew but is your first cousin once removed. Your first cousin’s children and your children are second cousins. First cousin once removed is a generational halfway point between first and second cousins.

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    146. Thi Targaryen,

      True it probably will happen, BUT they really are aunt and nephew. That bothers me. And then there’s how predictable it is, as you point out. People were assuming it from season 1 episode 1.

      I’m still hoping that they surprise instead.

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    147. I’d be willing to bet that:

      Euron captures Yara at sea, and Theon goes to Dragonstone to plead for help to save her. I agree with another poster here that in order to impress Cersei and gain her trust, or perhaps in an attempt to lure the Stark and Targeryan forces to Pyke or King’s Landing, Euron might not immediately kill Yara, but perhaps deliver her to Cersei in the first instance

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    148. Konna: pledge loyalty to Dany so yeah lol

      Konna:
      Thi Targaryen,

      Actually all clues were there ( at least in the books) to hint Jon’s parentage.I don’t say it won’t happen but maybe we should wait before we consider a theory ( even a popular ),as canon.How many times have we seen peoplesoinvested in their theories , that they go crazy if they don’t happen in the end .And they start whining about Got for months .

      Also Rickard (Ned’s dad ) was Lyarra’s (Ned’s mom) nephew from Lyarra’s cousin Edwyle. Not his direct aunt.There is a difference between first cousins and second cousins. Tywin and Joanna were first cousins though . So anything can happen ! I personaly don’t have a problem either way ( i don’t care about Got romance so i don’t really ship anyone).

      hmm, This is what i’m saying to this person… I want Jon and Dany to happen . As fan of both characters and their journey, i think all the signs are there since the very start. T And it’s SEVERAL clues. The Ice and Fire is just only one of the many clues.

      Jonerys is coming in full force and everything is beautiful

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    149. Geralt of Rivia,

      Marriage is possible and Dany intends that or so she said, but in this case it might be even loveless one for the good of the realm.

      People keep saying this, but I’m still not getting it: Why would Dany marry Jon for the good of the realm? That implies Dany has to “give” Jon something, like co-rulership, in return for something else. There is nothing else. Jon has nothing. He can’t bargain with the North, as the North is about to be overrun by Walkers and zombies.

      Dany: Give up your crown.
      Jon: I will not! I am King in the North! We are a noble people! We don’t bend the knee!
      Dany: OK. Go be king in the North. Good luck with the demons and the zombies.
      Jon: (Cough) um, err, speaking of those…I need your obsidian, and it would be ever so nice if you could fly those dragons in to smite the Walkers, and the wildfire from King’s Landing would help, too.
      Dany: Are you insane?
      Jon: I’m pretty!
      Dany: No.

      If they fall in love, and if Dany chooses to share power out of love…that would work better than a political marriage. It would also be out of character for her, but whatever.

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    150. Konna:
      Thi Targaryen,

      Actually all clues were there ( at least in the books) to hint Jon’s parentage.I don’t say it won’t happen but maybe we should wait before we consider a theory ( even a popular ),as canon.How many times have we seen peoplesoinvested in their theories , that they go crazy if they don’t happen in the end .And they start whining about Got for months .

      Also Rickard (Ned’s dad ) was Lyarra’s (Ned’s mom) nephew from Lyarra’s cousin Edwyle. Not his direct aunt.There is a difference between first cousins and second cousins. Tywin and Joanna were first cousins though . So anything can happen ! I personaly don’t have a problem either way ( i don’t care about Got romance so i don’t really ship anyone).

      Humm, i think you were talking to the other person that seems annoyed because we ship Jon and Dany. And it’s very likaly that they will be together in Season 7.

      the official confirmation of R+L=J showing that Jon is the bastard son of Rhaegar Targaryen and Lyanna Stark, Daenerys is actually Jon’s aunt. Incestuous pairings have never much bothered the Targaryens, but they and the Starks haven’t had an amicable relationship since the Mad King brutally killed Ned Stark’s father and brother.

      Still, Jon is Dany’s only logical remaining option, and their pairing would actually fulfill an ancient pact between the two houses, dating back to before all the Mad King’s madness. As Nerdist explains, during a civil war between the Targaryens, known as the Dance of the Dragons, the Starks supported the claim of Queen Rhaenyra Targaryen. The condition of this support was that a Targaryen would marry a Stark, securing an alliance between the families.

      That pact was never fulfilled with a marriage, which means it’s technically still on the table (though after Cersei’s fiery ascension to the Iron Throne, traditional rules in Westeros need not apply anymore). But it could be enough to justify Jon marrying his aunt, especially when Dany has the type of literal firepower that should prove useful when the White Walkers make their way south.

      George R.R. Martin’s A Song of Ice and Fire series posits Jon and Dany are the embodiments of ice and fire, respectively.

      In the season six finale, Dany breaks up with her lover by bluntly saying she will seek an alliance through marriage to secure her throne once she’s conquered Westeros. We’ve already seen Dany suffer through two previous political marriages, one that ended in curses and death and the other that ended in betrayal. Both men were slain as a direct or indirect result of their penchant for violence and domination.

      In order for the third marriage to stick, Dany will need a partner focused on supporting her rather than one who seeks her hand as a form of political leverage. As someone who is selfless, honor-bound and loves to fight alongside strong women, Jon fits that description.

      So, not a problem in GoT

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    151. Hoyti Von Totiy: Doubt it, only the hardcore fans follow there things ….

      But one thing is for sure “Westworld” is no GOT, hell i doubt there will be season 2 of that boredom.

      gosh, i tried. I really tried, but Westworld bored me to death. What even!

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    152. maria:
      Thi Targaryen,

      True it probably will happen, BUT they really are aunt and nephew. That bothers me. And then there’s how predictable it is, as you point out. People were assuming it from season 1 episode 1.

      I’m still hoping that they surprise instead.

      Well, Jon and Dany being together isn’t predictable, for me, the better word is fate. Dany and Jon’s journey are too much alike. They won big battles, lost others, lots of tragedy, but also always a light in the end. They’ve lost people they loved and now they’re ready for the next chapter.

      It’s like their paths are always linked to each other somehow, and this is really beautiful.

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    153. Thi Targaryen,

      They could be best friends, admire one another, rely on one another, fight together. Does it always have to be romance between people of opposite sexes? They ARE aunt and nephew. I’d love to see a big budget, action film where the bromantic guys fall for one another, and the opposite sex love interest turns into a best friend. There’s no possibility of a bromance-romance switch in GoT, but there’s room for friendship.

      I know they’ll fall in love, and I won’t object too much if they do 🙂

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    154. Thi Targaryen: Well, Jon and Dany being together isn’t predictable, for me, the better word is fate. Dany and Jon’s journey are too much alike. They won big battles, lost others, lots of tragedy, but also always a light in the end. They’ve lost people they loved and now they’re ready for the next chapter.

      It’s like their paths are always linked to each other somehow, and this is really beautiful.

      This describes most of the characters on the show. Everyone has gone thru tragedy and still surviving. Bran, Arya, Sansa, Theon, Jaime, Tyrion, Cersei to name a few.

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    155. Anon,

      It does look like Davos is already there before Jon but just why would he send his trusted advisor ahead to Dragonstone if he’s going there anyway? And if he did but then was unexpectedly summoned by Dany and crew just how much time has passed from last season and when 7 starts?

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    156. Geralt of Rivia,

      Are you talking about the first one with Davos standing at parade rest? It’s hard to tell because the crewmen are facing different directions, but I am pretty sure this is Jon arriving while Davos awaits him. It would also make a lot more sense if we are to assume those photos are in chronological order (they should be).

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    157. ygritte,

      Why would an advisor go ahead of the king into a foreign land held by those who may or may not have hostile intentions, especially when we know Davos is far better at negotiating than Jon? Hmmm, tough question.

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    158. Andrew,

      Because he is the song of ice and fire. Yes it’s also ice vs fire… big war. But all of GRRM’s stuff has double meaning. Jon is product of ice and fire. He’s the prince promised etc. So, it makes sense that he be loved and in focus. I don’t understand not loving the guy, he’s honorable and strong, Ned’s son… it’s impossible not like him.

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