Without warning, the newest Game of Thrones teaser landed this week on Thursday. While the first teaser of season 7 featured only ominous voices and Great House sigils, the new video highlights three prominent players in the game, with fresh footage: Daenerys Targaryen (Emilia Clarke), Jon Snow (Kit Harington), and Cersei Lannister (Lena Headey).
The teaser features the song “Sit Down” by Britpop act James, an unusual sound for a GoT promo, but with lyrics that suit visuals showing the monarchs on a “Long Walk” in search of a throne.
Today, we’ve rounded up the usual suspects on the Wall for a look at the teaser in our newest Murder of Crows.
The promo is finally here! Give us your gut reactions- love, hate- indifference? Did you like the music? I like the song on its own, but I’m not a fan for Game of Thrones purposes. Were you disappointed to not see other characters? I love the leads, but I’m not very excited by concentrated teasers like this, to be honest. And do you think we can really learn anything from the new teaser? Let’s hear it!
It was too much to hope for actual footage from next season, so this was the next best thing. It gives us a perfect focus for next season: we have three major monarchs, ready for action in their thrones… and the White Walkers are coming to mess up their game of thrones.
Also, we get to have a much closer look at the new costumes and sets we first glimpsed during production. Dany’s outfit is amazing: a black dress with a red cloak, finally embracing her Targaryeness! Then there’s the newly Lannister-themed Red Keep throne room, and the expansion of Dragonstone. Aside from the formidable map table room, we only ever got to see a few small rooms and corridors, so getting a new set for Dragonstone is a breath of fresh air. And that throne room looks absolutely amazing! Personally, I’m particularly psyched because they modeled the throne after the flysch rock formations in Zumaia, which is near where I live.
All I really found interesting was the Dragonstone throne, which was pretty awesome looking. Dany’s clothes were cool too. I want some actual footage though!
The teaser was pretty cool and enough to get me excited. I loved Dany’s new outfit especially! I found the song choice a bit baffling, but then I’m a British kid who grew up in the 90’s: James are more of a reminder of awkward school discos than anything else. And frankly, if they wanted to use a song themed around sitting down, they should have gone with “In My Chair” by Status Quo.
Nate:
What excited me even more than the teaser itself was that it made season 7 feel more tangible even though it’s still 4 months away. Dany’s new garb, location, and what I’ve already seen referred to as her Dragonthrone present her as queenly, Westerosi and more involved in this game of thrones than ever before.
I thought by showing the three main rulers and the fourth as a looming threat set up season 7 perfectly – though Jon may want to watch out before he finds himself in the middle of “A Clash of Queens.”
I really enjoyed it. Sure, the music was meh (though I’m hardly an authority), it didn’t do much to me. But I liked the concept, it’s been a while since we’ve had a thematic, conceptual promo that wasn’t just a half-arsed attempt at something. The Dany parts feature some really gorgeous production design and are the highlight of the teaser for me. What fans can glean from it? Dany takes Dragonstone.
I kind of liked the music also, to be honest. It made the trailer feel more stylized, especially with the wide shots of the throne rooms. I also feel like it put more emphasis on Cersei’s strut and the music helped you feel her fury.
I really liked the music, the way Cersei, Dany & Jon walked to the beat & the tongue-in-cheek way the lyrics corresponded with the characters (“touched by madness” on a shot of Cersei har har har).
On a fangirl level, I’m disappointed that none of the characters I’m most intensely invested in were included but I can’t pretend like that’s a constructive criticism. These three (plus the Night King) are the major players in the story at this point, so a trailer that stylistically emphasizes their parallels is alright by me.
As much time as we spend combing over and studying the existing content that we have, it’s almost a surreal event to be gifted with new footage even when said footage is not actually clips from the upcoming season. I’m with Marko in regards to an actual conceptual promo, and appreciate the fact that I’m not stopping on the side of the road to watch a Three-Eyed Raven vision of blurry footage derived from a previous season that will disappear if I don’t watch it within the initial seven seconds of a click. So, thank you HBO.
I’m indifferent on the musical selection. I’m sure James is a fantastic group deserving of the attention gained by being featured in the clip. I just don’t know much about them. So, kudos on that as well. I would have preferred some Father John Misty or Future Islands. But hey… to each his own!
The “coolest” thing to me was the breath of cold air exuded by Cersei while sitting atop the Iron Throne. Indeed, winter has come. And the game as she knows it is about to change completely. Jon’s disposition to me is less about him not wanting to be king and more about knowing what is coming. Regardless, my body is ready. In the meantime, I’m going to take a screenshot of the eye of the Night King (or whoever it is) and see if I can spot my own reflection. If so, I shall hastily post it on Reddit so we can dissect the finding for the next 106 days!
You and everyone else. The closeup of the Night King’s eye is either a decoder ring for season 7 or…a Rorschach inkblot that exposes what total weirdos we all are.
And finally…Bex went the extra mile this week. In addition to jotting down a few thoughts about the teaser, she recorded her live reaction, viewing the video after an off-season spent avoiding all spoilers!
In addition to her enthusiastic reaction, Bex notes about the teaser:
You get a sense of the “tentpoles,” of where the action is going to be, so it’s really fun to be left with wondering who is fighting whom (the fact that we might see Cersei and Dany face off!), that King Jon of House Gives No Fucks looks like he is about to single-handedly fight every Walker because he is OVER it, I mean COME ON. These characters are not messing around!!! And that the actors can convey so much simply by walking around in-character really displays their ownership of the roles. I cannot wait to see what happens when there no longer is a sea separating Dany from Westeros, when Cersei has unfettered power, and when King Jon (that feels weird to write) basically takes responsibility for defending every living thing, you’re welcome.
Suffice to say, this brief teaser inspired an array of feelings in the Watchers! After having had a couple days to digest it now, what are your thoughts on the promo and the long walk ahead?
4 months? It’s 3 1/2…every day counts!
I liked the trailer and the way the lyrics played on each of the characters. What I find interesting is at the beginning it looks like Jon is in the Winterfell crypts with “…touched by sadness” then Dany is shown with “…sit down next to me”. Could it be foreshadowing that Jon found something in the crypts? In addition, when Jon is shown including when he looks at his father’s chair the only part of the stanza is “in love”. Worthwhile to have captions on when watching. It may just be me, but thought it was interesting aside from Cersei how they were applying the lyrics.
I actually liked the music choice. I thought it was way better than the version of Wicked Games we got for that first season 6 trailer. Everyone looks really great too.
I guess I’m looking forward to some promotional photos and maybe another teaser like this one, though I can’t imagine what theme it might be. I think this teaser we got does a good job of telling us what the focus will be on in season 7.
Jack Bauer 24,
You know, we should savor these days and the little morsels they’re dishing out. Once S7 begins, it’s going to fly by: a mere six weeks from E1 to E7. It’s going to be over before we know it. ??. For me, there’s no better time than three minutes before the start of the first episode of a season.
I’m not drawing any meaning from any of this. The most noteworthy thing is the Dragonstone throne looks pretty awesome. I’ll be excited to see more of that castle and will we finally see a spot on the opening map with a Targaryen sigil? That and whether King’s Landing will have a lion over it now are seriously two of my biggest questions. I would love that. I remember the Targaryen banner being draped over the harpy in Meereen being one of my favorite moments in season four.
On a side note, my wife and I just started the six-season rewatch to lead into the premiere last night and wow, these actors have come a long way. It’s amazing how different they all look. Emilia and Kit still looked like kids. All of the Lannisters were actually blonde. Think of the reunions that will be happening this season! Jon, Bran, and Arya last saw each other in S1E2, and Bran wasn’t even conscious for it.
I loved it!!! Meh on the music, I agree with others on that, but I liked how it was structured, and was suuuuper psyched to see Dany’s new outfit and the Dragonstone throne! It’s Dragonstone (not just an exterior shot or a dungeon!)!!! Where her Targaryen self belongs 🙂 I had followed the spoilers so was expecting Dragonstone in the upcoming season but nice to have it out there now! Cersei is her usual frosty self, and Jon of House gives no fucks as Bex called him is ready to roll! Overall it increased my anticipation for the new season which is what a teaser should do 🙂 (no more raven bs for 7 second…)
Smoke Screen made an interesting observation, that queen C is pitures sat on the throne (possessing it), queen D sits (wanting to possess it) and that king J remains standing ( not concerned with power at all).
Oh that was a GQ mother FUCKER turn right there.
My God Kit looked so good in that promo.
hahaha Bex I love you. Your enthusiasm for Kit Harington may surpass even my own. And jezebel.com concurs.
Jon Snow? More like Jon FUEGO amirite?
I’m #team everyone in this promo my god. So looking forward to Cersei’s chaotic reign, Dany taking claiming the throne at the place of her birth, and Jon continuing to be the most beautiful cinnamon roll ever, too good for that world. The use of that slowed down, eerie version of Sit Down is brilliant. So unexpected but so perfect.
Almost 11 million views on YT.
45 million views on FB.
Is it just me, or could Cersei’s icy breath hint at an alliance with the Night King…
Very true. Countdown clock almost under 100 and we’ll be in double digits until the premiere. Only six weeks between premiere and the finale this year is crazy though. Normally we would be getting Thrones for 10 weeks starting this month. First April without GoT since the show started and it’ll be more than a year between the Season 6 finale and Season 7 premiere. Who knows how long we’ll have to wait for Season 8. I’m thinking Winter 2018.
Gotta say I’m fairly nonplussed by this promo. It didn’t give us anything at all in all honesty, and the song choice was really lame. I know the lyrics gelled pretty well with the character arcs, but that song is considered really cheesy in the UK (has been for about 25 years), so that’s how the whole thing came off to me. I expected something much slicker if I’m honest ?
iridium,
My favorite thing is how Bex refers to him sometimes as “Christopher,” like he’s her boyfriend and might be in trouble.
Sue the Fury,
haha, yes I loved that too. I’ve also seen him exasperatedly called “Kitstopher Marie,” by concerned mothering fans. Never fails to make me cackle.
Ten Bears,
Agreed we are all so hyped for it, it’ll be over in less than 2 months and then we have to wait until September/October to hear anything about them filming again and if we are lucky catching glimpses of them in costume.
http://wikiofthrones.com/7363/season-7-promos-theory-game-of-thrones-taking-place-inside-the-eye-of-a-giant/
GoT takes place in the eye of a giant.
Been seeing a lot of speculation about this.
Perhaps since they are going with the three monarchs that is what the EW cover spread will be when they release it.
So in that quick teaser we got months ago we got second glimpses of Sansa, Arya and Jon, now we’ve got Dany, Cersei and Jon. I wonder if we’ll get any teasers of Bran, Tyrion and Jamie considering they are just as main characters.
Tasty visuals, but I really, really don’t like that music juxtaposed with images from a medieval alternate universe. For me it’s as if they were costumed in polyester jogging suits or something: just utterly inappropriate and distracting.
Jack Bauer 24,
It’s a very old theory. But White Walkers aren’t giants. It’s a blue eye, and so far that’s the only similarity.
Firannion,
I didn’t like the music too. But then I though of everything we know about the upcomming season and decided that it’s going to be very light-weighted – just like this song.
The fandom will complain that GoT has turned into a Disneyish la-la-la, until Cersei’s cold breath will blow all that away. It looks like she didn’t like the music either and that she was quite happy to breath in some sense of reality into this “All sit down in sympathy” fairy-tale.
Sue the Fury,
But sure, the WW can be called giants: they are taller and much stronger than men, the Night King is some sort of clairvoyant, he can enter visions, as we have learned last season, etc. So, he watches and indeed one can say that Westeros lives in his blue eye. Hence, Macumber is his human name and I have already explained why it may come up in the end-game in the previous thread (naming-breaks-the-spell rule, etc.). Sorry for being repetitive, but that’s my new tin-foil theory which is a bit better than Varys-the-Mairmaid theory and I’ll be probably running around with that for a week or two, so just ignore it. 🙂
But anyway, it would be interesting to know, what the community things.
Someone mentioned Daenerys’s new costume:
Yeah I updated the wiki Costume page info with comparison shots:
She’s wearing a female variant of the “old Tagaryen style” which Viserys wore back at her wedding in the first episode – which Clapton said is the “classic Targaryen style from when they were still in power” which Viserys remembers because he’s older.
It’s the one-shoulder short cape thing and everything – even the EMBROIDERY is similar to Viserys, his high collar had that same red fake-dragon-scale embroidery pattern.
http://gameofthrones.wikia.com/wiki/Costumes%3A_King's_Landing#King.27s_Landing_under_the_Targaryens
http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/gameofthrones/images/4/40/S7_Daenerys_teaser_costume.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/287?cb=20170330180259
http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/gameofthrones/images/4/49/Targaryen_shouder_capes.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/640?cb=20170330181118
Jack Bauer 24,
Sue the Fury,
I think it’s obviously a White Walker perhaps even the Night King but the imagery itself is a good call back and makes you remember in S1 Old Nan telling Bran the story about living in a giants eye. Do we even know what became of the fate of Old Nan?
Mel,
Show-wise, the actress Margaret John died and the character disappeared, so I think we’re supposed to assume that Old Nan died when the Ironmen took Winterfell, like so many other people there did. In the books, Nan was a prisoner after they took Winterfell, but she hasn’t really been a presence for quite a while so I’m not sure she’s even alive anymore.
The Dragon Demands,
Oh those sites are great to get some close ups and descriptions, thanks for that (and ya know, Viserys may have been a spoiled entitled brat, but he sure was nice looking)
Nan didn’t actually tell Bran that story. She was telling him the story of the Long Night when Robb interrupted and said she once told him the story of Macumber the blue-eyed giant when he was a boy.
By the way, I just discovered there is a new Amazon pilot starring Richard Madden called “Oasis” about some strange happenings in an off-earth colony in which he plays an ecumenical minister called by the colony founder to give spiritual guidance. Just watched it a few hours ago. Pretty interesting setup, but remembering how this worked with Man in the High Castle, it could be a while before they film any more episodes if they decide to turn this into a full season.
I’m excited to see him getting quality work, though! When his role ended, I thought he seemed like he had one of the better shots at staying in the mainstream of the young Game of Thrones actors. Kit and Emilia and Sophie have the classic looks, but Richard struck me as a much more natural actor. The others have definitely grown into the roles and become more accomplished as the seasons wore on, but he and Alfie Allen stood out early as holding their own among the older, more seasoned cast.
Mel,
IIRC Joffrey points out her head on a stake to Sansa
ash,
I think it was her Septa… Old Nan never left Winterfell.
No, he does not. That was Septa Mordane, who accompanied Sansa and Arya to King’s Landing. Old Nan stayed behind in Winterfell, taking care of Bran and Rickon… and the actress died. If we were to be compelled to rationalize it in-universe, we could assume the character died as well, either between season one and two or when Ramsay burned Winterfell to the ground.
I love when they release the first promotional photos because, besides giving us a glimpse of the upcoming season, we get at least a week’s worth of speculating out of it. And, for me, the speculation is half the fun of GOT.
Exactly. The ride is almost over and that’s why this year I’m learning to appreciate every little teaser, promo, and poster we get.
I hope so. Last year I was denied any Kit magazine covers in the lead up to the season, so this year I’m really looking forward to seeing his glorious mug all over the promotional material. And I think the 3 monarchs theme would be a great way promote the season. Sucks to be fans of other characters, though.
It’s easy to forget, isn’t it? Before a proper trailer, we usually get a number of promotional photos. It’s always fun to go over them with a magnifying glass!
BunBunStark,
Luka Nieto,
I remember how much everyone was speculating over that promotional photo last season of Bran on a horse. That was a good choice and only when the season wrapped up did I realize HBO released a picture from the season finale lol. And I think nobody figured that out when the photo was first published.
Flayed Potatoes,
There is this site which is usually the first to publish the promo pics of GOT, (farfaraway or something like that, wasn’t it?) . I think they correctly identified the episodes to which the pics belonged, before those episodes aired. Iirc, they had classified that Bran photo as belonging to episode 10 long before the finale aired.
ghost of winterfell,
Yeah you’re right. People clocked that one pretty early on- HBO also has a habit of leaving episode numbers in the metadata of their official photos.
I think Game of Thrones Season 8 will premier…
ghost of winterfell,
I didn’t know the site did that. To be honest I don’t check what titles HBO gives to the pictures too, so the fact that they picked a shot from 610 surprised me.
Yes! That’s how people were able to figure out which episodes the promo pics belonged to so soon. Now I remember all the discussion caused especially by the one of Melisandre leaving Castle Black in ep 5, because the edge of Sansa’s cloak could be seen in that as well as what looked like Longclaw (which later turned out to be a random dude on horseback with a random sword)!
Flayed Potatoes,
I only knew about the site and the photos because of all the discussion that happened here tbh.
I think that’s a little early for Season 8 premiere. I’m assuming the production schedule will be the same as Season 7, since they want to film later in the Winter and Season 8 will have more CGI/post production than any other season.
Haha I remember all the speculation about that Melisandre pic! Weren’t people saying Sansa looked pregnant in one of her promo pics?
Most of the songs that HBO’s promotional team has used in Game of Thrones trailers over the years have been excellent – I’ve kept a kind of mini-playlist of them over the years. “Seven Devils” by Florence and the Machine and “Feral Love” by Chelsea Wolfe Have become favorites, and of course I already loved David Bowie’s “Heroes”. “Sit Down” probably isn’t going to rack up a lot of listens in my iTunes library, but it does work very well for this particular promo and the way the lyrics are matched with certain images. Pairing the “Those who feel they’re touched by madness” line with Cersei was a particularly nice touch.
All in all, I thought this a very effective teaser – certainly one of the best that doesn’t feature footage from the upcoming season. Not many shows could make three characters walking through darkened halls into something this compelling, but Game of Thrones can – it helps that Jon, Dany, and Cersei all look regal as hell. Westeros has never been blessed with a finer or more stylish crop of monarchs.
Also, Bex’s reaction to the teaser – particularly Jon’s initial appearance – was delightful.
Adam,
There’s a show where the core sales pitch can be boiled down to Robb Stark: Space Priest? Yes, I will watch that.
I agree that Richard Madden shouldn’t be overlooked when we’re discussing the roster of great young actors that Game of Thrones put on the map. He was stellar as Robb – obviously his death was a critical and unavoidable moment for the story, but I still miss the Young Wolf and OG King in the North. Madden has worked steadily since departing GOT, but he hasn’t quite broken out to the extent that some of his co-stars have. He’s been in a couple of shows that I haven’t yet watched (Klondike on Discovery and Medici: Masters of Florence on Netflix), and I think he’s been doing a good bit of theater as well.
By far the biggest thing Madden’s done since departing the show is his role as the Prince in the live-action version of Cinderella opposite the lovely Lily James – which I thought was excellent, by the way (funnily enough, Madden’s character in that movie is named Kit, which – whether it was deliberate or not – was a great nod for GOT fans). Hopefully this Amazon pilot, if it goes to series, will give him another much-deserved boost.
That was wild. I also remember us freaking out over that Edd photo before episode 4 came out. We identified the sleeve of the person sitting next to him as being Jon and figured out he was wearing a Stark uniform lol.
And that one promo photo of Brienne where we all thought was taken at Castle Black, but we later found out it was at the Mole’s Town brothel. People were going crazy because her armor had dents in it too haha.
Those were some dark times lol. I think it had to do with how her dress was designed and the pose.
I also remember that picture with Davos looking at some smoke and people thought it was Jon’s funeral pyre.
With all the talk we usually get about the finer/hidden details, I can’t believe more people aren’t magnifying and examining the image of the wall in the Night King’s eye. There’s no question that it’s the wall, indicating that the Night King will set eyes on the wall this season.
For those who are having a hard time seeing it, it doesn’t appear until about 1:13 during the pan out. It’s on the right side of the pupil, where you’ll see a white spot appear that almost looks like the sun shining on a small piece of the wall.
People wishing for footage from the season 3 months out
Boggles my mind lol
Loved the teaser so much!!!! I’m so excited
Adam,
Not that I don’t agree with the fact that Richard and Alfie could hold their own from the very start – but they were a lot more experienced than say Kit and Emilia, especially in TV. But I adore Richard, and I hope Oasis does well, he was very good in Medici: Masters of Florens.
Dee Stark,
I wouldn’t mind if there wasn’t any Game of Thrones season 7 promos with scenes from Season 7… That way season 7 will all be a surprise..
I hope HBO continues to promote season 7 with similar style teasers like the one we’ll posting about.
Flayed Potatoes,
Those were honestly some wild times lol.The Sansa is pregnant one was the most annoying but the most wild time for tinfoil was the week between ep.7 and ep.8 with the Arya plot.People went crazy with the theories.And knowing the leaks I was like please chill out a bit haha.
Give in the footage and the song, I think, it’s all about alliances and who would give up her/his claim to the throne and sit with other monarchs to face the threat.
firstone,
I actually agree with you 100 percent !!!! But I’m sure they won’t do that ?
With so little episodes and only major characters left I’m worried how much a trailer would give away. Nevertheless I probably won’t watch the trailer this year
Not thrilled with this morsel from HBO. Sorry guys, just wasn’t. However when I saw that puff of cold air come from Cersei, first thing I thought was “cold air, colder words” she’s going to be a super frosty bitch. But if the foreshadowing is true at all, it won’t do her any good, because snow (ahem) will fall on the throne room and shadows of dragons will block out the sun. So either Danny moves the capital to dragon stone or Jon snow takes the throne
Dee Stark,
You won’t even watch the trailer? Lol I admire your restraint since I have none when it comes to GOT ?
Jack Bauer 24,
Iirc even Sophie was asked about that, poor girl..
Welcome Home Queen Daenerys Targaryen
The Unsullied fighters are not slaves anymore… It is time for the Unsullied to change their Unsullied battle armor to new Targaryen battle armor. The Unsullied voluntarily fight for Queen Daenerys. They should have their own unique armor.
I enjoyed the promo although it took me a couple of watches to start liking the music.
Dee Stark,
That requires a lot of strength of will, Dee!! I’m afraid I’m not strong are you are… 🙂
ghost of winterfell,
Yes, she was. Oh well, at least she laughed about it…
Liked this teaser, we get the setup of the three rulers, and a reminder at the end of the white walkers and the war to come.
Qick question with trailers starting to come out, is there any chance watchers on the wall will do a episode title speculation for season seven like previous seasons?
Ok so I think they picked sit down as a two edged sword
Those who feel the breath of sadness sit down next to me
JON
Those who find they are touched by madness sit down next to me
DANY
Those how find themselves ridiculous sit down next to me
CERSEI ( she’s not admitting it)
The chorus is the weakest part of the song but gave them a strong marketing line thrones wise!!!!
I love James been to watch them loads of times so them joining a little bit of our world made me happy
http://images.sudouest.fr/2016/10/20/5809f83166a4bdb67a22aba8/default/1000/geologues-et-cineastes-sont-fascines-par-l-epaisse-serie-de-roches-sedimentaires-marines-tres-caracteristique-de-cette-frange-littorale.jpg
http://www.nationalgeographic.com/photography/photo-of-the-day/2017/01/rocks-basque-spain/
I’m not sure if this is ok but I’m doing it anyway… for those fans specially ladys who love this show, it’s characters and sets. Our beloved Dany celebrated her 30th birthday in a castle/hotel close to the set of Gaztelugatxe
SPOILERS
https://twitter.com/pap4u/status/792016008882118656
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cv3N1jtWgAAuQzm.jpg
https://www.instagram.com/p/BMM0Ww5FA_7/
http://www.serveur-studio-trudel.com/castilloarteaga/vv/
http://castillodearteaga.com/nuestras-habitaciones/?lang=en
http://euskalpmdeushd-vh.akamaihd.net/multimediahd/videos/2016/10/31/2059069/20161031_10311122_0009404266_002_001_GAZTELUGATXE.mp4
https://myspanishinspain.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/pais_vasco_san_juan_gaztelugatxe.jpg
ghost of winterfell,
I’m going to try not to!!!!! ?
Interesting, Comiccon starts July 20 this year, 4 days after premiere , so has any one heard will they be at Comicon?
I have a feeling not, tho could be at another Con but have seen nothing , so far.
iridium,
haha i agree
that link is so funny. love how everyone is obsessed with my jon. haha
Jack Bauer 24,
Why? that makes no sense lol
I think that the only reason we got the delay is to delay shooting. so if they use the same schedule they always do, just start in September, they should be able to get season 8 out a year from season 7.
Just noticed that Dany is wearing a costume that does not appear in any of the sneaky peeks from season 7 production.
A Dornish Tyrell,
its definitely going to be hard!!!
Please don’t call James Britpop, they were never Britpop, that came much later, Madchester if you must but they weren’t really that either.
Sorry they were my first gig. I loved them and was thrilled to hear this used (rather than the full jangly guitar version) I did wonder if they’d leave in the Those who find themselves ridiculous line in but am glad they didn’t, though had thought it would be Jon if anyone who found themselves ridiculous!
I agree 100% – Season 8 is only 6 episodes and they are being written right now. I wouldn’t be surprised if a season 8 flashback scene has already been filmed.
If Howland Reed doesn’t have a scene in Season 7 I think he will in the Season 8 premier.
Molestown bastard,
Hi Moley *waves*, not seen you around for a bit. Oh hang on I wasn’t supposed to call you that was I? Hi Bastard *still waving* is that better? 😉 I used to go to loads of gigs around the time that was out and saw them a few times. Yay for 80s/90s indie! I seem to remember they deliberately played it right at the beginning of their set to get it out of the way. It sounds odd for GoT, maybe because the songs they’ve used previously tended to be really slow, but the words fit nicely.
As a big fan of silver jewellery I gotta give a shout out to Dany’s awesome three headed dragon brooch/clasp thingy on her right shoulder. When I win the lottery* I’m going to employ some of the costumes and production guys from GoT to make me amazing outfits and furniture/decorations/household items etc. Channel my inner Loras; pre-Sparrows he always looked red carpet-ready! 😀
* Shush don’t spoil my dreams meanies. One in 571 squillion is do-able!
A Dornish Tyrell,
Oh – I thought they were the same people. Ok, never mind
Game of Thrones, Star Wars and F-bombs. I think I love you, Bex. lol
Molestown bastard,
Are you implying that Dany is more mad than Cersei,i swear i’m not the biggest Dany fan but the ridiculousness of her haters is outstanding . No proof whatsoever of her being mad like her father but they are still going on with this theory,i’m going to enjoy watching you be disappointed
Jared,
Oh I had quite forgotten that. He was very good in that. Quite good adaptation (hee, it used to be that animation was used to adapt a book or story; now live action is adapting from animation! …)
I hope we get dany having scenes at the westeros painted table and not spend all her scenes in the throne room while she is at dragonstone ..I guess the very first scene dany in dragonstone will be there or perfect way to end the first episode dany and tyrion looking over the table ..
Dany’s costumes this season will be talking point and I am sure cersei’s too will be
Molestown bastard,
Finally ..I was waiting when someone will come up with this one
Well, we all know that two out of the three can play well with others. One most definitely cannot ???
July can’t come fast enough ?
I keep a playlist, too, with my own finds added. I am absolutely DYING for them to make a promo about the Starks using the song “Wolves” by Down Like Silver. I don’t think I’ve ever heard a more appropriate song for GOT.
Not sure if this has been mentioned, but I saw someone online comment that it looked like a reflection of the wall in the WW’s eye at the end of the promo.
firstone,
I figure they’ve got to bring in Howland Reed at some point for some reason. Or else, why bother having the 3ER go tripping back in time with Bran to the Tower of Joy and point out “that’s Howland Reed, Meera and Jojen’s father” ?
Also, I’ve got to assume that it must be important for Howland Reed to show up in person to share whatever secrets he’s been keeping all these years, or because only he can verify the authenticity of certain evidence. Otherwise, they could simply have Bran hop into the deLorean – I mean plug into the weirwood tree – and travel back in time to witness events for himself; or have Jon go spelunking in the Winterfell crypts and find something there. (There have been lots of hints that something’s down there, and lots of theories about what it might be. I hope there’s a payoff.)
Since I can’t see how “A Dream of Spring” will ever be published*, all of the long-anticipated revelations will have to be included in the 13 remaining TV episodes.
* PS Personally, I believe Martin shouldn’t have to write another page. He should be able to rest on his laurels, and spend his remaining years watching Jets games and attending conventions. After 26 years, he must be tired of ASOIAF. It seems like he’d rather do anything and everything else but finish the books. He shouldn’t have to. It must be sheer drudgery.
Worse, at this juncture now that the show has passed the books and will conclude next year, he’s essentially writing a novelization of a TV show. That must be creative hell for a writer.
Sorry for veering off topic. I just feel bad for the guy.
Ten Bears,
Perhaps George R.R. Martin should go the route of those ‘Choose Your Own Adventure’ books that allow you to flip to a certain page in order to get a different ending. Almost like a mad-libs for GoT readers. That way no one can bitch about the ending since each reader chooses which path to take 🙂 And George R.R. Martin wouldnt have to be burdened with coming up with one specific ending.
Well put. I agree, why would they have gone to such effort to show him, and also have Jojen and Meera mention him several times, if they weren’t going to continue the story with him? I’d love to see him, anyway. Both Jojen and Meera are decent, loyal, loving people, a rarity in that world, and I’d like to see a little more of the man who raised them.
Mr Derp,
Well, as long as we’re veering off on this tangent about GRRM’s purgatory…
In a way, he’s a victim of his own success and the unprecedented success of the TV show. Some people just won’t let up on bashing “the fat man.” But the guy is what, 68 years old? He started writing the books in 1991 I think — so when he was 42.
I happened to read through some of his blog entries from around 2010 after HBO had greenlit the show and he was involved in casting actors to play his characters. His enthusiasm and excitement was palpable. He’d pose riddles to his readers to guess the identity of actors and actresses as soon as they’d signed on.
Nowadays, that excitement is gone. When he mentions ASOIAF, it’s often to express his regret for not being able to complete TWOW, or to make general observations like it seems that the harder he works, the further behind he gets.
I have not read the books yet. I’m looking forward to doing so once the show concludes. I really don’t mind if the books are “incomplete” or that I’ll already know the ending. (“The Silence of the Lambs” was a great movie. Watching it didn’t detract from reading the book, which was even better than the film.)
I sense that he’s lost his muse (or his mojo). If he’s not inspired to write the books anymore, I doubt they’ll be much fun to read. He’s busied himself doing other things – everything but finishing the book. It can’t be fun, approaching 70, to have all that pressure to write a novel while lacking the creative spark to accomplish it. (What’s that old song? “The Thrill is Gone”?)
I say let him off the hook. He should be able to take a victory lap. After writing books that have earned him the unofficial title of “this generation’s Tolkien”, to have angry fans breathing down his neck demanding another book just doesn’t seem fair.
I have an older brother who played ’60’s records over and over when I was little. (He still does.) He especially loves The Turtles. Every year he takes me to see them when they’re in town. They play all of their ’60s hits, and they still sound great.
I’ve never heard anyone in the audience boo them and yell out “F-ck you! You’re a bunch of hacks! Where’s the next album?”
It’s been 40 years, goddammit!”
I apologize for rambling on about this. (I was going to make a comparison to Brian Wilson cracking under the pressure to finish his follow-up to “Pet Sounds”, but I’ll stop here.)
Cersie is as crazy as the Mad King.
Lulus Mum,
Hey lulus mum how you keeping ( waves back) ?
Still here just trying to avoid the spoilers this year ( bit unsuccessful lol)
I went to the v festival one year to see oasis and they duly did not turn up so there’s about 10’000 gutted people in a sun drenched field and on come James!!!! Tim booth comes on stage sucked into a helium balloon and sang wonderwall!!!! He cheered every single person there up that day lol
DragonBallfan,
The implication of Dany being mad comes up a few times in the books I’m not a big purest or anything but seem to remember both jorah and ser barristan talking her though the supposed Targ madness/curse
In the show she burned down a dothraki temple killed loads of people , sacked and burned a city (Astopoor) and crucified a whole bunch of dudes so yeah I’d say she is bit mad
I don’t hate Dany ( she’s hot) but I just want Jon to win lol
dragonbringer,
Sorry I had a few beers last night lol
DragonBallfan,
The implication of Dany being mad comes up a few times in the books I’m not a big purest or anything but seem to remember both jorah and ser barristan talking her though the supposed Targ madness/curse
In the show burned down a dothraki temple killed loads of people , sacked and burned a city (Astopoor) and crucified a whole bunch of dudes so yeah I’d say she is bit mad
I don’t hate Dany ( she’s hot) but I just want Jon to win lol
Molestown bastard,
In the books jorah and barristan keep saying how she is like Rhaegar not aerys ..
We also have her inner thoughts which show us she is not hungry for power or cruel or sadistic..
Yes she did all that and yet the show runners themselves said she is not mad nor cruel nor sadistic ..
He will win but to have him win you don’t want to be having others as mad …
Molestown bastard,
Jon as as much potential to become a mad king as Dany or even more: 1) he is highly ambitious, but his ambtion is strongly supressed – we all know that does no good; 2) Jon has the same Targarian blood and is the Mad King’s grand-son; 3) he hanged the mutinees including the underaged Olly he had a personal connection with – that was much more cruel than crucifying a hundred and a half of slavemasters Dany never new; 4) Jon is absolutely focused on the WW, which may overreact in case of any disagreement, even a minor one; etc. In short, Jon is under very intense stress and that may drive him out of his mind – just like any other man or woman under similar circumstances. And the most important thing: Jon has never had power – even now his power is rescricted by many factors, which is good for him, because power corrups. But given an absolute power or at least entitlement he may become as vulnerable to corruption as anyone else, because absolute power corrupts absolutely.
I guess, paranoia is a professional disease/risk of all the leaders and rulers.
Molestown bastard,
All ok here thanks, hope it’s the same for you! We have been truly blessed with plentiful spoilers at a very early stage this year and lots of the regulars seem to be in hiding as they just want vague hints rather than major plot points. Take your inspiration from Dee who has, with careful vetting and iron willpower, managed to avoid them for all the time she’s been on here. She should run a professional spoiler avoiding course. And even if you become aware of stuff, we don’t have any context for a lot of it, so still plenty to speculate on.
Now I’m thinking what if they’d used a helium assisted version of Sit Down for the trailer. Or what if House Gallagher were in the story, they’d spend the whole time arguing with everyone, including themselves 😀
firstone,
I would love it if that theory were true. But I’m afraid it’s not…
I must respectfully disagree. First, the mutineers killed him, in a time when the punishment for murder was hanging. Second, there was no such concept as “underage” during the historical period in which ASoIaF is set; one was a child or one was an adult, and childhood lasted for a very short time. The very idea of “adolescence,” what we think of as the years of maturation immediately following puberty, is a modern construct dating only to the 19th century. In the world of ASoIaF, Olly was an adult. There was nothing cruel about Jon’s actions.
Wolfish,
Totally agree – Was he influenced by those around him? Probably – but it was quite obvious that not only was Olly not sorry, but he’d do it again if given half a chance. Jon had no choice.
Inga,
Um, yea, he actually did have power as Lord Commander of the Night’s Watch, but he used his power for good, so I think Jon has a much clearer perspective than most on what it means to be a good ruler. He uses power to do good for others whereas most others only use power to do good for themselves. In my opinion, he is in no way susceptible to becoming a mad king type.
I agree with the others that what Jon did to Olly was in no way cruel or should be seen as such. Olly freaking killed him for crying out loud. Even when Olly was up on the gallows it looked like Jon waited an extra moment to see if Olly was sorry…perhaps to open the door for a reprieve, but obviously Olly wasn’t interested in that. Jon did everything within reason, in my opinion.
Wolfish,
ash,
Mr Derp,
Relax, I was just trolling (and defending Dany). As a historian I am perfectly aware that in the middle ages boys were treated (and acted) like men from the age of 11 and not only in the middle ages, BTW. However, hanging Olly was cruel firts of all to Jon himself and he regreted that, because he loved the boy. And though Jon had no other choice, I guess in the future he might become unwilling to hang or even punish anyone which may be both good and bad depending on the circumstances. We’ll see.
As for Jon actually having power, he was the Lord Commander for a very short time, then he was just a commander, but when he told Mel not to bring him back, what did she answered? “I’ll have to try.” So, Jon’s power is and probably will always be very far from absolute: there will be natural checks and balances and most probably Jon won’t survive the Battle for Dawn. So, in his case the risk of paranoia is close to zero. In Dany’s case it may be a bit higher, but still not more than like 0.00001%, because she is pretty much aware of this risk and consciously seeks for people, who could stop her from wrongdoings, instead of encouraging them – that’s why she made Tyrion her hand after he passed the test and that’s why she broke with Daario.
Lulus Mum,
Liam and Noel would be striaght to the wall if I had my way unless they reform immediately lol
I agree with you about Dee she is one dedicated non spoiler girl fair play to her!!!!
I read some of Lukas early Spanish location stuff and after a certain massive spoiler I said enough is enough it’s not so fun reading through the comments section. With everything covered but we r getting near the endgame now and I want to enjoy the show season 1 style
Inga,
I love Dany too Inga I was just a little bit drunk on Sunday and tried to fit the main protagonists into the song lyrics
Still think Dany may end up going stir crazy at the end though lol
Inga,
To be honest you don’t even need to be a Targaryen to be paranoid or mad, they just got the most attention because they had the most power just look at Joffrey and Ramsay not Targs but some of the worst people on the show.
I don’t for one second think Dany would go mad, she may do problematic things but she cares way too much. People like Ramsay, Joffrey, Aerys, even Cersei on some accounts hurt people out of enjoyment and that is the sign of madness not Dany’s actions. You are right though about it being better for her leaving Daario, he didn’t understand her and tried to encourage her to be a butcher when she was anything but, definitely a bad influence on her. She always made better decision when she didn’t have a bunch of fighters advise her no offence to them but Jorah and Tyrion were always the better advisor’s for her.
Hahaha I should!
Molestown bastard,
I couldn’t have been more clueless when I first saw GoT. Had just heard people praising it but didn’t know anything at all about the story. Skimmed through one episode and liked it so watched a second, which I had trouble following as it seemed quite a leap from the previous one and I was floundering a bit on what was happening and who everyone was. It was only after seeing a third I discovered they were showing series 1 and 2 concurrently and what I actually saw was something like S1 ep4 followed by S2 ep5, then back to S1 ep5. A ten episode leap makes things a lot harder to follow! 🙁
Lulus Mum,
I was also clueless when I first watched GoT; my daughter and one of her friends had really gotten into it, and insisted that I’d be hooked after watching one episode. Annnnnd… the first episode I ever watched was S1, Ep9. You can imagine the commotion in the house afterwards. “WHY THE HELL DID YOU JUST MAKE ME WATCH SEAN BEAN GET BEHEADED? [long pause] Fine, I’ll watch it from the beginning.”
And then I read all the books between S1 and S2.
Lulus Mum,
I did the same thing recently with the crown!!!
Watched two episodes enjoyed it then realised the next day I’d watched episodes 4 and 5 so I had to start again lol