Game of Thrones Season Seven Premiere Date Revealed along with Teaser Trailer!

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There have been rumors. There have been assumptions. There was even a semi-official approximation. The premiere date for the seventh season of Game of Thrones has been a subject of much speculation, but today, at last, HBO revealed it… sort of. Instead of doing it outright, HBO left it for us, the fans, to quite literally uncover the premiere date.

Earlier today, HBO announced an interactive Facebook event, in which fans would be brought into a live feed of the ice and fire themed teaser poster brought to life. The dragonfire (well, probably a flamethrower, let’s get real) did its job, powered by the strength of hundreds of thousands of fans with nothing better to do than typing “FIRE” while we watched ice melt and Isaac Hempstead-Wright, Lena Headey, Gwendoline Christie, Alfie Allen, Nikolaj Coster-Waldau and Liam Cunningham encouraged us.

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It’s doubtful the fan participation actually had much to do with the process, there were serious technical hiccups, and the reception seemed to be pretty negative in general… But this wouldn’t be the first time a Game of Thrones viral campaign fails to impress. Nevertheless, in the end, the premiere date was uncovered, after an hour:

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The first episode of the seventh season will premiere on July 16th. We can also confirm the show will air first on HBO at its usual timeslot: 9:00 to 10:00 p.m. ET/PT.

This matches up with Liam Cunningham’s suggestion we would have to wait until July. It may seem like a long time, but at this point it’s just four months away. Now, all that’s left for us to do is wait — Not only for the new season but for a trailer, which may be right around the corner: With filming wrapped up and the premiere approaching fast, we should get a proper trailer sooner rather than later. The premiere date reveal was accompanied by a teaser trailer, but it mostly included audio from previous seasons:

Pay attention, however, to Jon’s dire warning from season seven: “The same thing is coming for all of us. There is only one war that matters: The Great War. And it is here.”

Stay tuned for more in the coming weeks!

212 Comments

  1. I got here just in time for the announcement. It’s like I’m the late Lord Frey or something.

  2. It took the length of an episode for the ice to melt. I love how they eventually just ran the flamethrowers non-stop after the video buffered twice. Oh well… JULY 16TH!!!

  3. I am so THRILLED at this new marketing. I’m so tired of the hall of faces stuff for S6. Bring on the Song of Ice and Fire!

  4. July the 16th! My exams and my third LOST watch will be already over by then so I will be able to completely focus on GoT! So I have plenty of time to finish my rewatch. I’m currently really slow… watching one episode or maybe two a week.

  5. 129 days doesn’t sound like too long I guess… That’s mid-Summer though… We’ll get there. 🙂

  6. The Great War. I like it. And I love that my boy, Jon, got the final line in the teaser. Squeeeee!!!

  7. Well well well, a blue dragon eye. Has one of Daenerys’ dragons blue eyes? Or… ICE DRAGON???

  8. At least now I know. I’ll watch 3 episodes, then be away for 12 days, with little chance to watch anything… I can hardly hope for decent internet. Oh well! I will have the sea!

  9. selena:
    the little teaser at the end was worth all of that

    Yes, it was.

    Ryan Neuner:
    It took the length of an episode for the ice to melt. I love how they eventually just ran the flamethrowers non-stop after the video buffered twice.

    It was pretty funny there at the end with the non-stop flames. It was like somebody finally got a clue.

    Dolorous Bread:
    I am so THRILLED at this new marketing. I’m so tired of the hall of faces stuff for S6. Bring on the Song of Ice and Fire!

    I totally agree. Ice and Fire is where it’s at!! I found the Hall of Faces stuff a dud. And in the end it really wasn’t very relevant to the season.

  10. I went from staring at a giraffe standing still, to a block of ice melting, back to giraffe. This is my life now.

    Wish it’d been my birthday on July 9, but the 16th is just dandy!!! ?

  11. Lord Parramandas: I’m currently really slow… watching one episode or maybe two a week.

    Just be ready on July 16, Lord P. From what I see as to how eager everyone is to comment even on a vague poster, imho everyone will be here in droves to comment on the first episode.

  12. Rafael,

    Agreed. I think Jon’s line is new dialogue. I’m 90% sure I’ve never heard him say it in the show… and I’ve rewatched the series countless times.

  13. Thronetender,

    Sure. Like I said, it’s my third LOST watch (and the Memory Lanes I write for each episode) that’s slowing me down. I have 45 episodes left and I will be surely finished by then. As for GoT, I’m currently on episode 8 but I’m sure when I get past S1, I will speed up (still one episode a day though). S1 is simply not that interesting for me on a rewatch.

    And sure, I will be back with my reviews.

  14. Hype !

    I love that teaser trailer.

    The good thing with the fact that it’s airing in July is that I’ll be able to watch some of the episodes with my 70 year old mum who lives 1,200 km away and who became a big fan last September when she started watching (following my advice and the main family trees I printed for her so she didn’t get lost too much) the first six seasons and was done in like a couple weeks. lol

  15. Repsaj,

    I think that was referring to the White Walker’s blue eyes given the last shot of the teaser. I could be wrong though.

  16. “I’ll kill every Targaryen I can get my hands on.” A repeat of Robert’s threat means that Bran will probably be telling Jon about his true parentage. Maybe some of the older Lords will be telling Jon and reminiscing among themselves just how adamant Robert was about wiping out Targaryens. This might lead to a deeper understanding of why Ned lied to everyone at the expense of his own honor, and perhaps make them even more determined to back Jon.

  17. What a crazy day. I like the teaser. The premiere date, I’d prefer earlier but I can live with it.

    The ice block can go fuck itself. 😀

  18. I was so preoccupied with what was being said in the teaser that I just noticed that the Tyrell rose is engulfed in wildfire. That’s a nice, but sad, detail. Poor Tyrells.

  19. Sue the Fury:

    The ice block can go fuck itself.

    Yes. Yes it can.

    Now that we’ve gotten a teaser poster, a teaser trailer, and the premiere date, I don’t think there’s anything else that they can possibly reveal during SXSW. Oh well.

  20. I live in Australia so the time line was wrong so me to watch it live, is there somewhere I can see what the cast had to say in the video?
    Very creative HBO, I love the teaser and I enjoyed hearing from characters who are long dead, Even though Dany doesn’t know about the White Walkers I liked how her and Jon were basically saying how there were more important things than the houses in Westeros, that White Walker eye at the end was super creepy.

  21. Perhaps this how the Wall will finally come down. Someone standing there with a flamethrower trying to burn a hole in the Wall ever so slowly

  22. DaphNenya:
    Hype !

    I love that teaser trailer.

    The good thing with the fact that it’s airing in July is that I’ll be able to watch some of the episodes with my 70 year old mum who lives 1,200 km away and who became a big fan last September when she started watching (following my advice and the main family trees I printed for her so she didn’t get lost too much) the first six seasons and was done in like a couple weeks. lol

    I love this! ?

    Yeah the ice block would seem to show that the Wall will be standing there looking at its watch (Watch?) and giggling while flames try to melt it for 40000 years.

  23. With both the poster (the Wall) and this reveal (the melting of the Wall), will the Wall come tumbling down sooner than we think?

  24. I commend them for their attempts to make these things special and create hype, even if they don’t work out as well as intended. It was effective in creating excitement initially. More than just spitting out the date randomly anyway.

    That dragon light show on buildings promo they did before ended up rather lame too, but they tried.

  25. DaphNenya: The good thing with the fact that it’s airing in July is that I’ll be able to watch some of the episodes with my 70 year old mum who lives 1,200 km away and who became a big fan last September when she started watching (following my advice and the main family trees I printed for her so she didn’t get lost too much) the first six seasons and was done in like a couple weeks. lol

    DaphNenya,

    Nice. I did the same thing for my Dad. I printed out family trees, gave him the link to an interactive map of Westeros/Essos, etc., but he is still completely lost when he watches the show. He’s the kind of guy you’d see in the movie theater whispering “Wait, I thought he was with those guys”. I’m still trying to get him to make sense out of it.

  26. Loved the teaser (except the “wheel-speech” bit. That was a lame dialogue I would rather never hear again in my life). Wicked! The Others are coming!

  27. Clob,

    Too bad our grammar guru Stannis is not available to settle this dispute.

    I think you are correct though

  28. Sue the Fury,

    WORD. I’m still laughing in disbelief about the fact I spent my entire lunch hour glued to my computer screen watching a glitchy block of ice be melted down at such an excruciatingly slow pace… to reveal a freaking date! What my coworkers must have thought walking by my cubicle? Haha. Hello, my name is Danielle and I’m a GoT addict. 🙂 The teaser though was a pleasant surprise after all that waiting!

  29. Oh yah this is what we have been waiting for. Teasers, Premier Dates, Posters. Couldnt have epected so much in one day. Getting pumped for GoT ??

  30. blahblah:
    The same thing is coming for all of us- that’s Liam Cunningham or Ser Davos, not Jon.

    No, it’s not. It’s Jon. Quite clearly, too.

  31. Luka Nieto,

    Actually, in the teaser video posted on the official HBO GOT Facebook page, they have the teaser closed captioned- and they have it as Ned Stark saying, “same thing is coming for all of us”- and then the rest of the dialogue is credited to Jon Snow.

    It sounds like Jon to me though, not Ned. I cannot recall Ned ever saying anything like that on the show. Oh, HBO….

  32. Mr Derp:
    Perhaps this how the Wall will finally come down.Someone standing there with a flamethrower trying to burn a hole in the Wall ever so slowly

    So that’s where headless Stannis has been hiding all this time.

  33. Danielle Stark,

    I’m with you in that I can’t recall Ned ever saying that and I’m 100% sure that it’s Kit’s voice. But Jon is trying to emulate Ned, at least he’s got the voice right if even HBO can’t differentiate, lol

  34. Flayed Potatoes: So that’s where headless Stannis has been hiding all this time.

    Flayed Potatoes,

    Yup! And because he lost his head, he’s facing the wrong friggin direction with that blowtorch and doesn’t even know it. No wonder the Wall hasn’t crumbled yet

  35. Yaaaaaaaaaaa

    I’m soooooo effing hyped

    I haven’t watched the teaser but I’m super excited to watch it when I get home

  36. Did anyone else just kinda scream “the dragon has three heads” at the first 10 seconds of this teaser?

  37. Cool teaser. Now it’s time to honor one of our oldest traditions, isn’t it? Start the countdown! 😀

  38. so listening to that Jon line again..it is two parts.. “The same thing is coming for all of us.” sounds like he says it in the open..maybe rallying troops or trying to convince people to lsiten?
    and “There is only one war that matters: The Great War. And it is here” is said indoors(or at least a more enclosed space), in a much different setting..talking to someone one on one maybe?

  39. Why don’t people like the break the wheel speech, it clearly show that Dany cares about the common people and is aware how the games of the noble families affect them and how she is willing to even lower her own house’s standing to make the world better for them. To me it shows that she isn’t too selfish and wants to make life better for others. Yeah she is idealistic and all but she is also young and doesn’t have much experience in politics so it is understandable but her heart is in the right place.

  40. “The same thing is coming for all of us” is Sean Bean voice aka Ned Stark and the last part is Jon snow!

  41. Charlie Stark:
    “The same thing is coming for all of us” is Sean Bean voice aka Ned Stark and the last part is Jon snow!

    when did Ned say that though? i think its jon.. just said at a different time and place then the last part

  42. Violator,

    Same for me, that’s how we do the date in Australia

    Masspsychosis,

    I agree, I love that speech it also tells a lot about Dany that she includes her own house in it, that it’s not her house that she fights for and her own house is just as guilty as the others. When I first heard that speech I envisioned her destroying the Iron Throne, let’s be honest no matter who takes the Iron Throne either their generation, or the one after, or the one after that will continue the war for the Iron Throne unless the one who sits on the Iron Throne is immortal (Night King) peace will never be assured, it a vicious cycle and the only way the break that cycle, that wheel is to break the Iron Throne.

  43. Was that the Mad King’s voice saying “Burn them all”? Did we ever hear his actual voice in the show?

  44. For a teaser trailer, that was really well done. There was no new footage (or any footage), no new dialogue (except for Jon’s), and, yet, judging by the online reactions, it did what it was supposed to do: ramp up the HYPE. Unlike the Hall of Faces teaser from last year, which was received with a bunch of “WTF’s” and “that’s it?!”, most folks seem to love this teaser.

    I love the use of the voiceovers and the corresponding house sigil (“bring me his head” as the direwolf is shown), and how those sigils crumble as the real enemy is revealed. My only gripe is if they had to include Cersei being proclaimed queen, I wish they’d included DAKINGINDANORF chants.

    Question: during Olenna’s voiceover (“you don’t think I’d let you marry that beast, do you?”) is that a bear paw? If so, hells yeah for the Mormont sigil finally being included in a promo.

  45. For a teaser trailer, that was really well done. There was no new footage (or any footage), no new dialogue (except for Jon’s), and, yet, judging by the online reactions, it did what it was supposed to do: ramp up the HYPE. Unlike the Hall of Faces teaser from last year, which was received with a bunch of “WTF’s” and “that’s it?!”, most folks seem to love this teaser.

    I love the use of the voiceovers and the corresponding house sigil (“bring me his head” as the direwolf is shown), and how those sigils crumble as the real enemy is revealed. My only gripe is if they had to include Cersei being proclaimed queen, I wish they’d included DAKINGINDANORF chants.

    Question: during Olenna’s voiceover (“you don’t think I’d let you marry that beast, do you?”) is that a bear paw? If so, hells yeah for the Mormont sigil finally being included in a promo.

  46. That teaser was awesome, Jon’s line at the end gave me chills.

    July is such a long wait. But it will be worth it.

  47. Tatjana:
    Pigeon,

    We shall meet halfway then, mine is 25th

    So many July kids here! It really is ‘our’ season, don’tcha think? ?

    Mr Derp: Flayed Potatoes,

    Yup!And because he lost his head, he’s facing the wrong friggin direction with that blowtorch and doesn’t even know it.No wonder the Wall hasn’t crumbled yet

    I pictured this, and laughed rather obnoxiously, I admit.

    BunBunStark:
    For a teaser trailer, that was really well done. There was no new footage (or any footage), no new dialogue (except for Jon’s), and, yet, judging by the online reactions, it did what it was supposed to do: ramp up the HYPE. Unlike the Hall of Faces teaser from last year, which was received with a bunch of “WTF’s” and “that’s it?!”, most folks seem to love this teaser.

    I love the use of the voiceovers and the corresponding house sigil (“bring me his head” as the direwolf is shown), and how those sigils crumble as the real enemy is revealed. My only gripe is if they had to include Cersei being proclaimed queen, I wish they’d included DAKINGINDANORF chants.

    Question: during Olenna’s voiceover (“you don’t think I’d let you marry that beast, do you?”) is that a bear paw? If so, hells yeah for the Mormont sigil finally being included in a promo.

    I see the head of a bear as well, I think?

  48. Mel,

    For some reason a lot of people seem to interpret that speech as her going to annihilate every noble house or something similar which is just ridiculous to me. Breaking the wheel does not have to mean killing everyone, just changing the system so that it is more equal to everyone. In Meereen people were left to choose their own leaders so I would imagine she has something like that in mind for Westeros as well in the long run, of course she would have to somehow make sure that people would follow that new order at first, dragons are pretty good enforcers in that regard. And I do think that the Westerosi society is going to change in one way or the other before the end, whether it is Dany who brings the change or the overall situation that they will face, but I’m certain that the show would not have included that speech if it does not have any pay off at all before the end.

  49. This news was a lovely surprise to come home to! Admittedly, the premiere date is a bit later than I hoped it would be, but once Liam Cunningham let it slip that the show was likely to return in July, I was braced for that. And this teaser trailer is damn cool – it’s very evocative, and it certainly does the job of stoking the fires of hype that were already burning pretty hot as it was.

    I think it’s highly likely Jon’s line is will turn out to be actual dialogue from the new season. Last year, at least part of the Three-Eyed Raven’s line from the initial teaser was included in the show (“The past is already written. The ink is dry.”). Furthermore, the dialogue from the three banner teasers also made the final cut (although Ramsay’s warning from the Pink Letter was spoken by Jon instead).

    Anyway … this is damn exciting! 129 days! Let’s start the countdown clock! 🙂

  50. heh, “teaser”? I would simply call that an “advertisement!” I haven’t been paying much attention: I take it than that this is the first time we’ve gotten the date carved into stone, then?

    Masspsychosis: Breaking the wheel does not have to mean killing everyone, just changing the system so that it is more equal to everyone.

    I am with you: I would have thought this to be obvious! However, many people seem intent on projecting madness and violence onto Daenerys.

  51. Davos’ Luck,

    Start the countdown!

    Jared,

    129 days! Let’s start the countdown clock!

    I totally forgot about WOTW’s countdown banner. I’m such a GOT dork that even the promise of that gets me all excited.

  52. One takes it then that principal work on season 7 has ended.
    (Probably two weeks ago.)
    Post production has begun.
    Info on all that still a mystery.

  53. Though I am among those who find the ‘break the wheel’ speech melodramatic and hokey, I didn’t much mind its inclusion here. Seemingly, all the clips of dialogue were selected to create a cumulative impression of players in the game who are deluded in their thinking that the object is one house prevailing over another. When winter comes, they’re all in the same boat. I thought it was a pretty good assemblage.

    My favorite bit was the wildfire coinciding with ‘Cersei Lannister Protector of the Seven Kingdoms.’ Oh, the irony. With protectors like that, who needs enemies?

  54. Great stuff, was not expecting a premeire date until next month!

    Probably won’t get an actual trailer until June though.

  55. Masspsychosis,

    Because she’s part of the problem. The Targs are no different and no better than anyone else who takes power in feudal times. At the end of the day the poor are still poor and suffer and die so the nobility can profit. None of them care about the little people, they say they do but once they take power not much changes for the peasants.

  56. Ashara D,

    Ah, the “First” beer ritual! 😉

    Luka Nieto,

    Aw, thank! GoT & I have been doing a yin-yang thing: whenever there is something that might be worth discussing, I am swamped, and whenever I have some free time, there is a big lull in news.

    But, as Chevy Chase would have said, “Stannis is still dead.” 😉

  57. Procyonpi: Did anyone else just kinda scream “the dragon has three heads” at the first 10 seconds of this teaser?

    No, I thought, “Ahhh, shit! Dragon about to get dragon head!”

  58. kathy: None of them care about the little people, they say they do but once they take power not much changes for the peasants.

    Do we know that to be true? Moreover, neither show nor books have portrayed this as an absolute autocracy: there is not quite a Magna Carta, but a “populist” monarch would still have to get the lords to cooperate with progressive reforms.

    The other issue here is that both Daeny and Jon would be very different from any prior reformers. The “good” kings and lords of the past would have been was a medieval analog of “champagne socialists.” That is, they genuinely want to make life better for the small folk, but they really do not comprehend what life is like for peasants. Both Daeny & Jon have not only “stooped” that low, but gone “lower” by living with the savages (Dothraki & Wildlings). Both have had to endure actual hardship and seen even greater suffering first hand. That is the difference between sympathy and empathy.

    Tyrion also falls into these lines, as does Arya: the only one of the “Big Five” who really has not “roughed” it in this way is Bran, and he’s roughed it in other ways.

  59. Mr Derp: Yup! And because he lost his head, he’s facing the wrong friggin direction with that blowtorch and doesn’t even know it. No wonder the Wall hasn’t crumbled yet

    Aww, c’mon: we all know that Stannis has to still be alive, right? 😉

  60. Wimsey,

    I guess we can talk about this forever, but the teaser yet again brings up the “break the wheel” concept, possibly a hint that this will be important in the end game. That wheel includes the Targs, along with other great families. Putting Dany or Jon or both on the throne at the end hardly fits the concept. OK, the Targ might be enlightened, but that really doesn’t matter, as instead of breaking the wheel, the story would then be circling back to the beginning, recreating the status quo, in effect rebuilding the wheel.

    My sense is that we’ll still have the Iron Throne with a sovereign at the end, but the sovereign won’t belong to any of the great houses in the teaser. I can see someone like Davos taking over a Westeros where feudalism has been mortally wounded thanks to various disasters. He was never a part of the wheel. He is as capable of being progressive as Dany or Jon. He, or someone like him, would represent real change.

  61. Violator:
    16/07/2017

    There. Corrected.

    Carry on people, nothing to see.

    Here in the Free City of Braavos, we use the ISO standard format: 2017-07-16
    The Titan will crush you if you don’t.

    I was calmly, patiently accepting the delayed season.
    Then I saw the concert in Madison Square Garden.
    Then I saw this announcement.
    I am no longer calm and patient.
    I AM HYPED!!!

  62. Well… At least this short video is better than that crappy Ice and Fire poster!

    Let’s hope the trend continues and we get more teasers and hopefully some clips from now onwards 😉

  63. MLB All Star game is July 11th the same week as the S7 premiere. Hopefully the cross promotion is cool.

  64. Is this not the best teaser they’ve ever done? My fave parts were the concept, Season 1 scariness, old killer quotes esp. Joffrey, 3 headed dragon, Catelyn’s scream was everything, and Big Bear representin’!

  65. Finally! Great teaser, thank you HBO!!!

    I am very happy and will go to bed a happy man…. Now some behind the scenes and finished photo stills of all our fav characters and then in another month or so a real trailer!

    Yayyyyy!!!!!

  66. Wimsey: Do we know that to be true?Moreover, neither show nor books have portrayed this as an absolute autocracy: there is not quite a Magna Carta, but a “populist” monarch would still have to get the lords to cooperate with progressive reforms.

    The other issue here is that both Daeny and Jon would be very different from any prior reformers.The “good” kings and lords of the past would have been was a medieval analog of “champagne socialists.”That is, they genuinely want to make life better for the small folk, but they really do not comprehend what life is like for peasants.Both Daeny & Jon have not only “stooped” that low, but gone “lower” by living with the savages (Dothraki & Wildlings).Both have had to endure actual hardship and seen even greater suffering first hand.That is the difference between sympathy and empathy.

    Tyrion also falls into these lines, as does Arya: the only one of the “Big Five” who really has not “roughed” it in this way is Bran, and he’s roughed it in other ways.

    Astute as always. Welcome back.

  67. This teaser was so well done and effective, this is probably my favorite teaser so far!

    It’s interesting that both the teaser poster and promo focused so much on the white walker threat instead of the battle for the Iron Throne. I expect this will continue in the future trailers as well.

  68. Is this made by Momoco or just emulating their visual style?
    Seems similar to the opening titles sequences for Beowulf and, to a lesser extent, Hannibal (the series).

    Pigeon:

    I see the head of a bear as well, I think?

    That’s what I thought at first too, but the voice-over by Michael McElhatton (“The Lannisters send their regards”) and Diana Rigg (“You don’t think I’d let you marry that beast, do you?”), as well as the (Tyrell) thorny vine tendrils around the paw, indicate it is the Lannister lion.
    The Houses symbolically depicted on the teaser are Targaryen, Baratheon, Lannister, Stark, Greyjoy and Tyrell.
    And, of course, the green wildfire flames and the icy blue eye of the White Walkers and their wights, for a bit of color on Ice & Fire.

  69. Arthur:
    Finally!Great teaser, thank you HBO!!!

    I am very happy and will go to bed a happy man…. Now some behind the scenes and finished photo stills of all our fav characters and then in another month or so a real trailer!

    Yayyyyy!!!!!

    Remember we didn’t get a trailer for Season 6 until March and the premeire was in April. I wouldn’t be looking for a Season 7 trailer until June.

  70. I get it now. I am slow, I know.

    The Dragon has Three Heads.

    The Dragon is probably some misinterpreted Valeryan. There are three queens/kings in their own right. United they are able to battle what is coming.

    The true dragons are not unimportant but not as important as the prophecy translates.

  71. This was well worth the wait, nice teaser and poster as well. I’m just glad the show is back…even for only seven episodes…hopefully they are extra long….

    Until then I’ll just keep watching “Rogue One” and “Iron Fist” and “Legion” and “The Expanse” on a continuous loop…LOL

  72. I could have done without the cringey “break the wheel” speech, other than that, it was pretty cool.

  73. HBO, I LOVE YOU!!!! Well done!!!! Now that’s a teaser, now imagine the trailer!!! Only more four months, we are getting closer!!!!

  74. Masspsychosis,

    I don’t like the speech, and not because I think she’s going to destroy the noble houses – she didn’t do that in Meereen either.
    I don’t like it because it is presumptuous. All Dany has proven so far is that she can destroy things, but is utterly inept when it comes to raising something good out of the ashes. Astapor and Yunkai fell back to the slavers (or were taken over by new ones), Meereen became a hotbed of dissent, and the whole of Slaver’s Bay was severely destabilised. Now, if this was just a short-term thing followed up by plans to stabilise the region again, this wouldn’t have been so bad. But Dany didn’t have any plans. And now, Daario has to find a way to deal with the mess she left behind.

    The Break-the-wheel speech seems to indicate the same kind of thoughtlessness to me. You may call it naivite or well-meant first steps of a great ruler (though I’d go with Daario and say she’s a conqueror, not a queen) or something like that, but, as a wise man once said, the way to hell is paved with good intentions. The truth of the matter is that Dany has no idea what she is going to do after she breaks the wheel, and without a feasible plan for a better future and how to achieve it I think she has no right to destroy the system in the name of the people. (Especially without asking the people first.)

  75. Daenerys speaks the first lines on the teaser, John speaks the last.
    And good of HBO to remind us of Daenerys’ Mad King father, in the remote case we get another baby (a female twin) in the Tower of Joy later on.

  76. I don’t find the “break the wheel” speech vomit-inducing like some other posters do. Dany would have to have some confidence in herself – I know the BTW speech was not to a great crowd but women have been able to rouse the troops over the centuries – I think if Elizabeth I of England and Isabella of Castile (of Spain of course) as just two. If I’m telling folk something they already know (and those two historical women are well known) I’m not trying to come over like a school ma’am. In the show we’ve had the example of Tommen as a monarch who had self-doubt and that did not end well.* I didn’t mind the trailer – enough to be intriguing without being too “spoilery”.

    The blue eye at the end made me thing about Robb in Season I telling Bran that Old Nan used to tell him everyone lived in the eye of a blue-eyed giant called McCumber (sp? – I listened to the audio version of book GoT rather than read it). If that’s the bitter-sweet ending I shall not be amused!

    * Off-topic but I know George RR Martin likes to be counter-factual with his inspiration so I wondered if Tommen was like a young Edward III only with the difference that in real life Edward III when he grew old enough ousted his mother (Isabelle of France) who had been ruling as regent with Roger Mortimer (who may or may not have been her lover according to which historian you read). Edward III once he became King in his own right was warlike – claiming the crown of France (he never won it) through his mother and going to war with France.

  77. Yes finally!I love the teaser,the concept is great and my boy Jon coming at the end fits so well with the theme.The premiere is a bit far away but we knew it was gonna be in July and anyway we are used to waiting lol.The ice melting saga was just hilarious I loved it.

  78. Neat Teaser!

    So… I’m just wondering, what did the cast say?? Is there video of it somewhere? I see pics of their pretty pretty faces but would love to hear their dulcet voices as well. :p

  79. that trailer was awesome. I’m assuming Jon line is new.

    And I don’t care how Daenerys break the wheel and if she does.
    what she said fits perfectly with house sigils crumbling and then we have jon line at the ending cementing that.
    The message: the battle at dawn is going to make all the wars among kings seem like petty feuds.

  80. Happy to get the teaser too but this probably means we won’t see the first proper trailer until May (at the earliest) if last season is anything to go by. I assume they will start on the final season scripts soon, I really hope GRRM gets involved again.

    It just feels so close yet far away.

  81. ramses,

    Well, if the purpose is to show that she is an inexperienced, idealistic and dumb teenage girl then sure, it makes sense. But I doubt it, it was an overly melodramatic speech to make her look cool.

    Sorry, but to me at least that doesn’t work. Sounds pretty but there is no substance. Look, I can say “I will make everyone equal in income, a great salary for everyone, and there will be no unemployment, and no crime”, see, am I awesome? anyone can say words like that.

  82. Wimsey,

    Welcome back! This announcement & trailer miraculously have brought wanderers where they belong 🙂
    BTW, I like the trailer, I find it powerful and I enjoyed the symbolism.

  83. Shy Lady Dragon: BTW, I like the trailer, I find it powerful and I enjoyed the symbolism.

    Danke! Oh, and, yeah: the symbolism works well, and it really is a very effective reminder to people who enjoy the show about the why of the show.

    I am really curious as to what the story is going to be this year. Although we had not read the book for last season, it was a lot easier to see what GRRM was setting up in Dragons. This year is a bit more opaque to me. One of the things that emerges from last year was coalition building/destroying, and we are basically nearing the grand finale, so something building on this would seem appropriate. But I am really curious to see what the big quandaries are going to be this year. For the first time, I really feel quite clueless! (Well, for this: I’ve felt clueless about a lot of things for a lot of my life: and I’ve been clueless on even more things!!!)

    Hey, I saw a “Shy Lady Knife” on some Netflix show a couple of months ago: but I don’t remember the circumstances now! 😀

  84. The dragons were on top but they also crumbled first which I find interesting. I would be really surprised if Dany survives this show.

  85. I wouldn’t rule too much into a teaser as the people doing it will certainly not know the ending. They’ve probably just been given a sense of what is to come in season 7 which may means Dany crumbles to an extent then.

    That said, I doubt both Jon and Dany survive the ending.

  86. I’m very much hoping that the words spoken by Jon at the end of this trailer are taken from the Dragon Pit scene.

    I like to imagine that we begin with all the normal arguments between the houses and threats of violence.

    Then Jon lets the wight loose and even Strong cannot stop.

    This puts them all in their place.

    Euron will say that as long as wights can’t swim, he’ll be safe. But Jon will fucking him up too by reminding him that the Night King now has a wight-dragon, thus shutting that shit head up too.

    Their pathetic squabbling means nothing to the power rising in the north and if they don’t unite now, there won’t be any Westeros and their dynasties will be meat for the Other’s armies. They don’t care for sigils and iron thrones.

    The response is silence – Jon reveals himself to be the one protagonist in this series who was worth taking seriously, because he was fighting the only fight that mattered. Every other bastard just got told.

    That would be my dream scene.

  87. Gina,

    I don’t think there’s anything in it.

    They just started with her because let’s face it, the dragons are the coolest sigil.

    Looks like Dany will be the first major player to side with Jon in the interests of the kingdom.

    Which is good, ’cause she’s ace. Yeah, she’ll die, but I think she’ll be one of the last, not the first. He role is just too significant.

  88. Jonathan Coldrain:
    I get it now. I am slow, I know.

    The Dragon has Three Heads.

    The Dragon is probably some misinterpreted Valeryan. There are three queens/kings in their own right. United they are able to battle what is coming.

    The true dragons are not unimportant but not as important as the prophecy translates.

    “the dragon has three heads..” IS part of a prophecy in the book (that i dont think has been mentioned in the show) but the Targ symbol shown in the teaser is just that.. the house symbol (representing Aegon the Conquer and his two sisters..and their three dragons that conquered Westeros)

  89. Jack Bauer 24,

    I might question the level of difficulty in the “more” comparison, as in grueling battlefield work, but we’ll see. If referring to more filming and more scenes I think that could be entirely possible. There were some that he wasn’t, but it seemed like he was present at nearly all of the filming locations. It makes sense that he would have more this year with the focus narrowing.

    Didn’t we believe that it was Lena that needed to do less filming due to personal reasons? If she has fewer scenes that would require more from others as well.

  90. Clob:
    Jack Bauer 24,

    I might question the level of difficulty in the “more” comparison, as in grueling battlefield work, but we’ll see.If referring to more filming and more scenes I think that could be entirely possible.There were some that he wasn’t, but it seemed like he was present at nearly all of the filming locations.It makes sense that he would have more this year with the focus narrowing.

    Didn’t we believe that it was Lena that needed to do less filming due to personal reasons?If she has fewer scenes that would require more from others as well.

    Did Carice ever film? I only remember being updated on her body double.

  91. Abbie:
    Jack Bauer 24,

    make sense. jon also goes to southern locations which means kit had to do more traveling. He also does another battle this season.

    True, but that battle sounds nothing on the scale of BotB. The big battle is with the Lannisters and Team Dany.
  92. I just watched again, and the “The same thing is coming for all of us” line sounds a bit like Barristan to me, rather than Sean Bean. Did he ever say that line? I miss Ser Grandfather…

    Welcome back, Wimsey! My VM and VD Collector Set is chillin’ as we speak!

  93. Violator: Looks like Dany will be the first major player to side with Jon in the interests of the kingdom.

    Or Jon sides with her! As Jon is no longer with the NW, he can choose sides much more plainly.

    One thing that is (insofar as I have read!) up in the air is when/how Jon is going to learn of his parentage and/if it is going to turn out that his parents were married. The latter in particular would have a strong effect on how they interact: or, perhaps more important, how their respective followers react.

    There are a lot of ways in which this could play out!

  94. keltia:
    Wimsey,

    Welcome back to the Wall. We were about to send Benjen to look for you.

    What Keltia said. Been missing you, Wimsey! I thought maybe you were purposely trying to avoid spoilers, but whatever the reason, it’s great to see you!

  95. Pigeon,
    I’m with you on this one. Although logically it’s probably a lion, the animal head at 33 seconds really looks like a bear to me.

  96. Jack Bauer 24,

    I think Operation Grab-a-wight is supposed to take up the majority of episode 6, so it probably will be as big as btob and the battle at the wall.
  97. O_o,

    Don’t be sorry for your opinion. Whether or not you’re awesome depends entirely on how many dragons you have.

  98. Pigeon: I love this! ?

    Yeah the ice block would seem to show that the Wall will be standing there looking at its watch (Watch?) and giggling while flames try to melt it for 40000 years.

    <3<3<3

  99. Mr Derp: DaphNenya,

    Nice.I did the same thing for my Dad.I printed out family trees, gave him the link to an interactive map of Westeros/Essos, etc., but he is still completely lost when he watches the show.He’s the kind of guy you’d see in the movie theater whispering “Wait, I thought he was with those guys”.I’m still trying to get him to make sense out of it.

    Awww, so cute about your Dad 🙂

    I also printed her a map of Westeros and told her about the family sigils etc.
    She still mixes or forgets about some characters, but she is rewatching at the moment and doing quite good.

    It was really sweet when I was calling her to see what she remembered and understood and when I was asking her how many episodes she had watched the night before, she was whispering “hmmmm…. Five” with a guilty voice. lol

  100. “the same thing is coming for all of us”

    That line has a certain echo to it.. I wonder if thats because he is in a haul or maybe a dragon pit… Saying to to everyone. He silences all their bickering to go into a nice rant about all he has lost and the need to set it aside to fight.

  101. Wolfish: I thought maybe you were purposely trying to avoid spoilers, but whatever the reason, it’s great to see you!

    Actually, there has been a little of that! Past “spoilers” have really not been overly big stretches. Even last year, most of the big events were set up at the end of the last published book as well as by the end of the prior year. That gave us a little bit of “triangulation”: ideas that jibed with both the last book and the prior series were the better ones. That is still true, but because we are further away from the last book, it is not as obvious what ideas might or might not be consistent.

    In some ways, that is making me look forward to this year even more!

  102. Violator,

    I guess we won’t know for sure until it airs! I think it would be really shocking to fans if she died but also not very surprising as she has made such incredible mistakes and more people have died for less.

  103. Jon Snowed,

    I definitely think she will struggle but I guess to what extent is the question. I absolutely agree with the last bit. I always felt like it would be her but he wouldn’t get such a hot future either

  104. Lulus Mum:
    Pigeon,
    I’m with you on this one. Although logically it’s probably a lion, the animal head at 33 seconds really looks like a bear to me.

    I kept watching it, and it just has the thicker neck/narrower snout, you know? Like an annoyed grizzly. But let’s face it – we should be grateful it wasn’t a giant monster penguin. ?

  105. Hmm 4 more months ..I just wish

    Wimsey,

    Yes exactly although ..I don’t think tyrion falls into that category at all because we have rarely seen him do that ( or should I say not the same level as we see Jon dany and arya ) ..i guess we all been impacted by peter and his version.

    Masspsychosis,

    For starters its dany who says it..you will be surprised to find how many still doesn’t really know that she also included her own house ..
    Kind of makes you wonder do these people even watch the show.

    But iam not the big fan as for as the writing of that dialogue goes .one because it doesnt show what dany intends to do when she speaks about breaking the wheel…sure i could convinve myself that she is thinking of Aegon the conqueror and how he broke the wheel…dany has been agent of change in the story ..wherever she goes change happens ..so say she is going to put an end to the system and introduce new one it would have been more suited they have just showed us rather than give us this line ..

    I have had my suspicions all along that this line was there in the first place as a trailer material and a cool dialogue..and its irritating that they are only using this one line when it comes to dany in all the promos..While There are much better lines of dany from books that have been ignored which shows her empathy and compassion towards the people..book dany doesn’t go yelling I will take what is mine fire and blood and keep giving speeches which seems the only thing show writers are giving dany to do ..

  106. Gina,

    The only thing that still has me interested in the show after reading all those spoilers and leaks from season 7 is that it has given me hope that there is chance that dany is going to survive this damn thing if thats how season 7 ends.

  107. didi,

    If the people are not happy they won’t be shouting mhysa or start following her footsteps..

    If there is going to be a change in the story than it will be because of the actions and decisions of dany and Jon and not by people who we haven’t read or seen

    Now, if this short-term thing followed up by plans to stabilise the region again, this wouldn’t have been so bad. But Dany didn’t have any plans. And now, Daario has to find a way to deal with the mess she left behind.

    dany did have plans and she did act on it ..and she will be acting more on it in the coming book ..the fact that you think Dario has been left to find a way to clean the mess shows how poorly show handled the situation and if you ask the showriters they will say you are not meant to assume that slavers bay sorry bay of dragon is a mess right now..of course they will credit the wise tyrion lannister for that no doubt..

  108. dragonbringer,

    According to those spoilers, everyone will! Which I find incredibly suspicious…
    I personally don’t believe the spoilers as far as I can throw them even though it seems some of them were “confirmed”.

  109. Gina,

    I gave up long ago hoping that they are false ..

    Anyways Dany will not die in season 7 because she is one of the protagonists in the story and if her death happens it will happen at the end of the show..
    So based on how season 7 seems ending I started believing that this may result in dany surviving the series after all( not that surviving means any good in westros..she will be miserable after the war )

  110. dragonbringer,

    Be that as it may, we are talking about the show here. The book ends before she leaves the Bay, and if in the book she leaves withouth stabilising the region, I’ll still think that she left before making things right by the people she claimed to speak for. As I said, good intentions or no, she has yet to prove that she can do more good than damage. In the show it certainly doesn’t look that way – and the break-the-wheel speech doesn’t help dissuade that impression.

  111. dragonbringer,

    You are most likely right about her surviving this season at least. I would just be surprised if she survived the show. I think whether she goes the whole way down into madness or just stays at halfway (yes I think she definitely has some seriously crazy moments) will determine her final outcome.

  112. didi,

    The whole part where she screams to her bloodriders about ripping down peoples houses and raping and stuff certainly didn’t convince me she knew what she was doing either… The poor people of westeros really don’t need that right now after years of war and an even worse war coming! Yikes!

  113. Gina:
    didi,

    The whole part where she screams to her bloodriders about ripping down peoples houses and raping and stuff certainly didn’t convince me she knew what she was doing either… The poor people of westeros really don’t need that right now after years of war and an even worse war coming! Yikes!

    Nope ..she didn’t say what you said at all..please watch again

    didi,

    And iam talking about the show too..I only mentioned books because only in that you will be getting detailed descriptions of the events because the show doesn’t get into much details..

    Like I said when dany leaves slavers bay with tyrion its not supposed to be a mess nor to be assume that she leaves darrio to clean up the mess..

    She had cleaned up the mess and set up a system where freed men and former masters coexist and she had left darrio to protect that place and oversee the system is not overthrown like it did in astopor at first ..

  114. dragonbringer,

    No she did not explicitly say go “rape everyone you see” but she knows that is exactly what is implied along with the rest because they are dothraki and that is what they do. My point (which I should have used real quotations for, my apologies) is that she doesn’t care what happens to people as long as she views them as her “ememies”. She is fine with destroying cities and burning people alive, tricking people and going back on deals, etc. If Tyrion hadn’t stopped her, she would have taken a much more hostile approach to the attack on Mereen.

  115. Gina,

    No she did not imply that because she had been fighting the very same dothraki and their ways from the start ..
    Her speech was no different to what tyrion or theon or Sandor or stannis or anyone who is leading an army gives..

    The fact that she stayed was because she cared ..and she wanted her enemies to coexist in the world with her people ..

    Ugh please don’t use the Battle of Bastards example because you will never see dany say those words as in the show and it was used as foreshadowing for next episode with cersei more than anything ..

    Dany had shown many times how she is capable of finding a way where she gains more and keeps the loses very less..dany would have come up with the same conclusion if tyrion was not there and it would not have been surprising..

    Let’s just agree to disagree here.

    Jack Bauer 24,

    Haha I didn’t realize I left it at that..I just wish the wait is worth it

  116. dragonbringer,

    I think maybe we just have different perceptions from how we think things will end. Just out of curiosity, what do you think will happen to her/happen in the end?

  117. Gina,

    The thing about her going mad will never happen …even the show runners as said that much..

    She will be fighting the real war as chosen one and ofcourse when you are fighting the last war and one of the protagonists then odds are you may end up dying …
    She will destroy the heart of winter based on the symbolism from HoTU in books and in process may sacrifice herself..
    And If leaks turn out to be true and

    Nights king does end up with a dragon

    then this maens dany is the only one or one among two who is capable of fighting Nights king ..
    So her chances of dying seems high..
    But she can also survive and help build the kingdom after the war ..and she was certainly given the education and experience and set up for that role also

  118. dragonbringer,

    I agree, I must say though I was disappointed that the show didn’t show the former slavers bay once she made the former masters finally stop fighting against her. I know the book will go in depth about happens after, I think Volantis will also have a bigger part to play but I do wish it showed the system Dany put in place in the show but instead it seemed like they didn’t pace Dany’s story correctly and since they needed her to leave at the end of S6 they rushed her story and cut out a huge chunk of what should of been shown on screen so people would actually see that she didn’t merely leave Essos to their own devices.
    Also with the Dothraki speech, what I see is truer to her is when she speaks to the unsullied or slaves, her speech to the dothraki it seemed they did a parallel to the same speech Drogo spoke in S1 but Dany removed the rape part and I know that is how you are supposed to rile up and inspire the Dothraki as they respond to violence better but I also think it may have given the audience the wrong idea about the kind of person she is.

  119. Respect your opinion but it appears hugely biased. I am pretty sure this won’t be a happy end for Danny in terms of rising up defeating the Nights King and ruling afterwards. That scenario is so out of place with overall story even if you exclude the obvious madness and fact Jon has the better claim. Of course it’s guess work how it will end but pointers from earlier seasons and the Jon reveal suggest a happy ending for Dany is unlikely.

    Just a guess but she may sacrifice herself to defeat the others or she surely comes into conflict with Jon and losses.

  120. Jon Snowed,

    I respectfully disagree, everyone’s obsession with Dany becoming mad is becoming a bit old. Not only have D&D said Dany is not gonna become mad multiple times but if you look into the history of The Targaryen’s you see their “Madness” is a over exaggeration Only 6/7 were considered mad out of the entire line around 45 or so and 6 went through horribly traumatic events like for example Queen Helaena whose three children and herself were kidnapped and they made her choose one child to be murdered under the threat they would rape and kill them all, she choose her youngest but they killed her oldest so she sank into madness and eventually killed herself. The only one who didn’t suffer a traumatic event was Maegor who was cruel and spoilt as a child like Joffrey.
    Jon and Dany will not fight over the IT that’s silly, they are to become comrades, friends and family in the WW War and if by chance both of them survive which I doubt both will if any of them I doubt either will want the IT, they both have had dreams of a quiet life, a family, a child to hold in their arms, they are not gonna kill the only other living Targaryen besides themselves. If one does in fact sit on IT I imagine the other will be dead and they will do it because of a duty not a desire and they won’t fight for it, they will be tired of fighting and sitting on the IT will not be a happy life for them it will be bittersweet.

  121. On another note, Kit and Emilia are both the new faces of Dolce & Gabbana’s new perfume line “The One” male/female versions.
    When I saw that I was like What The Hell, what a coincidence two main actors from GOT are doing that, it’s either a coincidence or they read the leaks lol

  122. Mel,

    Yes exactly..people need to get over this assumption that only death means a sad ending and living and being queen is happy ending ..
    I would say those who survive will be more tragic ending than those who love ..

    And I for one hope dany lives and my hope only increased on that score based on season 7 leaks where

    cersei still lives and holding the throne but dany going north

    ..we all thought opposite of that will happen ..iam particularly against some of this sacrificing herself in the final war because they use it as some sort of redemption for dany to die by sacrifing herself whereelse I don’t think there is anything that she should be redeemed for ..

  123. dragonbringer,

    I would really like that ending and I think a lot if people think it will end that way or the other romantic way where Jon and Dany fall in love (and he stabs her.. or doesn’t). I have always since the beginning had a weird opinion of what the ending will be so I can see where we would disagree on her plot and character development.
    I think that Targaryens and the White Walkers have linked prophecies and the White Walkers are coming down largely to kill Dany because in their prophecies she is the one who will destroy the world, which she would if they never came down. I think Sam Bran and Jon will figure it out and Bran will be the only one who can kill her (ice dragon anyone?) Then Jon uses his Stark blood (white walkers trust the starks) and his Targaryen blood (enemies) to be the perfect spokesperson to make a treaty with them. He may even marry one of them or something. There are a lot of other characters in this story who are probably important but I have no idea how they will fit. Also I have come to terms that this ending will never happen but it is a nice dream anyway haha

  124. Pigeon,
    Yeah, definitely got a grizzly vibe from it. It seemed too chunky for a lion, which are usually quite sleek. Perhaps it’s been on a very high calorie diet? Winter is coming and it might have decided to avoid the Great War by hibernating, so increased body fat would be a necessity.

    As for the giant killer penguins, that could be what Jon is referring to. We’re just assuming the thing coming for all of us is the army of the dead. What if they are just the advanced guard for the REAL horror. A flock(?) of 15ft tall, half ton, pingus! o_0

  125. Lulus Mum:
    Pigeon,
    Yeah, definitely got a grizzly vibe from it. It seemed too chunky for a lion, which are usually quite sleek. Perhaps it’s been on a very high calorie diet? Winter is coming and it might have decided to avoid the Great War by hibernating, so increased body fat would be a necessity.

    As for the giant killer penguins, that could be what Jon is referring to. We’re just assuming the thing coming for all of us is the army of the dead. What if they are just the advanced guard for the REAL horror. A flock(?) of 15ft tall, half ton, pingus! o_0

    And the scariest part is that, well, they’re penguins. So imagine these half ton, 15 foot, googly-eyed pingus….

    https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=91Wyp0kOuNI

  126. Gina,

    I don’t think it will happen that way but a actual Treaty with the White Walkers is a possible theory GRRM has said WW are grey not evil like all of his characters, though not too sure about marriage considering we have never once actually seen a female White Walker only wights (Zombie’s) In the books it is mentioned that Craster gave the WW I think almost 100 sons but never a single daughter that were turned into WW, so i’m not sure they even have females as they don’t breed the natural way, they create their own by taking human babies.

  127. Lulus Mum:

    logically it’s probably a lion

    You’re on the right track here.

    Pigeon,

    Rygritte,

    Blame the CGI artists for bad angle options or poor feline representations.
    A penguin I can understand, but why would the Mormont bear be depicted over two sound bites from the Red Wedding? The Mormonts had nothing to do with it.
    It’s the same Lannister lion in a silent roar, winning the War of the Five Kings.
    And why would the Tyrell prickly rose stems be wrapping around a Mormont bear paw?
    These houses never interacted.
    They are wrapping around the paw of the Lannister lion (episode title: “The Lion and the Rose”), while Olenna’s line plays to represent the Purple Wedding.
    And later, when the camera is rotating faster around the complex, there’s no bear.
    The teaser isn’t just throwing up random images – it’s recounting key events or time periods from past seasons in precise chronological order using abstract symbolism, and then hinting at things to come in the future. The sound bites were picked to describe the events along with the imagery simultaneously.

    To your defense, a lot of people saw a bear.
    I hate to post links from the competition, but they did a great job breaking the teaser down:

    http://winteriscoming.net/2017/03/10/screencap-breakdown-the-game-of-thrones-season-7-teaser-trailer/

  128. Lulus Mum:

    logically it’s probably a lion

    Yes.

    Pigeon,

    Rygritte,

    Blame the CGI artists for bad angle options or poor feline representations.
    A penguin I can understand, but why would the Mormont bear be depicted over two sound bites from the Red Wedding? The Mormonts had nothing to do with it.
    It’s the same Lannister lion in a silent roar, winning the War of the Five Kings.
    And why would the Tyrell prickly rose stems be wrapping around a Mormont bear paw?
    These houses never interacted.
    They are wrapping around the paw of the Lannister lion (episode title: “The Lion and the Rose”), while Olenna’s line plays to represent the Purple Wedding.
    And later, when the camera is rotating faster around the complex, there’s no bear.
    The teaser isn’t just throwing up random images – it’s recounting key events or time periods from past seasons in precise chronological order using abstract symbolism, and then hinting at things to come in the future. The sound bites were picked to describe the events along with the imagery simultaneously.

  129. Pigeon,
    Squeeeeee for pengis! That’s the trouble with anything really large, even if they aren’t trying to kill us all, they could easily quash people accidentally and, as your awesome link shows, they aren’t very steady on their feet.

  130. The Sybian,
    What, wait, where’s this logic and common sense coming from? This is the internet, we have standards here! 😉 Tbh I watched it with the sound off and wasn’t thinking about the Houses at all. Just saying what I saw, so to speak. Ooooh look some dragons, a stag, and a pigging great big bear. It needs a mane to be more lionesque I feel.

    They don’t want to show us giant killer penguins and spoil the surprise but THEY ARE COMING (as per my avatar) 😀

  131. Lulus Mum:
    The Sybian,
    What, wait, where’s this logic and common sense coming from? This is the internet, we have standards here! ? Tbh I watched it with the sound off and wasn’t thinking about the Houses at all. Just saying what I saw, so to speak. Ooooh look some dragons, a stag, and a pigging great big bear. It needs a mane to be more lionesque I feel.

    They don’t want to show us giant killer penguins and spoil the surprise but THEY ARE COMING (as per my avatar) ?

    Oh hell, now all I can picture is a bear in drag with a fabulous wig.

  132. Lulus Mum:

    where’s this logic and common sense coming from? This is the internet, we have standards here!

    My humble apologies – won’t happen again!

    Reanimated dragon mounts, polar bears, giant ice spiders: none of these will be able to surpass the havoc those beaks will be wreaking.
    All men will look like wriggling, juicy Tullys.
    Will I be able to actually watch without looking away?
    The horror…

  133. Pigeon,
    Marg’s OTT wedding hair would make a fabulous mane!

    The Sybian,
    It’s ok, I’ll let you off this time. Of course unlike the WWs and wights, being in water will not only not allow you an escape, but actually be far more dangerous as that’s where they do their best work. If you’ve seen some of my other posts I am also a big fan of flying zombie nazi sharks and hope they will combine with said giant killer penguins for total air, land and sea carnage. There is no escape!

  134. Dame of Mercia,

    My first thought regarding the eye was a possible reference to Old Nan’s tale! When friends start reading the book, I always tell them to pay attention to what she says, because Old Nan may be right!

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