Mysterious new Game of Thrones footage popping up today

Well, we tried to wait it out and see if the actual video would turn up today, but no dice so far. So, we’re diving into the quick and dirty screencaps and seeing what we find!

Last night, it seems that a new teaser or trailer for Game of Thrones season 6 aired on TBS during the basketball game, around 10:40PM Central Time. Luckily our friend Manu happened to be watching the game, and managed to catch several images from the trailer and jot down a description of the action happening onscreen.

We’re going to be sharing Manu’s screencaps below (with his permission), along with descriptions, speculation and thoughts, so if you’re spoiler-phobic, this is where you check-out, because there’s some good stuff here!

Update: This video version has surfaced finally! We’ll keep looking for a better version but it’s great to have something!

The trailer’s dialogue/voiceover appears to include three notable sections of dialogue. First, Tyrion, speaking his line about “the great game” that was featured in the first trailer. Then, the High Sparrow speaks with Tommen. Manu believes it was a new line of dialogue. The last half of the trailer was a Jaqen H’ghar voiceover, speaking of giving the gift and adding to the wall of faces. There may have been more small pieces of dialogues throughout.

Manu says, “Trailer opens with Dany, very end of second frame shows someone pushing her confirming captivity.”

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Tyrion, Missandei and Grey Worm in the throne room in Meereen:

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Next we see figures running in the snowy woods, including Sansa and most likely Theon, just after their escape from Winterfell:

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The High Sparrow with Tommen:

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Jaime on horseback, surrounded by Tyrell soldiers. People who have been following spoilers know that this is from the big scene filmed in Girona, involving Margaery.

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Brienne attacking men, while on a horse. From the snowy-Northern-forest look of things, this is connected to Sansa and Theon’s scene; she appears to be rescuing them!

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Drogon flies over the Dothraki moving into Vaes Dothrak, casting a shadow down on them:

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Tyrion- paying a visit to the remaining two dragons, perhaps?

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Jaqen H’ghar and Arya Stark, in the House of Black and White. We hear Jaqen’s voice during this:

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The trailer contains several quick close-ups (possibly even more than Manu managed to capture):

Jaime talking to the High Sparrow

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Arya, as a blind beggar on the street

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Theon, with someone. I agree with Manu that this is probably his sister Yara.

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Sansa, while on the run in the snowy woods:

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Ramsay, before the big episode 9 battle. Manu tells us he also saw the same shots we’ve previously seen of the burning flayed man and charging horses on the battle field.

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As we reported exclusively back in November,  we get to see a giant paying a visit to the gates of Winterfell! (Edit: Everyone’s pretty confident this shot is of Castle Black, so damn, Wun Wun is going to be busy this season.)

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And there’s a quick flash from the Tower of Joy fight scene! Both men that we can see look to be wearing the Stark leather armor (the one on the right more clearly so). I’d love to get a clean look especially at this shot.  The man just appearing in the far left side of the frame seems to have more armor on and is presumably the opponent, perhaps the Targaryen-armored once glimpsed in the first trailer. (Edit: now that we have the video, I can see that these are the three soldiers who are all fighting against the Targaryen-armored knight, who is obscured in the center.)

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And finally, another incredibly exciting moment: a glimpse of the Night’s King grabbing Bran’s arm! This looks to be part of that moment from the first trailer when Bran turns to see the White Walker king, but we weren’t certain if there would be any interaction, since Bran is having visions. This is getting better and better!

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Though the footage was fast, Manu says he’s sure he didn’t see anything of Jon Snow, Davos or Melisandre in the trailer.

Thank you very much for the quick eyes and thorough capturing, Manu! Everyone give him a big thanks and be sure to read his Memory Lane write-up that’ll be posted next Tuesday, when Manu pays tribute to one of season 3’s best episodes, “Kissed By Fire.”

We’ll keep on hunting for the video of this teaser. So far, it sounds like HBO has no plans to release it online but maybe they’ll surprise us?

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    1. Great photos, praise Manu.

      Are we sure that’s the Gates of Winterfell? It fits the spoilers, but it looks more like Castle Black to me

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    2. I know for a fact the giant bursts into Winterfell. So either A) that’s Winterfell, one of its gates, or B) Wun Wun is busting into multiple gates this season. (Which is not impossible.)

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    3. Great catch Manu! Thanks! Where did he see this? As cosca has said, I’m pretty sure that’s Castle Black… Although it could be one of the rampart walkways of Winterfell too…

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    4. I don’t understand how no video has surfaced. If Manu could pause, why not record the whole thing? Just curious. We had the game on and my husband and I are both huge fans of the books and show. How could we miss it???

      Also, I totally called the Drogon above the horde shot from the first trailer when she looks to the sky. How exciting!

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    5. I like the Drogon POV shot!!

      That’s Tyrion probably looking at the Dragons, so it’s probably a “show version” of the Quentyn scene in the books. With obviously a different punchline, hopefully.

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    6. Maybe it will air during basketball again tonight. I’ll be watching for it.

      Love Bran and the Night’s King. Don’t like Ramsay and his army. He needs to get his due this season.

      Odd that this footage would air without the usual fanfare. Has it happened in past seasons?

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    7. I may very well spontaneously combust after seeing this. I previously said I’ve been cool calm and collective in waiting for the new season, but I’m starting to get antsy. Now let’s hear something from George

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    8. I saw the “commercial” too. It was on TBS last night during the NCAA Tournament sweet sixteen games. I saw it during the Oklahoma and Texas A&M game. There are two more games on tonight (one starting shortly) so it’s possible we might get to see it tonight.

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    9. MarthaAnn:
      I saw the “commercial” too. It was on TBS last night during the NCAA Tournament sweet sixteen games. I saw it during the Oklahoma and Texas A&M game. There are two more games on tonight (one starting shortly) so it’s possible we might get to see it tonight.

      Someone please record it!!! LOL

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    10. Three Starkmen in the fight pic. You can see a man in the middle of the two prominent Starkmen and to the right of the closest man’s shield. Mostly a man’s arm holding a sword. I think it’s the same colour as the other Starks.

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    11. Wun Wun’s gonna destroy them gates this season isn’t he.

      So did people read the EW issue where it said bodies pile up on the Battle of the Bastards. That reddit poster claimed something similiar? Unless it was just a figure of speech.

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    12. Sue the Fury:
      I know for a fact the giant bursts into Winterfell. So either A) that’s Winterfell, one of its gates, or B) Wun Wun is busting into multiple gates this season. (Which is not impossible.)

      Looks more like Castle Black to me, i dont know if im the only one lol. I could be wrong

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    13. In a tidbit from WIC, apparently GOT shot 10 days on Calgary this year; this is apparently where they shoot the wolves for the Direwolf scenes in the show…so presumably we’re guaranteed more Direwolf action than the 2 shots of Ghost that we saw last year!

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    14. Mag:
      Brienne will kill all those Boltons alone ??? Looks difficult…

      Podrick had some training. He will probably help this time

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    15. I’ll try to record it if I see it again. Plan on watching games this evening but the ones in which we are most interested in watching are on CBS.

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    16. Well this is exciting and great praise to Manu, but it’s not anything significantly new…yet. The hunt continues!!

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    17. Connor:
      Does Drogon seem bigger to anyone? Judging by his shadow over the Dothraki.

      Special effects guys said the dragons double in size every year, and will double in size specifically in Season 6 yet again.

      Season 5 Drogon was about 40 feet long (keeping in mind that this is from snout to tail-point, and dragons are “mostly tail, neck, and wing” (anything more bulky would be unwieldy in the air). Drogon is also officially always about 20% larger than the other two.

      So….80 foot long Drogon next year?

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    18. Connor:
      Does Drogon seem bigger to anyone? Judging by his shadow over the Dothraki.

      Season 6 takes place immediately after the Season 5 finale, so I don’t think so.

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    19. mariamb:
      Maybe it will air during basketball again tonight. I’ll be watching for it.

      Love Bran and the Night’s King. Don’t like Ramsay and his army. He needs to get his due this season.

      Odd that this footage would air without the usual fanfare. Has it happened in past seasons?

      Majority of the fanbase probably doesn’t even know this footage exists.

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    20. cosca:
      Connor,

      They’re the wardens of the north. Maybe Smalljon Umber doesn’t give a shit about the Starks.

      Maybe the Wildlings issue for the Umbers trumps their status as Starks bannermen?

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    21. TheMannis,

      This is something that came up in our discussion group on Good reads; I am hoping the same. It would be something they would do, unless T is part of the three headed dragon, or has some other destiny. Please, I’d lose my shit.

      Also, regarding my first comment, I’m not doubting the authenticity, just wondering how, if you can pause, rewind, replay, and take photos, why not rewind and play, and record? Unless he had a Poloroid or old school camera… In any case, TBS is about to have some record ratings tonight!!

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    22. Wun Wun The Great Gatecrasher. He be bustin’ down them gates like a motherfu…

      Damn, that TOJ fight is gonna kick ass.

      tkk,

      Rather the latter. Bodies do tend to pile up on a battlefield.

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    23. George: Maybe the Wildlings issue for the Umbers trumps their status as Starks bannermen?

      Well, why would they view siding with Wildlings as part of their duties as Stark Bannermen? As Bannermen to the Lords of Winterfell, one of the Umbers’ duties is to help repulse Wildling invasions.

      Remember, Jon does tell Ygritte that every boy in the North grows up learning about the 6 prior Wildlings invasions. OK, that’s probably every “high born” boy: but they are the ones that make policy decisions!

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    24. mariamb:
      Jack Bauer 24,

      That’s probably correct. So I will ask again: why release it without any hype?

      Not really sure. Maybe it was a test run, or they didn’t mean to air it yet? It makes sense to air it during the games because they get high ratings. Maybe they’ll air it before Vinyl on Sunday night. They’ve been airing the trailer before it the past few weeks.

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    25. Guys I have a theory: (SPOILERS, btw)

      In the books, wasn’t Victarion Greyjoy attacking Mereen by the end of book 5? So, for the Ironborn storyline this season, the first part could be the kingsmoot. You know, meet the new characters, do the kingsmoot itself, and some more character building. THEN – in the 1st trailer, if you caught it, there was a millisecond shot of a bunch of ships at sea in a storm. This could only be the Iron Fleet. Now, if they somewhat carry the storyline from the book, Euron (instead of Victarion) could be sailing to Mereen to try and marry Daenerys or take one of her dragons. This would be super cool, and after all the Battle of Slavers bay stuff is over and IF Daenerys beats the ironborn or makes some sort of alliance with them, she would have tons of ships for travelling to Westeros.
      What do you think?

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    26. The Drowned Goddess:
      TheMannis,

      This is something that came up in our discussion group on Good reads; I am hoping the same. It would be something they would do, unless T is part of the three headed dragon, or has some other destiny. Please, I’d lose my shut.

      Heck, some people have been waiting for a scene with Tyrion and Dragons for years (up close and personal, that is, not the I see a Dragon in the distance like last season), if not decades…LOL. Looks like the show is going to give it to us…

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    27. cosca,

      But assuming Rickon is at Last Hearth – if the Smalljon is immoral why hasn’t he just handed Rickon over to the Boltons?

      If the Umbers march with the Boltons then they’ll be the turn cloaks ready to turn on the Boltons during the battle.

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    28. I wonder if Yara and Theon will take Victarion’s place….I won’t miss Victarion, I’m just concerned about Yara and Theon — will this drastically change their storylines? Problem is that we really don’t know what they’re going to do in the next novel, so we have no way of judging if it is really a drastic change or not.

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    29. wizardeyes: If the Umbers march with the Boltons then they’ll be the turn cloaks ready to turn on the Boltons during the battle.

      Not necessarily. It is more probable that their plan would be to turn on the Boltons after the battle. After all, as big of a problem as the Boltons are, the Wildlings historically have been a much bigger problem. And the Umbers would probably think that they need the Boltons to help defeat the Wildlings.

      Real history is littered with this sort of thing happening. Just look at WWII: the US, UK and USSR spent the last two years of the war not just working to defeat Germany, but to then take on the USSR or US/UK afterwards.

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    30. Total fun. Can’t wait to see how the Bran/BR/CotF/WW dynamic unfolds, especially BR’s ultimate agenda. No way is Bran safe at weirnet central, or in his visions. Damn, the northern stories are going to be extremely interesting.

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    31. mariamb: That’s probably correct. So I will ask again: why release it without any hype?

      heh, the point of a commercial is to generate “hype” for a product: one does not “hype” commercials themselves! Now, commercials and trailers have started to get “hyped” because of sites like this. (I think that this started with Phantom Menace 17 years ago.) However, that is from pre-existing fandoms amplifying the hype into it’s own hype. So, I guess that is sort of hype squared or residual hype or the Great Pumpkin or something like that….

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    32. wizardeyes,

      The real answer is probably that the writers were probably not sure the Umbers would feature much later. From another point of view, perhaps the Smalljon didn’t want to give up a bargaining chip so soon.

      I think you’re setting yourself up for disappointment if that’s the case. It’s a hope based entirely almost on the books.

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    33. Hoyti Von Totiy: Why would Bran leave his “friend” Blackraven unless …:

      http://postimg.org/image/bgca593rx/

      Blackraven is Night´s king or is directly controlling him by warging.

      There are several alternative hypotheses. One, Bran might be riding a horse in a vision. (There was no indication that he was “crippled”: and the fact that he is crippled means that he cannot easily ride a horse.) Two, if he is really riding a horse, then perhaps it is because the WW have sacked that Old God’s sanctuary. Who knows, perhaps the NK grabbing Bran is linked to their ability to invade. Of course, it could be that Bran is seeing this through the eyes of someone in the past, and the NK grabbed that person, too.

      In other words, there are so many possible explanations for what we’ve seen that to conclude anything other than the very basics (Bran will experience interactions with the NK, see himself on a horse, etc.).

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    34. The Dragon Demands:
      I wonder if Yara and Theon will take Victarion’s place….I won’t miss Victarion, I’m just concerned about Yara and Theon — will this drastically change their storylines?Problem is that we really don’t know what they’re going to do in the next novel, so we have no way of judging if it is really a drastic change or not.

      I think the Yara kiss in the first trailer was happening in Essos, so yep on the Yara (Asha) and probably Theon taking the Victarion storyline.

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    35. All praise be to Manu! Great work bringing us these exciting images! I am beyond happy that finally the first awesome picture of my boy Drogon has surfaced! He looks like a boss and such a cool image.

      I wonder what Jaqen is telling Arya?

      Brienne looks fierce!

      And of course, Tyrion meeting his other “nephews” for the first time! 😀

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    36. The Drowned Goddess:I’m not doubting the authenticity, just wondering how, if you can pause, rewind, replay, and take photos, why not rewind and play, and record?

      AND he says he’s too lazy to write about the dialogue between the High Sparrow and Tommen? That sounds all very strange to me… maybe Manu isn’t just an innocent watcher ;-). Smells like a nice marketing coup by HBO to me.

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    37. The Dragon Demands,

      I could see the show version being:
      -Yara + Theon attend Kingsmoot, lose to Euron
      -They flee across the Narrow Sea, hear about Dany, go to join her, hoping she will help them overthrow Euron

      Compared to the book versions where:
      -Asha attends the Kingsmoot, loses to Euron
      -Flees North, gets captured and reunited with Theon, and plans to return to the Islands with Theon to re-press her claim

      Those two plots seem to map onto each other well enough. Defeat, exile, return; the show version just puts the Victarion plot into Yara’s exile period, at the cost of cutting her Stannis plot.

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    38. afeastfordances:
      The Dragon Demands,

      I could see the show version being:
      -Yara + Theon attend Kingsmoot, lose to Euron
      -They flee across the Narrow Sea, hear about Dany, go to join her, hoping she will help them overthrow Euron

      Compared to the book versions where:
      -Asha attends the Kingsmoot, loses to Euron
      -Flees North, gets captured and reunited with Theon, and plans to return to the Islands with Theon to re-press her claim

      Those two plots seem to map onto each other well enough. Defeat, exile, return; the show version just puts the Victarion plot into Yara’s exile period, at the cost of cutting her Stannis plot.

      Yep, it’d be a way of collapsing the two plots into one and giving it to characters the audience already knows rather than introducing a brand new character (ie Victarion)

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    39. afeastfordances,

      I think that is also possible that in the show it will be Yara’s idea to go to Dany. They will find some reason. To save hers and Theon’s life? To find powerful allies against Euron?

      I still don’t think that we will see a dragon horn in the show.

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    40. The Drowned Goddess: Also, regarding my first comment, I’m not doubting the authenticity, just wondering how, if you can pause, rewind, replay, and take photos, why not rewind and play, and record? Unless he had a Poloroid or old school camera…

      Well:

      @ManuclearBomb
      My favorite are the people mad at me that I didn’t take a video in my sleepy haze watchersonthewall.com/mysterious-new…

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    41. George: Yep, it’d be a way of collapsing the two plots into one and giving it to characters the audience already knows rather than introducing a brand new character (ie Victarion)

      I agree. And this will be the case when the show will be more powerful than the books.
      Introducing Vic in S6 and sending him to Dany wouldn’t do anything for the audience.

      But Yara, and Theon there? It will be powerful and memorable. It will show that everything is really coming together in the show.

      I think it will be yet another great change from the books.

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    42. I thanked him on twitter, but in case he’s reading: Thank you so much, Manu!!! You are awesome for doing this for a desperate fandom!!

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    43. afeastfordances: and plans to return to the Islands with Theon to re-press her claim

      Interesting possible sync with Theon/Yara but that last “book” bit is pure speculation, assuming Stannis does indeed perish by betrayal or Bolton/Frey attacks and T & Y indeed escape alive during the chaos.

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    44. I think that in the scene with HS Jaime will finally find out about Cersei’ affair with Lancel.

      I also think that the reason why we saw cCesrei and Jaime so close in the trailer is because D&D want to show their “good times” before their break-up. The last time they were close was S4E10 and that was long ago for general audience.

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    45. cosca: I think you’re setting yourself up for disappointment if that’s the case. It’s a hope based entirely almost on the books.

      The books do not set up that hope. There,

      Jon tells Stannis that if he (Stannis) has Wildlings in his army, then the Umbers will attack Stannis’ army regardless of what Stannis says that his intentions are.

      As for the show not mentioning things because they were not sure if actors would re-appear, that would not be the reason. The showrunners know that the audience is not going to remember minor characters for any length of time. So, who they mention in passing is not that important: if a conversation needs names of off-screen minor characters, then it’s pretty much all the same to the audience.

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    46. Hodors Bastard: assuming Stannis does indeed perish by betrayal or Bolton/Frey attacks and T & Y indeed escape alive during the chaos.

      I would be surprised if they do not escape. After all, GRRM went to a lot of pain to get not one, but two PoV characters into Stannis camp: and two that would not feel obliged to go down with the ship (a la Davos). This way we can read about it without GRRM needing yet another PoV character.

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    47. mau: This is the key. We are not sure that Rickon is with the Umbers.

      We have no reason to suspect otherwise. That is where they were headed when last we saw Osha & Bran: and that makes this idea vastly more probable than any other.

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    48. mau:
      I still don’t think that we will see a dragon horn in the show.

      I thought the horn was out for a long time, but with the Ironborn mission to Dany seemingly back on, albeit modified, something about that whole plotline must be sufficiently important to the endgame to make it into the show, seeing as Asha and Theon are rather unlikely to be journeying there in the book. It’s not the ships (after the number of ships in Dany’s fleet in Season 4 caused a lot of us to conclude the whole Ironborn thing was off entirely), and it can’t have anything to do with Victarion’s personality, seeing as Yara and Theon are very different characters (and neither of them are going to want to marry Dany, which is what Victarion wants). That would seem to leave us with the dragonhorn.

      The horn is some unclear part of Euron’s plan in the books. Euron’s in the show. So is Sam’s Oldtown plot, which a lot of people have speculated will dovetail with this particular magic story in some way.

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    49. George: If this is after the Wildlings find out about Jon getting killed, I foresee a short lifespan for Alliser Thorne and his cohorts…maybe they come in to help Davos while he’s fending them off with Longclaw…LOL

      It’s night time when Wun Wun is busting through the gate, so I’d bet this happens while Jon is still dead. I hope he pulls apart some ‘brothers’ limb from limb like he did the wights at Hardhome.

      George: Someone please record it!!! LOL

      I set the DVR to record both NCAA games tonight. I’ll fast forward through all of it later tonight. That’s about 6 hours worth – I hope the promo airs. *fingers crossed*

      tkk,

      Yes, I thought of that Reddit post when I read the line in the EW article. Things that make me go “hmmmm”.

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    50. mau:
      I think that in the scene with HS Jaime will finally find out about Cersei’ affair with Lancel

      I think this makes a lot of sense and would partly explain why after this (episode 6?) He forgets his “it’s us against the world and we’re getting it all back” speech in the trailer and he goes off away from her into the “show version” of the Riverrun Siege plot in eps 7 & 8 (presumably at the behest of Kevan Lannister?)

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    51. Re- Ban I wonder if being in vision state makes him able to be sensed by other weird beings. So NK could be able to insert himself in Bran’s visions. Bran is able to interact with BR in his visions. Kind of like having your vision hacked.

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    52. mau: I think that in the scene with HS Jaime will finally find out about Cersei’ affair with Lancel.

      Oh! That’s gonna burn! Jaime abandons her, goes off, perhaps Tommen dies, and then, Cersei goes totally mad. Sets fire to KL. That would be a good arc for her this season.

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    53. Dvd C.,

      Thank you sooooo much!
      I can’t understand what HS is saying to Tommen!

      mau,
      But KL being in S7, does not preclude the Red Keep, or parts of the city from burning. In her vision, Daenerys visited KL and the Keep, though it was just a burnt-out husk. It will probably sustain horrible damage, but barely survive.

      Is Drogon following the Dothraki when they have Daenerys captive? And does she know sonny boy is keeping watch from the sky? 😀

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    54. mau,

      I’m hoping that, if Theon actually gains power, he will arrive with help during the last minutes of Snowbowl. At least some Ironborn must be pissed at the Boltons for flaying several of them.

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    55. GreenChili,

      What’s wrong with you people? Here it is, this guy does this very nice thing for the fandom and you’re trying to attach something sinister to his efforts.

      I for one have been following his tweets since last night and for most of the day today.

      THANK YOU MANU – YOUR THE BEST.

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    56. Kargaryen,

      Holy crap that shot of Drogon looks awesome.

      Since the visual effects guys said the dragons will double in size this season (Emilia said the same thing), I wonder if that means they will have their “adult” scales. In the season 5 commentary D&D said Drogon was injured in the pit because he doesn’t have his impenetrable adult scales yet. I mean, doubling in size is a pretty serious growth spurt. I inagine that growth spurt would include thicker scales.

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    57. Kay,

      I’m having a hard time understanding HS too. Best I can make out, it’s “We are sinful creatures. We deserve death. We all kill.” But I’m not 100% about a few words, especially ‘sinful.’

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    58. Brienne definitely saves at least Theon from the Bolton soldiers. He is on the far right side of the screen when she hacks at the guy on a horse.

      LOL, Wun Wun destroys those CB gates. He is pissed. Can’t wait!

      Poor Theon has tears running down his cheeks. Still can’t make out who is standing in front of him. But it’s most likely Yara.

      Is that King’s Guard at the ToJ taking on 3 of Ned’s men. Holy moly!

      And Drogon looks magnificent!

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    59. New Lines of dialogue:

      “We are all sinful creatures, we all deserve death. We all kill.”- High Sparrow

      “One way or another, The Gift will be given; one way or another a new face will be added to the Hall”-Jaqen

      Oh, and the first part of Tyrion’s “great game” thingy is new “Are you afraid, you should be…”

      The Dragon POV shots look very nice, even with low resolution, LOL.

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    60. Kay:

      mau,
      But KL being in S7, does not preclude the Red Keep, or parts of the city from burning.

      I don’t think that burning only RK serves much purpose in the story. And D&D said that that scene from S7 was intended to be in the throne room, so no, even RK won’t burn in S6.

      I think that KL will be burned to the ground at the end of S7.

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    61. thornofhighgarden,
      George,
      Thanks for clearing up the dialogue.

      Drogon is stunning!

      Will Castle Black be totally torn apart by Wun Wun’s wrath? Everyone who was against Jon torn from limb to limb? I so hope he makes it to the end of the series!

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    62. El-Bobbie,

      I think by the time he shows up again his scales will be impenetrable yeah. But regardless, he’ll show up at Vaes Dothrak and they can’t carry any sword there. He’ll do some serious damage there if, as expected, he shows up. Unlike against the SoTH, there the Dothraki won’t have anything to hurt him. We’re going to witness the biggest barbecue yet this season lol

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    63. I’m actually veryyy pleasantly surprised about the Nights King grabbing Bran’s arm. I really did figure that they were just making it look like he saw Bran, without it actually being true. I didn’t think I could get any more excited for 24 April, and yet here I am. Thanks, Manu!

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    64. Sean C.,

      “In some way” being that both stories have a dragonhorn….

      As far as what it means for these storylines, I agree. Since they decided to include Sam’s trip to Oldtown, I feel his story has to include the mysticism of the dragon horn, and hopefully the dragon glass candles.

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    65. Wun Wun must be pissed! Maybe he really liked Jon Snow and got pissed about him being killed by his “fellow” Night’s Watch “brothers”.

      Cant wait to see Wun Wun kick some more ass! GET HYPE.

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    66. I wonder is they aren’t showing Drogon fully close up because they want to save how big he is for the Season.

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    67. In the beginning with that quick clip of Tyrion drinking wine, is that Grey Work in the room with him?

      Also, no Euron in the tv spot 🙁

      I hope they play this before Vinyl on Sunday night.

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    68. Baenerys:
      Guys I have a theory: (SPOILERS, btw)

      In the books, wasn’t Victarion Greyjoy attacking Mereen by the end of book 5? So, for the Ironborn storyline this season, the first part could be the kingsmoot. You know, meet the new characters, do the kingsmoot itself, and some more character building. THEN – in the 1st trailer, if you caught it, there was a millisecond shot of a bunch of ships at sea in a storm. This could only be the Iron Fleet. Now, if they somewhat carry the storyline from the book, Euron (instead of Victarion) could be sailing to Mereen to try and marry Daenerys or take one of her dragons. This would be super cool, and after all the Battle of Slavers bay stuff is over and IF Daenerys beats the ironborn or makes some sort of alliance with them, she would have tons of ships for travelling to Westeros.
      What do you think?

      The scene with the ships and the stormy night looks like it’s Euron arriving at the II. The other scene in the trailer has him taking his hood off and it’s dark and storming on the rope bridge.

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    69. Wun Wun crashing gates of CB seems interesting. Wildlings will hear about Jon and make quick work with nationalists. Hopefully we’re not going to spend more episodes with Thorne, what to do with Wildlings and this stuff. Jon needs to be resurrected fairly early on. They cab spend one episoded with all the tension between loyalists and nationalists resulting in Thoenr and co killed. Seems like Wildlings care about Jon and not gonna be happy about it.

      Umbers siding with Boltons makes sense beacuse of wildlings but real question is if they’re gonna betray Starks and hand Rickon to Boltons.

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    70. Connor: After seeing Drogon moving in that amazing shot, he does look bigger.

      Wasn’t it just a short while ago that he had just hatched, and stood on Daenerys’ shoulder, fluffing up his little wings and screaming at the Dothraki in Season 1? 😀 Well, Drogon meets the Dothraki again in Season 6!

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    71. Is it just my imagination or that giant is a white?Look at the cold blue snow behind him,just like hardhome when the whyte-walker apeared in the house were jon was.. 🙂

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    72. Thanks to everyone for all their hard work! There are three other images from the new footage which you don’t have screen shots of at the moment (Dany, Cersei and Tyrion). They are from the end bit where it all goes by really fast. I only got them by watching it on 1/4 speed (which you can set it to play at on Youtube) and hitting pause repeatedly. They are here, but feel free to stick them into the post if you’d like too 😀

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    73. Jack Bauer 24,

      Yeah, most likely.

      I wonder how much bigger Drogon will be than Rhaegal and Viserion. The books make it clear that a dragon kept in confined places will not grow as big as a dragon out in the wild or one who is able to fly freely. I wonder if the show will stick to that.

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    74. Lulus Mum:
      Thanks to everyone for all their hard work! There are three other images from the new footage which you don’t have screen shots of at the moment (Dany, Cersei and Tyrion). They are from the end bit where it all goes by really fast. I only got them by watching it on 1/4 speed (which you can set it to play at on Youtube) and hitting pause repeatedly. They are here, but feel free to stick them into the post if you’d like too

      There’s also the bit in the beginning with Tyrion drinking wine and looks like Grey Worm in the room with him.

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    75. Geralt of Rivia: Umbers siding with Boltons makes sense beacuse of wildlings but real question is if they’re gonna betray Starks and hand Rickon to Boltons.

      The US felt no obligation to share the A-bomb with the Soviets while they were allies against the Germans. Why would the Umbers feel any obligation to give Rickon to the Boltons?

      Geralt of Rivia: Hopefully we’re not going to spend more episodes with Thorne, what to do with Wildlings and this stuff. Jon needs to be resurrected fairly early on

      These are two separate issues. Yes, Jon needs to be revived by the beginning of Episode 2. However, they do not need to have the Nationalist vs. Loyalist issue resolved then. There is a lot that they could do to drive Jon’s portion of the story if he is on the lam from the Night Watch, and if part of what Jon has to overcome during the season is the stigma of being both traitor and deserter.

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    76. That really looks like what we’ve seen as the main gate to Castle Black in that Wun Wun shot, so…is he breaking down TWO gates this season or what?

      I just hope Wun Wun doesn’t become to Jon Snow what the eagles were to the Lord of the Rings protagonists.

      The shot that hyped me the most was the Night’s King grabbing Bran’s arm. It sure looked like he saw Bran in the last trailer, so this seems to confirm that, along with the added revelation that, not only can he be detected, he can also be touched…which when we’re talking Game of Thrones means he can also be hurt.

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    77. Jack Bauer 24,
      Thanks for that! As people had mentioned it in the comments I forgot there wasn’t a screen shot. I’ll stick it on with the others 😀

      Edit: no I won’t it won’t let me add an image once I’ve shared them and is telling me I have to wait an hour before I can upload another image. Unfortunately it’s 2.30am here and I really have to go to bed, but at least that Tyrion shot is in the normal speed section at the beginning of the trailer so people can see it fairly easily.

      Night all catch up with you tomorrow 😀 zzzzzz

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    78. HousePotterz,

      In season 3, Catelyn also grabbed Bran and even pushed him of the tree. Jojen also interacted with Bran and supposedly also could touch himt. I think he’s safe in his visions.

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    79. Wimsey: The US felt no obligation to share the A-bomb with the Soviets while they were allies against the Germans.Why would the Umbers feel any obligation to give Rickon to the Boltons?

      That’s a good point, but I feel like the Umbers are not going to be that involved in the story. Also, how would they feel about having to fight the Mormonts and the Hornwoods? If they wanted to destroy the Wildlings during the battle, wouldn’t that mean that the other houses get wiped out too?

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    80. Geralt of Rivia,

      I was thinking The white one for Jon, which left the green on for Tyrion … or as you suggest, someone else entirely (Bran?)

      I just really REALLY want Tyrion to ride a dragon 🙂

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    81. That’s definitely Castle Black gates. And if I remember correctly…

      When the report hit about a giant smashing through the Winterfell gates after the battle, Jon, Sansa, Littlefinger, Ramsay are present and the report was “the people inside have to fight it off.”

      One, with this shot in the trailer, since I don’t think Wun Wun is coming to help Thorne kill Davos and Ghost we can make an educated guess that Wun Wun is probably on Jon’s side. So then, why would Wun Wun randomly smash through the Winterfell gates in what sounds like an all out attack on everyone inside and not jut one person (Ramsay) given the report “the people inside have to fight it off”?

      Two, people can bash David and Dan for their writing all they want, but it’s wrong. They are good writers. This shot in the trailer is not something they’d repeat. If it was just plain old normal Wun Wun smashing through the Winterfell gates it’d be a direct copy of what’s in this trailer. What’s the point? They’re just not going to repeat the same plot line 8 or 9 episodes later. If he is to smash through two gates in one season, something significantly different the second time will happen.

      I think it is Wight Wun Wun at Winterfell. I can’t come to any other conclusion. There are no other Giants. Why else would they have him repeat the same action twice in one season? Why would the “the people inside have to fight it off”?

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    82. Great stuff, obviously we see BR able to interact/touch Bran during the “Weir Tree” visions, so fascinating to see the NK is a bit like BR and able to do the same

      Should give some fascinating insight as to whether there is a Weir Tree system in LoAW or if their magical systems criss-cross etc.

      Could just be using the same Castle Black gate set for Winterfell?

      Seems to be a lot of focus around Ramsay at the battle, instead of Roose. Could be that it is character driven, eg have Ramsay/JS rivalry arc, and a Rickon/Sansa rivalry arc. Though tbf I wouldn’t be surprised if Rickon gets killed because a) nothing is ever straightforward with ASOIF/GoT and b) Rickon death sets up a rivalry between JS and Sansa and the North and the RL

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    83. I’ve been watching GoT repeats (for the umpteenth time!) on Sky Atlantic on which HBO airs its programs for the UK (I live in Spain btw) and so far seen ‘Jack Squat’ regarding trailers or teasers for S6. This evening they showed S4 episodes 06/07.

      I don’t know if HBO has its own channel in the USA or puts out its shows on other networks? However, I reckon its piss-poor that still nothing has appeared on Sky Atlantic 🙁

      I want to see this stuff on a BIG TV screen and not on a 19″ PC flat screen monitor 😉

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    84. WQhy cant he smash through 2 gates?…he’s a giant ffs…what better use can a giant be than a battering ram
      First he bashes down the cb gates because the wildlings are on jons side…cuz he saved them…then when they go south for the botb he goes with them obviously and ends up smashing wf gates
      The first will prolly be in episode one…the second in episode 9

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    85. tiny direwolf,

      I think the white one for Tyrion. Viserion is actually cream colored and gold, with eyes like molten gold. Also, when his egg cracked in the pyre, Dany heard a roar. That all points to Tyrion. If Jon gets a dragon, I imagine it would be more fitting if he got the one named after his father. I prefer Bran as Rhaegal’s rider though.

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    86. jymion,

      But why would Wun Wun need to smash CB’s gates? He’s already inside. Are you saying he somehow leaves CB, they lock him out, and then he comes back to smash the gate in?

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    87. The truly mysterious element in this video, to me, was the ghostly figure who kept appearing in what looked like a modern room, peering through what appeared to be binoculars. Took me a while to figure out that it was the reflection in the TV screen of the guy filming the trailer off his TV set!

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    88. Tiny direwolf,

      I thought the same thing! At least that’s what I’m really hoping.

      Tyrion riding a dragon all Atreyu style needs to happen. Also something about Rhaegal’s green coloring and his name make him my favorite dragon I’ve decided. 😀

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    89. he wasn’t in cb dopey

      El-Bobbie:
      jymion,

      But why would Wun Wun need to smash CB’s gates? He’s already inside. Are you saying he somehow leaves CB, they lock him out, and then he comes back to smash the gate in?

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    90. And before anyone says how would he know what happened to js.
      Maybe bran saw it through ghost then warged into wun wun.
      they say those giants are as dumb as hodor right?

      You heard it here first….:)

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    91. And what happens to Ghost if Jon gets one of the dragons, that’s what I wonder. if the price for Jon getting a dragon is Ghost dying I don’t want it to happen. Better the other two dragons go to Tyrion and Bran.

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    92. LOL Me. I recorded 6 hours of NCAA tournaments in the hopes of catching the promo ‘cuz I wanted to watch it in HD. I spent 20 minutes fast-forwarding through all that nonsense only to come up empty. I saw plenty of commercials for Batman vs. Superman, The Junglebook, and even The Walking Dead, but no GoT.

      The best I can figure is that the promo is only playing in certain regions. The guy who uploaded it to YT appears to be in Southern CA. I’m in Northern CA. I wonder where the other people who’ve seen the promo live. Whatever’s going on, I’m done watching TBS programming. The YT video will have to be enough for now.

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    93. Are we sure that Theon makes it through? That looks like it could be Ramsay with his hand on Theon’s shoulder while he’s crying.

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    94. jymion,

      That’s why its better that dragons belong with someone who actually did something’s to bring them to life and suffered losses of the lives of her own husband child and brother ..

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    95. jymion,

      That’s why its better that dragons belong with someone who actually did something’s to bring them to life and suffered losses of the lives of her own husband child and brother ..it’s fair right

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    96. Dragonbringer

      It is different. He’s not going to be physically able to fly a dragon. He will be able to fly by possessing its mind.

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    97. Can someone please transcribe what are they saying in the trailer?

      It’s hard to understand without subtitles.

      Thanks!

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    98. LordDavos,

      Still too much power for one individual…
      I hate the idea of warging a dragon….you see warging is not mutal …control taken over one unwillingly. Whereas the dragonbonding is a mutual…both dragon and dragon rider have their bond….you see the effects of warging on hodor..there is only one who has bonded with them since they are eggs ..and still have that bond.

      The dragon chooses the rider ..

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    99. Fedejru:
      Can someone please transcribe what are they saying in the trailer?

      It’s hard to understand without subtitles.

      Thanks!

      Someone already did upthread:

      George:
      New Lines of dialogue:

      “We are all sinful creatures, we all deserve death. We all kill.”- High Sparrow

      “One way or another, The Gift will be given; one way or another a new face will be added to the Hall”-Jaqen

      Oh, and the first part of Tyrion’s “great game” thingy is new “Are you afraid, you should be…”

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    100. Firannion:
      The truly mysterious element in this video, to me, was the ghostly figure who kept appearing in what looked like a modern room, peering through what appeared to be binoculars. Took me a while to figure out that it was the reflection in the TV screen of the guy filming the trailer off his TV set!

      I thought it was Brienne looking for more damn candles!

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    101. George,

      I believe Tormund talks first with “Are you afraid, you should be …”

      I’m also surprised by Drogon … he looks bigger … maybe it will take some time to find his mother.

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    102. ATrueFool,

      You may be right! Actually, that’s what I heard the first few times I watched it, too. But then I started to hear a distinct “K” sound. But I’m far from certain about it. I’d buy either version, and yours makes more sense.

      Hopefully we’ll get a better version and the words will be easier to make out!

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    103. El-Bobbie: on 5 commentary D&D said Drogon was injured in the pit

      dragons skin isn’t impenetrable. in the books many are killed with arrows to the body and they were huge adults. You have watched too much the hobbit.

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    104. Big thanks Manu – a man appreciates this endeavour.

      I’m most excited for ToJ this season – the fact that it has featured in trailers suggests to me that it is going to be fairly prominent, as flashbacks go, and its significance played up to maximum.

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    105. jymion,

      Agree. “The great game” is the game of thrones, and there’s no one else around Tyrion who is a contender for the throne. I’m curious as to when Dany and Tyrion reunite. I hope it’s not till the very end.

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    106. hey…….I just thought of who could be the 3rd and why….theon…because after

      he gets back to the iron islands and after the kingsmoot…..yara and theon steal eurons horn and hi tail it to meereen……and theon get a dragon with his horn
      no not that horn….he lost that horn..
      the other one…..the dragon horn

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    107. Tiny direwolf,

      Can you tell me why you think it will be Rhaegel? I’m guessing the 2 dragons do have differences in personalities, in the books. How do Rhagael and Viserion (SP) differ?

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    108. jymion:
      And before anyone says how would he know what happened to js.
      Maybe bran saw it through ghost then warged into wun wun.
      they say those giants are as dumb as hodor right?

      You heard it here first….:)

      He can speak and is pretty much a person. Pretty sure bran cannot warg in him. Hodor is pretty much a moneky. Also why are people thinking that bran knows everything? It is obviously not how it works.

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    109. Thanks to people who got the stills and the video to us netizens. Now all I need is the episode titles and I’ll be happy to wait until the premiere.

      One way or another, the Gift will be given–one way or another the new video will be posted to the Internet.

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    110. BunBunStark,

      Yes, which is why Thorne and co. were short-sighted fools for killing the LC after the Wildlings were let through. Jon was the only one they would have even a modicum of trust and respect for there at the moment so what did the NW think would happen when they got rid of the middle man? Was there plan maybe to play it off, act all nicey-nice and then slaughter as many Wildlings as they could?

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    111. it was probably his job to keep the ww’s at bay all these years…but now his mind is failing him….he needs someone to take over with a stronger mind than his…hence calling bran…if he can keep the ww’s at bay then that’s some pretty powerful shit….so i’m gueesing sooner or later bran will be able to do anything…he warged hodor as a r00kie…now he’s had his teachings….theres no reason he cant …they even said u have to be really powerful to do it

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    112. Black Raven:
      I’ve been watching GoT repeats (for the umpteenth time!)on Sky Atlantic on which HBO airs its programs for the UK (I live in Spain btw) and so far seen ‘Jack Squat’ regarding trailers or teasers for S6.This evening they showed S4 episodes 06/07.

      I don’t know if HBO has its own channel in the USA or puts out its shows on other networks? However, I reckon its piss-poor that still nothing has appeared on Sky Atlantic

      I want to see this stuff on a BIG TV screen and not on a 19″ PC flat screen monitor

      I’ve seen the trailer play before Vinyl the past few weeks on HBO GO. I also saw the trailer on HBO after a movie aired earlier this week. It was a shortened version though. It didn’t have the Davos bit at the end.

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    113. I don’t think that’s a Giant Wight. Aren’t those wildings behind it looking like they are about to charge with it?

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    114. I’m dreading this season now. If the Umbers hand Rickon to the Boltons….oh boy.

      Loved Wun Wun’s shot and Bran with the WW. I hope we get Dark Sister.

      By the way, are there 3 Kingsguards at the Tower of Joy on the show?

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    115. mau,

      Imagine Theon makes a marriage proposal to Dany in return for the Iron Fleet, she accepts, she marries him, and then on their wedding night, she has an “oh shit” moment.

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    116. afeastfordances:
      The Dragon Demands,

      I could see the show version being:

      -Yara + Theon attend Kingsmoot, lose to Euron
      -They flee across the Narrow Sea, hear about Dany, go to join her, hoping she will help them overthrow Euron

      Compared to the book versions where:
      -Asha attends the Kingsmoot, loses to Euron
      -Flees North, gets captured and reunited with Theon, and plans to return to the Islands with Theon to re-press her claim

      Those two plots seem to map onto each other well enough. Defeat, exile, return; the show version just puts the Victarion plot into Yara’s exile period, at the cost of cutting her Stannis plot.

      I’ve got one question regarding this whole plot. If Euron

      wins Kingsmoot, wouldn’t the Iron Fleet be under his control? In the books, the Iron Fleet is under Victarion’s control, but he doesn’t exist on the show and there has been no suggestion so far on the show that Yara controls the Iron Fleet. So if Yara and Theon were to go to Meereen, they have no fleet to offer her (except one or two ships on which they sail) so what sort of bargaining power will they have with Dany? “Give us your dragons because we offer you… two ships” ?? That doesn’t make sense.

      But having said that, I do believe Yara and Theon will make it to Meereen.

      Tyrion and Theon have met before in Season 1. Through Theon, Tyrion would know everything that happened in Season 5 in Winterfell with Sansa and Ramsay. It’ll be interesting if Tyrion decides to rescue his wife, or doesn’t bother because they never loved each other anyway.

      By the way, it would be good for Theon’s self-esteem to see all the Unsullied.

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    117. The wolves will come again: In the books, the Iron Fleet is under Victarion’s control, but he doesn’t exist on the show and there has been no suggestion so far on the show that Yara controls the Iron Fleet. So if Yara and Theon were to go to Meereen, they have no fleet to offer her (except one or two ships on which they sail) so what sort of bargaining power will they have with Dany? “Give us your dragons because we offer you… two ships” ?? That doesn’t make sense.

      Well, didn’t she command like 30 ships in season two, who she always insisted would be loyal to her to the very end? It may not be Victarion’s Iron Fleet, which are about 90 ships, but it’s something. Besides, Dany already has the Meereenese Navy, which is composed of 93 ships (not a coincidence; it basically replaced the Iron Fleet for her in the show).

      Also, I don’t think Yara and Theon will be “demanding” Dany’s dragons, unlike the soon-to-be-dead idiot that is Victarion. If Theon and Yara go East to meet Dany, I’m sure they’ll be offering an alliance, not a demand; we help you with your conquest of Westeros, you make us Lords/Kings of the Iron Islands.

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    118. Ygritte,

      In the books there are several differences in personality. From what I can remember:

      – Rhaegal is more aggressive, and Selmy thinks he’s the more dangerous dragon. It took several days to chain him in the pyramid and he burned a lot of people in the process.
      – Viserion is a bit more attached to Dany than Rhaegal is, he’s always sitting on her shoulder (when he was smaller) and he seeks Dany a couple times when he’s visited in the pit. But at several points all 3 dragons have been able to sense Dany’s moods or worries.
      – There’s several instances of Viserion and Rhaegal fighting, so maybe foreshadowing of their riders fighting.
      – Dany calls Viserion lazy.

      That’s all I can recall for now.

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    119. afeastfordances:
      The Dragon Demands,

      I could see the show version being:

      -Yara + Theon attend Kingsmoot, lose to Euron
      -They flee across the Narrow Sea, hear about Dany, go to join her, hoping she will help them overthrow Euron

      Compared to the book versions where:
      -Asha attends the Kingsmoot, loses to Euron
      -Flees North, gets captured and reunited with Theon, and plans to return to the Islands with Theon to re-press her claim

      Those two plots seem to map onto each other well enough. Defeat, exile, return; the show version just puts the Victarion plot into Yara’s exile period, at the cost of cutting her Stannis plot.

      Victarion and his plot is off the show imho, I don’t think we need yet another character to go to Essos, I’d rather have all the ones in Essos come to Westeros.
      Plus, i don’t want Euron’s election to be legit, but that plot too will probably be left out of the show.

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    120. I don’t like the idea of anyone using a horn to control a dragon or warging one. That Dany’s line “a dragon is not a slave” is too strong, and both horn and warging don’t sound as if the dragon and dragon rider would have any kind of bond, the dragon would just be manipulated and I hate that idea.

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    121. lp,

      There’s another possibility. Ramsay kills Tormund in battle (or burns him on the cross) and Wun Wun sees it. Wun Wun is technically a wildling so Tormund is his leader. Now Wun Wun wants revenge on Ramsay.

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    122. lalla,

      But Euron is going to be on the show, and his main thing is that he wants the throne, with Dany as his queen and her dragons. To do that he sends Victarion to retrieve her. If the show eliminated Victarion then there HAS to be some other way for Euron to send after Dany. I think Theon and Yara are the likely contenders for that task.

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    123. George: I think this makes a lot of sense and would partly explain why after this (episode 6?) He forgets his “it’s us against the world and we’re getting it all back” speech in the trailer and he goes off away from her into the “show version” of

      the Riverrun Siege plot in eps 7 & 8 (presumably at the behest of Kevan Lannister?)

      Or maybe the conversation with the High Sparrow takes part much earlier in the season, during Myrcella’s funeral and is the “We can overthrown an empire” speech from the trailer. Also, it won’t be hard for Jaime to learn about Lancel. The whole King’s Landing knows and Cersei will have to explain about the haircut and the whole Sparrows thing to him when he arrives back.

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    124. So many of our favorites looking hassled and haggard except that sob Ramsay. Cannot imagine the demise planned for him.

      Thanks Manu!

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    125. I keep coming back to the idea that there are 2 giants.

      In season 3 when Grenn and company kills the giant in the tunnel at Castle Black – Jon tells Sam to “burn all the bodies” when he leaves to “chat” with Mance Radar, who was big enough to burn a giant?

      Wun Wun will break down the gate at Castle Black and Mike the Mighty (now a WW) will break down the gate at Winterfell in the finale.

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    126. Vegodread:
      I keep coming back to the idea that there are 2 giants.

      In season 3 when Grenn and companykills the giant in the tunnel at Castle Black – Jon tells Sam to “burn all the bodies” when he leaves to “chat” with Mance Radar, who was big enough to burn a giant?

      Wun Wun will break down the gate at Castle Black and Mike the Mighty (now a WW) will break down the gate at Winterfell in the finale.

      Mag the Mighty died in Season 4.

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    127. I’m prety sure that giant is a white.Not sure if is Wun-wun or other giant that died and was turned a white by the Night King..You can see the cold coming from his direction…

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    128. aldeatcu,

      It is a giant.

      But there is a discrepancy regarding a filming spoiler that claims a giant will break down the gate at Winterfell. However, this giant is breaking down the gate at what looks like Castle Black.

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    129. El-Bobbie,

      I think my favorite is Viserion then 🙂 I don’t remember, why is it she bonds with Drogon the most? And for goodness’ sake how can she keep the other two locked up and expect them to thrive? I’d be afraid of them now if I were her!

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    130. Ygritte,

      Why she bonded with Drogon more is unknown, maybe she was just destined to be his rider. She dreams of him before he even hatches, he senses her moods more often. At one point she orgasms and he sort of screams right along with her lol. When he is injured with a spear, Dany and Drogon scream as one. When the eggs were hatched, his egg was placed right next to Drogo’s heart so maybe that’s why. There’s definitely a bond with all three though, they’ve all been able to sense when Dany is upset.

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    131. Sullied by Knight:
      Are we sure that Theon makes it through?That looks like it could be Ramsay with his hand on Theon’s shoulder while he’s crying.

      I’m pretty sure there was a spoiler last year

      that Theon was going to be at the Kingsmoot?

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    132. lalla: Victarion and his plot is off the show imho

      The woman kissing Yara doesn’t have an Iron Islands vibe at all, and there were spoilers last year that Yara and Theon were going to leave the Iron Islands after the Kingsmoot…

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    133. The wolves will come again,

      Haha. I can hear it now:
      “WHERE ARE MY HUSBAND’S MAN PARTS!”
      Theon: My queen, there is a thing I can do with my tongue.
      Dany: Is it what Lord’s do to their ladies?
      Theon: Perhaps, but even commoner’s have been known to do it.
      “I am the Queen! I will not have…Ohh…

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    134. Mag:
      George,

      I believe Tormund talks first with “Are you afraid, you should be …”

      Nope. The whole quote is “Are you afraid? You should be, you’re in the Great Game now, and the Great Game is terrifying…” It’s Tyrion.

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    135. Smalljon umber and his house will be on the bolting side. Umbers hate wildlings and have dealt with their threat the most of northern houses. Tormund will kill smalljon umber, putting a whole new context to tormund’s moniker; the giantsbane!

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    136. Everyone, you need to be covering spoilers!

      Things discussed in the post above are fine, it’s just a trailer, but filming and book spoilers absolutely have to be covered!

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    137. Ygritte:
      Tiny direwolf,

      Can you tell me why you think it will be Rhaegel? I’m guessing the 2 dragons do have differences in personalities, in the books. How do Rhagael and Viserion (SP) differ?

      IF there’s going to be a Dragon for Tyrion, it will surely be Viserion, with gold markings and “pools of molten gold” for eyes (Lannister gold, and all that). Plus, isn’t Viserion the smallest of the Dragons?

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    138. El-Bobbie,

      And they miss dany ..
      Remember when dany takes quentyn to the tombs they sense her near to them..
      And while quentyn tries to steal them the dragons mistook pretty merris( don’t remember the name exactly ) as dany and disappointed when she was not dany ..

      Ygritte,

      Well that’s actually what Ramsay asks theon or should I say reek to do on jeyne Poole( fake arya) ..make her get ready for Ramsay..

      The other thing dany can do his have theon watch darrio take dany” all the way a man can take a women ” like in the books…

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    139. Sorry, couldn’t edit my comment. Just listened to it again, and now I hear “kill” as well. They should just upload it on their YT channel and be done with it. I guess there is no cure for reading Kant after all.

      Oh whatever… Happy Easter everyone! Gonna hide some eggs now 🙂

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    140. Wylie:
      Sorry, couldn’t edit my comment. Just listened to it again, and now I hear “kill” as well. They should just upload it on their YT channel and be done with it. I guess there is no cure for reading Kant after all.

      Oh whatever… Happy Easter everyone! Gonna hide some eggs now

      Yeah, I heard “do” at first as well, but on several rehearings I started to hear the k and l sounds. Plus I think it makes more sense given the next quote by Jaqen, talking about “The Gift” and the Hall of Faces and such…

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    141. El-Bobbie,

      There are plenty of other thing Euron could do. He is just a person to do things, not a character of importance in and of himself. At any rate, that is one plot device from the books that they serm to be cutting: and, quitr frankly, it looks like a Numenorean sword to me.

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    142. Connor,

      That wouldn’t really make sense considering the horde wouldn’t have been marching Danerys and other prisoners for the amount of time it would take Drogon to grow.

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    143. I love the speculation regarding Theon/Yara taking over the Victarion plot. As someone noted above, I think having Theon meet The Unsullied, particularly Grey Worm, might change his thinking about what his life can be and get him onboard with fully embracing “Theon” again.

      I just checked the “extras” section of GoT On Demand on Xfinity and the last video uploaded was the prosthetics one. No dice on this goodie. I think/hope we’ll get one more trailer in the next 10 days or so that will add in flashes of Dorne, Horn Hill and some Lannister tents from outside RR to sate us hardcores. But yeah, at this point, I am good with what we’ve been given plus the episode titles. Titles will keep us all theorizing/fighting for a good 3-4 days.

      Happy Easter weekend to those who are into that… Happy regular weekend to all. Less than 30 days!!! 😀

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    144. That is so Castle Black that Wun Wun is breaking through, there are some wildlings behind him. I’m guessing they found out about Jons death and are upset. Looks like it may be the first episode. Liam Cunningham did say it picks right up from the first episode, right?

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    145. Sweet Jesus, of course the video version has to surface just after I go to sleep 😛

      “Are you afraid? You should be.” Who is talking there? At first it sounded like Tyrion, but I think it might be Max von Sydow (Bloodraven).

      “We’re sinful creatures, we deserve death. We all do.”

      High Sparrow is DEFINITELY gonna be converting Tommen.

      “One way or another, the gift will be given. One way or another, the face will be added to the hall.”

      Nothing to say about this one, except that that delivery is badass af.

      Is the shot of Drogon in slow motion, or is he actually so large that he’s moving this slowly?

      Wun Wun bursting through Castle Black reminded me of: “Have you ever seen a Giant, Ser Alliser?” Well you’re about to 😀

      BasBowl looks sweet as always.

      Official version now please, HBO.

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    146. jc,

      Thats true, but the VFX team have confirmed the dragons will be double the size they were last season. That means they’ll have a wingspan of 120 feet.

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    147. Luka Nieto: Also, I don’t think Yara and Theon will be “demanding” Dany’s dragons, unlike the soon-to-be-dead idiot that is Victarion. If Theon and Yara go East to meet Dany, I’m sure they’ll be offering an alliance, not a demand; we help you with your conquest of Westeros, you make us Lords/Kings of the Iron Islands.

      Given that

      Victarion has been eliminated, perhaps the purpose of the “dragon” horn, is that it will simply kill Vic

      . I agree that Theon and Yara are seeking an alliance and not assuming Vic’s plot; no one knows what Theon and his sister will be doing in later books. They may not go to Meereen, but it’s quite possible that somewhere, they will meet Daenerys and ally with her.

      Vegodread: Wun Wun will break down the gate at Castle Black and Mike the Mighty (now a WW) will break down the gate at Winterfell in the finale.

      Mag as a Wight? eeeek! That would be a cool twist!

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    148. If Dany arrives in Meereen with Drogon under her control I’m positive Rhaegal and Viserion will follow them. I’d be more worried about someone stealing a dragon using a horn or whatever.

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    149. tkk,

      Is there a way to record the trailer with 7.1 or at least 5.1? Having all those different audio tracks would be a tremendous treasure for video editors like me.

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    150. tiny direwolf,

      I don’t really want them to ride dragons as I can imagine it will be cheesy and I love Ghost. Meaning Jon would lose him. Don’t want him to get too attached to Targaryens, just to keep nice balance between his heritage of course if certain theory is what many fans think it is.

      One of Roose Bolton’s 20 good leeches,

      Really? It would be beter with high quality photos because I can’t see them. There is some shadow, you’re maybe right.

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    151. One of Roose Bolton’s 20 good leeches: Also, how would they feel about having to fight the Mormonts and the Hornwoods? If they wanted to destroy the Wildlings during the battle, wouldn’t that mean that the other houses get wiped out too?

      Do we know that the Mormonts and Hornwoods are fighting against the Boltons? The issue I have is, why would any of the Northerners align with the Wildlings? That is an ancient enmity: and people put aside new enmities when faced with old enemies. None of them have any reason to think that the Walkers are the ultimate problem: none of them have any reason to think that the Walkers are real, and unless they come up with a very clever way that the audience will buy that Jon can convince them of this, that does not look to be a way for Jon to do this. (One thing that we learned from the script for the final scene: none of those houses took Jon’s letters from the beginning of the season seriously.)

      The only “out” that I can see is if somehow the Hornwoods and Mormonts have not had issues with Wildlings in the past. However, if that were the case, then it really should have been made clear early that only some Northerners hate the Wildlings. I suppose that it is not quite too late to hang that gun on the wall, but it really does contradict a previously hung gun.

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    152. Geralt of Rivia: I don’t really want them to ride dragons as I can imagine it will be cheesy and I love Ghost. Meaning Jon would lose him.

      Neither of these assumptions need be true. In particular, why would this affect anything involving Ghost? In many ways, it would be no different from Jon being able to keep a horse and Ghost at the same time. That does not interfere with normal man-dog relationships: and because of Jon’s latent warg talents, the two already have a closer bond than typical between man and dog.

      Moreover, what if Jon’s assassination is the catalyst that gets him to start learning how to be a warg? After all, Bran’s talents really kick in as a result of him becoming crippled, and in the books

      Arya’s talents really start kicking in as a result of her becoming blind.

      If that happens, then the bond between Jon and Ghost will become much too strong for a dragon to get in the way.

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    153. Wimsey,

      Maybe they truly betrayed them. In the books Umbers are pro Stark and BigJon Umber is hostage. Karstarks have no reason to fight with Stark but Umbers are tricky. It’ safe to assume Rickon and Osha went there. Maybe they do Manderly twist on them and turn on them. But with Vale in the play.

      As for NW. I think loyalists vs nationalists will feature heavily in ep. 1 but as you can see from trailer Thorne and co wants Jon’s body, Davos is trying to defend it. Very episode 1 stuff. They clash, then we saw Wun Wun bursting gates of Castle Black with wildlings. That should be that episode or after that.. Meanwhile Mel and her resurrection attempts, maybe that’s why Thorne wants to get ride of Jon. They need to deal with it fairly early on because people want to see Jon. They can’t do this over the course of couple of episodes. Once wildlings breach the wall of Castle Black Thorne is done. They need to sort out this, post resurrection, set up battle.

      No reports of Ghost or should i say green stick or using dog for it at battle. You talk about Ghost and horse. We’re talking about two powerful creatures, far from usual horse. Simply it’s one or the other. Doubt very much he’ll direwolf and dragon.

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    154. joffreysbleedingeyes: Dragon-size and Baby-Sam-age are the paradoxes of the show

      Really, it’s only the baby’s size. Remember, Season 4 was on a few weeks: it happens over the time that it takes the Wildlings to get from where the crossed the Wall to Castle Black. The other seasons have taken about a year each: at every opportunity to refer to time, the show has referred to events from prior seasons as “years” ago.

      Basically, given the show’s timeline, the baby should (I think) be pushing 18-24 months by now. Of course, that’s also the age zone where NO TODDLERS ALLOWED applies: TV and film only uses infants or kids old enough to take instructions; toddlers are right out!

      As for the dragons, I am unaware of any hard data on how fast they can grow! My bet is: “fast.”

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    155. If Tyrion is to ride a dragon, I’d say Viserion seems the safe bet. He is described more than once as being much smaller than the other 2, even oddly so. He is also gold and they kept a line from the books in the show when Tyrion as Hand says “If I had a gold dragon…”. He’s talking of course about coins, but it could easily be a clever foreshadowing line.

      Rhaegal is interesting. Rhaegal is violent, angry, difficult to control. He snaps at Viserion more than once. I think it’s clear based on the way George is writing him, that Rhaegal desperately needs his rider. He’s lost without him/her and while he may always remain an aggressive fighter, he will likely be controllable when he bonds with his rider. Also of note I got the impression that Rhaegal is the most distant from Dany of the 3. Perhaps foreshadowing a dragon vs dragon showdown one day. It’s either Bran (warging him) or Jon outright riding him in my opinion. Technically could be both I guess.

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    156. Wimsey,

      I’m almost certain that they do. In that shot with the Bolton shields, we can see several Wildlings, but there are also some banners in the group. We know that Wildlings don’t carry banners.
      If I had to bet, I would say that the Mormonts and Hornwoods lost the most family members during the RW, and that will be their reason for choosing Jon and the Wildlings over the Boltons.
      Whatever happens, I’m sure it will be explained on the show. They really do seem to be upping the politics going on in the North, and all huge battles have had great build ups in the past.

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    157. mau:
      Game of Thrones – Anatomy of an Episode: Mother’s Mercy

      Thank you so much for this! Btw Have you also found the massacre of hardhome special by any chance?

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    158. Kargaryen:
      jc,

      Thats true, but the VFX team have confirmed the dragons will be double the size they were last season. That means they’ll have a wingspan of 120 feet.

      How do they double in size in just a few days? Season 6 takes place immediately after Season 5.

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    159. Geralt of Rivia: Maybe they truly betrayed them. In the books Umbers are pro Stark and BigJon Umber is hostage.

      In the books, the Umbers also are viciously anti-Wildling.

      (I seem to recall that one of the SmallJon’s daughters was killed or kidnapped in a Wildling raid, or something like that.) Jon warns Stannis of this: if Stannis has wildlings in his army, then the Umbers will attack Stannis.

      Jon warns Ygritte of this on the TV show: the Northerners all know all about the prior 6 Wildling invasions, and the prospect of a 7th invasion is a constant concern.

      Geralt of Rivia: Meanwhile Mel and her resurrection attempts, maybe that’s why Thorne wants to get ride of Jon

      Thorne would have no way to know that Melisandre can revive Jon. Her religion is largely unknown to the Westerosi. Davos might know about it: but why would Melisandre ever have told him? The two are not exactly chums, and Davos is not a fan of her religion.

      As for the rest, you are drawing way too many conclusions from a trailer! Trailers are made by people who are masters of irony: very little means what it appears to mean in the trailer. These scenes could come from throughout the season: for example, what if part of the Season 6 finale is Jon and the Wildlings retaking Castle Black from the Nationalists after the Bastard Bowl? If they go to re-man the Wall and the Nationalists still hold sway, then that is what they would have to do. Is that what happens? Not necessarily: but it is not implausible, either.

      Moreover, keep in mind that they do not have to resolve the Nationalists and the Loyalists in episode 1 or 2 OR deal with it the rest of the season. If the Loyalists+Wildlings flee with Jon (dead or alive), and leave the Nationalists in charge, then the Nationalists are not really an issue again until the Bastard Bowl at the earliest. After all, the NW does not have enough men (particularly sans the Loyalists) to do much about that, at least not without massive aid from Northerners. (That, too, is a possibility, of course.)

      None of this is to say that Nationalist vs. Loyalist will not be wrapped up by the end of the 2nd episode. It is to say that there are many possible routes that this can take, including several that will have it conclude at the end of the season. Part of the problem is that we do not know what the story is this year: and thus it’s tough to work out how the Nationalist vs. Loyalist issue might best serve Jon’s part of the story.

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    160. To all the people wondering why this trailer hit TV without any announcement: Nothing gets fans talking about GoT like a rumor of a new trailer floating around somewhere.

      But then again, the first trailer was dropped without any warning on a completely random date. Could just be that HBO is too boss to give a crap about stuff like that.

      But then again, they announced that Hall of Faces tease 2 days prior O_o

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    161. Jack Bauer 24: How do they double in size in just a few days? Season 6 takes place immediately after Season 5.

      Doesn’t mean that he will have this size during all of the Season. We could see him in ep 1 and he’ll still have the same size as before, and then 5 or 6 episodes later he shows up and it is revealed that he has grown enormously.

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    162. Black Raven,
      Presuming you’re stuck with Sky Atlantic only and don’t have access to HBO, I’ve been recording programmes I thought might include the trailer since it first came out – which ended up being basically anything from 9pm onwards – and coming up blank. Finally managed to catch it this monday just gone (21st) half way through the new episode of Vinyl. Pretty sure that was one of the first times they’d shown it, before then it was just their own trailer for catching up on episodes so far. So stick with it, feathery one, now they’ve started it’ll hopefully keep being shown.

      BunBunStark,
      You’re definitely not the only one who does this sort of thing, re: my comment above, I probably had to trawl through 20 hours of fast forwarding before finding it 🙁 for the effort 😀 for the (eventual) result.

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    163. Wimsey: Do we know that the Mormonts and Hornwoods are fighting against the Boltons?

      Various supposed set reports indicate they are.

      The issue I have is, why would any of the Northerners align with the Wildlings?

      Because the conflict is going to be Starks vs. Boltons, one imagines, and the Wildlings are on the Stark side.

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    164. Jack Bauer 24:
      They said they don’t scale the dragons sizes during a season. It’s always one size throughout.

      I seem to recall Drogon being rather small in S4E1 (scene where he snaps at Dany for the first time), and then he’s almost as big as in Season 5 in S4E6 (scene where he burns a bunch of goats).

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    165. I belive if Jon is indeed brought back,Sansa will become Quin of the north and legitimise Jon as a Stark.This will explain his stark costume. 😀

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    166. I like this new teaser more than the first trailer, actually.

      lp,

      Given how you’ve described Rhaegal’s personality,

      I think Arya might end up being his dragon rider. Jon may choose to remain a Stark, plus he and Ghost have remained together and still share a bond. Arya has been separated from Nymeria a while now and both have been changed by then. Maybe Arya will be more receptive to bonding with a dragon. Plus the fact she mentioned Dark Sister during S2 makes me wonder.

      A dragon each for Targaryen, Stark and Lannister houses would be nice symmetry, since they are the main families of this story.

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    167. One of Roose Bolton’s 20 good leeches: If I had to bet, I would say that the Mormonts and Hornwoods lost the most family members during the RW, and that will be their reason for choosing Jon and the Wildlings over the Boltons.

      They could do that, but they will have to do it well and convincingly: this audience knows that nothing unites a people in strife quite like an invasion by a greater enemy. “Me against my brother, my brothers and I against our cousins, our family against the world” has been almost a law of human behavior since before we were human.

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    168. Luka Nieto: Yes. We do.

      Sean C.,

      But nothing gets people off of your side quite as well as the wrong allies! So, how are they going to convince us that they are willing to accept this? I am not saying that it cannot be done: but I am saying that it is going to be difficult.

      So, if it is going to be (and I take Luka’s word on that), then I am really interested to see how it plays out. I cannot think of an easy way: but, then, it is their (M,B&W’s) job to do that, not mine!

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    169. Wimsey,

      Jon is, to all appearances, marching under the Stark banner (whether Sansa is involved in this is entirely up in the air). The Starks are the ancestral rulers of the North; it’s hardly surprising that there are Northerners who’d rally to it against the Boltons, who are cartoonishly evil and have committed far more recent crimes against most of the North than have the Wildlings.

      Wimsey,

      There haven’t been any known castings for Mormonts or Hornwoods, so I don’t know how, if at all, that’s going to be specifically dramatized. We know they cast two Northern lords for a day’s filming, the ones we’ve taken to referring to as Manderly and Cerwyn due to the character resemblances. Oddly, I don’t think either of those houses has been specifically mentioned in filming spoilers.

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    170. Spoilers for something that is going to happen in S6, the original trailer, best seat in the house, and this new trailer

      So Steve’s comment made me go back and look at a sigil which has been puzzling me and seems to be from the same charge, except in the original trailer. Just as the horses come into view there’s a sigil on the far left of the screen which is pale blue with a gold circle. At first I though it was the Karstark’s but looking at the best seat in the house video from a few weeks ago, theirs seems to be gold on a black background with a gold border. Possibly variations on a theme but they do look different to me. Looked up the sigils and the only one that seemed like the blue and gold was House Lefford, who I don’t think we’ve really heard anything about? Could of course be House Invented For S6. Zoomed in on the Karstark picture and noticed for the first time that although a lot of the ground on the battlefield is mud, there seems to be snow towards the back, ie furthest from the Bolton forces. Although the horses in the picture with the blue and gold blanket look like they are charging through mud, there’s a shot in this new trailer of horses on what looks like light snow, so I think they might be the anti-Bolton side. I’ve stuck the pictures here for comparison.

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    171. Flora Linden,

      At this point, I would lean towards Daeny, Jon and Tyrion: they are the three biggest principle characters at this point.

      Jon’s relationship with Ghost should not be viewed as an impediment. Many people take the opposite view and posit that Bran will be a rider because of Bran’s relationship to Summer.

      aldeatcu: This will explain his stark costume.

      It’s not a “Stark” costume: it’s a northern one.

      Dragonmcmx: I seem to recall Drogon being rather small in S4E1 (scene where he snaps at Dany for the first time), and then he’s almost as big as in Season 5 in S4E6 (scene where he burns a bunch of goats).

      The dragons were big enough at that time to toss sheep around in the air. They were much bigger by Season 5: but it seems that dragons grow quickly.

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    172. Lulus Mum,

      House Lefford would definitely be a bit out of place, unless Cersei has been doing record work at alienating Lannister bannermen, heh. It’s possible it’s the “House Mazin” mentioned in those set spoilers, named after D&D’s pal who gave them advice on the pilot.

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    173. I am so much møre stoked about the Ironborn story than I was about dorne læst year. Both subplots Seam to be universally disliked among book readers, But I never fully agreed. It was a mistake to add that many pov’s instead of sticking with one in each region, and Dorne wasnt really interesting. The sandsnakes seemed too cartonish for this story (I think that works much better for the show). Arianne was a repitition of Margerys character. To me, Doran was the only true highlight and he is an awsome character.
      BUT… I think the Iron Børn story was waaaay better. It adds a new intriqing villain to the narative, expands on the books’ magic, involves already exsisting characrers (yara, aeron, victarion) and expands on them and their culture and religion. Furthermore, asha is a much better heart of that story than arianne was in Dorne. The show did an acceptable job with Dorne in my opinion and didnt do better or wiese than the books, But I think the Iron børn will be reaaally awsome in s6.

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    174. Sean C.,

      Humans have almost always “forgiven” recent crimes (or put the grievances on hold) when faced with traditional enemies who have committed older crimes. That is why xenophobia is such a powerful tool for real political leaders when they try to unite divided people: Yes, we are mad at each other: but we have to put that aside until we deal with the older threat. In reality, one would expect that the lore of six prior invasions plus the constant loses from raids should outweigh the recent atrocity. We have only to look at very recent events to see examples of that!

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    175. Sean C.,
      Well she does have her own special brand of ‘diplomacy’! 😉 I read that as House Amazin’ which is what I shall think of them from now on 😀

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    176. Damphairintheshowplease!: It was a mistake to add that many pov’s instead of sticking with one in each region, and Dorne wasnt really interesting.

      The mistake was to add new protagonists. However, once GRRM decided to make that mistake, he had to introduce multiple PoVs. The story was about people trying to dynamically evolve from “child” to “adult” in one capacity or another. For the established characters, that did not require telling us about the “child”: we had three prior books of development. However, for the new characters or the ones that had been incidental characters in prior books, we needed 3rd party PoVs to flesh out the characters so that we understood where the character had begun and where they were going.

      I agree with you that it did not work. (And although I was in the “Dorne Sucked More than the Iron Islands” camp, I did think that the Iron Islands sucked pretty badly! Dorne just sucked more than badly….)

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    177. Wimsey:
      Humans have almost always “forgiven” recent crimes (or put the grievances on hold) when faced with traditional enemies who have committed older crimes.That is why xenophobia is such a powerful tool for real political leaders when they try to unite divided people: Yes, we are mad at each other: but we have to put that aside until we deal with the older threat.In reality, one would expect that the lore of six prior invasions plus the constant loses from raids should outweigh the recent atrocity.We have only to look at very recent events to see examples of that!

      I don’t think that’s as reliable a maxim as that. The British and the French warred constantly from 13th century to the 19th, but in the 20th century were staunch allies against new challenges from Germany (even though Germany was traditionally Britain’s ally). There are plenty of times throughout history where yesterday’s enmity must give way in the face of a new foe. In Season 5 Ramsay flayed Lord and Lady Cerwyn alive. I don’t see how it’s implausible that Cerwyn the Younger would side against the Boltons, given that.

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    178. lp:
      If Tyrion is to ride a dragon, I’d say Viserion seems the safe bet. He is described more than once as being much smaller than the other 2, even oddly so. He is also gold and they kept a line from the books in the show when Tyrion as Hand says “If I had a gold dragon…”. He’s talking of course about coins, but it could easily be a clever foreshadowing

      I’d forgotten about that line! LOL

      I agree that if Tyrion ever rides a Dragon, it’ll be Viserion.

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    179. Sean C.,

      Britain’s policy was to unite as much of Europe as they could against the most powerful country in Europe. In their minds, that was the enemy. So, that led to a twofold policy: unite everyone against the French AND never let the Germans unite. Once Germany united, then the UK maintained the same policy: but Germany became the enemy in their minds.

      Part of what made this possible was the fact that the French and the English had done little to the other in England or France in centuries. Much of their fighting had been over colonial territories and in far flung parts of the world. There was no analog of 6 Wildling invasions or constant Wildling raids. Had that been the case, then it probably would have been much more difficult for the French and English to unite against the Germans. It is the difference between fighting over toys and fighting over food! (I’ve read it posited several times that had Napoleon actually invaded England, then it is very possible that the UK and France would not have been able to unite in WWI: so, the French might have been very lucky to have failed 100 years later!)

      The failure of both Wilhelm II and Hitler to understand this led both to assume that, in the end, the English would not side with the French. Whoops. However, ordinarily both men would have been correct: because ordinarily such prolonged hostilities between two countries would have resulted in numerous atrocities committed in England and France by the other. However, the atrocities typically were committed far from either home.

      As such, I am curious to see how this unfolds. One thing that I do suspect is that this is going to be a story about the compromises needed to get unwilling followers to follow: and it might be that Jon is going to have to do some particularly unsavory things (in his mind) to forge a union between two ancient enemies.

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    180. Lulus Mum:
      Black Raven,
      Presuming you’re stuck with Sky Atlantic only and don’t have access to HBO, I’ve been recording programmes I thought might include the trailer since it first came out – which ended up being basically anything from 9pm onwards – and coming up blank. Finally managed to catch it this monday just gone (21st) half way through the new episode of Vinyl. Pretty sure that was one of the first times they’d shown it, before then it was just their own trailer for catching up on episodes so far. So stick with it, feathery one, now they’ve started it’ll hopefully keep being shown.

      Caw – Caw 🙂 Thanks for the info. I’ll keep my hopes up it will appear on Sky Atlantic soon. They’ve been rerunning the series. Tonight showing S4 episodes 8 and 9 so perhaps this new trailer will appear later.

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    181. Lulus Mum,

      In the full trailer, you can see a man in the standard Stark armor behind the horse that falls down.

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    182. Holy SHEEIITTT! It’s got a new shot of the Night’s King engulfed in fire walking out of it like a bad-ass! THE DRAGONS ARE FUCKED.

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    183. Wow. Understandably, I expected the online release of the TV spot to be exactly the same… But oh man, that new shot with the Night’s King silhouetted against an immense fire is bloody amazing.

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    184. Wimsey,

      Wimsey, in this case I have to support your opponent. Of cause, every situation is different but I can provide you an example from the medieval history of my country when there was a feud, and one of the party attempted to end it a Red Wedding style (involving violation of the Guest Right) – the public outrage was such, that the betrayed party sided with the enemy which an equivalent of White Walkers, not some wildlings, and the traitors had to pay (the White Walkers’ equivalent were swept shortly afterwards as well, but that’s another story).

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    185. Daaaamn, that image of the Night’s King is awesome. Looks like he’s gonna be a busy guy this year.

      One of Roose Bolton’s 20 good leeches:
      Holy SHEEIITTT! It’s got a new shot of the Night’s King engulfed in fire walking out of it like a bad-ass! THE DRAGONS ARE FUCKED.

      I don’t think he himself is engulfed in flames but is walking away from something that is on fire. But yeah, dragons are not going to be enough to dispatch the White Walkers. That’s gonna have to be hand-to-hand combat, I think.

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    186. lp: Rhaegal is interesting. Rhaegal is violent, angry, difficult to control. He snaps at Viserion more than once. I think it’s clear based on the way George is writing him, that Rhaegal desperately needs his rider. He’s lost without him/her and while he may always remain an aggressive fighter, he will likely be controllable when he bonds with his rider. Also of note I got the impression that Rhaegal is the most distant from Dany of the 3.

      It fits in with Arya a lot actually.

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    187. Inga:
      Firannion,

      “Sveiks!” it’s Latvian. Lithuanian would be “Sveiki!” (plural), but rather close. Where have you learned it? (Sorry for the off-topic.)

      The Lithuanian side of my family (my mother’s grandparents emigrated to the US from there) pronounced it ‘sveiks,’ but perhaps ‘sveikas’ is a more precise spelling. They used it exclusively as a toast – not for ‘hello’ as the Latvians apparently do.

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    188. El-Bobbie,

      George does have an imagination lol. I’m glad they didn’t play that out in the show. Although in an age where just about everything has been done at some point, a depiction of dragon having orgasm would’ve surely broken new ground 🙂

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    189. George:
      In a tidbit from WIC, apparently GOT shot 10 days on Calgary this year; this is apparently where they shoot the wolves for the Direwolf scenes in the show…so presumably we’re guaranteed more Direwolf action than the 2 shots of Ghost that we saw last year!

      Suggesting perhaps some warging, or else the wolves consistently being a key part of battles. Either is good. I miss the ‘direwolf to the face’ days of Robb Stark’s campaigns 😀

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    190. Sue the Fury,

      How do you know for a fact, if you know for a fact that Wun Wun is going through the gates of Winterfell, that is the Scene with Jon, Ramsay, Littlefinger, and Sansa, correct?

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    191. Baenerys,

      I actually think they will stick to the storyline that is from the books minus Victarion. Theon’s story in Westeros is almost done. So Euron wins the Kingsmoot. Theon still scared of Ramsay so he basically replacing victarion and Theon is going to Meereen. thoughts?

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    192. One of Roose Bolton’s 20 good leeches,

      You make a great point. This could be the grand northern conspiracy unfolding right in front of our eyes. GRRM did a great job of hiding the conspiracy (if there is one, by none of the POV characters being involved, besides Manderly and his one conversation with Davos). So, the Umbers could easily turn on the boltons in the battle and all other northern lords in the fight just killing boltons as well. The Conspiracy from the book would be in the show and played off like we had no clue. They did give us one clue, the old lady for Sansa in Winterfell in Season 5 said “The North Remembers”, well Ramsay found out and flayed her. But that is one clue of the north remembering and possibly planning to do something. I think one guy said the same thing to Brienne while she was waiting in Wintertown outside of Winterfell.

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    193. lp,

      Well, they would easily show it twice as a pre-curser to the future. Look Wun Wun can bust through Castle Black gates, then 9 episodes later here is Wun Wun again running towards Winterfell’s gate, obvisouly the viewer would think “oh Wun Wun can take down gates” and my guess is Winterfell’s gate possibly gives him a little trouble. Also, they are two different gates castle blacks swings open where Winterfell’s goes up if I am not mistaken. I saw lots of weddings one season why can’t I see a giant go through two big doors twice in one season? Maybe Thorne tricked the wildings to go to Castle Black to meet with Jon only to massacre them so it is the wildings leaving in a hurry. Maybe Castle black is under attack by wights while the wildings are there and that is his way of escaping. Wun Wun already battled them once before and he wants to get out quick possibly. Maybe he is charging Winterfell as a Wight. There are tons of theories as to why Wun Wun may be going through two gates in one season. I don’t think this is a FAIL on the writers because Wun Wun goes through two separate gates.

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