“A Targaryen cannot be trusted”
The official synopsis:
Daenerys receives an unexpected visitor. Jon faces a revolt. Sam risks his career and life. Tyrion plans the conquest of Westeros.
“Stormborn” is written by Bryan Cogman and directed by Mark Mylod.
Check out the official photos here!
Geoffery: I don’t know what to be more excited about this episode: Jon strangling Littlefinger, Arya’s lupine encounter or the power-play at Dragonstone!
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Hodor?
Hodor!
Ser Broccoli McBroccoliface,
Had to beat me to it, didntchu?
Issorite, will try again next time. For now, I can’t wait to see Euron. I hope he’s as interesting as he was in Dragonstone. I’m guessing Mel is the surprise guest Dany gets. One could argue that it’s one of her Westeros allies but that wouldn’t be surprising, now would it? I’ll choke in laughter if we see Daario. Haha!
King beyond the Wall II,
Only my second time. Frankly Im shocked!
Daario would be epically hilarious. Id kill to see Danys facepalm were that to happen.
Euron is in full 80s Goth form. After a few lines of blow.
Sam risks his career and life.
I don’t think that was in the original episode synopsis HBO released, was it? Either way, am excited we get more Sam but slightly nervous for him if he’s risking his life.
Who is that at 0:14? Is that one of the Sand Snakes?
I think I know who Dany’s unexpected visitor is. If the ComicCon preview is also only for this episode, this one should feature a ton of Dragonstone.
So, will LF be leading this revolt? Will Yohn Royce be by his side? Will Sansa?
Sam! Will Sam be risking life and career to save Jorah?
Tyrion! Will he be lobbying to take Casterly Rock first, as a form of surprise and a symbol of Lannister pride, before attacking King’s Landing?
Will we be seeing one of the two enormous season battles this episode?
Broken Wolf,
Tyene.
My guess is Mel too. We haven’t seen her since Jon ran her off and Dany seems like the next logical destination for her. She sure isn’t going to KL or back to Asshai.
The “revolt” Jon faces is most likely from Yohn Royce and everyone from the Vale that still hates the Targs from Aerys’s time, being masterfully manipulated by Baelish (who just wants to drive a wedge between Jon and Sansa).
That’s my guess. I can’t wait to see what happens. Of all the villains in the show that remain, I want to see Littlefinger die an agonizing death the most. Cersei is crazy, so is Euron (although his show character is really watered down from the book character), the Others are just impending doom and not really villains, but Baelish is just a smug little pest and I can’t wait to see him out of the picture.
Ginevra,
I see. Thank you. 🙂
there is so much to look forward to in this episode.
The scenes in the North
Arya and wolf pack
Dragonstone
more Sam
SEA BATTLE
I wonder how good this episode 2 will be, definitely has the potential to be a Lion and Rose and Home of season 7, could be one of the best episode 2 of the series.
Also Bryan Cogman wrote it!!!!!
Cogman writes two episodes a season right ?
Alba Stark,
Just a guess, but maybe Sam’s risk is that he tries to help Jorah and physically gets close to him, more so than the other caretakers there, to the point of being considered dangerous and risking his life. Perhaps his experience with Shireen (not sure if I’m spelling her name correctly) has given him a different attitude about the disease. For example, something can be done and should be done. Once he realizes that man in the cell is Jorah Mormont, I think he will want to get in there to help him. But we will see soon!
Damn I bet Jorah is saved and ends up leaving with Sam, then he will wield the Tarly valyrian steel sword in some fight. Would be nice redemption for him to wield it for good defending the North, which he was banished from
Ginevra,
I read your post in the forums about Sandor and the location of his fire vision and thought it was very interesting! I’m not registered in the forums and cannot comment there but wanted to at least say that I enjoyed reading it and encourage others to check it out.
I agree, I think the risk to Sam’s life has to do with that contagious and deadly grayscale.
Regarding the revolt, one tidbit is I think that shot of Lyanna Mormont saying “but winter is here” is her urging Jon to stay there, not go south.
I’ve been wondering about Royce and what part he is going to play. Also, I don’t think LF is taking Sansa’s repeated cold shoulder well and there might be a price to pay for that. Even though he says he loves her, he loves himself on the Iron Throne more!
So much to look forward to tomorrow night!
onefromaway,
I think Royce will lead some sort of revolt against LF and maybe even Robyn. In the books he is held up as an absolutely formidable warrior, almost like the Blackfish. They have softened that up a bit in the show (when they showed him cowed last season by the threat of death from LF/Robyn).
The Vale still has one of the largest armies in Westeros and they have to have some sort of role to play, either in the battle for the Iron Throne or the war for the dawn (against the NK).
Thank you, onefromaway!
Jon is already very focused on defeating the winter threat rather than Cersei, as we saw Sunday, which is why he wants dragonglass and dragons. And so I think that he and Lyanna would be on the same page. Lyanna has been on Team Stark since she was old enough to speak and Team Snow ever since her initial resistance to joining against the Boltons. She’s the reason he’s KitN. If there is a revolt, my guess is that she and Davos and the Wildlings, assuming they’ve not yet left, would be the most likely to side with Jon.
I saw Yohn Royce’s arguments last week for the castles to go to new homes as self-serving, presumably thinking they should go to those Vale lords who saved the day, like the Royces. I wonder if LF and Royce might be more focused on defeating Cersei, as Sansa was: LF because he wants the throne and Royce because he doesn’t want Cersei attacking the Vale.
I believe Dany and Tyrion will also fall for this mentality that the Iron Throne is more important than the enemy to the north. I’m hoping they’ll give up dragonglass but I fear they’ll refuse to help fight with the dragons, deeming the Seven Kingdoms more important than fighting grumpkins.
I see the current Westerosi landscape as heading toward another War of the Three (or Four or Five or Six) Queens with Cersei, Dany, QoT, Yara, Ellaria, and possibly Sansa. But where did the War of the Five Kings get Westeros? How has playing the game of thrones helped anyone in the long run? All five kings are dead and forgotten now. The real threat is the one in the north, but Jon has to strategically plan how to defeat the Others via dragonglass, dragonsteel, and dragons.
Daenerys receives an unexpected visitor. Blues musician Robert Johnson? That would be most unexpected.
Jon faces a revolt. Quells revolt by raising the minimum wage to 50 cents a year.
Sam risks his career and life. By dissing Jim Broadbent’s performance in “Bridget Jones’s Baby.”
Tyrion plans the conquest of Westeros. That is no laughing matter. Carry on, milord!
Yeah, I would have noticed that, it wasn’t there before. He can’t die, he’s got to find all this info to get to jon, so I am not going to be worried…….
I’d like that. And maybe Sansa can come by and tell her little secret about LF to Royce
I am very eager to see Arya’s scene with the wolves because the dynamics of this moment intrigues me terribly.
I do not really understand how direwolves work; even in the books, where it is explored in much more details, the mechanics of their relationship with the Starks is quite fuzzy to me… All the Starks appear to have some degree of warging ability. So each of them is connected to his/her direwolf. But are the direwolves connected to them as a result of it ? When Arya has vivid dreams of Nymeria, does Nymeria “sense” Arya ?
The question may seem trivial especially since the show has pretty much eliminated the Starks’ warging, except for Bran’s. Yet it could play a part in the future reunion between the younger Stark sister and her direwolf. If Nymeria has remained linked to Arya, via (implicit) warging, for all these years, then she will recognise her former owner. However, if the warging process is purely one-sided, then Nymeria may have no idea who Arya is.
Even Daenerys’s dragons have gone through phases during which they seemingly ignore or forget their bond to their “mother” in spite of the fact that, in their case, they have spent almost everyday of their life with her. Arya and Nymeria, conversely, had only spent a handful of months together before they separated and that was six years ago. Any “normal” animal would have entirely forgotten about this by now. Could Nymeria not recognise Arya ? I am genuinely puzzled.
Royce argued for the castles to be destroyed, not reattributed, if I remember correctly.
Absolutely.
But before he can strategically plan how to use dragonglass, dragonsteel and dragons, he has to strategically plan how to acquire those things. As well as troops to wield them, and food to feed said troops, and means of transportation to bring both the troops and the materials where they need to be, and a chain of command to devise tactics and carry out orders, and “safe havens” for people unable to fight, etc.
All of which may require him to argue, convince, negociate, bargain and strike deals. It is starting to sound like politics. Me likey ! 😉
onefromaway,
Ginevra,
Tbh I’m not really liking the idea of Jon leaving the north after what seems like them begging him not to go. It almost feels like deserting his post. I wonder if we will even see him come back before the season ends. If not, many of them could feel pretty vulnerable and worried.
Again with the revolts on Jon? Do people want to become zombies in the Night King’s army? If Jon is going to get dragon glass-and possibly help from fire-breathing dragons-then isn’t that a good thing? Sigh
Also I agree with what most are saying-Sam risking his life and career kind of sounds like helping Jorah. I hope so. The two closest companions of Jon and Dany should be friends.
ygritte,
Yeah obviously Jon just goes on a vacation and not to ensure they are saved and have a fighting chance.He should stay north to train the 10 year olds.Essential job that only the king can do.Maybe he should also tuck Yohn Royce into bed.I mean it’s not like dragonglass and dragonfire are essential in fighting the WW .After all they have plenty of those in the north.And his army of 5000 men tops can definitely take a million wights.The nerve of him lol.
In other news Happy Jon chokes Lf day guys!
Ginevra,
agree 100% the war of the 5 kings is over, now is time for the war of the three queens (just as LF said in the books), Queen Daenerys invading Westeros, Queen Cersei on the iron throne and Queen (Regent) Sansa in the norhern kingdom (North + Vale), I hope they are smarter than the previus kings, definitely they will be more ruthless.
They are my favourite characters (along with Arya), my heart is divided, I Don’t want any of them to die.
Apologies if someone already pointed this out:
The official pic of Arya really should be the Inn at the Crossroads…the door architecture is identical from previous scenes, including Sansa walking with Joffrey and Catelyn visiting in S1, and later Arya saying goodbye to Hot Pie. There are some differences in nearby props and in the latter scene there’s some damage to the air duct, but nothing that can’t be explained away by the passage of time.
However…either it’s a back door we haven’t seen (we have seen one other side, with plain doors), or there’s a bit of a set mistake. In the previous scenes, there’s a window directly above-right of the door. It brushes against the door’s stonework. There’s no window in the Ep 2 pic.
Of course it could be another inn, but I would call foul :).
I’m excited for all of the things a visit to the Inn could mean for Arya! I mean, aside from the obvious. It’s a busy place. A lot of different characters could be passing through – friend or foe.
Sam is risking his potential career as a professional Quidditch player.
But…but… How dare he not trust Littlefinger!!11111 He should be nice to him!!!!11111
Jenny,
How dare jon want to save all my favorite characters!!111111
Alvaricomg,
Sansa is not a queen. She is lady of Winterfell and that is it. The war of the 3 queens in the books will probably be Dany, Cersei and Arianne.
Flayed Potatoes,
He is just like dumb dumb Ned even though Ned’s mistake was not choking LF but actually trusting him lol.
Jenny,
And Ned trusted him because Cat told him to so lol
At the KL throne room who is screen right of Randyll and Dickon Tarly ? He seems in a bit different costume than them.
Flayed Potatoes,
No but as you know it’s all his fault cause he is a Stark #honorisdumb.
Hoping that Arya (heading to KL) runs into Nymeria and is reminded of home, and turns around back to Winterfell for a REUNION! And even better, catches on to LF’s dangerous scheming ways and kills him. Perhaps disguised as Sansa or her mom…sorry getting a little carried away here!
I really hope this is the case – Sam and Jorah interacting more extensively would be a great scene on several levels. Not only would it be a meeting between two of Jon and Dany’s most loyal and long-standing supporters, but Sam is in a position to tell Jorah more about his father’s death. So far, all Jorah knows is that he was killed by his own men.
I hadn’t taken Shireen into account. Of course, Sam knows that greyscale can be cured. Or at least, the spread of it halted and the infectious nature of the disease neutralized.
My favorite part of Trailer #1! I’m really looking forward to this scene. Partly because LF will be getting what he deserves, and partly because I want to see the context in which it takes place. Clearly they are in the crypts, but why? And what does LF say or do to make Jon lose his temper like this?
I know I really shouldn’t be advocating violence, but I will quite likely be cheering inside when I watch this scene.
Daenerys receives an unexpected visitor.
I think this will be Mel.
Jon faces a revolt.
It’s time for the choking scene!
Sam risks his career and life.
Uh oh! I hope he sneaks into the restricted section again.
Tyrion plans the conquest of Westeros.
Can’t wait for this scene.
Yes, I rewatched that scene and you recalled correctly. I feel better about Royce now.
I did get chills as Jon said directly to Sansa, “The punishment for treason is death.” Based on interviews, that quote could be extraordinarily important in this season.
True, but the jetpacks this season work like they’ve never worked before, I hear. And that was after Varys’s magical apparating experiences last season. So I imagine we’ll see Jon already at Dragonstone in Episode 2 as the unexpected visitor and back in the North by Episode 3 or 4.
If they didn’t get dragonglass or dragonsteel or dragons, they’d have to fight a lot like they fought at Hardhome, right? And then they’d have to die a lot like they died at Hardhome, by the tens of thousands, once the Wall comes down. Their only hope is to have tools that kill the wights and the Others.
Both Sophie and Liam mentioned Sansa and Davos having a scene together at Comic Con.
I’m hoping they won’t be antagonistic towards each other.
Yes I wondered about that, does not seem to me that it’s a ‘little’ secret if Sansa was to just flat tell Royce what happened. Does she keep that to herself as a trump card?
Vincent Stark,
Davos won’t be. He’s always polite, even when he gets attitude from others.
Ginevra,
It’s true with the Hardhome experience he knows they’re going to need all the help they can get from magical weapons and hearing about abundance on DS it’s a given to go there quickly, only I can’t help but think maybe he should send an envoy in his stead. I guess as we saw last week he doesn’t believe there’s any immediate danger from the south/Cersie.
The northern Lords & Ladies only know about the existence of the Night King’s army from what Jon has told them. Even those who fully believe what Jon has said about what lies beyond the Wall also know that the Wall has always kept them safe from it. Much like the Citadel Maester, they have become complacent about how real that threat is.
But they do have actual experience with a Targaryan ruler being crazy and untrustworthy. It is not at all unreasonable for them to be hesitant about Jon rushing off to meet with Daenerys. Of course, we know Jon is right, but they don’t know that.
That line in the synopsis about Sam risking his career and his life seems to suggest that he’ll be taking aggressive action to help Jorah sooner than I expected. I thought that storyline would last for another episode at least. But Sam Tarly has scrubbed enough pans and taken enough shit. It’s time for our resident would-be wizard to start saving people!
ACME,
The question may seem trivial especially since the show has pretty much eliminated the Starks’ warging, except for Bran’s. Yet it could play a part in the future reunion between the younger Stark sister and her direwolf. If Nymeria has remained linked to Arya, via (implicit) warging, for all these years, then she will recognise her former owner.
It’s a good question IMO even if the warging isn’t omitted from the show. But it is clear with Ghost and Jon that the Stark-direwolf bond is strong, even to the point of Ghost defending Jon’s friends. If Nymeria doesn’t recognize Arya, why show it at all? My guess is they’ll be glad to be reunited, albeit briefly, but Nymeria leading her own pack now and surely staying with them should remind Arya she must get back to her pack now that she knows where they are. So IMO Nymieria will be an important catalyst for an important character. In the meantime, since she lives, presumably that symbolically indicates Arya will live too
onefromaway,
Also, I don’t think LF is taking Sansa’s repeated cold shoulder well and there might be a price to pay for that. Even though he says he loves her, he loves himself on the Iron Throne more!
I think you’re right, but first he’ll try to stir up trouble to get her back, including between her and her family. Many fans think LF loves Sansa to the point of her being his weak point, but he’ll recoil on her if she won’t bring him the IT. He loved Cat wholeheartedly, starting the Wot5K in part to get her back (once Ned was disposed of) and possibly even starting Robert’s Rebellion). He did all this before he even met Sansa! Besides her attractiveness and being Cat 2.0 and a possible queen for him, she appeals to his narcissism–since Season 1 he’s been trying to make her his own creature, a female mirror image. If the image breaks away, he will strike. Despite knowing he’s a serial killer, Sansa is playing with fire and everyone in WF is in danger.
Ginevra,
You’re right that Jon’s comment about the punishment for treason is very important. In an interview, Kit said “Can I punish or execute my sister?” So it might backfire on Sansa, or she might use it against Littlefinger or someone else. She shows no propensity towards mercy. It’s ominous and has many possible targets.
I had to google Arianne. If she wasn’t in the series earlier I think we can rule her out being in the series now.
So no KL and Bran this episode?
squirrel,
KL yes, there’s at least the scene in the Throne Room with Tyrell bannermen, including Randyll Tarly.
No Bran, though, as far as we know.
Yes, I agree that would be nice, especially since I wonder what LF and Sansa might cook up while he’s gone!!! I suspect he feels that he would stand the best chance of success by going himself and appealing as the king rather than some representative. And that’s likely true. What I’m really, really looking forward to is seeing his reaction to and presence with the dragons, as a secret Targaryen, and with Dragonstone, as the secret AAR. Perhaps there will be nothing, but I hope we get some awesomeness there!
I think there’s more to the Jon/LF choking scene than mere irritation. Don’t think my speculation is spoiler-worthy or anything new, but just in case:
I believe LF – seeking to undermine Jon’s place – tells him that Ned is not his father. LF may or may not know the details, but go back to LF and Sansa in the crypts a couple of seasons ago and it’s pretty clear he knows more about Lyanna than he let on. I think Jon choking him is out of disbelief, confusion and anger.
Just as LF is trying to convince Sansa it’s her right to be elevated, LF has reason to undermine Jon’s belief in his position. This is one way to do it.
my guess is either Mel or Gendry as the visitor
I’m looking forward to the sea battle and assume that will close this episode, I trust it’s going to be pretty epic. I also hope Bran is in this episode a little more than the first one.
The visitor is almost certainly Mel.
I’m thrilled for a Bryan Cogman episode but simultaneously nervous for a Mark Mylod one. I feel like many of the Arya issues in “The Broken Man” and “No One” last year might have been created by the director. Hopefully his interpretations this year are a bit more on point.
Arya: Hmm, I didn’t do that.
LMAO!!!
And so the coup begins….
My unfiltered reaction, before reading any of these comments or anyone’s interpretation, is that the first 45 minutes were full of awesomeness, and I was moved to tears multiple times (Arya’s decision to head North, instead of to King’s Landing, and then again when she reunited with Nymeria). Then, the last 10-15 minutes were a nightmare, intentionally I’m sure, that I truly hope is not replicated in the (maybe never arriving) books.
What a horrible final sequence of events for people defending the show against accusations of too much violence against women! Every major female character on that ship got horribly violence’d, not to mention humiliated and laughed at, each and every one, with massive implications of sexual violence to come for those not actually killed. And all at the hands of Euron, the most magically-powered character on the show, capable of building entire fleets out of thin air, etc etc… so just the most possible BS scenario. On top of which we know that in the books (I know, I know, but I’m trying to reconcile), both Theon and Yara/Asha are far in the North, so pretty unlikely to engage in a huge sea battle with their Nuncle anytime soon.
And THEN to have it end with Theon being humiliated and shamed all over again, with Euron laughing at him and Yara crying! Oh, but the real end was the final shot of two women (not exactly sure who, maybe the sand snakes that were killed..? Internet will confirm shortly, I’m sure.), hanging/impaled on the ship. A final shot of unnecessary grotesquery. (maybe a fake word)
I just felt icky, is all I know. And I’ve read all the icky parts of the books, without feeling this annoyed and just scratching my head as to WTF could even be the point of it all. I’m sure I will reconcile and get over it, but this left me feeling empty. If anyone cares:)