[Updated] New photos from Game of Thrones Season 6, Episode 7 “The Broken Man”

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Jerome Flynn as Bronn and Nikolaj Coster-Waldau as Jaime Lannister. Credit: Helen Sloan /HBO

HBO has released this week’s new batch of photos from Sunday’s episode of Game of Thrones. The season’s seventh episode (yes, we’re already headed for the 7th ep!) will be titled “The Broken Man,” and feature a return for Clive Russell as the Blackfish, and a rallying of the Northern cause. Jerome Flynn is finally making an appearance on the show this season, and we can look forward to some action in the Riverlands.

Official episode synopsis: The High Sparrow eyes another target. Jaime confronts a hero. Arya makes a plan. The North is reminded.

Photos below the cut!

Update 6/2: Several more photos added!

The Blackfish holds Riverrun, as Walder Frey announced in this week’s episode.

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Clive Russell as Blackfish Tully. Credit: Helen Sloan/HBO

Cersei is roaming about the castle, with the Kingsguard and apparently Tyrell soldiers still around.

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Lena Headey as Cersei Lannister. Credit: Helen Sloan/HBO

Sansa, Jon and their companions rode away from the Wall, looking for Northern allies, and in next Sunday’s episode will be visiting with some smaller Northern Houses. Here we see them encountering Robett Glover of House Glover, who will be played by Tim McInnerny.

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Sophie Turner as Sansa Stark, Kit Harington as Jon Snow, Liam Cunningham as Davos Seaworth, Tim McInnerny as Robett Glover. Credit: Helen Sloan/HBO

Arya is on the run in Braavos- here she’s changed her clothing.

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Maisie Williams as Arya Stark. Credit: Courtesy HBO

Newly subdued Queen Margaery is out of prison, but not completely free as we can see she still has Septa Unella by her side, even as she visits with her grandmother Olenna.

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Diana Rigg as Olenna Tyrell, Natalie Dormer as Margaery Tyrell and Hannah Waddingham as Septa Unella. Credit: Helen Sloan/HBO

 Farfarawaysite has added several more photos from “The Broken Man” today:

In these first two shots, we can see Arya from the front, with her new clothes and her rather Ned Stark-like hairstyle. She looks to be trying to blend into the Braavos crowd.

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Next, we have two photos of the Frey sons- Black Walder (Tim Plester), and Lothar (Daniel Tuite). I’m guessing they’ve headed back to Riverrun as ordered. Black Walder has fresh marks on his nose and cheek- I wonder who did the bloodying, Blackfish or Jaime and Bronn?

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A wider shot of the Blackfish on guard, at Riverrun.

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We can see the Frey-hatted men in the background/sides of these photos, so it looks like Jaime and Bronn have arrived at Riverrun, to help take it back from the Blackfish. I’m loving Jaime in the full Lannister armor.

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A much more demurely dressed Queen Margaery and her Septa, Unella. I’m still of the mind that Margaery is only pretending to be a convert in a very clever deception:

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And last, we have a slightly longer/narrower version of the above Cersei photo:

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A Greek website has posted some photos as well, including this one that appears to be of Riverrun (in the distance) with riders approaching. It’s a small photo and hard to tell, but that might be Jaime’s arrival at the camp outside Riverrun. Thanks to Rhaenys Stark for giving us a heads up on this one.

Update: Found a larger size of the image on RadioTimes. That is definitely a Lannister-armored soldier with a helm on, carrying the Lannister banner.

 

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    1. Dee,

      I love it. After last week, HBO is like, “fukit, giv’em the good stuff.”

      Edit: not complaining about last week but these pics go to eleven.

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    2. Omg I’m so exited!Why isn’t sunday here already?This has the potential to be one of the best episodes ever.Every single storyline looks amazing.One thing though where did they leave melisandre she seems mia?

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    3. These pics have me very much looking forward to Sunday!

      It’s eerie to see Septa Unella chaperoning Margaery. I wonder what Olenna will make of her presence…

      Can’t wait!

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    4. BLACKFISH IS BACK BITCHES!!!

      Also the outfit Arya’s wearing is the

      one she was wearing from those leaked filming photos posted a while back, the one of her in the water, possibly being chased by the Waif. Could it be this episode? Photos: http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/08/17/23/2B710FDC00000578-3201487-image-a-125_1439849321655.jpg http://staticimg.gidy.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/30212502/Arya-Stark-as-a-Water-Dancer-300×257.jpg

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    5. Tim McInnerny is quite a well known name. Really dig the fact that they’re giving so much emphasis on all the “secondary” houses of Westeros. Still holding my breath for the Manderlys, tho! 😀

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    6. Lannister armor (as opposed to the kingsguard armor) is a good look for Jaime! I know we’re excited for a Jaime/ Brienne reunion, but they’re going to be on opposite teams this time :(.

      I’m hoping Margaery will find some way to communicate her goals with Olenna in a manner the Septa can’t pick up on. Her motives are the only thing keeping me halfway interested in KL this season.

      Jon and Sansa don’t look too happy.

      Desperately hoping for more Bran this Sunday.

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    7. Jenny,

      Maybe her absence

      has something to do with the shot of Davos in front of what seemed like Shireen’s pyre that we got from the trailer?

      Just my speculation though.

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    8. these are great! nice change of pace from a couple weeks where the photos were mostly straight from the previews and not terribly interesting. Love the one w/ Arya & the Titan in the background

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    9. The return of Bronn should add to the characters at Riverrun since he and Pod have an interesting history via Tyrion.

      Blackfish looks like he is seeing his nephew trotted out and he is not amused but IS ready to kick some ass.

      Cersei plotting the next maneuver with QoT, FrankenGregor towering over her shoulder.

      Jansavos meeting with House Glover to explain the importance of getting Winterfell back from the Boltons and preparing for the White Walker threat.

      Arya contemplates her next move (just before the Waif shows up Im guessing)

      Queen Marg gets a bath but will Septa Unella be her parole officer?

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    10. Rhaenys Stark,

      It is game-changing thing in the books. But not gonna happen in the show. Jon looks so tiny compared to the Lord Glover. Team Stark looks sad, does not look like the Glovers gives them support.

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    11. Yessss, they’re finally releasing Jon promo pics!!! He looks none too happy with Lord Glover. I figure their meeting will be fruitless. Hell, it looks like Jon & Co aren’t even admitted into the hall; Glover is meeting them outside. Hopefully they’ll have better luck with House Mormont.

      The Blackfish looks badass! Fuck Jaime if he hurts a hair on that man’s head.

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    12. Captain Darling has gone back in time it seems. Hopefully Blackadder follows him soon (hint please cast Rowan Atkinson or Stephen Fry D&D for any role).

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    13. Rhaenys Stark,

      The Glover’s are the exciting part (I think). They are kind of like those awesome sidekick families who always show up at the right time to help.

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    14. Dee,

      No Dany is more than okay with me, haha. But Bran..
      I wonder what’s going on with the Ironborn as well? I have no idea how they’re going to tie these ends up in 4 more episodes.

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    15. Pepi:
      Tim McInnerny is quite a well known name. Really dig the fact that they’re giving so much emphasis on all the “secondary” houses of Westeros. Still holding my breath for the Manderlys, tho! ?

      As soon as I saw him I screamed ‘Alonzo from the 101 and 102 Dalmatians!’ lol I’m sure he will be great.

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    16. We were told in 602 that the Glovers just retook Deepwood Motte (confirmed!), so I’m guessing Robett is going to beg off on the grounds that he’s already lost a lot of people reclaiming his home from the Ironborn. Also, I guess we can assume Galbart was one of the people slain at the Red Wedding, if Robett is in charge now.

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    17. Littlefinger’s Middlefinger:
      Dee,

      No Dany is more than okay with me, haha. But Bran..
      I wonder what’s going on with the Ironborn as well? I have no idea how they’re going to tie these ends up in 4 more episodes.

      Greyjoys are in the episode preview for this week.

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    18. If Bran, Meera and BENJEN aren’t in this episode for at least one scene, I will slightly disappointed.

      But this episode looks great going by these pictures. Also, this is the last episode of the season that’s short. Episode 8 is 59 minutes, Episode 9 is 60 minutes and then episode 10 is the longest episode of the series, 69 minutes.

      GET HYPE! If those episode titles are real (I hope episode 9 isnt called “Battle of the Bastards”) and if episode 10 is really titled “The Winds of Winter’ then the wall could come down at the end of the season.

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    19. Littlefinger’s Middlefinger:
      Dee,

      No Dany is more than okay with me, haha. But Bran..
      I wonder what’s going on with the Ironborn as well? I have no idea how they’re going to tie these ends up in 4 more episodes.

      Cliffhangers, lots of them.

      Happy to see Bronn. Looks like another exciting episode.

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    20. Is Jaime’s armour is the same one that Lord Tywin was wearing in season 2?

      Never mind, it looks like all of the Lannister soldiers have that same armour.

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    21. Does anyone think we’ve seen the gag that directors and visual effects folks were talking about in the offseason yet? Sorry I don’t have the link to that interview handy.

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    22. Sean C.:
      We were told in 602 that the Glovers just retook Deepwood Motte (confirmed!), so I’m guessing Robett is going to beg off on the grounds that he’s already lost a lot of people reclaiming his home from the Ironborn.Also, I guess we can assume Galbart was one of the people slain at the Red Wedding, if Robett is in charge now.

      Yup, that’s what I think too. Can’t say I blame him. Better luck at your next stop, Team Stark.

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    23. Dee,

      The preview, summary, and the released pics suggest there will be no Dany or Tyrion scenes. Only North, Volantis, Braavos, and King’s Landing. We see Jon and Sansa in three different locations (with the wildlings, Bear Island and Deepwood Motte). More King’s Landing stuff like ep6, involving Cersei, High Sparrow, Olenna and Margaery. I hope we get to see septa Unella die screaming and Cersei’s face being the last thing she sees – A Lannister always pays her debts. Arya’s dress is different from the one in which (filming spoilers)

      she is running from the waif in trailer and leaked pics – she is wearing rags in those shots. The play troupe has at least one more episode, so this might be it

      . – Arya’s “plan” may involve the theatre company.
      This time, I am more excited to see the free cities story than the North – In the preview, Theon looks like back in Reek mode. And that shot of Arya gazing at the Titan is glorious (maybe because I’m a huge Arya fan).

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    24. hint please cast Rowan Atkinson

      That would be very cool but I can’t imagine who. Tony Robinson, now…..

      Oh those pics excite me. Worried we will see Rickon and Ramsey….might have th keep my eyes partly covered…

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    25. Making the 8:
      Does anyone think we’ve seen the gag that directors and visual effects folks were talking about in the offseason yet? Sorry I don’t have the link to that interview handy.

      I think it was aged up Mel.

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    26. aabe:
      The preview, summary, and the released pics suggest there will be no Dany or Tyrion scenes.

      I would be astounded if Peter Dinklage missed two episodes in a row. That has never happened before. So I expect there will be something in Meereen, even if it hasn’t been advertised.

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    27. Sean C.,

      He could just be the Glover who meets them.

      OT It is really confusing trying to keep track of all the characters who died at the RW with all that may just be missing. Maybe it’s just a book reader’s dilemma.

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    28. The Pic shows the North being reminded…

      Does the North Remember?

      It’s gonna take something to jog their memory.

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    29. GeekFurious:
      Wait a minute… Arya… Daario… Daario… Arya… they are never in the same place at the same time… Arya… Daario…

      Woah. #mindblown

      And I say… why not? ???

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    30. Sue the Fury,

      Was Gilly wearing a wig when she dined with the Tarly’s? I don’t know what Hannah Murray’s actual hair color is, but when she met Lady Tarly it looked much darker than when she got her makeover.

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    31. Connor:
      BLACKFISH IS BACK BITCHES!!!

      Also the outfit Arya’s wearing is the

      As fast as the show is going I assume Arya will be on a ship to Westeros by the end of the episode.

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    32. jentario:
      That Arya shot is amazing.
      Was missing the Braavos look, so goot to see it’ll make a comeback.

      Was thinking the same. That shot with the Titan of Braavos in the background is awesome.

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    33. Fuck me running. Have they decided to make Jaime look like the hottest man in Westeros again? It seems to happen whenever he’s away from Cersei.

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    34. Jack Bauer 24: Making the 8:
      Does anyone think we’ve seen the gag that directors and visual effects folks were talking about in the offseason yet? Sorry I don’t have the link to that interview handy.

      I think it was aged up Mel.

      I thought that also at the time but I had second thoughts after watching Inside Thrones for Ep1&2 and how they had a stand in for Mel’s body. If that was the gag then something similar was already done with Lena last year in her WoS when her face was superimposed on someone else.

      Anyway I know this is OT but I was curious about other fan opinions, thanks

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    35. Josla,

      I think we will be getting Ian McShane’s character this episode and Bryan Cogman said this in an interview about next week’s episode:

      “All I can say about next week’s episode is there was a week of shooting a particular sequence/storyline that was my favorite week on set in six seasons of Game of Thrones.”

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    36. aabe:
      Rhaenys Stark,

      It is game-changingthing in the books. But not gonna happen in the show. Jon looks so tiny compared to the Lord Glover. Team Stark looks sad, does not look like the Glovers gives them support.

      If I had to make a guess, I would say that they first go to a couple of houses that turn them out, then hit the jackpot with the Mormonts, Manderlys etc

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    37. Wasn’t there a filming leak in which

      Blackfish is defending Riverrun with his men against the Freys? Kind of like a mini-battle before Jaime arrives?

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    38. Jon Small, Sansa Stogre, Davos Seamore and a big effing man. lol They’re not giving it to Jonsa stans by highlighting the height difference.

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    39. Dee,
      Because they are entering totally uncharted territories.
      I have no idea what will happen to them because they have deviated completely from book plot, and I have seen no rumours about what happens to them this season post Kingsmoot and reaching Volantis. A lot could happen, including one of them getting killed. Plus these are two characters I really like.

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    40. I think the Glovers originally say no.
      Jon& Co go to bear island and get Mormonts to say yes.

      This in turn convinces the Glovers to join.

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    41. StellaFleure:
      Whoever the new target might be (hopefully not Olenna).

      Is it too much to hope it’s Pycelle? I don’t want it to be Olenna but Gods that would be interesting. Especially to see how Margory deals w that.

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    42. Hope we get some Tyrion
      I think we all expect Dany to be leaving for Westeros by episode 10, but I just have no idea how they can wrap up Meereen in 4 episodes (heck, this Slavers Bay plot can’t be wrapped up in Dany’s lifetime IMO)…

      We know Tyrion and Dany filmed a scene together, do we know what episode?

      But so hyped. This seems like a heavy Stark/Lannister episode, and Im getting serious season 1/2 feels…

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    43. So excited for this episode!

      Jaime vs Blackfish!
      Arya vs the Waif!
      Deepwood Motte!
      The return of Bronn!

      The Broken Man speech!
      The return of the Hound!

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    44. I really hope Jaqen is sending The Waif to die instead of the other way around. I’d hate to think that Ayra is going to have to be watching her back for the rest of her life. If that’s the case, she’ll never be able to go back to Winterfell.

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    45. DEEPWOOD MOTTE! It’s good to be right /smug.

      Glad to see Jon in the center there. It looks like the meeting won’t go so well for Jonsavos. 🙁 But there are other houses they can see.

      Look at that beautiful Tully and Lannister armor!

      I like Margaery’s cute little crown.

      Arya is dressed to fight! Yeah, girl!

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    46. Littlefinger’s Middlefinger:
      Dee,

      No Dany is more than okay with me, haha. But Bran..
      I wonder what’s going on with the Ironborn as well? I have no idea how they’re going to tie these ends up in 4 more episodes.

      its good if there is a break for dany now, I am kind of annoyed by her atm.

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    47. aabe:
      Dee,
      Because they are entering totally uncharted territories.
      I have no idea what will happen to them because they have deviated completely from book plot, and I have seen no rumours about what happens to them this season post Kingsmoot and reaching Volantis. A lot could happen, including one of them getting killed. Plus these are two characters I really like.

      Imagine if they give Dany the heads up about Euron, but instead of embracing them Dany neglects them Euron and his ships.

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    48. GMarie:
      just a question…. why is Natalie Dormer wearing a wig this season?

      She’s a natural blonde so she may have worn a wig before only this one is more obvious. As somebody mentioned upthread she did have a weird half shaven haircut for “The Hunger Games” part whatever it was.

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    49. Is anyone else thinking that Queen margery is only pulling Tommen into the light of the seven to eventually get rid of Cersi? I think she has something up her sleeve, why else would she tell her brother to stay strong, not give in…but then she decides she is going to atone and brainwash Tommen (she got rid of Jaime…now she can get rid of Cersi once she goes on trial) …Just my opinion of what I think MAY happen and her motives

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    50. GMarie:
      just a question…. why is Natalie Dormer wearing a wig this season?

      Maybe she was still letting her shaved head from Mockingjay grow out while they were shooting this season.

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    51. Sean C.: I would be astounded if Peter Dinklage missed two episodes in a row.That has never happened before.So I expect there will be something in Meereen, even if it hasn’t been advertised.

      Episode is only 51 minutes and already jam packed.

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    52. In the “Blood of My Blood” written recap thread, Luka Nieto listed four possible “milestone” conversations that could be adapted for this episode. Really looking forward to their integration, especially the Broken Men and BF vs JL excellence.

      As I mentioned before, I’m keen on how Jon, Sansa and Davos convey critical info to other major houses. Our favorite Stark crew must attempt to build a strong alliance and also convince their audience that the threat of the undead and WWs is not just a silly campfire tale….something that folks here (particularly Wimsey) have debated for the past year or so.

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    53. HelloThere:
      I don’t know why, but that pic with Olenna, Margaery, and Septa Unella is just glorious, lol.

      Hey, I must specify that I am a woman, but does anyone here finds Septa Unella kind of sexy too?

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    54. aabe: I don’t know. That Lannister armor always remind me of cockroaches.

      I wish u hadn’t said that it now reminds me of a cockroach too

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    55. ash,

      Unfortunately it seems Rickon the is sacrificial lamb, but I hang on to the fact D&D have baited and switched us many times already.

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    56. Goddamn, the costume department never fails to impress. Jaime’s armor has always looked so amazing. The Stark cloaks are just beautiful (hopefully it’s fake fur though).

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    57. Remember the pfoto of Mel we were analysing before the beginning of the season? It WAS a glimpse of Sansa’s gown on the side! It was not visible in ep 5 but the photo above confirms it.

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    58. Louis,

      Actually, in that pic, the guy Probably calls him a bastard, and then sansa steps in

      OR,

      the guy comments as sansa a betrayer and Jon gets angry, follows with a bastard comment – LOL

      Edit: followed by a jab a davos re: stannis

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    59. I would happily trade 100 fiery Dany speeches for a snarky quip or two from Bronn right about now. I’ve been missing that guy!

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    60. Sou: Hey, I must specify that I am a woman, but does anyone here finds Septa Unella kind of sexy too?

      I have certainly noticed that her habit is cut a lot clingier than is typical for Catholic nuns.

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    61. Davos is the real negotiator of the bunch, I have a feeling he’ll be the voice of reason much of the time. Heck, he convinced the Iron Bank.

      Please don’t bring Bronn back just to kill him off!

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    62. Jonsavos look like they are getting read for filth by Lord Glover tbh.

      I wonder where they are camping/sleeping during all this recruiting lol.

      Also…..where did Dany’s horse go in the last episode? I’ve been meaning to ask lol.

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    63. Yaaaass Jaime you lion!

      …and ok Bronn too. But can’t Jaime just the guy just enjoy his retirement??

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    64. ok, I think I would rather do a walk of atonement then have that horrible Unella bitch following me around all day everyday. is it comeuppance time yet?

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    65. aabe:
      Tycho Nestoris,

      And Davos looks defeated or embarrassed.

      That’s not what I see. I see Davos doing what he does most brilliantly: being the loyal lowborn advisor, standing aside and making himself invisible until needed, very carefully listening and observing all that goes on among his ‘betters.’ He can’t be seen among the Northern lords as bossing the Starks around or manipulating them.

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    66. aabe,

      I imagine it’s going to be hard for them to convince those lesser Houses (or anybody south of the Wall) that the White Walkers are real. I think most will have the same reaction Sam’s brother had when the subject was brought up at the dinner table last week. Hopefully Davos can convince them all the Walkers are a very real threat.

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    67. Dee:
      HotPinkLipstick,

      I thought about you yesterday. I was wondering where you have been, haven’t seen you comment much. But low and behold, the way to you is through Jamie Lannister! hahaha

      Aw thanks! I’ve been around but it’s hard to figure out which thread has the active conversation. Is it the open thread, Watchers recap, list of written recaps, list of video recaps, curtain call, anatomy of a scene…and to try to read them all, it’s like 2K comments. I’m overwhelmed!! 🙂

      I hope all is going well and someone is carrying the torch for the comments drinking game.

      Has anyone been using “agency” lately? Are there long, silly diatribes which divide a group into two factions and then define them and predict importance based on those artificial definitions? ..AND WHAT ABOUT SANSA? I haven’t read 200 post discussions about Sansa in ages.

      KG:
      (Wipes drool off her keyboard and lipstick off her monitor)

      (Looks at photo 1 again.)

      (Repeat until Sunday)

      I can only hope for a second photo. *shivers*

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    68. I wonder if they’ll have a montage of Jonsavos approaching the various Northern houses or if they’ll have scenes of them visiting one house that will join them (likely Mormont) and one house that won’t (possibly Glover) as examples and then just mentioning if the other houses have joined them or not. There seems to be more than three Northern scenes in this episode and I am so excited! *happy dance*

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    69. Jack Bauer 24: Making the 8:
      Does anyone think we’ve seen the gag that directors and visual effects folks were talking about in the offseason yet? Sorry I don’t have the link to that interview handy.

      I think it was aged up Mel.

      It was aged up Mel. It was supposed to happen in the Mel bathtub scene with Selyse in S4, but that was changed (the dialogue of that scene strongly indicates that Selyse is seeing the old version of Mel).

      They tried to find a place for it in S5 but couldn’t really find a good scene for aged Mel.

      Finally did it in the first episode of S6.

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    70. Dee,

      I guess I mean they have fooled me many times. All the plot twists have my damn head spinning…I guess that’s one reason I love this show so much.

      Long live the Starks!

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    71. mrspeel,

      I must’ve missed something. I thought Jon was gathering houses for taking WF. Are they spreading WW awareness too or *just* WW awareness?

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    72. Septa Unella hanging around in the Red Keep eh. She might not want to walk past Cersei and her monster. I can’t say I’d be upset if she met a wall too though.

      It’s interesting that Arya is wearing a different outfit than the one she’s wearing in the scene of her jumping off a building. From the quick shot we’ve seen that outfit looks a bit more peasant-ish than the one above.
      http://static2.therichestimages.com/cdn/568/319/90/cw/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/Arya-Jumping.jpg

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    73. HotPinkLipstick,

      UMM
      you missed a massive one after the events of “The Door”

      The crowd was divided in two:
      – Sansa will betray Jon and the siblings will be divided
      – Sansa will not betray Jon blabla.

      Something like that – I wasnt involved much in it. hahaha

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    74. Josh L,

      (the dialogue of that scene strongly indicates that Selyse is seeing the old version of Mel).

      What?
      Why did selyse see her old, and we see her young?

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    75. Jack Bauer 24: Imagine if they give Dany the heads up about Euron, but instead of embracing them Dany neglects them Euron and his ships.

      Here’s what i hope will happen (probably episode 10!).

      Yara will tell Dany/Tyrion/etc that Euron is coming with 1,000 ships and they will together hatch a plan to pretend to take Euron up on his offer, but then instead steal the damn ships from under him. In return for the heads up/help, Dany will kill Euron and restore that driftwood crown to the Greyjoy kids when they all get back to Westeros. Woudl be an awesome way for them to head to Westeros.

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    76. Clob,

      I’d say episode 8 is the episode where she will

      fight and kill the Waif, that image could be from episode 8, also that is the same outfit she was wearing in the Waif vs Arya leaked set photos

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    77. Flayed Potatoes:
      I wonder what Melly is up to lol

      Right? I doubt they would have left her with the Wildlings considering she burned their king. But she’s nowhere to be seen at Deepwood Motte or Bear Island. Maybe they left her watching the horses, LOL.

      I do remember in one of the behind the scenes videos recently released, Carice Van Houten (and Liam Cunningham) was interviewed in a sort of woodsy area and some castle-like building behind her. I could never place that location but maybe it was the Deepwood Motte location and Mel is actually there, just off to the side.

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    78. Jack Bauer 24:
      Am i the only one who likes KL this year? Pryce is an absolute delight to watch.

      I like it very much as well, mostly due to Pryce. He is a phenomenal actor.

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    79. Connor,

      I’m pretty sure the week of shooting involves Arya/The Waif doing a remake of Assasin’s Creed and has nothing to do with Ian McShane.

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    80. HotPinkLipstick: Has anyone been using “agency” lately? Are there long, silly diatribes which divide a group into two factions and then define them and predict importance based on those artificial definitions? ..AND WHAT ABOUT SANSA? I haven’t read 200 post discussions about Sansa in ages.

      Yes. Except the tables have turned! Now it’s everyone complaining about how Jon has no agency. They don’t use that word I guess but seriously is the exact same thing as last season with Sansa.: “Wah wah wah why isn’t Jon (Sansa) doing more s/he should do more s/he’s so quiet why are other characters doing things instead wah wah”

      KG:
      (Wipes drool off her keyboard and lipstick off her monitor)

      (Looks at photo 1 again.)

      (Repeat until Sunday)

      I can only hope for a second photo. *shivers*

      When Jaime looks good… he looks so damn fine.

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    81. Dee:
      HotPinkLipstick,

      UMM
      you missed a massive one after the events of “The Door”

      The crowd was divided in two:
      – Sansa will betray Jon and the siblings will be divided
      – Sansa will not betray Jon blabla.

      Something like that – I wasnt involved much in it. hahaha

      Oh thank fuck I missed THAT nonsense.

      Is there a thread yet for “This is all the crap that was predicted by everyone before the season started. Let’s all acknowledge how truly wrong we were.”?

      I’ll mea cupla and admit that I didn’t think Brienne would meet up with Sansa. I thought Brienne would have to suffer for her choice to go after Stannis. I’m sure she’ll suffer later for some other reason.

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    82. Sir Imp hand Strong: As fast as the show is going I assume Arya will be on a ship to Westeros by the end of the episode.

      I’m pretty sure that S7 & S8 will take place entirely Westeros. My speculation is that Dany & the Dothraki will show up in Meereen around E8 and successfully end the Sons of the Harpy in E10. Yara / Theon will probably show up in Meereen in E8 or E10 with their fleet, all ready to bring Dany and the Dothraki, Second Sons, Unsullied, et al back to Westeros. That’ll officially end the Meereenese Knot, and by the end of E10 everybody will be on ships heading back to Westeros.

      Arya, meanwhile, will prepare to depart Braavos in E7, and will have her fight with the Waif in either E7 or E8. After Arya kills off the Waif, she’ll get on a ship and be back in Westeros by E10.

      After that, there’s no body left in Essos, and no reason for anybody else to go there.

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    83. QueenofThrones: Yes.Except the tables have turned!Now it’s everyone complaining about how Jon has no agency.They don’t use that word I guess but seriously is the exact same thing as last season with Sansa.:“Wah wah wah why isn’t Jon (Sansa) doing more s/he should do more s/he’s so quiet why are other characters doing things instead wah wah”

      When Jaime looks good… he looks so damn fine.

      Uh…wait…wasn’t Jon supposed to be on the run because everyone in the NW would turn against him except a chosen few? I’m sure I saw something about that… 🙂

      When it comes to Jon, I’m quoting my woman, Brienne, “…a bit brooding perhaps…”

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    84. HBO CEO of Tits,

      I think he is talking about the

      return of the Hound and that his brief storyline was his favourite storyline/sequence in all of Game of Thrones

      Ian McShanes character has something do with it.

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    85. Jack Bauer 24:
      Am i the only one who likes KL this year? Pryce is an absolute delight to watch.

      I also like KL. Pryce is incredible. But I also love watching all of these “players” trying to out maneuver each other. Its going to explode soon and I can’t wait to see who is left standing.

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    86. Jumbo: They’re not giving it to Jonsa stans by highlighting the height difference.

      LOL, the height difference never stopped Jaime/Brienne shippers. Very tall women with men they can fit in their pockets can be visually appealing too.

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    87. mariamb,

      Ppl are frustrated KL isn’t moving faster, but IMO…
      they aren’t seeing the long game, where the dam is ready to burst and real shit will go down…

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    88. Jack Bauer 24,

      No you’re not, give me KL instead of Essosi storylines anyday – except for Arya – it’s also very interesting that almost no one talks about Jonathan Pryce, he’s absolutely killing it. So delightful to watch his stellar performance indeed.

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    89. Jack Bauer 24,

      King’s Landing >> East Essos

      Not much is happening in KL, but they have good actors. Arya’s storyline picked up considerably because of her interactions with the theater troupe, but the rest of Essos puts me to sleep.

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    90. Pigeon,

      Davos is the real negotiator of the bunch, I have a feeling he’ll be the voice of reason much of the time. Heck, he convinced the Iron Bank

      .

      Very true.
      mrspeel,

      Too bad no one thought to take a selfie with one…. 🙂

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    91. rhymeswithweak:
      Could Arya kill the Waif and take her face on her own or does she not have that power yet?

      Forget Waif, Area’s story suddenly taking the front centre apparently building to big climax in E10.

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    92. Shawn: I think the Glovers originally say no.
      Jon& Co go to bear island and get Mormonts to say yes.

      This in turn convinces the Glovers to join.

      I agree. It’s not going to be easy.

      Sansa is a “traitor” (having married first Tyrion Lannister, *then* Ramsay Bolton), and a woman (even if she is Ned Stark’s daughter). The Northern lords aren’t going to listen to her.

      Jon Snow is a bastard, and an oathbreaker (leaving the Night’s Watch). I’m sure that the first thing many Northern families will do upon seeing Jon Snow at their doorstop not wearing the black would be to try to execute him for leaving the NW. It’s going to take some fancy talking for Jon Snow to convince them that he fulfilled his oath.

      Davos (and Melisandre) are filthy usurpers, as they used to be a part of Stannis’s retinue. No matter which side of the Northern “civil war” you fall on, Stannis was fighting against both the Starks and the Lannisters. No Northern family would feel kindly predisposed towards either Davos or Melisandre.

      As hated as the Boltons might be, they still control Winterfell and are officially recognized as the Wardens of the North. Add the fact that they have the Umbers and the Karstarks (and the Manderlys?) on their side, and it’s not going to be easy to convince the other Southern families to team up and take them out, Stark loyalty or no Stark loyalty.

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    93. Ghost takes breaks in the most inopportune moments. Jon could use him in this recruiting business. What is more Stark and more of the North than a direwolf? Really, Jon should limit his hunting breaks. Or Ghost is the smartest of them all and has figured out that the less time he spends with his Stark, the less chance he has of dying.

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    94. When I saw Tim McInnerny in the trailer as a Glover I didn’t even recognize him. It had to be pointed out to me. I can’t believe Lord Percy Percy / Captain Darling from Blackadder is going to be a badass Northern Lord, but… Yeah, I somehow can see it!

      I’m so looking forward to this episode. Jaime vs the Blackfish. The North Remembers. Broken Men. It must have been a nerdgasm of adaptation for Cogman!

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    95. nigglesnush,

      Brienne’s a freak of nature and Jaime’s still tall. It doesn’t count lol Sansa’s supposed to be petite and feminine. I know they couldn’t have predicted this when they cast Sophie but damn does it look weird for her to have towered over every male co-star (bar Sandor) while being submissive to them.

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    96. HelloThere,

      I agree. The emotional parts of S6 clearly lie with Jon, Sansa, Bran, etc and I love it. However, KL has me intrigued because I have no idea what to expect (well, actually I have a few ideas but I am always wrong).

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    97. i wonder if melisandra could get sent down to the riverlands with brienne, maybe to rally the bwb?
      she’s not going to go down well with the northern banners and she’s not in the pic

      would make for awkward travelling companions but probably good TV 🙂

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    98. Littlefinger’s Middlefinger:
      Dee,

      No Dany is more than okay with me, haha. But Bran..
      I wonder what’s going on with the Ironborn as well? I have no idea how they’re going to tie these ends up in 4 more episodes.

      I think Theon and Yara will hand over the stolen ships to Dany for her to get her arse to westeros.

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    99. HotPinkLipstick,

      Is it the open thread, Watchers recap, list of written recaps, list of video recaps, curtain call, anatomy of a scene…and to try to read them all, it’s like 2K comments. I’m overwhelmed!

      Ive had the same problem. I found tho that if you go to the far right of the screen,there is a text box labeled Recent Activity or something like that, showing recent posts, recent threads, most discussed. Click on most recent, and that will show you were the most recent discussions are taking place (and sometimes there are about two or three). What I wish would happen would be that we could bookmark our last thread on a post so we can find our way back to it easily!

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    100. If Arya vs Waif is happening this episode, I’ll be soooo happy. But I think it’ll only be in episode 8. I also think Arya will travel to Westeros with the troup and will join in as an actress in place of the Sansa actress.

      I think the Broken Man scene will bookend the episode, and I’m also starting to think LS is a possibility again (for the finale, that is). I’d give LS a 30-40% chance, given what I think happens at the end of the episode.

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    101. Danny,

      Ghost’s back in direwolf limbo. After the assassination, he should feel the need to be at Jon’s side 24/7. It just doesn’t compute. They’re back to ignoring the bond and the importance of the direwolf.

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    102. Firannion: That’s not what I see.I see Davos doing what he does most brilliantly: being the loyal lowborn advisor, standing aside and making himself invisible until needed, very carefully listening and observing all that goes on among his ‘betters.’He can’t be seen among the Northern lords as bossing the Starks around or manipulating them.

      Oooh, yeah, I like this. He watches, he listens, and then he gets shit done. Truly, Jon & Sansa hit the jackpot with their new adviser.

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    103. trarecar:
      I really hope Jaqen is sending The Waif to die instead of the other way around.I’d hate to think that Ayra is going to have to be watching her back for the rest of her life.If that’s the case, she’ll never be able to go back to Winterfell.

      I think there just might be something to this. The way Jaq-o said, roughly, “either way, a face will be added to the hall,” coupled with the Waif’s behavior (enmity, not so no-one, is it?) and perhaps even his look following some of that (not stink eye but perhaps a mini-version)… I wonder if he’s okay with Arya not becoming no-one.

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    104. There’s no way for me to properly describe how excited i am for Sansa and Jon in this episode and i’m going to be seriously disappointed if their screen time is less than 15 minutes Sunday.

      No Danny and Mereen this episode? GOOD. Also i don’t think Bran is going to be in this episode but i would definitely love a brief appearance with Benjen.

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    105. I’m worried that Ramsay hasn’t been in the last few episodes. The north being reminded might mean something involving rickon

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    106. jentario:
      mariamb,

      Cersei is going to do something impressive and ballsy and steal the show. That’s a given.

      Undoubtedly! And I think that Septa Unella and her bell will have a very bad end. Sadly, I think that clueless King Tommen isn’t long for this show.

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    107. That picture with Jon/Sansa/Davos looks a little grim.
      It’s going to be a hard sell–recruiting in the North
      Let’s be honest
      Davos is a smuggler turned Hand of Stannis, and not from the North

      Sansa- to the outside world-appears to have stood by while her father was executed, remained engaged to Joffrey, married the imp Lannister, then married Ramsay Bolton.

      Jon is a bastard (atm) who probably won’t be able to explain with any credibility his fight with WWs and death and resurrection that made it cool for him to abandon his post at CB-usually a death sentence. Oh and also he has a pack of Wildlings, a direwolf, a giant and a depressed fire witch following him around.

      So here they come, after Robb took many of them to war and death at the Red Wedding, after the Ironborn took advantage of the war of five kings to attack, after Ramsay flayed and threatened anyone who didn’t respect Bolton rule, after several houses have lost their original leadership and/or are in disarray.

      Yeah. Hard sell. But I don’t think it will be for the Mormonts. Just from show examples-Jeor and Jorah? Those men are loyal. And Lyanna Mormont’s letter that there is only one king in the North and his name is Stark.

      I don’t understand the preview where Tormund has to rev up the wildlings to fight for Jon though. I thought them thinking he was a god and knowing he’d come back to life would be enough. They are really downplaying his resurrection imo. I’d still be freaking out a little.

      PS-Jaime looks amazing in the Riverlands. I’m praying Lancel sends him a note or Bronn tells him about that relationship with Cersei. Also-do we even know if he knows that she’s the one that put HS in power just to mess with the Tyrells like a petty you know what? I’m so ready for him to wake up from that hold she has on him that makes him an idiot and takes away all of his personal growth.

      Oh and Marg, Olenna and Septa Unella? I will need to watch that meeting closely to see if the two smartest women in the realm can pass messages to each other without giving anything away to shame nun.

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    108. Jumbo:
      nigglesnush,

      Brienne’s a freak of nature and Jaime’s still tall. It doesn’t count lol Sansa’s supposed to be petite and feminine.

      Nope, Sansa’s tall in the books too. Shockingly, you can be both tall and feminine at the same time, and height has no correlation to whether or not a person is submissive.

      On another note, yay Blackfish! I hope he drags Jaime’s ass but good.

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    109. HotPinkLipstick,

      I loved yoyr description of so many ‘discussions’ – so right! It is amazing tho, even with those that make me roll my eyes and scroll, there are three times as many that are interesting or funny or informative or all of the above!

      Is there a thread yet for “This is all the crap that was predicted by everyone before the season started. Let’s all acknowledge how truly wrong we were.”?

      That would be good for the off season. But someone would have to keep track of it all and man I wouldn’t wish that job on anyone

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    110. Jumbo:
      nigglesnush,

      Brienne’s a freak of nature and Jaime’s still tall. It doesn’t count lol Sansa’s supposed to be petite and feminine. I know they couldn’t have predicted this when they cast Sophie but damn does it look weird for her to have towered over every male co-star (bar Sandor) while being submissive to them.

      afaik Sophie said they wanted her to appear towering over men, they made her wear high heels to make her look even higher in past seasons.

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    111. RG,

      I’m expecting some epic subliminal exchanges between the two, Olenna is going to serve Lady Grantham levels of sass in this scene.

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    112. Off-Topic Otto,

      I saw something yesterday that I really want to believe. That this was a test for the Waif too-and one she seems to be failing tbh because I don’t think FM should be so emotional or revel in the idea of hurting and killing someone. That’s not their style.
      Maybe Jaqen had the Waif train Arya to play them off each other, and when Arya kills her–she’ll actually pass her test and be allowed to go on her way.

      Tinfoil addition: And it will have something to do with Syrio wanting her to finish her dancing lessons lmao

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    113. Dee:

      Josh L,


      (the dialogue of that scene strongly indicates that Selyse is seeing the old version of Mel).

      What?
      Why did selyse see her old, and we see her young?

      It’s been a while since I watched that scene, but Mel basically says something to Selyse about her being so devout that she can see pass the magic.

      Here’s the scene at YouTube if you want to rewatch it.

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    114. One old man’s opinion:

      Lady Stoneheart does not fit the narrative these two are working in the show.
      LSH is an allegoric tale being woven to reveal ridiculousness of a revenge based system of escalating violence.

      The showrunners are using violence to drive the ratings. The books are anti-war, anti-violence.

      The HBO show has become little more than being about badasses kicking other badasses’ asses. They’ve dropped the main motif of the book series long ago.

      It’s for the best shes out anyway since they would have botched it.

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    115. ash,

      Not saying they aren’t good discussions, just that I don’t have time for it all!

      I SO want a thread of admitting our incorrect predictions.

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    116. These pictures alone signify how epic this episode will be, count all the stuff they wouldn’t want to spoil, and we have another corker.

      Does anyone have any theories about what Sansa is writing up in the episode promo?

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    117. Jumbo: Brienne’s a freak of nature and Jaime’s still tall. It doesn’t count lol Sansa’s supposed to be petite and feminine. I know they couldn’t have predicted this when they cast Sophie but damn does it look weird for her to have towered over every male co-star (bar Sandor) while being submissive to them.

      In AFFC Sansa is described by LF as “a maiden tall and fair” – she had a huge growth spurt sometime during the 3rd-4th book as I recall. I always thought she was taller than Baelish, at least, if not taller than the “average” Westerosi guy. She’s certainly not petite in the books, at least not by this point in time. Arya and Dany are petite, not Sansa.

      And Jon’s height is never fully settled in the book. I’ve read some people say that he must be fairly short because he is described as always wearing LongClaw on his back instead of his hip. But yeah, Sansa being taller than Jon wouldn’t surprise me too much.

      And yah she’s shorter than Clegane in both… obviously. 🙂

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    118. BIG OLE REMINDER:

      You must use spoiler coding! Cover up all that

      Stoneheart chat

      , every bit of it. It’s obvious what you’re talking about even when you think you’re being subtle. Cover it up, this is a post for everyone.

      And please take with several grains of salt anything you hear from people claiming to have heard things from GRRM.

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    119. Sean C.,

      It would be surprising, but then again, “Blood of my Blood” was the first episode in the series without Tyrion or Jon. So far every episode Tyrion had missed had included Jon :
      “You Win or You Die”, “Rains of Castamere”, “First of his Name”, and “Watchers on the Wall”.

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    120. BunBunStark,

      I think Lord Glover is expressing skepticism (and even disdain) with respect to Sansa. He’s the one she’s speaking to when she says she did what she had to, which is probably in reference to marrying Bolton. Seems like some of the Northern families were none to impressed by that…

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    121. Interested in Jon explaining to the Northern lords how he left NW.

      Jamie, Bronn and Blackfish at Riverrun!

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    122. Danny:
      Ghost takes breaks in the most inopportune moments.Jon could use him in this recruiting business.What is more Stark and more of the North than a direwolf?Really, Jon should limit his hunting breaks. Or Ghost is the smartest of them all and has figured out that the less time he spends with his Stark, the less chance he has of dying.

      LOL, it’s probably the latter. Ghost is all caught up with S6 and knows what’s happened to his siblings. He’s come to the conclusion that his best defense is to stay the hell away from the Starks.

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    123. Josh L,

      The only question is, how will Euron fit in to all of this ? If Yara and Theon bring Dany to Westeros what will Euron do ? And how would Yara and Theon manage this ? They don’t have nearly enough ships to bring over 100’000 people (Dothraki + Unsullied + Second Sons should equal approx. 110’000).

      Then again, Jorah said there were 100’000 people in Vaes Dothrak, but perhaps Dany won’t bring them all to Westeros ? After all, many of those will be children, women, and the elderly. Unless the Dothraki are permanently moving to Westeros, I’m not sure they would really come with her.
      Now that Dany has united the Dothraki, the fate of Vaes Dothrak, and the Dothraki people’s future as a society is a little unclear.

      So many questions.

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    124. Sue the Fury,

      Woops, sorry Sue 🙂

      It was Preston Jacobs apparently… but we all know… GRRM could just lie, so it doesn’t confirm or deny anything IMO…
      Common Sense, in the end, makes be think LSH happening wud just be weird @ this point…
      Tho i’ve mostly let it go, a small part of me still yearns for it ,lol

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    125. I love Tyrion, but I don’t need him in every episode. I get Peter Dinklage is the star of the show and tops the bill, and there must be an obligation to feature him in as many eps, but a lil’ 2 minute Meereen update amongst the all the goodness of this episode just isn’t necessary.

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    126. RG,

      Maybe Jaqen had the Waif train Arya to play them off each other, and when Arya kills her–she’ll actually pass her test and be allowed to go on her way.

      Ive been thinking that as well. Jacquens look when Waif walked away was telling to me

      BTW I asked this elsepost but it got lost – Has anyone on the show actually said Waif’s name? We call her that because its in the books. I know she’s supposed to be no one, but I remember hearing a critic not remembering her name and wondering if non readers would know that?

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    127. HotPinkLipstick: Uh…wait…wasn’t Jon supposed to be on the run because everyone in the NW would turn against him except a chosen few? I’m sure I saw something about that…

      Yeah something like that, or that they would all kneel to him and Mel would do something like proclaim him AA loudly.

      And generally I’ve been so wrong all season and. Never thought Brienne would find Sansa. Who could have imagined the concept of Tormund crushing on Bri?? NEVER thought that Jon and SANSA would unite (WHA?!??!), assumed like everyone else Dany would be saved by Drogon (WRONG), thought Cersei would blow up the sept of Baelor last week (NOPE).

      And I’m so excited to be wrong more.

      When it comes to Jon, I’m quoting my woman, Brienne, “…a bit brooding perhaps…”

      That was so brilliant.

      As a side note I need more Brienne in my life this episode but I’m a bit worried that they will just have her as a stinger at the end (Jaime/Brienne reunion) and I will scream.

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    128. Tim McInnerny and Ian McShane in the same episode! It really is incredible how the show manages to get so many big names for such small roles, but then this is the biggest show on TV. There’s too many examples to list, but these two add to the long number of actors who have signed up for cameo roles. I honestly can’t think of another show, ever, to have so many big actors sign up for such roles

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    129. Hy~pe!! Hope we get a glimpse of

      the Hound

      this episode. And that Arya introduces the Waif the the pointy end of Needle.

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    130. Shaz,

      I think Tyrion and Dany might be leaving Meereen in ep 10, so I am just wondering how they can wrap it all up in only 3 episodes..
      I bet he shows up for a few minutes.

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    131. aabe: The preview, summary, and the released pics suggest there will be no Dany or Tyrion scenes.

      Haha, Tyrion absent in two episodes in a row? Not.
      Jaime and the Blackfish look so good! And Bronn!!! I still miss the Bronn-Tyrion duo – Jaime and Bronn never ever came close to that, in my opinion. Arya finally out of the No One Cult. Jon, Sansa and Davos doing the filler recruiting thing till Episode 9, I guess. I wish Davos would go and find Shirren’s pyre, but that could happen in Ep. 9 too since it’s near Winterfell.

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    132. Markus Stark: The only question is, how will Euron fit in to all of this ? If Yara and Theon bring Dany to Westeros what will Euron do ? And how would Yara and Theon manage this ? They don’t have nearly enough ships to bring over 100’000 people (Dothraki + Unsullied + Second Sons should equal approx. 110’000).

      I posted this above, but what about Yara/Theon in their fastest ships warning Dany about Euron coming with 1,000 ships. Then they (probably masterminded by Tyrion) come up with a plan to lure Euron into a trap and steal the ships from him.

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    133. iridium:
      BunBunStark,

      I think Lord Glover is expressing skepticism (and even disdain) with respect to Sansa. He’s the one she’s speaking to when she says she did what she had to, which is probably in reference to marrying Bolton. Seems like some of the Northern families were none to impressed by that…

      As if a fatherless girl in the Middle Ages had a saying on stuff like that…

      I am not contradicting you, it may quite well be as you say, but it would be very unfair!

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    134. The cinematography of the Arya shot is so beautiful. It really makes me wish we could have seen more of Braavos, instead of just the dingy house of black and white.

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    135. QueenofThrones,

      It’s destiny. Sandor and Sansa belong together. I remember Double Ds saying it’s a good thing Rory’s taller than Sophie and that they’d delve deeper into that relationship.

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    136. QueenofThrones,

      Hmm I like the sound of that. I just don’t know if Euron would be dispatched/tricked/screwed over so soon/easily.

      Seems like it would make him slightly irrelevant and unnecessary as a character.

      And even though the show has diverged a lot so this may not hold true for the show, in the books we have heard from Moqorro that nobody will be a greater threat to Dany than the Crow’s Eye. And the latest Aeron chapter definitely reinforces that idea.

      Very intriguing.

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    137. RG:

      I don’t understand the preview where Tormund has to rev up the wildlings to fight for Jon though. I thought them thinking he was a god and knowing he’d come back to life would be enough. They are really downplaying his resurrection imo. I’d still be freaking out a little.

      I think only about 2 dozen or so Wildlings were at CB to see Jon come back from the dead. To them he’s a God, but to the remaining thousands back at Wildling camp (especially the warriors), Tormund still has some convincing to do. And judging from the trailers, we know he succeeds.

      I do agree with the rest of your post, that Team Stark does have a hard-sell on their hands when it comes to the Northern houses. Their various credibility is shot to hell at the moment.

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    138. Random prediction not based on these pictures.

      Jaqen will eventually reveal himself as Lady Crane. Killing the Waif is the final step of Arya’s training.

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    139. Something dramatic must happen or be seen by many up North for the lords to pledge their banners. Hmmm, what could that be?

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    140. RG,

      I think it makes sense why the rest of the Widlings would need convincing. Not all of them saw Jon’s dead body, so not all of them would believe he was some sort of God. The free folk aren’t a monolith , they are a diverse group of people with different tribes, and various superstitions and motivations. And it’s not like they are very used to being organized anyway….this is really unpresedented stuff for them, as their tribes are usually always splintered and fighting.

      They joined up to get past the wall, and now that they are past the wall, I can see some of them having reservations on following orders from a crow, even someone they might respect for bringing them there. They need to be convinced that this is the best thing for them. They aren’t just going to blindly follow Jon without feeling that it is in their best interest to. I believe they will be convinced, but I think it’s worth it to have a scene showing some of the reserved free folk being convinced to go fight for a castle.

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    141. Sou,

      Oh yeah, Im walking now, with a cane at this point but hopefully when school starts up this fall I’ll be in shape again to go running after the kids… thanks.

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    142. ash,
      jentario,
      At the end of season 5, “Jaqen” drinks poison and “dies.” The “Waif” then turns into “Jaqen.” Was the

      kindly man

      who died or “Jaqen” or just generic “no one”? I am so lost on these FM. I understand the changes to the Waif to make her a fighter, I just

      enjoy her book character more for her antithesis to Arya as opposed to the jealous version in the show.

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    143. RG,

      Does Jon really need to mention his death and resurrection? If they are still going to see him as an oath-breaker (which he technically really isn’t), he should just tell people he didn’t feel like he could ever trust his men again after such betrayal and so he left the Watch for everyone’s sake. He’s got the wounds to prove he was attacked. As to how he was able to survive them? Well, he could tell them Mel saved him. Being saved is less spooky than being resurrected. I mean only about 8 people actually saw Jon as a corpse, of those only 3 are with Jon. There is really no need to spread that kind of information around. It’s unimportant for what they are trying to do. I mean Mel would be the only one who I could see wanting people to know what took place with Jon, and only because she now believes he’s the promised one so she would want people to see him as that but I also think she’s learned a hard lesson with the Stannis debacle and will try to be more of an adviser and less of a manipulator.

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    144. Jumbo:
      QueenofThrones,
      It’s destiny. Sandor and Sansa belong together. I remember Double Ds saying it’s a good thing Rory’s taller than Sophie and that they’d delve deeper into that relationship.

      Ugh, no San-San for me… but that’s just my personal opinion. But I honestly don’t think the show has set it up at all. Their interaction when he left KL was lacking the sexual subtext in the book, IMO, and when they interacted generally, I just didnt’ feel any chemistry. I think he feels protective of her, but she is mostly just wary.

      Not to mention Rory is like 30 years older than Sophie (yeah Dinklage/Turner age difference is pretty extreme too but I don’t like that pairing either fwiw).

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    145. DessertCartBoy,

      Oh… now that would be interesting.
      I was thinking the show would trick us into thinking Arya dies and have the Waif return to Jaquen only to kill him and reveal she’s Arya wearing her face.

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    146. Tycho Nestoris,

      Interesting – that whole bit when she came back to HBW was hard to follow, and there could have been some identity switching going on. Mmm I agree with you about

      The Kindly Man – I really miss him, as well as the Waif . I loved the interactions between them and wished they’d been in the show but its different for a reason. Still think of when KM first meets Arya and he shows her the worm and rather than be frightened, she just eats it!

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    147. Jumbo,

      Jumbo:
      QueenofThrones,

      It’s destiny. Sandor and Sansa belong together. I remember Double Ds saying it’s a good thing Rory’s taller than Sophie and that they’d delve deeper into that relationship.

      i really don’t think they’re going that way, it’s more a sandor/arya thing in the show, and not romantic. sandor has been namedropped twice already in arya’s storyline in braavos, i’m really looking forward to seeing them meet again in the riverlands

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    148. Markus Stark: Hmm I like the sound of that. I just don’t know if Euron would be dispatched/tricked/screwed over so soon/easily.

      Seems like it would make him slightly irrelevant and unnecessary as a character.

      And even though the show has diverged a lot so this may not hold true for the show, in the books we have heard from Moqorro that nobody will be a greater threat to Dany than the Crow’s Eye. And the latest Aeron chapter definitely reinforces that idea.

      Very intriguing.

      I’m probably wrong, and biased in my wishes because I hate Euron and want him to sink into the sea ASAP.

      But Tyrion is cleverer than anyone, especially Show!Euron. So I don’t think it’s unrealistic that he could be hoodwinked by Dany’s forces.

      Let’s imagine they left Euron out of the show completely. Yara would have become King of the II and then built some ships and… what? Turtled up I guess? She wouldn’t have even known Daenerys and her Dragons existed. Euron beating Yara and Theon gave the show runners the excuse they needed to put the characters where they need to be – in the show, Euron is the literary definition of an antagonist – someone (or thing) that causes the protagonist(s) to take action. If Yara had just learned about dany some other random way and chosen to go herself, that would seem deus ex machina-y. Plus there wouldn’t be any question about what happens, whereas with Euron, we don’t know who will be at Dany’s side – Yara or Euron?

      Yah he’d just be a one-season / one-shot villain in my scenario, but he surely is not irrelevant.

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    149. I thought it would be kind of cool if Arya defeats the waif and ends up leaving the waif’s face behind per Jaqen’s, “One way or another a face will be added,” line.

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    150. ash,

      OMG

      The lack of a worm was very frustrating. Such a great introduction to the KM! I def get giving more action to the waif in show. I just think her being a more sympathetic and learned (speaking languages, making poisons) character teaches Arya more so than getting whooped by the jealous teacher’s assistant. Apologies for the book rant

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    151. The show has done more to set up an Arya and Sandor reunion than a Sansa and Sandor reunion. In the show, the Sansa/Hound interactions feel like way more of an afterthought than the stuff in the books, especially since there is no scene where Sansa misremembers being kissed by The Hound. From how it’s presented in the show, I doubt Sansa has even spent one second thinking about Sandor.

      The fact that Brienne referred to The Hound as some man pretty much killed off any future subplot of Sansa/Sandor in the show, imo.

      I do wonder if Arya will ever see The Hound again. Tbh, I think I’d look forward to Arya/Sandor reuniting more than Arya/Jon. At least on the show. In the books, Jon and Arya feel so much closer since they are constantly thinking about each other. I so want him to mush her hair again. But then again if I see him mush her head on the show, I’m sure I’ll lose it there too.

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    152. GeekFurious,

      Wait a minute… Arya… Daario… Daario… Arya… they are never in the same place at the same time… Arya… Daario…

      A character has been given a second actor. There will not be a third.

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    153. Fishscales on the Blackfish’s armor. I love the costumes that tie back to the house sigil. Arya is out and about no longer sporting the the ladies of Bravos fav two knot look. There is so much attention given to the small differences that define each cities culture. Finding the subtle messages in every scene makes the show so enjoyable to watch.

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    154. HunterMac87: imagine Theon there with Varys and Greyworm and Tyrion making a joke about the three of them and their similarities haha i can see that scene now

      Oh dear… Tyrion couldn’t help himself I’m sure. They’d better add a self-reference about how that’s enough eunich jokes already!

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    155. lalla & Kamali:

      I’m interested – what do you make of the Sansa/Littlefinger relationship and the Hound’s potential impact upon it?

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    156. MVC:
      lalla & Kamali:

      I’m interested – what do you make of the Sansa/Littlefinger relationship and the Hound’s potential impact upon it?

      i don’t think sandor will have any major impact on sansa’s storyline in the future

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    157. Sean C.: I would be astounded if Peter Dinklage missed two episodes in a row.That has never happened before.So I expect there will be something in Meereen, even if it hasn’t been advertised.

      Dany and Drogon will land in Meereen this week, taking the bird-flies route and beating her 100,000 bloodriders. They’ll arrive in the midst of the madness and mayhem we saw in Meereen in the season trailers. And then, Fire and Blood. Or am I a week early in that prediction?

      I love the Arya image with the Titan in the background. The Titan really makes Braavos for me. I think there’s much more to him than meets the eye, and that we’ll see the Titan in action sometime after the Wall comes down.

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    158. Bronn!!

      Also, that one Lannister on the far right, the one with the fully visible face, looks real familiar too; like some featured extra that also was a Lannister soldier with a line of dialog in a previous season. No idea if that’s true, could be my imagination.

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    159. QueenofThrones,

      Shouldn’t they have to convince Dany of their trustworthiness first? The Ironborn are known for their rebeliousness, whilst Tyrion and Varys are aware of Theon’s treachery against the Starks who treated him as a member of their family despite him being a ward. Yara will have her hands full in their upcoming meeting.

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    160. Tycho Nestoris,

      No apologies nec; we all have our parts in the book that we wish were dif in the show. Can’t help that. At least we still have to books to go back to and enjoy 🙂

      jentario,

      Oh that would be cool! Actually, have

      ‘Arya’s’ death

      happen at the end of the episode and watch the internet explode…

      Tim Jones,

      You guys are cracking me up today!

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    161. ash,

      Yeah, I’ve been having a tough time even remembering in which thread I’ve posted. I mean, I’m really happy for the site and those who run it comment sections are going at such a seemingly break-neck speed (at least it seems much more so than last season), but it’s making it such that I’m having a tough time keeping up.

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    162. iridium,

      In the previews, Sansa’s saying she did what she had to do to survive but it looks like the Mormont sigil is mounted on the walls, and she’s inside. There’s another scene of Glover approaching them and they’re outside – two different scenes. But methinks she’s going to have to answer for being Lady Bolton more than once

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    163. Dee:
      aabe,

      but I thought they said the north will be reminded ?

      Call me an optimist, but I can’t believe they’d cast Tim McInnerny for one scene. I know they’re doing that for McShane, but that was a widely touted cameo. Tim is a lesser known actor worldwide but given the cult status of Blackadder, having him onscreen for 5 mins would be a huge waste. I’m hoping it means that Glover will join them.

      (Pleased to see it confirmed – I thought it was him in the trailer! Now cast Rowan Atkinson, Tony Robinson, Miranda Richardson, Hugh Lawrie and Stephen Fry pls!)

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    164. The trailer definitely makes it appear like Sansa is going to be given hell by all these northern houses for being a Lannister/Bolton. I’d like to think after defending herself umpteen times to belligerent northern lords, that she finds an ally in little Lyanna Mormont. I am almost more excited to see Lyanna MORMONT than grown up Lyanna STARK. Especially if she gets some form of Wylla M’s speech.

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    165. Dee:
      Jack Bauer 24,

      I guess so

      Are they going to get to her before Euron?

      Given the time it takes to build ships (a couple of months), Theon and Yara should be able to arrive before Euron even leaves. Oh wait, it’s the show. Logic need not apply to logistics or supply chains….sorry, I forgot.

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    166. There’s one thing I’m slightly confused about. After Arya killed Trant, Jaqen took the poison and killed himself, but then the Waif turned into him. If Arya does kill the Waif, what stops one of the other Faceless Men turning into the Waif (thus meaning Arya will never be free of her)?

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    167. fairly straight forward episode
      -Riverrun

      Jamie comes up on the siege, the Freys produce Edmure, blah blah blah, i’d imagine it’s pretty close to the book’s plotline. [/ spoiler] once Brianne gets there… who knows but i doubt there’s anything more than her arrival.
      -Northern recruiting, probably will be a mixed bag result. Most houses likely willing to help in some fashion, but not enough to give Jon an Army large enough to beat Ramsay.
      -Volantis, Bro n Sis working on a plot to get Dany to go with them instead of Euron.
      -KL, Tyrells and Cersei will be cranky, and come to the conclusion they either work together or lose their power. Sparrow will start dealing with Loras- or at least he will come up this episode.
      -Braavos, Can Arya just end the Waif now? please. the Waif will be added to the hall of faces and Arya and Joquen will make peace with the situation and she’ll leave for Westeros (probably split over 2 episodes)

      inactive plot lines
      North of the wall- nothing
      Iron Islands- nothing
      Dorne- is that even still a place?
      Oldtown/Horn Hill- nothing
      Meeren- nothing (will throw fans a curve ball by not including Peter two times)
      Dany-wherever she is…nothing gonna happen this episode.

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    168. Oh that fucking last pic, I Don’t give a damn about the Tyrells, don’t start to fuck with me like this when I know you’re killing them all off in the finale.

      (sry for language lol)

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    169. Elizabeth H:
      Is anyone else thinking that Queen margery is only pulling Tommen into the light of the seven to eventually get rid of Cersi? I think she has something up her sleeve, why else would she tell her brother to stay strong, not give in…but then she decides she is going to atone and brainwash Tommen (she got rid of Jaime…now she can get rid of Cersi once she goes on trial) …Just my opinion of what I think MAY happen and her motives

      Marg is most certainly not a genuine believer. She’s playing her game. Her motivation is Ser Loras, primarily. If Cersei gets knocked down in the process, all the better, but I don’t think Cersei is her primary motivation.

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    170. RG:

      I don’t understand the preview where Tormund has to rev up the wildlings to fight for Jon though. I thought them thinking he was a god and knowing he’d come back to life would be enough. They are really downplaying his resurrection imo. I’d still be freaking out a little.

      There’s a difference between Jon and Daeny. All of Dothraki saw her rebirth or that pyre show. Jon was more of a quiet scene that only Tormund, Wun Wun and other Wildlings saw. Not all of them and they would need convincing.

      Tormund will make a case because Jon was the only who tried to save them and died because of that. And Ramsay is going after them or threatened them and Jon is their only hope. It’s out of necessity for them fight which they will at the battle.

      It would be harder to convince other such as Glovers because they just took Deepwood Motte from IronBorn and it probably took some of their men. So they likely decline it because of that and reputation of Sansa, Jon and Wildlings. Not everybody is perfect like Daeny gathering allies left, right and center. But it makes it all the more fun.

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    171. Making the 8:

      Blackfish looks like he IS ready to kick some ass.

      The best trash talking in ASoIaF is castellans insulting their besiegers. The Blackfish’s insolence is exceeded only by that of the castellan at Storm’s End not yielding to Stannis and then calling out Stannis’s riders who used to support Renly, including the remaining Renly Kingsguard amazingly still wearing rainbow cloaks.

      So I’m hoping GoT really lets the defiance rip.

      I would also like to see Jaime’s war council, which became a farce of heads of Houses behaving badly.

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    172. 5th of 5: I think Theon and Yara will hand over the stolen ships to Dany for her to get her arse to westeros.

      Are those enough ships?

      How cool is it going to be to see Theon and Yara meet Dany.

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    173. Hodors Bastard:
      In the “Blood of My Blood” written recap thread,
      As I mentioned before, I’m keen on how Jon, Sansa and Davosconvey critical info to other major houses. Our favorite Stark crew must attempt to build a strong alliance and also convince their audience that the threat of the undead and WWs is not just a silly campfire tale….something that folks here (particularly Wimsey) have debated for the past year or so.

      #doubtingthomas #nekkidjon

      I’m just thinking that if I put my hands into holes in a man’s chest where he’d been clearly and fatally stabbed over and over and over and yet was living, breathing, walking, and talking, I wouldn’t have a problem believing in the undead north of the Wall. Plus Michael McElhatton confirmed that he thought Roose and Ramsay would already know and believe that the White Walkers were real, didn’t he?

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    174. lalla: i don’t think sandor will have any major impact on sansa’s storyline in the future

      Bringing a character back from the “dead” is only done if there is a point to it. Why bring the Hound back if it is not to

      share his knowledge of Littlefinger’s betrayal of Ned Stark?

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    175. Nymeria Warrior Queen,

      Maybe if they numbered each comment so all we had to do was keep track of the number we left off each thread. Wonder if thats doable, since Ive never gotten a response about being able to bookmark threads….

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    176. THE NORTH SCENES HYPE!

      In all seriousness, I thought they MIGHT split up the traveling, but their together here, Bear Island, and even with the Wildlings.

      There’s going to be no montage – seriously, has this show EVER done a montage?

      Also, another reason for the Glovers to refuse them: Theon. The show very deliberately mentioned Deepwood Motte. Now Sansa Bolton turns up having escaped Winterfell WITH Theon GREYJOY asking to go to war against the Warden of the North? Not happening. The Glovers are probably equally pissed with the long association of the Greyjoys with the Starks and their wars.

      It isn’t going to be THAT straightforward with the Mormonts btw. That’s where Sansa says “I did what I had to do to survive,” so you know someone is going to question her. And that’s where Davos talks about the real war, so it’s not some walk in the park on Bear Island either. But at the end, she is a Stark, Jon has Longclaw, and it’s Lyanna Mormont.

      I don’t care at all about Mereen. Haven’t missed Tyrion there at all. I think the show is trying to save a deathly boring book arc by sending some of it’s best or most intriguing characters there (Varys and Tyrion), but I’m not sure that many people care at all.

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    177. Oh, so excited that Tim McInnerny is in this and as a Glover! Have loved him from Blackadder. So very curious what the other lords of the North have to say about what has been going on.

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    178. Luka Nieto,
      Oh he can be mean and intimidating too, I’ve seen him do genuinely scary. Although Lord Percy from Blackadder II is by far my fave. “Percy, play for me”….“Patty cake, patty cake baker’s man” 😀 😀

      HotPinkLipstick
      Hi Pinky, good to see you. Thought you might have overdone it with the pre-season drinking games. Personally I’m just taking credit for the things I got correct and ignoring the far larger numbers of misses. It was one large ship in the trailer, not three smaller ones, therefore I am a genius! 😉

      Tycho Nestoris
      I can’t remember whether it was Sophie or Maisie who said

      the bit about names being crossed off Arya’s list, but I took that to mean she finds out some of the people on it are already dead (like Joffrey), rather than she actually kills them herself. Unless she manages to get to Westeros by ep10 and wreaks some serious havoc?

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    179. gnarlytarly:
      ash,

      Unfortunately it seems Rickon the is sacrificial lamb, but I hang on to the fact D&D have baited and switched us many times already.

      Ooo, yes, but this particular lamb has teeth and claws. He will go down fighting. He won’t take Ramsay with him, exactly, because we have to have the Battle of the Bastards, but Ramsay won’t walk away from Rickon unscathed. I hope that the damage will be done via Ramsay’s own hounds, with Rickon warging in.

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    180. Also FUCK YEAH THE BLACKFISH.

      The show – like the books – has come so far from the war over the Iron Throne (Balon’s death really cemented that). The Lannisters won, the Starks were destroyed, and everything else went their own way.

      But to have the Blackfish remind Jaime, “As long as I’m standing the war is not over,” I squealed and clapped my hands and almost fell off my chair.

      BLACKFISH AND THE NORTH GET HYPE FOREVER

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    181. Jack Bauer 24:

      How cool is it going to be to see Theon and Yara meet Dany.

      I am looking forward to Theon and Tyrion meeting again. Last time they met, they did not like each other much, and were then on opposite sides of the Stark/Lannister war. They both care about Sansa to varying degrees and Theon knows what happened to her after the Purple Wedding and how bad her marriage to Ramsay was. I wonder, if they do meet, if Theon with share this with Tyrion and what Tyrion’s reaction to it would be.

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    182. ash,

      I would love that .
      I usually use my memory and check the time of the last comment I read
      And let’s say a couple hours pass when I can’t check the comments (say I’m working out or something) I remember the time tag of the last comment

      LOL

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    183. ash,

      I, personally, wouldn’t find that particularly helpful, although just because I wouldn’t doesn’t mean others would feel the same.

      Like I said, I’m really happy for the site things are so busy, and if that means I can’t keep up the way I’d like, that’s just how it goes. There is the bonus, at least for me, of missing some of the inevitable whining about things that I, at least, find absurd. If enough folks want a more…focused, or at least easy to keep up with conversation, we can always start a thread in the forums.

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    184. Lulus Mum,

      Makes sense, that’d be more a misunderstanding than an outright lie. Even still

      cersei and gregor dying

      would be pretty surprising imo.

      Plus, how’d Sophie get the script for these other characters to even know what’s going (and not going) to happen? Hmmm

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    185. HelloThere,

      And its gonna be awesome. I love the plotting and the build up. Because they are giving us clues and stuff. And nothing happen overnight either. I don’t see how a plot with Cercei and Zombie mountain can be boring. If all else fails, she will burn something down.

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    186. Dee,

      I neither love nor hate Danny, just indifferent. In terms of her storyline well she needs to get to westros so i can at least start caring about it.

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    187. Simon,
      Yeah, could be. She did seem strikingly empathetic towards Cersei at that point, although Lady Crane asks her in the same conversation (paraphrasing here can’t remember the exact words) if she enjoys pretending so perhaps she is being sympathetic towards Lady C rather then Cersei? Whatever the case, we should find out very soon 🙂

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    188. My collection of theories for the episode at this time:

      (1) Mereen makes an appearance. Maybe to show the progress of the red priestesses and/or set up the pursuit of an alliance with Dorne.
      (2) Yara and Theon are bound for Dany. That seems like the consensus. I think they’ll advise her to neglect Euron’s offer, but I wouldn’t be surprised if she goes rogue and tries to pull another Dracarys moment. Or perhaps it will be true love <3
      (3) Recruiting the Northern armies doesn't go so well. I'm wondering why (a) Sansa isn't considering using the army of the Vale, or (b) why Jon or Davos wouldn't recommend it. It's hard to imagine LF taking a side, but he has to have more of a role in all of this somehow.
      (4) Arya kills the Waif (more of a hope that a solid prediction, fingers crossed)
      (5) Arya travels to Westeros with the acting troupe. She may even kill the Sansa actress. I'd love to see her then take the role (her dialogue with Lady Crane was a potential setup), but I don't buy her as an actress, and I don't think either of those things would happen this week.
      (6) Olenna is the new target of the HS.
      (7) Jaime ain't too happy about being on the side of Walder Frey v. Blackfish.

      I feel kind of in the dark, but regardless, I'm amped for this week!

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    189. Nadia:
      Also, another reason for the Glovers to refuse them: Theon. The show very deliberately mentioned Deepwood Motte. Now Sansa Bolton turns up having escaped Winterfell WITH Theon GREYJOY asking to go to war against the Warden of the North? Not happening. The Glovers are probably equally pissed with the long association of the Greyjoys with the Starks and their wars.

      Honestly, I doubt that’s going to be brought up. Ramsay’s letter to Jon didn’t even mention Theon (almost like he knows Theon didn’t go with Sansa to Castle Black and has exited this plotline completely).

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    190. HotPinkLipstick: Oh thank fuck I missed THAT nonsense.

      Is there a thread yet for “This is all the crap that was predicted by everyone before the season started. Let’s all acknowledge how truly wrong we were.”?

      I’ll mea cupla and admit that I didn’t think Brienne would meet up with Sansa. I thought Brienne would have to suffer for her choice to go after Stannis. I’m sure she’ll suffer later for some other reason.

      I was wrong about Hodor. I theorized years ago that he would be fluent in the Old Tongue, of which “Hodor” was a word. I wanted him to have a big ole conversation when he finally met Wun Wun or Wildlings who spoke the Old Tongue. I still think Hodor is part giant but obviously the rest wasn’t the Hodor story.

      I think this season has leaned toward confirming more of my heartfelt theories, though, than denying them, so I’m happy all in all.

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    191. “The High Sparrow eyes another target” – He’s looking to Dorne. More salt in the Lannisters’ wounds, and more followers for the Seven.

      “Jaime confronts a hero” – Obviously, this is in reference to the Blackfish. At Walder Frey’s behest, Jaime will attempt to ransom Edmure Tulley. This is treacherous, and will put a lot of pressure on the Blackfish to negotiate. Will he let him die, or will Brienne arrive just in time to stop/persuade Jaime?

      “Arya makes a plan” – Apparently, she has some things to wrap up before leaving Braavos. She may want to say goodbye to Jaqen…be careful. She most definitely wants to point out a few things wrong with the Waif before climbing on that boat. The best laid plans, though, always seem to go wrong in GoT. This will get hairy. We’re going to see our first extended chase scene in a long time. Through the winding streets and canals of Braavos….exciting.

      “The North is reminded” – This has double meaning. Jon, Sansa and Davos are out reminding the Northern Houses that Winter is Coming and so are the White Walkers. They will struggle at first, but as the next 2 episodes progress we’ll see them win over more and more to the Stark cause. The other reminding will be by Tormund Giantsbane to the Free Folk. They have forgotten that it was Jon who brought them through the Wall in the first place. It’s Jon for whom they must fight. He’ll remind them…even if he has to smack around one or two.

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    192. Its only logical for Jon and Sansa to have to convince these houses. Ones a official bastard and ones lady Bolton. What these other house must know though and I think will pull them over is the next known alive rightful heir to winterfell, who is a stark, is a prisoner there. And that should be motivation enough. Ready for these plots to start converging. I think this is the last transition episode and the rest are fire works and season conclusions. Dany will reach Mereen end the battle there and turn to westeros, Arya kills the waif, have some sort of interaction with Jaqen. Who I think, knew from the beginning, she could not be no one.
      Starks get the army and end Ramsey, and reclaim the north then start thinking about the WW. KL is less predictable. I don’t think there will be a trial by combat. Sparrow will outsmart Cercei again and she will go ape shit. Casualties will abound, including the birds going stabby on Pycelle,Kevan, Sparrow. Cercei burns the city with Wildfire. Tommen dies.

      Blackfish is not yielding RR, not even if they threaten Edmure. They have had him however long, what sense does that make? I really think, Brienne will be forced to choose whether to off Jaime or not. He took up arms against Catelyn’s kin when he swore he wouldn’t. I personally hope he dies. He’s useless in the show especially. Never taking responsibility, always following , usually Cercei

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    193. Tycho Nestoris,
      I think the main cast get, if not the scripts for the whole thing, then at least a good overview of what’s happening in general, whereas those in smaller roles only seem to know about the things that affect them directly. Although obviously people can pick up stuff from other cast members as well. If I was in it I’d certainly be swapping plot points with others. “Oooh you’ll never guess what my lot are up to….*whisper whisper*….how about you?” Trade WTF moments 🙂

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    194. Luka Nieto: I can’t believe Lord Percy Percy / Captain Darling from Blackadder is going to be a badass Northern Lord, but… Yeah, I somehow can see it!

      Acting! I mean, could you have seen Hugh Laurie doing House given his characters in that series?

      Tycho Nestoris: Plus, how’d Sophie get the script for these other characters to even know what’s going (and not going) to happen? Hmmm

      It turns out that some of the actors get overall scripts and others just get their own scripts. Part of the reason why we had gotten inconsistent stories about whether actors got to see stuff other than their own material was because it has not been consistent! Moreover, Turner and Williams seem pretty chummy: they probably simply talk about what they have done.

      gnarlytarly: but I hang on to the fact D&D have baited and switched us many times already.

      Many times? I cannot even think of one off of the top of my head!

      Ginevra: I hope that the damage will be done via Ramsay’s own hounds, with Rickon warging in.

      The problem is that the show has provided no indication that Rickon can warg. Moreover, I would bet that it would take a very skilled warg to influence Ramsay’s dogs. Animals can resist warging, and Ramsay’s dogs seem to see him as their Alpha. At any rate, given that Rickon is not one of the main characters, I would think that his fate needs to be determined by Jon or Sansa.

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    195. ash:
      RG,

      BTW I asked this elsepost but it got lost – Has anyone on the show actually said Waif’s name? We call her that because its in the books. I know she’s supposed to be no one, but I remember hearing a critic not remembering her name and wondering if non readers would know that?

      The FM are NO ONE – they have no names, they give up their identities when they agree to join. They do not introduce themselves with names, unless I suppose when they are playing a part and assume an identity as part of a mission, which is why Jaqen has a name. So no, she isn’t Waif in the show, the waif was just a nickname Arya gave to her in the books, no one had names, so she made up nicknames for everyone.

      The actress is listed as the Waif in cast listing to denote who she is, but other than that no she has no name on the show. There is enough general online chatter and discussion for most casual watchers to refer to her as the Waif, there really is no excuse a reviewer – a little basic research would give the name. The average joe watching at home that never looks at GOT related social media or reviews or has a friend/co-worker that does (there must be a few) – probably not.

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    196. I am getting sceptical that Jon/Sansa’s campaign trail results in any substantial support. It seems Meli going to come handy somehow and make the King of the North in the end.

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    197. eejazz,

      3b
      -they don’t know he has an army willing to enter they fight. remember sansa lied about how she knew about Blackfish. Jon would know nothing about LF, I would think Davos would at least know of him and his rep…. so proceed with caution

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    198. Connor:
      Clob,

      I’d say episode 8 is the episode where she will

      I suppose it’s possible that the Waif doesn’t find and confront Arya until episode 8… but… I’m a bit more confused now though. In this picture above supposedly from episode 7 she’s wearing the same outfit and same hairdo as in those pictures HBO released before the season of her in the water. http://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/20/590x/secondary/maisie-williams-game-of-thrones-333243.jpg So now I’m wondering why she’s running from someone and jumping off of a building in one outfit and in a canal in another. She’s not Missandei and has a new outfit every time she’s on screen. 😛

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    199. Hodors Bastard: Our favorite Stark crew must attempt to build a strong alliance and also convince their audience that the threat of the undead and WWs is not just a silly campfire tale….something that folks here (particularly Wimsey) have debated for the past year or so.

      Add to that the double whammy: convincing people that a known danger (the Wildlings) are not a threat whereas a mythical one (the Walkers) are a threat.

      My bet is that the Glovers are going to give Sansa et al. the cold shoulder, both because of Jon’s and Sansa’s propensity to figuratively and literally marry enemies! Besides, when does anything ever come easy for Starks? However, House Mormant seems to be the one good bet. At least in the books, the Wildlings are not their nemesis: the Iron Born are. And the Old Bear is from that house, so they are the one house that might have taken all of those ravens seriously. Still, even they never sent aid to the Wall: perhaps they figured that Gramps had gone nuts!

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    200. SerVader:
      FINALLY I hope we get our good ol’ Jaime back!

      I call Jaime in the Riverlands “Jaime doing senior management” which he has not really done before as a Kingsguard. Jaime thinks

      while riding through the besiegers at RR that camping with soldiers and doing warfare is what he really likes to do.

      So I’m wondering what he will choose to do now that he is no longer vowed to the KG. Possibilities open up.

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    201. Trust No One: remember sansa lied about how she knew about Blackfish. Jon would know nothing about LF, I would think Davos would at least know of him and his rep…. so proceed with caution

      I think that the bigger issue is that this is going to be key for Sansa’s part in the story. She does not want LF’s help. However, she probably is going to need it. And at some point, she’s going to have to accept that sometimes you have compromise and accept disagreeable allies in order to accomplish your goals. That seems to be the basic story this year.

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    202. Nadia: Also, another reason for the Glovers to refuse them: Theon. The show very deliberately mentioned Deepwood Motte. Now Sansa Bolton turns up having escaped Winterfell WITH Theon GREYJOY asking to go to war against the Warden of the North? Not happening.

      Sansa doesn’t have Theon. Theon left to go to the Iron Islands and got caught up in the Kingsmoot. He’s currently on a fleet with Yara sailing to Essos.

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    203. Tycho Nestoris: Plus, how’d Sophie get the script for these other characters to even know what’s going (and not going) to happen? Hmmm

      The main actors get the full scripts, not just their parts.

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    204. Kamali:
      The cinematography of the Arya shot is so beautiful. It really makes me wish we could have seen more of Braavos, instead of just the dingy house of black and white.

      It looks like the next few Arya scenes will give you that – running for her life on the streets of Braavos – and it probably has been mentioned before but I didn’t see it, but her outfit reminds me of Syrio’s waterdancer outfits. Wonder where/why/how she procures those threads?

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    205. Kamali:
      The cinematography of the Arya shot is so beautiful. It really makes me wish we could have seen more of Braavos, instead of just the dingy house of black and white.

      It looks like the next few Arya scenes will give you that – running for her life on the streets of Braavos – and it probably has been mentioned before but I didn’t see it, but her outfit reminds me of Syrio’s waterdancer outfit. Wonder where/why/how she procures those threads?

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    206. Does anyone have any prediction/theories on how exactly the Manderly’s will play into this? Their armies have been mentioned twice now but

      No leaks or promo footage of them at the battle of the bastards? I know someone resembling Wyman has been cast, but will he be making his appearance at Bear Island or in episode 8? If so, where is his army in the footage of the battle? And if it’s episode 8, what will be the circumstances behind him switching allegiances? (will he have already declared for the Boltons in episode 7? Then why would Davos even meet with him? Where would they even be meeting? who he is speaking to, etc) This really has me stumped.

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    207. Tycho Nestoris:
      Plus, how’d Sophie get the script for these other characters to even know what’s going (and not going) to happen? Hmmm

      The main actors get the full scripts. In Sophie’s case, however, she didn’t read anything not pertaining to her own storyline — though she knows the details of Arya’s (much like last year), I imagine because Maisie is her sister from another mister and they talk a lot, so she’d know what Maisie is up to.

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    208. Dee,

      i think there gonna be a really cool scene with bran but didn’t want to mention it , the title the broken man might be about him and hodor i hope

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    209. Lulus Mum,

      Regarding the “two truths, one lie” reveal …

      Arya’s list is not a fixed thing. Names can be added and quickly crossed off. Remember the scene in S4 where Arya and the Hound ran into Biter and Rorge? Arya wouldn’t kill Rorge until she found out his name, then immediately killed him right after hearing “Rorge.”

      My guess is Arya *will* cross three names off her list. It’s just that she’ll have to add two names to her list first.

      Name #1 will be the Waif (or whatever name they give her on the show).

      Name #2 is likely going to be Walder Frey at the end of this season.

      My only stumbling block was name #3. I’m fairly certain it won’t be Cersei (her death is reserved for the Valonqar) or the Mountain (that’ll be either the Hound or the Sand Snakes). But the more I think about it, the more I think #3 will be Jaqen H’ghar once Arya realizes who sent the Waif after her.

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    210. ash:
      Nymeria Warrior Queen,

      Maybe if they numbered each comment so all we had to do was keep track of the number we left off each thread.Wonder if thats doable, since Ive never gotten a response about being able to bookmark threads….

      If you Ctrl-F (Cmmd-F on the Mac) on a webpage and type in your name, ash, then you can search and find all of the instances of your name. Of course, it would help if your name was more unique since “ash” could easily be parts of other words or even just a word that doesn’t mean you. But I know if I see Ginevra, I’ve either commented on the thread or should read that comment.

      Also, and perhaps I shouldn’t admit this, but I typically skip at least half of the comments – sometimes 75% or more. I read those I know and love and those who generally have something interesting to contribute, and I skip right over the rest.

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    211. Having just finished S3 for Ripper Street, this is a banner week for GOT, with Jerome Flynn (Bronn/Bennet Drake), Clive Russell (Blackfish/Chief Inspector Abberline), and perhaps even Dean-Charles Chapman (Tommen/Harry Ward) showing up in the same episode.

      Ripper Street generally is a good show to watch if you’re playing “spot the GOT actor”.

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    212. Josh L,

      I buy your explanation of the list issue and I agree that she could put the Waif on it. However I theorize that the third named will be Thoros of Myr who she will run into in the Riverlands either before or after killing Walder Frey

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    213. Blanche Holstein:
      Something dramatic must happen or be seen by many up North for the lords to pledge their banners. Hmmm, what could that be?

      They see a giant.
      A giant should be part of the delegation.

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    214. Trust No One,

      Yeah I get that, but they have to know that the Vale has an army (regardless of LF), and that given their tie to Catelyn, they may likely support a Stark claim to the North. Seems like a somewhat obvious *potential* ally when they are scrambling so hard to find any

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    215. Bluestreaking,

      Possibly, but Arya had Thoros (and Bedric and Red Witch) on her list at one point in S4, then that list got reduced to just Trant, Cersei, Mountain, and Walder Frey at some point between S4 and S5. Why would she suddenly re-add Thoros (and why would the writers not include Thoros if they were planning on having her off him this season?).

      I did see another possible list victim being mentioned in another comment, tho. The actress who plays fake Sansa. I can see Arya adding that actress’s name (because if she’s willing to hire somebody to kill a person solely to get a better role, she’s probably not a nice person), offing her, then taking her face so she can get on a boat to Westeros without being found out. Arya does know how to put on a new face, as we saw in S5E10.

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    216. TFT:
      Any chance of seeing Wyman Manderly?

      Probably not this episode. I’m expecting him at the beginning of E9, before the big battle.

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    217. trarecar: I really hope Jaqen is sending The Waif to die instead of the other way around. I’d hate to think that Ayra is going to have to be watching her back for the rest of her life. If that’s the case, she’ll never be able to go back to Winterfell.

      Oh good point, me too. I got a funny feeling when Waif and Arya were talking and the Waif kept asking Arya all kinds of personal questions – who are members of her family and where are they now … I was glad Arya answered that she didn’t know. Do you think the Waif already had intentions of following Arya around and making trouble?

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    218. Great stuff, and we still have more to come

      Blackfish is great

      Jaimie as Lord of Casterly Rock as I guess he is now is great to see. Part of me suspects this is part of a build-up to the Lannisters and Tyrells having to leave KL, eg they’ll have strong victories in this E7 and E8 but then they’ll crash horrifically at the end

      As for the Starks and Tully’s who they seem to have an inverse relationship (Lannister high and Stark low was when Ice was being melted down and Lannisters were getting their own VS sword)

      Suspect they may go from low, go a bit high, have a blip (being BF loses RR and Rickon dies) but then catapult high. Jon probably inherits the Stark side of things and Sansa the Tully’s (who won’t follow Jon).

      Technically Bran should inherit it all but he’s gone from KitN to lofty 3-eyed crow!

      Great to see some Tyrell soldiers around KL as going by that QoT pic, makes a nice change from Lannisters being de facto Royal Army…especially when mace is sent to Braavos an inexpicably has no Household guard

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    219. Lulus Mum:
      Simon,

      Cersei caused the deaths of Micah, Lady, and Ned. Arya will never forgive Cersei, unless she becomes ‘No One’. The person we saw in Blood of My Blood was Arya Stark and not No One. She was not empathizing with Cersei, but she was feeling sad for Lady Crane actress, whose well-rendered dialogues were about tragedy and cruelty of death. Arya’s conversation later has nothing to do with Cersei, (although we as viewers know that Arya’s estimate of Cersei was accurate) but herself. This was moments after she gazed at Ned’s head prop. At the end of conversation, when Lady Crane asks if Mercy like pretending to be other people, she answers ‘I have to go, my father is waiting’. She is leaving Braavos and Facelessmen, and she is doing that for her father. Avenging Ned involves killing/torturing Cersei. Arya may forgive Hound and Ilyn Payne because they were acting on orders, but Cersei had an active role in destroying Arya’s family. If she moves on, she will no longer be Arya Stark.

      ETA: Also this was Cersei reacting to Joffrey’s death. There is no reason for Arya to feel bad. If Cersei was mourning Tommen or Myrcella, Arya might feel sadness or pity, but not in case of Joffrey.

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    220. I can’t wait for the BF scenes in RR. Plus, Bronn is also there. I detect there will be high levels of sarcasm thrown everywhere.

      the BF not caring the Freys want to hang Edmure. They threaten to hang him and BF will be like , “So what? Piss Off” Calling their bluff and going back inside. The Freys fail because they are so dumb.

      Bronn adding his own snark into the mix. It is going to be so good.

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    221. Have to say that I’m actually looking forward to the adapted AFfC stuff concerning Jaimie and the RL, think it will be done well in the show

      Also worth mentioning, people whinged about it not being included chronologically, but the placement of it in the show may end up making good sense

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    222. Dee:
      I am most excited for the North! then the Riverrun stuff

      SO DAMMMM EXCITED

      Same. But the river land storyline is looking juicy.
      Also I honestly want more Kings Landing, I’m intrigued at the games people play there. They’re all one card away to put all their chips on the table

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    223. Connor,

      Anyone else concerned the waif will beat Arya. Sadly, she’s won most fights so far. If waif wins she could then use Arya face to pretend to be her until the “bitter” end?
      That could be the next major, but heartbreaking, final GOT twist. Hope not but it would be in line with other haunting GOT scenarios.

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    224. imjustsayin: Anyone else concerned the waif will beat Arya. Sadly, she’s won most fights so far. If waif wins she could then use Arya face to pretend to be her until the “bitter” end?

      Oh HELL no – if anything would sour the whole damned experience, it would be seeing Arya’s face but knowing her heart and soul are not Arya’s but some stranger. NO NO NO, that can’t happen. Arya must stay Arya through and through or we riot

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    225. aabe,

      Disagree completely. If Arya remains a vengeance monster she will have no character arc. I didn’t say Arya forgave just that she now has more understanding of the world and that she can, at a distance, put herself in Cersei’s place, and understand how the queen mother must have felt losing her son – having experienced similar emotions and pain herself. Yes the conversation with Lady Crane illustrates her conflicted feelings about what she has to do but also illustrates a maturation in her emotional journey. I’d suggest Arya will be more interested in getting home to Winterfell when she learns some of her siblings are alive than pursuing the names on her list. Besides Cersei will be her own undoing and so Arya will not need to kill her. Maybe she will be in a position to do so but will decide not to like she did with the Hound but it’s more likely Jamie will kill her. If you are right and she doesn’t change there’s no point in her remaining in the story. She might as well die in Bravos.

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    226. Josh L:
      Bluestreaking,

      She does know how to put on a face if she has a face to put on. Last season, she stole a face from the Hall of Faces because she had access to the Hall. Will she be able to steal any, now? Does she know how to make the faces? Will Jaqen share that secret with her? These are the questions at the heart of Arya’s entire Braavos story, IMO. She needs to either take some faces or the secret to making faces with her, and then all of her time will be worth it.

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    227. Myrmidon,

      True, negotiations are going to be in Danys favor, but the Greyjoys do have a lot to offer her.

      I imagine some Tyrion/Theon interactions will be involved. They actually met that one time! Tyrion surely will be surprised at the change he’s gone through.

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    228. Thronetender: Oh HELL no – if anything would sour the whole damned experience, it would be seeing Arya’s face but knowing her heart and soul are not Arya’s but some stranger.NO NO NO, that can’t happen.Arya must stay Arya through and through or we riot

      Agree!!!

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    229. Lulus Mum,

      I think it’s both because if Arya remains intent on revenge she will have become the very thing she hates in others. And actually if she reminds herself about the death of her father she’ll remember Cersei opposed Ned’s execution.

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    230. I wonder if getting denied by Northern houses and seeing how reluctant the Wildlings are is what makes Sansa tell Jon about the Vale? I’m holding out hope that she doesn’t continue to lie about that, and I can’t imagine she keeps that information if they really are having trouble rallying the North.

      Maybe the letter she’s writing in the preview is to the Vale forces?

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    231. They sure do, they have best navy in Westeros and Yara is a most capable commander, but I would expect Varys to be suspicious and perhaps question if it would be wise to trust them with the transportation of their entire army.
      Yes they did, back when half the Starks were alive and Theon was too cocky for his own good! Can’t wait for them to meet, i do believe that we will be in for a treat!

      On another note if it took them an episode to reach Volantis then it’s safe to assume that if Dany leaves Essos in the season finale then she will arrive to Westeros by next season’s premiere.

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    232. iridium:
      BunBunStark,

      I think Lord Glover is expressing skepticism (and even disdain) with respect to Sansa. He’s the one she’s speaking to when she says she did what she had to, which is probably in reference to marrying Bolton. Seems like some of the Northern families were none to impressed by that…

      Her first marriage the argument ‘I did what I had to’ is understandable, even forgivable – she really had no other choice…. but the second marriage… she didn’t have to do that. This is one of the deviations that really didn’t work well in the context of the characters. It severed the plot, not the characters. Since the decision wasn’t developed beforehand, the abruptness of it didn’t really make sense from the characters POV. Neither Littlefiger or Sansa would take such an unnecessary risk, especially as their first option. (Not to mention LF just leaving her there to handle it all alone, grrr.) A little more development might have worked it out, but the show didn’t spend/have time to. You just are forced to accept it and move on.

      So yeah, that is going to be harder to explain away Sansa reasoning behind that, will be interesting to see that they come up with as a good reason

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    233. Simon:
      aabe,

      Disagree completely. If Arya remains a vengeance monster she will have no character arc. I didn’t say Arya forgave just that she now has more understanding of the world and that she can, at a distance, put herself in Cersei’s place, and understand how the queen mother must have felt losing her son – having experienced similar emotions and pain herself. Yes the conversation with Lady Crane illustrates her conflicted feelings about what she has to do but also illustrates a maturation in her emotional journey.I’d suggest Arya will be more interested in getting home to Winterfell when she learns some of her siblings are alive than pursuing the names on her list. Besides Cersei will be her own undoing and so Arya will not need to kill her. Maybe she will be in a position to do so but will decide not to like she did with the Hound but it’s more likely Jamie will kill her. If you are right and she doesn’t change there’s no point in her remaining in the story. She might as well die in Bravos.

      Right. Up to this point young Arya has had a very black and white point of view about her enemies – but we saw some hints of her maturing with the Hound, the FM realized she didn’t hate him anymore before she realized it. She just wasn’t ready to see the other side. This was just another example of her maturing and realizing that her enemies are real people who also care about their family. It doesn’t mean that she will forgive or stop hating them, but like you said put other more important things, like reuniting with her family, above simply living for revenge.

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    234. Guys, I hate to break it to you. But that’s not Deepwood Motte. It’s not wooden.

      (A joke, but I’d understand if the show not going that route with the design.)

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    235. viki,

      You’ve also brought up an important point. Arya has been training at the temple of black and white (why didn’t I see this before) and has now come to the realisation the the world is not black and white but more nuanced and a patchwork of greys – and not surprisingly the also Stark family colour.

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    236. Wimsey: Add to that the double whammy: convincing people that a known danger (the Wildlings) are not a threat whereas a mythical one (the Walkers) are a threat.

      Definitely the wildling factor will be interesting in building their northern alliance. Skepticism will dominate the northern houses! I wonder how Tormund and Wun Wun will factor in these negotiations? (even though I did not see Wun Wun leave with the fun bunch in ep5) What will be the swaying factor for each house?

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    237. The “I did what I had to do to survive” does apply to Joffrey and Tyrion, but not Ramsay. She married him out of choice – her own plot with LF. Just because it went wrong, doesn’t mean the North has to help her take it back.

      That is to say, most women at that time can’t fight against their husbands just because they don’t LIKE them. Sansa might have a harder time getting support – they need to emphasize Rickon

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    238. Simon,

      I disagree a bit. Her ark is that she goes from innocent and pure to vengeful. She doesn’t have to come back from that, nor do I think she can. She has been corrupted as a child and that will stick with her. She almost has to die in the end. I think it would be poetic if she turned down happiness and returned herself the the House of Black and White after her list was completed and donated her face to the wall. Get one final scene with “Arya” assassinating someone.. Though we know it’s not her.

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    239. ash,

      May the power of hot Jaime Lannister heal you!

      QueenofThrones,

      So not into SanSan.

      Lulus Mum,

      I went on the wagon for a while! My liver couldn’t take it. …Okay. Total lie. I have missed you all though.

      Nymeria Warrior Queen,

      I like the site activity too. I just worry about jumping in when I’m so far behind reading.

      I do wonder if I’m going to need to peddle these nude selfies I have of you to D&D to get spoilers this hiatus. I mean, in case you thought I’d forgotten…

      Ginevra,

      I thought I was the only one who searched for my own ID! WoooHoo.

      I love your idea about Hodor, but loved the way he went out as well.

      I am going to take back my prediction that Arya dies this season. It’s next season. 🙂

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    240. Wimsey,

      Littlefingers own advice to tywin. We only make peace with our enemies. Sansa can remember what happened at a later time and settle it then.

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    241. Well drat. I made a big long reply but it appears to be awaiting moderation. 🙂

      Thanks for making me feel welcomed back.

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    242. HunterMac87,

      I’m not against the idea that she has to come back to the temple of black and white but to do so she needs to become no one and to achieve that she has to let go of the past.

      I’m not sure the temple will remain after the long night. Its more probable that all the institutions conceived in this world under a particular understanding will have that certainty undone. I’m seeing no throne, no kingdom, no gods.

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    243. imjustsayin: That could be the next major, but heartbreaking, final GOT twist. Hope not but it would be in line with other haunting GOT scenarios.

      How can Arya contribute to the story if she cannot evolve as a character anymore? Arya will prevail: the question is, how, and at what cost?

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    244. viki: Her first marriage the argument ‘I did what I had to’ is understandable, even forgivable – she really had no other choice…. but the second marriage… she didn’t have to do that.

      So yeah, that is going to be harder to explain away Sansa reasoning behind that, will be interesting to see that they come up with as a good reason

      You’re right that the “I did what I had to do” excuse only applies to one of her marriages and not both. I hadn’t thought of that. The circumstances were vastly different, and I hope the show and Sansa don’t gloss over it when questioned by the Northern lords.

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    245. Angela,

      Is not Edmure now actually Lord of Riverrun, outranks the Blackfish?

      Loyal Tullys would yield if he (Edmure) ordered it, I suspect.

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    246. Hodors Bastard: I wonder how Tormund and Wun Wun will factor in these negotiations? (even though I did not see Wun Wun leave with the fun bunch in ep5) What will be the swaying factor for each house?

      If they are smart, then they will have the Wildlings stay away. It is not just that Northerners would attack a Wildling host: given that the bad feelings exist on both sides, it would be just too easy for a Wildling to “settle an old score” a la Lawrence of Arabia.

      One thing that jumped out at me last week was the vehemence with which Tarley spoke of the Wildlings. If the southerners hate them so, then it really is small wonder that the Umbers were so desperate to cement an alliance with the Boltons. (But, then from what we see and read of the Wildlings’ deeds and feelings to the “southerners,” can we blame them?)

      Shane snow: Littlefingers own advice to tywin. We only make peace with our enemies. Sansa can remember what happened at a later time and settle it then.

      True! However, this can affect multiple scenarios. One reason why I’ve thought that Jon and Sansa are going to have troubles gaining allies is that this is the view we expect the Northerners to take towards the Boltons: no, we have not forgotten the Red Wedding, but a Wildling Invasion is a much more pressing matter.

      That written, all of those things will get put on hold once they actually see wights and realize, sacred feces, they are real!

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    247. richard decredico:
      Angela,

      Is not Edmure now actually Lord of Riverrun, outranks the Blackfish?

      Loyal Tullys would yield if he (Edmure) ordered it, I suspect.

      Maybe. The Blackfish is a black sheep badass, so it is hard to predict what he’ll do. I don’t think he’s just going to hand the castle over to the enemy, no matter what his lord says. And I’m not sure that’s such a bad thing. If POTUS were kidnapped and held at gunpoint by enemy combatants, we should say, “We’re so sorry. You served us well. Your sacrifice will never be forgotten.” But we shouldn’t hand over the keys to the kingdom.

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    248. I was thinking what’s that under the sheet..y is cersei looking at it ….untill I realised it was ollena’s head ….hehehe. ….

      wow arya looks cool….and I want tyrion next episode ….
      and now there was concern among many Jon wasn’t getting many lines ….well that photo does seem to suggest otherwise …seems Jon gets to start the conversation ,,,,

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    249. QueenofThrones: Ugh, no San-San for me… but that’s just my personal opinion.But I honestly don’t think the show has set it up at all.Their interaction when he left KL was lacking the sexual subtext in the book, IMO, and when they interacted generally, I just didnt’ feel any chemistry. I think he feels protective of her, but she is mostly just wary.

      Not to mention Rory is like 30 years older than Sophie (yeah Dinklage/Turner age difference is pretty extreme too but I don’t like that pairing either fwiw).

      I am SanSan to the core (more in book verse) but agree that the sexual undertones where muted and probably side-stepped because Sophie was underage while filming. What I do think D&D did well was show Sandor’s protective nature towards both the Stark girls, when he had no reason to give a damn. I think Sansa got under his skin, same with Arya but for totally different reasons. And I loved that. I don’t think the tale between the three is over by any stretch (I still think Sandor is the “Knight” Sansa dreamed about growing up…just in an unexpected package and not necessarily romantically).
      As for the age different between the actors, that is neither here nor there for me. I never expected for D&D to take the romantic route but even if they did, I don’t ship Rory and Sophie. So the age of the actor doesn’t matter (unless they are underage, then no thanks) as long as it works for the character.

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    250. Queenofthrones,

      That doesn’t matter to be honest. At that day and age, a man who treats his wife brutally isn’t enough to go to war over.

      The only real argument is that Ramsay cannot truly be Warden of the North 1) with Rickon still alive and 2) because of the threat of the WWs. I doubt that latter will be believable. It can’t be because Ramsay is a bad guy.

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    251. Great pics. The Riverrun and North arcs seem exciting. Can’t wait for the North remembers speech

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    252. Simon,

      You’re tripping. Arya was laughing when joffrey was dying in the play. If she sees Cercei needle is going through her. The play made her realize she doesn’t want to be no one, she wants to be Arya and get her revenge. Understanding Cercei position in that situation is logical. Doesn’t make her forgive or forget what she has done to her family. The only maturity she has gotten is she is wasting time in Braavos and need to get back to closing eyes, eyes that matter to Arya Stark.

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    253. Here’s how I see things:

      Arya will face the waif and the true test will be revealed, like people have said, she will kill the waif, Jaqen will be pleased that she passed her final test, the waif losing hers. They part on good terms. The famous chase scene is not a chance at all, but Arya deciding to leave with the theatre troupe, swimming out to their boat that has just left port.

      Btw o/t but Gendry is in bravos. He rowed to KL and stowed in a ship bound for Bravos, thus getting him far away from Meli and the other threats he faced as Roberts’ bastard. There, he has used his trade and found work in a smiths shop. The same shop that Tywin hired and brought over to rework Ned’s VS sword ice? iirc. Gendry will have apprenticed under him this whole time…somehow he makes it to slavers bay where Tyrion meets up with him and offers him a job as Dany’s royal Smith, bringing him back to Westeros.

      LF wrote the letter to Jonsa and co. To bate them into battle against ramsey. What actually causes bastardbowl, is the Smalljon double cross twist, and poor Rickon’s death. It’s LF plan that the two forces decimate themselves, and he can bring the Vale forces in to clean up, thus fulling his goal to become the warden of the north on his way to conquering the 7 kingdoms.

      Hold the door though cuz this backfires on LF. As he’s marching his army of the vale towards WF, with the army et al believing they are going to help, they see the battle has already,for the most part, occurred and the last of boltons remaining forces are defeated. Ramsey how ever thinks he can flee and attempts to escape More on this in a bit.

      First, as LF orders his army to then turn on Jonsa and co, Lord (who I can’t remember his name at this point as this is just spewing from my head as I type but was the one who almost went thru the moon door when Robyn got his eagle) turns against LF and refuses to attack Stark men. The army is now under the control of this lord and LF is taken prisoner.

      Meanwhile, as the Starks know their home better than anyone, Ramsey thinks he’s escaped only to see Sansa. In a moment that Ramsey is startled and already wounded in the Smalljon twist, Sansa drives a dagger slowly into his heart as she gives an amazing speech at how he hurt her so much but that killing him right there and now gives her so much satisfaction. And with that Ramsey meets his end, by the very hand of the person he hurt the most. Oh but did I tell u that at that moment, she feels a kick in her stomach and knows what it means. The death of a monster, is also followed by the confirmation of that monster’s child growing inside her…

      Mean while LF is taken before Sansa after all the dust has settle. Through the assistance of Robyn who shows up at some point during the battle, and learns of the LF plot, orders LF to be thrown thru the moon door. But Sansa says something like screw that, and plunges the same dagger she used to kill Ramsey, into LF’s heart. Saying he’s used her for the last time a look of fear, sadness and remorse comes across LF face as he dies. Yup Sansa sure does have the redemption type season she said she would. The houses that are left standing proclaim her Queen of the North! After a long cheer Sansa looking like the queen she was meant to be, she clutched her stomach and begins to have a miscarriage. Blood dripping down her leg, she stands up straight and with a smile of relief and confidence we cut to black. Episode over.

      Thoughts? Sorry about long post. This literally came to me as I typed it. It is known.

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    254. Well…

      Lyanna Mormont plays a pivotal role in this episode. She knows something significant and does something significant for a major character. TV Guide’s nonsense about Game of Thrones not having the ability to shock their audience anymore? Get back to me on that Monday morning TV Guide…

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    255. Blanche Holstein:
      Interested in Jon explaining to the Northern lords how he left NW.

      Jamie, Bronn and Blackfish at Riverrun!

      Maybe he’ll show his scars to prove that he’s fulfilled his oath

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    256. that sounds awesome did u get that or some of that from reading the books ? if only going by what been shown in show that is an awesome way for that little battle in the north to play out , lord Varys might be sad to head about his old friend finally out of the game, he did enjoy him

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    257. Queenofthrones,

      Yes. Perfect. And I disagree that she had a choice – Littlefinger has her out in the middle of nowhere, giving her this ‘choice’ when she knows she has no place else to go. I’d give her a break, tho understand that the Northmen probably won’t.

      HotPinkLipstick,

      Hee, yeah Jamie Lannister would certainly help, you are sweet. Thanks for the good wishes 🙂

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    258. viki: It looks like the next few Arya scenes will give you that – running for her life on the streets of Braavos – and it probably has been mentioned before but I didn’t see it, but her outfit reminds me of Syrio’s waterdancer outfits. Wonder where/why/how she procures those threads?

      That was my first thought too! I really wish they would have put her in his quilted vest as a nod to him and a gift for those who pay attention.

      I wonder if Arya gets to see Jaqen one last time. I think she knows she can’t risk it but that would be a sad end to their relationship. I am hoping for some kind of twist to this story before Arya grabs her water jet pack and heads back to Westeros. She honestly could be there by episode 8 at this rate.

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    259. i more interested in if the Gendry info of him going over to bravos is book hinted ? because i had my own thoughts that Sam was gonna run into him when he takes a ship from where he goes to learn to be a maester and learns of recipe, dragon glass + steel+ wildfire= VS (or just dragon glass + steel = VS), so sails around to KL for wild fire(this is if its needed ,might just be dragond glass and steel melted together) and to dragon stone (which is where Gendry was rowing from and to ) to pick up dragon glass to use it in making VS swords . when sam runs into him (either at Kl or still rowing lol ) Sam ask gendry who he is where he came from , he replies was blacksmith (sam like oh i need one of them ) was heading to join nights watch but shit happen ,then was going to join brotherhood without banner but shit happend ,now he rowing on way to KL (or was there when sam was getting wildfire in fleebottom harbar area) Sam like well im nights watch and convince him that they need him and that there all brothers there which is what Gendry wants most family feels, so they go and start making VS and dragonglass arrows and weapons , i think that’s all i haven’t slept for ages lol.

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    260. From the preview, it might not end good for Sansa… she did have a choice in marrying Ramsay. She could have gone to the Northern houses instead and rally them, like she’s doing right now. Someone might point that out to her. Most of the Northern houses have lost many of their families/friends in Red Wedding… so her marrying into the Bolton traitors who were backed by the equally hated Lannisters will reduce her significance as the one with the Stark name, in the eyes of the Northerners. Although the bastard, Jon has more chance of getting support because he’s a leader and a war veteran. After all in medieval world, many respects strength.

      I can see Rickon as the one they’ll rally for, and support Jon’s leadership in the battlefield. Sansa will be seen as ‘damaged goods’, which will possibly lead her to go back to Littlefinger. It sucks, which might end up getting true.

      In the end Littlefinger is really the one to be blamed here. He made Sansa believe that he’s the only one whom she can trust and depend on, that his decisions will work in the long run. Sansa took it and paid for it dearly – her reputation and virtue are sullied. Which probably will benefit Littlefinger again because Sansa will have no choice but to return to him again.

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    261. Nadia,

      I honestly would not understand the North’s reluctance to join the Starks. What about “the north remembers” stuff? How about Tywin’s and Roose’s assesment that Sansa is the key to the north and that you can’t rule the north without her? NED told Sansa about the north’s loyalty to the Starks (episode 5). What about always needing a Stark in Winterfell? Were Ned, Tywin, Roose and everybody else wrong about the north’s devotion to the Starks? Which ultimately should overcome any misgivings the houses might have towards Sansa and Jon. Wouldn’t it be considered treason or oathbreaking if these vassal houses refuse to go to war for their liege lords (who Sansa is as the oldest surviving trueborn child of Ned)?

      If the show goes that route, it feels like they are going back on an important Stark quality they have set up for many seasons.

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    262. Darren Prebble:
      that sounds awesome did u get that or some of that from reading the books ? if only going by what been shown in showthat is an awesome way for that little battle in the northto play out, lord Varys might be sad to head about his old friend finally out of the game, he did enjoy him

      Hi there! Thanks for the reply. Tbh, this was one of those Stairway to Heaven moments (although not anywhere near as good lets face it lol) where it just wrote itself and just flowed as I was typing! I have not read the books but plan to after the series is over. I want to experience this ride and then dig deeper with the back stories of the books.

      Wouldn’t it work though? I think so. Cheers! 🙂

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    263. imjustsayin:
      Connor,

      Anyone else concerned the waif will beat Arya. Sadly, she’s won most fights so far. If waif wins she could then use Arya face to pretend to be her until the “bitter” end?
      That could be the next major, but heartbreaking, final GOT twist. Hope not but it would be in line with other haunting GOT scenarios.

      No, I do not think this is plausible, because Arya-Face Waif does afterwards, it would not be things the real Arya would do. Also, how would this work as a book POV, where we can read the main characters’ thoughts?

      I will be interested to see how Arya defeats the Waif, given that the Waif clearly out-classes her in any type of normal combat and anything related to Arya’s training by the faceless men. Needle would be insufficient, because the Waif would not assume Arya was incapable of arming herself…indeed, the Waif would assume the opposite.

      Arya needs an ace-up-the-sleeve to win such a fight, and while the books have hinted at one

      (warging)

      the show has not. It is not impossible that the show will do that even without the setup (indeed, that is my preference) but we will see. There has to be a logic behind how Arya can suddenly defeat someone who just days before totally p’owned her, and I am not seeing a lot of other great options. Hopefully it does not involve outside help. That would dramatically weaken her arc. She’s gotta earn this one on her own.

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    264. Darren Prebble:
      i more interested in if the Gendry info of him going over to bravos is book
      hinted ? because i had my own
      thoughts that Sam was gonna run into
      him when he takes a ship from where
      he goes to learn to be a maester and learns of recipe, dragon glass + steel+ wildfire= VS (or just dragon glass + steel
      = VS), so sails around to KL for wild
      fire(this is if its needed ,might just be
      dragond glass and steel melted
      together) and to dragon stone (which is
      where Gendrywas rowing from and to ) to pick up dragon glass to use it in
      making VS swords . when sam runs into him (either at Kl or still rowing lol ) Sam
      ask gendry who he is where he came
      from , he replies was blacksmith (sam
      like oh i need one ofthem ) was heading
      to join nights watch but shit happen
      ,then was going to join brotherhood
      without banner but shit happend ,now
      he rowing on way to KL (or was there
      when sam was getting wildfire in
      fleebottom harbar area) Sam like well
      im nights watch and convince him that
      they need him and that there all brothers there which is what Gendry
      wants mostfamily feels, so they go and
      start making VS and dragonglass
      arrows and weapons , i think that’s all i
      haven’t slept for ages lol.

      Nope. I have not read the books. And like you I thought something like u described here. But then I thought more likely he will meet Tyrion at some point who knows who he his if I’m not mistaken, though correct me if I’m wrong, and learns of his skill and trade. Knowing of the battle that is coming and thru assistance of kynvara (spelling) they enlist his skills. That’s how he gets back to Westeros. I remember an interview from the writers that said the battle while require everyone to come together to fight the real threat. Where as I see Sam knowing what a VS sword can do, I’m not sure if he and Gendry cross paths. More like the more people in different paths knowing what VS can do, the better. Now, they could entirely meet at some point and Gendry could rework Heartsbane into smaller weapons, mirroring what Tywin did. Hmm that works too. The beauty of these kinds of discussion is they can evolve from the original theory. I love that!!

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    265. Phoenix_from_Ice: In the end Littlefinger is really the one to be blamed here. He made Sansa believe that he’s the only one whom she can trust and depend on, that his decisions will work in the long run. Sansa took it and paid for it dearly – her reputation and virtue are sullied. Which probably will benefit Littlefinger again because Sansa will have no choice but to return to him again.

      I think Littlefinger dies this season, specifically E10. The knights of the Vale will save the day in E09, worming LF back into Sansa’s good graces. But it will not last, as a certain long lost character will soon be returning, and

      he both has an affection for Stark girls and was there when LF betrayed Ned Stark

      .

      Read the teases, my friend. D&D love to hide secrets in the trailer. They gave us a cloaked and hooded Benjen, for example. The aforementioned returning character likely also appears…facing LF in the godswood. Why else would

      the Hound

      be coming back? Characters do not return like this unless they serve a compelling plot point….and causing a certain outstanding book prophecy to be fulfilled would only be icing on the cake. Sayonara, Savage Giant.

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    266. Laura,

      i think she will she Jaqen again . she will kill that chick after her give face to house black and white Jaqen will be happy and then tell her that he was told in the past to find her and train her by bran visiting the past which turns out why Jaqen a man with many face get caught in first place(bran prob tells him of her destiny and that if he helps her she will save him , which is true but its going to get her that put a man life in position needing to be saved lol), was on purpose to meet arya, his first test for her was would she help/give a stranger water if ask nice( save a stranger because there good) she was going to but other fucker didn’t ask nice demanding beer. Jaqen was happy with outcome even tho he got no water, this test is done again at the end of her training to see if she will still use what she learn for good , in refusing to kills some nice actor. death does not come for the wicked and leave the good , death wants his faces one way or another, another face must be added arya gonna be stealing good lives/faces from death and replacing there spot with wicked lives/faces. this is how she offers the names of her list to the many face god ,save someone good make bad guy take place , like what happen at start saves/stole 3 lives and replaces them jaqen help her with that .

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    267. aabe: The preview, summary, and the released pics suggest there will be no Dany or Tyrion scenes.

      Have they ever done two episodes in a row without Dinklage?

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    268. Greyjoy Infrastructure: I’m not sure if the Manderlys have sided with Roose yet,was there anybody cast for any Manderlys.

      There was a casting call for a character where the description sounded suspiciously like Lord Manderly.

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    269. Chad Brick: I think Littlefinger dies this season, specifically E10. The knights of the Vale will save the day in E09, worming LF back into Sansa’s good graces. But it will not last, as a certain long lost character will soon be returning, and

      .

      Read the teases, my friend. D&D love to hide secrets in the trailer. They gave us a cloaked and hooded Benjen, for example. The aforementioned returning character likely also appears…facing LF in the godswood. Why else would

      be coming back? Characters do not return like this unless they serve a compelling plot point….and causing a certain outstanding book prophecy to be fulfilled would only be icing on the cake. Sayonara, Savage Giant.

      Oh is the

      Hound’s return

      for real? That would be awesome then. Although I don’t think Littlefinger’s gonna die this season, in the next one most likely he will. Sansa must reconnect first with her cousin Robin and shift his allegiance to her if they don’t want him avenge his favorite Uncle Petyr’s death.

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    270. Ravyn,

      Shit has to go down in Harpy Town to make D’s arrival with a huge army significant and to help win over the slaves who are less than happy with her now, and to smash the Son’s of the Harpy once and for all.

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    271. i don’t think that tyrion ever did meet gendry , unless u meaning he meets and hear he story over there at same time he hires him to make them like u said. and i don’t think tyrion really know how bad the ww are (he got that warning from mormont that if shit hits the fan they might be in trouble to give that msg to queen to give to king ) andi don’t think he had a way to learn that VS is only way to kill white walker or how bad the need it . i think from tyrion point of view if he gets a blacksmith it would just be for normal swords for dany army to attack men holding the throne. noone but sam and the nights watch know about VS real use is for ww . rest world don’t believe in grumpkins and what not. as onion knight tells gendry he be safe in kinglanding kings guard didn’t know what he look like , only the redwomen new what he look like . so i don’t see why he would go all the way over seas anywhere in westeros be fine just not near stannis and red women area. unlike the imp who everyone new his face and name so he had to go accross the seas bit hard for him to take a new name but gendry golden for just new name , sorry for all things that make this hard to read (for the writting is dark and full or errors lol )

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    272. The Glovers don’t technically hold a Lordship, am I right? So is the correct title Master Glover? Anyway, Robett looks like he’s going to be a real jerk about things. Could be ’cause Sansa married a Bolton, and Jon is seen as an Oathbreaker and Wildling lover. Maybe he’s having a FML moment. He did lose his brother at the Red Wedding (on the show I assume), and just took back Deepwood Motte from the Greyjoys.

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    273. Darren Prebble: i don’t think tyrion really know how bad the ww are (he got that warning from mormont that if shit hits the fan they might be in trouble to give that msg to queen to give to king ) andi don’t think he had a way to learn that VS is only way to kill white walker or how bad the need it .

      Tyrion was more contemplative of Mormant’s note than others, but we should not expect that he believes that White Walkers exist. To put it in modern terms, it is like two people hearing that there are lots of UFO sightings in an area. The Pycelle equivalent just dismisses it as too many people drinking, smoking or something-elsing too much. The Tyrion equivalent does think some odd is happening: but he/she think that it’s some interesting atmospheric phenomenon, or perhaps a nearby military base testing something new and not terribly secretly. Neither of them think “It’s aliens!” because that is absurd. As Samwell’s little brother said: “There’s no such thing.” Still, that does not mean that the Wildlings are not up to something nasty.

      Karen: What’s going to happen when Walder Frey finds out that Ramsay fed his living daughter and grandson to his dogs?

      He’ll probably shrug and ask “which one was she?” And then he’ll go: “Well, that probably fed a lot of dogs, then.”

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    274. ems,

      is that speculation or a hint for something you know for certain? No need to know specifics, my mind is already going back to the message she wrote to Stannis and making its own conclusions.

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    275. How many Broken Men are there and what does this episode intend to say about what a broken man might still achieve? Or if achievement is even the issue. Anybody have any ideas what the theme will be built into?
      Bran, Theon, the Hound, Frankenmonster, Benjen, …

      I might have added Tyrion and Varys, but both of them seem to have overcome their injuries and mental damage and seem to be functioning as whole humans. Yet, they have been profoundly damaged in the past, so would probably qualify. Maybe to show that broken men can still find worth in the eyes of the world and in their own eyes. I’m just thinking off the top of my head now. Can’t wait until Sunday

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