If you were worried that you’d have to wait until season 8 to learn what was behind Tyrion’s reaction to Jon and Daenerys’ eh … boat rocking, then you’ll be glad to know that Peter Dinklage discussed that very moment in a recent interview and offered a few interpretations.
“[I]t’s complicated,” Dinklage admitted to Entertainment Weekly. “A lot of the time with Tyrion, it’s professional and personal. Obviously, he has feelings for Daenerys. He loves her — or thinks he does. She’s awe-inspiring. He’s questioning that because he doesn’t have a good track record for falling in love. There’s jealousy wrapped up in there.”
It’s interesting that Dinklage says that Tyrion’s attraction to Daenerys is “obvious” as the nature of Tyrion’s feelings towards her always seemed up for interpretation. Dinklage went on to explain how Tyrion’s take on the situation is even more complicated than unrequited romantic affection.
“[Tyrion] loves Jon Snow, too. They’re the two people he has the most in common with, in a way — they’re both outsiders in their own families who have refused to follow the path their family has taken, and hopefully for the better. He’s wondering how smart of a move [Jon and Dany getting romantically involved is], because passion and politics don’t mix well. He knows the two of them getting together could be very dangerous.”
Of course, Dinklage didn’t clarify how Tyrion’s opinion on matters will dictate his actions in season 8, but it’ll be interesting to see how his myriad emotions come into play when the final season does finally roll around.
Did not expect Dinklage to say Tyrion had romantic feelings toward Daenerys. Always assumed his “look” outside their door was one of apprehension. Will be interesting to see how his relationship w/ Jon snow develops.
Hodor!
I was torn between seeing him being jealous coz he really does love her, and being from the powerful Lanniste family knowing a thing or to about unexpected consequences, was disturbed by what this is going to mean for their take over of westerous. Id probably have a few questions for both of them, separately, what this means for their plans
Interesting. Ever since Tyrion had that brief, longing look at Daenerys after he tells her that many more men will love her in 6×10, I figured it was a good bet that he’d be one of them. I’m very curious to see how this will play out in season 8 between these three!
Becks,
I always thought Tyrion had feelings for Daenerys after watching the scene they had talking in the Meereen throne room right after Dany broke up with Daario. He gave her a very distinct look when he said many men will love her and I was telling my husband, “He is referring to himself!”
Bros before First of Her Name, The Unburnt, Queen of the Andals, the Rhoynar and the First Men, Queen of Meereen, Khaleesi of the Great Grass Sea, Protector of the Realm, Lady Regnant of the Seven Kingdoms, Breaker of Chains and Mother of Dragons.
Oh Tyrion, dear Tyrion. Don’t betray your Queen, or every cock merchant in the world will be after your manhood.
“[Tyrion] loves Jon Snow, too.”
My eyes…what’s this liquid stuff coming out?
I think Tyrion’s “love” for Daenerys is more of awe with some sprinkling romantic feelings in there.
My reaction to this… “Wait, what?”
Nothing in previous seasons seemed to even imply that Tyrion has feelings for Daenerys.
And the bit about Jon Snow, what again?
“[Tyrion] loves Jon Snow, too. They’re the two people he has the most in common with, in a way — they’re both outsiders in their own families who have refused to follow the path their family has taken,”
How is Jon an outsider in his own family? The only people who didn’t fully like/support him in his early age:
-Catelyn (but she’s not his family, they’re not related)
-Sansa, early on. But not only this was mostly cut from the show, they had a big emotional family reunion.
-Theon, but he’s just an hostage.
Arya adores him, he’s her favorite “stark”, Ned and Rob love him like an actual son/brother. Bran and Rickon are perfectly fine with him.
And they repeatedly talked against people who don’t like him (Arya talking back to sansa, Eddard talking back to Catelyn, etc…)
Comparing that to Tyrion’s life is silly. NO ONE likes him in his family, barring Jaime. His sister wanted him dead his whole life, his father probably wanted him dead his whole life, and sentenced him to death in a sham trial, his cousin schemed against him until he was blackmailed into scheming for him, his uncle is indifferent toward him… Only one who respected him one bit is his aunt, but she’s far away and didn’t interact much.
His only positive family relation is Jaime, but after Joffrey’s business:
-In the books, Tyrion wants to kill Jaime (for Tysha)
-On the show, Jaime wants to kill Tyrion (or wanted earlier, though that plot point will probably vanish like so many others).
Tyrion and Jon stories are far from similar.
This is very, very interesting! That element of Tyrion facing a lifetime of loneliness is always in the background. He always has to pay for love because what girl would fall in love with a scarred imp, right? I thought his feelings for Dany were more of a crush; but here, Peter is suggesting that Tyrion is in love with her. Maybe that’s the cause of his cynicism about politics and love not mixing together well. I mean, if what Peter says is true, then only politicians who don’t love each other can ever marry…which is kind of a crazy idea.
And Tyrion intended for Dany to marry someone in Westeros! Could it be that he wanted her to marry him?! At the time he hatched his plan, there were not many eligible bachelors available, that I can think of, anyway. There was himself, Jaime, maybe the Tarley son…..who else? Jon, being KITN, turns out to be the best choice – in addition to them being smitten with each other! Seems like the best of love and politics. Only cynicism would cause Tyrion to not trust the LOVE part of that alliance, while liking the POLITIC part.
Or maybe he’s just jealous, ’cause he wanted her for himself.
Dany may have been the only (unpaid) woman who showed Tyrion any affection since Tysha. But he’s a married man! To the Queen in the North, no less! It’s not terribly relevant that neither he nor Sansa cares much for the other; that isn’t how marriage works in Westeros. Have we ever heard, or read, anything about “divorce”?
Tyrion has been acting suspiciously for a few seasons now, with he and Varys bemoaning Daenerys actually, ya know, using her dragons. Plus, his season 7 tet-a-tet with his evil sister caused many of us think he’d made a devil’s bargain with Cersei. Add a little jealousy to that brew, and Tyrion could be on the road to a big betrayal.
Yes, they’ve said on the show numerous times that a marriage is not official if it’s not consummated.
Divorce does not exist in the show, but annulment does, at least if you belong to the Faith of the Seven. An annulment can be requested for a number of reasons, one of which being an unconsummated marriage.
Tyrion hasn’t read the books. He met Jon at a feast where Jon had to sit down with the rest of the common folk instead of with his family. Then they left together when Jon banished himself from the family to go join the Night’s Watch. Then after his parents were dead he came back and took over. That’s the extent of Tyrion’s knowledge of Jon’s relationship with his family.
There’s literally been plenty of “open for interpretation” moments between the two. You think it’s odd that one of the first women to actually showcase genuine respect and admiration for Tyrion isn’t enough for him to have SOME type of romantic longing for her? It’s not as if Dinklage stated Tyrion was head over heels in love with her, but he does have a sense of attachment to her.
aiad,
“All dwarfs are bastards in their father’s eyes.” – Tyrion Lannister to Jon Snow
Tyrion-Dany-Jon kind of confirmed! I’ve been saying this for some time now. But to have Peter give his interpretation of that particular scene could mean his feelings for Dany might materialize in S8. GRRM did want a Tyrion-Arya-Jon love triangle in his original pitch, if Dany and Jon decide to part ways, then a Dany-Tyrion union might be the next best thing for the realm. His plea to Dany before she went beyond the wall last season totally makes sense, “If you die, we’re all lost. Everyone, everything.” He’s totally crushing on Dany. That’s good news for Jon-Sansa shippers, Jon and Sansa are free once Dany, Tyrion get it on haha
River,
Except I don’t see Jon and Dany breaking up for anything unless one of them dies.
It’s a tough one. Tyrion clearly respects, admires, even likes Jon. There’s no “better” man in Westeros, and what advisor wouldn’t want a good man for the Queen he dearly loves? But it’s not quite the right time for royal shenanigans, is it. He also doesn’t know who will rise in the South as a potential consort for Dany, if and when they defeat the WW – if Jon’s already bent the knee, what need would they have for a Northern marriage alliance?
When Tyrion advises Dany to dump Daario I think it’s fairly clear the reason is that politically speaking, if she wants to be THE queen, being unattached is the power move. That is if a dudes involved in the mysoginist cesspool that is Westeros it will be assumed he’s in charge, not her. Dragons be damned. Alliance with jon is fine. Hooking up with Jon romantically though, diminishes Danys power. It’s the queen Elizabeth model really.
And yeah duh obviously he has a crush too why is this not clear to everyone else? I think Tyrion is having to question himself if he’s bothered most because he’s jealous or because it’s rational to be bothered for the political reasons. Hence the ambiguous response.
Edward,
It’s a possibility, Dany wasn’t exactly thrilled when Viserys was feeling her up, Jon is no Viserys but I’m not sure she would be on board with the Targaryen incest tradition. Between the two, Jon is more likely to die(though I hope not) but its hard not to think about why he was brought back from the dead. He might be Azor Ahai reborn but another possible explanation is he was brought back to meet Dany, fall in love and create at least one Targaryen baby so that the bloodline continues.
I’ve had a conversation with someone here on the site about Dany and Elizabeth’s similarities, Dany all her life believes that she is the last Targaryen, Elizabeth was the last monarch of the House Tudor, GRRM is pretty obvious here, Tudor/Targaryen, Lancaster/Lannister. Dany wants to break the wheel and start a new era for Westeros, Elizabeth ushered in the Elizabethan era, filled with prosperity and stability. Plus Cersei is so much like Mary I “bloody Mary,” Elizabeth’s predecessor.
I concur that I’d rather have her lead without a King but hopefully she gets something from the boat sex, a Targaryen baby perhaps? Jon has magical “swimmers,” he clearly is someone truly “special” so if anyone can impregnate Dany its Jon.
If Tyrion betrays Dany due to jealousy of Jon Snow I’ll be pretty upset because (1)Tyrion has spoken of “accepting hard truths” numerous times, so someone of his intelligence should understand that Dany has no physical attraction toward him and politically speaking, Dany marrying Tyrion offers absolutely no advantage or gain for Dany, while Dany and Jon Snow getting married makes perfect sense politically and militarily (is there even an eligible bachelor in Westeros other than Jon Snow that could increase Danny’s strength?) and (2) with respect to the show writers, having Tyrion betrays Dany for “love” is absolutely lazy writing and a shortcut to thinking, and the viewers deserve better for the final season.
Brynden Rivers,
Putting aside Jon’s Targ-ness momentarily, Tyrion would actually be the more beneficial political marriage, given that the Westerlands are still in rebellion, while The North has already bent the knee through Jon Snow.
Now, taking Jon’s parentage into account, I would be pretty upset if perhaps the show’s biggest twist/mystery existed just so Jon and Dany could form a political marriage – something that would’ve been just as valid had he been Ned Stark’s son and they married with him as King in the North.
I agree that Tyrion betraying Dany for love, because he’s jealous of Jon Snow, would be lazy and nonsensical. The only love I would accept Tyrion betraying Dany for is his love of his brother. But I can’t see Dany bothering to threaten Jaime’s life at this late stage, so I think that’s a non-starter.
Alternatively, I could see Tyrion abandoning/betraying Dany if he lost faith in her ability to rule the Seven Kingdoms the way in which she claimed she would when he pledged his service to her.
They have briefly hinted at Tyrion having some romantic infatuation with Dany, but him betraying her because of it would be far less credible than him deciding that she’s not the ruler the Seven Kingdoms needs after all.
Interesting interview for the simple fact I would never had said Tyrion loves Dany and certainly not Jon (I feel there is some mutual respect there though). I kind of felt Tyrion was with Dany for the simple fact it gave him a purpose when he was rock bottom and as the story unravels he will question if that purpose is morally correct and potentially switch behind Jon in S8.
BTW, has anyone seen Frikidoctor recently? He’s just made a video on Tyrion in English. With HUGE SPOILERS!!! What do you think?
I have a feeling they may actually end up on opposing sides in a second dance of dragons, Dany isn’t likely to be happy Jon has a better claim than her and he won’t be happy she burnt Sam’s family. A happy ever ending for those two feels very unlikely to me.
I’m avoiding spoilers but I saw something on twitter that apparently he knows who filmed with who in Seville (or who didn’t film together for that matter). As I think a lot of us are avoiding spoilers please don’t post the details without at least covering them up:)
Jon Snowed,
Sure, I won’t. But those who are avoiding spoilers should be extremely careful on the social media and elsewhere, because, if that’s true, that’s a MAJOR PLOT LEAK.
Jon Snowed,
I wouldn’t worry yourself. It’s all blatant nonsense.
After Peter’s interview – I expect that a Dany/Tyrion/Jon love triangle has replaced the original Arya/Tyrion/Jon triangle Martin intended. The original outline said that Jon and Tyrion develop a ‘deadly’ rivalry so his being in ‘love with Dany’ would fit that scenario especially when he finds out Jon is a Targaryen. I don’t think the meeting between Tyrion and Cersei being shrouded in mystery was an accident. Tyrion has always wanted the approval of his family so it makes sense that she uses his insecurity about his family to manipulate him. The clues were all there in Season 7; his watching the Lannister troops get slaughtered, watching Jamie almost die, meeting Jamie and bringing up the rejection he felt from his family, etc. He wears his heart on his sleeve and to me at least it was quite obvious that he is torn about hurting them . I can’t imagine that knowing Cersei is pregnant with his beloved brother’s child he’d want to see her killed now. Now what sort of deal they made, I have no idea but whatever it is, it cant’ be good for Tyrion.
kathy,
Dany vs. Tyrion kind of makes sense, GRRM did say in interviews that the safest character is Tyrion. So killing him off would be so unexpected and will definitely anger a lot of people. Plus the show is on a slightly different path now compared to where the book might be headed, so killing Tyrion is a statement that D&D’s GoT is not GRRM’s ASOIAF. It can happen but I agree that Tyrion’s motives must be better than “unrequited love” for his queen.