Lawsuit involving Nikolaj Coster-Waldau offers up spoiler info for Game of Thrones season 8

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Genuine spoilers have been few and far between this year for the final season of Game of Thrones (curse you, D&D!), so we’ll take what we can get, right? There’s new info today courtesy of a surprising source- a lawsuit involving Nikolaj Coster-Waldau and his former agent. The agreement to resolve the lawsuit reveals an interesting spoiler tidbit for fans.

The Hollywood Reporter states:

An arbitrator finds that an agreement signed by Game of Thrones star Nikolaj Coster-Waldau with Jill Littman and Impression Entertainment was real. The actor is fighting paying the $2 million ordered…

GoT salary: Coster-Waldau is now getting more than $1 million an episode for his work on Game of Thrones. (SPOILER: He’s also signed up for just four episodes in the coming season.)

The agreement confirms that the Kingslayer will appear in just four of the final six episodes of season 8. Now, this doesn’t state he’ll be in episodes 1 through 4 so it’s technically possible that Coster-Waldau (and Jaime Lannister) will last until the very end, and just skip an episode here and there. But with so few episodes, and every single storyline needing to be wrapped up, will Game of Thrones really keep major characters sidelined for long? Jaime Lannister is one of the characters with the biggest target on his back, with a long list of misdeeds and a whole lot of foreshadowing hinting that he won’t survive to the end. With this new info, it just might be that episode four is when the Kingslayer sends his regards for the last time.

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    1. Uh oh. This could spell trouble for the Kingslayer. But maybe he skips the first two episodes and makes it to the end?
      When/If his end comes, I hope Jaime goes down swinging.

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    2. Not too surprised. My prediction has been he dies fighting side-by-side with Brienne. And figure he misses at least one episode via travel or something. So, he’d miss the finale… and one more somewhere.

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    3. mau:
      I think he skips E1 and dies in E5.

      Yeah, that seems the likeliest scenario.

      Although it seems like D&D like checking in with every character in season premieres, so it’s possible we see Jaime traveling in E1 and see him arrive in Winterfell in E3 (not appearing in E2).

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    4. Jay Targ,
      Or maybe they want him to have surprise entrance during battle for WF in E3 and he doesn’t appear at all in the first 2 episodes.

      This 100% confirms that he won’t die before E4.

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    5. mau,

      Well it’s the final season, so prior patterns may not apply, but I’d truly be shocked if Jaime was absent from the first two episodes.

      And yeah, now I’m just wondering if Cersei outlives him.

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    6. If I had to guess, it’s that Jamie makes it to at least ep 5 since that’s supposedly the big battle at KL. I’ve always been fairly confident that he won’t survive, but it won’t make it any easier to see him go. I’m sure he’ll get an epic sendoff though. Either he’ll die killing Cersei (my preference), or die protecting one or more of the Starks.

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    7. mau,

      Agreed, makes a lot of sense. To be honest I’ve always seen Jamie definitely dying but dying a hero so no one in Westeros sees him as the King slayer anymore

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    8. HotPinkLipstick:
      Here is the full decision. Thr didn’t read until the end. NCW is in as all six episodes

      See the last two pages

      This lack of thorough reporting by The Hollywood Reporter is going to run rampant and I bet this rumor won’t die until the end.

      https://pmcdeadline2.files.wordpress.com/2018/09/interim-award-and-chart-c-wm.pdf

      Right you are. Perhaps he was only told of 4 for sure prior to filming? Hmm. Thanks for this! P.S. Seeing the terms ‘NCW’ and ‘GOT’ in legal documents is a bit amusing (not for him).

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    9. HotPinkLipstick,

      When non-journalists do a better job of reporting that real journalists. Smh..

      Although, in that document it credits him for 7 episodes in season 7, but Jamie was actually in 6 out of the 7 (having sat out 7×06). Of course, that could have been a result of editing as it is quite common to move scenes around between episodes.

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    10. Enharmony1625,
      since the top five basically have the same aggreement (because they negotiate as one). If kit is being paid for six episodes NCW would be paidsix as well.

      To reduce season seven episodes from 12 to 7 and the salaries remain the same. the budget woud have definitely increased by a good margin for season seven and more importantly season eight.

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    11. I think this document is actually telling the truth that Jamie is only in 4 episodes. There’s no way he makes it to the end. And I don’t think he makes it out of the North alive.

      I think this document is showing that Jamie only appears in 4 episodes. But due to the way GoT’s is filmed & on so many different locations, the top actors probably just get paid for the full season. So the lawyers added the 2 extra episodes on the end. He won’t be in them but will still get paid for them. So the people suing want their cut from those too. Amazing how someway, somehow spoilers will find their way out. Amazing.

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    12. F*cking greedy Hollywood agents. C’mon Ser Jaime! Don’t compromise your honor. You’ve still got one sword hand and a Valyrian Steel blade. Arbitration is a sham. Let the Gods decide your fate. Demand a trial by combat!

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    13. The Arbitrator looks like a Frey doofus. All he needs is a silly hat, and Jaime could whallop him with his golden hand if he opens his mouth. Or Arya could do a number on him with a knife borrowed from Sandor.

      (Sorry. I detest arbitration and despise arbitrators. They’re not real judges but act like they are – and generally you can’t appeal if they f*ck up your case.)

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    14. Well I never expected Jaime to live, as much as I’ve come to love him. And the books heavily foreshadow Jaime dying with Cersei but maybe it won’t go down like that in the final season. Or maybe he helps defeat the North and he’s like ok gotta go, rushes back to Cersei and defends her in KL. But I’m not sure I like that for his character development. But maybe the 2 episodes he doesn’t appear in are those where he travels to the North then travels back to KL.

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    15. Enharmony1625:
      HotPinkLipstick,

      When non-journalists do a better job of reporting that real journalists. Smh..

      Although, in that document it credits him for 7 episodes in season 7, but Jamie was actually in 6 out of the 7 (having sat out 7×06). Of course, that could have been a result of editing as it is quite common to move scenes around between episodes.

      I’ve been sent the link twice to The Hollywood Reporter in a comment. They haven’t approved it.

      Looking at the document it seems to divide the income on when Nik was paid those amounts. I would say that the second page which includes the residuals from Mama and Oblivion are from one year and the first page which includes the Comic Con and other appearances is from another fiscal year.

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    16. Clob: They paid him enough to get that awful haircut.*zing* 😛

      working class misery in full effect! he rented a boat for an hour, then had a date to get his hair cut at the cheapest haircutter in Flea Bottom, then he got back to work. and what does the public make of it? a several-years-cruise.

      no one understands the working poor, right?

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    17. Damn it. I shouldn’t have read this. (Title should read BIG spoiler I think!)
      I hope he’s just skipping 2 episodes. He’s one of the last few characters I like on the show. I hope they’re not just killing off everyone who isn’t Dany/Tyrion/Sansa etc..

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    18. Wait, what? Jaime is going to die in season 8? I sure didn’t see that coming.

      Said no one ever.

      I think the vast majority of fans assume he’ll die. It’s just a matter of how, when, where, and why. That’s the fun part to speculate about.

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    19. Ten Bears,

      That would have been a hoot… I can see Nikolaj standing up during the arbitration and saying, “I demand a trial by combat!”

      This article is a major spoiler to me. My guess is that he does appear in Episode 1, since we need to catch up with lots of folks in Episode 1, but he may be missing from one of the others, and then he appears in the big battle in Ep 5 as others have suggested. I would be a bit bummed if he has to miss out on the final two episodes.. Of course, if he does have to bow out in Ep4, then that would give Arya more time to travel with his face to find Cersei (for those who dream of such things)

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    20. I too think he has to appear in the first episode as somewhat of a refresher on each character but also to set their direction in motion.

      What I’m curious about is how Jaime would be able to travel to Winterfell without coming in contact with Daenerys’ forces heading the same direction, or J&D themselves north of White Harbor. He could purposely avoid them I suppose, but one would think that would lengthen his travel time and perhaps endanger him even more if he’s alone and Cersei has Lannister forced looking for him. Thoughts of him traveling alone also makes me think of Bronn again. It still seems odd to me that he’d stay “alone” in KL serving Cersei, especially considering she doesn’t even trust him. He could play it smart and perform the functions of a spy. Maybe… I’m hoping Jaime’s first scene involves Bronn catching up and joining him though.

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    21. Clob: I’m hoping Jaime’s first scene involves Bronn catching up and joining him though.

      I could see that as a possibility for sure. I don’t see Bronn sticking with Cersei. Besides, Tyrion will most likely pay more for his services than Cersei will at this point. At least, Tyrion’s offer is still on the table as of Season 7 episode 7.

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    22. Mr Derp,

      Speaking of Bronn, does anyone else find it a little strange that there have been no sightings of Jerome Flynn during the off-season, nor has he given any interviews. I think he’s the only main cast member that hasn’t been spotted, maybe he doesn’t have that big of a role?

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    23. Undead Elephant,

      Hard to say, really. I don’t keep up with the reports too much, but I’m sure others here are more in the know than I.

      I suppose it’s possible that most of his scenes were filmed inside? I dunno. Did we see all of the actors involved in the KL battle on that set? I can’t say.

      I have a feeling we’ll see plenty of undead elephants in season 8 though 😉

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    24. Jaime, NOOO!!!

      OK, I’ve always believed that Jaime will not survive to the end… But this news… It’s a gut punch. Oh gods, old and new, I’ve been waiting for this sadness since late 2013, and even this speculative tidbit hurts my heart.

      Imagine what it’ll be like when S8 rolls out and Jaime actually DIES! It’s good to get this spoiler now so that all us Jaime fans have time to grieve.

      I just wish Jaime does something redeemable, like saving Bran’s life, and then goes out in a blase of glory… Unfortunately, might do some kinslaying along thr way…. Cersei, and he’s the valonqar. Perfect tragedy. Damn, GRRM is skillfull.

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    25. Undead Elephant,

      I suspect Cersei will whack Bronn in Episode 1; give him a few days at the Septa Unella spa; or have him reunite with (what’s left of) his Dornish girlfriend Tyene. After all, Cersei was pissed that Bronn set up the Tyrion-Jaime meeting. Besides, Bronn seemed a bit too self-assured of his status during the walk to the dragonpit.

      And who knows? Maybe the Mother of Madness will blame Bronn for Jaime’s decision to join up with Ned Stark’s dolt bastard and the silver haired bitch (I think that’s what she called them).

      Bronn not tagging along with Jaime is a harbinger of bad news.

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    26. Tron79,

      Oh no! I don’t want to see Arya wearing people’s faces anymore. They’ve fired that “gun” three times already. I don’t want to watch every single scene and wonder if one of the characters is really Arya in disguise.

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    27. Undead Elephant,

      *Sighs*

      I responded but my comment was stuck into moderation purgatory and was then unceremoniously dumped into the ether.

      I do wonder if it’s a bad sign that Bronn hasn’t been spotted filming, but then again, I haven’t kept up too much with the filming reports, so someone out there most likely knows much more than I. It’s possible that most of his filming was done inside too I suppose. Was he spotted on the KL set at all? or the Winterfell set? If not, then I’d say it’s curtains for Bronn early on in season 8.

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    28. Undead Elephant:
      Mr Derp,

      Speaking of Bronn, does anyone else find it a little strange that there have been no sightings of Jerome Flynn during the off-season, nor has he given any interviews. I think he’s the only main cast member that hasn’t been spotted, maybe he doesn’t have that big of a role?

      Bronn/Jerome Flynn isn’t main cast. He might be a fan favourite but he’s a classical side-kick, comedic relief character, a foil to main characters like Tyrion or Jaime. He doesn’t have a character arc of his own.

      I wouldn’t mind seeing Bronn do the right thing despite remuneration or lack thereof, but the way the show is going, he’s just another sellsword. In the books,

      he’s already got his castle, no thanks to Tyrion or Jaime. Thanks to his own self-seeking ruthlessness.

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    29. I say he doesn’t make the last episode because he’d mentioned wrapping up which was a bit earlier than the final battles… if I recall correctly. I think he’s at peace with his ending… and likely it’s one of bravery for the right reasons, which his recent interviews suggests, as he was frustrated with being whipped by Cersei, and then he called D&D to tell them it was a grand ending. He gets to be a better man than Cersei’s dog.

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    30. Jaime could use some extra protection from Bronn. He does have a Valyrian sword, but that might not be enough when there are a lot of wights. But he might not meet them until he’s near Winterfell. I hope he has something to make fire with him too.
      If he stays at a distance behind the Dothraki, he might not meet them either until he arrives.
      I think he’ll arrive when Winterfell is already under siege.
      He’ll skip an episode in the beginning while traveling.

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    31. On the topic of character deaths… While browsing around just now I came upon a poll asking “who will be the first character to die in S8.” It had limited options, but it did get me thinking about it. When considering only main and longtime secondary characters, knowing little of anything about the season don’t we almost have to put Beric, Tormund and Edd at the top of the list? While I would find it an odd decision for the NK to go all the way over to Castle Black, if he does I have to believe at least one of them doesn’t make it out alive. Even if he doesn’t, all three are likely to head for Winterfell and find themselves unprotected along the way. Whatever the scenarios those three are probably the ones that will be in danger immediately when the season begins. With that in mind I find myself believing Edd will be the first casualty of the season. They seem to have something left for Beric and Tormund. On the other hand, Edd and the rest of the NW are no longer really necessary anymore, in the capacity they have been for centuries.

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    32. talvikorppi: Bronn/Jerome Flynn isn’t main cast. He might be a fan favourite but he’s a classical side-kick, comedic relief character, a foil to main characters like Tyrion or Jaime. He doesn’t have a character arc of his own.

      What you mean is that he is not a main character, which I agree with. But Jerome Flynn has been a member of the main cast since the second season (he was recurring cast in season 1).

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    33. My guess is that Jaimes first scene will be him arriving in Winterfell. And I think it’s save to assume that Dany and Jon will arrive first there. And I don’t think episode 1 will all be about character arriving and emotional scenes. My guess is that Jaime will be seen in episode 2 the earliest. And I think he and cercei will die in the same scene.

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    34. Ten Bears:
      Tron79,

      Oh no! I don’t want to see Arya wearing people’s faces anymore. They’ve fired that “gun” three times already. I don’t want to watch every single scene and wonder if one of the characters is really Arya in disguise.

      I actually agree that I would rather see Maisie on screen than whoever’s face she would be wearing, but I realized something…

      If Jaime will only be in 4 episodes, then no one can be wearing his face in a 5th or 6th episode, since that would really be Nikolaj wouldn’t it! It’s kind of obvious now that I think about it, but it knocks down some fan theories.

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    35. Clob,

      I think Tormund dies in episode 3 if that’s when the AOTD and the North will have their battle. Tormund belongs in the North. He’ll die in the North. At least, that’s my belief. There’s bound to be a few heartbreaking deaths during that battle.

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    36. Clob,

      I love Edd, I hope you’re wrong about him being a goner. He needs to live long enough to tell Jon the Wall coming down was nothing to do with him. (As you probably remember the last thing Jon says to him before leaving Castle Black was something like don’t knock it down while I’m gone.) I can just imagine him being the last person alive, rolling his eyes and doing his best Eeyore impression as he surveys the aftermath of the final climatic battle to end them all. “Huh, typical, they’ve all died on me and left me to tidy up the mess.” It’s unlikely the show will go for a more comedy feel for S8, but you never know 😉

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    37. What happened to this website? Why are the article updates either in the comments or non existent? Why wasn’t there an update to the supposed game of thrones s8 late airing article from a week ago? There was an EW article debunking it within hours. Why hasn’t there been an update to this article outside of the comment section? Also, why is it that this website runs slow and non-secure on both my android, iphone, and pc? What are you guys doing here??? It seems like less work is put in during this slow off season, even though every bit of information is more crucial than ever! And why are you non-secure?? Every website or blog I go to is secure except this one??? I am very disappointed in WotW as of lately, and I hope you can improve or I am out!

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    38. Ten Bears:
      The Arbitrator looks like a Frey doofus. All he needs is a silly hat, and Jaime could whallop him with his golden hand if he opens his mouth. Or Arya could do a number on him with a knife borrowed from Sandor.

      (Sorry. I detest arbitration and despise arbitrators. They’re not real judges but act like they are – and generally you can’t appeal if they f*ck up your case.)

      Are you in the legal field ?

      Because as someone who is, and who has thoroughly studied arbitration, I can tell you this isn’t quite accurate. Most arbitrators are just as qualified as any judge, and sometimes even more so. Some arbitrators are former judges. Furthermore, the parties who enter into an arbitration agreement elect to solve their dispute this way instead of through State courts for a variety of good reasons that make perfect sense depending on what the issue is about.

      They aren’t forced into it. Arbitrators aren’t forcing themselves onto people, they’re simply there for those who prefer arbitration (and in today’s world, the majority of international contractual disputes are solved via arbitration because that is generally what the parties prefer). Also arbitral awards do not constitute binding legal precedent, so they literally affect no one except the people in question. As for appeals, they can be available depending on applicable law, if the conditions are met.

      I think your hatred of them is a little misguided. And full disclosure, no, I’m not an arbitrator 😉

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    39. Clob,

      I think Edd is a good candidate for an early death next season. I, for one, don’t think there will be a Night’s Watch at the end of this, so Edd doesn’t really have a reason so stick around too long. In fact, maybe most of the Night’s Watch left at Castle Black gets wiped out pretty early on. It would be a good way to really amp up the tension of the NK and the AotD arriving. That, together with taking Karhold and The Last Hearth, would really sell the imminent danger coming for Westeros!

      As for Beric, I feel like he has something of importance to do before he dies, so he could go as early as ep 1 or as late as ep 6 in my mind.

      Others who could be on the chopping block early on (first half of the season) could be Grey Worm or Podrick.

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    40. Ten Bears,

      I will have to admit that it would be odd story-wise if she never uses the faces again in the climax of the story. I fully expect her to pull that trick at least once more, but as long as they keep it very brief (which they’ve been good at doing up until now), I’m okay with it. As long as it isn’t Jamie’s face. I’m not at all a big fan of this theory, and I think it does a disservice to his character. I have faith that neither George or D&D would do this though, so I’m confident it won’t happen.

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    41. Nick20,

      Furthermore, the parties who enter into an arbitration agreement elect to solve their dispute this way instead of through State courts for a variety of good reasons that make perfect sense depending on what the issue is about.

      They aren’t forced into it. Arbitrators aren’t forcing themselves onto people, they’re simply there for those who prefer arbitration (and in today’s world, the majority of international contractual disputes are solved via arbitration because that is generally what the parties prefer). Also arbitral awards do not constitute binding legal precedent, so they literally affect no one except the people in question. As for appeals, they can be available depending on applicable law, if the conditions are met.”

      ——-
      1. No, they don’t “elect” to resolve their disputes this way. Mediation, yes. Arbitration, no. People ARE forced into arbitration. Arbitration provisions are usually contained in fine print in employers’ sign-here-or-f*ck-off one-sided contracts. Mediators are peacemakers.
      2. Big fat cats prefer arbitration because they can screw over the little guy that way. And you know what ? Arbitration is prohibitively expensive. A three-person panel usually consists of blowhard $500 an hour shysters. In real courts, you don’t have to “pay” your judge to do his job.
      3. Grounds for appeals of arbitration awards are virtually nonexistent. Unless you can prove the arbitrator was biased or bribed, you’re stuck with his decision no matter how stupid it is. No evidence? Tough sh*t. Fuzzy math? You’re stuck. Judging a woman’s guilt by whether she weighs more than a duck a la Monty Python and the Holy Grail? No recourse.
      4. I’ve attended arbitrations. I’ve seen dim witted arbitration decisions. I’d rather take my chances with Robyn Arryn and the Moon Door at the Vale.

      Mediators are a different story. They genuinely try to get people to make peace. Arbitrators bill up front, bill at the back end, bill while they’re asleep, and keep billing while they’re watching porn on their cell phones.

      PS You know who’s porn star payoff Non-Disclosure Agreements contain mandatory arbitration clauses. That ought to tell you something.

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    42. Enharmony1625,

      But Arya/Maisie is The Many-Faced Goddess. She doesn’t need someone else’s face to change her look.

      And now for the real reason I don’t want Arya to wear face masks in S8: My Ultra Fanboy ASNAWP fantasy fanfic scenario. (Continued below in 5-10 minutes)

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    43. I know everyone is looking forward to a Jon/Arya reunion, but anyone else really looking forward to a Jaime/Bran encounter? It’s one of my most anticipated potential scenes.

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    44. Jamie dies at the battle of winterfell in Ep.3. Arya gets his face and goes to KL in Ep4 🙂 – 4 Episodes for Jamie Lannister

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    45. Enharmony1625:
      Clob,

      I think Edd is a good candidate for an early death next season. I, for one, don’t think there will be a Night’s Watch at the end of this, so Edd doesn’t really have a reason so stick around too long. In fact, maybe most of the Night’s Watch left at Castle Black gets wiped out pretty early on. It would be a good way to really amp up the tension of the NK and the AotD arriving. That, together with taking Karhold and The Last Hearth, would really sell the imminent danger coming for Westeros!

      As for Beric, I feel like he has something of importance to do before he dies, so he could go as early as ep 1 or as late as ep 6 in my mind.

      Others who could be on the chopping block early on (first half of the season) could be Grey Worm or Podrick.

      I think that there will still be a Night’s Watch at the very end, because Edd is the 999th Lord Commander, and because of the unusual numbering I’ve always thought that the story will end with the 1000th Lord Commander. But who will that be?

      Jaime? (he would be a great LC)

      Tormund? (the ultimate irony)

      Jorah? (following in his father’s footsteps)

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    46. Undead Elephant,

      The reason I don’t think there will be a Night’s Watch at the end is that I believe that the NK and the WW will be completely defeated. There will be no “new” NK, or banishing the NK, or anything of that sort. It would be so unsatisfying to end the story that way. Ultimately Westeros will emerge as a better place at the end, but it will have taken tremendous sacrifice to get there. If the story were to end in a way that suggests this will all happen again some time into the future.. it just doesn’t feel right to me. As for The Wall, it can symbolize many things, but one is undeniably one of division, so for it to stay standing or be rebuilt also feels wrong to me.

      With no AotD, no WW, no NK, and no Wildlings beyond The Wall, there is no purpose for a Night’s Watch. Of course, I could be wrong. 🙂 Maybe the Night’s Watch remains but takes on a different purpose with its 1000th Lord Commander? As for the candidates you listed, Jorah makes the most sense to me, but that would sadly mean Dany is dead I think. I mean, if she survives, wherever she is, there you will find Jorah.

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    47. Ten Bears,

      Me: “Of course you have your tinfoil fanfic excerpts written down.”
      Ten Bears: “Lots of people write down their tinfoil fanfic excerpts.”
      Me: “Lots of c*nts.”

      Sorry, couldn’t resist! 🙂

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    48. Ten Bears:
      Undead Elephant,

      I suspect Cersei will whack Bronn in Episode 1; give him a few days at the Septa Unella spa; or have him reunite with (what’s left of) his Dornish girlfriend Tyene. After all, Cersei was pissed that Bronn set up the Tyrion-Jaime meeting. Besides, Bronn seemed a bit too self-assured of his status during the walk to the dragonpit.

      And who knows? Maybe the Mother of Madness will blame Bronn for Jaime’s decision to join up with Ned Stark’s dolt bastard and the silver haired bitch (I think that’s what she called them).

      Bronn not tagging along with Jaime is a harbinger of bad news.

      a meeting of Bronn and Tyene can be counted out. it would need Elaria Sand in the same scene, as Cersei has promised to feed her well. Indira Varna has stated in an interview that she won’t be back on the show if i’m right, and without her two armlengths away, there’s no chance of Bronn being reunited with the most beautiful rotten corpse in the world in front of a camera.

      to me, this has another disappointing aspect. if i had to ship any unexpected couple, it would have been Bronn and Elaria. I’ve always seen Bronn and Oberyn as sort of “seperated at birth”: both didn’t like to wear protection in their fights for Tyrion’s life. they share similar humor: Bronn’s “killed the right people” made Oberyn smile… in a situation i thought at first view, could very well have escalated. and they both have that special look on their face that never lets you know how long you’ll survive in their presence.

      i would have loved to see Elaria being rescued by Bronn. that would have been a spit-feast.

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    49. I predict Season 8 will premier Mother’s Day Sunday May 12th 2019 – Jon Snow will find out who his Mother and Father are and what his real name is

      The Final Game of Thrones episode will be 6 weeks later Father’s Day Sunday June 16th 2019 – Jon Snow “the shield that guards the realms of men” will choose to sacrifice himself to save the people but knowing that his newborn Princess that was promised will not have parents. I think Sansa and the Hound raise her and have a few sons.

      Game of Thrones season 8 will not be eligible for the 2019 Emmys but Game of Thrones season 8 will sweep the 2020 Emmys which will be good promotion for HBO’s new show The Long Night series.

      I think the new HBO Series the Long Night will premiere after the 2020 Emmy nominations are announced (Summer 2020) and before the Emmys show in September 2020… so

      Season 8 will premiere the first half of 2019 and won’t be eligible for the 2019 Emmy’s

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    50. Enharmony1625,

      “Hey! Get back here!”
      “My brother gave me that tinfoil hat.”
      “Get back…!”
      “Polliver killed my fanfic.”
      “I don’t care if he ate your fanfic. We’re not going in there.”
      (Once inside and seated)
      Polliver: “I know you! You’re the ASNAWP Fanboy! Pour our new friend some ale.”

      [Sorry. Couldn’t resist.]

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    51. Mr Derp:
      Enharmony1625,

      Qyburn’s face?or maybe the Mountain’s face perhaps?

      Lol imagine the Mountain’s zombified face on Arya’s little body. I think Cersei would notice that he suddenly shrunk 3 foot.

      Also she presumably still has Littlefinger’s face. She could pretend to be him and meet Cersei. Imagine Littlefinger stabbing Cersei, sitting on the Iron Throne and then pulling his face off to reveal Arya. Littlefinger would get his wish kind of.

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    52. Mr Derp,

      There is definitely an understated evil to Quyburn, so that creep needs to go, and I can see Arya doing the deed. I suppose she could use his face to try to get close to Cersei, or even The Mountain. Definitely possible.

      Undead Elephant,

      Ha, that would be a hilarious sight indeed. But in seriousness, when she wore Walder’s face she did appear his size and body shape. It’s not touched on in the show much, but in the books it makes it a bit clearer that there is a magical element to the faces. In my mind (for the show at least), the faces change only the wearer’s face while at the same time creates a sort of illusion that fools others into thinking the person wearing the face is that person. Hard to explain, but in a way is a kind of reverse glamour.

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    53. Oh no! I don’t want to see Arya wearing people’s faces anymore. They’ve fired that “gun” three times already.

      I don’t think they sent a primary character away from Westeros for years of intensive training in mystical black martial arts, just to enable the revenge-killing of a now-irrelevant tertiary character and his idiot brood of utterly pathetic goobers.

      I don’t want to watch every single scene and wonder if one of the characters is really Arya in disguise.

      If you think you’re going to have a happy final season, you haven’t been paying attention. 🙂

      Imagine Littlefinger stabbing Cersei, sitting on the Iron Throne and then pulling his face off to reveal Arya. Littlefinger would get his wish kind of.

      Now, that would be all kinds of awesome! Good catch!

      Thanks for labeling this as a spoiler, even though Jaime’s death near the end of the tale has been foreshadowed so many different ways, I’ve lost track of them all.

      Dolorous Edd will survive. The NK is avoiding the place where Winter fell by attacking at Eastwatch, instead of at Castle Black and taking the Kingsroad. Just as Jon Snow got to quit the NW by pointing out that he’d fulfilled his oath by dying for the Watch, Edd gets to hole up at Castle Black because that same oath prevents him from leaving.

      Of course, when the magic goes away, basic physics causes the ice at the base of The Wall to liquefy under compression, and the entire structure collapses all at once. The only survivor is Edd, who is protected by the latrine he happens to be using at the time. 🙂

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    54. Enharmony1625,

      Oh crap…I’ve been bracing myself to lose Jon or Dany, but your comment hit home on the shocking and heartbreaking minor characters we’re bound to lose. Not Pod!?!! Though his death would give Brienne super human strength if she’s fighting someone or something to the death.

      Brienne is probably going to get a front row to Jamie’s death which is going to break her heart, again (Renly). Maybe SHE will get to be the new lord commander. Or she dies saving Sansa, fulfilling her vow to her mother.

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    55. Jack Bauer 24:
      I know everyone is looking forward to a Jon/Arya reunion, but anyone else really looking forward to a Jaime/Bran encounter? It’s one of my most anticipated potential scenes.

      Jaime/Bran is my most awaited potential reunion!

      For Jaime to have any meaningful redemption, he has to confront his most evil deed: defenestrating an innocent child. In order to cover up treason, btw. Bonking the Queen is treason, nevermind she’s your sister… Oh dear… And there’s the fact he killed Dany’s father, albeit for a pretty good reason.

      I don’t expect all those he’s wronged to forgive and forget, but maybe he’ll get a reprieve because ice zombies are about to annihilate all humankind… And he dies somewhat heroically doing the right thing for the right reasons. Maybe most of Westeros (what’s left of it) will still think of him as the Kingslayer, the man with shit for honour, but a few key people will know the truth. Brienne, Bran, a few other survivors, that kind of thing.

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    56. Enharmony1625:
      Ten Bears,

      I will have to admit that it would be odd story-wise if she never uses the faces again in the climax of the story. I fully expect her to pull that trick at least once more, but as long as they keep it very brief (which they’ve been good at doing up until now), I’m okay with it. As long as it isn’t Jamie’s face. I’m not at all a big fan of this theory, and I think it does a disservice to his character. I have faith that neither George or D&D would do this though, so I’m confident it won’t happen.

      Totally agree. IMO Jaime’s Face is and will be out-of-bounds because he’s one of the main characters. Unless he asks her to, it’s almost a parody for her to pass as him. Besides, he finally broke irrevocably with Cersei ; even in death should be allowed to maintain the gulf between them. It’s almost required for Arya to use a Face to access Cersei because Jaqen repeated that Cersei was on her List, so the FM have a vested interest in it. I expect it will be Qyburn or Bernadette, Cersei’s handmaiden who ratted out Sansa and later Shae to the Queen. Qyburn seems more poetic because he MUST die for his mad scientist evil and the likelihood that he caused some Little Birds to die in the Sept explosion. Arya protects children.

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    57. Interesting article so let the speculation commence what this could mean!

      It wouldn’t surprise me entirely if Jamie misses the premiere as he travels North and arrives in Winterfell episode 2, so that could count for one. Also I do expect him to die so this could set-up a death in episode 5 along with Cersei (pure guess on my part). That said, I recall this site running an article about Jamie and Brienne fighting white walkers in episode 4, could that see his death?

      Either way I don’t see this as a genuine spoiler so happy to join the discussion.

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    58. aiad:
      Damn it. I shouldn’t have read this. (Title should read BIG spoiler I think!)
      I hope he’s just skipping 2 episodes. He’s one of the last few characters I like on the show. I hope they’re not just killing off everyone who isn’t Dany/Tyrion/Sansa etc..

      I was unsure of reading it but not sure it’s necessarily a big spoiler I mean it could be but equally it may mean nothing as each actor has missed episodes in every season. It certainly doesn’t confirm his death or his plotline so I’m fine with it.

      I actually love the fact there haven’t been any S8 spoilers leaking out so we are all unsullied when it comes to the final season.

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    59. Mr Derp: Wait, what? Jaime is going to die in season 8? I sure didn’t see that coming.
      Said no one ever.
      I think the vast majority of fans assume he’ll die. It’s just a matter of how, when, where, and why. That’s the fun part to speculate about.

      Exactly stuff like this is the type of “spoiler” I like, it doesn’t confirm anything really but it gives us plenty to speculate about in the absence of any genuine plot leaks. I fully expect Jamie to die but equally he could simply miss two episodes as he has done in prior seasons or his arc could end in exile and he leaves in episode 5 everything is still on the table.

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    60. Clob:
      I too think he has to appear in the first episode as somewhat of a refresher on each character but also to set their direction in motion.

      What I’m curious about is how Jaime would be able to travel to Winterfell without coming in contact with Daenerys’ forces heading the same direction, or J&D themselves north of White Harbor.He could purposely avoid them I suppose, but one would think that would lengthen his travel time and perhaps endanger him even more if he’s alone and Cersei has Lannister forced looking for him.Thoughts of him traveling alone also makes me think of Bronn again.It still seems odd to me that he’d stay “alone” in KL serving Cersei, especially considering she doesn’t even trust him.He could play it smart and perform the functions of a spy.Maybe…I’m hoping Jaime’s first scene involves Bronn catching up and joining him though.

      I too believe Jamie is likely to be in episode one, and had expected him to arrive at Winterfell at the end of the episode and set eyes on Bran. However this could equally happen in episode 2 given there will be a ton of reunions already that episode and it’s likely we will get the White Walkers attacking Castle Black or the Last Hearth in that episode.

      As for Dany’s forces they are all ahead of him in my mind but equally the Dothraki could rape and pillage along the kings road so agree he may have to swerve past them. I’d guess Bronn and Pod will also catch up with him as they won’t stay in Kings Landing.

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    61. Olli:
      I say he doesn’t make the last episode because he’d mentioned wrapping up which was a bit earlier than the final battles… if I recall correctly.I think he’s at peace with his ending… and likely it’s one of bravery for the right reasons, which his recent interviews suggests, as he was frustrated with being whipped by Cersei, and then he called D&D to tell them it was a grand ending. He gets to be a better man than Cersei’s dog.

      Obviously we don’t know for sure but the two main battles are likely to be episode 3 and 5 given Miguel is directing those. However things may spill over episodes and I feel confident there will be some fighting outside of the two mega battles.

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    62. Clob: On the topic of character deaths… While browsing around just now I came upon a poll asking “who will be the first character to die in S8.” It had limited options, but it did get me thinking about it. When considering only main and longtime secondary characters, knowing little of anything about the season don’t we almost have to put Beric, Tormund and Edd at the top of the list? While I would find it an odd decision for the NK to go all the way over to Castle

      I am with you here, I would guess at least one of Tormund, Beric or Edd is going to fall in the first two episodes before any potential battle at Winterfell. Once that kicks off I would expect more casualties such as Jorah, Jamie, Greyworm, The Hound (think he will make it south though), Lord Royce, Lord Glover, Melisandre (assuming she turns up which I feel is likely and for a huge shock Bran or Dany.

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    63. Kevin1989:
      My guess is that Jaimes first scene will be him arriving in Winterfell. And I think it’s save to assume that Dany and Jon will arrive first there. And I don’t think episode 1 will all be about character arriving and emotional scenes. My guess is that Jaime will be seen in episode 2 the earliest. And I think he and cercei will die in the same scene.

      I don’t see Cersei going until the final two episodes myself, Jamie is at risk simply because he’s involved in the battle in the North (or at least we assume he is given how S7 ended).

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    64. Enharmony1625:
      If I had to guess, it’s that Jamie makes it to at least ep 5 since that’s supposedly the big battle at KL. I’ve always been fairly confident that he won’t survive, but it won’t make it any easier to see him go. I’m sure he’ll get an epic sendoff though. Either he’ll die killing Cersei (my preference), or die protecting one or more of the Starks.

      I definitely want to see him kill Cersei, though i have thoughts that her death will have a different spin. I never thought about him dying protecting a Stark but wouldn’t it just be a kick in the ass if he died protecting Bran?
      I am not a fan of this new, lifeless Bran and I have a feeling Jaime’s role in Bran’s current physical state will be swept aside pretty quick (Bran won’t care, he doesn’t care about anything it seems) but I think it might be a more poetic end for him.

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    65. Ten Bears,

      I’m glad you liked my comment, and please feel free to use just my “name” and “title,” which are grandiose enough already, just by themselves.

      The cold open with Walder/Arya was, I believe, a foreshadowing of Arya being in disguise for a longer portion of the final season. Recall how Arya followed cats around the Red Keep? That knowledge, and Jamie’s face (after he dies in Brianne’s arms, mortally wounded whilst protecting Bran?) could be Cersei’s demise.

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    66. I am sure I am probably not the first to bring this up but I have never seen it posted anywhere. Maisie Williams is not left handed but the entire show depicts her as left handed (her sword hand). Feeling that makes it more likely she uses Jaimie’s face in some sort of battle or fight.

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    67. I’m rooting for NCW to take home the statue, for his body of GoT work. Here’s hoping enough voters watched Shot Caller which would increase his chances. Unfortunately a lot of members look at other recent work when deciding on who to cast their vote for.

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