Major New Spoilers Out of Girona with Arya, the Waif, and a Potential TWOW Scene in the Works

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Production in Girona and Ballintoy continues, shooting scenes with the Faith Militant, Arya, the Waif and the Ironborn and possibly setting up for a scene from The Winds of Winter while the Greyjoy siblings take more selfies. Our friends at Los Siete Reinos have also brought us a fresh batch of Game of Thrones season 6 spoilers straight from Girona, Spain. Enjoy!

Major Season 6 Spoilers! 

Anna Kähne photographed extras dressed as uncharacteristically cheerful Sparrows in the Plaça de la Catedral near Girona Cathedral, though the photos offer no hints as what happens in their scenes. More photos are available on her blog.

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Actress Faye Marsay who plays the Waif in the House of Black and White was spotted in Girona wearing her standard sack tunic. 

Javi Marcos of Los Siete Reinos is reporting from Girona and has revealed details of a scene involving Arya and the Waif from this week.

Marcos confirms that Daniel Sackheim (director of season 6 episodes 3 and 4) directed the sequence involving Arya and the Waif. In the scene, the now-blind Arya is begging in the street, and the Waif comes upon her, and starts hitting Arya with a stick- happily, of course.

Another piece of news that Marcos has picked up in Girona is that there’s going to be an action scene with a large number of extras (perhaps as many as a hundred) who will be Gold Cloaks, facing danger or protecting someone. That scene will be filmed in the final days of shooting, around Sept. 13th or 14th.

*Filming speculation includes The Winds of Winter Spoilers*

Rain delayed filming a scene that takes place on a platform decorated with Lannister and Baratheon banner and flags. However, it’s unclear whether the scene takes place in King’s Landing or Braavos. Sources differ in opinion, but the set looks more like a stage than an official, royal platform so there’s a very good chance that this is the set for the Gate, the playhall from The Winds of Winter in which Arya performs as Sansa in a play mocking the Westerosi royal family.

In any case, Game of Thrones sent out a casting call for a Leading Actress who works with a traveling theatre company. So, even if this stage isn’t the Gate, there’s still a good chance we’ll be seeing that play at some point in season 6.

Photo: Los Siete Reinos

Photo: Los Siete Reinos


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has also learned from their local sources that Game of Thrones will be filming a scene with a few extras inside the Banys Arabs, only male characters with at least one major character. L7R has seen evidence indicating that not only will Braavos and King’s Landing scenes be filmed in Girona, but also scenes with the Tarlys.


More Ironborn scenes were shot in Ballintoy today, though the content of those scenes remains left to speculation.

In the meantime, Ballintoy Harbour remains off limits to tourists.

The Red Door Tea Room posted more photos of Gemma Whelan and Alfie Allen. Judging by their clothes, these were taken yesterday but it’s always a treat to see Greyjoys smiling.

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    1. That would be awesome if Arya did the play and all, but she better warging goddammit! It’s the perfect time, she’s blind now, and Nymeria was introduced in this story because she has a bigger part to play in the later part of the story. I really hope that that whole aspect doesn’t get left by the wayside.

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    2. I’m leaning towards subscribing to the idea that Arya views this plays and that’s what prompts her to go back to Westeros.

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    3. Not to nitpick because it’s been a while since the chapter came out, but Arya doesn’t play Sansa in the play. At least that’s not official in any way because Mercy’s character is just an upgraded extra with two lines who is randomly raped by Tyrion. People can theorize but it’s definitely ambiguous and a lot of people still aren’t sure if her character is loosely based on Sansa, Shae, or both.

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    4. As I posted in the others thread, it’s definitely The Gate. See those painted decorations on the sides. They depict The Red Keep from a distance.

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    5. About the Lannister and Baratheon banners, I already said earlier that I think they belong to the stage in Braavos. Besides, while being clearly identifiable as those two banners at least to me they feel slightly off as if not made by someone who is seeing them everyday.

      On the news about blind Arya

      being hit by the waif, that makes me hope that they follow her ADWD(IIRC) storyline of finding out via warging a nearby cat. Only the kindly man exchanged for the waif, which soes make sense

      . That storyline would be great and might create the link to Nymeria and the Riverlands.

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    6. Satin,

      Yeah, I don’t think she’s literally playing Sansa, though the character is definitely meant to evoke Sansa in the reader’s mind, I think. But if the show does adapt the chapter, I guarantee she will actually be playing Sansa, because it’s more interesting and evocative for the visual medium.

      Arya still being blind circa episodes 3-4 suggests to me that skinchanging will be brought in. I can’t imagine any other reason to prolong that plot element. Though with that timeline, plus the possibility of the play, that suggests a return to Westeros will likely be in the second half, at the earliest.

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    7. I just remembered that in Mercy there was an actress named Lady Stork who likes to have wine before each play. In the casting call the leading actress is “in her early 40’s, she’s an elegant actress with a traveling theatre company. Fun, charismatic, rum-drinking actress in the troupe.”

      Well, rum instead of wine then. The casting call is for Lady Stork. Though, they will rename her for sure. Anyone else think she will be the owner of the theater as well instead of Izembaro?

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    8. Pigeon:
      This is all like a massive ‘Choose Your Own Adventure’ book (yes, I’m old).

      Well then I’m old right there with you. I loved checking those books out at my school library.

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    9. Gravemaster,

      Yes, I think they will cut Izembaro to give more important role to a female actress, possible even merging her with the Black Pearl or some other courtesan. I know it is not right, that the courtesans are totally different, but with Lady Stork/Bellegere as the manager of the company Arya joins, they get the opportunity to expose more skin. I think that is the same reason they replaced(combined) Benerro and Moqorro with attractive female(preistess from the casting calls) characters.

      I am happy we get to see the Gate, but wonder what will happen there. Surely Mace Tyrell is not hanging around in Braavos all the time till Arya becomes a beggar, develops warg skills, regains sight, and joins the Gate?

      If Mace go back to Westeros, it will be some other Lannister enovy that will come to Braavos. Who in Team Lannister is left in Arya’s list? Ilyn Payne is mute and cannot be an envoy. Cersei is unlikely to move her ass all the way to Braavos, especially after the Walk. Ser Gregor then? But then what of the Cleganebowl? Maybe Sandor vs Gregor happens, Gregor wins, and goes to Braavos to intimidate(kill?) Mycroft – I mean Tycho – and Arya kills Gregor, avenging everyone he ever tortured AND her old travel-buddy, the Hound?

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    10. So Tom Wlasciha is in Girona, we know. And they’re shooting in the Arab Baths soon.

      If they don’t take this opportunity to give Jaqen a hot tub scene in this beautiful bathhouse, I’m going to assume the writers are trolling us. Somehow.

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    11. WotW staff damn fine work. You lords and ladies are on top of this entire GoT production it seems. It must be extremely satisfying for you to compile and present all the latest news to the rest of us. Its exciting checking in with you everyday for my fix, thank you

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    12. Arya never plays the part of her sister in a play. In her Winds sample chapter, she is clearly playing Shae. Or at least Shae as she was presented at Tyrion’s trial.

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    13. This is all like a massive ‘Choose Your Own Adventure’ book (yes, I’m old).

      Sue the Fury:
      So Tom Wlasciha is in Girona, we know. And they’re shooting in the Arab Baths soon.

      If they don’t take this opportunity to give Jaqen a hot tub scene in this beautiful bathhouse, I’m going to assume the writers are trolling us. Somehow.

      Please, to the old gods and the new, get that man outta those robes! 🙂

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    14. aabe,

      I think that just shows there’s no reason for the show to send Mace away if they just need to send some other character to Braavos in lieu of him.

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    15. Theon and Yara – even out of costume – it’s good to see. 🙂 Tarlys will also film in Girona? Arya’s blindness lasts a few episodes, then.

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    16. Sue the Fury,

      First, thanks for all you do. Huge fan of your contributions, the website, and was a fan of the previous website you helped create, until you left:) I was watching The HBO comedy sketch, 7 Days in Hell, with Kit Harrington. At the 20th minute of the sketch, there’s a scene where they focus on a woman in the tennis stand. She shakes her head in disapproval but is staring down so you can only see a part of her face. It sure looks like Carice Van Houten to me. I know it sounds silly that HBO would do this, especially cause the comedy sketch premiered the Sunday following GOT season 5 finale. Was wondering if you heard anyone say the same thing??? Thanks again for all your work and contributions for fans of GOT show and ASOIAF.

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    17. Gravemaster,

      Yep, should be fun to watch.

      Interesting that Arya is still blind in episodes 3 or 4. I thought they’d get over it really fast. It looks like she was also banned from the HOBAW as part of her punishment. And then the Waif comes to test her agaib… I like it a lot.

      It’s possible Arya misses the first two episodes, I guess. Or maybe we see Sam meet her randomly like in the books, probably in one of the first two episodes, which could be an awesome way to reintroduce her in season 6.

      And I am, too, hoping for some Nymeria action. Especially given that Arya is going to the Riverlands this season. But I think the chances are very slim that the show will have her warg.

      And it’s great to see such a huge focus on the Greyjoy storyline next season. It means it’ll be important in both books and show. As one of the few people that found Dorne and the Greyjoys to be a highlight in an otherwise boring as fuck AFFC, I’m really happy. I just hope they don’t butcher the Greyjoys like they did Dorne (and wow, is show Dorne a mess).

      Season 6 is looking great. A lot more of AFFC/ADWD than we expected, but still great.

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    18. Arya in Mercy

      performs more as Jayne Poole than Sansa, which is cool because Jayne is performing as Arya in Winterfell… Even the conversation Arya has with her friend sounds like the one Jayne and Sansa had over Lord Beric, with Jayne swooning over him and Sansa saying that he’s sooo old (which made me lol, he was like 21?)

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    19. Sean C.,

      Yeah, most likely Mace will stay, and find more responsive audience to his artistic talents than Tycho and Meryn. Maybe the whole singing thing was a set-up to establish Mace Tyrell, ‘patron of arts’ line in Braavos.

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    20. So far, it seems that a lot of the scenes can be mapped to book counterparts? I hope we’ll soon get more reports of ‘new’ combinations of actors, such as the Greyjoy ones… Maisie with, basically, anyone, would be huge. Emilia, too.

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    21. Sue the Fury:

      If they don’t take this opportunity to give Jaqen a hot tub scene in this beautiful bathhouse, I’m going to assume the writers are trolling us. Somehow.

      (fans self) (clutches pearls) Lord, have mercy….if only this could happen, I’ll forgive Mads Mikkelsen not being cast as Euron…

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    22. I am consistently suprised how many want/expect to see Nymeria the Direwolf on the show. There is really no reason to expect it in the show. Everything related to that like Arya´s warging, Nymeria rumors and quite a lot of focus on situation in Riverlands dont exist on the show. Also the fact that Nymeria Sand was not renamed for another Sand Snakes like Sarella despite D+D wanting a black actress initially is another hint that they dont plan to reintroduce Arya´s direwolf.

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    23. GaiusB,

      Really? Changing the similar sounding names of characters who are about the same age, same gender, and in a few scenes is understandable, but you really think people will confuse a pretty girl for a direwolf? I don’t remember this being brought up even once during season 5 when Nymeria was introduced. And how does D+D initially wanting a black actress another hint that they don’t plan to reintroduce the direwolf?

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    24. Exciting news!
      I thought they would never go back and do the play since Meryn’s death, but I guess I was wrong!

      Will Arya murder someone else from her list then at the end?
      All this Greyjoy shooting news is getting me hyped for a Kingsmoot! I was not too disappointed to think that was all being skipped but now I am happy to hear they are going back to it. With Euron and Aeron cast, Asha and Theon present, it’s going to be a bit different from the book! No word on Victarion but I’m not too sad about that, honestly.. Was never a fan of his chapters.. if they do the Kingsmoot as like an Asha vs Euron thing, or will Theon stand? seems impossible given his Reekish state. Maybe he will back Asha against Euron?

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    25. Now would be the exact time to see Arya warging. In the books she also really discovered it when she got blind. They could reintroduce the riverlands through her eyes while warging Nymeria. And maybe near the end of the season have her reunited with Nymeria.

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    26. With all this inside info I respect Sue, almost as much as I respect D&D.

      It is really amazing how much information this site is able to get.

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    27. There will be no Stark warging beyond that of Bran’s. They’ve made it abundantly clear. They didn’t have Jon and Arya experience wolf dreams at any point, and didn’t make Jon warg into Ghost before he died to keep his soul/mind whole for the time being.

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    28. aabe:
      Sean C.,

      Yeah, most likely Mace will stay, and find more responsive audience to his artistic talents than Tycho and Meryn. Maybe the whole singing thing was a set-up to establish Mace Tyrell, ‘patron of arts’ line in Braavos.

      I wouldnt mind that at all ! A season of Mace Tyrell promoting artists in Braavos, improvising himself an agent / mécène ! ^^

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    29. Chilli:

      Especially since there are other subplots returning to the Riverlands. Arya could first have a ‘virtual’ meeting with some other main characters (Sansa? Brienne? Jaime?) before meeting them in person. Similar to how Bran saved Jon.

      Also, I mean, even in the books, the warging is not just there – it’s supposed to serve some plot, isn’t it?

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    30. viki,
      Its not about what i think, but what D+D think. Which is obvious from Asha-Yara, Robert-Robin. Based on that they could easily rename Nymeria Sand for Sarella, especially since show Nym was supposed to look like Sarella and her book storyline was given to Trystane, but they did not bothered with it, which for me is small hint there will not be another Nymeria. However main reason why i think it i said before, there is no set up and no reason why direwolf Nymeria should be back. Even Ghost barely exist in the show, clearly direwolfs are not priority for D+D, unlike dragons.

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    31. Redstar,

      That’s not necessarily true. Now that Bran’s powers stretch far beyond just warging (and I’m sure we’ll get a decent taste of that in season 6), making Arya and or Jon start warging won’t make him less special. And if it really is important to the story (and I think it is) and since there’s the huge payoff of the wolf pack… Why not?

      And Jon not warging before his death is deliberate. They don’t want to telegraph his fate to us. They want it to be up in the air till season 6.

      I’m not saying it will happen, but it could.

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    32. What if Arya murders the Waif? That’s a really good reason to flee to Westeros, because if she stays after murdering one of her own, she’s got serious problems.

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    33. Redstar:
      There will be no Stark warging beyond that of Bran’s. They’ve made it abundantly clear. They didn’t have Jon and Arya experience wolf dreams at any point, and didn’t make Jon warg into Ghost before he died to keep his soul/mind whole for the time being.

      :/ Has this been confirmed via an interview? If D&D have stated it, I’ll believe. If not, we need to wait and see. Got a link?

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    34. Wow. All of this is just amazing. That’s definitely a threatre stage in Braavos, depicting events in King’s Landing; you can see the sigils are slightly off in their design, and the backdrop is the Red Keep. So it may be the Red Wedding, or the book’s “Tyrion raping (probably) Sansa” performance. As for Arya being hit with a stick while blind… Yeah! She’s so warging next season.

      Sue the Fury,

      THE HOT TUB THAT WAS PROMISED.

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    35. jentario,

      Jon’s dead. They’ve beat us over the head with this. If he didn’t warg before death, he won’t warg at all. You know, you kinda have to be alive to do it. And like @GaiusB said the direwolves are neglected by the showrunners. The only magical pets they have kept the focus on have been the dragons. The direwolves have posed some obstacles for the logistical and narrative purposes. They’ve said as much. It’s been way harder towork the direwolf notion than the dragon one.

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    36. Too many Arya news these days, I can’t stand her character anymore 😛
      Seems like it will be a big season for Arya..
      But other than that, sounds interesting.
      Keep it up, love your page!

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    37. Minna,

      Wow, I thought I was the only lol

      My bets are on:
      -Theatre on KL (those banners…). Arya kills Cersei or Tommen.
      -Arya in the Riverlands. She kills Walder Frey (WF confirmed)
      -Arya Stone Heart. She kills Jaime (Jaime in the Riverlads confirmed).

      + Some warging scenes / wolf dreams

      Which one do you think? XD

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    38. SlayerNina,

      The banner designs are slightly off. Not the kind of thing you would see in King’s Landing. Also, the theatre props depict the Red Keep, which would be kind of unnecessary if it’s happening in King’s Landing. In other words, this is a theatre in Braavos depicting events in King’s Landing.

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    39. Sean C.,

      Agree Arya doesn’t return until the second half of the season-maybe even not until the finale. Having her go blind though is the perfect way for her to get in touch with her warging ability. And if she does start getting visions through Nymeria that could certainly make her decide it’s time to head back to the Riverlands..

      And yeah for the stage production they won’t be able to resist having Arya play Sansa.

      Gold cloaks protecting someone certainly sounds like everything going to hell at the Trials by the Faith. Though, the limited span of time for filming suggests to me we’re getting a LOT less KL this season, since most of the heavy action has shifted elsewhere. Probably all for the good-Cersei’s always fun, but what’s happening up North is likely to be WAY more important.

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    40. Making the 8:
      WotW staff damn fine work. You lords and ladies are on top of this entire GoT production it seems. It must be extremely satisfying for you to compile and present all the latest news to the rest of us. Its exciting checking in with you everyday for my fix, thank you

      Yes! What he said! Thanks so very much for all you do for the fans. It can’t be overstated how grateful we are to you. I see you get the occasional critism, but I’m sure the majority of us agree with the post above. Thanks so much!

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    41. Luka Nieto:
      SlayerNina,

      The banner designs are slightly off. Not the kind of thing you would see in King’s Landing. Also, the theatre props depict the Red Keep, which would be kind of unnecessary if it’s happening in King’s Landing. In other words, this is a theatre in Braavos depicting events in King’s Landing.

      I didn’t notice any difference with the older banners, but I didn’t pay enough attention either…

      Funny inception: Arya playing Sansa who in the books was playing Arya in a theatre featuring KL in real KL or with a dwarf being Tyrion with the real Tyrion watching the play…

      Ok, I’ll stop.

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    42. Why is everyone so keen on having Arya or Jon warg?! They have their own more interesting stories that I’d rathrer they pursue instead of retread Bran’s story.

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    43. Gravemaster,

      Then, the Waif has gotten lazy with the pass of time and/or overconfindent and an untrained assassin could kill her…

      That’s a good reason to leave, but also to have half of the FM looking for you… I’ll be surprised if something like that was leave without any consequence (but who knows)

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    44. Gravemaster:
      What if Arya murders the Waif? That’s a really good reason to flee to Westeros, because if she stays after murdering one of her own, she’s got serious problems.

      That’s an interesting bit of speculation. The Waif and Arya haven’t got along, that’s been established right from the start. The Waif has been harsher in her teaching methods than “Jaqen.” If Arya kills The Waif and flees Braavos, then by the end of the series, it would be a very stupid move and she would be killed by the FM, no matter where she is.

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    45. Minna: o

      I agree that Arya is not the cute little tomboy anymore but then thinking about all the horror she has seen I can understand her becoming hardened. Did not GRRM (sorry I don’t have a reference) say she was becoming like a child soldier? There must be kids in war zones – or former war zones – surviving as best they can in real life. A fictional character I think of as being something like her is Jan in Ian Serreiller’s “The Silver Sword” (set in Poland during and just after World War II) though Jan never killed anybody; he was more of a sneak thief and an opportunist.

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    46. TheTouchOfFrost,

      Because the relationship between the Starks and their direwolves is important for all the characters, and in Arya’s case the author himself has openly stated that Nymeria and her pack will return in Arya’s story. He’s been keeping them in the reader’s mind ever since Arya and her wolf parted ways, which leads to the pretty elementary deduction that it’s going to be a big deal.

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    47. I’m not particularly fond of what Arya has become too. She resort to killing with too much ease for my taste, it looks almost that she likes it. Somewhere in Westeros Ned’s bones are tossing and turning in their grave.

      As for warging, there is still time for Arya and Jon to start doing it. They just need to establish in the show that some major physical trauma is needed, like Bran breaking his back, and I think that blindness and being stabbed to death will do.
      D&D said they’re not interested, but they also said they wouldn’t do flashbacks, and they also already inserted big contradiction from season to season so what it’s been established in the previous ones doesn’t really mean it can’t be changed.

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    48. Maceless Fan: I really hope that that whole aspect doesn’t get left by the wayside.

      Ultimately, it is going to depend on whether it’s really important to the Season 6 story and the over-arching story. GRRM obviously thinks it is: but history is rife with examples of things that authors felt are important to his/her stories and that the rest of the world said: “um, no, they really are not!”

      That written, I, too, think it very plausible that they are putting in Arya’s blindness to develop the warging angle. After all, they otherwise are ahead of schedule on Arya’s story, and warging is the one thing that she really got out of blindness that she hasn’t gotten otherwise on the show. It is very possible that Nymmeria becomes important to the plot (and hopefully to Arya’s storyline) this year: and if so, then this is the year to have her start warging.

      lalla: As for warging, there is still time for Arya and Jon to start doing it.

      It is less “there is still time” and more “it was not time before,” at least for Arya and warging. They could not have her start warging and then have nothing come of it that season: that would be bad TV. Hopefully, GRRM fires this gun in a meaningful way in Winter, and it is important to whatever Arya’s contribution to the Winter story is. If so, and if it looks like this would be an effective way to communicate Arya’s story on TV, then this is the season in which to introduce it.

      As for Jon, this, too, depends on whether warging is important to his contribution to this year’s story. Now, unlike Arya and Bran, Jon is not yet warging in the books: yes, he has wolf-dreams, but he never consciously transfers himself into Ghost. Now, I know that there is the fan speculation that

      Jon wargs into Ghost at death and he’ll hang out in Ghost for a while before his body is restored; however, the books make it pretty clear that: 1) only experienced wargs can do that; and, 2) even experienced wargs rapidly fade into the animal.

      In other words, the book basically tells us that this is not an option. (Varamyr was a setup for Bran, not Jon!) If the show was going to take that route, then it should have set it up last year: but they didn’t, so they almost certainly will not.

      (Personally, I will be a little surprised if Jon ever starts warging: he’s been very resistant to it all along for whatever reasons. That could change, but until I see signs that he is “softening” on that front, I won’t expect the change!)

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    49. TheTouchOfFrost: Why is everyone so keen on having Arya or Jon warg?! They have their own more interesting stories that I’d rathrer they pursue instead of retread Bran’s story.

      I don’t know if it will ever be important to Jon’s part story (at this point, I tend to doubt it), but it probably will be important to Arya’s part of the story. At any rate, we should hope so in the books at least: if GRRM does not provide a satisfactory “firing” of this, then it will be very bad writing on his part!

      Winnie: Agree Arya doesn’t return until the second half of the season-maybe even not until the finale.

      That would be much too long! Arya is blind for one chapter in the books. They do not need anywhere near that much time to set up warging if they are going to do that. Moreover, as Bran will be doing something similar, they will have a nice “counterpoint” to play against.

      The one caveat I would put on this is if it is possible to do a big chunk of Arya’s Winter material with her blind, then they could have her stay blind a bit longer than that. However, as we have no idea what that is (beyond probably involving a theater troupe!), it is beyond speculation and more just flat out guessing.

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    50. Ravyn,

      Seems like to most natural and logical course of action for sure. Nymeria could essentially be ‘calling’ Arya back to Westeros.

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    51. Redstar,

      A few weeks ago, WotW linked us to an interview with one of the special effects crew who said that Season 6 would contain the most difficult and challenging vfx scene(s) yet. My bet is that it’s Nymeria and her pack. It’s already been noted that the Waif [and probably Jaqen] will be beating Arya with a stick this season. This will lead to cat-warg and then to her warging into Nymeria.

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    52. GaiusB,

      I don’t necessarily think Arya warging has to be an ongoing thing. Because of her blindness they might just introduce it enough as something that will be used to ‘call’ her back to Westeros. They didn’t kill the wolf off so she obviously still has some part to play. As for the name of Nymeria being used more than once; that has been done several times in the show and books. The fact that it is such an important name in history means anyone/anything could be named it as a tribute to it’s origin.

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    53. Redstar,

      I don’t believe Jon is dead, but like you, I don’t think he is going to warg into Ghost either. His miraculous return/rebirth or what have you, and the White Walkers approach, and The Wall coming down, etc is more than enough for him right now. What part will ghost play then? I have no idea. Maybe he will pass, which will leave 3/6.
      I hope not though. Dog deaths make me cry….

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    54. lalla,

      I’m really wondering about Arya as well. It was pointed out to me about the lack of reaction to having to maneuver around corpses, many of people she had known when she was trying to escape KL in the first season. And then with her first kill of the boy in the stable. She was never afraid to warn others that she would kill them no problem if they ticked her off enough. It’s like she has been de-sensitized from the start. I think this must be a really important aspect of her personality in regards to the big picture, but it freaks me out to think of what she is ultimately becoming. The way she killed Meryn Trant was the most brutal thing I’ve seen in a long time! Kind of like the ways The Mountain like to kill.

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    55. Dame of Mercia,

      I know, and I don’t blame her considered the world they live in – I just don’t like her character, she doesn’t appeal to me at all. Just a personal oppinion. I loved watching her in season 1 though.

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    56. Wimsey,

      Arya is not yet consciously warging either, it just happens to her when she sleeps or when she’s under heavy stress, without her having any control on the process. I don’t think she even understands yet what is happening and she still believes the wolf thing is a dream and didn’t realise it’s Nymeria.

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    57. SciFiFantasyGirl:
      Redstar,

      I don’t believe Jon is dead, but like you, I don’t think he is going to warg into Ghost either.

      How can you survive that? He was stabbed like seven times and one time near his heart (or straight to it) . No, Jon is dead and everyone made that very clear. Varamyr was supposed to be in season 5, but they change it to Karsi. Good choice, but they cut off hints to his warging abilities. One small scene with Varamyr would have been enough. Whether at Hardhome or Castle Black. Arya will warg, but Jon don’t.

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    58. lalla: Arya is not yet consciously warging either, it just happens to her when she sleeps or when she’s under heavy stress, without her having any control on the process.

      In the books, she is starting to do so: she learns how to jump into an adjacent cat at least.

      Geralt of Rivia: One small scene with Varamyr would have been enough.

      That would not have been remotely close to adequate. They would have needed to show Jon doing what Bran was doing: i.e., consciously becoming Ghost for some period of time. But that never happened in either books or TV. This is why I really doubt Jon will be warging: we are at a point where it might have been used as a plot device for Jon, but neither GRRM nor B&W developed it. Moreover

      the Varamyr chapter in Dragons basically tells us why the JonGhost conjecture could not work anyway: even if Jon were a practiced Warg, then he soon would have dissipated into Ghost, anyway.

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    59. lalla:
      Wimsey,

      Arya is not yet consciously warging either, it just happens to her when she sleeps or when she’s under heavy stress, without her having any control on the process. I don’t think she even understands yet what is happening and she still believes the wolf thing is a dream and didn’t realise it’s Nymeria.

      Agree – and I feel the producers TOTALLY missed the boat on showing this in S4/S5… Arya had scenes of waking when wandering with the hound/ in the HoBaW, they could’ve easily shown a few seconds of wolf dream to integrate her warging into the storyline much more seamlessly.

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    60. Wimsey: the Varamyr chapter in Dragons basically tells us why the JonGhost conjecture could not work anyway: even if Jon were a practiced Warg, then he soon would have dissipated into Ghost, anyway.

      I would have to disagree with this one, Wimsey. Jon is special. Him doing something relatively effortlessly that someone else who trained for years failed at would not an unusual element of the story. In fact, this is a pretty common trope in fiction. I am not saying GRRM will do this, but it certainly cannot be eliminated as a possibility.

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    61. Geralt of Rivia,

      He didn’t survive the stabbings. But I’m a believer in the theory that Melisandre will raise him up during his cremation and he will be ‘reborn’ so to speak, most likely being the Azor Ahai. So I believe he isn’t ‘dead’ dead, as in his character will go on in the series. There is a ton of unfinished business at The Wall and with The Walkers that I feel his character has been slowly inching towards settling once and for all. As I said though, this is just my opinion.

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    62. Cersei’s Wine Goblet,

      The ouse with the red Hodor? I need some tea, I think.

      Is this going to be a flashback with Theon back on Pike? If not, and it’s a family reunion, who can explain the jump……? I get it! As Theon and Sansa looked down from Winterfell’s battlements, right before they jumped, they saw a wormhole opening! But…..
      How come Sansa isn’t around on Pike? Not unless…..
      Does Yara (show’s Asha) rescue Theon? If so, the question remains…. Where’s Sansa?

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    63. Warg…warging..to warg into….has this been discussed to death by now? Please…pretty please with sugar on top?
      On a lighter note, I am soo excited by all these news we are getting.

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    64. Wimsey: Jon wargs into Ghost at death and he’ll hang out in Ghost for a while before his body is restored; however, the books make it pretty clear that: 1) only experienced wargs can do that; and, 2) even experienced wargs rapidly fade into the animal.
      In other words, the book basically tells us that this is not an option. (Varamyr was a setup for Bran, not Jon!)

      I don’t agree that it was a setup for Bran only. IIRC, in his PoV chapter Varamyr pegs Jon immediately upon meeting him as a powerful potential warg, perhaps even exceeding his own skills, and is a little envious/threatened. He can’t figure out why Jon isn’t aware of his powers himself yet. I think that in the books at least, where the cost of special effects is not an issue, Jon will warg into Ghost – perhaps not intentionally at first.

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    65. Firannion,

      ASOIAF Wiki:
      An untrained skinchanger may unconsciously enter the mind of an animal, especially while sleeping, particularly if a bond exists.

      If this is so, then Jon of the books just very well may. The question is, is ‘death’ like sleeping? Or are we just talking about moments before death?

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    66. For the record I’m pro Arya warging. Could be very useful story tool for her return to Westeros. I agree with others, unless it is critical to the plot it seems unlikely that Jon will warg on the show if he didn’t for his ‘death’

      As for Arya killing Jaime in the Riverlands, I’m not in favor of this. Jaime and Cersei were born together and they should die together (ideally a Jaime killing Cersei murder suicide, sacrificing himself Kingslayer style for the good of others). As much as it makes more sense to me that Arya (rather than Sansa) would be a Stoneheart-esque revenge machine in the Riverlands, I still don’t think either will kill Jaime. I hope he has a part to play in the endgame.

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    67. Sean C.,

      In the books it may be. The Dire Wolves have been severly limted in the show. Other than Summer they’ve pretty much been irrelevant. If it is then so be it, but I for one would find it boring to go through another one or two warging stories.

      Wimsey,

      I’m happy for it to be one of those things that is left to the imagination. I think the wolf dreams and mild warging we’ve seen from the other Starks are just a device so we remember they’re still connected and that they all have the potential but only Bran has developed it. It should only be a significant factor in Bran’s story. OThers doing it would cheapen his journey and also be silly seeing as he can barely control it and he had guidance and yet Arya/Jon are suddenly going to be able to do it naturally? Silly.

      The Jon warging into Ghost theory is really daft. He’s never done it before. His body would be dead so he’d just get lost in Ghost’s mind and they’ve set Melisandre up there plus introduced resuurection through red priests. Him warging into Ghost to survive isn’t going to happen guys and it would be terrible story-telling if it did!

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    68. I agree with “Jaime’s Girl”.
      A Cersei/Jaime murder-suicide would be the ideal death of these two, imo amazing, characters. They have to die together (hopefully not this season), considered how they have always said how they came into this world together, belonged together. Would be epic.

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    69. Minna,

      I think Jaime will defintely kill Cersei. Hope he makes it out of the story alive but I think the chances are bleak. Possibly join the Night’s Watch as a way to finally regain his honour…if the Nights Watch even exist by the end of it all!

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    70. I think that hot tub scene would be very interesting…

      Sue the Fury:
      So Tom Wlasciha is in Girona, we know. And they’re shooting in the Arab Baths soon.

      If they don’t take this opportunity to give Jaqen a hot tub scene in this beautiful bathhouse, I’m going to assume the writers are trolling us. Somehow.

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