Kit Harington joins Season 8 cast in Seville & King’s Landing gets explosive—again!

Jon Snow visited King's Landing and the Dragonpit for the first and last time in "The Dragon and the Wolf"

Jon Snow visited King’s Landing for the first and last time in “The Dragon and the Wolf”

Soon after Game of Thrones finally landed in Seville to shoot Dragonpit scenes in Itálica, more than a dozen cast members showed up. As more of them appeared, the ones who did not, the ones who were absent, made themselves more and more conspicuous—and few absentees were felt more than Kit Harington … until today, when he showed up!

Minutes ago, Lady Stark on Twitter was there for Kit Harington’s arrival in Seville:


If you’re not keeping tabs, you may need a reminder of who has been sighted in Seville. Without any confirmation of the contrary, the following will assume that every cast member in the city is there for the shoot and not for a documentary, a wrap party, or just to confuse us (even though these popular theories are all possible.) That said, the Dragonpit scenes would include Jon Snow, Bran Stark, Sansa Stark, Arya Stark, Davos Seaworth, Brienne of Tarth, Sam Tarly, Gendry, Robin Arryn, Varys, Jorah Mormont, Yara Greyjoy, Grey Worm (these last two were sighted only recently), Tyrion Lannister, Jaime Lannister, Cersei Lannister, the Night King, and (the faces of) Jaqen H’ghar and the Waif.

That’s quite a party! Nevertheless, there’s an obvious absence here: Daenerys Targaryen! Emilia Clarke is still promoting her new Star Wars film, so maybe the character is supposed to be there and will be added into these scenes via film magic. Or maybe not.

Other notable absences are perhaps even more intriguing, especially given that many of their companions are there: Dany’s retinue is all accounted for… except for Missandei; and, though Cersei is present, her brains and brawn —Qyburn and the Mountain— are not. Euron is also curiously missing. The same can be said of the likes of Theon Greyjoy, Tormund, Bronn, Podrick, and many others. If our best guess is correct and the finale is being filmed in Itálica, we must accept at least some of these characters may be dead.

King's Landing Great Sept 6x10 (4)

In more cheerful news, let’s discuss the ravaging of the highly populated capital of the Seven Kingdoms. A few days ago we reported on the King’s Landing set being modified so as to appear breached. Back then, we could only blindly speculate on what is it that will bring down the city walls but … it’s dragons, isn’t it? Yes, it’s probably dragons.

Los Siete Reinos revealed that the local Belfast businesses near the Titanic Quarter where the King’s Landing set stands received a warning last week: on the early hours of Friday the 11th, controlled explosions would be employed on set. Next day, the city walls were being reconstructed as if to appear damaged, which is probably not a coincidence.

Also, A Red Priestess came through again and showed apparent fire damage has been added to the ruined towers, illuminating us further on the cause of their destruction:


She also directed us, via Reddit, to a giant fire next to the walls, facing the green screen. The following is our stabilized, zoomed-in and widescreened version of the video:

So, yes. It’s probably dragons. Healthy and alive dragons like Drogon and Rhaegal, or creepy undead dragons like Viserion? That we don’t know, and we probably won’t until we watch the show next year. Still, until then, speculation is half the fun, isn’t it?

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    1. The absences (including the biggest one) are notable. There’s not many conclusions to explain those absences either, other than perhaps the most obvious. It will be interesting to see if any of the missing join the rest in the days to come.

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    2. “If our best guess is correct and the finale is being filmed in Itálica, we must accept at least some of these characters may be dead.”
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      No! No! 😩 The Hound cannot be dead! Unless he’s already pulled the flaming sword from the fire and saved Arya, Sansa, and the rest of humanity.

      #TheLastHero

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    3. In more cheerful news, let’s discuss the ravaging of the highly populated capital of the Seven Kingdoms.

      That line made me chuckle.

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    4. If Theon dies his throne, it will not make sense. I hope it is not true. And it is not known if Gemma is really in Seville, in the end she eliminated those photos.

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    5. If Dany doesn’t show up there at all, it’s still possible that she filmed indoor scenes on Drogon instead or she’s elsewhere with other characters, so I’m not convinced that she’s dead simply due to her not appearing in the Dragonpit.

      Though, it does make me a little bit nervous for her. We’ll see what happens in the next week or so.

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    6. Mr Derp,

      I felt a bit playful today 😛

      Susan: And it is not known if Gemma is really in Seville, in the end she eliminated those photos.

      The fact that she deleted the photo doesn’t make it not exist anymore, somehow. The photo was still real, and in it Whelan certainly appeared to be in Seville. So I really don’t get your argument here. Could you explain, please?

      Mr Derp: If Dany doesn’t show up there at all, it’s still possible that she filmed indoor scenes on Drogon instead or she’s elsewhere with other characters, so I’m not convinced that she’s dead simply due to her not appearing in the Dragonpit.

      Totally agreed. Dany being shot separately in Belfast because she’s on Drogon is a possibility I didn’t mention in this article, though I did in a previous one in which I noted her absence. There are many possible reasons.

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    7. The anticipation is killing me. I keep checking for updates. 😩
      Hi everyone **waves nervously **

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    8. Luka Nieto:

      Totally agreed. Dany being shot separately in Belfast because she’s on Drogon is a possibility I didn’t mention in this article, though I did in a previous one in which I noted her absence. There are many possible reasons.

      Yeah, in the other article I mentioned that I’m more surprised by the absence of Gilly and Missandei. It’s difficult to imagine a scenario where they’re not with Greyworm and Samwell. I suppose death is a possibility, but for me, it’s difficult to see them dying.

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    9. Longtime Lurker,

      Welcome Longtime Lurker, now first time poster. Don’t worry, I’m pretty sure the anticipation is slowly killing a lot of us. Thankfully, WOTW is here to keep us up-to-date during the long night as much as possible.

      IMO we should be glad that we don’t know what’ll happen yet. It’ll make the viewing experience so much better when the last season airs.

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    10. Thank you for that realistic and clarifying report, Luka. This is the most confusing situation in GoT filming I can recall. As magicians say, ” Now you see them, now you don’t!” Kit arriving today certainly seems to confirm actual filming. And Emilia’s press obligations explain her absence.

      The Con of Thrones is fast approaching. I’ve cleared most of my schedule next week so I can help you all get oriented etc. I can probably also collect anyone arriving at the intown airport. Email me if you need local support.

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    11. To be honest, I put zero faith in the absent cast members = dead. There is simply too much going on and too many variables possible, that I’m not worried. Give me time. 😜

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    12. Jay Targ,

      Gilly and Missandei could also be somewhere inside. During the battle of Blackwater women like Cersei, Sansa, Shae were all inside. And inside scenes are filmed in Northern Ireland, not in Spain. Maybe Gilly and Missandei are with pregnant Dany. This is just speculation, not spoilers.

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    13. So if this is a post-war meeting, I’m thinking the new rulers of the Seven Kingdoms will be:

      King – Jon (so nervous for Dany right now)

      Westerlands – Tyrion

      North – Sansa

      Stormlands – Gendry

      Iron Islands – Yara (does Theon sacrifice himself so save her from Euron maybe?)

      Reach – Sam

      Vale – Robin

      Riverlands – Idk, maybe Edmure off screen?

      Dorne – Who cares anymore?

      Also off topic but is Bronn in season 8? I haven’t seen any confirmation yet which seems odd this far into filming, but he must be in it right?

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    14. Chilli,

      Yeah, the possibilities are endless. It’s difficult to really make anything of this shoot. Some are definitely filming but I cannot tell about others. I don’t think we’ll get much clarity until the actual season airs lol

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    15. SimoneS:
      Jay Targ,

      Agree about Gilly and Missandei. I just can’t see them both dying.

      Yes, I try to envision scenarios where it happens, but it’s like my brain blocks them out lol. Especially since neither are fighters (in a physical sense), and I have no doubts that Greyworm and Samwell would do everything to keep them safe. But I guess we’ll have to wait and see.

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    16. Chilli:
      Jay Targ,

      Gilly and Missandei could also be somewhere inside. During the battle of Blackwater women like Cersei, Sansa, Shae were all inside. And inside scenes are filmed in Northern Ireland, not in Spain. Maybe Gilly and Missandei are with pregnant Dany. This is just speculation, not spoilers.

      I think with Danny, or taking care of as many refugees as they can. If Sansa and Arya are at the pit, I’m sure Sansa or Jon or Danny would have them do that; thus keeping them out of danger.

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    17. Without any confirmation of the contrary, the following will assume that every cast member in the city is there for the shoot…

      I’m actually going to go with the opposite and assume that NOT every one of them is or has been involved in filming… yet, or possibly won’t be at all, without any confirmation to the contrary. Nikolaj for example came, went to the game and left within a pretty short window, and it was mostly during a time when others were out ‘goofing around’ as well. There is time yet for people to return and others to show up for the first time though. We’ve written out plenty of ideas in the last handful of days that I wouldn’t be surprised if elements of several aren’t partly true…

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    18. Melisandre is not there but Varys is…Mel predicted they would both die “in this strange land”…interesting to speculate about that!

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    19. Grail King,

      That sort of thing could all be part of it. IF Winterfell was destroyed and IF they all fled to King’s Landing there’s really only two places the “end filming” would be; inside KL (including the Dragonpit) and outside KL/surrounding grounds. They have those just about covered between Italica and Titanic set.

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    20. I think they’re filming a documentary alongside scenes for the series and they’re using locations in Seville. That would explain the appearance of cast members we know to be either dead or no longer in the show.

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    21. Clob,

      Me too. Lena couldn’t have filmed any scenes during the short period she was in Seville, so was more than likely just chilling with her mates for the weekend.

      She’s now in Belfast shooting (presumably) with Thor who’s also there.

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    22. Just had another thought for the purpose of the Dragonpit… perhaps it serves as a sort of refugee camp for the remaining surviving Northern forces who fled the AOTD.

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    23. Jerome Flynn and Lena Headey still won’t be on the same set together, right? They made that really obvious in the previous Dragonpit scene highlighting Bronn’s exit.

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    24. Clob,

      Well I wouldn’t expect to see banners hanging when they’ve blown the shit out of the city walls. They’ll be underneath the rubble (or vaporised) 😝

      That video (though dreadful quality) has been filmed from a perfect vantage point.. We need to get Oakleaf or Davy Orr up there.

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    25. One wonders what purpose Podrick will serve? If he’s not around at this point, does that mean that he might be an early (heartbreaking) casualty? Although Brienne said that he’s become a competent fighter, he’s certainly not going to be one of the elite fighters during the war. They’ve made such a great duo together as well that it will be very sad to see the poor chap go if he does.. 🙁

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    26. Well the Big Homie is finally on campus! It’ll be interesting to see if he passes through or if he stays and films for awhile.

      Honestly, I think with regards to actual filming in Seville, the persons who have been seen being shuttled back and forth between the hotel and set for long periods of time are the ones filming. That would include; Liam, Sophie, Maisie, Gwen, Peter, Isaac, Joe and John Bradley.

      It seems like Nik, Lena and Conleth probably passed through for a few days to hang out. But it also looks like Lena is back in Belfast, so she’s probably doing the majority of her coverage there.

      KL seems to be going THROUGH it though. Reports of explosions, fires and now a completely broken down gate?

      Maybe the fighting up North isn’t as much of a bloodbath (in terms of character deaths) as we’re expecting and the real body count racks up down south :O

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    27. “Back then, we could only blindly speculate on what is it that will bring down the city walls but … it’s dragons, isn’t it? Yes, it’s probably dragons.”

      Explosions on the gates of King’s Landing do not by themselves require dragon fire (or wight dragon ice, no matter how awesomely cool those Blue Curacao emissions look). Back before The Battle of The Blackwater, the future Ser Bronn explained perfectly well how mishandling of wildfire during an attack could cause the defenders employing it to cause fire — or explosion — within the city walls. Defenders who have never seen any flying creature larger than a raven might well just flat-out panic at the very sight of a giant flying worm, even before it starts spewing fire (or ice) at them.

      (We have a real analog in the Luftwaffe’s “Stuka” dive-bombers of WWII. They had sirens mounted on their wings for no other purpose than to terrify defenders on the ground as the airplane dove for the kill. Soldiers who had never before been subject to such an attack broke and ran in huge numbers.)

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    28. Apollo,
      Sort of waiting for new ones to be hung to tell us something, when they get to that point. It may be unfortunate that these from that angle are out there since they may add more shipping containers or simply not hang any post-war banners.

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    29. Apollo:
      Just had another thought for the purpose of the Dragonpit… perhaps it serves as a sort of refugee camp for the remaining surviving Northern forces who fled the AOTD.

      Maybe it’s a petting zoo for WW tykes to see the silly humans.

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    30. Ten Bears: Maybe it’s a petting zoo for WW tykes to see the silly humans.

      LOL ⎮⎮⎮👨‍👩‍👧‍👦👨‍👩‍👦‍👦👨‍👩‍👧‍👧⎮⎮⎮

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    31. If there’s filming at the dragon pit, they’re definitely setting a stage for dragons. And when you have dragons, you’ve got to have a rider… which is the Dragon Queen. Sure, there’s a secret Targaryen, but so far, he hasn’t ridden a dragon.

      We’ve only ever seen fully grown dragons on top of large buildings or in colosseum type buildings. If dragons are present in the capital, they’ll probably be at the dragon pit. Why would humans choose the dragon pit as a venue when it’s a ruin unless they’re accommodating dragons? There are unknowns, to be sure. I guess they could digitally refurbish it, but still, why would anyone go there, but for dragons?

      As for Dany, I’m pretty sure she’s pregnant and her baby will survive. That means she’ll need 10 months to deliver, because a preemie infant won’t have much chance of surviving in Westeros. Will the war last more than 10 months? It will last a year, maybe. Maybe 18 months. I don’t think it’ll be any longer than 2 years. I suppose Dany could die in childbirth. That would definitely qualify as bittersweet.

      The dragon pit is like a homecoming venue for dragons…to celebrate their return to KL. It’s great odds that Dany and the dragons will be there.

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    32. I feel as if they’ve played out the wildfire tricks. There was the blackwater explosions which were topped by the Sept explosion. Are they going to regress with a puny city wall explosion? I think they’ve got to go big, or go home and they’ve go real live dragons that breathe fire. Of course, if dragonfire hits wildfire….that would qualify as big.

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    33. Anon,

      Certainly the possibility exists Dany is airborne, therefore Emilia VFX filming at a later date. However, is she not going to land at some point to interact with the rest of the characters at the dragonpit? One would assume she would, as I find it difficult to imagine D&D will write a scene where all these characters congregate in an exterior setting and it doesn’t feature Daenerys because she remains airborne the entire time.

      I have no idea why she isn’t there but it does make her absence at this point, at the very least, curious.

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    34. It’s also possible that Dany isn’t there because she’s very pregnant or possibly in labor somewhere safe (Dragonstone?). Could also explain why any or all of Missandei, Gilly, Jorah or Grey Worm aren’t there as they could be wherever she is.

      I also have a hard time believing the Night King is there to parlay in the Dragonpit. If he’s in King’s Landing, he’s there to whip some ass.

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    35. orange:
      Anon,

      Certainly the possibility exists Dany is airborne, therefore Emilia VFX filming at a later date. However, is she not going to land at some point to interact with the rest of the characters at the dragonpit? One would assume she would, as I find it difficult to imagine D&D will write a scene where all these characters congregate in an exterior setting and it doesn’t feature Daenerys because she remains airborne the entire time.

      I have no idea why she isn’t there but it does make her absence at this point, at the very least, curious.

      Yes, Dany’s absence is curious. However, we don’t even know the sort of interactions that are going on in the Dragonpit. Thus far, it doesn’t seem as if they’re filming this sequence in the same manner that they filmed it for S7. Kit’s absence last week suggests that he wasn’t a part of that scene. And same for the other characters who have come and gone. That alone (the actors arriving and leaving Seville at random time) makes it difficult to speculate.

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    36. orange,

      Its a headscratcher, for sure. A scene at the dragon pit could also be a flash forward…like several years into the future, long after the war has ended, I suppose. But It’d still involve dragons, I think.

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    37. Undead Elephant,

      Cersei is there. Heck, the Night King is there too, for some reason or another.

      Though it is probably in the finale, people are really jumping the gun with the whole “post-war” theory when we don’t know who’s actually shooting specifically in the Dragonpit and who isn’t, or even when this takes place in the finale (assuming it is in fact in the finale). There might be some genuine misdirection going on, but if there is it’s not as though any of us can say with absolute certainty which characters in this very large group are genuinely supposed to be there and which ones aren’t.

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    38. Emilia is on Graham Norton this week and I think they record Wed/Thur not sure, so she may appear later this week. OT my GoT tickets due today for London on 27th, I am so excited. 😄

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    39. orange,

      My boy is still alive, happy day 🙂 I just can’t see the story having Daenerys killed off. But what do I know of George Martin and his stories? Only what I have heard on here. And one of those things was something about “breaking tropes” so…

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    40. Carry:
      Where’s Rory Mccann?!?!? 😭

      Couldn’t help quoting your post… where-is-he??!
      Onestly, some of the absences seem almost logic and as sad as it may be I don’t really mind if Missandei or Gilly or Beric are not involved in those last shooting, but the fact that the Hound has never been spotted yet (as far as I recall) since they started shooting Season 8 sounds a bit worring.
      We can assume he shot some scenes in Northern Ireland but I was expenting him to have some crucial moments in KL’s set too..

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    41. Maybe some of the cast members being there are red herrings so we will not know who really is filming. I think someone had mentioned this possibility before.

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    42. Azor Asshai:
      Undead Elephant,

      Cersei is there. Heck, the Night King is there too, for some reason or another.

      Though it is probably in the finale, people are really jumping the gun with the whole “post-war” theory when we don’t know who’s actually shooting specifically in the Dragonpit and who isn’t, or even when this takes place in the finale (assuming it is in fact in the finale). There might be some genuine misdirection going on, but if there is it’s not as though any of us can say with absolute certainty which characters in this very large group are genuinely supposed to be there and which ones aren’t.

      It’s the presence of Robin Arryn that makes me think that this theory is likely though. I can’t think of another reason why he’d be present.

      And both Lena and Vladmir have already left, they only stayed for one or two days. So they were either red herrings or shot different scenes that happen earlier.

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    43. orange,

      Why would she be flying around in circles over the dragonpit while the others have a meeting or whatever’s happening there? Also since it’s for episode 6 and Drogon is unlikely to survive past episode 5, Emilia being absent from Seville filming cause she’s on a dragon doesn’t make a strong case.

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    44. joojenbro,

      I guess she could just be watching adragon or giving a speech from dragonback?

      Who knows, I think all arguments are valid at this point.

      Re: Hound, he’s not there yet because he’s busy getting his armour on for a certain trial by combat in the Dragonpit? 😀 #bowl

      Also, have there been sightings of our mountainous friend Hafþór Júlíus Björnsson? I haven’t had time to read the 700 or so comments on the Seville shoot so I may have missed mention of him, thanks!

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    45. There’s no way Emilia shows up. Not with the Solo press blitz. If she was meant to be there, they wouldn’t schedule this during Solo’s release. This doesn’t mean Dany’s dead, though I certainy hope she kicks it. That entitled hypocrite is the worst.

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    46. ABlueEyedGiantNamedMacumber:
      joojenbro,

      I guess she could just be watching adragon or giving a speech from dragonback?

      Who knows, I think all arguments are valid at this point.

      Re: Hound, he’s not there yet because he’s busy getting his armour on for a certain trial by combat in the Dragonpit? #bowl

      Also, have there been sightings of our mountainous friend Hafþór Júlíus Björnsson? I haven’t had time to read the 700 or so comments on the Seville shoot so I may have missed mention of him, thanks!

      The Mountain is currently in Belfast according to the last comment that I saw regarding him.

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    47. Mr Derp:
      If Dany doesn’t show up there at all, it’s still possible that she filmed indoor scenes on Drogon instead or she’s elsewhere with other characters, so I’m not convinced that she’s dead simply due to her not appearing in the Dragonpit.

      Though, it does make me a little bit nervous for her.We’ll see what happens in the next week or so.

      I think she’s taking over KL at that moment. (dragon scene).

      Ravyn:
      Jerome Flynn and Lena Headey still won’t be on the same set together, right? They made that really obvious in the previous Dragonpit scene highlighting Bronn’s exit.

      I always find it very childish of them both. It’s your work, you get paid, be professional. They get more for one episode than most people get in a year. And it’s been years since they were together.

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    48. kevin1989,

      The Dragonpit is located inside King´s Landing. Not the best idea to be there while a fire breathing dinosaur is torching everything. Character like Sansa, Bran, Tyrion and Varys only would be at the Dragonpit if there is no fighting or the fight ended.

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    49. Carry,

      I mean, they can’t conclude a TV show based on A Song of Arya and Sandor without The Hound and Arya Super Ninja Assassin Warrior Princess™, right?

      ™ Talvikorppi 2018

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    50. Ëonwë:
      kevin1989,

      The Dragonpit is located inside King´s Landing. Not the best idea to be there while a fire breathing dinosaur is torching everything. Character like Sansa, Bran, Tyrion and Varys only would be at the Dragonpit if there is no fighting or the fight ended.

      My bad, I always thought it was just outside KL.

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    51. ABlueEyedGiantNamedMacumber,

      Seriously, Beric’s words to Sandor in S6e8 will be prophetic: “You can still help a lot more than you’ve harmed, Clegane. It’s not too late for you.”

      Sadly but appropriately, I expect the Hound to go out in a blaze of glory, probably overcoming his fear of fire and sacrificing himself so his surrogate daughters Arya and Sansa may live.

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    52. I’m still trying to imagine an ending where all our “heroes” live and I know that won’t be true. Bit concerned about Dany, but it could be handled on a green screen I guess, but does it really seem logical? Highly doubt she’s still in WF with everyone else in Seville. We all know that scenes are not necessarily filmed in order so the fire at Titanic could be dragons before and the cast in Seville the aftermath.

      George said bittersweet and with that many cast members still alive I’m happily surprised, IF this is the case…..the long wait is killing me.

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    53. kevin1989,

      King´s Landing was built around three hills. The biggest one was named Aegon´s Hill and that is where the Red Keep was built. The second one is Rhaeny´s Hill were the Sept of Commemoration was built. But when the faith militant rose against Maegor I (son of Aegon and Visenya) he took Balerion and razed the sept to the ground along hundreds of members of the faith militant. Maegor then ordered to build in the place of the former sept giant stables who could house Balerion and the rest of the Targs dragons. The third hill is Visenya´s Hill. That is the place were the Great Sept of Baelor once stood, until Cersei followed Maegor´s steps .

      So a meeting inside the Dragonpit takes place inside King´s Landing walls. I wonder what the state of the rest of the city will be.

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    54. Jay Targ,

      It could be possible that Missandei and Gilly are with Daenerys elsewhere in birth? Gilly would have to know a thing or two about childbirth given her and the other wives of Craster helped one another in birth. Just a thought…

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    55. Ëonwë:
      kevin1989,

      King´s Landing was built around three hills. The biggest one was named Aegon´s Hill and that is where the Red Keep was built. The second one is Rhaeny´s Hill were the Sept of Commemoration was built. But when the faith militant rose against Maegor I (son of Aegon and Visenya) he took Balerion and razed the sept to the ground along hundreds of members of the faith militant. Maegor then ordered to build in the place of the former sept giant stables who could house Balerion and the rest of the Targs dragons. The third hill is Visenya´s Hill. That is the place were the Great Sept of Baelor once stood, until Cersei followed Maegor´s steps .

      So a meeting inside the Dragonpit takes place inside King´s Landing walls. I wonder what the state of the rest of the city will be.

      Do we actually know this to be the case though? I don’t think the show has been very clear about the location of the Dragonpit. If like in the books, it’s within city walls, then I can’t help but worry about the caches of wildfire underneath the city still being there, waiting to ignite.

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    56. Katie:
      Jay Targ,

      It could be possible that Missandei and Gilly are with Daenerys elsewhere in birth? Gilly would have to know a thing or two about childbirth given her and the other wives of Craster helped one another in birth. Just a thought…

      Well it definitely a plausible thought. It would be very strange for all three to kick the bucket, especially Gilly and Missandei, but I guess we have to wait and see.

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    57. All of the theories of characters being dead based on them not being in Seville is both possible and plausible (as is most of the posts above) but it is also based on one variable, and huge assumption – that the episodes are shot and filmed in order beginning to end, scene to scene. A production this grand very well may not be filmed that way. It is genius that it allows everyone to speculate and guess and probably miss on the actual happenings and avoid spoilers.

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    58. Ëonwë:
      kevin1989,

      The Dragonpit is located inside King´s Landing. Not the best idea to be there while a fire breathing dinosaur is torching everything. Character like Sansa, Bran, Tyrion and Varys only would be at the Dragonpit if there is no fighting or the fight ended.

      I agree with that… unless everything else has already been toasted. The NK with Viserion could do some pretty quick destruction around Westeros without anyone knowing where he is, especially on unsuspecting and unprepared southern locations. Ravens and word-of-mouth aren’t quick enough to warn anyone or call for help. Still, what would it take for them to send non-fighters on a ship to relative safety rather than huddle them in an area of imminent danger?

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    59. Ëonwë,

      The geography in the show is different in many ways. It’s ambiguous whether the Dragonpit is within the walls or not, but it’s certainly much further from the Red Keep and the Great Sept than in the books (this is the view of the city from the Dragonpit, in the show.) There are other major differences: the south side of the city faces the Blackwater rush in the books, while in the show it faces the open bay; in fact, there is no visible river throughout the southern wall, so in the show it may open north of the city, not south. It’s unclear.

      There are many inconsistencies, which doesn’t help. I hope that, since this will be the final season and something big is happening in King’s Landing, we’ll get a complete 3D modeled aerial view, instead of the bits and pieces we usually get. A definitive version of the show-KL’s geography would be great.

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    60. Elizabeth,

      Dany, Missandei and Gilly could be inside in The Red Keep, which is filmed in Northern Ireland. Everyone could have been inside and then go outside afterwards on their way to their ships passing by the dragonpit because they like the view or want to discuss something or…. The Hound and maybe Bronn could be her queensguard and stay inside with her, while Greyworm leads them outside. We just don’t know.

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    61. People keep mentioning Missandei.
      I am sure that Nathalie Emmanuel posted somewhere ages ago that she had finished her filming.

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    62. Colin Armfield:
      People keep mentioning Missandei.
      I am sure that NathalieEmmanuel posted somewhere ages ago that she had finished her filming.

      The last article I remember reading with her quotes was April 23rd when she said she wasn’t currently filming but that she isn’t done yet.

      https://www.express.co.uk/celebrity-news/947907/Game-of-Thrones-season-8-cast-Nathalie-Emmanuel-Missandei-spoilers-latest

      When asked whether she is shooting scenes at the moment, she said: “Yeah, but I have had some periods out of work because of schedules and they’re shooting stuff I’m not in.”

      “But I’ve done quite a bit already and it’s been going really well. It’s really exciting!”

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    63. Ëonwë:
      A map of King´s Landing that appears in the second book A Clash of Kings.

      https://awoiaf.westeros.org/images/thumb/b/bb/Kings_landing_ACOK_map.gif/800px-Kings_landing_ACOK_map.gif

      I see where my mistake was. The inner walls around the red keep. (1×05 Arya was in front of it, if I remember correctly)

      Theons Richard,

      I think season 8 will be at least 80% filmed chronicle, because we only get 1 filming unit instead of the 2 or 3 in the past, only 3 directors with one of them filming half of the season. Planning is much easier now. And of course scenes that need to be filmed in winter are already shot. Everything can be filmed more chronicle than in the past.

      I think they only shot Studio scenes much earlier or later and maybe the Theon/Euron/GC scenes because they are filmed in a different climate. Or some scenes where an actor can’t really come.

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    64. Chilli,

      The Hound will be Lord Commander of Queen Arya’s Queensguard. Not that she needs protecting or anything….

      #AryaSuperNinjaAssassinWarriorPrincessFantasies

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    65. Ten Bears,

      Since Arya doesn’t need much protecting, perhaps Sandor will have some free time to create a KFC in Westeros.

      Colonel Sanders move over, we’ve got Colonel Sandor to take your place in history! The Lord of Light has a greater purpose for Sandor indeed!

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    66. Mr Derp,

      Great idea! So long as Colonel Sandor is an absentee owner. Because if he is on the premises during business hours, he’s likely to march into the kitchen area and announce….

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    67. Is that what everyone is doing in the Dragonpit? Discussing opening up fast food franchises? Afterall, once the war is over Westeros will need a food supply. Jon Snow creates the first Papa Johns, Lord Robin of the Vale can open up a Baskin Robbins, etc…

      This just writes itself.

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    68. Mr Derp,

      “Lord Robin of the Vale can open up a Baskin Robbins”
      ——————
      I prefer Brienne & Jory’s ice cream.

      (I’ll see myself out.)

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    69. Ten Bears:
      Please, pretty please: Do not suggest a Shireen-themed “Mel’s BBQ.”

      I suppose then that Krispy Kreme Doughnuts or a Sizzler wouldn’t work for you either. 🙂

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    70. Apollo: That would only leave her Friday to shoot any scenes though.

      We’ve been told the initial schedule was to possibly shoot through the 19th, but they have exclusive access to Italica through the 28th to tear down and clean up. That’s nine plus days for post-filming work which feels like there’s some time in there for delays or some filming past the 19th. If necessary for scheduling I imagine they can pay to get the cast to do some extra weekend work. That’s all just my thoughts of course.

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    71. Colin Armfield,

      As long as we’re so far off-topic, allow me to relate what happened to me a few months ago:

      I had to attend an early morning business meeting at a staid law firm, with a bunch of stodgy accountants and straight-laced attorneys sitting around a conference room table. It dragged on for hours. I was bored out of my f*cking mind. It was so torturous, and I was getting so restless, I started daydreaming about pulling a Tommen and jumping out the window. Finally, after what seemed like an enternity, it got close to noon time and I figured we’d be done soon.

      I became even more exasperated when the law firm senior partner leading the meeting, a brilliant, serious, straight-laced women in her late sixties, announced that we weren’t even close to finishing and we’d have to work through lunch. So we all ordered up sandwiches from a gourmet deli that uses those tiny plastic swords to hold together the sandwiches.

      I completely lost it when the senior partner opened the styrofoam container with her sandwich, pulled out the little plastic sword and held it in front of her, and then muttered to herself: “Fine little blade. Maybe I’ll pick my teeth with it.”

      I burst out laughing. So did she. Only the two of us were cracking up. Everyone else must’ve thought we’d gone looney tunes. After that, I didn’t even mind sitting there the rest of the day, knowing there was a kindred spirit in the room. (Of course, we sprinkled snippets of GoT dialogue throughout the rest of the meeting, promoting quizzical looks from everyone else, who had no idea what we were giggling about.)

      GoT fans are everywhere!

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    72. Clob: I suppose then that Krispy Kreme Doughnuts or a Sizzler wouldn’t work for you either. 🙂

      Clob!!! Leave it to you to ignore my request … and cause me to involuntarily empty my sinuses like a Hawaiian volcano. (Anyone know the best way to remove mucus from a cellphone screen?)

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    73. I do think some characters are there as a misdirect but who knows with this story. The main thing is PLEASE LET DANY BE ALIVE.

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    74. Luka Nieto,

      Susan,

      Susan, Javi got confirmation Gemma Whelan is certainly in Seville, along with her family.

      On Reddit there were very lively discussions that past days about a spanish troll who harassed Gemma Whelan online, so she was forced to take down two recent Seville pictures from her social media accounts. The same person has apparently also stalked and harassed Alfie Allen and his family as well as made false claims on twitter about meeting Alfie Allen/Kit Harington.

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    75. Wolfish:
      Stark Raven’ Rad,

      I’m going to Con!!! I need to go check the forum for meeting posts…

      Hurrah!!! Clob’s presumably going too, and Ginevra–they both won contests. This is exciting. When are you getting in?

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    76. Ten Bears:
      Carry,

      I mean, they can’t conclude a TV show based on A Song of Arya and Sandor without The Hound and Arya Super Ninja Assassin Warrior Princess™, right?

      ™ Talvikorppi 2018

      I only come here for the gossip and your comments 😀

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    77. orange: There’s not many conclusions to explain those absences either, other than perhaps the most obvious.

      There are innumerable explanations for this, most of which have nothing to do with the show. In particular, one cast member probably has been scarce there as said actress has been doing the rounds for the Solo movie.

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    78. Luka Nieto,

      Yeah… Look at the Titanic set. The Red Keep gates look like they are only one hundred meters from the City Gates. Let´s see if they use camera´s tricks so it doesn´t look so obvious.

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    79. vortex: The main thing is PLEASE LET DANY BE ALIVE.

      Daenerys is one of the primary protagonists. She’ll be there until the climax of the story at least: and given this type of story, probably beyond.

      (And, no, GRRM has not “killed primary protagonists all the time”: the characters killed so far were not on that list of 5 or 6 characters.)

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    80. Wimsey,

      That isn’t actually an explanation, though. Emilia can only do the press tour if the show doesn’t need her, as the show has first claim on her time. So it still comes down to “where’s Dany?”

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    81. Clob: IF Winterfell was destroyed and IF they all fled to King’s Landing there’s really only two places the “end filming” would be; inside KL (including the Dragonpit) and outside KL/surrounding grounds. They have those just about covered between Italica and Titanic set.

      Well, a conclusion at the Tower of Joy would make sense in terms of the story: but absolutely none in terms of the plot!

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    82. Sean C.,

      But it is an explanation. The key word is “need”: if they can get by filming her scenes at some other point, then they don’t need her.

      Films do this all of the time because of crowded acting schedules. There are lots of iconic movie scenes in which two principle players filmed next to none of the scene together. It obviously is not the preferred way of doing things: but it also is such old hat that it’s only a nuisance.

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    83. So I’ve found an interview that pretty much confirms that Emilia won’t be filming in Seville for those still wondering:

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8WvDcqCe34

      At the 1:50 mark the interviewer asks Emilia about season 8 and she says that she has a break from filming for a couple of weeks.

      Also is it just me or does she suddenly look really sad when asked about GoT?

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    84. Silly thoughts moment… If the NK were to make it to the HoBaW would he animate hundreds of truly faceless men from the crypts? 😛

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    85. Undead Elephant,

      No idea when that interview occured. “Up Next” in Youtube revealed another interview where she was in the same outfit but the time stamp of the upload was three days prior. And we don’t know what kind of time frame “a couple of weeks” started for her.

      And I thought her expression when she was asked about G0T was more like regret that she wasn’t going to be able to tell him anything. When he finally got the question out, she looks a little relieved (maybe) b/c he wasn’t asking plot questions.

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    86. Clob,

      Interesting. Sophie Turner has a grade 1 piano certificate of merit!

      ha, j/k. Damn though, now she’s using the word bittersweet?!? NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      Last day of filming maybe?

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    87. JenStar Runner:
      Undead Elephant,

      No idea when that interview occured. “Up Next” in Youtube revealed another interview where she was in the same outfit but the time stamp of the upload was three days prior. And we don’t know what kind of time frame “a couple of weeks” started for her.

      And I thought her expression when she was asked about G0T was more like regret that she wasn’t going to be able to tell him anything. When he finally got the question out, she looks a little relieved (maybe) b/c he wasn’t asking plot questions.

      These interviews are happening this week and next in the run up to Solo. In another one of these interviews she mentions the royal wedding coming up on Saturday. And in the one I linked she specifically says that she is at the beginning of the couple of week break. She isn’t filming in Seville.

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    88. Clob:
      Silly thoughts moment…If the NK were to make it to the HoBaW would he animate hundreds of truly faceless men from the crypts?

      I don’t remember seeing any of those bodies offered to the Many faced god burned on the show, so ….

      In a related vein…were the bodies in the Winterfell crypts cremated? If not, how much of a risk do they pose if/when the WW come?

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    89. krupke: were the bodies in the Winterfell crypts cremated? If not, how much of a risk do they pose if/when the WW come?

      I would guess they are not cremated, but I don’t know for sure. IMO if WF (allegedly) burns down it’s probably because the AOTD will breach the gates and the Starks would rather see the place burn than have their ancestors come back as wights. Just a guess though.

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    90. Stark Raven’ Rad,

      WHOOHOO!!!

      We’re arriving Sunday the 20th, renting an airbnb for four days, and then moving to the Hyatt on Thursday. We may or may not be visiting with my father before Con (family drama I won’t bore you with). Lonely Cat and Mr. Cat will also be attending. She’s making some AMAZING costumes!

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    91. Mr Derp,

      It´s been… Eight years of her life? She started as a kid and now is a grown woman who is going to marry. This show been a huge part of her life. So she can be emotional about it as much as she wants.

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    92. Ëonwë,

      yeah sophie is good at trolling people i mean why would she put that tweet out if she knows people are going to assume sansa is dead because shes done fliming,i dont think sansa is dead just beacause shes done fliming but who knows i could be wrong but lets just say she is dead but why would sansa die in the dragonpit

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    93. athony jordan:
      Ëonwë,

      yeah sophie is good at trolling people i mean why would she put that tweet out if she knows people are going to assume sansa is dead because shes done fliming,i dont think sansa is dead just beacause shes done fliming but who knows i could be wrong but lets just say she is dead but why would sansa die in the dragonpit

      Yeah, her being done filming has very little to do with whether her character survives or not. I would bet that whatever they’re filming in Italica is for 8×06, but I doubt that her last scene of the series would take place at the Dragonpit. That would likely be filmed in Belfast, but who knows.

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    94. athony jordan,

      Are people still with the whole “Sansa is gonna die”? Every season the same damn thing. Up until last week a lot of people thougth that Sansa was dead because she wasn´t seen in Ireland. Those 55 nights of shooting. Sophie wasn´t for that part of filming simply because Sansa isn´t gonna fight. Pretty much of Sophie shooting is done indoors.

      We know that she is gonna make it to episode 6. What´s her journey end it´s up. Personally I believe she will become, at least, the north ruler.

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    95. Ten Bears:
      Mr Derp,

      “Lord Robin of the Vale can open up a Baskin Robbins”
      —————— I prefer Brienne & Jory’s ice cream.

      (I’ll see myself out.)

      NO. DO NOT BRING JORY INTO THIS.
      *bursts into tears*

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    96. Why do people assume that tweet means is Sophies last day shooting? Maybe the bittersweet part is more something that was shoot? Maybe a funeral. (First feeling was Dany’s funeral was shot when I read her tweet)

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    97. kevin1989,

      But why would that be bittersweet for Sophie? She probably rarely interacted with Emilia, as they filmed in separate locations for several years. It seems clear that either her filming has wrapped completely or it’s the last time her and Maisie will shoot together.

      It’s mid May after all, it’s entirely likely some of the main cast will finish shooting soon, without necessarily meaning they’ll die.

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    98. kevin1989: First feeling was Dany’s funeral was shot when I read her tweet

      I don’t know, maybe it’s like how some people jump to the conclusion that other characters are dead… Maybe it was a different funeral. Kit showed up just in time to be a dead body on a slab after all… 😉

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    99. No Bronn? No Hound? Who’s going to do all the swearing?

      I have a bad feeling about Dany. It’s hard to imagine a scenario where she’s off somewhere else and Jorah isn’t by her side.

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    100. I must admit that I find the very idea of Varys surviving the series amusing. It would be another mark missed by good Meli.

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    101. Ëonwë: I must admit that I find the very idea of Varys surviving the series amusing. It would be another mark missed by good Meli.

      Well, she’s always been right about what would happen: it’s just been her interpretation of what she’s seen that’s been wrong. Let’s face it, she’s trying to predict exactly what’s going to happen in a film or TV series based on the equivalent of trailer scenes: and as we all know, that’s often a foolhardy task!

      In this case, given how specific Mel’s foreknowledge is, I expect that she’s actually seen Varys dead, not just something like downed Bolton banners.

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    102. Apollo,

      True that they could be finished, but it could easily be that she filmed a bittersweet scene, for an actor that can be very emotional filming some scenes, it could be that they shot a funeral scene and that the emotion of that scene was felt through the whole cast and crew. (remember Red Wedding where almost every cast and crew was crying on set)

      I think we need to wait a little longer if Sophie will be on set later on or not. If she is on set later on, she was clearly talking about the content of the scene.

      Clob: I don’t know, maybe it’s like how some people jump to the conclusion that other characters are dead…Maybe it was a different funeral.Kit showed up just in time to be a dead body on a slab after all…

      Please no. Not Jon. He already died before. But as long as it isn’t our lovely Arya that bites the dust.

      Ëonwë:
      I must admit that I find the very idea of Varys surviving the series amusing. It would be another mark missed by good Meli.

      Maybe it’s a ruse that the actor is there. Maybe they just messing with our heads by getting some actors there, but for instance not Emilia.
      And about Varys, will he ever be reunited with his magical balls?

      And how will Varys react once he know LF is death. He always had a hate/love relationship with him (more admiration instead of love but you get the point)

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    103. Ëonwë: Are people still with the whole “Sansa is gonna die”? Every season the same damn thing.

      Fandoms treat the Fallacy of Affirming the Antecedent as a code to life rather than as, well, fallacious thinking…. 😎

      That stated, Sansa is the most prominent character that I can envision dying before the climax. It’s still not 100% clear to me that she’s actually one of the primary protagonists. However, it is about 95% clear to me that she is, at least on the show: and as such, I expect her to be there for the climax. You don’t throw away that much development and evolution of a character before the zenith.

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    104. Ëonwë:
      I must admit that I find the very idea of Varys surviving the series amusing. It would be another mark missed by good Meli.

      Not really. All she said was that Varys would die in Westeros. She never said when.

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    105. Wouldn’t it be WAY too soon for her to be done filming? Didn’t she just get to Spain, with weeks of shooting planned there?

      Also she told the Xmen lot she wouldn’t be able to film until September. She’s totally not done.

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    106. Sean C.:
      Wimsey,

      That isn’t actually an explanation, though.Emilia can only do the press tour if the show doesn’t need her, as the show has first claim on her time.So it still comes down to “where’s Dany?”

      On maternity leave with Gilly and Missandei.

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    107. Adam,

      I have a bad feeling about Dany also. If the Seville filming is the gathering after the war, then she should filming with the others. However, to be fair if she is on Drogon for most of the war, Jorah can’t be at her side. I cannot imagine that Emilia and Iain will film as many scenes together as in the previous seasons.

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    108. BeardedOnion:
      Also she told the Xmen lot she wouldn’t be able to film until September. She’s totally not done.

      That X-Men thing isn’t confirmed, as far as I know. It was a stray report on a comic book site.

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    109. Ten Bears,

      I burst out laughing. So did she. Only the two of us were cracking up. Everyone else must’ve thought we’d gone looney tunes. After that, I didn’t even mind sitting there the rest of the day, knowing there was a kindred spirit in the room. (Of course, we sprinkled snippets of GoT dialogue throughout the rest of the meeting, promoting quizzical looks from everyone else, who had no idea what we were giggling about.)

      I love this. During our walk out, someone designed a Red for Ed shirt that reads ‘November is Coming’ (meaning November elections) complete with the GOT font. Had to buy it of course and usually run into nother fan each day I wear it!

      BTW Your ideas for francises is hilarious!

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    110. BeardedOnion,

      No. She’s been there since last week and one of the first to arrive after Maisie, who apparently got there early to chill out by the pool. They only have scheduled filming through this week as well, not “weeks.” It sounds like they’ll be done there soon. Filming overall is suppose to end within about a month and a half so it’s entirely possible that her final scenes could be filmed already if they’ve saved battle scenes for last. Personal life and those plans can be a factor in other scheduling.

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    111. Wimsey: Let’s face it, she’s trying to predict exactly what’s going to happen in a film or TV series based on the equivalent of trailer scenes: and as we all know, that’s often a foolhardy task!

      Or say, predict what’s going to happen in a film or TV series based on filming information. Oh my God, we’re Melisandre!

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