HBO releases 3 new Game of Thrones season 6 clips!

CJ
The excitement just won’t stop today! HBO has now released three clips from the new season of Game of Thrones. The clips include dramatic scenes from the premiere with Cersei and Jaime, and Sansa and Theon, and then there is one from the third episode featuring Daenerys.

Beware of spoilers,  naturally but most of all- enjoy!

Jaime and Cersei:

Sansa and Theon:

Daenerys and the Dothraki:

Remember when HBO was giving us nothing at all? It’s all here. All of it. At once. And it’s so damned amazing.

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    1. We really are being spoilt! It doesn’t seem that long ago that we were all begging for the first trailer, but now we have 2 unbelievable trailers, some great clips, an episode title, pictures, interviews, and so much more.

      My excitement levels are continuing to shoot up. Come on episode 1!!!

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    2. The Vaes Dothrak effects look quite wonky, but it’s nice to be there again.

      The Northern landscape looks amazing. Never looked better. Is that Iceland?

      And oh man, Lenna Headey is such an amazing actress.

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    3. The Dothraki soundtrack is back in full force!

      I need the soundtrack album and I need Lena to win an Emmy!

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    4. Ah, so HBO is releasing these because those are the clips that will be shown when the cast does the talk show rounds this week.

      That Theon and Sansa clip was intense. But, Sansa girl, don’t stop running!!

      LOL at the Dothraki telling Dany “Hey, great Khaleesi, move your ass.” LMAO. He’ll soon regret it but it was funny. Yikes, Dany is going to be marching for 3 episodes? Drogon is taking his sweet time saving mommy.

      Jaime & Cersei, meh. Still don’t feel an ounce of pity for Cersei.

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    5. Wow, I consider this a belated bday present. I came back here to finally watch the trailer unmolested by my worker bees and now this? What a great day!

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    6. Excitement Level before these clips: 100000000000
      Excitement Level after these clips: 1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000

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    7. The dothraki soundtrack had me with
      goosebumps!!

      Ugh Dany only enters Vaes Dothrak by episode3? 🙁 thought it would be episode 2 at most.

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    8. Looks like Dany will only have one or two scenes in ep. 1 (of which we’ve seen promotional photos), she won’t be in ep. 2 and will only enter Vaes Dothrak in ep. 3.

      That’s kind of disappointing to me, because unlike everyone else around here obsessing about the North, I’m actually looking forward to the Dorthraki story line.

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    9. We’ve hit the GoT season 6 footage Jackpot!!! Sooooo much to take in…..but wouldn’t change a thing! Have LOVED every minute of all of it! Beyond amazing trailer and now even more scenes! Over -the-top excited with the Sansa/Theon stuff!

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    10. Connor,

      Presumably the season begins with her talking to her captors on the way there.

      Honestly, I’m a bit surprised people were expecting her to get there earlier.

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    11. I was assuming that the “strong man” (from The Red Women episode description) she meets was the Khal at the end of this clip but I guess not.

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    12. Dany usually doesn’t show up by EP 02 or 03 so it makes sense that we’ll probably not have her in EP 2. EP03 should be her getting stripped and humiliated. EP 04 her big episode of the season.

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    13. I suppose HBO must be extremely confident to release the trailer, and these clips, on the same day. Not that I’m complaining. Just an observation. 🙂

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    14. Luka Nieto:
      The Vaes Dothrak effects look quite wonky, but it’s nice to be there again.

      The Northern landscape looks amazing. Never looked better. Is that Iceland?

      And oh man, Lenna Headey is such an amazing actress.

      What do you mean wonky?

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    15. Wow.. every time I refresh my browser there is always something new!!!
      Damn.. An awesome trailer, then 3 new fuckin clips!!! What a day!!!
      More!!! Bring us more! Felt like they answered our whining for new footage with brute force

      HBO marketing style: STARVE them first, FEAST them later

      Loving this… Keep adding more to the banquet!

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    16. Jay Targ,

      The guy from that clip is Joe Naufahu and he’s listed in EP01. Its either him or the one who was mocking her titles in that Targaryen teaser (Andrei Claude).

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    17. James Hibberd of EW says, “And the third is actually from the second episode of the season and shows captured Dany (Emilia Clarke) getting her first look at the spawling Dothraki city of Vaes Dothrak.”
      Either he’s wrong or the YT clip is mislabeled.

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    18. Pounce,

      Could be episode 10. But episode 04 is the one that took more time to shoot in Spain. Plus had more extras. When she arrives in Meereen there will probably be a battle but unfortunately I guess there won’t be much time/budget left for that after the battle of the bastards.

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    19. Thomas Sandstone,

      I wonder if it’s something to do with the fact that the premiere was shown yesterday and they think that if they bombard us with stuff, there’s a smaller chance of leaks. Hey, I’m not complaining.

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    20. Annnnnndddd…. I’m dead. I’m just dead. The hype train raneth me over. My old heart could not take anymore.

      HOW I AM SUPPOSED TO BE SUSTAINED ON ~3 MINUTES?!?!

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    21. that Jamie/Cersie clp was actually quite moving..Lena is amazing

      its good to see dothraki back in force.. didnt realize how much I enjoyed them from season 1

      thyat Sansa/Theon clip though.. I yelled “No!!” when it stopped..its pretty good sign when 50 secs of footage can pull you in like that

      and music is ON POINt again it seems..will be buying the soundtrack for the 6th season for sure 😀

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    22. Connor,

      Hell yea. I’m expecting some bad ass and menacing Bolton themes in the OST.

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    23. VegoDread:
      WOW – it’s too much for one day.

      It kinda is too much. I’m trying to get stuff done but I’m so distracted by all these gifts HBO has given us today. At this point, I think I’m okay if we don’t get much else. Except maybe 1 or 2 more clips when the cast goes on talk shows next week. Because right now, I’m on the verge of sensory overload.

      Jack Bauer 24: EW article said Episode 2.

      That makes more sense. It’s possible the clip is just labeled wrong.

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    24. So much new footage!!! Theon has redeemed himself 110% in my books, for real! I’m bummed we won’t see Dany until episode three 🙁 oh well, there are a lot of loose ends to tie up. I don’t feel any sympathy for Cersei and Jamie… sorry not sorry

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    25. They still fucked up the continuity on that Dany scene.

      Everyone is moving forward, she stops and looks straight up looking forward, and everyone is moving forward around her flanks.

      But in the pullback scene she is standing sideways, looking up at the statue not facing the same way forward all the crowd is walking.

      Then is goes back to the close camera and she is facing forward the same way the crowd is moving forward again.

      It’s not a big deal and doesn’t bother me to much but still, I can’t ignore it and it kind of ruins that scene for me personally… Makes the whole thing scream fake to me.

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    26. IS IT JUST ME OR DOES DANY LOOK SUPER PREGNANT wow I could be wrong her hipsnlook wide and she looks chubbier someone tell me I’m not mistaken…. The seed is strong with DAARIO!!!!!!!

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    27. Watching waiting:
      IS IT JUST ME OR DOES DANY LOOK SUPER PREGNANT wow I could be wrong her hipsnlook wide and she looks chubbier someone tell me I’m not mistaken…. The seed is strong with DAARIO!!!!!!!

      Oh God – please nooooooooooo.

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    28. Watching waiting:
      IS IT JUST ME OR DOES DANY LOOK SUPER PREGNANT wow I could be wrong her hipsnlook wide and she looks chubbier someone tell me I’m not mistaken…. The seed is strong with DAARIO!!!!!!!

      I hope not.

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    29. Agro,

      Yeah I can live with it.

      I just have such a high standard for this show I expect it to be flawless.

      I think this error was a simple miscue with the VFX department.

      The only thing that annoys me is that its so easily fixed!!!

      D&D just have to tell them to reCGI Dany in that shot facing forward, the same way the crowd is moving, with her head looking up to her left. It’s a fast scene and this fix would be easily done with like no cost in a few hours.

      I doubt many people will notice it, after all I use a 70′ HD TV to watch these trailers on YouTube so I caught it immediately. Lol

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    30. Agro,

      This channel does some weird shit sometimes…also they haven’t heard of 1080p in 20 f*cking 16, that’s hilarious. I don’t understand the guys in charge, I really don’t.

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    31. Watching waiting:
      IS IT JUST ME OR DOES DANY LOOK SUPER PREGNANT wow I could be wrong her hipsnlook wide and she looks chubbier someone tell me I’m not mistaken…. The seed is strong with DAARIO!!!!!!!

      Yeah she totally is, you’re right. Sansa is too, it’s already been discussed at length – but I can let you in on a little secret from the producers (I shouldn’t really say anything but I have it on good authority, because my mom’s cousin’s daughter’s friend once went to Ireland and that’s the country where some scenes are filmed). Anyway, there’s huge rumours around set that Tyrion is also knocked up, and it’s all because of a drunken night with Varys.

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    32. Lord of Bones,

      Nah, I just love this show so I am very hypercritical about anything in it I see that snaps my mind out of the fantasy epic.

      Although it’s only a tiny miscue on that scene, it does snap my brain out of Westeros and back into reality because sadly I noticed it. I much rather have stayed in Westeros though…

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    33. Watching waiting,

      I don’t think she can have babies. She mentioned to Jorah in season 3? 4? that her dragons were the only children she would ever have. I think it has something to do with the magic from season 1…. 🙁

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    34. Also, the Sansa and Theon clip shows us how beautiful and breathtaking the North is. If im correct, is that all real landscape and no greenscreen? Either way, still amazing.

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    35. Watching waiting,

      naah, not pregnant.. Emilla just has a “real” body..hips and tits and rounded shoulders that show every ounce..plus she is on the short side and that costume doesnt do her any favors

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    36. Connor:
      What happened to the first Season 6 trailer on YouTube?? It had 30 million views and its now gone…

      They deleted an awesome trailer with 30 million views, which is a record for them, for some very strange reason.

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    37. Watching waiting,

      Dude, Emilia has a very thick body build, not fat, she’s curvy in a good sexy way and always has been. She looks the same to me.

      The seed is strong with DAARIO!!!!!!!

      Lol, now that was freaking funny though!

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    38. Jack Bauer 24,

      There’s actually 3 different replies I’ve come across so far .. One about what’s dead may never die and the other with what do we say to death … Not today …

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    39. Okay so I watched the Dany clip a dozen times now and all D&D have to do to fix it is have them reCGI Dany facing forward looking up instead of sideways, her standing sideways is the only thing that breaks the sequence…

      I’m done, moving on, today was so awesome its like Xmas.

      Thank you HBO!!!

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    40. Connor:
      What happened to the first Season 6 trailer on YouTube?? It had 30 million views and its now gone…

      It seems that for whatever reason they decided to make this video private.

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    41. A.) I think HBO has done all this to divert us from possible leaks 😉 B.) It´s funny how Cercei says ¨mamá¨just like the Victorian Elites used to address their mothers…I never thought the writing team would have used that term;very peculiar

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    42. The creator of the dothraki language said we’ll have more dothraki lines this season than S1 and S2 had. Combined! I love this language so much.

      EP 04 will totally mirror Dany’s EP04 from S6. She’ll probably win another army slaying someone who was in charge speaking a foreign language. There, she spoke valyrian and got an army of unsullied. Here, she’ll speak dothraki and get a khalasar.

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    43. When filming spoilers came out I saw I think it was pretty clear that Sansa’s storyline is going to tie into the Vale and Petry entirely because they’re not just going to leave that behind and that Jon and Sansa might not actually be working entirely together. The Reddit description makes that seem even more likely. Truthfully, I think Davos only works with Sansa if Jon isn’t alive when he leaves with her. Perhaps that’s the first Jon and Sansa even reunite? I STILL maintain Sansa doesn’t go to Castle Black

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    44. Alex G,

      I would have never noticed it, had you not pointed it out. Then again, when I talk about my mother, I refer to her as “mama” quite often. No, I don’t put the accent on the second syllable, but I’m not British.

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    45. OT : Does anyone here have visited the “Rant and rave without repercussions” thread on westeros.org ? Oh boy…this is something else. It’s a very entertaining read if you laugh at depressed people, who can’t enjoy the show anymore because their favorite book series was “ruined” by the double demons known as D&D.

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    46. Nadia,

      I’m kind of becoming increasingly puzzled how/when/where Jon Snow fits into what we know is going to happen. If I didn’t see the leaked set picture I’d probably be nervous by this point.

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    47. lp:
      Nadia,

      I’m kind of becoming increasingly puzzled how/when/where Jon Snow fits into what we know is going to happen. If I didn’t see the leaked set picture I’d probably be nervous by this point.

      I think you can more or less put Jon in a lot of the Sansa or Davos scenes.

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    48. Arthur:
      They still fucked up the continuity on that Dany scene.

      Everyone is moving forward, she stops and looks straight up looking forward, and everyone is moving forward around her flanks.

      But in the pullback scene she is standing sideways, looking up at the statue not facing the same way forward all the crowd is walking.

      Then is goes back to the close camera and she is facing forward the same way the crowd is moving forward again.

      It’s not a big deal and doesn’t bother me to much but still, I can’t ignore it and it kind of ruins that scene for me personally…Makes the whole thing scream fake to me.

      Is it not at all conceivable that maybe, just maybe, she turns to her side in the moment between the close up camera and the wide shot…. it does appear as if she is turning around in a circle looking at the mass herd of people brushing passed her….??
      … or maybe i’m clutching at straws… either way: don’t be a nit-picking nit-picker 😉 …

      OH! Also, given this is a preview clip, it is possible they may have cut a section of footage between the shots which has her change of direction accounted for…?

      who knows! whatever the answer, we can all agree…. Hodor.

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    49. Arthur,

      I understand your squabble. I just run into a lot of people that are too up tight about this kind of stuff. Especially the ASOIAF/GOT fans, lol. To me the cinematography from these few clips look excellent. Especially the scene with sansa and reek. The music also adds to the atmosphere, you can clearly see that a lot of money and work went into this season already. Imagine what they would do for season 7 and 8…

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    50. Apparently being slightly more bulky than the previous season is cause for everyone to speculate about character pregnancies. Just, just no. First it was Sansa and now it’s Dany. Get real people.

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    51. OK, I can’t take much more of this onslaught of goodies from Season 6! 😀 HBO, please, give us a break! It’s all too much!

      The Cersei-Jaime scene is very moving. Even in her Walk of Shame, I had little sympathy for her, because she invited those nutjobs, the Sparrows, in. But this…… ah. 🙁
      Daenerys coming “Home” to Vaes Dothrak – hmmm…… I think she will slowly reach boiling point over the first three episodes and actually START the fire herself in Episode 4. The way they keep showing her hand caressing the brazier, I feel she will tilt it over and set fire to the tent. Then, as if on cue from Mommy, Drogon will arrive.

      Theon and Sansa, beautiful imagery and good to see Theon growing a pair again!

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    52. Kay:
      OK, I can’t take much more of this onslaught of goodies from Season 6! HBO, please, give us a break! It’s all too much!

      The Cersei-Jaime scene is very moving. Even in her Walk of Shame, I had little sympathy for her, because she invited those nutjobs, the Sparrows, in. But this…… ah.
      Daenerys coming “Home” to Vaes Dothrak – hmmm…… I think she will slowly reach boiling point over the first three episodes and actually START the fire herself in Episode 4. The way they keep showing her hand caressing the brazier, I feel she will tilt it over and set fire to the tent. Then, as if on cue from Mommy, Drogon will arrive.

      Theon and Sansa, beautiful imagery and good to see Theon growing a pair again!

      Give us a break? No! You remember that when we’re in the 10 month off season again come the end of June!

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    53. Connor:
      If Dany only arrive at Vaes Dothrak in episode 3, what the hell does she do the first 2 episodes?

      Yeah, I’m not getting a good vibe from her story line, so far. But Emilia sounded really amped about the season when she got the scripts, so I’ll bet there’s a lot for her later on in the season that they’re holding back.

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    54. Agro:
      Jack Bauer 24,

      But was it really deleted instead of set to private? And could it be so that the new trailer gets more views when people search? Questions, many questions…

      How do you view a private video? I subscribe to their YT channel and still can’t see it. I guess it’s so more people see the new trailer like you said. I can’t find the Season 5 Trailer #1 either on their channel.

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    55. Rewatching Trailer #2 and yeah, the NK really looks weird in the shot of him and the WW’s approaching the fire. His face looks really different.

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    56. Kargaryen,

      Yeah, I saw that in the other thread, but since WOTW did not report on it, I wondered if they were fake. I like the titles though, both the titles could relate to multiple storylines.

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    57. Is anyone else bothered by Sansa and Theon running so freely shortly after jumping from that height? Or am I being nitpick-y?

      No I’m not advocating having major characters badly hurt and crawling around for half a season. That’d get boring real fast. I just hope there’s some quick explanation to sell that they seem mostly unscathed from that jump.

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    58. Ravyn,

      I mean I think they assume you buy dragons so whatever?

      In all seriousness it amuses me that people demand a certain element of realism in things while simultaneously talking about the dead coming.

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    59. this is a recap of last night and some vague (maybe slightly spoilerish) recap of the first episode from The Telegraph. The best tease is “”The Red Woman” of the episode’s title, the mystical Melisandre – who was left at Castle Black along with Jon Snow’s corpse as season five closed – in no way dominates the action, but by the hour’s end, with a luridly surprising twist, sets the scene for some powerful sorcery to come.”

      http://www.telegraph.co.uk/tv/2016/04/11/game-of-thrones-season-6-world-premiere-is-jon-snow-dead/

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    60. Luka Nieto,

      Yeah. Wow! I actually felt compassion with Cersei, something I thought I’d never experience…
      Jaime’s lame philosophy, ‘Don’t think about it…”
      and that last line, ‘I have to…’ —
      so pitifully brilliant.

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    61. Ravyn:
      Nadia,

      Suspension of disbelief doesn’t really work like that. Bones are bones, and they break, unless we’re talking about superheroes.

      They jumped into a snow bank. And those walls arent 80 ft tall. The snow clearly broke their fall.

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    62. Arthur:
      They still fucked up the continuity on that Dany scene.

      Everyone is moving forward, she stops and looks straight up looking forward, and everyone is moving forward around her flanks.

      But in the pullback scene she is standing sideways, looking up at the statue not facing the same way forward all the crowd is walking.

      Then is goes back to the close camera and she is facing forward the same way the crowd is moving forward again.

      It’s not a big deal and doesn’t bother me to much but still, I can’t ignore it and it kind of ruins that scene for me personally…Makes the whole thing scream fake to me.

      Ive rewatched it and at no point is she “sideways” to the direction everyone is walking. If anything, the camera angle they initially show of the hind hooves of the horse statue up above doesnt quite match up with the angle that climbs up and shows the two horses heads coming together… regardless, its such a small point of contention its not even worth discussion.

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    63. Ravyn:
      Is anyone else bothered by Sansa and Theon running so freely shortly after jumping from that height? Or am I being nitpick-y?

      No I’m not advocating having major characters badly hurt and crawling around for half a season.That’d get boring real fast. I just hope there’s some quick explanation to sell that they seem mostly unscathed from that jump.

      I saw a video of a Russian guy jump nine stories, on fire, and land in a snowbank about five foot high, and he walked out of it. Then again, he is a Russian. Here’s the video.

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    64. Ravyn,

      80 ft. is quite a leap, so maybe the show shrinks the height of the outer wall. It is snowing quite a bit there, however, and that would lead to a fairly significant drift against the wall.

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    65. Esmail,

      While I agree with you completely that their fall was broken by a snow drift, the outer walls of Winterfell are, indeed, 80 feet high.
      “The outer wall is eighty feet high, while the inner is one hundred feet high, with a wide moat between them.”
      -A Wiki of Ice and Fire
      Of course, those dimensions do not need to be followed by the show. From the looks of it, the walls on the show are maybe 40 feet.

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    66. Ravyn:
      Is anyone else bothered by Sansa and Theon running so freely shortly after jumping from that height? Or am I being nitpick-y?

      No I’m not advocating having major characters badly hurt and crawling around for half a season.That’d get boring real fast. I just hope there’s some quick explanation to sell that they seem mostly unscathed from that jump.

      It did bother me (especially the ‘there’s a snowbank to cushion them!’ explanation), but now I just fully expect them to either not show the landing at all, or just do a brief “Jiminy Cricket that stung a little!”, and carry on. Maybe limp for a few meters.

      Anyone who’s ever done a belly flop into water from any particular height, or landed oddly on a trampoline, or been trapped in a snowbank for a few terrifying moments could tell you that having a buffer from the ground doesn’t mean it isn’t gonna mess you up. 😉

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    67. dwm,

      In the books, Ramsey and his men threw someone off the battlements into an 80 foot snow drift and they limped off with what appeared to be a broken leg (and Theon saw this) … so you knew that it was possible to jump and survive

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    68. Pigeon,

      The snowat Winterfell in the books is exponentially greater than that shown on show (CGI snow = $$$). The walls on the show are not as high … my guess … and this is not based on any science … is that if you had a 40 foot wall and a 20 plus foot snow drift that was not icy but that broke your fall as you fell and kept compressing to slow your fall, you might, if you were lucky, survive without breaking a bone … but that’s all conjecture

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    69. Flayed Potatoes,

      There was a hint of that in the books, or rather of her getting her period back. It would be weird to have them jump that hurdle/shark here.

      Alternatively she might be about to pop dragon eggs after her fiery ride on Drogon.

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    70. Is the acting really that great? Sad stuff seems to make us think acting is better than it is. It’s still good acting but not Oscar worthy.

      Oscar winning movies tend to be really sad I suppose so I guess it works. I just don’t naturally think “wow, amazing acting” for Lena or NCW.

      I have been impressed with several of Peter Dinklage’s scenes over the years. I liked Cersei’s scene with Tommen when she was going to poison him in season 2.

      I find you can honestly see the difference though in acting skill when you watch Diana Rigg, Charles Dance, or Jonathan Pryce. They don’t need sad material either to be super impressive.

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    71. Kargaryen,

      The Home title for ep 2 works well – if it’s legit.

      Sansa wants to take back her home.

      Dany is far from home but also returned home.

      Sam is taking Gilly to his home.

      And Jon

      Has no home or is about to take his home back.

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    72. Pigeon,

      In the book the snow drifts are about 30-40 feet high [Spoiler] and Theon does break a leg. Sustaining a fracture on screen would however make their escape seem unrealistic so that’s probably why they’re glossing over it in the books. Also in the books they don’t have to get far because their are Stark Loyalist’s practicing a little psychological drum warfare in the woods. [Spoiler]

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    73. Maybe it is misleading but what we’ve seen of S6 so far looks intense across the board. Cersei has her coiled energy back, Jamie seems poised for action, Sansa and Davos show intent. It just radiates a bit more more purpose than S5. Last year had lots of good stuff but was uneven. Feeling hopeful.

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    74. Jack Bauer 24: EW article said Episode 2.

      We had a hint before that the Vaes Dothrak scenes (including the fire that burns down that bigger building we have now been shown in the new Dany clip at 0:54) will happen at episode 3 or 4, because they were directed by Daniel Sackheim: Hint.

      Regarding that ominous brazier: we see it in two scenes of the new trailer. At 0:20 the scene with Dany’s hand that we saw before, and at 0:31 where she is forced by the other women to disrobe in a humiliating way. Probably cause they don’t believe / accept her claims; and then she proves her identity as Mother ofd Dragons by touching that glowing brazier of fire.

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    75. Aguero,

      I only have one complaint with the Dothraki horses. How would they be able to create such stunning statues but still be a nomadic peoples? Just doesn’t make sense.

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    76. Does it seem as though Dany has a slightly hopeful look when the khal at the end greets her? Maybe a hint that at least one of them could become an ally?

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    77. Redxgod,

      Of course.

      I’m sure their are a few others home plays going on else where also.

      They question is will the children be good and share their toys?

      Probably not.

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    78. Anyone else griped by how completley different Vaes Dothrak looks? Seriously, compare season 1 photos to screenshots of the above video. That being said the new Vaes looks great.

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    79. Mihnea:
      singedbylife,

      It’s the same in the books.

      There are 2 options in my opinion. They either stole them or they where given to them as gifts from other cities.

      Pretty sure in the books it says that many things in Vaes Dothrak are either stolen or were given as tribute. In any case the Dothraki appear to be semi-nomadic like the Mongols who also had cities like Karakorum. People probably come and go from Vaes Dothrak but don’t necessarily settle there permanently (though some may do).

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    80. LordDavos,

      Just a guess, but when we all see S6, we’ll appreciate S5 as the necessary building blocks for it. I understand some of your uneven complaints, re: execution. But I suspect we’ll find very few story decisions that didn’t pan out.

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    81. LordDavos,

      My prediction.

      Drogon shows before the Khalasar who takes Dany captive, not in Vaes Dothrak, at least not yet.

      Those Dothraki are now, kinda loyal or are ready to follow Dany, so they summon the other Khals to take a decision.

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    82. Looking through what we have seen Dorne seems to have been consigned to history. Although the Show was not doing it justice anyway.

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    83. Redxgod:
      Looking through what we have seen Dorne seems to have been consigned to history. Although the Show was not doing it justice anyway.

      The Dornish actors filmed this season.

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    84. Redxgod,

      Whenever I hear this remark I can’t but laugh.

      First, the actors where filming, and we saw Keisha at the premiere.

      Secondly, I thought they did it more then justice, I thought it was much more better then the mess that it was in the books.
      So please speak for yourself.

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    85. If a certain scene is happening at the end of episode 4 then I guess this dany scene should be in episode 2 …and what we saw in that Spain promo video dany talking to a girl can be in episode 3..

      I personally feel that dany should be in all 10 episodes since she has lots of materials to cover. It looks like her arc in ADWd is given to tyrion..a shame
      If episode 9 is just battle of bastards like blackwater and watchers on the wall ..then I hope dany appear in 9 episodes …enough appearing only in 8 episodes when other main characters appear 10 episodes a season ..

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    86. Mihnea,

      I am here to provide laughs so job done for the day.

      We can agree to disagree on the rest. The Sandsnakes in the books are fierce the show not so much.

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    87. Redxgod,

      They are a joke.
      The manly one with weapons, the sneaky one with knives and the innocent looking one with poison, who is also a slut. At least in the show we actaully see them fighting and trying to do something.
      Not like in the books where they are arrested at the end of the first chapter they appear in, and appear again 7 years later in a second book for 3 lines.

      So again please speak for yourself.

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    88. I am calling it now. Cersei will ask Jaime not to put Myrcella in a crypt and she will give her to Qyburn to keep bring her back to life.
      There is no reason for a normal mother, to make such thoughts of he child who just died. She seems very calm.

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    89. Mihnea:
      Redxgod,
      So again please speak for yourself.

      I think that’s what he did.

      Regarding the Sand Snakes, I’m no fan of them in either books or show, but you’ve described why they’re IMO much better in the books. Each one talks to Doran and we get to see they have different personalities, appearances, motivations and backgrounds, and different ideas on how to respond to Oberyn’s death (full war on Oldtown, sneaky assassinations and guerrilla warfare, respectivelly).
      In the show they’re simply Ellaria’s goons (Nymeria hardly speaks at all), and bad ones at that (she had Myrcella a knifepoint, for God’s sake).
      I’m not going to say I like them, ’cause they’re just evil (Obara exploits his father’s death to advocate for an act of mass violence even though it’s totally unrelated, and Nymeria wants to kill an 9-year-old), but they’re better characters IMO.

      So the next time you say “John Doe in the books is a joke”, please remember to speak for yourself (kidding ?)

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    90. Nymeria Warrior Queen:
      Alex G,

      Damn, I bet Lena would have made a fantastic Elizabeth Bennet 15-20 years ago!!!

      Jennifer Ehle (who would likely have been Caitlyn if she hadn’t had a young family that she didn’t want to spend time away from in the early days of GoT) is still the definitive Elizabeth Bennett for me – admittedly that’s 1995 so 21 years ago.

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    91. Tywin of the Hill,

      I did want to put a ”I consider” before my reply, but I forgot.

      Yes my comment is purely my subjective opinion on why I didn’t like them in the books and consider them ”OK” in the show.

      Seeing them meating Doran and having 3 different ways to deal with Oberyn’s death is exactly why I don’t like them. From that chapter you know everything about all 3, they are one-note characters.
      Bad characters that Martin tries hard to push down my throat as ”badass’ and dengerous. And for me he fails.
      They aren’t Ellaria’s goons to me, they chose to help her in her revenge. They don’t even do this in the books
      The fact that they get imprisoned at the end of the very first chapter they appear points just how big of a joke they are.

      But Martin still tries to convince me that they are dangerous and badass, but we don’t see them again for 6-7 years. And when we do they are again the one-note characters they where before.

      They all have 1 perfect trait witch Doran can use them for.

      Anyway, I’m going further into this. I said my opinion. I like them better in the show. Not by much but I like that they actaully try to do something.

      Anyway it isn’t the Sand Snakes that made me like Dorne better in the show. It’s Arrianne’s absence, Quentyn’s and Darkstars. And I’m not even going into the entire Arys thing and how I think the characterization, of all characters there except Doran is a utter joke.

      I also liked that they didn’t try to make Dorne this new big ”player” that Martin tried and failed, for me, I liked that they tied it into a major existing story, Jaime’s, and turned into a side story for him.

      I expect it will be the same in the future, but with Dany.

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    92. El-Bobbie,

      Oh thank you

      I sort of wished that he will end up on dany side and be there till the series ends and not turn as a dragon food ..because I like this guy out off all the dothraki cast..

      Regarding WW what happened to the number 13 ..it seems they started to focus on 4 horsemen of Apocalypse …I would like to see the presence of 13 again

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    93. I still believe that when Arya finishes her training she will be given a great task to test her loyalty. To Kill the reborn Jon Snow. The many faced god will want his face.

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    94. Mihnea,

      It’s also interesting because she spent all this time fighting slavers yet the Dothraki are at the heart of the trade. Obviously she has to change that culture as well.

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    95. Redxgod,

      Yes! This. I had a funny suspicion about that very thing. And it’d be one very good reason why she would say fans will love, yet hate, this season and something like them finding it hard to stick by her.

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    96. Simon,

      She will probally learn from her mistakes in Meereen. Instead of trying to please both sides, she will just force the Dothraki to abandon slavery.

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    97. Simon,

      When she takes control of dothraki she will make them stop slavery since she will be Khaleesi of Khals the dothraki will follow her orders .
      In this way she is taking out one of the major contributors to the slavery out so only ghiscari and volantis will remain which shall be destroyed using the dothraki. Kind of like two kill with one stone .

      This is the reason I always believed in dothraki coming back

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    98. Simon,

      I guess she will come to realization when she is with them an idea to end the slavery once and for all.
      In the books I think she already realized that hence the line ” to go forward you must go back “and decides to follow the khalasar

      When she takes control of dothraki she will make them stop slavery since she will be Khaleesi of Khals the dothraki will follow her orders .
      In this way she is taking out one of the major contributors to the slavery out so only ghiscari and volantis will remain which shall be destroyed using the dothraki. Kind of like two kill with one stone .

      This is the reason I always believed in dothraki coming back

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    99. I’m excited about the scene with Tyron and the dragons. So far the dragons where hostile towards everybody except Dany. It will be most interesting to see how they will react to Tyrons presence. I think the show could use this scene to give us a first strong hint towards the possibility of Tyron being one of the three dragon riders and the son of Aerys Targaryen with Joanna Lannister.

      I know this theory is heavily debated, but I really like the idea that the three dragon riders (Dany, Jon Stark, and Tyron Lannister) that fight off the White Walkers are all Targaryan, but at the same time they also represent the houses Stark and Lannister, therefore nicely rounding up the conflict that started of with Roberts rebellion.

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    100. Is there a reason people assume the episode titles are fake? I mean they might not be right but was it confirmed somewhere. If the Home title was revealed before this Dany clip was released it would make it more likely to me they were real, which was released first?

      There was depate about snow earlier, in my opinion that was a season 5 problem and there is not much that can be done to fix it. I know fake snow is expencive but hopefully there could be more in future seasons since there will be more snow come winter. The lack of it hurt Stannis’s storyline as well so it will be worrysome if more snow is just impossible to arrange.

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    101. Green Chili,

      She either wants to prove something or she’s staring the fire herself, as mentioned by others before.

      Mihnea,

      I think one of the leaked info from spain suggested that they were having

      a celebration there, maybe a wedding.

      . That’s why they had many khals with their khalasars there. We’ll need a confirmation though.

      dragonbringer,

      I think Barristan’s arc was given to Tyrion, not Dany. I still believe that in the books she’ll arrive in Meereen with her new dothraki army to save the city – and in the show as well.

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    102. Redxgod,

      Must have been those 2 scenes with Needle that gave you that idea, right?
      Interesting, though it would require a nearly impossible degree of loyalty to the Many-Faced God.

      Similarly, what if someone hired the Faceless Men to kill the Night’s King, whether the request was placed by his title or his true name (e.g. Brandon Stark)?

      Assuming it is possible, what would the House of Black & White demand as payment?
      The Seven Kingdoms?

      [this nerdgasm was particularly hard]

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    103. I really want this vision from THOTU (below) to happen this season since the Dosh Khaleen will be there and seem like they’ll play an important part. We know the dothraki might bow to her at some point. And unlike many, I really like the prophecies, so I hope we have this moment along with a new propecy made by them for Dany. Perhaps the Stallion Who Mounts the World prophecy will be mentioned again?

      a line of naked crones emerging from a lake, kneeling before Daenerys beneath the Mother of Mountains

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    104. Pounce:
      OT : Does anyone here have visited the “Rant and rave without repercussions” thread on westeros.org ? Oh boy…this is something else. It’s a very entertaining read if you laugh at depressed people, who can’t enjoy the show anymore because their favorite book series was “ruined” by the double demons known as D&D.

      I will never understand how people can bring themselves to invest so much time into something they dislike. Hundreds of pages of bitching! These masochists can’t have a life of their own.

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    105. Kargaryen,

      It looks like he has taken barristan but in reality he is taking over dany’s ..

      The photo of him and varys on the street helping the women similar to dany helping the infected people and poor..
      Iam speaking about dany’s interactions with the plague victims how she went and helped them

      City under siege and interactions with priest is similar to what dany does with green grace …

      Talks with missandei

      If only dany had got these moments in last two season it would have made her more human..

      I just hope they don’t make that tyrion solving the problems in meereen because those cannot be undone by anyone other dany and after following the filming I guess they are also going for that only ..

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    106. Kargaryen,

      I don’t think we will be getting the lake and mother of mountains but definitely they are going to bow down and I guess we have already saw the glimpse of it in the promo video about cameramen where dothraki are gathered at night

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    107. El-Bobbie,

      We still have nothing about the Khal who’s mocking her in the Targaryen teaser though. He’s certainly going to be barbecued. The actor who says those lines in dothraki is Andrei Claude. We’ve seen all other dohtraki dudes in costume so far except him.

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    108. Kargaryen,

      The Dothraki follow only the strong (Jorah Mormont)

      The Stallion Who Mounts The World prophecy is fulfilled in Drogon, so it will most probably be the turning point for Daenerys’ condition in Vaes Dothrak.
      Whether mentioned first by her or -even more likely- the Dosh Khaleen

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    109. Thomas Sandstone,

      How so? These are the sort of clips that distributors issue a couple of weeks befor shows or films hit the market. There is a narrow window for doiing this (nobody was interested a week ago and nobody will be interested in 2 weeks), so it hardly is too surprising to get them out all at once.

      The primary point is that Jane & Joe HBO-Subscriber know that the show returns in 2 weeks. That is close enough to remember AND adequate time to set the DVR to “record.”

      PS: Are you related to Joseph Shale?

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    110. The Sybian,

      Yup I believe Drogon is TSWMTW. But I want it to be mentioned because I really liked the scene when Dany eats the stallion’s heart. It will be good to see the prophecy being completed fulfilled.

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    111. Dragonmcmx:
      Is it just me, or does the soundtrack not sound nearly as good as that of previous seasons?

      We’ve heard 2 1/2 minutes worth. Actually sounds like this might be his best work.

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    112. 12 days plus some hours. It will be the middle of night for me when it premieres but I think I’m going to sneak downstairs and watch some TV. This looks amazing – all of it. And as always, I love the music, the scenery, the acting…. Oh man, what a great show!

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    113. Wimsey:
      Thomas Sandstone,

      How so?These are the sort of clips that distributors issue a couple of weeks befor shows or films hit the market.There is a narrow window for doiing this (nobody was interested a week ago and nobody will be interested in 2 weeks), so it hardly is too surprising to get them out all at once.

      The primary point is that Jane & Joe HBO-Subscriber know that the show returns in 2 weeks.That is close enough to remember AND adequate time to set the DVR to “record.”

      PS: Are you related to Joseph Shale?

      Less than 2 weeks.

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    114. Inazea,

      Fantasy fandoms always have a “fundamentalist” corp. Like religious fundamentalists, they can recite chapter and verse, but they usually have zero idea what it means: just as theology is lost on religious fundamentalists, story is lost on the fandom fundamentalists.

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    115. Some logic…i think. 🙂
      If Jon picture from Saintfield is legit the problem is how Jon arrive to wear Stark colours.
      From both books and show we know that Jon is a guy with good sense. Even he wanted to receive Stark name, in no case would wear house Stark colours from its own initiative. Is not like…ok, i was dead, now i’m alive, so fuck the black (that’s ok) an put some Stark sigil on me. So i think that consent, that recognition, is from Sansa (queen in the north)/northern lords/Robb (maybe Stannis) will via Mormonts/Bran/Howland Reed/whatever.
      From what we know for now, Jon likely will meet with Sansa before the battle of episode 9.
      Sorry for my bad english.

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    116. The most interesting story arc of S6 for me is Bran. What does he know? What can he do? How powerful is he? Will he be able to directly effect the battles ahead and help Sansa/Jon?

      Interesting times.

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    117. The Sybian,

      Kargaryen,

      The vision you mentioned had them bowing to dany right and also remember the terror of dosh khalleens when they saw dany after she ate the heart of horse ..and then there is bell in the hairs fierce as storm and all other things

      dany is the one who is going to unite the khalasar and who will be leading them and she will also have the control of drogon..if drogon is the stallion what happens to the one who is having control over him…

      So its dany I believe

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    118. Wimsey,

      With the closest thing to a Jesus figure currently/temporarily lying dead on a table in Castle Black, they may have to settle for a Leper Messiah (Mormont).

      Can the White Walkers contract greyscale? 🙂

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    119. Jack Bauer 24,

      HBO is still a subscription service. They’ve made the trailer only available through their subscription service(s). I can see it through my Xfinity HBO On Demand subscription for my tv, for which I pay monthly. I don’t blame them for removing it from the free spots like YouTube.

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    120. why all of sudden they change the pronounciation of ” khaleesi”? its more like khalesi this time around..idk why but its bothering me.

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    121. selena:
      Watching waiting,

      naah, not pregnant.. Emilla just has a “real” body..hips and tits and rounded shoulders that show every ounce..plus she is on the short side and that costume doesnt do her any favors

      Yeah. She dropped a noticeable amount of weight in S4, (possibly for Terminator filming?) and took awhile to gain it back. Looks like she’s back to her normal figure now. 🙂

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    122. So I was looking what makingofgameofthrones was up to and in one new article they are citing DeObia Oparei talking about Dorne: “It’s going down in Dorne in Season 6. […] There’s gonna be blood.”

      So there we go. Snakes on a spear?

      Also for those who were wondering about Sansa’s development in S6, here’s a quote from Sophie: “[Sansa]’s taking those skills that she soaked up from Littlefinger, Cersei and Margaery, and she’s finally putting them to use.” Sounds good to me!

      http://www.makinggameofthrones.com/production-diary/7-reasons-excited-about-season-6

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    123. raemontargeryen,

      I seem to recall remembering an article on the GoT languages where it was mentioned that the pronouciation of khaleesi stressed the wrong syllable or something like that, but may be misremembering

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    124. Mihnea:
      Wylie,

      Doran won’t kill his nieces.
      Ellaria might die.

      But the Sand Snakes won’t die this season, at least not at Dorans orders.

      Agreed. Ellaria’s head may have to take a long vacation from her body, as Doran very clearly told her she wouldn’t be given a third chance and the Crown probably needs someone to be punished. But the Sand Snakes don’t need to die too, however much some fans may hate them.

      My thoughts? I can’t hate them, because I barely know them yet. Of course that means I can’t like them that much either. Hopefully season six fixes that.

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    125. The Sybian,

      yeah you are right

      probably how the female and male way of pronouncing it is different cuz irri and dorreah always use “khaleesi” as how jorah did it.

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    126. Kargaryen,

      That’s the thing though she reverses gender not only in this but also in AAr and TPTWp ..
      No one looked for the girl

      Its not a coincidence that all three speaks about ancient prophecy and about a promised Prince( note even in dothraki not a khal was promised but a Prince ) ..
      And i think the show is going easy and just combine all three and just call her as the one who was promised ( note how they have taken the gender out)

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    127. Wylie: Geez! Lighten up. It was just a wordplay on “Snakes on a plane”.

      Sorry everyone. I may have overreacted there. Feeling a bit hypersensitive today. As you were! 🙂

      Redxgod: I would be great to eventually see Sansa vs. Dany in season 8/9.

      Ermahgerd! What are you doing in my head? 🙂 Yes, I admit that I also have been toying around with that idea. IF the Wall breaks, I assume northern people will have to migrate south, maybe even the same time Daeny’s army is moving north, so they could meet each other in the Riverlands. It would be a very interesting meeting IMO, because I think both women have had similar experiences and both should be very protective of their people. But then Sansa has had enough of bullies and Daeny may still think Westeros is her birthright. So yeah, would surely make for interesting dialogue…

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    128. Redxgod,

      I know right!
      ahahahh!!! what rather excite me the most if

      he and bloodraven was truly the one responsible for the revival as per spoiler.. if it was true

      then damn!! shit!!
      We totally “have no idea what’s going to happen”.
      They said he’s rather powerful this season so I’m not thinking its impossible. Besides…
      This is the song of ice and fire if Dany was reborn through the ashes (fire)… then a beautiful parallel would be for

      Jon to be revived through northern magic(ice)

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    129. darkdadi,

      I do agree that Dany is the fire. But I believe Sansa/Bran is the ice part.
      With Jon being the only one that is both Ice & Fire once R+L=J is confirmed.

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    130. Redxgod,

      hehehe.. might be.. any stark would do… but still excited to see how it would play out

      just my own speculation, from the house of undying vision of dany, the one with a guy and lady (the guy seems to be rhaegar and the lady hmmm…) where he name the baby aegon, for his will be the song of ice and fire.. something, I kind of forgot the exact lines but, yeah, maybe if rhaegar did leave Im thinking that jon’s name was supposed to be aegon and lyanna, if she was truly the lady decided to name him jon to protect him otherwise, or was it ned who named him?

      Im not covering this with spoiler tags because this is just pure speculation.

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    131. Deesensfan:
      Mihnea,

      Ah okay. That’s wack!!!!!
      I just don’t understand why people invest so much time in something they don’t like. That’s crazy!

      They think they’re ASOIAF’s Kingsguard and that D&D are traitors to the Realm.

      Literary adaptations have always been slated by their book counterpart purists. Like all fundamentalists, they can only see the written word in one way.

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    132. Arthur: Dude, Emilia has a very thick body build, not fat, she’s curvy in a good sexy way and always has been. She looks the same to me.

      Emilia has an unusual body type, I sometimes think she has ‘chubbed’ up but the next day she will be in a swimsuit and , wow!,no she has not put on any weight. I think its because she is petite and maybe has large bones , optical.

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    133. Valaquen,

      That’s messed up.
      But what I find hard to understand is, if you don’t like the show anymore, stop watching, instead of bitching about it online like a loser with no life.

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    134. Valaquen,

      D&D are Jaime. They must stab the Mad King in the back(Change AFFC/ADWD story) for the good of the realm…

      D&D:”Words are winds and nuncle, that’s all he kept saying…. I cut his throat to make sure that will not happen.”

      EDIT: Someone should do that with the entire Jaime bath scene LOL.

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    135. Kargaryen,

      dragonbringer,

      http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Stallion_who_mounts_the_world

      Just putting the link here for instant reference.
      One could deduce -especially from the last sentence- that the prophecy abstractly references both animal (in this case, dragon) and rider (regardless of gender) as a single entity.
      It ‘s the only thing that makes narrative sense to me, unless the prophecy was mentioned solely for lore-decorating purposes.

      For the record, I ‘ve always considered
      – Daenerys to be Azor Ahai Come Again
      – Jon Snow to be The Prince That Was Promised [“Promise me, Ned”]
      – Bran Stark to be another Last Hero
      but, of course, their ancient counterparts’ characteristics may be meddled for this newest portion of the saga

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    136. Still no Pity for Cers but Lena should have had many Emmy’s she is just great and bringing the stories character to life and that not popularity or political flavor of the day should be why the award is given, wonderful actress.

      Dany not really doing much till E3 or 4 ( s1-e3 Cripples and bastards, s2-e4Garden of bones, s3-e4 And now his watch has ended, s4-e3 Breaker of chains, s5-e4 Sons of the Harpy) is not a shock if you look back over all the TV adaption of the show it. She is a more mid-season and E9 player.

      Im cautiously optimistic about Sansa as we were teased she would be Darth Sansa before and look what happened with that Hype.

      S6-E1 title Really has me looking forward to at least 2 possibly three Red Priestess, Mels soul search and the introduction of the new one.

      But your favorite Dwarf and Mine looks to be on fast track to yet more awards, and maybe fly in to them on a dragon.

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    137. BunBunStark,

      Hee yeah – Im almost glad Im on medical leave. Means I’ve got lots of time to watch all of these clips and read all of the discussions without being distracted by things I gotta do! Also keeps me fom being bored out of my mind!

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    138. darkdadi,

      Hate to say it but I told ya so. Well okay not you personally 🙂 Way back on the board. Bran has been seeking the 3 eyed raven and found him, now been training for so long, all to help with saving the kingdom right? He is a Stark and Jon’s brother and he’s figuring more into the story than ever now. If it’s building up to Dany/Tyrion-Jon/Bran end game like many thought, and Dany went through fire rebirth, stands to reason Jon might be rezzed-by ice and then the two either work together to save Westeros or fight against (a song and a dance can be euphemisms for war) one another. (Jon has more of the north in him than any of his siblings.) And that promo poster with the raven claw shaped blood on his eye…

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    139. I’ll be pretty pissed off if the big Mel twist in episode 1 is glamouring. But EW said that its a twist that everyone wont see coming, including us with all of our speculation.

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    140. YgiTTe,

      that’s what I said in this comment, till Redxgod convince me that it could be other stark as well. But I really have a strong feeling jon was the ice part that’s why I believe that the spoiler about bran would be viable if jon was indeed the ice part

      darkdadi: darkdadi
      April 12, 2016 at 9:41 am

      Redxgod,

      I know right!
      ahahahh!!! what rather excite me the most if

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    141. Maggie,

      There is no such thing as ‘normal’ when it comes to grieving in general – I suspect thats even more so when you are grieving for your daughter. I didn’t think it odd in the least – she was remembering her own mother’s death, and now she’s thinking of her daughters. That being said, your idea of Qyburn bringing her back to life made me laugh.

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    142. Connor,

      Which made me hype even more for that specific bran spoiler

      some debunk the spoiler because it would seem impossible for bran and bloodraven to be there all of the sudden but I think they might appear there through vision while reviving jon. the book gave hints that jon might warg in his death, though the show i think wouldnt focus on jon’s ability as a warg and might just use his warging ability to temporarily cheat death. I think the revival process won’t be all magical in a sense that they do certain spell technique but it would just be plain bran telling jon to return to his body

      After all, the majority of us seems to have been looking to the lord of light for jon’s revival thus when it failed the twisted shock was intense.

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    143. Connor:
      I’ll be pretty pissed off if the big Mel twist in episode 1 is glamouring. But EW said that its a twist that everyone wont see coming, including us with all of our speculation.

      I think gamouring is pretty lame, so I hope it’s something different. Maybe she fails to bring him back and he’s resurrected via the old goods.

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    144. Redxgod:
      darkdadi,

      I do agree that Dany is the fire. But I believe Sansa/Bran is the ice part.
      With Jon being the only one that is both Ice & Fire once R+L=J is confirmed.

      Because god forbid Jon wasn’ the perfect ASOIAF singularity and was anything less than the living cliche of a fantasy hero. To hell with complexity.

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    145. Flayed Potatoes: I think gamouring is pretty lame, so I hope it’s something different. Maybe she fails to bring him back and he’s resurrected via the old goods.

      Same here!

      darkdadi:
      Connor,

      Which made me hype even more for that specific bran spoiler

      I hope it’s true, and he will be brought back via the Old Gods.

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    146. raemontargeryen,
      From an article and the guy who created the Dothraki language:

      Bad news, Game of Thrones fans: You are mispronouncing Daenerys’s honorific, Khaleesi. But don’t feel bad. On the HBO show, her smitten man-servant Jorah has been saying it incorrectly as well; the more accurate pronunciation should be “KHAH-lay-see,” not “ka-LEE-see.” That’s according to David J. Peterson, the language creator responsible for all of the Dothraki and Valyrian dialogue spoken on the show,

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    147. The Sybian,

      In my opinion, TSWMTW Reffers to Dany/Drogon anyways. If its Dany, she’d need Drogon to unite the khalasars. If it’s Drogon, he’d need a human to take control over him, in this case, Dany.

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    148. Kosten,

      Moreso the show Jon than the book Jon … for a more general audience the hero is made more well heroic as that’s the way we like our heroes. Example: he decides to face Mance after the battle as opposed to essentially given a choice to do that or freeze in the ice cells by Alliser Thorne (where Jon does it as he doesn’t see a way out). Don’t get me wrong, I appreciate the reasons why the choice was made … it is better TV, more dramatic, more thematic, and there’s nothing wrong with that.

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    149. So after a good nights sleep, I came up with the following.

      Reviews are mentioning “even hardcore fans will not be able to predict the twists and turns included in the premier”. Nonsense, I have faith in this Fandom and I believe we can do just that.

      Here are mine:

      Why does Little Finger look so terrified – he turns around and comes face-to-face with Brienne who is in the process of rescuing Sansa & Theon – I’m going even further by saying Sansa tells Brienne to kill him for the shit he put her through. I think his plot line in the show is over.

      I think the shock, and uncomfortable feeling premier viewers are talking about with regards to Castle Black is Mellisander reveals her “true self” – (book readers should know what I’m talking about). That’s what is happening when we see her disrobing in the trailer.

      Jon is fully brought back to life by Mellisander in some way by the end of episode 2 and is in each and every scene where we see Sansa and Davos in the trailers.

      Sansa sends Brienne to River Run – probably following the plot line for LS.

      These are my predictions and I’m sticking with them.

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    150. Rhaegarys Dalnaeros:
      Some logic…i think.
      If Jon picture from Saintfield is legit the problem is how Jon arrive to wear Stark colours.
      From both books and show we know that Jon is a guy with good sense. Even he wanted to receive Stark name, in no case would wear house Stark colours from its own initiative.Is not like…ok, i was dead, now i’m alive, so fuck the black (that’s ok) an put some Stark sigil on me. So i think that consent, that recognition, is from Sansa (queen in the north)/northern lords/Robb (maybe Stannis) will via Mormonts/Bran/Howland Reed/whatever.
      From what we know for now, Jon likely will meet with Sansa before the battle of episode 9.
      Sorry for my bad english.

      Sansa as Queen in the North could make him a Stark,

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    151. Pounce:
      OT : Does anyone here have visited the “Rant and rave without repercussions” thread on westeros.org ? Oh boy…this is something else. It’s a very entertaining read if you laugh at depressed people, who can’t enjoy the show anymore because their favorite book series was “ruined” by the double demons known as D&D.

      That site does not exist for me anymore. I can’t even see it in my browser because I put it on my ban list.

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    152. RJ:
      Deesensfan,

      It’s just the one thread that has pages and pages of why the show is so bad (apparently)

      but yeah, other than that the site is pretty good.

      The whole section dedicated to show is filled with hatred, not just rant and rave. I’ve never been to rant and rave and yet I had more than enough experience with book purists. Annara Snow calling me a rape apologist was the final straw. I was surprised when I saw, that she was once a member of this site.

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    153. Nymeria Warrior Queen,

      I loved Jennifer Ehle in the 1995 series, but yes! Lena has what it takes to be a great Elizabeth Bennett: beauty, intelligence, wit, being independent, even black hair, she didn’t need a wig. I wish I could have seen that! I know, there’s no mention of the hair colour, but traditionally Elizabeth is a brunette and Jane a blonde.

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    154. Lord Parramandas,

      Thats terrible.

      that website needs to be shut down – and their people need to be handled.

      there are some f&&&ed up people out there – I have seen blatant insults sent to BCog on Twitter calling him a garbage human and rape lover and stuff because of certain story lines not in the books. I am sure these people visit that website.

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    155. That is really disgusting behaviour 🙁 but have you seen the comments in Los Siete Reinos?? They ooze a surprising tremendous amount of venom…

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    156. Darkrobin,

      Bad news, Game of Thrones fans: You are mispronouncing Daenerys’s honorific, Khaleesi. But don’t feel bad. On the HBO show, her smitten man-servant Jorah has been saying it incorrectly as well; the more accurate pronunciation should be “KHAH-lay-see,” not “ka-LEE-see.” That’s according to David J. Peterson, the language creator responsible for all of the Dothraki and Valyrian dialogue spoken on the show,

      Even in our age of talking heads on the telly and uniform pronunciations, there are regional differences to how words are enunciated, let alone pronounced.

      One could well imagine that Jorah learned some regional dialect of Dothraki where his pronunciation is “correct”. Same goes, by the same logic, to any Dothraki character.

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    157. Dame of Mercia: Jennifer Ehle (who would likely have been Caitlyn if she hadn’t had a young family that she didn’t want to spend time away from in the early days of GoT) is still the definitive Elizabeth Bennett for me – admittedly that’s 1995 so 21 years ago.

      For me, Elizabeth Garvey is the definite Elizabeth Bennett (from the 6 hour BBC mini-series circa 1980), as is that adaptation of Pride & Prejudice.

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    158. Pigeon,

      I don’t know about all that…but Deny has put on a little weight. Last year she looked very lean, like she was doing P90x, or something. It’s just an observation; I make no value judgement on her looks.

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    159. Anon:
      Pigeon,

      I don’t know about all that…but Deny has put on a little weight.Last year she looked very lean, like she was doing P90x, or something. It’s just an observation; I make no value judgement on her looks.

      Oh I know, Anon, I was being silly because there’s been so much speculation everytime someone’s costume sits funny, etc. Emilia is really tiny, actually, so 5 pounds would probably show on her whereas on a tall bigger girl like me you’d never notice! I think she’s always stunning. 🙂

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    160. I like this new Khal (and the actor), the way he speak Dothraki and how his Dothraki sounds.

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    161. Luka Nieto: Agreed. Ellaria’s head may have to take a long vacation from her body, as Doran very clearly told her she wouldn’t be given a third chance and the Crown probably needs someone to be punished. But the Sand Snakes don’t need to die too, however much some fans may hate them.

      My thoughts? I can’t hate them, because I barely know them yet. Of course that means I can’t like them that much either. Hopefully season six fixes that.

      I’m of the belief that Doran ordered the killing of Myrcella. Earlier in the season he tells Ellaria “We don’t maim little girls in Dorne.” Notice he doesn’t say that they don’t kill little girls. If you rewatch the scene on the dock in S5E10, after Jamie says goodbye to Doran, Doran turns and nods towards Ellaria. Then she moves forward and kisses Myrcella. I know people will say “but his son is on the ship with them …”. Yes, but it is a Martell ship.

      Anyway, we’ll know for sure soon enough.

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    162. Wall Builder,

      The problem is not that Jaime is in command of the ship (although many here seem to assume that) but what might happen to his son in closed quarters.

      As for Doran’s nod, I think that it was: “Behave!”

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    163. Wall Builder: I’m of the belief that Doran ordered the killing of Myrcella. Earlier in the season he tells Ellaria “We don’t maim little girls in Dorne.” Notice he doesn’t say that they don’t kill little girls. If you rewatch the scene on the dock in S5E10, after Jamie says goodbye to Doran, Doran turns and nods towards Ellaria. Then she moves forward and kisses Myrcella

      I agree with you, something is ‘off’ in that dynamic. Doran has cautioned those who would underestimate him not to fall into that trap. He’s explained that family Martell are team players, ‘the snake in the grass,’ referring to himself as the grass which shields the snake and from which the snake launches itself at the opportune moment to strike. With this sly synergy in mind, we may question whether the melodramatic displays of Martell family division were staged for the benefit of the intended victim/s, lulling such into a false sense of complacency.

      Is it a tip-off that the most reputedly ‘boring’ character in Dorne is played by the most interesting actor..? Doran wants people to think he’s innocuous — as innocuous as grass. While he may be wheelchair-bound, however, his mind is agile. There lurks much unseen beneath the grass. So, perhaps we shouldn’t be fooled by his decorous gestures and elegant magnanimity. Unpacking this snake-grass metaphor further, it’s clear that Doran is being disingenuous calling himself ‘grass’; he’s every bit as much a snake as the rest. After all, snakes don’t need legs in order to be deadly!

      Taken more skeptically therefore, his words regarding ‘no third chances’ take on a more sinister aspect. Technically, the Lannisters have already exhausted their quota: On the first occasion, he lost his sister and her children to them, and there was no justice. On the second occasion of his dealings with them, his brother, and there was still no justice. Justice/retribution after all was what Oberyn was after in Kings Landing. Who’s to say Doran had not sent his ‘Viper’ as his proxy to secure just that? It’s worth remembering that when Tyrion gets a bit cocky, Oberyn puts him in his place saying ‘the Lannisters aren’t the only ones who pay their debts!’ It’s highly likely therefore that this is a debt that Doran has not forgiven, only pretends that he has, and that he’s decided to take ‘justice’ into his own hands now, especially considering that the Lannisters are in a weakened position in ‘the game.’

      In the books, he stations his own daughter with a cyvasse board in a room in which she’s been imprisoned by him, as a means towards teaching her the value of planning out ones political moves several moves in advance, before striking. Doran plays the long game. To him, Myrcella is a piece in the game — and the daughter of his enemy — no more than that. The kiss she receives following a nod from him is poisoned.

      And, technically Myrcella didn’t die in Dorne (dying aboard a ship), so I guess they don’t kill children in Dorne (just offshore)! Very sneaky those Dornish…

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