Game of Thrones at the 2014 Primetime Emmy Awards

Emmys

It’s that time of year again, when Game of Thrones cast members get dolled up in their best and head to Los Angeles to represent the show at the Emmy Awards.

Game of Thrones has already won four Emmys so far this year, at the Creative Arts ceremony held on August 16th, taking home awards for costuming, art direction, special and visual effects, and prosthetic makeup.

Tonight, they’ll be competing in five major categories:

Outstanding Drama Series, the award goes to “Breaking Bad”

Outstanding Supporting Actor in a Drama Series – Peter Dinklage, the award goes to Aaron Paul of “Breaking Bad”

Outstanding Supporting Actress in a Drama Series – Lena Headey, the award goes to Anna Gunn of “Breaking Bad”

Outstanding Writing in a Drama Series – “The Children,” by David Benioff and D.B. Weiss, the award goes to “Breaking Bad” for the episode “Ozymandias,” written by Moira Walley-Beckett.

Outstanding Directing for a Drama Series- “The Watchers on the Wall,” directed by Neil Marshall, the award goes to Cary Joji Fukunaga, for “True Detective”

Join us tonight as we take in the red carpet looks (photos below!) and cheer on Game of Thrones at the Emmys.

Update: The Emmys have now concluded. Unfortunately, Game of Thrones didn’t pick up any more awards tonight, but the show has won four Emmys total this year. Congratulations to Game of Thrones on the wins and on racking up such a huge amount of nominations this year!


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Peter Dinklage, pre-ceremony with fellow nominee Josh Charles
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Susan Miller, Editor in Chief of WatchersOnTheWall.com

170 Comments

  1. For those of us on the other side of the planet who struggle with time zones, how long until the awards actually start/end?

    Also looks like confirmation to me of a bearded Tyrion on the show.

  2. The awards started fifteen minutes ago. They haven’t announced any GOT categories yet. They usually last a few hours long. We’ll update the post with wins/losses as it goes.

  3. I doubt GoT will pick up any of the five awards its up for tonight, and most seem to agree with me. However, D&D’s confidence that each season of GoT will get progressively better has assuaged my fears a little that this was GoT’s last big chance to win major Emmys–I think we’ll eventually get there, maybe next year. Lena Headey’s nom, for instance, could be prep for a more likely win next year, when she should have a pretty juicy role.

  4. I’m really excited but I expect them all to be snubbed yet again.

    If there was EVER a season that Dinklage deserved to win, though, it’s Season 4.

    It was sort of politics that even got him nominated in Season 3: he was good with what material he was given, but Tyrion simply isn’t in the first half of book 3 that much – neither is Cersei, really. Then the action shifts to them later.

  5. Where are Sophie and Maisie?! Really? They invited Sibel Kikelli and not the girls?! What kind of nonsense is that?! It better be because they have scenes to shoot (terrible planning then) and not because they prefer other people there ;(

  6. Doesnt look too good so far. Same people as last year (dreyfus, parsons) won again. If that’s anything to go by Breaking Bad will just sweep it. Peter is the only one with a chance i’d say.

  7. Barry,

    Yeah– the Emmys have been really stagnant- and with Breaking Bad making it’s last showing, I’d say they’re almost a lock (though True Detective might give them a run).

    Peter has an OK shot, and I’ll give Neil Marshall a shot for Watchers… otherwise I think we’re a little outgunned.

  8. Here’s hoping for Dinklage/Lena/Marshall winning. I don’t think the show is going to nab best drama, but if the Emmys surprise me I won’t complain.

  9. OMG; Weird Al Yankovic is doing his own fan-covers of major TV show theme songs live as big song and dance numbers – and one of the lyrics is urging George to “type fast!” — so they actually have Seth Myers, in costume as Joffrey, literally handing a typewriter to George RR Martin who is sitting in the audience!

  10. Martin has to force a smile on his face while they sing about him writing faster, knowing that he’s totally doomed.

  11. If George is not motivated to type faster now I don’t know what more can be done lol. That was funny stuff by Weird Al

  12. I’m trolling that idiot right now. He’s NOT funny on “@midnight”, a show with a great guests. It isn’t “funny” when he begs people at the end of Colbert, “please don’t change the channel! My show is coming on! Please don’t go to bed!”

    He *really* isn’t funny, it wouldn’t be such a widespread criticism if it wasn’t true.

  13. Myeah thought it would be Breaking Bad. Fair enough. The Emmys at least don’t disappoint in being disappointing….

  14. Yeah that makes sense… Just hand out the rest as well to them already.
    If that speech didnt win?! Come on. Next year will not have the same quality material will be really really tough. This was the one he had to win.

  15. The Imp has played his trick, and he can only play it once. And it wasn’t good enough.

    Paul is a deserving winner, though (and has the benefit of writing with far more nuance).

  16. Ah real unlucky for Peter, but I’m not surprised. There’s no Aaron Paul next year though, so hipefully he’ll stand a better chance then.

  17. I have a feeling Lena Headey will win next year. Not tonight though.

    Peter had to go up against Aaron Paul’s performance in the Confessions episode (at least, I’d be surprised if that’s not the one they submitted). As much as we’d love for Peter to win, it’s hard to say Paul isn’t deserving.

  18. Jessie didn’t do shit in the final season. This means Breaking Bad will win everything, which is okay. Game Of Thrones should have won for it’s first season. Probably nevet will now.

  19. Tyrion Pimpslap:
    Jessie didn’t do shit in the final season. This means Breaking Bad will win everything, which is okay. Game Of Thrones should have won for it’s first season. Probably nevet will now.

    He had a couple of good scenes, and my understanding is the vote is based on a single episode, not the whole season. But yeah the best overall performers on BB this year were Cranston and Gunn, with Dean Norris having some great moments as well.

    Though it may be possible that some voters picked Paul again without even watching any of the nominated episodes, just using the “it’s Breaking Bad’s year” logic.

  20. Mr.Paul deserves it. He did a great job, it’s a tough year for GoT. Let’s get the rest of the nom

  21. Tyrion Pimpslap:
    Jessie didn’t do shit in the final season. This means Breaking Bad will win everything, which is okay. Game Of Thrones should have won for it’s first season. Probably nevet will now.

    This exactly.

    If it was based on one episode Peter should have won all the more. How can that speech not win?! Aaron Paul didnt do something of that level this season. It’s more likely the Emmy voters are creatures of habit and just gave it to him again. Last year the guy from Boardwalk won though right? didnt see that coming. It will be tough with Peters’ new non KL arch. As said Lena is the best bet for next season based on the material.


    And True Detective ‘stole’ the directing emmy. They were supposed to be in the miniseries category?! The show was great of course but it goes stealing the limelight now.

  22. Game of Thrones is running out of time. I think the time for them winning best drama or individual awards for acting might be over to be honest. This is their last shot this year. Even without Breaking Bad, you have True Detective who will likely be the big winner in the years to come, and they’ll likely reward Mad Men in some way next year with this being their last season.

    This is basically it in my opinion. Season 1-4 is their best hope. Maybe, and I say maybe their final season. But we’ll see. George predicted this, remember after season 1. He said if his time Hollywood taught him anything it’s that they will always nominate the science fiction or fantasy show to placate the fans, but they’ll never have them win.

  23. Hard to disagree with Aaron Paul winning. Emmys have always been more of a long-term achievement award, if they are an achievement award at all, and Paul winning for his work on Breaking Bad is 10,000x better than watching Jim Parsons win again.

  24. Massive Breaking Bad fan – I think it’s better than Game of Thrones, but come on. Jesse’s scenes in the final season weren’t that great. It was kind of a repetition of the range he’d already shown. The writing for his particular scenes wasn’t especially great either. Dinklage deserved that one.

  25. Dave:
    Game of Thrones is running out of time. I think the time for them winning best drama or individual awards for acting might be over to be honest. This is their last shot this year. Even without Breaking Bad, you have True Detective who will likely be the big winner in the years to come, and they’ll likely reward Mad Men in some way next year with this being their last season.

    This is basically it in my opinion. Season 1-4 is their best hope. Maybe, and I say maybe their final season. But we’ll see. George predicted this, remember after season 1. He said if his time Hollywood taught him anything it’s that they will always nominate the science fiction or fantasy show to placate the fans, but they’ll never have them win.

    I don’t think Game of Thrones will ever win, even if it deserves to do so (and I think it is arguable right now but hardly a slam dunk). But that said, it’s most likely opportunity is at the end. The sort of “We have to honor Breaking Bad” kind of thinking — or more relevantly, the Oscar given to Return of the King-kind of thinking is their best bet.

    True Detective is going to be different next year — I think this year is it’s best chance. People loved the beginning better than the end, and I can see whatever they do not quite resonating as well.

  26. The treatment of GOT is reminding me more and more of how the Academy treated Star Wars back in the 70s and 80s. The first was given a nod, and then they were blatantly ignored from then on because they were ‘sci-fi/space fantasy’ and therefore not to be taken seriously. With Star Wars, you can at least overlook it because they were intended as children’s films, but with GOT? You can’t say that lol It’s for adults, but because it is fantasy, it’s not going to be taken as seriously as everything else.

    Ultimately, this is the failing of the Emmys, not of GOT or its cast and crew.

  27. Well, it’s over now. I don’t think Anna Gunn deserved it, tbh, she did even less than Paul in the final season (which was mostly Walt/Hank). It was predictable, but I’m not bitching. Fair enough.
    Now, Cary Fukunaga winning over Marshall is lame.

  28. Jeb,

    I’m fine with that. I really hope True Detective doesn’t win best drama. I liked the show, but felt it was extremely overrated, and wasn’t a fan of the final two episodes.

  29. So now it’s just writing and best drama, right? No way they win drama against BB – I suppose there’s an outside chance at writing, but that seems almost as long a shot.

  30. Alan: I don’t think Game of Thrones will ever win, even if it deserves to do so (and I think it is arguable right now but hardly a slam dunk). But that said, it’s most likely opportunity is at the end. The sort of “We have to honor Breaking Bad” kind of thinking — or more relevantly, the Oscar given to Return of the King-kind of thinking is their best bet.

    True Detective is going to be different next year — I think this year is it’s best chance. People loved the beginning better than the end, and I can see whatever they do not quite resonating as well.

    I wonder about this too. I loved td but I can’t help think it’s lightning in a bottle. It’s a whole different animal for the writer to put out similar quality in a much shorter time period.

  31. Morgoth,

    I felt like that was the one award True Detective deserved. Marshall did a great with his one episode, but Fukunaga directed all of the TD episodes, and did a really phenomenal job.

  32. It’s a bust again. Peter was the one who really deserved it. Neil Marshall could easily have won too. The other 3 arent / werent expected.

    Best Drama seems like an obvious choice for Breaking Bad. True Detective is an outside chance but no way Game of Thrones will win (or any of the others really)

    Well at least they lost to shows i both really enjoyed as well and not to Homeland or something 😉

  33. Tyrion Pimpslap,

    To be honest I kind of want Breaking Bad to win Best Drama, because I think it deserves it, and it is its last hurrah. If Paul and Gunn can win in their categories, then Cranston deserves to too.

    i wish Dinklage and Headey had won instead but it wasn’t to be sadly. Not surprising at all though.

  34. The Dragon Demands,

    I love GoT but I’m sorry, if there’s one Emmy Breaking Bad absolutely without a doubt deserved this year it’s Best Writing. If GoT had won you’d have fans celebrating here, but there’d probably be a lot more people saying Breaking Bad was robbed. “Ozymandias” is still my pick for best episode of TV I’ve ever seen.

  35. A Man Grown:
    The Dragon Demands,

    I love GoT but I’m sorry, if there’s one Emmy Breaking Bad absolutely without a doubt deserved this year it’s Best Writing. If GoT had won you’d have fans celebrating here, but there’d probably be a lot more people saying Breaking Bad was robbed. “Ozymandias” is still my pick for best episode of TV I’ve ever seen.

    Yeah that was well deserved certainly. But it seems they are just handing the awards to BB. Will be interesting to see if McConaughy can beat Cranston?! Probably but TD will split votes a little?!

  36. Morgoth,

    Yeah, Marshall’s work was impressive, but you have to give it up to Fukunaga for that EPIC 10-minute tracking shot. That won him the Emmy by itself- and it should have, IMO.

  37. Barry:
    And True Detective ‘stole’ the directing emmy. They were supposed to be in the miniseries category?!

    No, it wasn’t. It is a drama series. It would have had to apply for a special rules exemption to be in the miniseries category, and it did not do so.

    Morgoth:
    Well, it’s over now. I don’t think Anna Gunn deserved it, tbh, she did even less than Paul in the final season (which was mostly Walt/Hank).

    Gunn’s performance in the final season was amazing. She had “Ozymandias”, the best work she’s done to date, between her scenes with Marie, and her realizing that Walt has killed Hank and then kidnapped Holly.

    Tori Targaryen:
    The treatment of GOT is reminding me more and more of how the Academy treated Star Wars back in the 70s and 80s. The first was given a nod, and then they were blatantly ignored from then on because they were ‘sci-fi/space fantasy’ and therefore not to be taken seriously. With Star Wars, you can at least overlook it because they were intended as children’s films, but with GOT? You can’t say that lol It’s for adults, but because it is fantasy, it’s not going to be taken as seriously as everything else.

    Ultimately, this is the failing of the Emmys, not of GOT or its cast and crew.

    You argument hinges on the idea that GOT is clearly better than those other shows and is only losing because of bias, which is rather dubious. “Breaking Bad” was better than GOT last year, in the eyes of quite a few people, myself included. So was “Mad Men”, among others.

  38. Sean C.,

    I love Breaking Bad also, but I prefer GOT in all fields. Does it mean I think it should win every award? Of course not, but neither do I think it should be blatantly ignored either. It is often awarded a token crumb or two, but those are almost insulting. It’s a common technique for award shows to do with popular shows, so they don’t look completely out of touch.

  39. Sean C.: No, it wasn’t.It is a drama series.It would have had to apply for a special rules exemption to be in the miniseries category, and it did not do so.

    Yes it was. they could have easily entered it there but they chose this.


    Well that settles best series. BB will win. That line up was absolutely insane. Without Harrelson Matthew would have won… but he wouldnt had such an amazing guy to play up against…

  40. RBloodworth,

    It’s very predictable. This is BB’s last year. Of course it was going to clean everything out. At least all of the major nominations.

  41. Breaking Bad totally deserved it. And this makes up for the amazing first two seasons being basically snubbed.

    Game of Thrones SHOULD win best supporting actress next year, assuming they don’t fuck it up.

  42. RBloodworth:
    Morgoth,

    Yeah, Marshall’s work was impressive, but you have to give it up to Fukunaga for that EPIC 10-minute tracking shot.That won him the Emmy by itself- and it should have, IMO.

    I disagree. The 10-minute tracking shot was great, yeah, but Watchers on the Wall was quite a technical challenge to pull. I think Marshall deserved it more.

  43. Tori Targaryen,

    It hasn’t been “blatantly ignored”. It won four Emmys this year. In the creative arts ceremony, sure, but they’re still Emmys. And it gets tons of nominations every year. The Emmys don’t parcel out awards in a strategic manner, so it’s not a token.

    Barry: Yes it was. they could have easily entered it there but they chose this.

    TD is not a miniseries. It’s a drama series. It has regular seasons. If it had wanted to be considered a miniseries, it would have had to apply for a special exemption, like, for instance, “American Horror Story” does every year. They didn’t, because they want to be considered a drama series, which is good, because that’s what it is. An anthology is not a miniseries.

  44. This is becoming way too predictable wow. I’m willing to to bet Breaking Bad will win best drama series. Who wants to bet? Smh

  45. TD is not a miniseries. It’s a drama series. It has regular seasons. If it had wanted to be considered a miniseries, it would have had to apply for a special exemption, like, for instance, “American Horror Story” does every year. They didn’t, because they want to be considered a drama series, which is good, because that’s what it is. An anthology is not a miniseries.

    Disagree. Sure. It’s an anthology. But an anthology’s really just a collection of short stories with an overarching motif. True Detective, likewise, is a collection of miniseries’. Most of the people who worked on the first series will not be returning for the second. It was, in itself, a miniseries.

  46. Breaking Bad won everything it was nominated for: Best Actor, Best Supporting Actor, Best Supporting Actress, Best Episode Writing….and now, Best Series.

    The only things it *didn’t* win which it was nominated for was Best Direction for an episode (which went to True Detective).

    The Good Wife won Best Actress because Breaking Bad wasn’t nominated.

  47. I love love love LOVE Lena, and I can’t see my way to her beating Anna Gunn for her amazing work in Ozymandias, and for me it’s another way to stick it to all the Skyler White haters who get on her for being an “impediment” to Walter White’s “badassery.” And Cranston deserved it too, as does the series and the writing.

    I did think Dinklage was more deserving, though. But he *does* have one, so there is that already.

    I think GoT’s time will come as well, and agree with those who believe it will likely be honored in a ‘Return of the King’ style fashion where it garners an award that acknowledges its scope as a long-running fantasy series that hasn’t been put together on such a scale in history.

    It’s all the love for Modern Family that I don’t get at all. Oh, and Bobby Cannavale winning last year for his hammy performance in Boardwalk Empire. (I would have liked to have seen Tim Van Patten take the directing award for Farewell Daddy Blues, though, and for that matter, it’s a travesty they didn’t recognize Lou Gossett Jr for Guest Actor).

  48. Chriss: Disagree. An anthology is a collection of miniseries’. Most of the people who worked on the first series will not be returning for the second. It was, in itself, a miniseries.

    No, a miniseries, by definition, ends. It’s a one-off product. True Detective is coming back for another season.

    It’s bizarre how people have so thoroughly accepted Ryan Murphy’s transparent bid to make his ongoing series eligible for more awards (and it was an ongoing series at first; he only decided to jettison the original characters/situation when it became clear he’d written himself into a corner) that they accuse drama series that don’t also apply for the exemption to be committing category fraud.

  49. I’m gonna get in trouble, I will. I have… to.. say it.. I can’t.. I won’t…

    Breaking bad is overrated.

    There, I said it. You can all call me a shit who doesn’t no jack about what I’m saying, but in my opinion, Game of Thrones is better.

    Yes Breaking bad is great, but I don’t get the idolisation of it all. It’s certainly not ”the best show ever”. Rant over.

  50. To recap, the four awards that Game of Thrones actually managed to win, at the Creative Arts Emmys, were:

    *Outstanding Art Direction for A Single-Camera Series
    *Outstanding Special and Visual Effects
    *Outstanding Prosthetic Makeup
    *Outstanding Costumes for a Series

    (Michele Clapton was nominated for Costumes in all four past seasons, of which she won for Season 2).

    The series also won a Hugo Award last week at WorldCon – it has won a Hugo Award every year since it began (well, “Season 1” as a whole won for “Best Dramatic Presentation, Long Form”, but then they shifted categories to “Short Form”, individual episodes (probably a – successful – plan to maximize their chances of winning). Subsequently, “Blackwater” won for Season 2, and Season 3’s “The Rains of Castamere” won just last week.

  51. Aarrrghhh!! I really liked Breaking Bad, it’s my favourite show next to GoT. I thought season 4 was amazing, but BB season 5 sucked, the ending was terrible, the pace changes too weird… They really wanted to end the show in that season. Compared to GoT’s Season 4 with so many epic moments, plots and acting, never the less I was kind of expecting this… Emmys and Golden Globes always give accolades to the same dudes. The Old Christine chick, Jim Parsons and the entire modern family crew have an entire room to throw accolades. So does Aaron Paul and Bryan.

  52. No, a miniseries, by definition, ends. It’s a one-off product. True Detective is coming back for another season.

    Agreed. And it ended. The next season will only be linked by a few of the staff and an overarching motif.

  53. Sean C.:
    Tori Targaryen,

    It hasn’t been “blatantly ignored”.It won four Emmys this year.In the creative arts ceremony, sure, but they’re still Emmys.And it gets tons of nominations every year. The Emmys don’t parcel out awards in a strategic manner, so it’s not a token.

    TD is not a miniseries.It’s a drama series.It has regular seasons.If it had wanted to be considered a miniseries, it would have had to apply for a special exemption, like, for instance, “American Horror Story” does every year.They didn’t, because they want to be considered a drama series, which is good, because that’s what it is.An anthology is not a miniseries.

    Right. American Horror Story is exactly why i figured it could be entered as one. It even has only 8 episodes right? And as said by nature it is a series of mini-series with new casts. It did pay off though it might likely have taken it from Neil Marshall?

    I correctly guesssed them all right as the nominees were read out so voters really are creatures of habit. Its a pity Breaking Bad didnt finish last year or we might have won a couple. they will have to step it up next year to get nominated again at all (for the big categories. Only Lena seems a lock)

  54. Congratulatiosn Breaking Bad!

    There will be a day* when Game of Trones is lauded in the same way, but is not today.

    *Please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please?!?

  55. Breaking Bad cleaned up. Well deserved.

    Loved the Weird Al send up of GoT and GRRM (and Samberg’s silly Joff).

    [Obligatory comment] Given the competition this year, it was an honor just to be nominated.

    Prediction for next year: After Sunday’s episode of HBO’s “The Leftovers,” I believe it will be a major contender at next year’s Emmys. The last scene was gut-wrenching.

  56. It’s bizarre how people have so thoroughly accepted Ryan Murphy’s transparent bid to make his ongoing series eligible for more awards (and it was an ongoing series at first; he only decided to jettison the original characters/situation when it became clear he’d written himself into a corner

    Man, I wish he had done that with Glee. Maybe keep Jane Lynch, have Sue Sylvester on a world tour destroying glee clubs everywhere.

  57. HBO has to regret entering True Detective against Breaking Bad instead of as a mini-series. I’d say it lost out on at least 2 awards because of it. The Emmys were once again predictable. Someone tell me why Modern Family keeps winning, please? Breaking Bad at least deserved most of their awards. Jon Hamm better get the career achievement best actor award next year.

  58. I feel bad for the GoT folks who bothered to show up. A boring three hours and they leave empty handed.

  59. Greatjon of Slumber:
    I love love love LOVE Lena, and I can’t see my way to her beating Anna Gunn for her amazing work in Ozymandias, and for me it’s another way to stick it to all the Skyler White haters who get on her for being an “impediment” to Walter White’s “badassery.” And Cranston deserved it too, as does the series and the writing.

    Or at least to Anna Gunn as compensation for having to put up with the jerkwads who hate her character. She’s a pretty good actress, of course, too.

    What don’t you like about Modern Family? Who doesn’t want eight years of Phil-is-dumb-Claire-is-anal-these-guys-are-gay jokes?

    Unrelated to your comment, but I don’t really get the “throw GOT a bone” comments here. They did throw GOT a bone — they are called nominations. Anna Gunn or Aaron Paul shouldn’t lose an Emmy just to “even things out.”

  60. Honestly, Game of Thrones is somewhat overrated by us diehard fans. I think an event like this shows it when it is stacked up against things like Breaking Bad. I love Game of Thrones, but I have zero issue with Breaking Bad beating them. Breaking Bad IS better in almost every field. Acting, and writing especially. Benioff and Weiss are not as good as Gilligan and his team, and not as good as Martin either, but that’s another story and I’ll leave it there.

  61. Alan,

    Aaron Paul wasn’t better than Dinklage this year. And I say that as someone who felt BB deserved to win for everything else.

  62. This was Breaking Bad’s night, plain and simple. It won everything that it was nominated for with the exception of Outstanding Directing in a Drama Series, which went to Cary Fukunaga from True Detective in a race that was locked up as soon as the episode featuring the six-minute long tracking shot aired. When Bryan Cranston is taking down Matthew McConaughey (not that he isn’t deserving – his performance in “Ozymandias” and throughout the series was one for the ages), then nothing else stands a chance. It’s an all-time great series that had what many people thought (including me, I should add) was an all-time great final season. I would have liked to see the wealth spread out a bit more, but I’m not unhappy with these results.

    It’s a disappointing night for Game of Thrones, especially because I do believe that Season 4 was the best overall season of the show. But while I was hoping that Peter Dinklage or Neil Marshall might be able to score a surprise win, they weren’t favored in any race, and this was always the most likely scenario. Lena Headey should have her best shot next year (and win or lose, she remains The Queen of Everything – an indisputable truth that I don’t state often enough).

    I remain optimistic that Game of Thrones will take the big prize at some point before its run ends. It may wind up being a Lord of the Rings-type situation where they award it for the final seasons as a celebration of the series as a whole, but stands a good chance, especially with Breaking Bad over, True Detective a question mark going forward, and Mad Men clearly in its twilight. People love to talk about the anti-fantasy bias in the Academy, but they wouldn’t award it 15-20 nominations every year if there wasn’t a significant amount of support for the show. And even without such validation from the Academy, Game of Thrones remains one of the very best shows on TV, and an amazing accomplishment for everyone involved.

  63. Tom:
    Honestly, Game of Thrones is somewhat overrated by us diehard fans. I think an event like this shows it when it is stacked up against things like Breaking Bad. I love Game of Thrones, but I have zero issue with Breaking Bad beating them. Breaking Bad IS better in almost every field. Acting, and writing especially. Benioff and Weiss are not as good as Gilligan and his team, and not as good as Martin either, but that’s another story and I’ll leave it there.

    I think you’re giving too little credit to Benioff and Weiss.
    Gilligan & co. didn’t have to work with so many characters and locations, adapting the mammoth-sized books and now having to work without source material.
    I do agree that Breaking Bad deserved the awards, though.

  64. I can easily envision Rory McCann roaring “FUCK THE EMMYS” taking a bottle of wine from a servant, punching the dude’s face and leaving the ceremony.

  65. Ragman’s Harbor:
    I’m gonna get in trouble, I will. I have… to.. say it.. I can’t.. I won’t…

    Breaking bad is overrated.

    There, I said it. You can all call me a shit who doesn’t no jack about what I’m saying, but in my opinion, Game of Thrones is better.

    Yes Breaking bad is great, but I don’t get the idolisation of it all. It’s certainly not ”the best show ever”. Rant over.

    I agree. I enjoy GoT more, and Breaking Bad is a great show, but not my #1 (and probably not in my Top 5).

    But that said, it’s still a worthy winner, with great acting, great writing and a great end to the series — something most series simply don’t manage to do.

  66. don’t understand all the butthurt here.

    you love the show, so why do you need a bunch of anonymous (likely) blowhards to justify your love for the show. i understand feeling bad for the actors who didn’t win despite putting in a lot of hard work, but you know, one of my favorite sports quotes applies here, “the other guys get paid too.”

    moreover, some of you act like you are the ones who put in the hard work with all your “we” business. there is no “we” unless your name is in the credits at the end of the show.

  67. Tom,

    Don’t use losing to Breaking Bad as a means to knock D&D. Most people are saying BB deserved to win, so there aren’t many overrating it. The Emmys never recognized BB until it’s fifth season. The same for The Sopranos. The Wire was never even nominated. GOT is doing pretty damn well.

  68. Tyrion Pimpslap:
    Alan,

    Aaron Paul wasn’t better than Dinklage this year. And I say that as someone who felt BB deserved to win for everything else.

    The Emmys have never really been about this year, much like no one is really voting on one episode very often for directing and writing. Yes, it’s a flaw and the Emmys suck — all true — but it’s reality. That’s why I have no issues with it.

  69. Tyrion Pimpslap:
    Tom,

    Don’t use losing to Breaking Bad as a means to knock D&D. Most people are saying BB deserved to win, so there aren’t many overrating it. The Emmys never recognized BB until it’s fifth season. The same for The Sopranos. The Wire was never even nominated. GOT is doing pretty damn well.

    I wasn’t using Breaking Bad to knock Benioff and Weiss. I mentioned them more in reference to the fact that they lost out on best writing to a Breaking Bad episode tonight. That’s why the comparison.

  70. I’m calling it : the season based on the worst books will win more emmys than Season 3 and 4 combined (6) which were based on by far the strongest book of the series.

    Oh the irony !

  71. meanwhile, i got a little teary during in memoriam, hollywood lost some ridiculous talent this year.

    the robin williams tribute was touching.

  72. Lucius the Tico:
    I can easily envision Rory McCann roaring “FUCK THE EMMYS” taking a bottle of wine from a servant, punching the dude’s face and leaving the ceremony.

    Before leaving the ceremony, the Hound would have grabbed McConaughey’s wife, slung her over his shoulder and stomped up the stairs and out the door. Isn’t she a sand snake? She would have fetched a fine ransom from Dorne.

  73. Tom:
    Honestly, Game of Thrones is somewhat overrated by us diehard fans. I think an event like this shows it when it is stacked up against things like Breaking Bad. I love Game of Thrones, but I have zero issue with Breaking Bad beating them. Breaking Bad IS better in almost every field. Acting, and writing especially. Benioff and Weiss are not as good as Gilligan and his team, and not as good as Martin either, but that’s another story and I’ll leave it there.

    I think GoT’s acting is as good as Breaking Bad. GoT’s cast is more diffuse, but the top actors shine just as bright as Cranston & Co and the lesser actors are generally better than BB’s supporting crew. There’s just less of the latter.

    The direction and writing is not as artistic as BB, but a large function of that is simply scope, I think. Gilligan had one story to tell; D&D have about seven.

    I don’t think D&D are as good storytellers as Martin is, and I’m not sure they are as good as Gilligan. But Gilligan’s difficulty level is much, much lower, and even they made some missteps. The first half of Season 5, for example, was pretty pointless and featured some characters making random choices. In other words, I think it is tough to be conclusive.

  74. Can somebody Tweet The HBO staff and let them know Boobs don’t always win everything!

    Anyway, those that are complaining that GoT does not have a chance next year because the rest of the books don’t compare to the first three ASOIAF series. Well, thank god it’s a TV show and not a book. I have faith in the showrunners making it a compelling TV season

  75. As I suspected, Breaking Bad cleaned up on the awards. It’s a really good show, it was the last season, and that just tends to be how it goes.

    I don’t tend to be much of an analyzing clothes person, but…

    Lena looked gorgeous. I love how funky she usually is, but for an occasion like this I think elegant is the best way to go, and she certainly went that way.
    I don’t tend to like Natalie’s choices, but have to say I don’t think I’ve ever seen so good.
    Rose seems to usually have a good sense of what will look good, and tonight was no exception.

    Kit…well, in hopes of avoiding a barrage of “Kit can do no wrong” retorts, I’ll just make a general comment, and, of course, this is only my opinion: Men with their hair in a bun is not a good look.
    As far as NCW goes, what can I say? Yes, he’s a good looking man, but in that tux? Daaaaamn. Holy shit. Wowza.

    And that’s all for my extraordinarily insightful comments. 🙂

  76. I’m devastated. This is not good for GoT. Where do they go from here? GoT has become wildly popular and probably the biggest show on TV. What happens now?

  77. Ugh, I wish they would have won at least one award tonight. I think they have a great chance next year, though, especially Lena.

    Natalie Dormer is an actual goddess, I don’t understand how she is real.

  78. Tyrion Pimpslap,

    Someone tell me why Modern Family keeps winning, please?

    You got me; I tried watching it a couple of times and couldn’t get passed the horrible jokes at the expense of a group of people, the slapstick that was just dumb, or the reality show atmosphere. I think back on comedy shows that I loved like Designing Women or Bill Crosby, and wonder if there is anything like that any more

    I don’t watch a lot of tv, so I can’t compare GOT with other shows; it is possible that these shows run circles around this series. But that doesn’t change the fact that its fan base grows every year, with every episode more people are picking up the books, and in fact, it was nominated for several awards, and actually one a few. I know how good the show is, and so do most of the rest of us. Those who work on the show have absoluteloy nothing to be ashamed of.

  79. Jack Bauer 24,

    What happens now? The people who make the show are going to continue to create extraordinary shows. The fan base will continue to grow, and it will go down as one of the best shows ever. So it doesn’t win an Emmy; we know better!

  80. Breaking Bad is a good show and deserves some of the praise it gets but I think it’s a little over-hyped due to it’s cool edgy premise and scenery chewing melodrama. I had Mad Men as my second choice and Breaking Bad as third.

    Let’s face it though, a sizable minority of the Emmy voters will be like that friend of yours who refuses to watch anything with swords and dragons in it. You can see it every year when the AV club puts up a compilation of TV critic’s new years top ten lists and two thirds of them have GoT in the top five and the other third don’t have it on the list. This kind of math does not add up to an Emmy win.

  81. I’ve said this pretty much every year since “Game Of Thrones” and it’s first season and long, long before that on other forums…the Emmy Awards are now confirming once more why they are irrelevant, useless and have no credibility whatsoever, if they had any to begin with…and why particularly fans of genre shows like ours already know what’s what, but also increasingly most television viewers in general are tunning out and turning away from these awards that clearly have little to nothing in common with them!

    When I first arrived in North America and didn’t know any better, many years ago, I thought that the Emmy Awards were THE markers for “good television”…boy was I ever wrong, a fact which I rectified rather quickly by discarting and ignoring them…

    I have a hard time taking ANY award show seriously, especially one that is supposed to recognize the best in television, which regularly ignored or excluded such amazing and groundbreaking tv programmes as “The Corner”, “The Wire”, “OZ” or “Brotherhood”, “Dead Like Me” and others we all know and love…

    Shows like “Boardwalk Empire”, “The Walking Dead”, “Game Of Thrones”, and now this year’s “True Detective”, “Penny Dreadful” and increasingly “The Strain”, and of course others, arrived onto the scene, upended the stale and dreary environment of tv by changing the television landscape and showing what television could and should be and what us fans can and should expect to see!

    These shows will continue to thrive and succeed inspite of Emmys, Golden Globes and anyother cockamemie self-congratulatory, bankrupt, compromised and meaningless trinket award!

    As a fan I will continue to watch and appreciate these shows and be grateful for the hardworking people involved in their making! Afterall this is the best compliment we as fans can bestow on these series, “Game Of Thrones” and others!

    Because frankly, speaking for myself only as a fan, I don’t give shit on the Emmy Awards and co.!!!!

  82. Hodor’s Bastard:
    Breaking Bad cleaned up. Well deserved.

    Loved the Weird Al send up of GoT and GRRM (and Samberg’s silly Joff).

    [Obligatory comment] Given the competition this year, it was an honor just to be nominated.

    Prediction for next year: After Sunday’s episode of HBO’s “The Leftovers,” I believe it will be a major contender at next year’s Emmys. The last scene was gut-wrenching.

    You being serious right now?! I think i heard the main guy talk about how it was always about great storytelling?! Leftovers doesnt tell a story. It’s just random people living through their fucked up lives without any explanation for what’s going on. I lasted 5 episodes. It’s a pity HBO didnt take on American Gods instead than that trainwreck
    (and i am aware this seems to be one of those love or hate shows. I am definitely in second camp. Dont see enough people like it to win anything) It will be Boardwalk Empire’s last season next year. Wonder if they will get rewarded in a way? If TD cant do the same in S2 since usually its 2 HBO shows that get nominated (a lot) not more…

  83. Buffy didn’t win a single Emmy and was only nominated for a writing award for Hush IIRC. The people who vote for the awards aren’t going to give genre TV a fair shake. GoT is big enough that I think it might contend after their final season but for the most part great shows like GoT and Orphan Black aren’t going to get a lot of love. Keep expectations as low as possible. Next year’s awards will have the finale seasons of Mad Men and Boardwalk Empire so I wouldn’t count on GoT cleaning up now that BB is out of the picture.

  84. Barry,

    What do you want for an explanation? Aliens scarfing up folks randomly and putting them in their zoos? Or maybe God lost a bet with Lucifer and subsequently she gets 2% of the population for her own doing?

    Perhaps “The Leftovers” does wander a bit, but I think the power of the show is the aftermath and the mystery….sort of like the “What If…” Marvel comics from the 80s. An explanation would defeat the story, imho. It is the utter lack of rationale that is intriguing. Nihilistic and surreal.

    I’m one of those readers who usually digs the Jack McDevitt/Asimov hard science fiction stories and alternative hard fantasy (like ASoI&F and Covenant) but I am struck by the pathos and borderline insanity in this show. For a while I was wondering if the whole show was about the police chief slowly going insane and becoming a deranged serial killer….but the PoV take on things have convinced me otherwise. Some of the storylines seem like they were taken from Kurt Cobain’s lyrics and nightmares before he nullified himself. Although given that, I believe it is an odd tale of survival, like “The Road” by McCarthy. It even has “Magnolia” feel to it.

    I say stick with it if you can. The last episode went back to the actual “event” and the character paths leading to the “event”. Fucking wrenching, man. In Utero, dude…in utero…

  85. Glad i did not stay up to watch this,heard it was shit which it was exactly how i thought it would be . I’m sorry i know i’m supposed to be nonchalant about this and saying it doesn’t matter but after 4 years i’m sick of it, the academy’s biased opinion toward genre shows is too obvious and even if BB wasn’t competing they still wouldn’t have wn anything. Just say this to me how was Aaron Paul’s performance any different than anything he has done before,i like the guy but seriously ?

  86. Uh, i hope GoT will never become so embarrassingly overhyped as Breaking Bad. It was a good show, but it was not that good. It was very simple show about transformation of one character without any higher value. Some stuff was downright silly, the finale was bad on Dexter level with millions of inplausibilities and cliches and A. Paul have to be the most overrated actor ever.

  87. Hodor’s Bastard:
    Barry,

    What do you want for an explanation? Aliens scarfing up folks randomly and putting them in their zoos? Or maybe God lost a bet with Lucifer and subsequently she gets 2% of the population for her own doing?

    Perhaps “The Leftovers” does wander a bit, but I think the power of the show is the aftermath and the mystery….sort of like the “What If…” Marvel comics from the 80s. An explanation would defeat the story, imho. It is the utter lack of rationale that is intriguing. Nihilistic and surreal.

    I’m one of those readers who usually digs the Jack McDevitt/Asimov hard science fiction stories and alternative hard fantasy (like ASoI&F and Covenant) but I am struck by the pathos and borderline insanity in this show. For a while I was wondering if the whole show was about the police chief slowly going insane and becoming a deranged serial killer….but the PoV take on things have convinced me otherwise. Some of the storylines seem like they were taken from Kurt Cobain’s lyrics and nightmares before he nullified himself. Although given that, I believe it is an odd tale of survival,like “The Road” by McCarthy. It even has “Magnolia” feel to it.

    I say stick with it if you can. The last episode went back to the actual “event” and the character paths leading to the “event”. Fucking wrenching, man.In Utero, dude…in utero…

    Bravo sir! Amen to that, could not agree more! I think even the eerie openning credits kind of tell you the type of show this isn’t! “The Leftovers” reminds me of the one other show where HBO tried to tell one of these weird storylines…

    That show was “Carnivale”, which lasted two seasons , let’s hope that “The Leftovers” lasts enough where the whole story is told and brought up to a more coherent ending!

    HBO only recently renewed “The Leftovers” for a second season…

  88. BB was brilliant and popular for a reason. Excellent writing, acting, directing. A modern classic.

    Maybe GOT can win some trophies next year, but I fear season 4 could have been the best season of the whole show. Too bad the competition has been so strong this time.

  89. I’m over the moon by the fact that Fukunaga won best directing. The man deserved it without a doubt, none of his competitors could hold a candle to his brilliance. TD, Jane Eyre and Sin Nombre were all home runs. I except even greater things from him in the future.

  90. Veltigar,

    I’m with you on this one. Ever since I’ve watched Sin Nombre with director’s commentary, I’m in love with Cary, he deserves every award there is to be. 🙂

    I’m not too disappointed with Thrones not winning any major categories, they had strong competitors, so it doesn’t feel like they were ‘overlooked’ deliberately. Besides they already won 4 Emmys which is great.

  91. Aaron Paul doesn’t reach Peter Dinklage’s heel. Nothing he did in the last season was deserving of an award, especially when pit against Peter Dinklage’s amazing performance in the trial. So fuck the Emmys 🙂 Predictable, and quite shitty

    As someone who loves Breaking Bad, I think it’s the most overrated thing I’ve ever laid my eyes on. The first season and the last were appropriately good, but Season 2 was crap, and Season 4 was mostly filler. It’s the kind of show where you’re bound to get a famous dinner table scene where it’s just Walt and Skyler exchanging looks for 10 straight minutes. The show could have been a lot better with less episodes and a tighter story. I also think “Ozymandias” is overrated- it’s a great episode, probably even a 9.5 or 10, but people saying it’s the best hour of television they’ve ever seen are getting over themselves IMO. There were better episodes in BB alone (like the season 4 finale).

    To be fair, though, I am immensely happy that True Detective didn’t win either because I find that to be #2 most overrated show ever. Like Pimpslap said above, the end sucked big time IMO and made the whole season worse for it. The only really outstanding episodes in the show were 4 and 5, the rest were slow and monologue riddled to the point where I found myself falling asleep again and again. I love me a good monologue but the show was a full one hour monolgue and it just got exhaustingly tedious. I was hoping the buildup and the end would redeem the show (because I did like the general idea) but it all went downhill after episode 5. The villain didn’t even partly live up to the expectations the show set (and can we talk about his invisible scar?).

    BB deserved winning the Best Drama category but I think that’s it. McConohoisduiae should have gotten the best lead, Dinklage should have gotten the best supporting actor and… I guess Anna Gunn deserved it, but yeah. Fine.

  92. A ceremony celebrating the best in TV is one of the worst shows ever.

    Until the voters stop with this sleepwalk voting, the Emmy telecast should be cancelled. Next year, have a nice dinner in a fancy hotel restaurant, just name the winners and give the list to the media for reporting (as the Oscars did when it started).

    My God, could this have been any more mediocre, pointless and boring? This is a waste of time. Can you voters at least pretend to care and try to analyze the choices you’ve been given? Many of you are actors, after all.

    I realize it’s difficult and unrealistic for a genre series like GoT to score wins in major categories all the time. But to nab five major nominations and not even get one, nineteen nominations total with only four wins? Another major category shutout two, three years in a row? Huh?

    Tori Targaryen mentioned the comparison to Star Wars, and I agree. I dare say SW has shown far more pop-culture influence and longevity than Annie Hall , and GoT might follow that path as well, joining the ranks of genre shows like The X-Files and Star Trek. In the end we’ll have to settle for that.

    I feel sorry for all Emmy nominees who get nominated year after year, show up for the ceremony and leave empty-handed.

    And especially, I feel sorry for actor Jon Hamm.

    🙁
    :-\

  93. jentario,

    Agree. I power-watched BB last winter. Loved the show but yes, it is a bit over-hyped. I suppose that all of current popular shows are – TD and GOT included.

    My favorite character in BB was Hank. Was disappointed when Dean Norris wasn’t nominated this year. (Maybe “Under the Dome” backlash.) Aaron Paul did wonderful things as Jesse but he was never a favorite of mine. Dinklage was great this year but he seems to be the Emmy’s go-to-guy for GOT. As much as I love his performance, we will never see a nomination for NCW or Alfie Allen which is a crime.

    TD wasn’t perfect but I think that Matthew McC should have won. Not a fan of his but that was a commanding performance.

    Flora Linden:
    A ceremony celebrating the best in TV is one of the worst shows ever.

    Until the voters stop with this sleepwalk voting, the Emmy telecast should be cancelled. Next year, have a nice dinner in a fancy hotel restaurant, just name the winners and give the list to the media for reporting (as the Oscars did when it started)…

    …And especially, I feel sorry for actor Jon Hamm.
    :-\

    One of the comments on Twitter last night (forgot who said it) was that the best way to win an Emmy was to have already won one. (paraphrasing). I watch some of these shows (and performers) rake in multiple awards and I think, “And The Wire never won one.”

    Sadly, Jon Hamm’s Emmy ship may have sailed. I hope not. Maybe there is a chance next year since MM will be done. His lack of Emmy recognition is a terrible oversight.

    Overall, it was a boring, predictable show.

  94. In retrospect a lot of the awards that some movies or TV shows received look rediculous especially when some great movies/TV shows were left empty handed who turn out to be major clasics or fan favourites or simply were technically outstanding etc.

    It happened with my favourite movie for example. (Not going to name it here) When I tell my friends that it was nominated for only one academy award which it won and I let them guess what for – they typically come up with best movie/best director (no) then best supporting actor (no) well then certainly best cinematography or best music (sadly no) then they have no idea and I tell them it was for best sound editing and everyone agrees that THAT is exactly what the movie is remembered for *rolleyes*

  95. loco73,

    Not sure if I’d include The Strain in that list as changing the quality of the tv landscape in the right direction…

  96. Annara Snow,

    Checked out the first interview, and some of these reporters are just so dumb, how did they get that job? Like it started well, with the question about the auction, but then she ends the interview with asking what the craziest death in tWoW will be?

    Like WTF did she really expect GRRM to spill his beans on that one?

  97. Veltigar:
    Annara Snow,

    Checked out the first interview, and some of these reporters are just so dumb, how did they get that job? Like it started well, with the question about the auction, but then she ends the interview with asking what the craziest death in tWoW will be?

    Not to mention he had to keep reminding her that he’s writing the books, not the scripts for the show.

  98. mariamb: Sadly, Jon Hamm’s Emmy ship may have sailed. I hope not. Maybe there is a chance next year since MM will be done. His lack of Emmy recognition is a terrible oversight.

    In terms of acting, I’d say his is the biggest oversight ever, but the Emmys never gave an award to Jason Alexander for playing George Costanza. I mean, really. For shows? The Wire’s lack of love overall is the most egregious, but for acting, if you can’t give an award to Costanza, you’re doing it wrong.

  99. Ragman’s Harbor:
    Annara Snow,

    Now we know a view point character dies… And I think I know who it is.

    I’d be really surprised if several POV characters don’t die.
    However, I’d be really surprised if any of the remaining original POV characters (i.e. from the first book) die in TWOW. (In ADOS, however…)

  100. Alan: I think GoT’s acting is as good as Breaking Bad. GoT’s cast is more diffuse, but the top actors shine just as bright as Cranston & Co and the lesser actors are generally better than BB’s supporting crew. There’s just less of the latter.

    GoT is unique in that just about every member of the cast – and we’re running 25-30 actors deep here, not just a group of 6-7 – is pretty awesome. Its weak link in earlier seasons was probably Kit, and he was excellent in Season 4.

    But Cranston’s a powerhouse. He’s seriously on another level.

  101. You know what’s the worst thing,even next year we may not escape the Gilligan era fanboyism,next year Better Caul Saul debuts and from what i heard it’s a drama/comedy type of show but i bet it’s still going to be nominated into the drama category which is bullshit and once again because of the fanboyism a lot of great shows which might have had a change to win don’t again because of this .

  102. Greatjon of Slumber: In terms of acting, I’d say his is the biggest oversight ever, but the Emmys never gave an award to Jason Alexander for playing George Costanza. I mean, really. For shows? The Wire’s lack of love overall is the most egregious, but for acting, if you can’t give an award to Costanza, you’re doing it wrong.

    Unbelievable that Jason Alexander never won for his Seinfeld role.

    For me, I wish Phylicia Allen had won an Emmy for The Cosby Show also. She and Cosby made an excellent pair.

    I’d also add Matt LeBlanc, Courtney Cox and Matthew Perry (for their work on Friends) on the “I wish they’d won an Emmy” list too.

  103. Greatjon of Slumber: In terms of acting, I’d say his is the biggest oversight ever, but the Emmys never gave an award to Jason Alexander for playing George Costanza. I mean, really. For shows? The Wire’s lack of love overall is the most egregious, but for acting, if you can’t give an award to Costanza, you’re doing it wrong.

    Absolutely. Not sure what this says about me but I love George Costanza. One of the great characters in TV. And I can’t imagine that anyone could have played him better.

  104. Lucius the Tico:
    I can easily envision Rory McCann roaring “FUCK THE EMMYS” taking a bottle of wine from a servant, punching the dude’s face and leaving the ceremony.

    What the fuck’s an Emmy?

  105. To the best of my knowledge it’s not possible to watch “Breaking Bad” in the UK unless you have cable or satellite TV. I don’t know if you can hire the DVDs (I’m not buying them). I cannot judge how good or otherwise the show is. There was a Scots detective show “Taggart” in the 1980s that had one series feature the theme of the schoolteacher who dealt drugs. That schoolteacher was already dead in that show so I think any similarities to “Breaking Bad” were purely co-incidental. I don’t know how the voting for the Emmys works – whether it is critics who vote or members of the public. Unfortunately only one person (or show) can win in each category unless there is a category for ensemble acting.

  106. I was not exactly surprised. It is too bad that such an outstanding season of GoT was up against an equally outstanding season of Breaking Bad. The only award I was disappointed in was Aaron Paul winning over Peter Dinklage.

    It probably didn’t help that this was the Emmy’s last chance to honor Breaking Bad.

    Lets hope the D&D do an equally good job (or better) with Season 5. I foresee good things next year (especially for Lena).

  107. I think it’s a joke Aaron Paul won for BB actually, I love the show but I thought it was cheap they got two emmy runs because they split up the last season. Not only that but to be completely honest Paul wasn’t even the best supporting actor on that show that part of the season…Dean Norris was and deserved some recognition.

    Just like Charles Dance and Pedro Pascal deserved recognition! Pedro especially after I heard he did his scene with Tyrion in the cells on one of his first days shooting apparently. He completely owned it as Oberyn from day one.

    But eh, the Emmies are still giving awards to Jim Parsons and Modern Family so what do I know? :-p

  108. I think Breaking Bad deserved all of it’s wins EXCEPT for Aaron Paul. Dinklage should have won IMHO. As for the loss of best director to Fukunaga, I can’t say that I’m surprised. The extremely long tracking shot in TD really colored everyone’s perception. However, if you look at the difficulty of the overall episode and all that Marshall had to integrate, I think he should have won. Just my two cents.

    Ragman’s Harbor,
    Annara Snow,

    Very interested in hearing about which POV character you think will die in TWOW (in spoilers, of course).

  109. Yep, I’m with the consensus here – Aaron Paul over Dinklage is the only one that feels wrong to me. The show, the writing, Cranston and Anna Gunn are all deserving winners for sure.

    Plus, for Anna Gunn, there’s a part of me that’s always rooting for Deadwood alums as well. From where I stand, if they once appeared on Oz, Deadwood or The Shield, I’ll take them as winners for anything, ever.

  110. Flora Linden:
    I realize it’s difficult and unrealistic for a genre series like GoT to score wins in major categories all the time. But to nab five major nominations and not even get one, nineteen nominations total with only four wins? Another major category shutout two, three years in a row? Huh?

    Nineteen nominations and “only” four wins? That’s quite a good tally. Near-sweeps like Breaking Bad‘s this year are unusual at the Emmys.

    Of the nominees for Best Drama Series, four of the six won none of the categories aired in primetime, and some didn’t win any at the Creative Arts ceremony earlier either. Acting like GOT is being singled out is silly. Mad Men, House of Cards and Downton Abbey all had formidable nominations tallies and didn’t win anything last night.

  111. Ms. D. Ranged in AZ:
    I think Breaking Bad deserved all of it’s wins EXCEPT for Aaron Paul.Dinklage should have won IMHO.As for the loss of best director to Fukunaga, I can’t say that I’m surprised.The extremely long tracking shot in TD really colored everyone’s perception.However, if you look at the difficulty of the overall episode and all that Marshall had to integrate, I think he should have won.Just my two cents.

    Ragman’s Harbor,
    Annara Snow,

    Very interested in hearing about which POV character you think will die in TWOW (in spoilers, of course).

    I could be completely wrong and GRRM may really surprise me. This is my list of POV characters by the likelihood of dying in TWOW, in descending order:

    Highly likely to die in TWOW, and relatively quickly:

    Victarion
    Barristan
    Theon
    JonCon (not immediately, though)

    Highly likely to die in TWOW, but later on (maybe even early on in ADOS):

    Cersei

    Quite likely to die in TWOW, but later on (maybe even early on in ADOS):

    Arianne
    Jaime
    Damphair

    Not likely to die in TWOW, but quite likely to die in ADOS/the resolution of the story

    Melisandre

    Could go either way (I don’t know)

    Brienne
    Asha
    Davos
    Samwell
    Areo Hotah

    Definitely not going to die in TWOW/until the resolution of the story in ADOS (if it’s the last book) but may very well die in a grand finale

    Tyrion
    Daenerys
    Jon Snow

    Most likely to survive the whole thing (in ascending order)

    Arya
    Bran (not necessarily as a normal human, though)
    Sansa

  112. Sean C.: Nineteen nominations and “only” four wins?That’s quite a good tally.Near-sweeps like Breaking Bad‘s this year are unusual at the Emmys.

    Of the nominees for Best Drama Series, four of the six won none of the categories aired in primetime, and some didn’t win any at the Creative Arts ceremony earlier either.Acting like GOT is being singled out is silly.Mad Men, House of Cards and Downton Abbey all had formidable nominations tallies and didn’t win anything last night.

    That’s true, but the four wins were for technical categories, not the major ones (acting, directing, writing, etc.) and I was focusing on that part. As for the other shows you mentioned, well, DA hasn’t had a great season lately. And MM‘s arc is pretty much done, although I hope Hamm might still have a chance at winning an acting Emmy. HoC is still a new kid on the block, but it’s gaining momentum and I think it might fill the top drama power vacuum left by BB. It’s possible Kevin Spacey or Robin Wright might win next year.

    But you’re right, four wins is pretty good with all the competition. Don’t mind me – I usually have a knee-jerk reaction to rant in these cases, and then I shrug and get over it soon enough. Not a problem. 🙂

  113. Oh look, Breaking Bad won everything to nobody’s shock. Yawn.

    The Emmys are always a reliable source of predictable ass kissing and tedium still giving away awards to shows that have long since stopped deserving them.

  114. Maybe someone already said this but do we really care what a bunch of old dudes think? I know the Oscars and Emmys are a big deal in America but in all honesty we do not need a bunch of badly shaped golden statuettes in order to know how great of a show GoT is. And besides if any fault lies anywhere at all it is with the Emmys and certainly not with GoT.

  115. Hmmm…so, beard/goatee for Tyrion in S5 right?
    No beard/no appearance for

    the Gravedigger

    🙁
    Unless he finished filming scenes and shaved for the Emmy’s.

  116. slayjoy:
    loco73,

    Not sure if I’d include The Strain in that list as changing the quality of the tv landscape in the right direction…

    Well that is of course your prerogative, you don’t like “The Strain”…I do so that is that…

    Just like you think “The Strain” is crummy and shitty, I think that “Breaking Bad” is an overwrought, over-hyped piece of feces that puts me to sleep, while its cast makes me either want to scratch my eyes out or pull my nails out with pliers one by one!

    The last time I tried to sit through one of those AMC “Breaking Bad” marathons to see what all the hoopla was about, I ended up seriously contemplating performing dental surgery on myself with a butter knife and a fork.

    Let me put it this way, I’d rather watch to flies fuck or paint dry than spend another minute ever, ever watching “Breaking Bad”…

  117. Never been a fan of BB, so I think it was BS that Dinklage lost. “Emmy Trial by Combat!!” 😉

  118. Sean C.,

    Another favorite of mine, Castle, is seldom mentioned for anything,and its been around 6 years (I think,maybe 7). The writing is sometimes weird, and there are plot holes a mammoth could go through, but the acting is always wonderful, and there are many story lines that leave me speechless at the end of the program. I’d think it should be up for best drama , and a few acting awards, at the least. Wonder whats up with that.

  119. I like GoT as well but I’ve just started watching Breaking Bad and I’m into the 2nd season. There’s no doubt that in my mind it’s a good show and it’s up their in the all time dramas list with The Wire etc. Aaron Paul and Bryan Cranston are both excellent in this show. I think the cast of the GoT have got too much class to worry that they didn’t win an Emmy and so should the fans of the show.

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