While major news comes out of Northern Ireland, Spain continues to be a flurry of Game of Thrones activity in Peñíscola and Navarre.
In the plaza by Castillo del Papa Luna, several props have appeared, and decorations for House Targaryen:
El Periodico Mediterraneo reports that in the Plaza Santa Maria, major changes have taken place in preparation for Game of Thrones. A “walled facade” with “doors and windows” now stands in the plaza, along with a catapult.
Plaza Santa Maria and the Papa Luna plaza were confirmed as locations recently in an official announcement by the city council. It is believed that the city is playing the part of Meereen this season.
In casting news, Modexpor International is still searching for extras in Peñíscola to sign on, particularly thin, dark-haired people 16 to 18 years old. They’re needed for October 2nd through the 7th.
A few images of the work in progress, courtesy of TodoPeniscola.com:
There is new footage and photos of the filming in the Bardenas involving Emilia Clarke and the Dothraki. Hola shared this with viewers:
According to Hola, the filming of Daenerys and the khalasar in this scene was shot in the area of the Balsa de las Cortinas. In this scene, Daenerys is kneeling, still wearing her old clothes, and her position with the khalasar is uncertain.
And the closer version:
Hodor
JON SNOW!
Petting Drogon?
I’ve seen the video of the last pic, two Dothraki arrive and take her away. I’m guessing this is when we’ll first see her next season?
Jon and now Khaleesi news…
Back to back awesomeness!
CrazyHorse,
Wouldn’t there usually be a big green ball on a stick as Drogon’s head if that were the case?
Ok, to me that first pic looks like an “under siege” scenario. So going off on that, I have big doubts the Sons of Harpy will be the attacking force from the inside. I’m sticking with my “outside forces attack Meereen scenario” from Dance until further notice.
Didn’t she have on a white dress when they found her? So, enough has happened between then and now for her to have changed clothes.
Where is the catapult?
Tori Targaryen,
Apparently Emilia
Arthur,
I think (and I’m just guessing here) that it’s only used in scenes in which drogon’s position is very specific…for shots like this, it might not be case..but again…just a guess…funny thing is that Arthur is actually my name too…feels weird to talk to myself..
DRAGONPULT!!!!!!
Looks more like a crane than a catapult.
So Yunkai will attack in Dany’s absence? Tyrion has the worst luck at being Hand.
E: at the same time, a Battle in the Snow with surprise Jon Snow and a Battle of Fire with surprise Daenerys would be funny.
CrazyHorse,
She clearly has here hands tied up in the video so I’m guessing Drogon is nowhere nearby
Meereen preparing for a siege. Tyrion in charge inside. 🙂
No. Look at the video (last thing in this report), http://us.hola.com/cine/2015092581203/juego-tronos-navarra/
where two Dothraki lead her away. I doubt that she will give away the fact that SHE is the dragon’s rider until some point in VD. The story she’ll probably tell is that her new master is the dragonrider.
Drogon is still napping.
Luka Nieto,
There are some on the top. You can also see them in this pic from a different source:
http://oi57.tinypic.com/5lrw61.jpg
Kay,
Oh! I hadn’t actually seen the video…it’s pretty obvious that no dragon is nowhere near..hahah.. my bad
Karolyne,
Are those really catapults? They are miniscule! 🙁
Luka Nieto,
Here is the picture in question, they are small ballista, basically very big crossbows.
Castle battlements are normally 4-5 paces wide, and therefore to small for catapults, unless specifically built in the castle design. So these portable large crossbows were created to be moved around wherever needed during a siege. Powerful enough to skewer 3-4 men with one shot or smash a ladder or punch through shields and woven screens protecting archers.
Where do you get that idea?
Yaga,
History does seem to be repeating itself. I wonder if Tyrion will use Viserion and Rhaegal in place of wildfire? And I guess Dany
This time I hope Tyrion will get some recognition for his efforts, and Dany will officially name him as her Hand.
Luka Nieto,
My toughts aswell. I also doubt there will be a siege. There has been absolutly nothing hinting at that posibillity.
But there has been quite a lot, about a civil war. ”half a city consuming the other…”/Varys telling Tyrion he needs to find who his enemies are,..etc.
tyjon,
So I guess there will be a battle, after all! That’s a great location for Tyrion to command from, just as he did from that custom-built set in “Blackwater.” We’ll be sure whenever they start shooting there, hopefully.
Still, though your explanation makes perfect sense, those mini-ballistas are disappointing.
Mihnea,
I’m still hoping for a battle, personally. Heavy artillery at the city walls points to a battle with outside forces, definitely! If those really are ballistas (read tyjon’s explanation; apparently those things existed.)
Luka Nieto,
I got the idea from the
Luka Nieto,
With the right camera angle, you can do wonders…
Here is a Youtube video of hobbyists test firing their home built Ballista.
Don’t try this at home
Kay,
I mean, obviously at the end of that scene
Yaga,
Don’t worry.
BTW, not everyone has heard the spoilery news, so next time, mark your comments as spoilers.
Sullied by Knight,
She was wearing the white dress but it was so dirty as to appear grey. It is hard to tell from the vid, but looks like it could be the same-
Tyrion setting free the dragons = unleashing wildfire in defense of the city. Perhaps just before or just after Dany arrives on Drogon, with a Khalasar behind her.
The most obvious route for the show at this point- but I think it will be epic nonetheless.
All I need now to complete the GOT awesomeness from the last days is a photo from the Tower of Joy set, preferably with the director visible so we can estimate at what point in the season it’s going down.
Everybody needs to cover their spoilers, please!
Luka Nieto,
Yeah, sorry I wasn’t clear.
Hah! (not the same Selmy effect though)
——
R&V will fly again! Meereen in chaos and burning! Trebuchets hurling the rotting dead! No way Dany is returning to Meereen.
How can D & D pass up the imagery of
[ spoiler ] Rhaegal and Viserion burning corpses in mid air while a battle is raging? The only problem is no “Pale Mare” build up. What would cause the opposing force to have corpses flung on catapults? Maybe they saved the bloody flux story element for this season? [ /spoiler]
I hope we get this imagery regardless!
I don’t remember seeing that many dragon banners all in one place in Mereen before. Or maybe I’m forgetting them?
A granary seems like an odd place to put so many. I wonder what this means for Missandei, Tyrion and Greyworm’s rule.
Hodor’s Bastard,
mitch,
SPOILERS!!!!!!
Why isn’t the spoiler code working in my post? What am I doing wrong?
In the longer video Dany’s hands are bound as she is lead somewhere. Thinking this is from episode 1 E6. The horse column video she has changed in to Dothraki Leathers , is which Darrio, and seems to be in charge.
Have a feeling that Drogon shows up either in Ep 1 or 2 and changes some Khal’s mind or maybe some bloodriders go up in smoke!
mitch,
You have to remove the extra spaces and use small letters in “spoiler”
From the excerpts we have of Winds of Winter , if this is true, Ian McElhinney is not going to be happy.
I think her pretty white dress got mucky. I know when she dismounted from Drogon in s5 ep 10 I wondered why her dress wasn’t white anymore but someone said it was dirt. Though to be honest I can’t really see that clearly what she’s wearing in the latest clip as she is at some distance.
Got it. Too late to edit my post though.
Yeah, I suspect that the civil war will replace the invasion. It greatly simplifies things and makes for much more coherent storytelling.
Of course, without knowing what the story is for Winter, it’s hard to guess how doing this or that might be useful for the story.
Boojam,
Well no tv viewer would have cared if Barristan was the one leading the battle sorry to say .
I cared, and think it could have been done.
Not really clear tho if the Siege of Meereen is really going to be done in S6.
Boojam,
As for Ser Barristan, perhaps he’ll die very soon in the books, before the resolution of the siege.
tyjon,
Totally reminded me of this guy and his Slingshot Channel. “Let me show you it’s features!” Just makes me happy when he says that line every time. XD
On another topic,some book purists from that site that should not be named are claiming that
lol,the delusion of these people is so great that now they claim that they even know what is an invention on not regardless if they know what happens in the next book or not .
Boojam,
The truth is,and i say that as one who likes the show better than the books,that Barristan was really underdeveloped in the show and it showed when his death got a lukewarm reaction. Not many people who hasn’t read the book would have cared about him really .
One thing about the longer video of Dany, the budget is up this year, I don’t think they have ever had that many horse for a scene before. This is before VFX multiplication.
Mihnea,
In The Gift, Dany and Daario mention that she is facing “enemies within and without” Meereen.
mitch,
Nevermind! Someone answered already. 🙂
There was.
S5E1
Daario: You’ve made thousands of enemies all across the world. As soon as they see weakness, they’ll attack. Show your strength here, now.
S5E7
DAENERYS: You told me yourself, I can’t fight enemies within and without. So when enemies from without come knocking, I need the city of Mereen behind me. I have no choice.
mau,
S5E5
Sam: Forces rise against her, from within and without
Marcus,
Barristan Selmy? You mean The Guy Who Stands To Dany’s Left?
Ravyn,
Lol,exactly !
Marcus,
The Tattered Prince,
Yes. Battle for Meereen is the most logical way to end that storyline. I don’t know what else people are expecting. And with pictures we got today it is even more likely.
They didn’t want to mention Yunkai too much last season, because they were building up for Daznak. But know, when Dany is outside of the city and they saw their “weakness” I expect they will declare a war in E1 or 2.
I think Battle for Meereen will take place in e8, just like Hardhome in S5.
Durrandon’s Fool,
there were targaryen banners in the big fighting pits scene as well.
Marcus,
And I don’t think that many people cared for him in the books either. I liked him, but I’m absolutely sure that putting Varys and Tyrion in his place is the best possible thing D&D could have done.
mau,
Nah,two battles in the span of two episodes will be overkill even for this show,maybe in the final season we would see that .
Marcus,
And what is Jon supposed to do in TWOW?
Even is that is their invention it is batter than GRRM’s version, but I’m 100% it is not. There are strong hints from the books and GRRM’s interviews about the parallels of two bastards.
That wasn’t put there for nothing.
mau,
Hey it’s book purist logic dude,when have they ever made sense on anything ?
Marcus,
Why?
They put Daznak and Hardhome in the span of two episodes.
And I’m almost sure that I heard Emilia Clarke mentioning battles in the next season.
Marcus,
I’m just impressed how deep their hatred runs.
Even if I don’t like Meereen very well I do hope Dany returns to Meereen before heading to Westeros. She can’t leave all her army of unsullied there, and mainly Rhaegal and Viserion. Even if they get released, she’d probably not know until she got there.
Not to mention it would be frustrating if she spent that much time in Meereen and other places in Essos trying to end slavery and left the continent when this is under a total caos.
No idea what’s gonna happen, but I assume she’d leave the city but would let someone of her trust to rule the city.
mau,
Yeah but as impressive as Daznak was ,it wasn’t really a battle,yes i know there was fighting being done but you could say the same about season 4 when Jon and the NW were fighting the mutiners and that wasn’t considered a battle .
I’m not so sure about that. If the response to him being killed early/so underutilized is any indication, I think a lot of people loved him in the books. I like having Tyrion and Varys there, specifically Tyrion, since I was damn near screaming at the book…”c’mon, have Tyrion reveal himself to Dany already,” but I would have loved to have Ian McElhinney around longer!
Yes, there was a huge reaction, but you are speaking about book fans on internet who are obsessed with Euron=Daario and Ser Pounce.
I’m speaking about casual book readers,
Marcus,
I don’t know how impressive this battle will be, but with the first picture above it is clear that someone is attacking them.
mau,
Omg,thank god that awful theory will finally die after this season,i’m talking about Daario being Euron,i first thought people were joking at first but when i found out they were taking it seriously i thought what the hell is wrong with these people,i know this fandom is built on crackpot theories but that one has no logic or sense whatsover .
Tyrion and Jorah in the books….
So streamlining…streamlining. The show has always streamlined the sell swords plot threads anyway. So similar to how changes had to be done in all storylines just for the mere fact that characters are aged up,
That said, I think Ian McElhinney would have been awesome. Don’t forget no matter how talented an actor, he/she is at the mercy of the writers. This isn’t only about good and bad writing determining things. It’s dynamics like how the writer chooses to emphasize elements about a character with specific story scenarios and character pairings. Think of the audience’s perception of Jaime between season 1 and the end of Season 3. Or Jon Snow by the end of season 4! Even how more show watchers began to really warm to Stannis this season while he was at the Wall with Jon Snow.
Nymeria Warrior Queen,
Actually the people were bitching mainly about the choreography rather than Barristan dying,trust me i was along when season 5 was airing so i know exactly what i’m talking about in terms of reactions to the episodes or plotlines. And man was it a chore to be apart of this fandom this season,i don’t know how many times i was contemplating about quitting reading this site because the atmosphere was so toxic it was unbearable,thankfully it got better in the latter part of the season but man it was tough .
I mean Barristan was always cool and all in the books, but he isn’t fucking awesome until he
But still…Ian McElhinney would have been awesome. Of that, I have no doubt.
mau,
I think it applies to casual readers, as well…not all, but a good number. I mean, neither of us are casual book-readers, as evidenced by our presence here, and you’re going off what you guess/your impression, and I’m going off what I guess/my impression. Neither of us can really speak for the casual reader, nor make valid statements about how the majority of them view Barristan. You have your view and I have mine, different though they may be. The truth is, we’ll never really know.
I was right here as well, Marcus, participating in the discussions about it. Yes, there were many people complaining about how he went, but there were also a ton of people complaining about
and quite a few complaining about both.
Sue the Fury, you are da woman!!
How are you going to do a Meereen battle without Greyworm? Raleigh Ritchie is not going to be there due to musical commitments from 4th October. Could this be another slaver city?
Marcus,
Ha, I always thought that would be a fun twist. But I agree, it’s a stupid theory overall and the “evidence” for it is tenuous at best. I even saw one guy connect Daario’s blue beard with Euron’s blue lips. Very convincing.
ASoIaF fans can get really, err… creative with their theories. My favorite theory is probably Bolt-on, or perhaps D + D = T, simply because of how utterly ridiculous and far out they are.
My general experience is that “causal readers” of any book series remember the main characters, and that is about it. I certainly noticed that with the Lord of the Rings and Harry Potter films, where a lot of people who had read the books either thought that the films had created lesser characters that really were from the books, or included lesser characters from other books that were not in the book adapted for that particular movie.
I, myself, have done that for Barristan-level characters when seeing adaptations of books I’d read and liked but for which I never had been a “fan.” The Hunger Games is the most recent example: I read and liked the books, but I had forgotten some of the tertiary characters by the time I saw the film.
All of that written, I always think that Barristan offers a very different lesson for fans. Remember how many people were convinced that Arstan would turn out to be someone other than Barristan? Some fans were convinced that he actually was Aerys or one of the old Kingsguard (Arthur Dayne or the Bullroarer). Of course, most people figured out that he was Barristan: but the detractors said that it was “too obvious.” Still, I do wonder if all of the guessing led people to inflate Selmy’s importance to the tale.
15 Internet points for tact! Harry Potter fans were much the same way. (Indeed, I suspect that a lot of them cross “Harry,” “Hermione,” and “Ron” off of their ideas and replaced them with “Jon,” “Daenerys” and “Tyrion”…. 😀 )
Martin,
It is meereen. Some behind the scenes pictures have the name of the city written on stuff. That’s worrying though. He’s really busy from oct 4-9. The filming in peñíscola is schedulled to happen between oct 1-9. Would a day or two be enough for him? We’ll have to wait and see. Unless…
Tori Targaryen,
where is that video? can i see it?
Hodor’s Bastard,
I will miss
nevermind that line. But this is Game of Thrones and characters die! Not even the book characters that are still alive are safe! 😀
I suppose that in itself makes it completely loyal to Martin’s concept.
Kay,
I agree with you…
I just dont believe them anymore, what with whitewalker hoaxs in Girona, it wouldnt be difficult to put down banners and signs two weeks in advance to send out false spoilers? Think about it….why would you put out Targaryen banners two weeks before filming?
Dont get me wrong, I dont think its impossible for it to be Meereen, but perhaps we should consider other slaver cities etc? The filming is set from the 4th in that location, which means Greyworm isnt present for the battle of Meereen , which is something I dont see likely…..
I understand being hesitant, but hanging the Targ banners would be an intentional attempt to mislead, whereas Jim-Bob hanging out in the window in Girona was so obviously a joke.
mau,
Oh God I hope not! If Dany is not back and out of Meereen by about the mid-season (episode seven at most), I will be disappointed. If the Battle of Fire takes place in episode eight, that means Dany could only have just Meereen by the end of the season. She wouldn’t even arrive at Volantis, let alone Westeros! Personally, I hope the Battle takes place somewhere between episodes four and six, with Dany and the Dothraki arriving to save the day, not unlike the Rohirrim, and wrapping up that storyline for good.
Episode 1 seems way early to be in Vaes Dothrak. Thinking that is a ‘trail’ camp. Not clear how many episodes it takes to get to Vaes Dothrak. Actually not clear at all what happens, except that Dany gets Dothraki duds and seems to command the respect of a Dothraki Kalasar.
I do believe we are at the point of deliberate attempts to mislead, why would you put banners out two weeks in advance to allow them to get exposed to the weather ?
I am looking forward to getting to Peniscola and doing a little bit more investigation 🙂
Karolyne,
The battle scene wouldn’t happen inside the walls. As the Unsullied Commander, Grey Worm would be in the thick of it, in the sands outside the city walls (while Tyrion commands from the walls as seen in this Peñíscola location), so probably Anderson/Ritchie isn’t even needed in this set, or at least not for that long.
I presume this sand battle has already been filmed ?
Luka Nieto,
Since we don’t know what will happen (at all!) in Meereen (except for the battle), it is very hard to place when the battle will take place, or judge if it’s late or not.
Martin,
Not that I know of. It’s just that, if a battle is happening (and that’s, as of yet, still very much an “if”), it’s probably gonna be fought outside, and the outside is quite sandy.
Dutch Maester,
It’s more of a hope (and maybe an expectation, based on D&D’s comments about Meereen and generally the way they structure seasons) than an actual educated guess.
Unrelated, but I’ve spent much of my recent time working on a fan trailer for the latest season. Do check it out if you’re looking to pass some time until season 6, will ya? Thanks 🙂
BlasphSelmy!
Dragonmcmx,
Great! Great lines!
that may be intentional..shiny new Targ Banners may not be what the scene calls for and the best way to make things look like they have been there a while is to let mother nature do her thing
They said 3 seasons of Meereen.
S4, 5 and 6.
Martin,
From what I’ve seen they were hanged between the day but them people took them out before it was night. They were probably doing tests, idk.
mau,
Can you find the quote? As I remember it, it was more like “We don’t wanna spend 3 seasons in Meereen!” as if that was the absurd extreme. I may be misremembering though.
Dragonmcmx,
Of course, I’ve already seen the season, but your trailer made me excited for a re-watch. Thanks for posting it. Well done.
Luka Nieto,
It was “We don’t wanna spend 4 seasons in Meereen!”
We’re on a relatively fast pace. We don’t want to do a 10-year adaptation of the books, we don’t want to do a nine-year adaptation. We’re not going to spend four seasons in Meereen. It’s time for these two to get together.
http://www.cinemablend.com/television/Why-Game-Thrones-Pushed-Tyrion-Dany-Together-Now-72106.html
mau,
Thanks! That makes sense now.
Still, personally I hope to see a bit more than just Meereen business this season. I hope they wrap it up and move on west —if not to Westeros outright, at least to Volantis.
Dragonmcmx,
Very, very awesome.
Luka Nieto,
I’m sure they will move west in E10. That can be the last scene of the season.
Not sure about Volantis. I don’t think that is that important.
mau,
Couldn’t disagree more, I’m afraid. Of course, there’s a heck of a lot of setup for a Volantene uprising in ADWD (not exactly easy to miss! Is it even “speculation” at this point?), but, in terms of the show on its own right, let’s be honest: though it was cool to see Volantis in Season 5, it wasn’t remotely necessary for that year’s story —Jorah could’ve kidnapped Tyrion in any old town (which is what happens in the books: Jorah kidnaps him in Selhorys and then takes him to Volantis, to find passage to Meereen). So why bother with showing us Volantis (in all its CG glory no less!), if not because it’s going to feature in the future? The fact that they have cast Kinvara, the High Priestess of Volantis, apparently as a mix of the High Priest Benerro and the Red Priest Moqorro of the books, only reinforces my point. I’m not saying Volantis in itself is important for the story —but their slaves and R’hllor’s religion will.
Yeah I suspect this is the case, but they are giving Ser Barristans heroic siege defence of Mereen to Tyrion who “proved his credentials” and doing a KL defence of Mereen instead
Wonder if the now cast Euron will turn up at seasons end with the Iron Fleet? Expect he’s the big antagonist to Dany out of the whole thing
mau,
They will wraped it up in this season and Team Dany sailing for Westeros should be the final scene or something with WW (preferably the first one). Great decision to put them together, but purists would argue. At the end of S07 we should expect the most anticipating meeting of them all between our arguably three main protagonists.
selena,
Agree
I hear the actors talking about how the staff “age” the armour etc that they use, so they don’t look gleamy surreal Fantasyish armour as is often the case with fantasy shows but in this case they will be rugged and worn etc
So in this case I agree that they will doing this to age the imprint of the banners on the Walls and make it look like they have been there for a while in a rugged Urban super city
Nymeria Warrior Queen
Agree; I didn’t take part in the discussion (was mostly lurking) but I was one of those people who was sad/disappointed about Barristan dying, and it wasn’t anything to do with choreography. I liked his POV in the books and felt particularly bad for Ian McElhinney, who seemed to be a big fan of ASOIAF and was looking forward to doing more in S5/6.
Then again, I suppose those are the realities of working on a show like this. At least he wasn’t recast – the ultimate indignity! Speaking of which, I watched the Spooks: Greater Good movie recently (very enjoyable) and Jennifer Ehle was in it alongside Kit Harington. She’s a good actress and I would have thought she might have done well as Catelyn, but obviously something must have been off with her portrayal in the pilot. Very happy we got Michelle Fairley in the end though of course! And Daario v2.0 is far superior to the previous version.
hmm one of the hotels rented by the crew for the Castillo de Zafra filming tweeted
https://twitter.com/LaPosadadeMari1/status/646007122300420096
Sounds like the filming will take a bit more than 3 days.
Jennifer Ehle (great actress!) claims she opted out.
You were in the original pilot for HBO’s Game of Thrones, but opted not to return for the series. (The part is now played by Michelle Fairley.) Why did you ultimately decided to not stick with the show?
Ehle: Well, it was entirely personal. My daughter was seven months old when we did the pilot. It was too soon for me to be working, emotionally and bonding-wise, but I needed to do it and I was also passionate about the books. I loved the idea of telling that story. I finished the first book when I was in the hospital getting ready to have my daughter. My husband actually went out and got the second book for me. I handed the first book to the midwife and started the second one. When I went back for my six-week checkup with the midwife, she had started the second book.
I love Game of Thrones, but it was too soon, and I did The King’s Speech immediately after. Then did a play immediately after that. I found out that the series was then picked up at the end of working through six months when I really just wanted to hold my baby, even though I was aware of the incredible privilege of having done the three pieces of work that I got to do in a row. I think everything worked out beautifully, because clearly the show is what it was meant to be.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/09/22/jennifer-ehle-on-a-gifted-man-game-of-thrones-pride-prejudice-colin-firth.html
mitch,
Ah, that makes sense – I was watching her antagonistic interaction with Kit, thinking, “Hey, this could have worked, what happened?” Clearly she just had other priorities and fair enough too. Thanks for the info!
I’ve long thought that R’hllor and the Red Church are going to be as important and as dangerous as the White Walkers in the end. The little scene last year with the Red Priestess in Volantene was kind of cool last year because although it served its own purpose last season (by showing Tyrion still more about Daeneyrs), it also teases a bit of what is to come.
What will be interesting is that both Jon and Daeny almost certainly share yet another parallel in that both will probably have some debt to R’hllor. However, I am willing to bet that neither will view R’hllor as a desirable ally in the end!
heh, Fabiolegolgas didn’t work for you? Seriously, although he was not as over-the-top as the book version, he was still just a bit too…. something. Hell, I felt like he was undressing me with his eyes, and I’m a middle aged man! (Flattered, of course, but I don’t swing that way; still, thanks for noticing….)
For historic sake, here is the WIC announcement of her leaving.
http://winteriscoming.net/2010/03/19/ehle-out-fairley-in/
Me too. I never thought that the ‘Euron=Daario’ hypothesis was anything but hogwash, but I would love it if in the books it turns out that Septa Lemore is Ashara Dayne and will cross paths once more with Ser Barristan, giving his arc some sort of closure. The TV show having eliminated the Griffs and their entire fascinatingly (to me at least) mysterious entourage, I suppose there was no longer any reason to keep Barristan around to bring that subplot full circle. Too bad, because McElhinney was perfect in that role.
Wow…if Selmy gets past the chaotic Meereen inferno and cesspool (unlikely) that would be an interesting turn of events!
Kevin Horsham is playing a Westerosi sea captain in either 6×07 or 6×08
http://www.castingcallpro.com/uk/actor/profile/kevin-horsham
Random comments –
1) Why do people think Jon is ever going to be legitimized or insist that Rhaegar and Lyanna married? It doesn’t matter either way – if you think Jon is going to be Lord of Winterfell or King of Westeros you haven’t been paying attention. And that’s really what the “people knowing he’s publicly legitimate” is good for. Privately, knowing Rhaegar and Lyanna love each other could be enough for him.
2) I’ve seen suggestions that Jon and Sansa marry. Where is this coming from?
3) “I am Sansa Stark of Winterfell, and you can’t frighten me.” Such a fucking great line. Please don’t waste it by having Sansa run away from Winterfell and then go to the Riverlands. What the hell would be the point of that??? I think Sansa clearly stays in the North, otherwise there were other ways to get her from the Vale to Riverlands.
Gravemaster,
He shot in Girona. So he’s probably the one that takes
(2) From GRRM’s original book outline.
Actually the first one was ok, because as you said he was at least not as outrageous as the book version. Seriously, it threw me out of Dany’s chapters so badly because I couldn’t understand why she was falling for this blue-haired Capt Jack Sparrow type. So the first tv incarnation was a relief if anything, but Michael H is much better!
Lisa0527,
I suppose it’s a reaction to nadia’s comment. It was Arya.
Huh? It is implied that Jon and Arya are quite passionate in the outline (while he is in the NW). Tyrion tries to woo her away from Jon unsuccessfully and violently. Sansa weds Joffrey and bears him a son. We never got any indication of a Sansa-Jon connection in the outline, afaik.
iridium,
Just for completists sake, I’d love it if they put the footage of the original Deanery’s actress somewhere on a Blu Ray, though I guess that wouldn’t be fair to the original actor.
Redstar,
Set preparation began on the 25th, and then there’s breakdown, packing always takes longer, so filming might go an extra few days. A script is an organic process, changing often, even while scenes are shooting, some scenes increase, are altered or cut entirely and additional ones added.
Greenjones,
That leaves episodes 9 and/or 10 for
Kay,
I’m guessing she only just gets there in the finale, but that we get some Frey scenes also to set up season 7. Because obviously the Freys are next on her list.
Hodor’s Bastard,
My bad. It was indeed an Arya/Jon/Tyrion love triangle. I have no idea where Jon-Sansa comes from. From wishful thinking?
Is any1 else having problems reading spoilers … Every time I click show spoilers the page reloads but the spoilers are still hidden … Can some1 please help … I’m reading this on my iPad using safari
Greenjones,
He could have been doing Oldtown / KL stuff, though. No?
Robb Snow,
that would be the best scene ever!!
Robb Snow,
that would be the best scene ever!!
Marcus,
yes, i would have loved some tyrion/selmy convo
Gravemaster,
An ironborn? He does kind of look like how I pictured Erik Anvil-Breaker.
and how do you think he’s going to control the dragons? The point of season 5 is that those beasts are out of control, not even Dany can handle them at the moment.
Yaga,
You’re right actually. Further examination of the casting call pro page shows he’s in ep. 507 specifically actually. So he couldn’t be the one who takes
Gravemaster,
The emphasis on the sea captain being “Westerosi”, which would go without saying if he was in Westeros, as well as the fact that he filmed in Girona, points to this sea captain being in Braavos, doesn’t it?
Greenjones,
Where does it say 6×07? And how do we know she’s still there by 6×08? I thought we only knew the director… I have a bad memory, though, and you always get this stuff right, so I must assume you’re right. A pity. I thought we had solved a little bit more of the puzzle that is her story this season.
Luka Nieto,
It say so here when you scroll down to find his name.
http://www.castingcallpro.com/uk/tv-shows/11209/game-of-thrones-season-6
And we know
Wimsey,
I think they might combine the “idea” of
and
in Meereen.
Maybe there’s a food riot and the Sons of the Harpy attempt to storm the Pyramid amidst the confusion?
Tokker,
Something like that is my guess
Greenjones,
Hey GJ/KS,
You just continue finding them, and I’ll continue adding them to the reference!
Luka Nieto,
I think that we know especially much of Arya’s story this season. I’m not even sure if I’d want to be spoiled more.
The one we really don’t know much about is Sansa… again. I hope that NI steps up their game by next year, given that the show ought to be shooting in cold places more and more. (do you think they will return to Iceland at some point? I think they should.)
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Tokker,
Remember that the major Peniscola scene is going to feature 1000-1200-extras.
I feel like this year, the show is really upping its number of crowd scenes. Is it just me?
Tokker,
Good point, a siege of the great pyramid makes more sense, especially with a large proportion of the population becoming more disillusioned with Dany, not just nobles but former slaves too. You wouldn’t stockpile your food against the city wall during a siege as that one pic indicates, susceptible to siege machines, but if that was the gate courtyard to the pyramid, well, there’s probably no room outside the compound for siege engines.
tyjon,
There wouldn’t be poor people’s houses inside the walls of the Pyramid. They’ve bothered to add houses from scratch into this location. It’s the city walls, not the pyramid’s.
Yaga,
I think it’s pretty unlikely the show is ever going to do anything beyond landscape shots in Iceland again. The filming hours there were severely constricting (and, in my opinion, detracted from the quality of the scenes shot there in Seasons 2 & 3), and that would only become more of a problem if they were trying to use it for the wintertime North going forward.
lalla,
Tyrion (unlike Darny) has read a lot about dragons. He would have a much better idea of how to influence them in lieu of self-immolation and Targaryen genes.
Tokker,
Yeah, that would seem like a good storytelling tactic to pursue. I think that the primary point is that they need to let Daeny be Theoden in some way. (Too bad it has been done: 1000s of Dothraki screaming death would be cool if it was not plagiarism.)
At any rate, I am betting that Protagonist A and Protagonist 1 will be leading hoards of “savages” against the foes standing between them and the real battle in VI.
Sean C.,
The snow looked incredibly realistic, and I’ll miss that, but the production values and the acting suffered a whole lot. I can’t imagine staging a gigantic climactic battle in those conditions, unfortunately. Hopefully they’ll take some landscape shots and really spend some of that CG budget in making it look like the North in winter.
Nadia,
People dreaming of a Harrington-Turner sex scene, I should think! 😀
So he shot in Girona and is in 6.07. That means he is in Oldtown. Something to do with the Ironborn? Part of Euron’s crew? Or does he drop Sam at Oldtown, if Sam actually goes to the Tarly castle first to drop off Gilly?
Scratch the last. It doesn’t make any sense for Sam to go by sea to Oldtown from the castle. So, Ironborn captain in Oldtown? 🙂
Some people read the original outline, know that Arya is too young in the books to hook up with Jon, so that storyline gets shoved onto Sansa, especially after her statements regarding how she know understands Jon now that she’s been a pretend bastard.
I think think some of the show-watchers who want it either think Sophie and Kit would be pretty together or want something nice to happen for Sansa and think Jon’s the last decent human being in Westeros, regardless of whether he’s her brother-cousin or not.
And some people ship things for no real reason beyond just liking the dynamic that fandom/fanfic lets them play with.
It’s an old ship that existed way before the original outline came out. The fandom ships Sansa with everyone, it’s Westeros most favourite sport.
Any word on the new Irish thrones rumor about coldhands lol
Shane snow,
Irish throne sucks for rumors so everything they might say it’s fake . Also what would even be the point of Coldhands this late in the show,it’s the same with LS hopefuls,they are going to hope that they are going to appear until the last episode of the final season even against all evidence .
I mean, he might do something incredibly relevant in TWOW. We just don’t know for sure. Though I don’t think he’ll appear, really.
Luka Nieto,
I don’t know, if he was that important,they would have brought him at the same time they brought him in the books or at least by the time Bran and Co left Craster,now it would just feel odd and out of place since Bran is already training and there simply is no need for him not to mention now since the popular theory that he was Benjen was dismissed by Martin he became even more useless to the story . I guess people became attached to him and LS because they are mysterious,supernatural characters and they overrate their importance in the overall story .
Marcus,
Agreed on people overrating them because they are mysterious and supernatural. Still, we haven’t read TWOW. We can’t know if Coldhands suddenly becomes relevant, though he certainly wasn’t before. I don’t think he will, I’m playing Devil’s advocate here, but still.
Damn lazy lizard, that one.
No news today? Sad face.
Aguero,
WOTW has spoilt us as of late, haven’t they? Big news almost every day 😛
Luka Nieto,
The only reason I could see them possibly introducing Coldhands at this point would maybe be to ensure the safety of Meera and Hodor if they end up heading back south, or maybe something having to do with Benjen…and I feel like I’m grasping at straws to even come up with those reasons.
Nymeria Warrior Queen,
I agree! But we haven’t read TWOW. Maybe there’s more to him. I don’t really think so, but so many people here are quite ready to speculate on Season 6 using the previous books as a guide, even though the season is mostly based on TWOW. Being aware of (and factoring in) our ignorance is important too.
Luka Nieto,
I accepted a while back we wouldn’t see him on the show. At this point, all I’m hoping for with him in TWOW is we find out what he is (who would be nice, too, but I’m far more concerned with the “what”) and how he got that way.
Given the Blood Moon tonight, perhaps a few directed and energized thoughts toward this matter are in order? I will join you in your anticipation. It is a night of prophesy and the Long Night approaches!
Add to this the fact that the other widely circulated guess about Coldhands was that he is the Night’s King – a role that has been bestowed upon another character in the TV version – and I’d say that the likelihood of us meeting him onscreen is remote at this point.
Firannion,
One thing about that is that GRRM seems to suggest that the show-Night’s King and the book Night’s King aren’t quite the same character, and that the book character isn’t around any longer.
“As for the Night’s King […] in the books he is a legendary figure, akin to Lann the Clever and Brandon the Builder, and no more likely to have survived to the present day than they have.”
http://grrm.livejournal.com/428790.html?thread=21724918#t21724918
(Ugh, right underneath GRRM’s comment is an eye-wateringly nitpicky post mentioning, with admiration, Linda’s “curse-laden” rant over a ridiculously minor family tree mistake the tv show made. I will never, never understand this kind of angry obsession).
Curious, why do some here think Sansa goes to the Riverlands? After everything she’s gone through in Winterfell, she’s just going to run away south? That seems unlikely. If she was going to just do that, show could’ve much more easily gotten her from the Vale to the Riverlands… had her go with Brienne, even, and skip alllll the Winterfell stuff if they were going to leave it without resolution.
No, all of that has to be resolved. Sansa will stay in the North. She found out Bran/Rickon are alive and that Jon is LC of the Night’s Watch. She’s going to try to find them again, or go to Jon.
“I am Sansa Stark of Winterfell and you can’t frighten me”….. and then she gets abused, runs away, and goes to the Riverlands? Not happening.
Nadia,
Does anyone *here* do that? That way of thinking usually derives from the idea that the show just lent her out to the Northern storyline and is now going to channel her back to her own story. Consequence of a very uncharitable way of thinking about how the show cuts its way through the plot of the books. (The charitable one is that most of what happened to Sansa will also in the books, in one way or another, and the show will instead reconnect her story in WF.)
Los Siete Reinos has some cool info about ToJ
http://lossietereinos.com/descubriendo-secretos-en-el-castillo-de-zafra-la-torre-de-la-alegria/
Bran will be there psysically
There will be Lyanna and another woman
They have photos of some actors involved
Jack Bender may be shooting
There may be a young Barristan involved in the scene
Barristan being there would require a new young actor. Wich could play anyone really. So this is pure speculation.
Bran being there is interesting. So that will be how he will see the Flashbacks.
EDIT: If there is a young Selmy, I wouldn’t be suprized if it where in another Flashback.
You say she runs away, I say she escapes – and that is better than sticking around and keep getting abused. Retreating to regroup or recruit is a legitimate move on her part. You make it seem like a bad thing for her to know that she is in over her head and needs to ‘run away’ and find something or someone else to aid her, and if that leads her back towards the Riverlands or Vale (where she has allies), so be it.
Sansa in the Riverlands is as likely as her staying North, at this point we just don’t know enough and so everyone speculates – thus all possibilities are open for debate. There seems to be cause to believe Brienne will go south, so there is certainly a line of thinking that Sansa will travel with her. Sansa knowing that Jon is LC and that her little brothers are alive could also determine her next move. Brienne knows Arya is alive and if she tells Sansa, perhaps Sansa will want to find her first since Arya maybe closer and they have a general direction to start looking. Littlefinger is supposedly coming with a Vale army, so there is another place for Sansa to end up, and under Littlefinger’s thumb she probably won’t be directing the course of action. Also Ramsey will be looking (hunting) for her, so it is safe to assume whatever she does, she will be avoiding re-capture (hopefully, would hate for her to be back under his power ) although, a little cat and mouse might make for some drama 🙂
I could also see how they could move her back south, if they felt they needed her there. I mean, they moved her to Winterfell because they wanted her there for Theon, it might not have made complete scene, but they wanted her there and so they wrote it in.
Personally, I would like it if she stays in the North. I speculate that she will find her way back into Littlefinger’s ‘protection.’ Littlefinger is heading North with his army, and so far as we know Littlefinger is part of Sansa’s storyline and whatever their path is, can be explored in the North.
Marcus,
I’ve been reading the episode reviews on the Site That We Will Not Name for the amusement value of how shrill they get about deviations from the books.
My favourite so far was for a GRRM-scripted episode (Lion and the Rose, I think) they decided that the bits that they didn’t like were “obviously” either written by D&D, or forced upon GRRM to write by D&D. Hilarious!
Okay, not very on-topic but more so than endless “Hodor!”s. Um. Pics look cool, hooray for season 6. There.
“Whew, I can’t we believe we killed those guys.”
“Yeah.”
“Alright, Selmy, you wait outside. Me and Howland will go see what’s up.”
Do those actors match up with people cast for the scene?
iridium,
That crazy nit-picky guy who adores Linda’s aggression is in charge of the GoT wiki, believe it or not. Unfortunately.
The two of them even talked about not having fought.
Luka Nieto,
Yep. Thankfully at least GrrM has never bothered to address his OCD nutso questions as far as I know. But yeah, TDD would be Lindaario’s toilet seat if they’d let him.
Felt Pelt,
Thats why I think this is fake.
And its not like we get Ian, to be sure. It’s a young actor who could play anyone.
Wow. The L7R comment section is truly raving. I’d better not come anywhere near it and wait for WOTW to report this.
Luka Nieto,
Serious question. Who put him in charge? Did he made the wiki? Did linda put him in charge?
And know another question. Why don’t we make a new wiki? One that does not have a longer trivia on the SS fight, then the actuall episode
(where he projects his personal view of the episode, thats not what the trivia section is used for, nor a wiki for that.). One that does not have Lena’s taxes. Just a thought.
Mihnea,
Linda, or Westeros.org for that matter, has nothing to do with the GoT wiki. And no, TDD is not the main administrator of the wiki; he was put in charge because he’s incredibly productive. The quality of his production is dubious at best, but the other administrators don’t seem to care —as long as it means they don’t have to work as much, they’ll let TDD do pretty much anything.
As for creating another wiki… I don’t think Wikia lets anyone create competing wikis in their system, wikis on the same topic. It would have to be on other website. Also, there’s the big question: are you willing to do the work? It’s a hell of a lot of work, and I’m not talking of mantaining this hypothetical new wiki but of catching up with the original. Honestly, it’s more realistic to throw out TDD… and that’s not very realistic to begin with, unfortunately.
Oh, and otherwise I agree with you wholeheartedly. TDD is so narcissistic that he truly believes his opinions are objective fact. Believe me, it would be MUCH worse if a few of us weren’t there to put a stop to his worst tendencies.
Luka Nieto,
we can dream, tough.
EDIT: Also, apreciate all the work you put there Luka, I can’t imagine how difficult it must be to deal with this kind of people.
Not as difficult as it is for him to deal with the likes of me. The difference being that I don’t take it too seriously, while it seems to consume his life. So I have fun with it, in the end; don’t worry.
https://www.reddit.com/r/asoiaf/comments/3mokng/spoilers_all_pic_of_the_northern_army/
Greenjones,
Mormots!!
Greenjones,
Uuuh, I see Mormonts, Starks. Can anyone spot others? All of the bunch are Northerners, it seems.
Are those gray-haired men on horseback on the front right near the camera rig, or just gray helmets?
Luka Nieto,
I think we can safetly assume that the red banner is Umbers. And perhaps also Karstark somewhere around there.
Concerning TOJ-related news from Spain.
[ spoiler ][ / spoiler]The other woman: Rather “Wylla” than Ashara or Ellaria.[ / spoiler]
Mihnea,
Aren’t the Karstarks with the Boltons? In the books, at least. And last we saw them in the show, they abandoned Robb after he chopped off their Lord’s head.
Luka Nieto,
Until I see it different I still think that in the end the Karstarks will fight for the Starks.
I base this on absolutly no evidance, and I even contradict what happened in the books.
But this is pure speculation, on my side. So I would not be suprized at all if I’m wrong.
This is just something I find interesting and hope it happens. But I also expect to be wrong.
What’s the white and blue sigil with yellow balls?
Aside from that, I’ve spotted all the others. Take a look! It’s just Starks, Hornwoods and Mormonts. But the other guys… No idea!
Luka Nieto,
Flint’s looks somewhat like that. But it could easly be either some minor house, that we don’t have a banner for or a House we know, but they did the banner in a differant way.
Ohhhhhh right. That explains the content of his post (well, it’s weird, but he seemingly has a mind for details). But it doesn’t excuse the condescending tone aimed the writers including the lovely B Cogman, nor the open support for L’s viciousness.
(Psst, dude, I think there’s a reason you haven’t been able to get in touch with Mr Cogman about your tiny problems. And it isn’t because he’s too busy…)
Luka Nieto,
I didn’t know the spanish had their own westeros.org,interesting. They are lucky they are filming in their own country because otherwise nobody would care about their irrelevant website so let them feel a bit important for now . Once the exclusive news go out,their site goes back to obscurity .
Yeah, the other lady is most likely Wylla, so ToJ will be happening in ep 5/6.. So will we get the rlj reveal midseason, or will the ToJ flashback be played out over multiple episodes so we get the reveal near the end of S06 ( as normally all the important events happen at the end of the season)
I find it curious how some people are already criticising D&D/GOT based on the news and rumours. Talking about the commenters from the spanish site. They seem to have forgotten that TOJ in Ned’s feverish dream was an unreliable and incomplete affair. And obviously we can’t have it like that since Ned’s long dead. Bran is the only logical choice left. And whatever he sees will be the unadulterated, concrete, complete event. For all they know, Martin could have Bran experience a TOJ flashback/show it to comatose/dead Jon or whatever in TWOW and that’s the scene GOT is adapting (not Ned’s dream). Only the Selmy bit sounds odd, but it might turn out fake.
Felt Pelt,
Mihnea,
ghost of winterfell,
L7R state openly that the Selmy and Bender stuff is not confirmed. I’m inclined to assume these are just rumours, because, honestly, for Selmy, past plot, and for Bender… is this guy going to shoot everything this year? Will anything even happen in the first two episodes?
Luka Nieto,
After looking at all Westerosi sigils, the closest I’ve seen to that sigil is House Egen of the Vale, sworn to the Arryns… but it’s not really that close.
I’m pretty sure they made up a sigil.
Dragonmcmx,
Beautiful! Well done!