Two New Irish Additions for Game of Thrones Season 7

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Is everyone finally back from their Thanksgiving breaks? Great! Time for a quick Game of Thrones casting update. A couple new names have surfaced recently to add to the roster, and one may provide a hint as to what a major character is up to early in season 7.

The Morrisseyfirst new casting of the week is Brendan Morrissey. The Irish actor’s agency CV has revealed that he has a part in the new season of Game of Thrones. According to it, he’ll be playing the Freys’ Lord in a Jeremy Podeswa-directed episode.

At the end of season 6, House Frey’s reigning lord Walder was killed by Arya Stark, exacting long-overdue retribution for the Red Wedding. That was when we last saw Arya, so considering where we left her, and what we know of Podeswa’s episodes this year, that means it’s a safe guess (though not confirmed) we’ll see this character in the season premiere. Will Arya be content with only killing old Walder, Black Walder and Lothar? Since all of House Frey participated in the the Wedding massacre, that seems unlikely. Arya may have more work to do at the Twins.

DignamOur second Irish casting note of the week is Rory Dignam. The actor’s agency’s news page noted on November 16th that he had shot “a nice little supporting role” on the show. The agency further mentions that the actor had just returned from shooting in Spain, at that time. In early-to-mid November, Game of Thrones filmed in several places in Córdoba and Seville.

The specific role name is not given, unfortunately. And while some of the various roles of the new season have trickled down to us, many haven’t and so we don’t know yet what part he’ll be playing. So speculate away!

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    1. Wooohooo! Is this a spoiler-free discussion? If it is, feel free to delete my comment please.

      Leaks

      So Arya poisoning all the Frey sons is becoming more probable now, I guess?

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    2. What was your favorite Brendan Morrissey moment? Oh, too soon? Seriously though, if he’s playing a Frey chances are it won’t be for long. No matter the manner, House Frey has no more “life” left in the story.

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    3. I’d agree with speculation that the actor filming in might involve Oldtown.

      Rhaenys Stark,

      [Leaks discussion]

      Yes, this lines up perfectly with the leaks (and also, incidentally, seems to indicate that a package of supposed leaks relayed by another Redditor as IMs from the leaker was legitimate). I think most of us assumed we’d seen the last of the Freys after Season 6’s finale, so that’s another thing that would be implausible to guess.

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    4. Since all of House Frey participated in the the Wedding massacre

      Can someone refresh my memory please on when was this established on the show?

      I have the book version on my mind and not all Freys participated or wanted to be part of the red wedding.

      Thanks!

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    5. Sean C.,

      Leaks:

      I think it’s quite clear now that the guy was right about everything. I would now be surprised if something gets disproven lol.
      If Arya takes care of all the Freys in the premiere itself, it’s surprising that it takes her 4 episodes to reach Winterfell.

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    6. Edith,

      We watched hundreds of people help massacre the Starks and their allies. Obviously that was not just Lord Walder and two other guys. (and we never saw any House Stark-friendly Freys on the show like in the books.)

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    7. Walder called both Lothar and Black Walder his “damn moron sons” even though Black Walder is a great-grandson. The show hasn’t mentioned many of Walder’s ‘spawn’ even though there are. He did mention that he has a lot though.

      If he’s to be the new Lord I’d guess it’s Edwyn Frey. He has supposedly become the successor in the books. He’s eldest grandson of Walder’s eldest son, Stevron.

      living book sons: Emmon, Hosteen (“Ser Stupid”), Danwell, Raymund (Catelyn’s book killer), Jammos, Whalen, Perwyn, Maester Willamen, Olyvar, Wendel, Colmar, Waltyr, Elmar. Then there are a bunch of grandsons and great-grandsons as well…

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    8. I had this idea that Arya will take out (or has already taken out) more of the Freys than we saw in 610, since I saw the In Production Trailer: there was that shot of 4 pairs of eye-stones being painted on some map. The more I looked the more I got convinced that the map was pointing to the Twins.
      The only interesting thing that a new Freys’ Lord looks too old compared to the late Walder’s sons, but I guess he could be one of the older sons, so no problem.
      I just hope that Arya won’t kill Roslyn and her baby by accident. In general, I am very interested how the things will work for Roslyn and other Frey daughters. It might not be that nice.

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    9. Sean C.,

      I think most of us assumed we’d seen the last of the Freys after Season 6’s finale, so that’s another thing that would be implausible to guess.

      I’m going to make a guess that there will be fighting between the Freys and Edmure Tully over who controls the Twins, if not the House of Frey itself. I’m also guessing that it won’t turn out well for any of them.

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    10. Geralt of Rivia,

      [Leaks discussion]

      No, it wasn’t him, it was Kay-something or other. She posted a thread indicating that, prior to the leaker’s deleting his account and withdrawing, she had exchanged a few IMs with him and he had provided further details. I think there were four or so distinct spoilers. One of them was further details on the Karstark/Umber stuff in the premiere, mostly they were just slight additions to extant spoilers from the leaker. The exception was a spoiler that Arya kills all the men of House Frey in the premiere, and spares the women.

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    11. Inga,
      I just hope that Arya won’t kill Roslyn and her baby by accident. In general, I am very interested how the things will work for Roslyn and other Frey daughters. It might not be that nice.

      I don’t think she will be killing any babies or innocent people… but will see…

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    12. The cast annoucement I am waiting is:

      Hugo Weaving as AZOR AHAI!

      If he manages to add Got to his Resumé, Hugo Weaving can pretty much live off Conventions.

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    13. Inga: The only interesting thing that a new Freys’ Lord looks too old compared to the late Walder’s sons, but I guess he could be one of the older sons, so no problem.

      Book age Walder is 92-93 years old (208 AC and it’s “currently” around 300-301 AC)
      His 12th son Lothar would have been about 35 and great-grandson Black Walder, as a grandson of Walder’s first son could have been around the same age.
      Edwyn Frey is Black Walder’s older brother.
      Walder’s second son, Emmon, is 60 in AFfC.

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    14. About spoilers:

      We keep discussing spoilers here at the comments section and no matter how easy is to use the brackets, there are people here who simply forget it, or do not pay attention.

      Would it be better then to simply have a big SPOILER DISCUSSION tag on topics there are spoilerish already?

      I think that the people who want to know everything about the “Ambush of the Lannisters ” for instance, are pretty much the same audience who would probably read the leaks or know it already. News like released merchandise, on the other hand, are not in nature spoilerish…

      What do you think? Does it make sense?

      ps: I use the brackets and I am just wondering, not criticizing anyone.

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    15. Rhaenys Stark,

      Thank you. “Flora” and “Linden” are separate characters from a novel called “The Bees”. I just put them together. 🙂

      Your name is great too. I like the Targaryen names, and “Rhaenys” is very pretty. 🙂

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    16. Curiouser and curiouser…and even more delicious! As is clear from the books and to a lesser extent the show, in some warped sort of Frey-eugenics, the late Walder Frey bred children like rats. At his death he was well over 90. That’s why he hardly knew their names or appearances: they were too numerous. Walder’s corpse, plus the bodies of Black Walder and Lothar (each minus a few fingers) surely will have been discovered and mourned amidst cries for vengeance. If Edmure Tully had also somehow escaped that night, the family would probably blame him and be even more up in arms. The targets of their fury would be Riverrun and the new Stark KiTN at Winterfell. Brendan Morrissey, the new Lord F, looks sturdy, capable, and martial. Any new lord must make his mark and unite his house. He’ll probably assemble the Frey men over dinner (a family tradition) ASAP to plan to attack their enemies, who are weak because they’re still licking their own wounds. What’s a humble serving girl to do?

      And if a girl takes a while reaching home, it’s probably because lots of her friends, frenemies, and a lost pet are in the vicinity. Reunions, especially the kind that affect the trajectory of the story line, take time. Besides, home is rather far away.

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    17. jon,

      He would make a good novice but I think they won’t do the Citadel plot.

      I hope you’re wrong about that because I’d hate to see Samwell do nothing next season besides being a glorified dermatologist for some banished guy who’s turning into Ben Grimm. 😉

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    18. New Lord Frey?

      According to the leak. Walder Frey’s still around, even though that’s just Arya in disguise, so there would be no new Lord Frey, unless that spoiler’s just wrong.

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    19. sebaciel,

      [Leaks discussion]

      My guess would be that when Arya reveals herself she congratulates whichever dying Frey would have been the heir on his being the new lord, or something like that. Point is, there are ways for it to work. Given that he was right on the broad strokes, there’s as yet no reason to think the details are wrong.

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    20. Agnes:
      It’s off topic, I’m sorry, but I just wonder where I could some information on the leaks?

      I’d reconsider, but if you really must… In an effort to not piss off the mods I’ll simply say Google “Game of Thrones reddit” and choose a result that looks promising.

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    21. Catspaw Assassin:
      jon,

      I hope you’re wrong about that because I’d hate to see Samwell do nothing next season besides being a glorified dermatologist for some banished guy who’s turning into Ben Grimm.

      hahaha I feel the same, Gilly and Sam are terrible, Jaqen/Pate would add some life to this storyline but the producers don’t care about the book anymore so I have a bad feeling about this. I would love to be proved wrong once the season airs 🙂

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    22. jon: hahaha I feel the same, Gilly and Sam are terrible, Jaqen/Pate would add some life to this storyline but the producers don’t care about the book anymore so I have a bad feeling about this. I would love to be proved wrong once the season airs

      I don’t think we will get the full Citadel plot from the books – I don’t think there is time for that in the remaining two seasons – but it isn’t beyond the realms of possibility that we see Sam with a few other novices (even if it is a single scene in the library or something), for example.

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    23. Alba Stark: I don’t think we will get the full Citadel plot from the books – I don’t think there is time for that in the remaining two seasons – but it isn’t beyond the realms of possibility that we see Sam with a few other novices (even if it is a single scene in the library or something), for example.

      We won’t get the Citadel plot from the books at all. Jorah and Sam is the worst idea. Like I said I would love to be wrong about it but it looks it would be another snoozer season of Sam. They had plenty of time to do that plot justice. They could have started last season with sending Jaqen to Oldtown and introduce Pate once Sam arrived.

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    24. Priscila,

      People who can’t use spoiler coding should not talk about spoilers, or they should contain their discussion to the forums where there are threads for speaking freely about that stuff.

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    25. sebaciel,

      [Leaks discussion]

      Over and over with leaks relating to this show we get details that sound weird or inconsistent, but end up being true, either because that’s just how the writers choose to do it, or because of some additional context. Lads clearly has a considerable amount of insider information, and I already provided an example of how the “Frey lord” thing could work.

      Which isn’t to say he might not be mistaken or incoherent on certain points, because his statements were often confusing. But as of now, I see no reason to doubt him when there’s nothing irreconcilable as yet.

      Unrelatedly, former GOT castmember Art Parkinson (who never got much to do as Rickon, given the limited nature of the part) just got nominated for an Annie Award (the American awards for the animation industry) for his voice work in Kubo and the Two Strings.

      http://annieawards.org/nominees/#26

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    26. Sean C.,

      Leaks spoilers.

      KaySen761? About Karstark and Umbers. Wasn’t it that Jon wants them to swear fealty and give them a second chance and Sansa wants them to be punished or ws it some different detail?

      Was there anything else on Jon, Dany or Bran in those added details?

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    27. Sean C.,

      nah

      no way would they bother to cast an actor just so Arya can tell him he would be Lord Frey if not for the fact he’s about to die. More feasible is that everyone learns of Lord Frey’s death and a new one emerges, then Arya kills him and some others (not disguised as Walder Frey of course). Makes more sense than the spoiler.

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    28. Geralt of Rivia,

      [Leaks discussion]

      Yes, that’s the poster. That was the meeting being discussed, as well. I don’t remember what the other messages were, but they were minor details, I believe.

      sebaciel,

      [Leaks discussion]

      It’s a bit part, and if it’s going to be a scene, there need to be people other than Walder Frey talking in it, regardless of what happens.

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    29. Alba Stark: I don’t think we will get the full Citadel plot from the books – I don’t think there is time for that in the remaining two seasons – but it isn’t beyond the realms of possibility that we see Sam with a few other novices (even if it is a single scene in the library or something), for example.

      At this point I don’t think we will get anything from the WoW and Dream. All the regiggered stuff from Dance and Winds excepts were used up last season, it only the climax and that is beginning to look like an approximation in S8.

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    30. sebaciel:
      Boojam,

      Weird. I didn’t doubt we’d see a little more of The Twins. And I thought most shared that opinion.

      I certainly did. It’s one of the focus locations where we are in the published books, which is roughly where the show is story-wise. They have or will certainly cut a bunch of it out as it’s getting to the point when it’s unnecessary, but at the moment it’s a bit unresolved. A geezer and two of his kin were killed but what comes of that? Walder has a massive family which I imagine contains many that would continue on with his plans and desires.

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    31. Boojam,

      Even if a miracle happens and it’s released before season 7, I have feeling that TWoW is going to have a lot of story arcs that the show will be beyond already. I think there will be quite a bit of the main characters going through very different arcs but ending up in similar situations as they are on the show right now. I can see Daenerys’ arc being the most similar between the mediums.

      What I’m afraid of is that TWoW is going to have far too much FAegon, Griff and Martells for my liking, which would be very little if I had a choice. Most of that stuff won’t be on the show so a big chunk is already eliminated.

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    32. jon,

      but the producers don’t care about the book anymore

      That might explain the rumor about Sam keeping in touch with Jon via a palantír. 😉

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    33. jon,

      Sure,the producers don’t care about the “book” that isn’t even finished yet and probably never fucking will . Oh but if you’re talking about the last two books then i’m with them,because i didn’t care about them either .

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    34. So, we probably haven’t seen the last of Jaqen, right? Even if he doesn’t get the Citadel storyline, I imagine he’s going to come back in a big way. It seems like he’s let Arya go relatively easily. She has essentially stolen the secrets of House of Black and White without that much of a price for it. I know he has a soft spot for Arya, but I can’t help feeling he’s going to collect some kind of payment from her eventually.

      Is the “Multi-faced God” the dark companion god of R’hllor? And if it is the “death” god aren’t its biggest agents the White Walkers? I can imagine that Jaqen can cause a lot of chaos with a return.

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    35. Stannisisdead:
      jon,

      Sure,the producers don’t care about the “book” that isn’t even finished yet and probably never fucking will . Oh but if you’re talking about the last two books then i’m with them,because i didn’t care about them either .

      You have acquired taste then. I’m talking about changing character’s motivations and making lots of stuff looking shallow and cliche when compared to the books. I don’t like DwD that much like previous books but it’s still better than D&D ideas.

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    36. CorinneStark:
      So, we probably haven’t seen the last of Jaqen, right? Even if he doesn’t get the Citadel storyline, I imagine he’s going to come back in a big way. It seems like he’s let Arya go relatively easily. She has essentially stolen the secrets of House of Black and White without that much of a price for it. I know he has a soft spot for Arya, but I can’t help feeling he’s going to collect some kind of payment from her eventually.

      Is the “Multi-faced God” the dark companion god of R’hllor? And if it is the “death” god aren’t its biggest agents the White Walkers? I can imagine that Jaqen can cause a lot of chaos with a return.

      R’hllor is just one of the faces of the Many Faced God and WW are actually stealing from a Death God so no approval from Jaqen 🙂 I don’t think we will see him again. He’s doing another movie now. In the book he will be an important part I’m sure 🙂

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    37. I saw Rory was young and my immediate thought was Rhaegar lmao. I really want to see this character on the show, can’t you tell? 😛

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    38. Alba Stark,

      I don’t think it is about time. I think that GRRM just doesn’t know what will happen there, so D&D have nothing to work with.

      I believe the same applies to Blackfish, Osha, Rickon, Doran,…

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    39. ramses:
      I’m rather done with show Jaqen. The only way I’d be interested in his reappearance is if Syrio Forel pops out of his ass.

      Are you proposing a new theory that Syrio is from an unknown society called the Assless Men?

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    40. Maybe Jaqen and Daario will appear in s8 for the fight with WW, but I’m not sure.

      Death is not the only way for a character to leave the show.

      Jaqen played his part in the story.

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    41. ramses:
      I’m rather done with show Jaqen. The only way I’d be interested in his reappearance is if Syrio Forel pops out of his ass.

      What a terrible idea! Syrio is so overrated and so boring when compared to Jaqen. I’m sure like the other poster said Jaqen will be a big part of the story in the books but in the show they will focus on Jon and Dany now. At least that’s what the leak proves. I like Arya but I almost wish FM were more strict with her leaving the HOBAW to kick her fanservice lol

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    42. mau:
      jon,

      And what to do with Pate and Jaqen then?

      It’s part of the story but not the show. Like I said I might be proved wrong when the season airs but it looks like they leave so many book material out. They changed Jaime’s plot ,Tyrion, Stannis, cut Aegon and Jon Connington, Jaqen seems to be there only to teach Arya while in the book he doesn’t even teach her in the first place. Faceless Men have been the part of the story since the first book and with all the build up and the Citadel plot and killing Balon Greyjoy they will obviously be involved in the main plot in WoW and onwards. There are many fan theories about Jaqen in next season but did you see any official info about him? People try to guess what’s his part but I think he would be filming now and he’s not.

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    43. Catspaw Assassin,

      Seeing the word “palantir” sent me to Google for a definition. I didn’t scroll down far enough to get the LotR reference and, instead, read about Palantir Technologies, a US data analysis company. I thought you were being very clever (as you usually are), as this company is used by the folks who investigate the “GhostNet” cyber espionage network.

      (I am really missing those direwolves.)

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    44. mau:
      jon,

      I don’t understand why you think he will have a big part in the books. He was bigger character in the show, then he ever was in the books.

      I answered in a reply to another comment you posted 🙂

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    45. CorinneStark: So, we probably haven’t seen the last of Jaqen, right?

      I see the implication , on the page, that the FM and the Iron Bank play some role, maybe an important one in the end game , that Arya will come into play in the Big Showdown by way of the FM and IB.

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    46. keltia:
      Catspaw Assassin,

      Seeing the word “palantir” sent me to Google for a definition.I didn’t scroll down far enough to get the LotR reference and, instead, read about Palantir Technologies, a US data analysis company.I thought you were being very clever (as you usually are), as this company is used by the folks who investigate the “GhostNet” cyber espionage network.

      (I am really missing those direwolves.)

      haha I did the same 😀

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    47. jon,

      How was any of the Essos plot a good idea,how was Jon sitting on his ass for a whole book a good idea,how was ending the book on so many bullshit cliffhangers and unresolved plots a good idea ? Don’t even get me started on the trainwreck that is AFFC .

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    48. jon,

      I understand that, but what you don’t understand is that D&D decided to cut all that, becasuse they don’t know what to do with those characters.

      And they don’t know because GRRM doesn’t know yet.

      It is obvious from S6 and leaks from S7 that GRRM’s ideas are very vague even when it comes to Sansa, Jon, Arya, Cersei,…

      D&D admitted that the Green trial was their idea.

      Which means that GRRM doesn’t know yet the way in which he will end the Faith Militant plot in the books.

      If his ideas are not clear with those very important characters, can you imagine how many plot gaps are there with Jaqen and Oldtown or YG and Dorne?

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    49. Boojam:
      It is odd, never expected to see the Freys again on the show.

      Same here. I expected a remark from some other character in the vicinity about what happened to all the Frey family and then we would move on. Especially with the small amount of time left. But obviously Arya needs something to do before finally heading back north.

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    50. Stannisisdead:
      jon,

      How was any of the Essos plot a good idea,how was Jon sitting on his ass for a whole book a good idea,how was ending the book on so many bullshit cliffhangers and unresolved plots a good idea ? Don’t even get me started on the trainwreck that is AFFC .

      I have already expressed my opinion so we can agree to disagree 🙂

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    51. Tv series has played it fast and loose with exactly how many Freys it introduced. Not that I blame them. A rather dark note I often wonder on: if Arya wants to kill every male Frey, she’d have to kill her own first cousin – her uncle Edmure’s infant son by Roslin Frey – and make herself a kinslayer.

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    52. Hmm now that Arya has killed Walder Frey, I wonder if Edmure Tully will play a part. Will he take over The Twins or go back and take his birthright Riverrun with his wife and child? It’s hard to say, who will take over The Twins especially if Arya kills more Freya.

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    53. Mel,

      It’s a bit of a guess when it comes to the show. While not many Frey men have been specifically named, Walder did mention having many sons and daughters on more than one occasion (“You see how they pile up?”). His book descendants seem more than willing to continue the path Walder has set for the House and I don’t think we can assume different for the show. While an heir that takes the seat may not be as crusty as Walder, it’s still unlikely that he’d relinquish The Twins or Riverrun without a fight, especially if they’re still on board with the Lannisters.

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    54. Dragon Demands: At last count, 217 Freys. Just kidding. As Clob just quoted Walder, “See how they pile up”, which perfectly captures Walder’s attitude. The Ice and Fire Wiki says, “During the long reign of Lord Walder Frey, the house exploded in size as he and his descendants sired many offspring.” They procreated like rabbits; it’s almost like his issue weren’t human to him, but little automatons he cranked out via a succession of under-aged wives (Walder to Catelyn: “I can always get another.”). Catelyn had known the man and his proclivities and was disgusted but did business with him anyway because Robb’s army needed passage and support. Even Jaime despised WF but held his nose and temper with his “ally”. Walder was despicable, but his name was Legion. If you are an undercover warrior who learns the Frey Legion is about to attack your brother and/or your uncle and you have the ability to destroy them, what else can you do? But I doubt Arya would hurt the child–she’s Ned’s daughter. Besides, the child is no threat and a Tully to boot. And probably elsewhere.

      Clob: Good points. On the hypothesis that Arya has indeed clobbered (pun intended) the Frey host, there’s no one to run the Twins, which is problematic as the Twins is so strategically crucial for Westerosi warfare. The women would most likely scatter to their homes. Considering she’s” taken” the castle, Arya would probably leave for Winterfell post-haste to offer it to Jon. She might ultimately want to rule it herself — in Season 1, she asked Ned if she could rule a holdfast. When he fed her that old codswallop about instead marrying a high lord and having sons etc… she said, “No, that’s not me”. (What a prescient, self-aware little girl!). I like to think that shortly after heading North she runs into the BWOB and asks them if they’ll temporarily hold the Twins until KiTN can send an army there. Beric et al would surely jump at the chance to dwell indoors in comfort and to ingratiate themselves with the new king.

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    55. keltia,

      (I am really missing those direwolves.)

      😉 If Nymeria doesn’t show up next year I’m packing my bags and walking off the planet. Just up and walking right off the edge, that’s how dire I am about it.

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    56. Stark Raven’ Rad: On the hypothesis that Arya has indeed clobbered (pun intended) the Frey host, there’s no one to run the Twins, which is problematic as the Twins is so strategically crucial for Westerosi warfare

      Yeah, I do think the show is going to take it in the direction that House Frey and the Twins will be completely overthrown because of Arya’s actions. That’s kind of the thought already with her assassination of Walder, Lothar and Black Walder, but we’ll see if she actually does do more. We might see a major House completely defeated by the hands of a single, solitary, diminutive girl that goes by the name of Arya Stark. Talk about making oneself a legend!

      I like your mention of Arya’s question regarding being the seat of a house. I’d forgotten that, specifically. I’ve thought of some of the scenarios that Arya could find herself in if she were to live through the newest War for the Dawn; Vegabond, a reversal of childhood thinking and becoming the Lady of Gendry’s House… Maybe she WOULD have the ‘iron’ to rule a House of her own. That would require honest allegiance, but I think she can earn that, and with her skills she can probably retain it.

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    57. I’m the lone cheese on this one but Arya killing even more Freys would smack of a video game or one of those utterly unbelievable Hollywood action films. I wouldn’t mind if in season 7 “killer Arya” was toned down, actually.

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    58. Jaqen will absolutely be back, because the world (I) needs more Tom Wlaschiha, and of course because far from going after Arya, the FM will be joining her.

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    59. ramses:
      I’m rather done with show Jaqen. The only way I’d be interested in his reappearance is if Syrio Forel pops out of his ass.

      Hehehe … Nice one 😀 😀 😀

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    60. Edith,

      The Freys are the Frayes for Arya it doen’t matter they wanted to be part of The RW or not Arya gonne kill Any Frey she could get her hands on Plus Damn Walder have many Wifes and Kids for Pig sake is it even posible to Extinct the fryes Family

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    61. ramses,

      Loved the Syrio character. Did not get to see enough of him, think he would’ve been interesting. Or maybe, we would eventually get tired of him too just like so-called sexy jesus lol.

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    62. lucy,

      Yeah, same here. Now that I think about it I see no reason why they’d spend time on her killing Freys we did not even know. To what end really? We get it already, she’s a vengeful assassin. Now if she takes out someone important different story.

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    63. Dutch Maester,

      Leaks:

      IIRC, he did not say anything about Edmure, he never explicitly said that Edmure doesn’t appear next season. Somebody asked him if the Riverlands is going to appear in S7 and he said no. However, the leaker seemed to be a casual viewer, so he may not have realized that the Twins is in RL or even who Edmure was. He was only replying to other people’s points, so maybe nobody asked him about Edmure.

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    64. ghost of winterfell,

      No

      He explicitly said Edmure wouldn’t appear in s7 and the Riverlands wouldn’t be even mentioned which is contradictory because he did say Arya would be killing more Freys at a feast and meet Nymeria. Those things would happen in the Riverlands

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    65. sebaciel,

      Leaks:

      That’s what I said. He said that there would be no Riverlands, but he might not have realized that the Twins was in RL (he himself mentioned that Arya would kill off the remaining male Freys at the Twins, so him saying that there would be no RL seems to be a mistake on his part) . He seemed like a causal viewer, he could not even spell Targaryen and had to be corrected multiple times.

      As for Edmure, what I recall is that he never mentioned him. However, all this came out over a month ago and dude has since deleted his account. So I don’t know how to confirm.

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    66. ghost of winterfell,

      Leaks

      It’s easy.It’s probable the word Riverlands is never mentioned in the script.The guy described scenes that happen at the twins or the meeting with Nymeria which are clearly in the RL but a casual show watcher would never the proper geography lol.

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    67. Firannion: I do hope that the intrigues at the Citadel don’t get cut out!

      Well, what you hope is that the intrigues at the Citadel that you are hoping that GRRM puts in the books do not get cut! After all, there have not been any citadel intrigues yet! (Doesn’t Sam get all of one rather pointless chapter there in Crows?)

      For my part, I hope that they are not in the book and not on the show. This looks to be another exercise in gratuitous world-building. Hopefully, it will provide succinctly some key fact or facts that further the character evolution of one of the main characters. Realistically, I can only see that being Jon: if Rhaegar & Lyanna really did wed, then somehow, someway, some Maester might have left documentation of it there. Learning that he is not a bastard would have almost as profound an effect on Jon as learning that Ned is not his father.

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    68. Stannisisdead: Maybe because the Freys are still a threat and Edmure is still captured,i don’t know,unlike you i seem to actually watch the show .

      Edmure is a tertiary character. Anything that happens involving the Freys or Edmure will be part of the storyline for one of the main characters. They are not “loose ends” in and of themselves.

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    69. Wimsey,

      Ned not being his father is going to have a bigger effect on than not being a bastard. If Jon is indeed a legitimate so of Rhaegar and Lyanna. Also, imagine someone like Jon lamenting about what the love of his parents brought to Seven Kingdoms. Only death to thousands of people, like Helen and Paris to Troy.

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    70. ygritte: Yeah, same here. Now that I think about it I see no reason why they’d spend time on her killing Freys we did not even know. To what end really? We get it already, she’s a vengeful assassin. Now if she takes out someone important different story.

      I agree I dont think it would be good viewing or particularly interesting to kill off any more Freys. It would be more interesting if they simply self destructed, they could start killing each other off.

      Leaks:

      On top of that the whole idea that Arya would just let all of the women and children go, is another cop-out. We have seen repeatedly that women can be just as dangerous as men, Arya herself is a dangerous women, it would be somewhat lazy to spare all of the women and children.

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    71. Jenny,

      Yeah, I doubt there are many casual fans who get the geography of this world and can even name the different kingdoms. It’s an understandable mistake to make.

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    72. Wimsey: Well, what you hope is that the intrigues at the Citadel that you are hoping that GRRM puts in the books do not get cut!After all, there have not been any citadel intrigues yet!(Doesn’t Sam get all of one rather pointless chapter there in Crows?)

      There is extensive setup in AFFC and ADWD for major goings-on at the Citadel. It’s not some fanciful supposition on fans’ part that that’s where it’s going. Those books (and supplemental materials released in recent times) are replete with things meant to suggest dubious motives on the part of some faction in the Citadel, and an eclectic cast of characters surrounding Sam with wildly differing motives.

      Wimsey,

      The status of things in the Riverlands will be very much a loose end if nothing more is heard about it (not saying that’ll necessarily be the case, but the suggestion that something isn’t a loose end if it doesn’t involve a main character makes no sense).

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    73. Boudica,

      In regards to that leak…
      If it happens I have to assume that it will make sense in context.

      Right now we’re not seeing the point in Arya remaining and throwing a “red feast” as Walder. It would probably feel like actual overkill if they go directly into this scene, but they could do a scene before it that might set it up or make it feel like a bit more necessary of an act by Arya. Perhaps she wants to cull all those involved in the Red Wedding and disguised as Walder finds out that all of the men knew about it and happily participated. The women in Walder’s family have always seemed to be very timid, tormented and treated more as things, not unlike Craster’s daughters. It would make sense for Arya to let the women and children go as she doesn’t believe in killing the good and innocent. In writing this scene I don’t think D&D would want her coming out of it looking quite THAT bad to the viewers. Critics would probably shred them too for her mass murdering a bunch of innocents after having just risked her life by choosing to not kill a single innocent woman.

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    74. Geralt of Rivia,

      I think bastard or no bastard, Jon is going to feel utterly shattered by the truth. Whatever the struggles he has gone through, his one compass in life has always been that the knowledge that he is the son of the honorable Lord Eddard Stark. Jon more than any of Ned’s children has sought to emulate the man and his myth. Jon, in a way, came to terms with being a bastard while at the Wall but he never really could abandon his Starkishness. He, like Arya, was asked to renounce his family and his identity outside the NW. He, like Arya, never did. And now someone may come and tell him that the one thing that made him him was a lie. His entire life was built upon a lie of epic proportions. I don’t think being a Targaryen prince will bring him any comfort. The Targaryens, both Aerys and Rhaegar, brought death to his Stark family. The sole idea that he is the product of a union that caused so much death and destruction upon an entire country will be devastating. And for his sake, because he already has too much of a burden to deal with, I hope he never hears that his biological father may have brought him into the world intentionally to later sacrifice him for the survival of humanity.

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    75. Danny:
      Geralt of Rivia,
      And for his sake, because he already has too much of a burden to deal with, I hope he never hears that his biological father may have brought him into the world intentionally to later sacrifice him for the survival of humanity.

      It’s the only way to ensure that all of the horcruxes are destroyed. Harry will understa–wait, never mind.

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    76. ramses:
      I’m rather done with show Jaqen. The only way I’d be interested in his reappearance is if Syrio Forel pops out of his ass.

      How can anybody be interested in Syrio at this point ? What a snoozer

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    77. lucy:
      I’m the lone cheese on this one but Arya killing even more Freys would smack of a video game or one of those utterly unbelievable Hollywood action films.I wouldn’t mind if in season 7“killer Arya” was toned down, actually.

      I second that.

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    78. ygritte:
      ramses,

      Loved the Syrio character. Did not get to see enough of him, think he would’ve been interesting. Or maybe, we would eventually get tired of him too just like so-called sexy jesus lol.

      What’s interesting about him ? Only “Arya cliche badass fandom” cares about Syrio 😀 The same with Gendry. They served they purpose.

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    79. Hey kids, I’ve got a novel idea:

      What say we all try NOT putting other people down for liking aspects of the show or books that aren’t our personal favorite?

      It’s not so much fun in here when the tone gets nasty and hostile.

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    80. AJ,

      Arya has never been one of my favorites lol. And I couldn’t care less about Gendry. I just liked the charisma/attitude Syrio’s actor brought to the character.

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    81. Inga,

      Hi Inga *waves*. I watched your favourite In Production video again the other day to see if anything struck me after what we’ve learned in the past few months.

      LEAK SPOILERS AND IN PRODUCTION VIDEO SPOILERS

      I thought the four sets of eye stones might be Ellaria and the Sand Snakes? I’m pretty sure the leaks said Euron kills all three of them? I can’t remember what happens to the first one, I think it was something like being stabbed, and the second gets their head bashed against something like railings. That sounded to me like it might happen on a ship, perhaps when Euron presumably grabs Yara? The third, I think it’s Tyene, is poisoned by him and Ellaria forced to watch her die. Which means Ellaria is highly likely a prisoner of Euron’s. He sounds pretty crazy and unlikely to let Ellaria go, so I assume she dies too as a result of something he does. Or perhaps takes her own life after everything goes horribly wrong? I dunno. Anyway, they are the most obvious set of four people in the show to me and according to the leaks 3 of them are goners, so maybe that’s our set of stones?

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    82. Mods/site administratory people
      I don’t know if anyone else is getting this, but just recently the text in the comment box has become tiny. It seems to be literally about half the size of the surrounding text and is practically unreadable. Everything else on the page appears as normal and the text is the right size in preview mode, but not when writing. If it helps I’m browsing on a Mac computer using Firefox and have done a screen shot so you can see what I can (or rather can’t).

      Thanks 😀

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    83. Lulus Mum,

      Same here – I thought it was just on my phone since I rarely use my desktop computer, but nope. Kind of odd. I also haven’t figured out how to get rid of the darn ads popping up from the bottom of the screen and blocking the test. Gah.

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    84. Lulus Mum,

      Hi Lulus Mum! How are your cats?

      Leaks

      The problem with the Sand Snakes is that neither of them is getting a proper funeral according to the leaks and the map doesn’t match too. But it’s a possibility nonetheless.

      PS. I also have this problem of a tiny text in the comment section + my PC often starts whining about being short of memory after I spend more time on the WotW.

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    85. The only problem I’ve had with this site is continuous script errors in Firefox that started several months ago. They lock up/slow down my browser for several minutes. I finally had to apply the YesSCRIPT add-on to Firefox and blacklist WotW as I read. That requires me to unblacklist and regen to be able to click on Quote or Reply and then blacklist again after the code is in the comment box.

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    86. Pigeon,
      Hi feathery one *waves*. Oooh it’s magic, I was just going to reply saying glad it’s not only me and it’s back at normal size. Hopefully for everyone else too. I like to think I’m so special that someone would spend hours devising computer coding that fixed the problem for me alone, but apparently I have to share the world with other people and it doesn’t all revolve around what I want. No fair! *sulks*

      Inga,
      Hi Inga *still waving*. The three of us are fine, thank you. Ernie is currently snuggled up to me like a soft, furry hot water bottle. Purring is very therapeutic to listen to. Hope all is good with you!

      Doh! Of course! I’m an idiot: eye stones are official funeral dress. I just tend to associate them with death of any kind. Maybe one day person A will appear with some, tell person B they are going to need them, then A kills B – preferably using the stones – and puts them in place saying “told you you’d need these”. Sounds like the sort of smart arse remark Bronn would make.

      Ok then, ignore that theory. I’ve got some ideas about Westworld if they are any help to you? 😉

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    87. ygritte:
      AJ,

      Arya has never been one of my favorites lol. And I couldn’t care less about Gendry. I just liked the charisma/attitude Syrio’s actor brought to the character.

      Not much of charisma when compared to other GoT actors 🙂 He was sweet and that’s about it . Book Syrio was more interesting but also not that important. I’m sorry , I read too much comments of Arya emo-fans that day lol I love Arya but more in the books where she’s not just simply badass but a real war child.

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    88. keltia:
      AJ,

      While Syrio indeed may have served his purpose, the showrunners left the Arya-Gendry storyline as open as a Wal-Mart on Black Friday.

      Not really. Gendry story was perfectly wrapped. He was only one of people she met on her way. He is a secondary character and if they bring him back they will give him the plot of another character. There is not big Arya/Gendry story in the book. Even in the show there is nothing between them, she was only a kid, he abandoned her and rejected her friendship because he didn’t want her to be his lady. Of course shippers imagine things.

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    89. Pigeon:
      Jaqen will absolutely be back, because the world (I) needs more Tom Wlaschiha, and of course because far from going after Arya, the FM will be joining her.

      haha I agree , one of the best actors on the show. I would love to see him with other characters not just Arya.

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    90. mau:
      jon,

      I understand that, but what you don’t understand is that D&D decided to cut all that, becasuse they don’t know what to do with those characters.

      And they don’t know because GRRM doesn’t know yet.

      It is obvious from S6 and leaks from S7 that GRRM’s ideas are very vague even when it comes to Sansa, Jon, Arya, Cersei,…

      D&D admitted that the Green trial was their idea.

      Which means that GRRM doesn’t know yet the way in which he will end the Faith Militant plot in the books.

      If his ideas are not clear with those very important characters, can you imagine how many plot gaps are there with Jaqen and Oldtown or YG and Dorne?

      That’s interesting because they said they knew how the whole story would end and they could end the show even now. They also said they liked Rory so they brought him back in s 6 even with no particular purpose just bacuse they could. The show is their toy. I’m not talking only about what might happen in season 7 but what they have actually been doing with the story for a couple of seasons.

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