Nikolaj Coster-Waldau opens up to the Huffington Post in a new interview, telling fans what he really thinks about Jaime and Cersei’s season 7 break-up, nimbly dodging spoilers, and talking about the difficult season 8 filming schedule.
“I think if it hadn’t have been the last season, people would’ve just collapsed,” the actor tells HuffPost. “We wouldn’t have made it. I mean, at one point the crew had 52 nights in one go in Northern Ireland. Just unheard of.”
The actor is complimentary of the final season as written though. “I wrote the writers when I finished reading and just said, ‘I don’t think you could’ve done a better job at finishing this story.’ To me, it was very satisfying but also very surprising and all the things that I was hoping for. It still made sense. It wasn’t like one of those where the killer is suddenly revealed in the last act and you go, ‘Oh! I didn’t see that coming.’ Here, they’ve done a really, really good job.”
The actor also has nothing but love for the cast and crew of Game of Thrones, who spent an enormous amount of time together in the show’s home base in Northern Ireland this year.
“And whether we’ve been in scenes together or not, almost all of the season was shot in or around Belfast. So for the first time in all these years, the whole cast was, more or less, in town together the whole time. It was just a lot of fun to hang out and spend time together and appreciate what we’ve experienced and how lucky we are to be a part of this show. Yes, the success of the show is great, but it’s really also meeting all these people in Belfast ― it’s the same crew from Season 1 to the end. It’s a special thing. And someone said we’ve had no assholes, which is quite extraordinary, really. You look at a workplace of more than 1,000 people, and there are no assholes.”
The interview covers a wide variety of topics, and in particular tackles Jaime’s painful break-up with his sister-lover last season. In a way, the actor had as many questions as some fans did.
“In my mind, after Season 6 ― which ends with Jaime coming back [to King’s Landing] and seeing Cersei on the throne ― I imagined a lot of other things happening…Dan and David have always played the long game the way they stretch things out, so when you get the payoff it really pays off. And we had a lot of almost heated discussions about how I was going to get to that point [with Cersei]. Like, [I asked], ‘Why don’t they discuss in depth the death of their son [Tommen]?’ And they told me, ‘Well they do, but we don’t see that.’ So all those things. It’s so much fun and difficult, and it’s also very frustrating. But then when you finally find your way, it’s very rewarding. For me, anyway.
“What I’m saying though, is I thought that end scene in Season 7 would have happened before. For me, playing Jaime, when he gets to that point, it really was ‘finally!’ Finally he says no. Finally he stands up to her. It was such a brutal scene because they’re playing two different games: Cersei’s playing the game of thrones and Jaime’s playing the honest game of survival, and trying to accommodate both his sister and his brother.”
To read the rest, visit The Huffington Post!
Kingslayer! Boycrippler!
Jaime: “Hold the door! Gotta get outta here and find Brienne to declare my love!”
Ten Bears,
You forgot sister-fucker.
💜
Tormund’s gonna be cool with this, I assume.
Nice article Sue, and you picked out the best points from the interview. I chuckled when he commented “Finally” about leaving Cersei; I would imagine the whole fandom said exactly the same thing when they watched that scene. I know I did. Those scenes before he finally walked out were some of his best in the show. (The same can be said of Lena, her performance there as Queen-who
-knows-exactly-what-she’s-doing was enthralling.)
Let’s see if I can list what led up to this long-overdue departure:
1. She not only called Euron to service, she actually, publicly, unapologetically promised him the reward he wanted, namely her hand in marriage, “when the war is over,” in front of Jaime.
2. Jaime then had to endure all manner of nonsense from Euron, such as Euron belittling his missing hand, and him asking Jaime if Cersei liked rough sex.
3. She called him the stupidest Lannister, then belittled him for actually wanting to keep the promise he made to ride their troops North.
4. She again insinuated she thought him stupid, because when he was young he liked to ride and hunt and she was the one who learned from Tywin.
5. She actually threatened his life, seeming to give the Mountain the signal to do him harm. The Mountain pulled his sword but did nothing, which to me showed that she meant to actually scare Jaime into submission if necessary, which is a backhanded way of showing she thought him cowardly.
Finally indeed.
There was one thing from the interview that had me a little worried that Jaime wasn’t going to make it through the whole of the last season: “It was a little bit emotional at the very, very end. It’s also just a build-up because throughout the season we had a lot of teary goodbyes and farewell dinners. When my turn came around, I really didn’t think it was going to phase me, but I have to admit that right when they said, “This is a series wrap for Nikolaj,” there might have been a tiny bit of moisture in the air, just around my eyes. [Laughs] But that was it, that was it.” This makes it seem like he wrapped sooner than some of the other cast. But we won’t know that for a while, will we?
Thronetender,
Agreed. him getting a separate wrap from the rest of the cast does indicate that he is not involved in the end of the shooting. I don’t think that means that he doesn’t necessarily make it to the end of the film, it possibly means that his story branches off and is told before the finale of the show is shot.
You are right, that very well could be the case – he branched off, he didn’t die. That makes me feel better.
Thronetender,
It does sound like they would have said that for everyone at ‘some point’ though, so it could mean an earlier exit, or it might not. I like him, I hope not. 😊
I mean, at one point the crew had 52 nights in one go in Northern Ireland. Just unheard of.
BEST PUB CRAWL EVER.
Pigeon,
It is interesting that the number just happens to equal one day for every week in the year. 1/7th of a year stuck in close confinement with the entire staff of the series. boy! their would have been some tempers fraying by the end >.<
I must say I did enjoy this when i saw it xD https://twitter.com/i/status/1034143045497839616
Thronetender,
Can’t say either way, but they do typically name the main cast that way. Even if they said, “This is a series wrap for Emilia, Kit, and Nikolaj” he could’ve been paraphrasing to keep the other names out.
I wouldn’t read too much into what any of the cast says these days, and I’ve been one to read way too far over the years. They’re too good at choosing their words by now. And Nikolaj has been known to purposefully throw people off in the past.
I remember watching the LOTR ‘it’s a wrap ceremony for Viggo (Aragorn) ceremony’. His character certainly made it to the end and he got his happy ending so I wouldn’t read too much into Nikolaj’s comments. He’s one of the main characters so of course they are going to give him a proper send off. And let’s not forget things aren’t necessarily filmed in order, he could very well be in the final scenes but we won’t know that until next year.
There is absolutely no way his character survives to the end, wrap party hints or not. I know GRRM likes to mess with audience expectations, and maybe Dan and Dave like to as well to some extent, but the progress of his character through the story is too ripe for not having a final suicidal/sacrifice type of final redemption.
Greywind,
And JoryKiller
Thronetender,
Jaime’s story should end with a tearful Brienne filling the pages of the White Book with Jaime’s heroic, self-sacrificing deeds before he died.
RIP Ser Jaime
Oh, was that f*cking good! Gotta go replay it 10-20 times. I laughed so hard I could barely see it!
the unburdened,
P.S. ASNAWP! 👸🏻
Great summary! I imagine book readers (such as myself) were even more annoyed at how long it took Jaime to smell the coffee, since he’s already broken with Cersei with another two (or more… or no) books yet to go!
What none of us know is what Jaime does afterwards, since his book departure and storyline are so different at this point. That gives me more to look forward to!
Yes indeed!
Hats off to Nikolaj for interviewing so often and never let us go emty-handed.
He bounces around all over the place with interviews and appearances. It’s like an offseason-long game of Where’s Coster-Waldau.
Queenslayer?
Ten Bears,
You’re welcome m8. she certainly is an angry snapping ninja turtle, or whatever it is 🙂
Interesting… in this universe knights can grant knighthood to others. Who better than Ser Jamie to make Brienne “I’m not a knight” Tarth into one after all of this time?
I really hope we get another scene between Jaime and Jon, some sort of follow-up to their meeting in S1. Could you imagine?
Jaime: Let me thank you again for guarding us all from the perils beyond the wall.
Jon: Yeah, no problem mate.
I’d buy that book.
“ASNAWP” is short for “Arya Super Ninja Assassin Warrior Princess”, coined by commenter talvikorppi sarcastically – but since adopted by me and several others as a shorthand for our favorite character. 👸🏻
(Variation: ASNAWQ = ” ” Queen)
The best part of that S1 Jaime-Jon encounter and any S8 followup is that back then, Jaime was a pompous a-hole goofing on Jon for being a naive inexperienced boy. Now, Jon is a reknowned, nearly legendary sword fighter* and Jaime is… a one-handed, middling swordfighter.
* I forget Ramsey’s pre-battle compliments about Jon’s abilities during their parlay in S6e9 but it’s apparent Jon has earned himself quite a reputation. Not to mention the “official version” of the outcome broadcast by HPNN (Hot Pie News Network): “The Boltons are dead… Jon Snow came down from Castle Black with a wildling army and won the Battle of the Bastards. He’s King in the North now.”
PPS Suck on that, LF.
Ten Bears,
Here’s the excerpt from the pre-battle parlay (S6e9):
Jon: “You’re right. There’s no need for a battle.
Thousands of men don’t need to die. Only one of us. Let’s end this the old way. You against me.”
Ramsay (grinning): “I keep hearing stories about you, bastard. The way people in the North talk about you, you’re the greatest swordsman who ever walked…..”
I’ll have you know I was late for work because I kept replaying this Apollo 13/LF execution mashup. 😄
Ten Bears,
yeah! I get a big smile on my face when it gets to the slit throat and everyone goes up similtaneously, like a classic outfield catch where everyone’s running around giving eachother high 5’s. very entertaining. and i know what asnawp is, i just like angry snapping ninja turtle better +_+ sorry for that.
the unburdened,
I lost it when Commander Jim Lovell’s worried wife and daughter react to Arya slicing LF’s neck by smiling and hugging each other.
and I always thought ramsey was pretty dumb in this exchange, saying ‘you’re good, you’re very good jon snow’ while his people were standing around witnessing the exchange. it’s tantamount to saying ‘ooo, he got me there’ while the the guy off to one side wearing the white referees trench coat put a ‘I’ in the jon column. Just stupid stuff by ramsey who understood that exchange was a point scoring exercise. It is possible that he thought that none of the point scoring meant anything while he held the trump ace up his sleeve in the form of Rickon. Still, he needlessly allowed himself to look like a twit.
Thanks … the way she treated Jaime this year was so opposite the way they were together in all prior seasons, such as season6-ep6, after Tommen exiles him. Cersei tells Jaime “without you all this is for nothing.” Now she wastes no opportunity to denounce him. No wonder he was so shocked. She allowed them to be seen in bed together, erasing any and all doubt about them being sexually active, then seems about to publicly exchange him for another man, Euron Greyjoy no less.
His pride has taken a thorough bashing during the course of the show, yet he still musters courage and honor. NCW has portrayed this beautifully, imho. I can’t wait to see what’s in store for him in 8. Plus, he will be sporting a beard, according to the interview.
He had this to say about his future:
Interviewer: Spoilers are hard to come by, especially going into Season 8, but in the script for “Dragon and the Wolf” it says Jaime is now “a lone horseman heading north on the Kingsroad.” So can we assume Jaime is heading north toward his brother, right?
NCW: Well, he is heading north. I don’t think you can assume that he’s going to make it up there, but who knows. For sure, we see him head north. He might be eaten by dragons, you never know. Or he might just stumble, things happen. Or he might find the love of his life and suddenly he’s like, “God, this is it. No more.”
Interviewer: Well, we hope you’re heading north to be with Brienne! The true love of your life.
NCW: Ohhh, well, who knows? [Laughs] I don’t, well, I know how it ends but … no, I can’t comment on that.
I remember at the end of season 6 being fairly certain that Jamie would break from Cersei at the start of season 7, so it was a season overdue in my mind. However, they probably delayed it for dramatic reasons, perhaps wanting to hold off dealing with the fallout until season 8. Besides, the scene of Jamie riding away from KL at the end of 7×07 is so, so very good!
I also have to admit that I am super excited to see what that 52-day mammoth-of-a-shoot will bring us next season. I have a feeling epic will only begin to scratch the surface!
Enharmony1625,
That short scene of Jamie leaving King’s Landing and putting on the glove and the small flake of snow hitting his glove and then the perfect score from Djawadi with shots of empty streets in King’s Landing… honestly one of my favorites of the series. It’s so understated yet it perfectly captures the mood of both Jamie going out on his own AND then general feeling of the seasons turning from summer (and fall) into outright winter. The first snow of a season at once feels and looks so pristine but also signifies the cold and darkness of winter. I’m mostly babbling but the scene + score manage to hit that feeling right on the nose
I just want to see Dany give her “Bend the knee” ultimatum to Jaime. After riding towards her with a spear in hand, that’s the least he can do.
(That’d be kind of funny if Jaime rides all the way to WF, only to see Dany and think to himself: “WTF is she doing here?)
+1
Thronetender,
I think in his mind at the moment of leaving kings landing he is heading straight to winterfell, but along the way he has a touch of inspiration and detours to riverun and finds edmure and releases him, and gathers all the tulleys and then takes them to winterfell as a kind of peace offering.
the unburdened,
If they don’t let Jaime into WF, will he catapult Edmure, Jr. over the castle wall?
Well, this is clearly Ramsey being sarcastic and belittling. The skills of the dude challenging you to a mano-a-mano are pretty much irrelevant if you’ve got the bigger army. Only the guy on the losing side ever makes a one-on-one challenge.
zandru,
This isn’t true. When henry V made a push to assert his claim to the french throne in 1415, he issued the french deuphine a solo challenge before commencing the conquest. This was for no other reason than to eliminate the suffering to the french people whom he intended to rule after his conquest.
À propos of nothing in particular, those were some really special goats Drogon went after way back when…
https://www.facebook.com/greatbigstory/videos/1127236097427532/
You have me on the history – I claim a grossly inadequate knowledge of European kings & battles (the two sure do go together, don’t they?). My cynicism tells me that
is at best a partial, probably secondary consideration. Maybe it was even “spin” put on in later years. But again – I don’t actually know anything about this history.
That goat farm almost got foreclosed on (and the goats slaughtered, about half the total population of Icelandic goats in existence) not long after filming the Game of Thrones scenes. They had a crowdfunding campaign on Indiegogo to raise money to avoid foreclosure. It’s good to see that they seem to be doing well now.
zandru,
There was no spin to it. Henry made his claim known, the french prince responded with scorn, presenting him with tennis balls instead. Henry responded with, ‘he would play a set at the Louvre when he resided in Paris and embarked on his conquest. So, quite clearly Henry backed himself to deal with the French army. He landed at harfleur and laid siege to it and was there most of the summer while the French army stayed behind their fortifications in Paris. It is clear that both sides felt that taking on Henry was a risky proposition. Do not forget that had the French attacked, they would have had Henry sandwiched between their army and Harfleur, and still they did not attack. At the end of the summer, when the campaigning season was almost over and Harfleur saw that the French King would not relieve them they opened their gates to Henry. At this point Henry issued his challenge of a 1v1 with the deuphine which was rejected. He had lost nearly two thirds of his army to sickness (dysentry) including his brother, and yet still he embarked on a chevauchee, which is when the real suffering of the French people began (this is what henry had tried to avoid). A chevauchee is designed to compel the host to make their move. The French made no move, and Henry got to within sight of the walls of Paris with his depleted token force and still the french army who had been rested all summer did not move to confront them. So how is it then that at the start of this chevauchee when henry issued his challenge to a 1v1 that Henry would have been judged the one to definitely lose? By the time that he got to Paris it was getting very late in the year and it was apparent by then that they must start heading for home before winter set in. Only then did the french army move to confront them, but they still did not confront them immediately, they just followed them in an effort to make their progress as difficult as possible by collapsing bridges in front of them so they needed to find different routes etc. Why? If they were numerically superior and fresh why did they not just stomp on them? The answer is clear, even though they had a fresh army of 35,000 and Henry had a diseased, exhausted and starving army of 6,000 he was still regarded as highly dangerous. They continued to follow him all the way to near Calais making life as hard as they could for him all the way. But, once there, they needed to confront him to make sure that he did not slip away in the night. On the 25th of October they did confront him and lost. So, you could hardly say that Henry’s challenge was one made from a position of weakness.
the unburdened,
Thanks! Very interesting. I may need to add European history to my reading list.
I missed this article with the recent S8 teaser however this is another nod strongly hinting at a big twist and yet more subtly points to Dany breaking bad. I know I am not a huge fan of the character but Dany turning here feels like the only logical twist at this point.
We know from filming articles on this site
Aaah. Nik, who really understands Jaime, being a bit lost and confused since S3, and apparently his character now coming into his own. Can’t wait!
As a confessed Jaime fan, a NCW fan, this all sounds good. Oh, Jaime’ll probobly end up dead and not having lovely, tall babies with Brienne of Tarth, but he’ll apparently still have something important to do. Whether it’s protecting Rhaegar’s children (Jon) or being the valonqar…
Poor Jaime. Nobody will ever know, or believe him when he fulfills his knightly duties and vows and oaths. We readers/show watchers will know, but the people in his world won’t. He might fulfill every vow and oath in the end… But he can’t escape his past.
As to S8, I’m most looking forward to a Bran/Jaime reunion. They’ve both changed since their previous encounter in S1E1.
talvikorppi,
I don’t know, I think the White Pages will come into play for Jamie’s ending. His good deeds will be recorded down for posterity (maybe by Brienne or Tyrion?). He probably won’t be around to “enjoy” the fruits of his better deeds, but hopefully later generations will know. Having just rewatched season 4, the book is very present during Jamie’s story throughout the season, so I take this as pretty strong foreshadowing.
the unburdened,
That is fascinating, thanks. I have been reading English history lately- mostly Tudor/Elizabethan era so far. Working backwards, as it were- about to embark on the war of the roses, which I know GRRM has cited many times as inspiration.
Also. Jaime. The one true sister kisser. Watch him forge lightbringer to his golden hand, before embarking on a suicidal mission, slaying scores of wights and a walker or five, before he dies.
Sister Kisser,
I believe that Brienne of Tarth and Tormand will get it together. He’s not called Giantsbane for no reason, and I agree with NCW’s assessment that you really have to see Jaime as damaged goods and even if there is chemistry there between them he wont be good for her in the end, so he will do what ever he can to avoid that scenario so that he does not spread the damage to her.
That NO was supposed to happen all the way back in Season 5, with all the signs showing even earlier. But they backtracked a lot on Jaime’s character. And it is a shame.
I see you Nik.
the unburdened,
Ok sorry but creepy stalker isn’t a whole lot better than soiled incest-Knight. Worse. Let Brienne be.
lol 🙂 I love Tormund haha, he is my second favorite character in the story. He isn’t a stalker lol he just has electricity for brienne. brienne does not share it yet, but that is because she has been brought up with a westerosi paradigm of being disgusted by wildings in general. But, make no mistake, Tormund is a good man, as good as any of the up-trumped good people of Westeros. I will bet that his daughters adore him. I can see that he would be an easy man to like if you were on his side. A damn site finer man than stinking Randyll (i’ll kill my own son rather than be associated with him)Tarley, and everyone in westeros thinks that he is a wonderful honourable man pfft. I really believe that if Brienne spent as much time with Tormund as she did initially with jaime, she would see past the rough edges and see him for the man that he really is.
the unburdened,
It has been two season since they first met, if Tormund has not yet learned to treat Brienne in a way that does not make her feel uncomfortable, he is not the man for her. He is either unable to pick up her cues, or unwilling. And it doesn’t matter why she has no interest in him, what matter is she doesn’t and that should be respected. Besides, her relationship with Jaime has been carefully built up over the season and become an important part of her character. For Brienne to be thrown at Tormund in the final season would be a major disservice to her character.
whateverdgaf,
Brienne & Tormund is a stage direction that had an unexpected reception from the fan base, so the writers played with it a bit. That’s it. I hope they let it go before it gets sappy and silly – if it hasn’t already.
the unburdened,
I agree.
And, by the way: Wildlings are used to fighting women, it’s quite okay for them, and for them a woman is no less a woman, if she is able to handle weappons, not like people in Westeros think, that a woman has to fullfill her traditional role as political card and a hole, raising children and running the household.
Tormund adores Brienne for what she is, a big woman with the right skills, one to to look eye to eye.
In the show they make it funny, how Tormund and Brienne act, but isn’t love funny in real life for those, who look from ouside?
I wish Jon hasn’t had pledged himself to Dany so soon. I really wanted to see Jaime bend the knee to King Jon.
cos alpha,
It’s not love, it’s a very onesided attraction based only on Tormund’s very shallow perception of Brienne. Tormund does not love Brienne for what or who she is because he has no idea who she is, there is far more to her than a ‘big warrior woman’ and to say so is an insult to her character.
It is Jaime who loves Brienne for who she is, unlike Tormund’s shallow obsession Jaime’s love for Brienne stems from genuine respect and understanding. And most importantly, Brienne returns those feelings.
whateverdgaf,
What Tormund feels for brienne obviously can not be love. Nobody can love anybody after just meeting them. I say that from the point of view of a person who has lived with and loved the same person for 35 years and loved them dearly, and would not even look at another for companionship. But he does have electricity for her, that animal magnetism that brings us together in the first place. And I believe that she will share it with him once she gets over her hangups. Lets face it, she is being guilty of what she derided all those boys for doing at her own party. She is judging and disqualifying someone just on face value. I believe that once she gets a reality check and realises just what she has done, she will reassess her beliefs and bias. I do not seek to convince you. This is just simply where I see it going.
the unburdened,
Brienne is not obliged to give Tormund a chance, that those men were not attracted to her is not the problem with their behaviour, but that they defined her worth by how they were not attracted to her.
In the two seasons since they have met, Tormund has not yet cared to notice how is attentions make Brienne uncomfortable. If he had the slightest actual respect for Brienne, he would have taken care to treat her in a way that does not unnerve her.
As for him actually having a shot with her in canon, there is one season left. Jaime and Brienne’s relationship has been built up from Season 2 and has yet to have a resolution. However it ends, it is important to their characters and the plot and the writers are not going to cheapen it by having Brienne suddenly fall in love with Tormund. Especially not when they have had two seasons to establish an actual bond instead of just using Tormund’s obsession as a throwaway joke. If Tormund’s stalker crush was going anywhere meaningful, why was the single time the two actually spoke cut out and we were left with nothing but Brienne walking away in disgust? Because that is the joke and that is all Tormund’s crush is. A joke.
Tormund has no chance with Brienne and Brienne is not obliged to give him one.
I love Nik’s interviews, he is so insightful about his character (as well as being a big Jaime/Brienne fan). It is really reassuring to see that he is enthusiastic about the final season, it seems Jaime has some good material this season. And the fact he is the Captain of the JB ship is promising as well.
Tormund’s gross creeping of Brienne is simply gross. She does not have to accept it, or see another side to him, or grow to like it.
Here, listen to Gwen.
7×1 commentary:
Tormund shows up.
Gwen: Ugg. Oh God. …
Gwen: She’s just not that into him.
“As far as I’m aware, has Brienne displayed anything that says I’m engaged with this? I really want this to happen?” -Gwendoline Christie
“Certainly, I think there’s something of some significance that’s causing Brienne to give [male companionship] some thought, but it isn’t in the form of Tormund I don’t think. I think that possibly Brienne has a slightly more complex relationship with someone else and perhaps that takes up her fullest capacity.” -Gwendoline Christie
Gwen: Do you think she actually likes [Tormund]?
Interviewer: No.
Gwen: Well, there you go!
“Well, let’s not forget Tormund does certainly have his, very well put, creepy smile. He also enjoys masticating food at Brienne. As we saw him really going down on that chicken leg. Didn’t do much for her, did it?” -Gwendoline Christie
“I think maybe it’s the nature of Tormund’s advances, whilst amusing, they’re not really enticing,” Christie added. “She’s a woman that is inspired [by] and attracted to mutual respect.” -Gwendoline Christie
“She seems fairly repelled by Tormund’s strong overtures toward her.” -Gwendoline Christie
the unburdened,
Tormund is called Giantsbane because he made up some tall tales about himself and giants. In the books, he is 40+ years older than Brienne. He’s a side character in another plotline who is old enough to be her grandfather. Brienne is a POV character that has her own arc and an amply foreshadowed romance with Jaime Lannister. GRRM has confirmed via Gwen that he modeled Jaime and Brienne after Beauty and the Beast. Brienne’s story is not with Tormund who she has never met in the books and does not like on the show.
the unburdened,
I agree with everything except of your assumption that Brienne is prejudiced against Tormund as a wildling. IMO, she simply sees his straightforward affection as a mockery: she has already experienced it once, so consciuosly or unconsciously she is unable to trust Tormund yet and it will take him quite some time for him to prove his feelings to her. So, there won’t be any problem to settle thing with Jaime: I really wish him to die in her arms after doing something heroic. Afterwards Brienne can fill his pages in the book and move on to Tormund (dream of spring).
Inga,
There is no world in which the author’s are going to undermine Brienne and Jaime’s carefully developed and genuinely deep bond by having Brienne just move on from Jaime and hooking up with Tormund at the last minute. If they were, they would have made use of the two seasons during which they have known each other for the two to form an actual relationship. Instead they treated the entire thing as a joke, because that is exactly what it is. A Joke. And Brienne’s endgame is not going to resolve in a joke. And the last thing the world needs is another plotline of a woman’s feelings being pushed aside and being treated as either irrelevant or an obstacle, with her just needing to be harassed and worn down into accepting a man for whom she has absolutely no attraction to.
whateverdgaf,
I agree. I have no idea why anyone would actually believe Brienne and Tormund would become a thing. It was played off as a goof. That’s all it was and that’s all it’s ever meant to be. I didn’t think anyone would actually take it seriously.
Mr Derp,
It is like insisting that Sandor has to become a chicken farmer or Pod a world class courtesan.
I am looking forward to seeing any potential interactions between Brienne, Jaime and Tormund. Tormund’s shallow crush could prove a fun foil to Jaime and Brienne’s relationship. And if Jaime overhears Tormund’s comments about the big woman, it could provide a good setup for a Golden Bitch Slap.
Tormund is only clumsy in lovethings, like a fifteen year old boy. In the land where’s always winter there is no time for suavity, one goes straight into the middle.
If Tormund and Brienne won’t fit together in any way, it would be okay for me as well.
It’s only too romantic in my eyes to see Jamie and Brienne together, one of them dying in the arms of the other or whatever (yes, I recognized all the built up!), and I’m not sure, how far GRRM/D&D would walk this romantic line.
Perhaps Jamie dies in Brienne’s arms, and Brienne dies in Tormund’s arms – or Brienne dies in Jamie’s arms and Jamie dies in Tormund’s arms – oops!
Think about twists.
Twist and shout ;o)
cos alpha,
Jaime and Brienne are romantic relationship though, GRRM has confirmed he has based it on Beauty and the Beast. It cannot be too romantic because that is literally their story. And romantic relationships have always had a place in Game of Thrones.
Brienne and Jaime are a romantic plotline, Tormund’s crush is a punchline.
cos alpha,
With Tormund’s history he probably should have been the one mauled by the wight (polar) bear.
“I just got [fooked] by a dead bear.”
“Aye, you did.”
“It’s not as fun as I remembered.”
I’m glad he wasn’t though because I like him much more than I did Thoros. 😀
Inga,
lol yeah! Spring is what it’s all about 🙂
Episode 1 – Call to Arms
Episode 2 – Dragons
Episode 3 – Winter @ Winterfell
Episode 4 – A Song of Ice and Fire
Episode 5 – The Iron Throne
Episode 6 – A Dream of Spring
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