After the weekend, Game of Thrones filming in Spain will move south to less green pastures in Andalusia and Extremadura. In fact, later today we’ll be bringing you a helpful guide with all the relevant dates and spoilers pertaining to these locations, gathered together in a single report for your convenience. But we’re not there yet, as cameras are still rolling on Itzurun Beach. On the last day of filming in Zumaia and the Basque Country, we are witness to a tense scene involving the ironborn.
The Daily Mail once again has photos from the day’s filming, containing big spoilers so turn back if you don’t want to be spoiled for Game of Thrones season 7!
As we can see, Alfie Allen as Theon Greyjoy, is taking a beating from the ironborn men. His sister Yara is still nowhere to be seen. Neither is their uncle Euron. However, there is someone else aside from Alfie Allen that we can recognize: Director Jeremy Podeswa appears to be on set, next to Alfie Allen, as the stunt double is being beaten:
That would place this scene in the season premiere or the finale —That is, the episodes being directed by Podeswa, according to our sources. So, why are the men turning on Theon? Does Yara’s absence have something to do with it? Theorize in the comments! However, if you want to discuss other leaks, the forums are there for a reason.
Poor Theon, he cant catch a break !
We can see Jeremy Podeswa standing next to Alfie, while his double gets the beating. So it’s either 701 or 707.
Somebody please tell me what happens first ..
Poor guy ..
I am taking it that the filming on the 25th was at Dragonstone when Jon and Theon met … but no idea where Theon went after that, I guess interiors?
Missing a spoiler warning, this
jentario,
It’s in the text. Usually, only major spoilers deserve warnings in the title.
Thanks Sue with the help for this article! I was busy somewhere else 🙂
Looks like Yara is toast and if the report of
I predict that she’s gonna take Victarions place on the prow of Eurons ship..and Theon must surely die through self- sacrifice at some point? ?
Better get used to the idea that they’re real, because it seems that way. But even then, there’s no need to panic: I’ll wait to see the story on screen, with the proper context, dialogue and acting, before judging just based on a reddit post and leaked pics.
He can’t catch a break indeed. One the one hand, I like this realistic approach; a broken guy like Theon not being able to easily/instantly inspire devotion or loyalty. On the other hand, I would like to finally see him regain his confidence and become a leading figure.
What could be happening here? Are they beating him up because he did something?
Speculation:
100% this. I believe it will be an amazing season.
Poor Theon! He keeps taking beatings, will he ever be able to redeem himself & come out on the other side?
Maybe Yara is dead and her followers are mad! Poor Theon
Oh nooo! Now I’m worried. He better not die from Random Ironborn #23 beatdown. 🙁 And Yara! If she goes down I hope it’s in a glorious battle… would miss the shit out of Gemma though.
Morgoth,
There’s nothing to save
Maybe Theon runs abandoning his men and they want revenge.
No Euron. No Yara. The other Ironborn are handing Theon a beatdown, but not instantly killing him. I imagine these are the men who went with Yara and Theon to Meereen, and not Euron’s Ironborn. So indeed Yara may be gone/a prisoner and her men are mad with Theon. This is probably Episode 1 (Podeswa), Theon escapes Euron’s ambush, comes back to the other Ironborn, who don’t want him any longer. Thoen limps away to Dragonstone.
I think this is episode 7. It makes no sense for this to be E1.
To be fair, that bit bugs me too. A lot. Same with the “only dragonglass can kill them” thing too, because six previous seasons contradict that point.
But i have a feeling it’s a broken phone situation. Again, until I see it or we get more information, can’t get up in arms about it.
It’s hard to just look at these pics of Them getting beaten, I can only imagine how hard it will be to see it on screen.
Apollo,
That was Damphair not Victarion.
FYI, I don’t know if you’ve noticed, but many of the same men here are to be seen arriving with Theon at the Dragonstone beach, in the reunion scene with Jon. The man Theon is fighting here, is actually standing right behind him in the scene with Jon, if you look at footage posted here the other day.
I am very worried about Yara and sick of Theon. I wish Theon was missing instead of Yara.
dreamshade,
Why? He needs proof for people from the south.
Morgoth,
This.
thats not true. This particular thing is just kinda ridicolous, but in no way butchers a character.
Agree with that.
Back when we got the spoiler that Yara or Theon would(might) be captured in a battle with Euron my thoughts (made up theory) were that Daenerys sends a contingent with Yara/Theon to overthrow Euron and be a force on that coast. I figured Yara was captured and Theon escapes but redeems himself and his name by rescuing her later….
I realize these are just a few pictures with no context so it could simply be Yara’s men pissed off at Theon because he screwed up leading to whatever happens to Yara. However, I do have to wonder if perhaps Euron’s men get a hold of him and end up using him as a messenger with an ultimatum for Daenerys.
True! I stand corrected! ?
Pretty much this, yeah. That’s my opinion as well.
dreamshade,
Somene said it above, I think its just broken phone – Purple Monkey Dishwasher. It was one sentence of what’s probably a multi episode build up.
The NW has fought the WW and Wights, Fist of the First men, Hardhome and Wildlings have been fighting beyond the wall for generations. They are aware of how to defeat the wights, as for the White Walkers – only Jon, Meera and Sam to my recollection have defeated a WW. Valaryrian Steel and Dragonglass, but we’ll see if they make that connection.
Love these pics though, reminds me how he got knocked out after his epic speech back I think S2. Theons got more North in him then Ironborn.
Aguero,
Those things bother me too. There’s very little that doesn’t bother me in there. There are issues with almost all of them.
dreamshade,
Aguero,
Please properly conceal your spoilers. Please.
Tough day at the office, I see.
Jenny,
This, x1000. Some people just want to watch the world burn.
I still cannot accept Theon being the coward Greyjoy again…
All that character development for this?
dreamshade,
It is not just about Cersei. It is about everyone in the south. Jaime, Euron, Dorne, maybe even some people in the Riverlands, Stormlands and the Reach.
he’s also doesn’t tend to shy away form doing things that could be considered stupid, if he thinks it’s his only option.
Irina Stark,
They all laughed at Sir Allister Thorne when he went South in the books with the Wights hand. That needed to be in the show I think, it really drove home how little the people of the South think of the North and the boogeyman.
Aguero,
LOL
Sansa killing him and choosing her family makes perfect sense. I don’t know what you expected?
i only have one problem with the whole thing.
the wall was built to keep out the others.
so how come in them years long winters when people froze in their beds, the sea didn’t freeze and the others just walk round the side
Aguero,
And Dany burning traitors is nothing new. I don’t know why are you acting so surprised?
taim,
I know it sounds a bit bizarre, but I’ve come to realize since Season 6 aired that nobody despises Jon more than his own fans do. He’s either a 24/7 BAMF, or he’s completely useless. There is no middle ground.
mau,
Exactly. It makes perfect sense. I don’t get why people tend to call an arc bad just because things don’t happen the way they want to.
So, first I also had the thought that this had to be from episode 1 (Podeswa) and might show
BUT you have to take into account that
1. the guy beating Theon up was also present in the scene where Theon landed in DS and first met Jon – compare for example this PICTURE . Both Theon and this guy wear exactly the same clothes (well, that doesn’t prove too much as I suppose Ironborn do not sail with big trunks full of backup clothing as dragon queens do 😉 ).
2. They shot this scene directly in front of those unique Flysch stone formations – so I’m quite sure this scene takes place in Dragonstone.
But if this is another Theon scene at DS, when does it happen then? In episode 1? Then Theon and his men would have landed in DS, had some violent discussions, left DS again and returned later to meet with Jon…
Or maybe it happens after the meeting with Jon, which would place it around episode 3 or 4. For example, it could show a reaction of the Ironborn to 1) Theon being treated like a dog by the KitN, or 2) Theon not being able to get the help from Jon / Dany he had promised his men (to save or avenge his sister).
So for me it is hard to think of a scenario that would place this scene in either episode 1 or episode 7. This might be another piece of the puzzle that requests us to question if those director / episode correlations reported are really 100&% correct…
Your sequence of events sounds about right to me. If Theon getting the crap kicked out of him is in episode 1, I’m surprised (spoilers and leaks, I guess)
If your timeline is correct, I wonder why Theon gets an Ironborn escort to Dragonstone? If Yara’s men are done with him why not dump him in the sea instead of taking him to his last possible ally?
That’s interesting! So Alfie Allen’s trip to Belfast was simply a trick, and this means that many other things may be tricks as well (not speaking of actual scenes, but more about presence or absence of actors or directors in certain filming locations). D&D are playing the game of lies at full scale.
The Ironborn scene is worth to think about. At first, it looks like it can be happening after Theon’s encounter with Jon: maybe Jon says something/spills out some secret which outrages the Ironborn as well? But then it has to be Ep 7 with Podeswa directing, which makes no sense at all. So, maybe it’s Ep 1 and Theon is bringing news that Yara is captured?
BTW, I have rethought my theories, I could have been wrong indeed.
Dragonston could make sense as Dany’s landing spot, if the Tyrell and Dornish forces were ordered to march straight to King’s Landing: if Dany intends to meet her allies at her ultimate destination point, she could make a short stop at Dragonstone before her final jump. It will be a mistake, but an understandable one perhaps.
But then the further course of the war becomes harder to predict. The Sand Snakes will be outsmarted as well, etc. It just hit me that Varys and the Unsullied were seen only in the scene or scenes filmed allegedly for the first episode; afterwards they disappear from Dany’s entourage and more importantly it will be Tyrion, not Varys going with Davos to KL on a highly risky mission, which will almost claim his life. So, in general the outline kind of remains the same: Dany will run into trouble, and Jon will have to help her inflicting troubles on himself, and I still hope that KL will fall in the result of the public revolt, because it kind of makes sense: the Seven Kingdoms is a result of conquest built on lies, if it intends to survive it has to be re-established on a more reliable foundation, otherwise who cares who is the next conqueror. But there is still a lot of questions.
Rhaenys Stark,
Because every leak sounds stupid for people with no imagination.
They should go and read leaks for Hardhome or S6E9 and S6E10.
elybe,
i’m not sure despise is a fair comment. he’s a nice lad, his hearts in the right place, he’s honourable and he want to do what is best for everyone in the long run and has no fear of putting himself in peril if that’s required to get there, it’s just sometimes he’s not that tactically astute.
it makes him more human, he’s imperfect and there’s always the possibility that he’s going to do something too far and get himself killed.
I don’t know how much more I can stand to watch Theon getting tormented. Even more so than in the books, Alfie Allen’s extraordinary acting has gotten me totally absorbed in this character’s redemption arc. Keeping my fingers crossed that he sticks around until the bitter end, and if/when Theon does get killed, he gets to do something heroic.
The supposed leaks seem indeed more or less dumb. ON THE PAPER. I remember reading the spoilers for S06E10 and thinking “what a bore” and then seeing it on screen it was AWESOME
Yara was becoming an interesting characther…I miss her already!
aci1970,
and how many times last year did you sit waiting for the next bit you knew was coming and then think oh wow so that’s how they did it, that was fantastic.
me personally most of last season and none of them looked like what i’d envisioned in my head beforehand apart from a certain giant trashing a door
elybe,
That’s an intriguing thought! Possible.
I hope Theon arriving at Dragonstone comes much later than the scene reported here. It’s hard to see Theon’s breakdown go any further! If a totally broken Theon decides to join up with Daenerys and her team of formerly broken characters, it would be a continuation of the theme that her closest companions are former slaves, eunuchs, dwarves who were disavowed by their families, etc. It would be in keeping with that if Theon finally found a place for himself with them – he deserves redemption.
Not sure at all. Perhaps after the beatdown, the Ironmen cool down and realize that ALL of them stand a chance to survive if they go appeal to their last possible ally? I mean, Euron wouldn’t just kill Theon, he would kill every last Ironborn who went with Yara. Perhaps that’s what motivates them?
Mawk,
And what were people of North doing against these calls from the NW.
Even most of the NW doesnt care about WW..
The series starts with Ned not believing the tale of NW brother..
Thank god for the wights that attacked jeor and jon because then it would have taken seasons to even NW believing it this..
elybe,
Well said I think this is what the most of the problem is ..they are more critical than his haters are .
knowone,
Pop over to reddit sometime. I think “despise” is actually an understatement. As for “tactically astute,” based on what? One battle in Season 6? He was portrayed as the only tactically sound mind when preparing for the defense of the Wall against the wildlings, but I get that with Jon one bad decision instantly overwrites everything that came before it. I’ve figured out that much. I’m curious, though, what would the smart tactical move be in a scenario where – leak alert:
Totally agree.
Still hoping this turns out to be a loada crap as so many other plot points just don’t make sense.
Poor Theon – if this is indeed in the first episode of Season 7, what a letdown from what seemed to be his redemption and renewal arc that started in episode 1 of Season 6. I was never a huge Theon fan before Season 6, but watching him get Sansa across the river, then bravely stand up to Ramsay’s men to save her, made me much more of a fan.
You can’t fault Alfie’s acting at any point, he has been excellent the whole series, without a doubt. I have even posted that I thought he should have been nominated for an Emmy. But the character, ye gods, pathetic creature, what a depressing turn of events this is playing out to be. Yes, in whatever episode this happens, it looks like he is either being accused of cowardice for abandoning Yara, or has presented his men with an option of doing something they choose not to do. It’s probably about Yara, with the irony being that he probably tried valiantly to save her, or she ordered him to save himself. Tsk, tsk.
Couldn’t agree more. Alfie has been simply outstanding from S2…and while the other actors have been in Croatia, Spain etc he’s been trussed up to a wooden cross for an entire season, tortured and mutilated. He deserves an Emmy over any other actor in the show IMGHO.
I do suspect (hope) that Theon will play a huge part in the story though and will completely redeem himself.
I thought we weren’t supposed to discuss reported elsewhere leaks here? I like the photos because they don’t give us a synopsis but a treat, but I’d rather not read about the veracity of a leaked synopsis here.
Even “oh no the leaks seem to be true/false!” is too much.
I’m not a book reader, but over the seasons, that scene of Ned Stark, Lord of Winterfell, beheading a Night’s Watch man for running scared because he had seen WWs and Wights has long stayed with me. No one in the North believed in WWs at that time. The season 6 ender showed that not a whole lot of people in the North were overly concerned with WWs even at that point!! To date, only the Wildlings have lost people due to the WWs. I wonder how big a price, the North specifically, will pay by the end?
mau,
That sounds slightly more reasonable, but only slightly. As I understand it, the dead can’t pass the wall. How would you get a wight/white walker past the wall?
BunBunStark,
Maybe they don’t have anywhere else to go, not with Euron in control of the Iron Islands.
elybe,
The not tactically astute bit I was thinking of personally, was bringing the wildlings into castle black rather than stationing them in the other forts, so rubbing the watchmen nose in it, rather than easing things in slowly.
The other bit you mention is the most sensible path and sticks him smack bang in the firing line which is completely in character. It needs doing its the best way and he’s going to do it himself, but could as usual get him killed
Jack Bauer 24,
Why wouldn’t she?
This is definitely episode 7. Euron kicked their assess and now the house of cards is coming down.
I feel I’ve gone into an alternate reality that consists of uncorroborated Bigfoot sighting only.
Totally. It’s all she has left.
Aguero,
LF is Sansa’s antagonist and nothing more. How he should die in your opinion?
That’s a great question. Sometimes I feel the north may be overrun….that is if they don’t wisen up.
If there’s politicking up north that undermines Jon’s effort to prepare, then that could bring disaster.
mau,
Regarding your ideas about Lady Olenna:
I can easily envision Olenna preparing her poisonous escape method way before she’s cornered by Jaime. He comes to take her back to Cersei for punishment. She clasps her cup; he has no idea what’s in it; she starts to brutally taunt him about being a terrible father and a worse King’s Guard. She’ll circle around him as she goads him about being too clueless to protect either of his sons or his Kings, making it easy for her to kill Joffrey right under his nose. Yeah, I can hear her words now. It will be a splendid ending for Olenna, causing a last bit of damage to a Lannister with her sharp tongue. Whatever way her end goes down, Dame Diana will handle it in splendid style, of that I’m sure.
knowone,
Politicking was never his strong suit, so no argument there.
Anon,
They passed the Wall in S1E7 and E8.
Ah, Theon, never lucky for long.
Thronetender,
I agree. It can be a great scene. And it will be. They are both great actors.
Clob,
I am also on board with your theory. Yara being captured has always sounded weird to me: she told Theon to commit a suicide, if he was not able to live with dignity, so I imagine she would rather kill herself, than surrender to Euron.
On the other hand, the men who were beating Theon had been with him in the scene with Jon as well. So, maybe Jon said something the Ironborn didn’t know and that made them as mad as Jon was. But then why Podeswa was directing? The only clear thing in this story is that D&D are tricking us in cold blood.
mau,
I think you’re talking about the bodies the NW hauled through the wall that turned during the night?
They had to come through the wall before they turned, I believe.
How would a dead body – already animated – get by the wall.
CORRECTION: only one of the two bodies turned…which is another mystery. Why didn’t they both turn?
No caps in brackets
Sean C.,
I’d love to find out, but from what I read, there’s no hard – or soft – record of the leak. There’s what commenters remember and report.
Kay,
I think they will be paying a heavy price and that its most likely North will be overrun by WW if the wall fails..
Its not just ned ( to his credit he did ask about the guy he beheaded to benjen)..
Osha advised robb that he is marching on the wrong side ans he should be moving north..he ignored it ..
Not a single lord of north turned to wall to help the NW
When the NW needed to be saved it was southern king that came to the rescue..
So if north and its king go around spreading the news about WW ..just don’t expect the people in south to just put all their work aside and believe in them..
Has anyone considered that the iron born beating the on may be the thing that leads to him becoming their leader,
They know what has happened to him, they don’t respect him and they have seen him run, they consider him worthless, but at some point in the beating he cracks and goes batshit crazy. Punching gouging biting ears off the lot.
This makes them realise that he’s broken but no matter how much they punch him the only way to beat him is to kill him. So as the only greyjoy left that they can follow and all other options leading to a quick death, he gets a small and grudging respect and the on gets the realisation he can do something for the men there
I’m so glad you said this. It was the first instance of Ned being honorable, Ned using an opportunity to teach his sons, but ultimately, Ned being totally clueless to what was right before his eyes. We didn’t know it then, but there would be so many more of those clueless instances that would end up getting him killed and his family scattered.
Remember when Arya was chasing the cats, and overheard Varys and Illyrio talking about a plot? Arya ran right to him, with specific information that could have been learned only by her actually hearing it, not something a little girl could make up. He did nothing, it hardly phased him. I wasn’t a book reader at the time, but even I knew that ignoring such info wasn’t going to end well. Oh well, we can only hope better for Jon. At least he acts when he needs to – that scene of him after the battle at the Wall, striding across the snow, intending to kill Mance, will stay with me for a long time. And the words … “Yes, it’s a bad plan. What’s YOUR plan?” I’m sorry if my delving into past plot lines is way off-topic. There have been such great scenes in this show, sometimes, when I’m reminded of them, it’s hard to resist not replaying them again. And it’s such a long wait til next summer …
Oh, but to be more on-topic, yeah, what’s with the North being so very reluctant to believe the stories, when they keep coming in regularly? Hmmm, I guess it’s like climate change today, huh?
BunBunStark,
Maybe ,during battle, Theon became Reek again.Yara told him to do something but Theon (Reek) got scared and that played a part in Yara’s loss or something like that?Also it is possible that Yara told her men “If i fall ,you follow my brother”.So the men loyal to her follow Theon but the are not happy about it or Theon becomes Reek after loosing Yara and the ironmen are like :” Get your shit together Greyjoy!!!”
elybe,
No option b isn’t smarter its both dumber and more cowardly and that’s not jon
Aguero,
Dude… cover this shit up!
mau,
Grail King,
This!
And then Sansa “plays” the Vale lords and her cousin like Petyr.Also it will be sweet if they use the tears of Lys (same poison that killed Jon Arryn.).”Poor lord Baelish died of fever, the northern climate was too match for him” .He is game ends the same way it began .
Those are some great points! I hope you are right.
mau,
Littlefinger may die in many ways. My first preference would be seeing hip ripped to pieces by wights after outsmarting everyone and causing the collapse of the Wall for more chaos. My second preference would be Cersei showing him that power is power. But one way or another, I hope that Sansa will play a part in his downfall.
Another great scene! thanks for reminding me of it. It really plays into her taking the Throne, doesn’t it? We were all surprised, but her attitude was always there. I like your ideas about LF end. An ironic end might be best, after he thinks he’s outsmarted everyone, as you said.
Jack Bauer 24,
She’s going to berate Jaime and go out in style. Her style.
knowone,
Good point. One way or another Theon is primed to become their leader somehow.
Hodor!
Jack Bauer 24,
No just a gem on a ring, or necklace, or ear ring
Grail King,
I think it is a public execution.
Aguero,
You don’t even know the proper context
Rhaenys Stark,
The iron born are rapists and thieves. They aren’t going to sit down and ask theon what happened. They have 0 respect for him, even before the battle. Yara (ashra in books) was the only person who backed him 100 %. How could he save Sansa on show and abandon his sister. She was his only family. She tried to save him when no one else would. He doesnt even believe he deserves to live. He WANTS to die so why would he jump over board to save himself? He would rather drown. I am only basing my views on past seasons. Reek will emerge when he gets beaten i believe. Reek will always be part of theon.but when i found out onthis site about the capture, i had a feeling who it would be.
Okay, that makes sense. It would unbelievable if Euron allowed the Ironborn who followed Yara to live, so going to Dragonstone is self-preservation. They just gotta kick Theon’s ass first, lol.
Thronetender,
Thronetender,
I love your Ollena prediction… I can totally see this happening. You just know that D&D will wanna give the QOT an outstanding exit and Diana Rigg will simply nail it as she always does.
The cast is still in Bilbao.
Kit promised to the fans that he’ll take photos with them tomorrow ?
https://www.instagram.com/p/BMKXH3sBxHo/
https://twitter.com/MsAliceBriel/status/792480058472538112
https://twitter.com/MsAliceBriel/status/792479440328613892
Asoiaf fan,
You are right. The only reason why Theon would chose to live rather than die would be to avenge Yara (and their father) and that might be Yara’s last command as well. So, Theon just like Cersei and Ollena might become another person choosing to fight without looking forwards to survival. This might be important for the end-game. I totally expect Theon to go on some real suicide mission which will have a major impact on the course of war.
I deleted all the comments with uncovered leaked spoilers.
Be careful.
No CAPS in your tags.
This makes me very happy, for various reasons. 🙂
there must be a big battle for the throne this season, they have the budget and people are expecting a huge battle, I mean, if we had such a huge production just for Winterfell, it would be a bump if there is pure preparation and expectative and then… Dany and her team are like “you know what, lets do this later”. There is no other option. The Lannisters must die or at least be defeated, they have sat on the throne for 7 years now, it’s time for a change, other wise it will be utterly boring and Dany’s plot will loose all meaning (plus, why would they include maggy the frog prophecy if Cercei its gonna stay at the IT??) ) . Daenerys must take the IT this season. It’s the only logical conclusion. Any other option it’s gonna be a mess. Next season has to be completely focused on the WW and the war for the dawn, we had enough of the political aspect of the show, it has to end this season.
dreamshade,
I love you. I can’t even bear how much I agree with you. The leaked plot is an absolue clusterf*ck and I hate everything about it except the
part, that I’m okay with and it makes sense. The rest is just absolute nonsense. I hope to God they’re fake. We’ll know for sure next week, if
My life will be ruined but at least I’ll know and be at peace. Sort of. Kind of. Not really.
Grail King,
I had a problem with a locked up tablet while trying to sort that out over bearing autocorrect caused it in the first place.
Thanks for sorting it
Could be, we know in book:
Asoiaf fan,
What if that scene is after he meets with Jon and Jon tells him what happen to Rickon. The very name of Ramsay is enough to make him Reek again.
https://twitter.com/MichellePerSan/status/792486412532744194 Photo of the cast. They’re in some place called BIME!?
Ellie,
Irina Stark,
Chill, please. Your life won’t be ruined, I promise. And discuss the leaks in the forums, not here, please.
Anon,
The dead nw man that attacked LC Mormont was already a wight when brought through the wall. There were comments made about his eyes changing to the color blue. Still, it’s possible they can’t physically cross themselves pass the wall.
Ellie,
I don’t think Cersei is stupid enough to send her forces to meet Dany’s in the field and also she is holding an entire city and it’s people as hostages so i don’t expect a big battle in King’s Landing.Maybe Caterly Rock? (“Take his home,take his gold ,take his power” Robb was right about that.) and claim the lannister army in Tyrion’s name?
ramses,
Yes but the wight’s hand was just a corpse’s hand by the time Thorn reached KL.I think they need the cold and the WW’s power to stay alive (i might be wrong).
mau,
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MOD EDIT: To the forum with leak talk, please. Especially when it is this explicit.
Geralt of Rivia,
And the heir’s name is hardly a secret.(So the mother knew a that before she named the baby).
Thronetender,
While squeezed into a leather catsuit ala Emma Peel in The Avengers mayhaps? 😉
konna,
Yea, I think the NK’s influence is what turns the dead into wights. Otherwise the rest of Westoros would’ve witnessed their unburnt dead becoming wights.
leaky
Also the people who complain about Littlefinger playing with teenagers. What else is he supposed to do when those children and teenager are the central figures to his plots? Without Sweetrobin, he’ll be nothing and if he wanted to play Sansa, well, he’d need to use the cards that he has been dealt.
Irina Stark,
Sorry, Luka, for answering here, but that doesn’t involve any speculation based on you know what so I hope it’s OK. But if not, please feel free to delete.
Jenny,
I know, I was just saying that if the show has been building Daenerys invasion and her whole development as a ruler for years, and then don’t deliver, for me it doesn’t make sense and it’s pure bs. And they have built Mad Queen Cercei for the past seasons, and now that she has lost the only thing that kept her relatively sane, now Cercei, of all people, it’s gonna be reasonable and put her own interests aside? Doesn’t sound realistic, at all, just because it goes against everything they have built for the past 6 years. If you like it, great, I have a different opinion
Apollo,
“i love you Cat” ,I want him to be delusional in his final moments and mistake Sansa for Catelyn. And then Sansa plays along and says :”I only loved one man my entire life ,only one ….NED!!” .Yeah am hyped!!! [/ spoiler]
Inga,
The “political aspects” having to end so that everyone can concentrate on the big war is something that has become something of a fact lately. IMO, we cannot say that it will play out that way really and personally, I would hope that the politics we’ve followed for several seasons and books will not just abruptly end when the Wall falls. So IMO, no, politics should continue to be a central part of the story.
konna,
It doesn’t make sense.
Firannion,
Fully agree.
Ellie,
konna,
Maybe the battle won’t be at KL but I’m sure we will have a big battle for the IT, they are at war, of course their forces are gonna meet at some point, and sooner or later Daenerys and her forces are going to take KL and the IT, for me it would make no sense if they continue to drag this IT thing for another season, specially with so few episodes left.
Geralt of Rivia,
Rosa,
I couldn’t agree more. Theon is tolerable at this point but I love Yara and would prefer that he cops it over his worthier sister.
I’m sick of the arguments that imply Yara ought be captured because “Theon has suffered enough”. He would never have been taken prisoner had he not have been lording it over Winterfell (where he should never have been in the first place) when the Boltons took the castle. He also killed two farm boys and Ser Rodrick.
I don’t see why any of this should be Yara’s problem or that she should pay the price of her brother’s misdeeds because he has already “suffered” from his self-inflicted greed.
I hope she doesn’t die in season 7. And I’m okay with Theon dying in a rescue attempt because that is the least he owes her after her frequent loyalty to him.
Ellie,
I agree .What i meant is that i expect a siege (and a small battle elsewhere,cutting Cersei from her power sources at CR) instead of a great battle.
And them maybe a riot with the mob opening the gates for Dany and Jaime doing his thing 😉
konna,
Apollo,
I want her to say to him : Given the opportunity what do we do to those who’ve hurt the ones we love?
Vally,
Well, not completely gone, off course, but I don’t think it will be the central part of the story for the last season when they have THE war to take care of. The political aspect should be solved for the most part when season 8 begins. Because if whoever sit at the throne by that time has to deal with a divided kindom and the WW with so few episodes left… It would be messy.
Apocalyptic queen,
But if you are Euron you go for the strongest (Yara) .Theon is a lost cause ,Euron won’t bother himself with him.
mau,
Oh i like that! I really like that !!She needs to be as smug as possible!
It isn’t just to do with how strong they are, IMO (though that is part of it). The reality is that Yara can continue the Balon’s line, whereas Theon cannot.
Ellie,
Agree.
For one thing, how can Dany and Jon trust that she isn’t going to attend that meeting with the sole purpose of exploiting the opportunity to wipe out Jon and Dany in one fell swoop?
This is the woman who burned all her enemies alive in a building and would probably do so again given the opportunity. I would also consider them both to be spectacularly stupid if they took any of her promises to provide reinforcements, seriously.
I thought Dany and Jon would make a deal – Jon promised to support Dany’s claim to the Iron Throne in return for help in defeating White Walkers. Nothing else makes much sense. By this point, both of them should be done with Cersei.
Luka Nieto,
Can you just delete all the accounts that keep bringing up these goddamn “leaks” instead? 😉
Apocalyptic queen,
Absolutely, plus Dany has Tyrion at her side, Tyrion who knows Cersei better than anyone, I can’t conceive that he would allow Daenerys and Jon to attend this meeting, never,not in a million years.
Alba Stark,
Also he is an “outsider” (raised by wolves) and nobady want’s to follow him.
We see only a handful of ironmen and a boat ,where is the fleet? I suspect that after Yara is captured the majority of the remaining forces turn their cloaks(yes a stupid move because the other side has dragons but the ironborn are not famous for their wits) and only Yara’s closest friends and allies return with Theon. That would make Dany’s war for the IT more interesting and less one-sided .
konna,
I do agree that his target will be Yara, because of the reasons you have stated.
She was also Balon’s choice of heir and has shown herself to be a leader in her own right, so she is arguably, Euron’s rival.
My gripe is with those who continue to persist that she should be captured, at the expense of Theon’s character development and so he can head house Greyjoy again, even though he has done nothing to deserve that accolade
Ramsay’s 20th Good Man,
I can’t, but Sue can and she often does ban those who break the rules.
Ellie,
Yes, Tyrion knows better than anyone what Cersei is capable of – having had him stitched up for Joffrey’s murder and having indulged Joffrey while he was busy torturing people and tormenting Sansa.
Very odd if he doesn’t counsel them against this.
I agree, this is really pissing me off. I guess we have to resign ourselfs to the fact we cannot read through the comments anymore. Seems like just about everyone read them.
YEAH!! Please Sue start banning people. I am afraid to read through the comments.
How often do they need to be told to discuss THAT in the forum and not the filming spoilers?
There’s a discussion in reddit right now about wheter that guy behind the man with red shirt is Miguel Sapochnik or not. I confess he looks too much like him… Can someone confirm that? We still don’t have confirmation for who’s directing some episodes…
Apocalyptic queen,
For me he redeemed himself for betraying Robb when he saved Sansa .He redeemed himself for killing two boys(because he wanted to look cool to his new “friends”) after he suffered a fate worse that death (far worse than death actually) .He redeemed himself for screwing Yara’s plan to save him by supporting her .That’s it he has nothing else to do except die for his sister and rest in peace. But no he can’t be no one’s leader and no one’s lord. The “Theon” who was meant to do all that is dead and he is never coming back.Ser Rodrick was right about him “Gods help you Theon Greyjoy , now you are truly lost” .God that was a haunting line ,still gives me chills.
We know of every director involved this season, even if we don’t know who amongst them will direct episodes three and four yet.
Agree – there is also that. I meant that Yara could be perceived as a greater long-term threat to Euron as a result of her ability to produce Balon’s direct heirs; Theon does not have this. In the short-term, Yara is the one that was campaigning (for want of a better word) for ruler of the Iron Islands rather than Theon. Theon spoke for Yara rather than himself, and that will stand in the memories of the Ironborn. Overall, it makes sense for Euron to target Yara rather than Theon
Apocalyptic queen,
I think you’re getting outrageously confused there between leading house grey joy and leading the remnant iron born still loyal to yara and bound for death otherwise.
The first, no chance yet, the second a possibility, and after that it will be an irrelevance, also were yara to die then dany has no reason to honour their agreement, even one dragon would rip through their fleet, and they’re no force at all on land, so a future of rape and pillage isn’t an option
Luka Nieto,
I was only semi-joking, by the way.
Even when people cover their comments, the next person will follow up with a comment which basically reveals what was underneath the spoiler tags regardless.
I’m genuinely considering stopping coming to the site these days because of the incessant discussion of these leaks.
Seeing spoiler pics from set and casting/location info to speculate about is one thing.
But having leaks that purport to reveal the actual plot being gradually revealed through careless commenting is just a whole next level of spoilers.
Keep all the leak talk in the forums. All of it. Most of you are not consistent enough in your spoiler coding, and labeling of it, to have ANY leak discussion in comments section and frankly it’s ruining the pre-season for a lot of people. Take it to the forums (which Oz has fixed, btw, for those of you who were running into glitches) where we have threads where you can post up a storm up about this stuff. People who repeatedly spoil all over the place have been banned before, and I have no problem doing it again. It’s tough but necessary. Thanks!
I just read that “HBO will invest 20 million dollars in the battle of Game of Thrones at Malpartida de Caceres” and aparently Daenerys will be involved. It says it will take 22 days of filming. So we are having a big battle!! 🙂
link: http://www.elperiodicoextremadura.com/noticias/caceres/hbo-invertira-20-millones-dolares-batalla-juego-tronos_972412.html
Luka Nieto,
Why ban those who brought up the leaks? Aren’t these posting of pics that you constantly do “leaks” as well? What differentiates the two? The fact that you weren’t the ones who found the script leaks? If you would have found the script leaks, then that would have been okay, right? #hypocrisy
Newbietothegame,
Yeah, I think people have been incredibly selfish and rude to keep bringing those discussions here.
I don’t understand why they can’t discuss them at Reddit or wherever else they read them, instead of forcing them on those of us who weren’t interested in the first place over here on this site.
We didn’t “find” either. It’s not hypocrisy. It’s about not screwing up the pre-season for those in the community who just want to be teased with what can be learnt from filming spoilers, and not by leaks of the whole season. If you want to discuss the leaks, do so in the forums, please 😉
Ellie,
That’s just based on speculation by Javi Marcos from L7R, as the article itself admits, despite the provocative title.
knowone,
So who rules the Ironborn after the war ?(If Yara dies) Theon? or Dany leaves them to choose their liege lord?(like Aegon did) . Theon cannot further the Greyjoy line , that is going to be an issue in the future.
konna,
It is but as they’ve always had somewhat of an elected leader in the first place not an insurmountable one
Particularly if euron is turned into a small charcoal briquette
Kay: “I’m not a book reader, but over the seasons, that scene of Ned Stark, Lord of Winterfell, beheading a Night’s Watch man for running scared because he had seen WWs and Wights has long stayed with me. No one in the North believed in WWs at that time. The season 6 ender showed that not a whole lot of people in the North were overly concerned with WWs even at that point!!”
Kay, I happen to be slowly re-watching Season 1 and have gotten to Ep 5. I think Ned gradually realised that maybe the WW rumour was possibly true. When Ned told Bran, “A madman sees what he sees,” Will’s avowal was the very first hint of trouble up North. Right afterwards came the clearer omen of finding the dead direwolf, over which Ned exchangesd worried look with (Jory? Rodrik?). Later, he mentions that all sorts of odd things are occurring. IIRC, this is when he says, “Winter is coming” for the first time. Most likely, had he stayed in Winterfell and been functioning as Warden of the North, he would have examined omens and signs further and eventually shared the information. But Robert had him haring off to KL, where Ned’s investigative skills and deductions got him killed.
Grail King: “It’s he who passes the sentence swings the sword mentality; but Sansa has never shown skills with weapons, (though I like her to use her needle or poison his ass) and the other is it makes Arya subservient to Sansa , though Arya may also want her sister’s hands kept clean so Arya could make it look like an accident .”
Arya subservient? Only when the sun rises in the west. Arya is Sansa’s superior in every respect except prettiness, height, and age.
Arya’s quick thinking, courage, physical prowess, loyalty, and abilities (including face-changing) make her nobody’s bitch. The sisters might collaborate and Arya would swing the sword, but she’ll do it because SHE wants to.
Though I don’t really expect theon to be around after the war either What better way to end a redemption arc than having him go from complete zero to true hero in some grand self sacrificing fashion.
So if the resin he’s getting a beating here is because his sis is dead, then no ruler of the 7 kingdoms is going to want basket case grey joy, ruling a whole troublesome lot of his own, raiding up and down the coast, he’s not suitable clan leader material for a quiet life after an epoch ending war.
At this point, I just want Theon to shank a motherfucker. He’s redeemed himself as much as anyone could have in this universe, enough.
The day Arya kills anyone at the behest of Sansa is the day I would be truly disappointed for the first time in her character. I’d rather see Littlefinger triumph.
Luka Nieto,
You might just want to have a closer look at those pictures and not dismiss it outright. Is it possible your source did not know? Just because he isn’t on the directors list, does not mean he isn’t directing. Just means they kept it secret.
Sansaknee,
Hey, I would love it if he were involved 🙂
I’m just saying there’s no evidence for it. I can’t see him in the picture, but if better quality pictures of this shoot show up, I’ll be sure to check them out and see if I can recognize Sapochnik.
HBO has no reason to hide the fact of someone directing an episode this season. Sapochnik is not a season 7 director- that was an official announcement from the network. (http://watchersonthewall.com/season-7-directors-announced) The season 7 guys are Mylod, Podeswa, Shakman and Taylor.
Whether Sapochnik was passing through Spain and decided to visit the set, you can debate that among yourselves. He may well return in season 8. Obviously everyone wants it to happen.
Preach!! Arya Stark is not Sansa’s to command.
The showrunners decided to keep in the scene from the books where Theon has sex with the ship’s captain’s daughter en route to Pyke. I suppose that might’ve been just some ‘sexposition’ explaining what a salt wife is, but that doesn’t seem like a significant enough point to bother with. I think it more likely that the stage was being set for a Greyjoy bastard to pop up, ready to be legitimized when an heir is needed.
I think he will try to convince the ironborn to rescue yara without dany’s help as dany will deny to help theon at this point. The ironborn will not listen to him and that will cause some dispute between them.
Yara 🙁
knowone,
Anyway, this is the last I will say on the matter here and I will carry on in the forum.
I have to say that I am a bit confused as to what we can and cannot discuss here though. Are we allowed to speculate on the plot that these filming sightings might depict?? Or is that considered spoiler-ish too? Genuine question.
She should say every line he ever said to her, ending with:
I’m Sansa Stark eldest daughter of Lord Eddard and Lady Caitlyn; the blood of Winterfell then kill him or sentence him to death.
You do realize that we were talking on why people would be upset if Arya did the kill?
But it wouldn’t be the first time the show runners changed a character…..Sansa never bent the knee, yet they had her do it in the show.
i have watched the posts also….and i cant distinguish whats allowed and whats not allowed in here….so i just stfu
because also…that if i ever posted something on here…i would always get ignored
seems odd but obvious once u see how passionate u ppl are
its a bedtime story for adults
only lil kids throw a tanny if things dont go their way
i want to enjoy the final 13 episodes cuz after that…no matter what they do…it will never be the same……spinoffs will never work unless its an add on to when it finished….ppl already know the history of dunk and egg….we want …well i…want to see what happens after….like arya traveling west of westoros
i think the yanks would love it if in the penultimet episode of season 8…she leaves westoros on a boat travelling west….and during the very last episode..the boat she left on is spotted nearing new york
still in her stark clothes
Arya in new york in 2018 would be a hoot of a series
from the very first episode of game of thrones…..arya wanted to be the best at everything she did
besides needlepoint*
LOLOLOLOL
It’s the same guy beating theon in all the photos, big balding guy, which leads me to believe it’s something personal between this guy and theon. My thought is that he had some personal relation with the guys theon tricked at Moat Cailin. Perhaps he’s the brother of adrack humple or even Ralph Kenning (who was played flawlessly by the way)
Apocalyptic queen,
jymion,
You are allowed and encouraged to speculate, of course. I think it’s clear, isn’t it? Only spoilers about the whole season from the leak must be discussed in the forums. Other spoilers we know from filmimg are allowed here. And speculation too, obviousy! Speculation doesn’t even constitute a spoiler.
Thanksforputtingdamphairintheshow!,
Good idea. My thought has also been that Jon will spill some information previously unknown to the Ironborn and that will lead to Theon’s beating. For instance, Theon shows up after long absence, but everyone knows that Yara’s ships were decimated. So, Jon meets him. Theon says that he wants to speak with Dany, but Jon responds that he won’t let Theon anywhere near Dany and that he can’t be trusted after what he did to his own men at Moat Cailin, and then the Ironborn who have not been aware of Theon’s role in the fall of Moat Cailin overreact. Theon will have a hard time convincing them as well as Jon and Dany to trust him again against all odds.
In general, I feel like this season might be very much about trusting people who made major mistakes in the past: Melisandre fits into a similar arch and Jon had a bit of that in 609-610.
However, I still wonder why Jeremy Podeswa is involved in that scene with Theon, because now way it fits in Ep 1, and Ep 7 is not likely either. Maybe, the directors will be filming stories rather than episodes? Or maybe Jeremy Podeswa’s presence was just a trick, similarly as the alleged Alfie Allen’s departure to Belfast on the eve of the filming? Something worth to think about.
Inga,
Have you read the multiple reports of who is directing which episode? Why would they change a 6 yr formula, or stage these shots just to trick people? Simply so that it fits in with your theories?
If Podeswa is there, then that means this scene is in episode 1 or episode 7. So that means that this is likely post sea battle in episode 1 or another venture later in the season. Podeswa isn’t there to have a cappuccino and watch his pals larking around on the beach.
Allens sighting in Belfast was a mistake (or a lie). Jon wouldn’t know about Moat Cailin.
So you need to change some (most) of your theories because the structure of filming the show simply isn’t gonna adapt to suit them.
Apologies if this has been beat to death already (rising stronger!), but do we think Jon is going to know who he is when he meets Dany?
The same Ironborn who is beating Theon is at the front of the boat when Theon meets Jon and steps forward as if like a bodygaurd when Jon grabs him. Theon is actually physically tough as nails. Remember the tub scene where you see all the scars on his body. My guess is during this beating he snaps and actually fights back and wins. The only way to physically beat him is to kill him. Thus he gains the Ironborn’s respect as a true hardass.
Also, it’s not out of the realm of possibility that the Captain’s ugly-toothed daughter Theon banged in Season2 shows up in Oldtown with his bastard spawn next Season, thus giving Theon an heir.
If not a heroic, sacrificial death that has a major impact on the plot/war, Theon is going to live through the whole story. Mark it. What Is Dead May Never Die is HIS character arc.
Firannion,
you might well have a point with that. it had completely slipped my mind about the salt wife
This a tricky one. I hope he knows by then, I think it would make the visit with Auntie Dany a lot easier. But this is GoT, sooooo…..
Stranger’s Pooper Scooper,
LOL, your name reminded me to clean up the backyard…..just sayin’
But how would Jon know the details of what went down at Moat Cailin? The only survivors of that encounter were Bolton soldiers. He may have done some interrogation of prisoners following the BotB, but I don’t imagine that he’d have drilled down to that level of detail. Torture isn’t his style. And if he did find out Theon’s role, surely Sansa would make it clear that he had been Ramsay’s thoroughly cowed catspaw.
Firannion,
They just wanted us to know Theon is an ass (like every other scene with Theon being Theon) ,so him betraying Robb won’t look unrealistic .”The guy has a shitty character of course he will be a traitor (because of his arrogance and stupidity ). “
Irina Stark,
Hahahh your life will be ruined… wow. Child you have no life, if a show can ruin it.
I’ve been on and off here and it’s so nice to see the regulars being sensible with regards to leaks and theories, and so on. The new bunch, what’s your name included here, are just wow…so much hate and anger…what for? Since when did this once sensible measured website become Reddit?
At least the mods and the regulars are keeping it real…and what scoops!! Bravo, Sue and Luca and the rest of the team!!!
Ramsay’s 20th Good Man,
This. Thank you!!
Ellie,
Disagree, there are breadcrumbs in the book that Dany will come close but never take the iron throne so it makes perfect sense. Also the leaks
which again hints Dany will never rule. I think her arc leads either to dying when fighting the others or being killed by Jon/Arya.
I think this may just be a way the ironborn square their differences, I hope Theon fights back and shows his no longer Reek.
I really hope that this doesn’t mean Yara has been killed hopefully just imprisoned and they go on a rescue mission for her with the help of Dany.
Jade,
Hi, good to see a familiar name. I so agree with your statement.
Here is to hope, it would bite if we lose Yara.
Jon Snowed,
For me those visions don’t mean that at all, Dany walks away from the throne, she walks away from the family she always wanted not because she’s gonna die but because she knows there is something much more important to fight for aka the defeat of the white walkers.
Besides if Dany wants to break the wheel like she said and obviously the thing that keeps the wheel spinning is the iron throne it’ll make more sense if the end game is there is no longer a throne for anyone to sit on whether the destroyer is Dany, someone else who also believes in that or even the WW. Otherwise the wheel will never stop spinning.
That’s how I see it too, everything you said. And it does look like he fights back:
https://twitter.com/Julien_Reynaud/status/792487618080563200 (is this allowed?)
Rhaenys Stark,
Could be Euron kills Yara and of course, Theon is blamed for that.
It seems our khaleesi conquered a castle for her birthday celebration… a real one… Lazkano Suit at Arteaga´s Castle….
https://www.instagram.com/p/BMM0Ww5FA_7/
http://www.serveur-studio-trudel.com/castilloarteaga/vv/
FYI, at least 20 more pics from the fight can be found here: http://www.justjared.com/2016/10/30/game-of-thrones-stars-film-fight-scene-on-spain-beach/
The guy with little long grey coat is in the scene with Jon and Theon so I assume this is ep 1. He is standing on the right side of the long boat when Jon has a go at Theon. It also makes sense why the iron born don’t come to Theon’s aid.
Newbietothegame,
No. the dramatic tension is in the falling for each other and then finding out it is all a little ickie.
Newbietothegame,
Danke. I’m quite fond of the regulars here (but not as vocal) and it’s a lovely community. Just depressing to see so much nuance in the discussions, come to binary aggressive commentary. Sadly, it’s the state of the world right now. Having said that, these leaks and pictures are a bonanza! I’m no expert as such, but with so few episodes left, season 7 and 8 sure look like they’re gearing up. If so much happens in 7, what is 8 going entail?? And what are the WWs doing while things move in the south- now that they’re done with the Bloodraven?
Morgoth,
Who said only dragonglass can kill them? Dragonglass is just the most abundant resource which can be readily made into weapons to kill them. Ain’t nobody knows how to forge Valyrian steel no more, so that’s not really an option. I think last season made it pretty clear fire isn’t an option for taking down NK and his minions… So what’s left? Oh, dragonglass.
They really don’t know what Pilou Asbek looks like, do they. Lol! Theon gets a few good ones in there, thank God. 🙂
There was a heated discussion in another post in regards to this.
I have not read the books, but thought Dany’s parents were brother and sister. I can see her not having a problem with it. Jon, I am not sure.
I think the audience will be thinking this is icky.
mau,
I honestly don’t know how we have enough information to claim it doesn’t make sense. I think it makes perfect sense. Theon jumps over board, get ashore to find other men. One man will have said he saw Theon abandon Yara and they will start beating him, cause they are dumb Ironborn. Why would they beat him in episode 7? What he fails in getting Yara back? If he does that I am guessing he will be killed instead of beaten.
I am not sure I buy into the idea of Theon saving Yara, I would suggest that’s too unlikely and she will probably end up dead along with the Sand snakes, probably after some torture inspired by the Winds chapter George read out. Theon I am guessing will continue to suffer but also gain some redemption through the story maybe in some sort of self-sacrifice.
dreamshade,
Oh yea because everyone character that has seen both wight and other clearly can tell the difference between the two. It is smart to just load up with weapons that they know can beat them. I would feel better going into battle with a Dragonglass knife instead of a metal knife. I go on a roll of killing Whites and then come across and Other who doesn’t go down.
Irina Stark,
Why is it a Clusterfuck? I don’t get everyone getting so damn upset over this detail
dreamshade,
Wow, what a Drama Queen/King you are. Exaggerating much? So one event/decision destroys the other 6 seasons of one character? Please.
Are people sure that isn’t Euron beating up Theon? If so, I see it as episode 7, leaving us with the cliffhanger that Theon is captured and perhaps will give his life to save someone in season 8, or maybe somehow killing Euron as redemption. It makes no sense to have Theon beat up in episode 1, especially after seeing Theon and Jon meet in a later episode. I don’t see there being a sea battle in the first episode and Theon captured. I think that we need to at least first see Euron and Cersei making an alliance.
One thing I’ve noticed and honestly, may not be true here however, the IBs have turned on Theon once before. May or may not be happening here. Just a few posters have neglected that fact.
Esp bc Tyrion saw the hand. LC Mormont sent Tyrion a hand of the man who Jon killed, or one of the others.
elybe,
Remember Halfhand telling Jon they have to act like Free Folk. Sneak up, blend in, go to the tent of Mance and kill him. Jon asks, “can a man survive out here alone?” LC said, “well the halfhand can” — Jon’s dream has always been to be a ranger. ALways put him and Benjen side by side. He’s got the skill to do it on his own. I have not read all the spoilers, do not want to… but that wall still stands, the dead can’t get past. I don’t know what the plan is, take one back alive? I’m assuming if this all happens Benjen will show up. He’ll help. Both said and were told “do what I can, for as long as I can” — So, we’ll see.
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Stark Raven’ Rad,
Totally!
strong>Pigeon,
“Sun rises in the west” — you are using that, as a way to say “it will never happen” — which fits that sentence, but I wanted to suggest that it has… that line has come true in Westeros. Sun=son. Jon already rose.
Charlie Stark,
That’s exactly it.
The Last Dragon named No One,
It’s happening. It’s who the Reavers are
I haven’t read any leaks and won’t discuss them. And I’m sad that they continue to be mentioned in the comments in detail- despite the multiple requests by Luka and Sue. That’s what the forums are for.
Now, for speculation as to the photos in this post – I think it could be Episode 1. Something has happened to Yara, and the men are angry. They respected her. Now they are stuck with a dickless Theon, who they have no respect for.
This guy could be letting his anger out, blaming Theon for whatever has happened to Yara.
Theon however remembers his sister’s words – and has had enough of the beatings. So all the anger finally gets unleashed, thereby earning him some respect from the IB.
Which leads us to a prior post depicting these two in a more agreeable relationship.
Some new pictures from TMZ, showing clearly that Theon wins the fight in the end. http://www.tmz.com/photos/2016/10/30/game-of-thrones-beach-battle/images/2016/10/30/ffn-mej-game-thrones-set-exc-10292016-52217548-jpg-1
Awesome, but what’s with the guy grabbing him?
Pigeon,
Looks like to prevent him from going too far, perhaps. Theon looks completely livid in that image (I assume you were referring to image #30 from the link i had posted earlier).