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Jonathan Pryce spotted on Game of Thrones set in Dubrovnik, and Spain prepares for filming

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Filming for Game of Thrones season 5 in Croatia is finally winding down. After an intensive two weeks of shooting King’s Landing scenes in Dubrovnik, the production team is currently at work in Villa Sheherezade.

However, we haven’t had our last insight into filming in the city of Dubrovnik itself.

WiC has recently acquired some images, one of which shows cast member Jonathan Pryce, who will portray the High Sparrow in the upcoming season. This gives us our first look at the actor on set and in costume.

Spoilers and more images after the cut.

There is a septa-like woman pictured with Pryce above. It is interesting that she is striding with him as opposed to simply being in his general vicinity, being notably separate from the extras. This would seem to indicate an elevated level of importance in her role rather than simply being a background extra. At the very least, hers is likely a speaking role. Septa Unella, perhaps?

The rest of the images are of scenes at the Jesuit Staircase in the Old City. This block of filming took place from September 27th to October 1st, and there has been a plethora of images documenting it. The images below show what seems to be some sort of confrontation between Tommen and the Faith Militant. Cersei is notably absent, although Tommen is flanked by a large bodyguard consisting of both Kingsguard and Lannister men-at-arms.

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In other news, the Game of Thrones crew will arrive in Seville tomorrow, October 6th. ABC de Sevilla notes that shooting there will not actually begin until the 10th, indicating that the production team will likely prepare props and sets over the first few days.

To hold us over until then, DeObia Oparei has confirmed that he will soon begin filming.

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  4. “WiC”? I swear I’ve heard of that site somewhere. Anyway, nice pictures. It is good to have a sighting of Jonathan Pryce at last. I was beginning to think we might not see him as a lot of the KL Dubrovnik filming has taken place, but now we have so that is good.

  5. Great news.

    Shouldn’t this be covered as well?

    http://asoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/topic/118261-spoilers-set-report-dubrovnik-septoct-2014-spoilers/

    It was posted before the latest images and includes a description of what’s shown, in even more detail, so we can assume it’s legitimate. If it’s indeed true, Littlefinger will leave Sansa to her own devices and go back to King’s Landing, and Lancel Lannister is back as well. Considering we’ve seen pretty much the last of Sansa’s story arc from the books, but that this whole season in King’s Landing IS from AFFC & ADWD, I wonder how much of an invention Littlefinger being there is. Will he go there in TWOW, but necessarily at a later time? Or is this completely made up for the show? I won’t call it “filler”, because something not being from the books does not mean it’s not important for the show. Still, it’s an interesting question to ponder.

  6. Luka Nieto,

    The fact that he’ll be there as early as episode 4 indicates it will be an invented storyline, but I have no problem with that whatsoever. Also, LANCEL!!!!

  7. Luka Nieto,

    Well…no. I won’t print something like unless I speak with the source myself to verify and see if they can back it up with some behind the scenes pics or details to show they aren’t just trolling.

  8. Luka Nieto,

    This probably should be spoilered. Most of it seems plausible to be honest, except

    the Littlefinger part. If he was to go back to the capital what would Sansa be doing? Off with Brienne? Surely not. But it’s difficult to see her being on her own for too long, so unless it’s a brief sojourn to the capital for LF I can’t think what’s going to happen here

  9. Ommmmmg awesome news !!

    lancel is back !!! And little finger in kings landing !!!!!!!!!!!!!! Woooow

  10. Luka Nieto,
    aurane waters,

    Assuming those observations are true, Littlefinger’s return to KL is interesting. What would cause him to leave Sansa? Maybe his alliance with the Tyrells brings him back. Good to see that Lancel is back. But still no word on Kevan. At this point, if Kevan isn’t brought back into the story, who will take the role of the regent that tries to bring order to the realm only to be murdered by Varys? Certainly not Mace…
    Another interesting observation from that post: “One of the first scenes filmed with the extras was a scene where Loras (now a member of the Kingsguard) is practicing sword fighting and is ambushed by the Faith Militants.” This must reference the scenes that were posted here last week. I didn’t think that it had been determined that Loras had joined the KG.

  11. Sue the Fury,

    Unless he had a TARDIS or a Delorean, I don’t see how he could be trolling. He could be wrong about certain details, obviously, but he couldn’t possibly have guessed with so much detail back on October 1st things that haven’t become public until today because of these new photos. Of course, verifying it with the source is something you would need to do, and if you can get any more info or pics that’d be great, but I just can’t see how he could’ve made it up.

    BTW, Loras joining the Kingsguard is an interesting development indeed, especially in the TV show, since Loras is the Heir of Highgarden. This may be a power-play by Cersei, using what his father Tywin had already threatened the Queen of Thorns with, but in reverse: Tywin forced the bethrothal of Loras and Cersei by establishing the alternative as Loras joining the Kingsguard, leaving the Tyrells without their heir. Cersei could actually DO it to rid herself of the marriage AND at the same time weaken the Tyrells. Two birds with one stone.

    Also, I’m pretty sure that if Lancel is back so is Kevan. I hope so, anyway. Some of that report sounds too good to be true, but… honestly, I don’t see how he could’ve guessed days ago, and with so much detail, a scene that’s only been revealed today.

  12. I believe that the person was trolling or rather he could have guessed everything of it from set photos and reports.

  14. Dragonslayer,

    A time-travelling troll, then. That’s new.

    The source posted their description long before these new photos surfaced. Yes, they could’ve made up the specifics about Loras, and Littlefinger and most all else, but not what’s shown on these pictures and they had already described four days ago. We should see if they have edited the original post with this new information or if it was like this from the beginning. If it was all already there, they didn’t have any reason to tarnish their truthful report with lies.

  16. Wow this leaves a lot of questions. I hope someone can verify if it is true or not..

    1. Lancel is back? If this is true, awesome news!
    2. Loras is joining Kingsguard for the show as well?
    3. Faith Militant being shown as powerful a lot more than we directly see in the books (as I remember)
    4. Littlefinger in King’s Landing? Like Jeb said then what’s going on with Sansa? Why would he need to go? As Luka asked: Show invention or future book material?
    5. Timing would make sense- early/mid season. Enough time to show Cersei re-arming the Faith, Lancel joining, Tywin’s funeral being over, preparations to arrest Cersei and Margaery as the Faith Militant gains power.
    6. Another question is, what is the fight with Loras about- under attack himself for his own bedroom antics or protecting his sister?

    We don’t know anything about some of those details since we have no photos (that I know of) of some of the people mentioned shooting in Dubrovnik.. hmm.. maybe some will surface soon?

  17. Luka Nieto,

    You may be right that he is legit but I very much doubt

    the Loras = Kingsguard rumor in the show

    though I suppose that could be a simple missunderstanding.

  18. Clearly they’re being tighter on the casting leaks this year. Septa Unella has clearly been cast by now. Arya filming scenes means the Waif has likely been cast, and so we don’t know who they are. It’s good news for any of us holding out hope for others.

  19. I very much want

    the return of Lancel.

    But it’s not unheard of for someone to troll Westeros with spoilers, including educated ones. He could really know people in the Faith Militant scenes or simply learnt somewhere else online that the steps scene included Tommen and other special details, then added stuff. Someone did something similar last year, for example around the finale, saying that Pod gets killed and a few other things.

    But he has replied just now. And Eugene Simon does have that short cropped haircut…

  20. Dragonslayer,

    All the info was out there before the “leak”. The only bit we haven’t heard of was the Tommen scene, and we don’t know for sure what that is.

    And it’s funny that the post was edited 3 minutes ago… I wonder if it was edited after WIC released their pics as well.

  21. Dragonslayer,

    Cersei has to dissolve her marriage with Loras somehow. And it is a double whammy for the Tyrells, since Loras is the heir in the show. I believe it mostly because it’d be a clever move by Cersei, and it’d have the advantage of putting things more in line with the book version of Loras and Cersei’s marriage status. A Tyrell legacy problem arises, of course, but they’d get to that some day if need be.

    —

    Felt Pelt,

    He says he’s updating the post with info about a scene from the first episode in which Cercei meets the high Sparrow.

    I take all of this with a grain of salt… but I admit I’m not as suspicious as everyone else here. I don’t blame any of you, of course.

  22. jentario,

    I am not saying I believe the leak (nor that I don’t) but I can confirm that the most recent update (literally five minutes ago) added some further info on Cersei’s scenes (last paragraph(

  23. Greatjon of Slumber,

    I’m hoping you’re right and it’s good news for some Martells, some Greyjoys, or Wyman! (although unlikely for Arianne, the one I want the most, since they mentioned Trystane as the heir…) Fingers crossed!

  24. Felt Pelt,

    Lancel’s haircut is one of the post’s sillier details. Someone linked a pic of Eugene with Kerry Ingram (and was it Aimee Richardson as well?) where he had a short haircut. That’s likely where the poster got the idea that if Eugene had a haircut, Lancel must too. Ever heard of wigs, dude? Wigs!

  25. TheBerylfly,

    I know, the point is that it’s entirely possible that he just edited his post after WIC released their pics. The last edit wasn’t the one where the Tommen stuff was added, but what about the one before it?

  26. TheBerylfly,

    I’m assuming the scene described in this new paragraph is funeral-related or at least during mourning if everything is black with the Lannister sigil??

  27. Awsome pics! It’s nice to get our first look at Jonathan Pryce and what appears to be Septa Unella. Now I’m praying to the old gods, the seven and Rhollor that you guys have countless little birds in Spain so we can get at least a glimpse of Dorne. Seriously, if I have to wait until they release the trailers and promotional pics to see at least a little bit of the dornish I’m gonna go crazy.

  28. Can’t wait to see JP as HS. He can really sell that wonderfully crazed, devious look with his eyes and demeanor. His performance in Brazil was classic. One of my favorite films. Now all we need is a Terry Gilliam cameo….

    Cian, I appreciate how you reference WiC without vitriol. Respect. We’re a community.

  29. Luka Nieto,

    Maybe I’m seeing something different in that Westeros post, but I see a bunch of stuff that was posted here days ago, things extrapolated from what we already know- Loras’s struggle, marketplace filming, the militant, the stairs with Olenna, and Margaery filming, the procession, etc. The only thing that would really be news would be Lancel and Littlefinger. And Gillen was seen around Dubrovnik, so that’s not really a huge leap of logic.

    We have a process for posting news and it works. You wouldn’t believe how many people troll and make stuff up and submit random junk. We don’t post every single rumor without proof. When we get a little proof, then we’re usually more willing to give something attention. This posting could be 100% legit. But we don’t dedicate a new post to every single rumored report without any proof. Otherwise there would be a lot of bad news being posted here.

  30. Right now all I want is to identify that actress who is the septa. Seems like it has to be Septa Unella, but we can’t be sure. She is familiar but I can’t place her. ARRGGHH

  31. I feel like they are trying to show that Tommen is the oppiste of Joffrey , especily with that scene(if its true) when the faith soldier tells him to leave and try to start a fight and instead Tommen just takes his king’s guards and lannister’s guards and leave while people shouting bastard and abomination to his face (this scene will make some people feel pity and sad for him ) while it will be the oppiste if he was joffry (and anyway Joff would never walk away like this he would scream kill them all // and any way why would Tommen go to the sept like this ? Is he trying to talk to the high sparrow to save his mother ?

  33. Jaime’s girl,

    I think as many have suspected that Arrianne is gone, and Obara will take on some of her characteristics. Most other Martells are in. Still waiting on BRIAN GODAMMNED BLESSED as Wyman.

    As an aside, Pryce other than his age looks exactly how I pictured the High Sparrow. Sackcloth, self righteous, perfect. I just pictured him younger, bearded, straw like hair. But who cares. Hr looks great.

  34. Sue the Fury,

    Exactly this. And now he’s saying Nikolaj hasn’t filmed any scenes and that it’s a “fact”- even though a couple of tweets already mentioned Nikolaj was present. And the fact that he knows they’re filming in the villa is proof that he reads this site’s news. Just another fake, if you ask me.

  35. Wow we actually get to see some Kingsguard!

    Loras joining the KG if it’s true makes me just a little bit happier! I don’t think there’s any need for Kevan but I’d find it very odd if they didn’t bring back Lancel as he’s tailor-made for this storyline with his link with Cersei and how he converts to the faith i nthe books.

  37. Greatjon of Slumber,

    Wyman Manderly is the new character I’m most looking forward to. According to the current poll in this site, most people share that opinion. I really hope he’s in, partly because of Davos and mostly because of Wyman’s wonderful twist and his powerful speech.

    As for current filming… I’m gonna be so bummed if we don’t get anything from the villa. Illyrio is the returning character I’m most looking forward to have back with us, so I was really hoping for a confirmation. Maybe we’ll still get something, who knows.

  38. So wait, is the

    High Septon dead already in the show? How is the High Sparrow already in charge (based on alleged Westeros.org spolier) in Episode 1?

  41. Is that mean that Lancel will be the

    faith champion in the Cersie’s trail aginst Robert strong /the mountain ? No Grave digger Vs Robert strong ?

  45. I think one of the biggest problems relating to the Westeros post is that it is from a new member. If it was regular poster it would be easier to believe, but until he predicts something (unexpected) that then happens I will believe it to be wrong.

  46. If the Littlefinger part is legit, I think a logical show-reason could be that he hears about the Sparrows troubling brothels and goes back to KL to check on/protect his businesses. That could give Sansa time to further establish herself with Vale folk behind his back, if that’s the direction the show is going. Since everyone in the show has jetpacks he wouldn’t have to be there very long. He could also do more plotting with Tyrells while he’s there.
    So, it might not be true, but it doesn’t really beggar the imagination.

  49. jentario:
    Sue the Fury,

    Exactly this. And now he’s saying Nikolaj hasn’t filmed any scenes and that it’s a “fact”- even though a couple of tweets already mentioned Nikolaj was present. And the fact that he knows they’re filming in the villa is proof that he reads this site’s news. Just another fake, if you ask me.

    yup. Also, all of the people posting “spoilers” on facebook fan pages are all fake as well. I looked back at their season 4 “spoilers” and they were bullshit. Such as “Coldhands is guaranteed to be in this season”. Basically beware of trolls. They try to sounds smart by using many details. In reality who remembers that many details from being on set?

  50. TristanSnow,

    Proof is required really. The problem is that there are trolls (not saying you are) who post plausible, but completely incorrect information.

    I remember one last year about Crasters keep that basically said that Karl was holding Craster’s baby hostage after all the other mutineers are killed. They manage to kill Karl, and the baby became important later on in the season/series. Did it happen? Nowhere near.

    That is why proof is needed, otherwise its just pure speculation.

  51. If LF is in KL… It does actually fit in with the books, and Sansa’s last chapter from Feast. Sort of. In that last chapter, LF is absent while Sansa and the rest of the household make their way down from the Eyrie, due to Winter’s approach. It shows that Sansa has stepped up to some sort of leadership position; she’s in charge, ordering Maester Coleman around, manipulating little Robert/Robin, all in the absence of LF. While the circumstances of LF’s absence appear to be quite different here in the show, I think it’ll still be good to show Sansa acting on her own, just for an episode or two.

  52. unfortunatelly, I have no set photos, only extras sheets which I could provide with the names blacked out… I will also update the post as I haven’t written the part with the walk and Cercei and the Mountain stuff… long story shot, Lena wasn’t nude, they used a bodydouble…

  55. mmmm – as LF warned Ned Stark, trust no one. I love the photos of the scenes and actors. Its one thing when the post is from someone the mods know about and confirm real. But Im going to take other spoilers with a grain of salt. Interesting for speculation, but Im not going to believe anything till I see it.

  56. Ser Florian,

    Littlefinger leaving Sansa alone is the perfect opputunity for Sansa to bump into Brienne…

    Though it’s probably too early in the season for that.

  57. TristanSnow: unfortunatelly, I have no set photos, only extras sheets which I could provide with the names blacked out… I will also update the post as I haven’t written the part with the walk and Cercei and the Mountain stuff… long story shot, Lena wasn’t nude, they used a bodydouble…

    We do know about the body double, but the call sheets would be a great start. Shoot us an email and we’ll talk. 🙂

  60. With Eugene Simon’s (Lancel Lannister) buzz cut as of late, that certainly fits into this idea that he’s of the Faith Militant.

    As far as Kevan goes, the leaked script info for S5E1 and E2 say that he is in, as well as Lancel. So far, I believe we’ve found that leaked info to be accurate with what we’ve seen being filmed. Unless Kevan was later cut, I have faith that he is in. Someone mentioned that he probably has no outdoor scenes, so that’s why we’ve yet to encounter him in set photos of Dubrovnik. Time will tell, of course.

  61. Kyle:
    With Eugene Simon’s (Lancel Lannister) buzz cut as of late, that certainly fits into this idea that he’s of the Faith Militant.

    As far as Kevan goes, the leaked script info for S5E1 and E2 say that he is in, as well as Lancel. So far, I believe we’ve found that leaked info to be accurate with what we’ve seen being filmed. Unless Kevan was later cut, I have faith that he is in. Someone mentioned that he probably has no outdoor scenes, so that’s why we’ve yet to encounter him in set photos of Dubrovnik. Time will tell, of course.

    Leaked script info? Link please!

  62. Would Lancel be wearing a lighter colored robe like the High Sparrow’s? (At the bottom of the stairs).

  64. Kyle,

    Hey Kyle, do you have a link for that? I haven’t heard about leaked script on here or any other site. Is it verified??? Can you send it to WotW for their staff to investigate?

  65. Time will tell if any of these rumors are true. I can’t believe it’s a whole 6 months! Now that I’m not unemployed any more time is moving much more slowly than it did last year.

  67. I’m sorry to be off topic, but has anyone mentioned this recent David Bradley interview? He confirms not being in season 5, but hints at

    “divine retribution”

    for his character in the future, possibly in season 6. I think this is the most concrete proof so far D&D are indeed planning something for Riverrun in the long run (other than the various hints in the show itself: Rat Cook story, peasants speaking about the violation of hospitality, etc).

    David Bradley’s words:

    “I spoke to David Benioff, and he said, “You’ll be back, you’ll be back.” But not in this season, not the one they’re doing now. Not for season five. But he’s got more to do in the books, and I hope he’ll be back at least for some kind of divine retribution, which has to be coming his way at some point. Surely he can’t get away with all that? I’d like to think he survives just a bit longer for that. I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s back for season six, but I haven’t heard anything definite.”

    http://www.vulture.com/2014/09/david-bradley-strain-game-of-thrones-chat.html

  71. I choose not to submit the report here or on WIC because my friends and I would be in big trouble for doing it, so less exposure is better… I will be updating the walk info tomorrow on the forum and that’s it from me… you can believe me if you want or don’t, It’s up to you! Come April I will be proven right anyway. I wanted to share the info for all the fans who don’t have a chance to participate in the making of the show! I know I would love to have this info! May the Gods be kind!

  72. TristanSnow,

    I actually believe you just so you know, everything you’ve said makes sense and seems plausible to me. I’m curious to hear your info on the walk…because if its just about the bodydouble than we know that already.

  74. So here is a theory…very unlikely I know, but still it was a thought that crossed my mind.

    So if Olenna Tyrell is in Kings Landing by episode 7 and leaving the Sept she was probably visiting Margaery. But it seems unlikely that they would only bring her back to visit Margaery. So could it be possible that she takes on Kevan’s role (if he is cut) and conciliates the Lannisters and Tyrells for the sake of unity. She wouldn’t be in the small council but more like a behind-the-scenes presence. In that case Varys could kill her because she was healing the rifts in the Realm and making up for Cersei’s mistakes.

    It is a little far-fetched I know. But one thing is certain, her death by Varys hands would make up for a greater shock to the audience than killing Kevan.

  76. Indila,

    I would love that, the Tyrells seriously need to start losing some people already!!! They’re the only major family that hasn’t suffered yet, plus they’re so power-hungry and slimy and aren’t even funny/entertaining to make up for it like the Lannisters

  77. TristanSnow,

    You should maintain your “authoritative” comments as speculation rather than fact, then when you are “proven” correct in April-May, you can stand on your pedestal and shout “I was right!” All the subservients will then bow to you, get on their knees and do as you command.

  78. Dame of Mercia:
    TristanSnow,

    Could you say who the lady is playing the Septa?

    it was some british actress, don’t know the name, but she was there during the walk scene… when the walk starts, she is the one that disrobes C. and walks behind her ringing a bell shouting “Shame”

  82. Lady Nym:
    Is that mean that Lancel will be the

    I’ve always thought that would be an interesting turn.

    Lancel would most certainly lose and Cersei would take heat for the death of a Lannister

    William,

    Hmm Patchface mentioned this last week iirc.

  83. Luka Nieto,

    Thanks Luka. I just read it and like someone else said, nothing has been proven wrong but that doesn’t mean it is right. I’ll take it as speculation.

  84. More on topic:

    Glad to see some Pryce-less pics. (Sorry I couldn’t help myself)

    But in all seriousness, he is going to rock that role.

  85. Greatjon of Slumber,

    I am all for Brian Blessed as Wyman! As a Blackadder fan, you have my vote! 😉
    Yeah I know Arianne is probably cut but I’m hoping against hope.

    I really liked that in Dorne the women could be the heir over her brothers, and I thought Arianne was really a badass, was looking forward to her seduction of Arys on the show when I was reading.

    Now I’m sad that’s probably not happening.

  86. TristanSnow,

    ew it’s creepy how she disrobes Cersei, in the books Cersei disrobes herself lol. just curious, when she disrobes Cersei….was that Lena or the bodydouble

  88. Sorry for any confusion, guys. Note that I said “leaked script info” and not “leaked script.”

  89. clk,

    It was the Murlough Bay article. The comment was posted on the 30th and the interview is from the 29th so he/she must have seen it right after it surfaced.

  90. There is a septa-like woman pictured with Pryce above. It is interesting that she is striding with him as opposed to simply being in his general vicinity, being notably separate from the extras. This would seem to indicate an elevated level of importance in her role rather than simply being a background extra.

    I’m not sure that “striding with him rather than being in the vicinity” matters in this specific pic. To me it looks like this is not a filmed scene, but two actors dressed to do a scene, rushing to a set (or somewhere). Plus the background is way to modern. But I do think it is Septa Unella rather than

    Septa Lemore, who is probably in a different location if she’s not cut.

  92. aurane waters: Septa Lemore, who is probably in a different location if she’s not cut.

    Quote Reply

    Lena was used only when they were shooting her face and in scenes for VFX where they will copy paste her face on the bodydouble… so when you see Cercei naked on the show, it’s a VFX shot of the bodydouble and Lena’s face on it…

  93. TristanSnow,

    How do you know that that’s what they were doing? Seems a little much doesn’t it? If they were going to do that route it would be much easier to digitally add in features on the body rather than the face. Superimposing faces is an imperfect science.

  94. Strider,

    I disagree. I didn’t say it’s a filmed scene (because it’s quite obviously not). What I meant was that the two actors were walking towards something together.

    It would be very strange if an actor and a random extra were just strolling about together on set. It’s much more likely that she is a cast member and thus in close proximity with Pryce between takes.

  96. TristanSnow,

    that seems……..intense. if its true, i really wonder what made Lena change her mind about the nudity (besides the obvious), because she seemed 100% ready to do it before.

  97. aurane waters,

    Digital nudity is something that is done in movies sometimes but they do it in the opposite way. I’ve never heard of heads being superimposed. That doesn’t mean that it isn’t done because I don’t KNOW for sure but it sounds needlessly complex compared to the simpler route of superimposing nipples/other features.

  98. In my humble opinion, they did it for legal reasons… extras were encouraged to throw twings at the body double but not on Lena as things flying infront of her face would be a problem in post production… also, if Lena got a peace of fake crap in here eye, they would have to pay her sh!tload of money… every scene was done three times, once with the double naked, once with Lena and extras yelling but not moving and a third time with a guy walking with a small greenscreen infront of him…

  99. Greenjones,

    yeah it does sound really complicated, if that’s what they’re actually doing then I imagine it’s going to take them a lot of work to superimpose the faces in a way that doesn’t look weird

  101. aurane waters:
    Greenjones,

    yeah it does sound really complicated, if that’s what they’re actually doing then I imagine it’s going to take them a lot of work to superimpose the faces in a way that doesn’t look weird

    the same effect was used in season 2 with Pyat Pree

  102. Dutch maester:
    TristanSnow,

    Dammit, you just started making me not believe you. Unfortunate, because I liked the spoilers.

    can’t wait to prove otherwise! don’t believe me if you don’t want to, makes no difference to me and I would understand! when the vfx reel for season 5 comes along, will drink to that! 😀

  103. TristanSnow,

    I’m not sure. They likely used a greenscreen for that too but my guess is that they filmed Ian Hanmore in multiple costumes and inserted them into the shots where there’s more than one of him. Face superimposing as I’ve said is not an exact science.

  105. TristanSnow,

    I doubt they’d show that on the VFX reel. A lot of actresses are cagey about the use of body doubles and the double wouldn’t necessarily want their face seen.

  106. Greenjones,

    I agree. I mean it could be true, but I really don’t think so. Lena Headey has done nudity before and as many have mentioned (and I think I remember it as well) she was looking forward to the scene. Could she have changed her mind for some reason? Absolutely, but if she did, there are better ways of dealing with it than superimposing a face, as you said. The only time I can remember it being done for TV is Boardwalk Empire.

  107. Also considering the huge emotional breakdown that Cersei has during the WOS would make superimposing faces all the more difficult. Personally I still believe that the body double did 95% of the nudity and especially all the scenes in which Cersei has various stuff thrown at her. But Lena also did some nudity on the last day of filming the walk (October 3rd) in which the set was even more closed than before and they’re were less extras and it was the end of the Walk so they applied some of the stuff on her (makeup) but she wasn’t actually having it thrown on her.

  111. TristanSnow,

    Okay, this is where you lost me as believer. This sounds totally impractical and doesn’t make sense at all. It’s not how they would’ve filmed multiple Pyat Prees, that is done by combining many takes into one. The one time I know of where it was done like your describing was in the Social Network, because David Fincher wanted each twin to have their own distinct body language so they used two actors but one face.

    If they’re using a body double they would use cuts and angles instead of relying so heavily on special effects.

  114. yep I believe everything else you’re saying Tristan Snow but the superimposing faces thing I don’t believe

  116. aurane waters,

    It is possible that they did something else with the greenscreen behind the actresses. If that part of his account is accurate maybe he was mistaken about the reasons why it was being used…

  117. aurane waters:
    yep I believe everything else you’re saying Tristan Snow but the superimposing faces thing I don’t believe

    If you suspect one essential statement is wrong why believe the rest?

  118. Dragonslayer,

    because its possible that he could be mistaken about a certain production detail but his description of the scenes are correct. like Greenjones said its possible that Tristan is right about some greenscreen work done, its just that the copy/paste faces thing is too much.

  121. tyjon,

    If that’s true that would be a big get for the show. The above picture doesn’t look like Colman to my eye though. Hopefully it is her (because she’s great and can do a lot more than just comedy) but we’d need more confirmation for this.

  122. aurane waters,

    Olivia Colman is a pretty big TV actress in the UK. I think she has won BAFTAs the last two years. If they have got her it’s a bit of a coup, and would bring publicity to the show from a demgraphic less likely to watch the show normally.

  125. Doesn’t look like Colman to me, either… I’m sure I do vaguely recognise her though, from British TV most likely. Difficult to tell without the hair, but the face does seem familiar.

  128. tyjon: I saw Locke not long ago On Demand and the actress playing the Septa appears to be Ms Colman

    Olivia Colman is a disembodied voice in Locke, (as is every actor except for Tom Hardy in the film), so I’m not sure why you brought it up. She’s been in a bunch of other things.

  130. Cian,

    I wasn’t sure what exactly you meant since there aren’t that many septas identified in AffC in KL, so to me it was obvious that it has to be one of those few that film scenes with the HS and no ordinary extra. That’s if they have septas as extra, which until now I haven’t even considered as a possibility LOL. Position relative to Pryce (in front, back, left, right, in the background) seemed irrelevant to me.

    I see we’ve reached the same conclusion, regardless.

  131. I studied the pic and the Septa looks like Amanda Donohoe to me. I’m probably wrong but that’s my guess…

  133. This may seem like a strange analogy, but the skepticism surrounding both Tristan Snow’s and Will Do’s (until his was verified) reports reminds me a lot of college basketball recruiting. Some people really do have legit. info., and even those with legit. info. can sometimes get things wrong, based upon something they’ve heard or seen that isn’t necessarily the whole picture. The folks with the legit. info. are regarded with caution, until and unless their info. can be verified, because of trolls who just like to make up stuff. I appreciate the caution with which the powers-that-be on WoW approach all reports. By that same token, I also appreciate those who choose to share what they know, or what they can of what they know, even though they probably know their reports will be met with a certain skepticism.

    Sooooooooooooo excited to finally get a shot of Jonathan Pryce!!!

  137. Doubt it’ll be Olivia Colman although she is an excellent actress and I’d be happy if she did feature ( She was brilliant in the great British comedy ‘Peep Show’ but never thought she’d go on to win BAFTAs!).
    Are we really certain that they used CGI nudity?! Can understand if they used a body double for the public walk but I can imagine Lena not having any issue with getting her kit off on a closed set. Possibly at the very beginning of the walk before she moves outside and the very end with Strong. I think that would be the best bet for continuity with the shots.

  138. No way is that Coleman. Not in the slightest. She’s becoming a big name in TV and comedy, is an excellent well known actress and tends to have her own vehicles, not play bit parts.

    And

    It looks nothing like her.

  141. Lady Nym,

    I cried a little when I saw those (I didn’t, but almost). On a serious note I do think I’m gonna cry when the trailer comes. Oh, and on the actress discussion: That veil, turbant, scarf, I don’t know how to say it (not in english) but that thing on her head makes it very hardto guess who she is because it not only hides the hair but the shape of the head and stuff, so it’s harder to identify the actress.

  142. ctid,

    Cool, people are trying to finally figure out who the Septa was, everyone was talking so much about Pryce and other aspects of the shoot but were ignoring the Septa, shame on you all. I still stand by my suggestion until proven otherwise, I know I have seen that actress in something recently (past month or two), and Colman has similar features, the headdress can alter some features because of how it can tighten and shift skin/muscle along the sides and jaw. Even Diana Rigg looks different with and w/o that silly headdress.

  143. Felt Pelt,

    Yes Colman is a busy actress, but that filming took place the week before the Walk shoot, she could easily hop a plane and be there in 6 hours. Heck why not take a role that can be filmed between shooting on other projects. Some of the great Hollywood legends of old would be filming 2 and 3 projects at once back in the 30’s-60’s.

  144. OT: After the first two weeks of the new tv season, I am frustrated with the lack of anything really, truly outstanding. You would think the networks would get the message after BB, GoT, MM, WD, HoC, etc. and rise to the occasion, but damn this season at the moment is suckville. They don’t even need to do anything original, there is a wealth of great books and book series out there to purchase the rights to and develop, it seems only Starz did so with Outlander (4 star show too). Do networks and production companies hate buying rights to literary works? GoT has shown you can adapt books successfully, if you are willing to up the ante. The networks also need to loosen up and really go for it for, ignoring so called moral groups. The Supreme Court and FCC have ruled the 10 pm and after slots can be adult only programming, except for Hannibal no network show has pushed the envelope.

  145. I think she looks in her 50s or 60s. And I think she looks familiar too but I can’t place her. I am still 100% convinced it’s not Coleman though.

  146. I was thinking it looked kind of like Siobhan Finneran (from Downton Abbey) with the squarish jaw and smile lines, but no idea really…

  147. tyjon,

    You check out Masters of Sex? Sometimes it kind of warbles on the brink of falling apart without plot drive, but it’s generally well written and articulated. The leads’ relationship, as the centre of the show I guess obviously, is one of the only highly focused-on and developed romantic relationships that I’ve seen represented on television that I haven’t been cheesed out by. Plus the whole show is pretty sexy.

  148. Dogs,

    I concur. Masters of Sex is pretty good.

    I quite like the various supporting roles. Libby is stunning. The role could very easily be a pretty thin stereotype, but she plays it pretty complex. Alison Janney was great in S1 also.

    Now the second season’s finished, I have literally nothing to watch 🙁

  149. tyjon,

    Did you check out ‘Borgia’ by Canal plus? One of the best historical series ever made and it even has two game of thrones actors.

  150. Well, once again tacky-ass TMZ have something to say about the WoS. They have some supposedly exclusive info on the matter, that is if anything they say is to be believed.

    http://www.tmz.com/2014/10/06/game-of-thrones-nude-scene-cersei-lena-headey-naked-security/

    (In my defence I found the link through IMDB, I didn’t actually look up the site).

  155. Yo, I think I know why Olenna is back…

    She could take the place of Kevan and get offed by Varys at the end of the season or the start of the next… Think about it, Kevan is Cersei’s level headed opponent in the Small Council and his death will likely spark a Lannister/Tyrell war. Olenna would be a good opponent in the Small Council and her death would defs spark a war between the families.
    What makes this even better is that Varys and Olenna seem to like each other, that last bit of dialogue between them would be great as he explains he doesn’t want to do this, but he has to because she’s doing too much good. Bonus, imagine Cersei’s reaction when Olenna tells her to name her as the first female Hand of the King.

    In fact, I hope they do this.

  157. King DBC,

    It could work but I don’t really see a need for her in that respect. The fact Pycelle was killed off-screen in the books at almost the same time in the same way means he is prime Kevan replacement material. Plus seeing him die would be a nice pay off for the fans especially as it would be incredibly poetic that he’s killed of by children when there are hints of him being a peadophile. Although not in the same mould as Kevan he could act as Cersei’s advisor up until Maegorie’s trial where his survival instinct kicks in. Could work well with Cersi not trusting him anymore but there may be a need for another advisor with more credibility, perhaps Jaime, who she again is starting to lose trust in (perhaps after failing to return Myrcella from Dorne) so he may disappear before she is arrested as she pushes him away because she doesn’t feel he is any use anymore . By the end she’d only have Qyburn and FrankenGreg left in her corner much like the books with Pycelle dead and Jaime not wanting anything to do with her. This would realy hamme home how isolated she made herself and would reference Tyrion and how nearly everyone abandoned him when the shit hit the fan

  158. tyjon,

    Another suggestion – have you tried Manhattan on WGN? (Re: Manhattan project in Los Alamos)? I find it to be the best series on right now – plus it has Harry Lloyd! I like it better than Outlander but that is personal taste.

  159. King DBC,

    I think you are wrong, they used body doubles to recreate Pyat Pree in the house of the undying, you can see that in one of behind the scenes of season 2

  161. davy:
    tyjon,

    Did you check out ‘Borgia’ by Canal plus? One of the best historical series ever made and it even has two game of thrones actors.

    If you’re looking for great historical with GoT actors then head to Rome if you haven’t already!
    I quite enjoyed ‘Penny Dreadful’ but I’m a sucker for anything set in Victorian times with science clashing with the occult (classic literacy references too!). ‘Ripper Street’ does it for me too!

  162. thornofhighgarden,

    Possible

    Greenjones,

    Will do DID say that Lena stayed with the crew after the extras left. They’ll probably cut the screen up and merge it with shots where the crowd was present. Then clean it up a bit. Honestly, you’d only need a couple of actually naked Lena shots to sell the scene, the rest can be her body double an face close ups.

  163. Auren,

    I see. I was thinking about the scene in the garden. I still don’t see how this can work for Cersei’s scene.
    But, if the time comes next year that I am proven wrong I will give Tristan the chance to say ‘I told you so!’ For now I believe what he says, except this. It doesn’t make sense.

  164. King DBC,

    It’s doable, but the part with the green screen seems odd. When they did Pyat Pree they just put some spots on the body doubles’ faces for the CGI. And then there’s the TMZ thing. It just doesn’t seem to fit together very well.

  165. jentario,

    I can’t imagine the production wanting to do CGI when it really can be avoided (Whether this is because of expense or creative reasons or a combination of both I do not know). The dire wolves and dragons are used very sparingly so for something that can be done easily without CGI (nudity for example) I’d be very surprised if they CGI’ed it. Even body make up or prosthetics would be preferable IMO.

  168. Fun fact Jonathan Pryce is not wearing his costume in this pic. This is the outfit he wears when he wants to be comfortable.

  169. I think the green screen part is pretty clear to me, It sounds as if they plan on recording nude Lena in a studio and with the help of that green screen insert the studio footage into the scenes they shot in Dubrovnik. It is cheaper and it looks a lot more real than copy/pasting her face on the double, and the fact that they wanted people to throw things in front of the green screen makes it even more plausible that the green screen is supposed to be nude Lena (they can even CGI some of the things being thrown to hit Lena).

  170. TheTouchOfFrost,

    I think the CGI has more to do with elements being thrown at the actress, than anything to do with avoiding nudity for Lena.

    You don’t want a freak accident to take out an eye of one of your main actresses on the show. Delays do to the injury and any liability from the accident just isn’t worth the risk if it is easily avoided.

    Items thrown at the body double will be converted to digital as they get close to Cersei/Lena and any splatter effects as well. Close up reaction shots of Lena being hit would be done separately in a controlled environment.

    This would be very similar to the riot in season 2 when Joffrey was hit with shit thrown from the crowd. The only difference here would be the length of the scene and the number of times hit.

  171. fuelpagan,

    Couldnt the green screen be simply for KL decors ? Like inserting the Red Keep or the Sept, or even simply alter the decor of some houses they’d be passing by later in post prod.

  172. fuelpagan,

    I’m not convinced that they’re that the actors are that soft or what the extras are throwing will be that heavy! You see kids gameshows where they’re throwing heavier things at eachother! But whatever teh reason, I think Lena will ahve done her nudity seperately, either by green screen or on a closed set. As others have said it would make it more believable that it’s her if she is shown legit nude for at least part of the scene.

  175. jentario,

    The Meereen actors are done for now in Croatia, if I am not mistaken, so it makes sense for them to film in their Belfast sets; there’s bound to be plenty of scenes at the pyramid throne room, and whatever else they might have built. Then, in a couple weeks, they’ll go to Osuna, Spain and film Daznak’s Pit, and film there until the 29th. Still, we know there may be filming in other places around the city, so other storylines may be involved for such a long stretch of filming.

  178. davyJones:
    Kevan needs to be brought back!

    Why? Show Kevan had about 4 lines and was barely in 2 or 3 episodes.

    I don’t get all the clamor about bringing him back? He is a minor character.

  182. TheTouchOfFrost,

    It looks similar to when the Vale sortie shot in the hills when filming began. So yeah, I think it was the Vale, as expected.

    With Littlefinger in King’s Landing at some point (either for the wedding or the funeral, probably) we don’t know where that leaves Sansa and if these scenes are before or after his trip to the capital. This whole storyline will be a surprise next year. It’s like we’re getting a small dose of what’s to come in season 6 and on.

  187. jentario,

    The image is too blurry to see any details, but it looks like the person riding in the foreground is wearing a dress… could be Sansa

  188. Cami,

    What is that? Some sort of altar? Anyway, I’m happy they’re adding their own pieces of architecture to the place; a Spanish bull-fighting ring doesn’t exactly scream “Egyptian-inspired Meereenese architecture” for me.

    This is news-worthy, right? I hope an article is written about this. “Artecsevilla” is a construction company and they have uploaded a photo of their own work on their official Twitter account, so it’s as verified as this sort of thing can get. If there’s any doubt, the seats behind whatever they are building look exactly like the ones at the Osuna arena.

  189. I think the set-thing they are building at the bullring is the royal seat which Danaerys and Hizdar are sitting on during the pitfights. I can see Danaerys jumping off that thing and running towards the smouldering rampage that’s going to be in the middle of the ring…. 🙂

  190. jentario,

    Ah it’s been confirmed Littlefinger is in King’s Landing? Wonder what Sansa is going to get up to then as she’s not gonna have many folks to interact with. Wouldn’t mind too much if , like Bran, she took a backseat a bit this season.

  192. arden,

    He’s a minor character in the show, he means. Not having him back would be a departure from the books, but his absence in Season 5 would not cross a single show-watcher’s mind.

    Nobody who has not read the books would ever wonder “Where’s Tywin’s brother, anyway?”. A single line of dialogue established him as Tywin’s brother back in Season 1 (as Tyrion’s uncle, technically); his name has been uttered like a couple times; and he was in the background for a few episodes in the first two seasons. That’s it. So yes, faithfulness to the source material would demand to bring him back, but let’s be clear: for all practical purposes, it would entail establishing a completely new character, with the added “benefit” of having him in the background of a few past scenes for the very, very few who go back and re-watch the show with such care.

    Don’t get me wrong, I want Kevan back, and I’d bet he is in fact back. But it’s not such an obvious thing. He’ll be pretty much a new character in the show, almost as much as Beric Dondarrion is considered a new character in Season 3 although he technically appeared in Season 1 as well.

  193. Luka Nieto,

    I just don’t get this mentality from a book reader is what I’m saying. Does he not like Kevan in the books? Is that why he doesn’t care if he get’s cut from the show for no apparent reason? It’s confusing to me — because a character isn’t important to him he doesn’t understand why people would care if the character gets cut from the adaptation.

  195. tyjon:
    ctid,

    Cool, people are trying to finally figure out who the Septa was, everyone was talking so much about Pryce and other aspects of the shoot but were ignoring the Septa, shame on you all. I still stand by my suggestion until proven otherwise, I know I have seen that actress in something recently (past month or two), and Colman has similar features, the headdress can alter some features because of how it can tighten and shift skin/muscle along the sides and jaw. Even Diana Rigg looks different with and w/o that silly headdress.

    The Septa wasn’t alone
    https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-yhl6QefLqsU/VDEeLJXFrqI/AAAAAAAAFZw/KdM9Q4YBFVI/w832-h555-no/IMG_5727.JPG

    Jürgen

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