Gendry to have big part in Game of Thrones Season 8, actor Joe Dempsie reveals

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Everyone’s favorite blacksmith was back for Season 7, but how big a role will Gendry play now?

Unofficial Baratheon offspring Gendry was more than just a bit player in Season 7 of Game of Thrones, but will the trend continue for the final season? News about filming for Season 8 has been cryptic to say the least, with more than one actor sticking to a similar “Everyone will be surprised” line, but Joe Dempsie let slip that the bastard-turned-blacksmith-turned-marathon runner will have a significant role to play.

Dempsie has been filming “a fair bit,” according to an exclusive interview with DigitalSpy, saying that he’s “done well out of it this year, for sure.” However, in a caveat typical of most Game of Thrones cast members, he was quick to add that, just because he is in it a lot, fans shouldn’t assume his character survives till the end.

Dempsie also noted that he was just grateful to have been brought back for the role in season seven, after a four-season-long absence:

“I’m aware that David [Benioff] and Dan [Weiss] have a million-and-one things that they need to think about when they’re putting their story arcs together,” he said. “It was one of the reasons why I never took for granted returning to the show at all.”

Once he knew he would be invited back, though, it meant keeping a lot of secrets — and even though Gendry has returned to Westeros, now Dempsie has to deal with “a whole raft of new secrets” about the show’s epic final season.

“[It] never really lets up, the pressure to keep your mouth shut when it comes to anything to do with Game of Thrones,” he said.

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78 Comments

  1. ..second
    !!!

    Probably has something to do with fighting and Arya. Doesn’t seem like they’re going with the Valyrian steel angle…though, it’ll be the first time he has access to dragon fire.

  2. Clob,

    The newest photos of Dempsie I can find show him with slightly longer hair, more like in the early seasons. But I agree: Gendry should have a hair style reminiscent of his father. Even if that means Dempsie wearing a wig.

  3. Cue the followiing fan service posts: Gendry will be legitimised, he will reform the Baratheon line (even though that line is extinct and was never important in the first place), The last battle will be at Storms end (never seen on the show). Oh, and who can forget.. Gendry and Arya will get married, reform the Baratheon line, unify the seven kingdoms and sail off West into the sunset on a Stag shaped ship! 🙈🙄😂

  4. Apollo,

    It’s not like Gendry is one of my favorite characters, but I’d be surprised if at least one of those doesn’t happen, especially the legitimization.

  5. Well since Gendry was still pouting about Melisandre years after their encounter (and retconning what actually happened) while whinging in S7, I figure he’s going to play a role in Mel’s demise.

    If there’s any “divine justice”, Shireen’s cousin will toss Mel into the flames of his blacksmith’s forge. “The Lord of Light told me to do it. Bye Felicia.”

  6. Ten Bears: and retconning what actually happened

    I hope you aren’t saying she didn’t force herself on him just because he consented at first (consent can be recanted; it’s still assault.) I’m sorry if that’s not it, but I can’t think of anything else that could be interpreted as a ret-con.

  7. From rowing several years to breaking Westeros record in a marathon. What will he do in next season. Fly without wings maybe?

  8. I honestly don’t see there being any “great houses” left after the war for the dawn. Otherwise, what’d be the point about breaking the wheel etc? Reinstating the nobility would just be more of the same: ruling families, tramping on the poor, forcing the smallfolks into wars not of their own making.

    Besides, I can’t see Jon being pro legitimisation, as surely it’d be a slight on his own bastard status (albeit historical or even untrue, he still lived all his life as an apparent bastard-legitimising Gendry would undervalue Jon).

    Luka Nieto:
    Apollo,

    It’s not like Gendry is one of my favorite characters, but I’d be surprised if at least one of those doesn’t happen, especially the legitimization.

  9. Apollo,
    How about Gendry and Arya will form a mummers troupe and travel around Westeros in a carriage performing at all the inns and other venues.

  10. Good. Gooood. *taps fingers together, chuckling*

    I just hope he’s cut the caffeine a bit this season.

  11. Luka Nieto,

    He left out the part where they had sex and he was enjoying it as she rode him like a Dothraki horselord. I’m not saying it was “consensual”, since she concealed her motives. Just that when he was recounting the story to his fellow Wight Hunters, he only said she stripped off his clothes, tied him to the bed, and put leeches on him.

    Later on, he told Davos he was okay; it was “only a little blood.” He was more upset that he got bamboozled by a seductress into thinking he was somehow special, instead of a gullible schmuck from Flea Bottom.

    I don’t want to reignite a debate on consent and sexual assault. I’ll let others compare the scenes and dialogue, and decide.

    And again, I suspect the show had Gendry bring up his encounter – in the company of seasoned warriors who had suffered far worse – to set up his role in Mel’s future reckoning.

  12. Clob:
    Apollo,
    How about Gendry and Arya will form a mummers troupe and travel around Westeros in a carriage performing at all the inns and other venues.

    Or go west of Westeros with their troupe? Yes, please!

  13. Luka Nieto,

    For what it’s worth, here’s how Gendry described his encounter to Davos:

    S3e10 Gendry and Davos

    Davos: “How are you keeping?”
    Gendry: “Great. Never better. It was just a bit of blood. I should have known. Every time a highborn asks my name, it’s trouble. We’re not really people to you, are we? Just a million different ways to get what you want.”
    Davos: “I’m not a highborn.”
    Gendry: “She called you ‘Ser.’ I heard it.”
    Davos: “A recent state of affairs. I was born in Flea Bottom just like you.”
    Gendry: “Sure, you were. You’re my friend. You’re here to help.”
    Davos: “I lived below the Street of Flour.”
    Gendry: “How far below? How close to the Red Keep were you?”
    Davos: “The sh*t that poured from their privy pipes flowed down the side of Aegon’s Hill along Tanner’s Row and right in front of my front door on Gin Alley.”
    Gendry: “Gin Alley.”
    Davos: “The Street of Steel, with your armor and your knights? Pfft. You lived in the fancy part of town. And here we are now. Two boys from Flea Bottom in the castle of a king.”
    Gendry: “Yeah, we’ve come a long way. We’re all the same, really.”
    Gendry: “She went to great pains to point that out to me.”
    Davos: “If you mistrust fancy people so much, why were you in such a hurry to trust her?”
    Gendry: “You’re me. Never been with a woman. Never talked to a woman, really. And then she comes at you– big words, no clothes. What would you have done?”
    Davos: “She does know her way around a man’s head, I’ll give her that.”
    ***

  14. Gendry, oh Gendry. We had such high hopes for you, but D&D have written you as a newly aware of your heritage, angry, arrogant and douchey. They even cur your lovely hair.

    Arya? Not m’lady as was but my lady.

  15. Apollo:
    Oh, and who can forget.. Gendry and Arya will get married, reform the Baratheon line, unify the seven kingdoms and sail off West into the sunset on a Stag shaped ship! 🙈🙄😂

    Haha! Is it so wrong to want something nice for Arya after all the sh*t she’s been through? Also, the wanting of some good things to happen is what creates tension in the story. If you just want/expect bad things to happen, that takes much of the tension away. 🙂

    But more seriously though, do I expect this to happen? Probably not. And I will admit it doesn’t really fit in with the tone of what the ending should be.

    It is interesting to ponder what his role in the season will be though. I still think it will involve his smithing skills in some way rather than just being another fighter.

  16. In honor of Joe Dempsie/Gendry, here’s one of my all-time favorite exchanges in GoT. From S2e2:

    Gendry: “You know, you shouldn’t insult people that are bigger than you.”

    Arya: “Then I wouldn’t get to insult anyone.”

  17. Ten Bears,

    And later in the same scene….

    Arya: My name’s not Arry. It’s Arya, of House Stark. Yoren is taking me home to Winterfell.
    Gendry: He was your father, the Hand, the traitor.
    Arya: He was never a traitor! Joffrey is a liar.
    Gendry: So you’re a highborn, then. You’re a lady.
    Arya: No. I mean, yes. My mother was a lady and my sister.
    Gendry: You were a lord’s daughter, and you lived in a castle and you — Look, all that about cocks, I should never have said. And I’ve been pissing in front of you and everything! I should be calling you “my lady.”
    Arya: Do NOT call me “my lady!”
    Gendry: As my lady commands.
    (She pushes him down and stomps off; he laughs)
    Gendry: Well, that was unladylike.

  18. Gendey is Azor Ahai. First he was tempered in water and broke. When Davod sent him on a boat. Then he served the Lannisters. Through the heart of a lion and broke. Know he will kill Arya and his sword will light up and will kill the night king

  19. I do not think Gendry will re-invent Valyrian steel.
    I strongly believe that he will re-forge Heartsbane into arrow heads and possibly ballista bolts.
    I also hope that Sandor brings back his hammer and asks why it has Baratheon arms on it.

  20. I think he will reforge the ICE sword in the end[after Jaime/Breanne fall into battle] and will give it to Sansa and Arya after they rebuild Winterfell ..He will marry one of them..Sansa probably[because Arya will travel West of Westeros ..or will continue again to is a FM]and Lady Stark will Legitimize him with the help of King Jon and Queen Daenerys ..Lord of the Storms End..That will be the end of Gendry..THe Baratheon line needs to survive

  21. Before I clicked on the article, I knew there would be at least one commentator going, “Wah! Fan service!”

    Amazing how predictable haters are.

  22. Gendry should have one purpose only, IN THE FORGES of Winterfell!. Any other main plot for him is pathetic fan service. He should be the one who forges new Valyrian Steel, anything after that i dont care.

  23. Well, we pretty much knew they brought him back for some good reason. Though I never figured him to be end game when he rowed away, thought he’d probably be seen again for sure but not as a major player in the last season. I find it hard to care too much about his fate as he seemed more like a one season companion for Arya than full fledged character. That said, I wish they had not seemed to change his personality so abruptly. I’m happy for his fans that he will feature prominently but if they make him king at the end or have him kill the NK I won’t like that because in that case they should have built him up more over the seasons.

  24. Ten Bears: More whinging!

    Ten Bears:
    Well since Gendry was still pouting about Melisandre years after their encounter (and retconning what actually happened) while whinging in S7,

    Ten Bears:
    While you call it retconning, there are also those who interpret the scene differently. With empathy. I agreed with you on many other things, but here I have to strongly disagree with you (again). He left out the part which traumatized him (being assaulted and enjoying some of it, that’s trauma for an assault victim as I already explained elsewhere). And that also goes in line with what he said to Davos after what happened. Gendry didn’t trust Davos at the time. Why should he? Gendry had no reason to trust him, no reason to elaborate on it.

    Davos: “How are you keeping?”
    Gendry: “Great. Never better. […]“

    That‘s sarcasm…of course he is not „okay“ with what happened.

    Try to understand what I want to say, if you watch Mel‘s and Gendry‘s scene and you are so spiteful towards a fictional character, I cannot see you acting any other way if you were confronted with a real assault victim. The scene is made up, but there are real assaults that are very similar, not clear-cut. And if you were to react like you do with the fictional character Gendry then you were part of the stigma problem in regards to assault victims. Exaggerating: [sarcasm on] But sure, only those who „suffered far worse“ from your point of view deserve your compassion… [off].

    I mean, you really go overboard with showing how annoying Gendry is to you. You seem to never miss an opportunity to do so. One might say you are the one “whinging”. 😜

    Ten Bears,
    Great cue, this scene contains a bit which could be interpreted as Gendry being much more trustworthy than you give him credit for. 😉

    Arya: “Lommy and Hot Pie can’t know [who I am, that I am a girl]. … No one can know.”
    Gendry: “They won’t. Not from me.”

    He kept his word to Arya so far.

    And no, Gendry is not my favourite character (Arya is one of them). It wouldn’t be my preferred ending if Arya and Gendry wed. I wouldn’t mind, but I don’t see it. It’s far more likely imo that they rekindle their friendship and wander off, if they survive. I can’t see Gendry getting legitimized either. I don’t need that.
    Give him some scenes with Brienne (seeing ghosts: “My lord…”) or the Hound (to Sandor: “You owe me a brandnew warhammer”). And of course Davos and Arya. Give him something to do as a blacksmith, show him fighting the AotD a little bit. And I would be happy. Just don’t degrade his character to a joke again. That’s my only real wish for his character in season 8.

  25. I want Gendry to meet The Hound again.
    Sandor says “here is your hammer, by the way why does it have a Baratheon crest on it?”

  26. If you send an apprentice of the best blacksmith, who just happens happens to be the bastard son of the King, off to safety in a rowboat for years then bring him back just before the war for the Dawn, it would seem a literary miss not to have him forging effective weapons and being somewhat princely.

  27. ygritte,

    We all expect GoT to throw twists and turns at us, but Gendry being king at the end and/or being the one to kill the NK is just so out there that I can’t see that happening even in the slightest. That would be such a strange ending given his relatively minor character status over the course of the series.

    I am curious to know what his endgame role will be assuming he survives. I could see him either accompanying Arya on her adventures or taking up his ancestral home at Storms End. During the war he’ll be fighting and smithing.

  28. Cliohna,

    To be clear, Gendry was specifically “whinging” about the Brotherhood selling him to a red witch to be murdered:

    S7e5 (Beric, Thoros, Sandor, Tormund, Jon, Gendry & Davos: Eastwatch cells)

    Tormund: “They want to go beyond the Wall too.”
    Beric: “We don’t want to go beyond the Wall, we have to. Our Lord told us that the Great War is coming– “
    Gendry: ”Don’t trust him. Don’t trust any of them. They’re the Brotherhood. And the last thing their Lord told them to do was sell me to a red witch to be murdered.

    ————————-
    S7e6 (Gendry, Sandor, Beric and Thoros “Beyond the Wall”)

    ****
    Gendry: “She wanted to kill me! They would have killed me if it wasn’t for Davos –”
    Sandor: “But they didn’t, did they? So what you whinging about?”
    Gendry: “I’m not whinging.”
    Sandor: “Your lips are moving and you’re complaining about something. That’s whinging.”
    (Sandor motions to Beric)
    Sandor: “This one’s been killed six times. You don’t hear him bitching about it.”

    —————–
    As for Gendry’s encounter with Melisandre, no matter the label, severity or order of events, it’s undeniable he was the victim of an assault. I did not mean to imply he wasn’t. He was subdued, she put leeches on him without his consent, and she ignored his protestations to get them off him. By definition, that’s assault, regardless of anything volitional that preceded it.

    I speculated that Gendry brought up his encounter with Mel to set up his possible S8 function: to play a role in Mel’s demise (e.g., it would be “divine justice” if Shireen’s cousin throws Mel into the flames of his blacksmith’s forge and says: “The Lord of Light told me to do it. Bye Felicia.”)

    I did not intend to come off as insensitive. Consider me duly chastened. I have read your comments carefully, and will be more circumspect in the future.

  29. Cliohna,

    On another note…

    Just don’t degrade his character to a joke again. That’s my only real wish for his character in Season 8.

    I really liked the unflappable, loyal Gendry of S2-S3, who didn’t flinch when he was subjected to the rat bucket torture; the Gendry with the playful sense of humor despite his predicament (“As my lady commands”…. “Well that was unladylike”); the Gendry who stood up for the little orphan “boy” being bullied.
    It just seemed like he had a completely different personality in S7. And a buzzcut.

  30. Colin Armfield:
    I want Gendryto meet The Hound again.
    Sandor says “here is your hammer, by the way why does it have a Baratheon crest on it?”

    We didn’t see it but I would say they’ve already been together – on the ship from Eastwatch to Dragonstone where they dropped Gendry off and picked up Tyrion and the others to go to KL.

    It all goes back to the Wall and some people believing Gendry stayed at Eastwatch and was there (below) when the Wall fell. I didn’t believe that because Gendry joined to help Jon fight not sit at the Wall with strangers. Well, he’s alive which nearly confirms that he left with the rest. We just didn’t see him on the ship… OR DID WE? When Jon is put in bed on the ship we see Davos removing Jon’s frozen clothing and another person’s back helping him that looks more like Gendry than anyone else. We don’t see Jorah or Sandor on the ship so maybe they didn’t get on… 😛 We just know they did.

  31. Ten Bears:
    Clob,

    Didn’t we see Sandor below deck in the cargo hold checking up on his buddy in a box?

    Nope. That was post-Dragonstone stop as they were arriving at KL. They showed him below after they see Euron’s fleet in the bay. The only scenes we had prior were putting Jon on the bed and him waking up with Daenerys sitting next to him. Like I said though, we know Sandor and Jorah returned with them because we saw them at the Dragonpit. We just didn’t see them before they were arriving at KL. Gendry of course wasn’t needed there and shouldn’t have gone back there.

  32. Zeus:
    With the death of Stannis and Roberts fake heirs Gendry is the rightful king of Westeros.

    Gendry is a bastard. He isn’t legitimate and can therefore not be the rightful heir to the throne. There is also no proof of his parentage.

    There is no rightful heir to the throne right now. There is a sitting queen, who took it somewhat by conquest – which is what Robert did as well. We also have two heirs to the Targaryen line, which was an overthrown monarchy, so how rightful is that line anyway?

    I like the ambiguity of it all and I am very curious to see how it will end up, if there will even be a 7-Kingdoms at the end of it. I definitely don’t expect Gendry to be ruling it though.

  33. Che,
    Isn’t there proof somewhere though? How did they know which children were Robert’s bastards when they killed them in KL? How did they know to look for Gendry on the Kingsroad? How did Melisandre instantly know that Gendry was Robert’s son when she saw him? It doesn’t seem like too many or anyone is disputing the fact that he his Baratheon and Robert’s bastard son. Stannis believed it immediately. It would seem that besides one person’s diary there’s less proof about who Jon actually is. If Bran can “prove” Jon is Aegon he certainly can prove Gendry is Baratheon. Whomever ends up ruling could legitimize him.

  34. The show has made it pretty clear that it really doesn’t make a difference if you have a legit claim to the throne or not. Robert didn’t and he became king. Cersei didn’t, and she became Queen. If you can take the throne and have enough support to keep it, it’s yours.

    Legit or not, I don’t think Gendry would make for much of a ruler anyway, as he has no experience. Though, I do think he’d make for a great blacksmith/bladesmith for whomever is ruling.

  35. Mr Derp,
    … and there’s that.
    ——————
    I don’t expect Gendry to try or even want to make a claim for the throne though. My thought has always been that if anything other than running away with Arya is his endgame, it would be as Lord Paramount of the Stormlands in his seat at Storm’s End.

  36. Gendry has a double claim. Like Daenerys and Jon, he is a descendent of King Aegon V Targaryen a.k.a. Egg (Maester Aemon’s younger brother) and he is also a direct descendent of King Robert Baratheon.
    (King Robert’s grandmother was the daughter of King Aegon V)
    I don’t think Gendry will sit on the throne, but I wonder if it will have some importance somehow.

  37. Clob,

    Certainly a plausible idea. I just can’t see Gendry sitting there at the head of some table listening to all the lords of the Stormlands whinging about needing more masons to fix a leaky keep or something like that.

    My guess is that (if he lives) he’ll be with Arya exploring what’s West of Westeros (Super Westeros?), whether some consider that fan service or not, I don’t really care. That seems the most plausible outcome for him.

    Now that I think of it, maybe what’s West of Westeros is actually Essos. Perhaps there is nothing to the West. They’ll just circumnavigate the globe until they reach Essos on the other side and make a nice home in Braavos.

  38. Mr Derp: They’ll just circumnavigate the globe until they reach Essos on the other side and make a nice home in Braavos.

    Do Flat-Earthers that watch GoT believe this fantasy world is flat too? 😛

    I agree with you. It doesn’t seem like he’d be any more enthusiastic to be Lord Gendry than he would King Gendry. If he and Arya were to leave for West of at the end then maybe one day someone could write a followup story about their adventures. George would never get to it if his ASoIaF ends that way, but maybe another could get the rights to do it in the future. Shrug

  39. Clob,

    That would be a good setup for a spin-off adventure with Arya and Gendry.

    I want to see them visit Southos and Northos too 🙂

  40. I don’t think he will be legitimized as I think the entire feudal system of westeros will be crushed in the war with the White Walkers. Nor do I think he will marry Arya in a traditional way, tho I do think (hope)they might be lovers.

  41. debbie,

    “...Nor do I think he will marry Arya in a traditional way, tho I do think (hope)they might be lovers.

    ——————-
    Gendry does not deserve Arya. He flat out rejected her when she proposed “I could be your family.” (He may as well have answered: “Things are crazy busy at work with this new job. I don’t think I have time for a relationship right now.”)

    He never bought her dinner, told her she was pretty, baked her a cake, or sent her a present. But I know someone who did….

  42. Ten Bears,

    Gendry was probably using the “snub” technique there. Perhaps he thinks women are more attracted to the guy who acts like he doesn’t care rather than the one who seems more interested or desperate.

  43. Not to bring it up again, but… the whole missed opportunity or skipped dialogue between those of the seven that went beyond the Wall that know Arya… We have discussed all of their reunions with her, minus Thoros of course. With that though I do wonder if D&D will focus a bit extra on the subject as they must have seen or at least heard of viewers questioning the completely missing conversations of those men with Jon about her. I don’t know what I’d want to see on that. I mean, Arya running up to Gendry when she sees him and giving him a big hug has to raise questions. (No, that doesn’t seem like her nature anymore but go with it) Jon would have to be like, “You know each other!? You never said you knew Arya! How is that possible?” Isn’t it going to be a little weird for Jon? You know Gendry? Oh, you know Sandor? Oh, you know Beric? Doesn’t anybody tell me anything!?

    Then Arya says, “I also can speak High Valyrian, the tongues of Pentos and Lys (books training), create and detect poisons, can tell if a person is lying, fight with sword, knives or staff in the light or complete darkness and can wear other faces.” Jon’s heart doesn’t stop, his mind is just blown. 😛

  44. Clob,

    Yeah, I don’t think Arya giving him a big hug suits their reunion. That will be saved for her and Jon! I think the most appropriate tone for her reunion with Gendry will be a bit of awkwardness. I just want to see Gendry kind of stunned to see how Arya has grown up and become the person she is since they parted ways.

    It also sort of surprises me how divisive Arya/Gendry is. 🙂 There are a lot of people that want to see it happen (especially judging by the number and popularity of some YouTube video tributes of them), but there are also obviously people that are vehemently against it as being too fan-servicey. But there is good fan-service and bad fan-service, and this is at least good fan-service to me because there is substance behind it. You can trace foreshadowing of it all the way back to 1×01, not to mention all the other hints/signs and parallels with Lyanna.

    Like I said before though, I’m way less certain than I was before about any kind of marriage between them. If anything, they’ll sail off together.

  45. Enharmony1625,

    Yeah, I don’t like the “too fan-service” comments. Sometimes things that look like they could or should happen do actually happen because they’re suppose to. Just because it can be predicted shouldn’t make it fan-service automatically. There are people that call anything good that happens as that too. I find that goofy. Everything doesn’t have to be unpredictable or on the just okay side of good. 🙂

  46. Clob:
    Not to bring it up again, but… the whole missed opportunity or skipped dialogue between those of the seven that went beyond the Wall that know Arya…We have discussed all of their reunions with her, minus Thoros of course.With that though I do wonder if D&D will focus a bit extra on the subject as they must have seen or at least heard of viewers questioning the completely missing conversations of those men with Jon about her.I don’t know what I’d want to see on that.I mean, Arya running up to Gendry when she sees him and giving him a big hug has to raise questions. (No, that doesn’t seem like her nature anymore but go with it)Jon would have to be like, “You know each other!?You never said you knew Arya!How is that possible?”Isn’t it going to be a little weird for Jon?You know Gendry?Oh, you know Sandor?Oh, you know Beric?Doesn’t anybody tell me anything!?

    Then Arya says, “I also can speak High Valyrian, the tongues of Pentos and Lys (books training), create and detect poisons, can tell if a person is lying, fight with sword, knives or staff in the light or complete darkness and can wear other faces.”Jon’s heart doesn’t stop, his mind is just blown.😛

    Then, Arya continues: “I heard Lord Manderly announced ‘Jon Snow avenged the Red Wedding!’ Well, guess what…”

  47. Enharmony1625,

    I am squarely on Team Hot Pie. They are complementary, in a gender neutral way. He likes cooking, she likes martial arts. She’d be a good influence – get him a bit of cardio training each day. I could envision them growing old together, sitting in their rocking chairs:

    “The convection ovens are superb here in Winterhell.”
    “WinterFELL.”
    “You sure?”
    “I’m sure.”

  48. Ten Bears,

    I like that about the Red Wedding. One has to imagine they’ve heard “tales” of what happened. Who would ever suspect little Arya… besides Walder’s new wife of course. 🙂

  49. And Arya establishes a kind of summerschool, training people waterdancing and other interesting dancing techniques, while Hot Pie cares for their *****food.
    They would come along very well.

  50. Clob:
    Ten Bears,

    Can’t she have both?

    She’d have Gendry to make her weapons and armors (that she doesn’t need cuz she too damn fast to need it) and Hot Pie to feed her enough for her gigantic caloric needs while moving too damn fast.

  51. Clob,

    Exactly. I think the term “fan-service” is thrown around far too liberally with respect to GoT, especially when anything good happens or it’s something that the fan community predicted. I mean, look at how much fans obsess and theorize over everything. How is it possible that we don’t end up predicting at least some major events?

  52. Ten Bears,

    How about Podrick? If she takes his last name she’d be Arya Payne. How perfect a name is that for an assassin? Then we could have a spinoff show: “Arya ready for the Payne?” 🙂

  53. S7e5 (Eastwatch) Alternate scene

    Tormund: “They want to go beyond the Wall too.”
    Beric: “We don’t want to go beyond the Wall, we have to. Our Lord told us that the Great War is coming– “
    Gendry: ”Don’t trust him. Don’t trust any of them. They’re the Brotherhood. And the last thing their lord told them to do was sell me to a red witch to be murdered.”
    Ser Jorah: How do you know she is a witch?
    Gendry: She turned me into a newt!
    …. I got better….

  54. It’s starting to sound like Arya is going to turn into a Dominatrix rather than an assassin if she survives, lol.

    Or perhaps she could be Atomic Blonde 2.0, except without the blonde part.

  55. Ten Bears: “The Lord of Light told me to do it. Bye Felicia.”

    That thought is very funny btw.

    I did not intend to come off as insensitive. Consider me duly chastened. I have read your comments carefully, and will be more circumspect in the future.

    Now I am duly chastened, too. It was not my intent to chasten you. I rather have you understand my point of view than you being more circumspect, you know. Some of those “poor devils” are just imprinted on my memory back when I was a volunteer for a sort of “mental first aid” project that was aimed at young people who experienced violence.

    Ten Bears,
    I would have preferred if they kept his character the way it was, too (of course with a little bit of development, if it just stagnated during his absence, that wouldn’t have been right either). And I don’t like the buzzcut neither.

    Clob,
    Totally agree. Like I said, I don’t necessarily think A/G is happening, but I also wouldn’t mind…provided that it’s done the “right way” (yeah, I know, this does mean something different to everyone).

    Mr Derp,
    Hehe, I know what you mean. But I actually like the idea. Arya on the road with a little help from her friends. 🤔😁

  56. Chilli,

    100% agree w you. Moreover, if the fan theory way out on left field is true re Cersei being his mother then he certainly has first dibs. People forget or don’t know Baratheon’s have a Targaryen blood line. Maybe he has a gift he doesn’t know about/encountered bc he’s been living in flea bottom -the nice side of flea bottom apparently. He has escaped death a few times. DD combined Eric Storm’s character arc in Gendry, idk sounds like there’s more here. Imo, if this is the case, the character should have been developed more through the seasons, right now I don’t see him fit to rule. Apparently he is shooting many scenes in S8. I’m expecting the unexpected come S8.

  57. I see Gendry arriving in Winterfell from Dragonstone w the cargo of weapons. Arya takes charge telling people where to go, what to do, unaware of his presence giving him an order to which he replies, “As my lady commands!” 🙂

  58. cos alpha,

    I just re-watched season 3.02. After Arya, Gendry and Hot Pie were escaped from Harrenhall, Gendry bristled at Arya not have chosen different names to give to Jaqen, Jeoffrey or Tywin fx, she could have stopped the war, blatblatblat, and Arya replies, Jaqen had them released from harrenhall, why thehell is he complaining?
    After all it seems as if Gendry didn’t change over the years ;o)

  59. cos alpha,

    I think that was a valid question, not complaining. He was not automatically “right”, he was just thinking about the bigger picture and Arya more about their own escape, which is not automatically “wrong”.

    As Ten Bears described, they did change his character for season 7, at least they gave him a part which he didn’t have before: laughing stock.

  60. cos alpha,

    To be fair, in S2e8 Arya did try to get Jaqen to whack Tywin (who was riding off from Harrenhal), but Jaqen [paraphrasing] said he couldn’t guarantee when he’d kill Tywin. Arya said it had to be done without delay to prevent Tywin from attacking Robb.

    I admit I bring this up for another reason. It precedes one of my favorite Arya lines (when she tries to trade death wish #3 for Jaqen helping her, Hot Pie and Gendry escape from Harrenhal by give Jaqen his own name):

    “A man can go kill himself.”

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