Game of Thrones Season 7 Poster Unveiled!

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HBO finally unveiled the poster for Game of Thrones season 7 today! The key art for the new season leaves no doubt that petty family wars have been cast aside; there is only the Great War now, with the Night King staring us all down as winter arrives.

In addition to the regular poster, HBO has created an unsettling moving version of the poster:

What do you all think of the season 7 poster? I love the image of the Night King, and I think it’s a smart call. I dislike the show using the “GOT” abbreviation on official posterwork, but that’s my own pet peeve, and doesn’t keep me from loving the overall effect here.

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    1. I also don’t like the GOT abbreviature in the poster. And I kind of like it but would’ve loved it if it was the last season’s poster. They’re focusing way more on the WW than I would’ve expected this season.

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    2. I spot Jon Snow in his eye! There’s two other images in his pupil after but it’s hard to make out what they are. Maybe someone with a better eye will be able to tell.
      My current guesses are Daenerys then Cersei but I’m not sure

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    3. There is only one hype that matters. The Great Hype. And it is here!

      Love the new poster. I am excited and scared at the same time for the new season.

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    4. I wonder if we’ll ever hear the White Walkers speak to any humans. I know they have their Skroth language, but humans don’t understand it. How will the White Walkers and humans communicate? Or will they not communicate at all and keep it to fighting only?

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    5. Raul:
      Where is the trailer?

      Raul,

      When the sun rises in the east and sets in the west, when the seas go dry and the mountains blow in the wind like leaves, etc…

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    6. Beautiful poster, but I don’t know why focusing on the Night’s king, when he is not that relevant YET.
      Anyway, can’t complain. At least we are getting something. Expecting they drop a trailer by Thursday or Friday.

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    7. Mr Derp,

      Hahahaha. That cracked me up… I’m a faithful quiet WotW fan, don’t post much, but I read every article and comments and I kist,had to tell you I thought that was brilliant.
      I needed the laugh, so Thanks!

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    8. Nice. And creepy – take out the GoT logo, and it can almost pass as a poster for the Alien movies.

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    9. Honestly, does nothing for me.

      Hopefully the show can develop the White Walkers into a more interesting foe in the episodes we have left.

      I hope that the one flashback in “The Door” isn’t the only insight into their history.

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    10. What is wrong with focusing on the WW now? isn’t the great war coming? Its going to start this season.

      Edit: I think its the perfect time to remind casual fans.

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    11. Also

      I love this… its so amazing.
      Why did HBO chose today?????????? MY SENS FACE ELIMINATION TONIGHT!!!!! waa

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    12. HOLY SHIT!!!!!
      I think we really might be getting that trailer this week, also really cool Poster for season 7 ^^ a man is beyond hyped!!!
      Best birthday week ever, come on trailer <3

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    13. Sullied by Knight,

      Yeah,i’m a horror movie fan,so this is right up my alley,way better than a boring Cersei poster or whatever would have been,Cersei should only be the focus early on in the season .

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    14. Nice! I don’t think we are getting the trailer for a couple weeks though. They need something big for June.

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    15. I think this is one of the best posters that Game of Thrones has given us in advance of a new season. In fact, I think it might be my favorite piece of official key art since the original, iconic image of Ned sitting on the Iron Throne from Season 1. Granted, that’s not the highest bar to clear – some of the official posters have been pretty simplistic. But in this particular case, the simplicity of the image and the color scheme works to the poster’s advantage. It’s chillingly effective, and it will look dynamite as the Blu-Ray/DVD cover several months from now.

      With the release of the EW photos yesterday, another article with quotes from the showrunners today, and now this poster, it feels like the promotional machine for Season 7 is starting to push into a higher gear. It could be that this poster was the big event for the week, but I don’t think it’s crazy to wonder if this might be part of a greater rollout that’s building up to a trailer. If they keep give us something new tomorrow, my suspicions on that front will only increase. But regardless, at this point, I’d be very surprised if we don’t get the trailer by the beginning of June.

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    16. For me it looks like Jon is turning back towards someone – Dany, I guess. But one way or another, the showrunners again make their point that everyone lives in the blue eye of the giant and we know his name.

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    17. Buzzing! 😀

      Seen reflection of Jon but can’t see dany or Cersei but probably are there along with him as other two players.

      WINTER IS COMING!

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    18. Ross:
      Jenns,

      I hope Richard Brake is back but I’ve a feeling they’ll be sticking with Vladimir Furdik

      Same. I thought Brake had a much better physical presence. And the reason I ask is because that poster looks more like Brake’s Hardhome stare.

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    19. Matthew The Dragon knight,

      Interesting that only clear person in his eye is Jon. Might symbolic for Jon to be currently only one of three main players as Jon, Dany, Cersei to take this threat seriously or knowing about them at all. He poses the biggest threat to Night King.

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    20. Geralt of Rivia: He (Jon) poses the biggest threat to Night King.

      Perhaps, with his Valyrian steel and battle-hardened ice/fire lineage, he is the greatest threat…but Dany & Drogon will thaw NK out a bit. Also, don’t count out psychic Bran and bookworm Sam to contribute to the rhyme and reason behind the WW’s Ragnarok dreams and be key factors in the endgame. Knowledge is power!

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    21. Jenns: Same. I thought Brake had a much better physical presence. And the reason I ask is because that poster looks more like Brake’s Hardhome stare.

      That Hardhome stare though….one of my favourite scenes/moments ever. Richard Brake is just that bit more angular or something, I really liked him.

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    22. I will also contribute that I preferred the look of the Night King in Season 5 rather than Season 6.

      Something about the Season 6 version looked cartoonish or too much CGI or something.

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    23. “Hello Whisperers,

      A glimpse from beyond the Wall — the official Season 7 art.

      With Whispers of Westeros, you’re the first to get news of the Seven Kingdoms and catch early glimpses of all that’s to come. Remember, the birds sing in the west, the birds sing in the east, if one knows how to listen.

      Until the next song…”

      That’s what it said in my Whispers of Westeros email. What’s with the part about the birds?

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    24. Geralt of Rivia:
      Matthew The Dragon knight,

      Interesting that only clear person in his eye is Jon. Might symbolic for Jon to be currently only one of three main players as Jon, Dany, Cersei to take this threat seriously or knowing about them at all. He poses the biggest threat to Night King.

      or the only one the Night King knows about.

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    25. Geralt of Rivia:
      Matthew The Dragon knight,

      Interesting that only clear person in his eye is Jon. Might symbolic for Jon to be currently only one of three main players as Jon, Dany, Cersei to take this threat seriously or knowing about them at all. He poses the biggest threat to Night King.

      Also, Jon is the only one of the three the Night King has seen up close – and he seemed pretty interested in Hardhome when Jon managed to kill that White Walker with Longclaw.

      I do love the continuity from the Long Walk trailer, with Jon, Daenerys and Cersei in the eye of the Night King.

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    26. Pigeon,

      I feel like Brake’s Night King has more.. personality? No disrespect to Vlad, but he comes across as more wooden. Like in Hardhome, he almost came across as amused at how pathetic the wildling’s attempts to fight them was, and of course, the stare at Jon as he raises the dead..

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    27. Jack Bauer 24,

      Thats a quote from Varys (Mother’s Mercy, Season 5, Episode 10). He’s just intimating that anyone can obtain information if they know where to listen/look.

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    28. Hodors Bastard,

      I won’t count them out just yet but Bran and Sam to me on the show serves more like a support so far. It boils down to Jon and Daenerys as the ultimate heroes.

      No doubt all of them will contribute to the final conflict in some way Brienne, Hound, Jorah, Arya, Tyrion if they make it to that stage, but the lack of Bran in promo is telling. Always Night King, Jon, Daenerys and Cersei as the big four. Either, they’re saving him as the wildcard or perhaps his role is not as key as originally thought.

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    29. So the Season 6 poster was released February 24th and the first trailer March 9th. Two weeks apart. That would put us at June 6th for the S7 trailer. I’ve been thinking the first week of June anyway.

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    30. Winter is here, which can only mean one thing: it’s too cold for any more nude scenes. 🙁

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    31. Geralt of Rivia: Always Night King, Jon, Daenerys and Cersei as the big four.

      I always find it fascinating when Cersei gets equal treatment at the top of the endgame. Hmmm. It’s interesting to note that the use of wildfire has been used for two critical plot points, including Blackwater and the S6 finale. I wonder if it will be used again in the WW battle?

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    32. I wonder what he’s thinking. “Looks like a storm coming; I’ll probably just wait it out”, I’d guess.

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    33. In his eye is the reflection of Jon (turning) and a baby wrapped in brown cloth, i”m guessing it’s baby Jon. I could be very wrong, but that’s what it seems like to me and it would make sense after Hardhome.

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    34. Hodors Bastard,

      How many people said over the years how she’ll die and here we are. Still going on.

      Very good point with wildfire and combine that with her line about rather burning everything to the ground than let anyone have it. If white walkers do come close to King’s Landing, I could see her using it. She’s got left two things power and Jaime.

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    35. Catspaw Assassin,

      It’s only a matter of time before LF establishes a brothel at Winterfell and reopens Mole’s Town. Someone will need to carry on the lascivious needs of the undead.

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    36. Geralt of Rivia: combine that with her line about rather burning everything to the ground than let anyone have it. If white walkers do come close to King’s Landing, I could see her using it

      Yeah…either her or Tyrion…perhaps Maggy’s curse is intertwined in all that too!

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    37. Jack Bauer 24:
      That’s what it said in my Whispers of Westeros email. What’s with the part about the birds?

      Has anyone else gotten an email? I signed up for it but haven’t gotten one yet.

      Anyway, I love the poster. I too would prefer the full title over “GOT,” but whatever. Best poster since Season 1 in my opinion. Season 2 was cool with the outlines of men fighting within crown, but the posters for Seasons 3, 4, 5, and 6 were a bit underwhelming, However, I liked the individual character posters for Seasons 3 and 4; not a big fan of them for Season 6, where they had them as faces in the Hall of Faces. Hopefully we’ll get them for Season 7, too.

      I like how they’ve kept it simple, rather than doing the “Let’s see how many characters we can cram into the poster” approach that almost all major movie franchises do nowadays (look at the recent Star Wars posters, any Marvel movie, etc).

      I’m feeling a trailer this week. All this promotion feels like it’s leading up to something…

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    38. Dee Stark,

      Yes, I’m fairly certain that there are two subsequent images after the Jon one, but it is unclear what they show. My best guess is that it is Dany and Cersei (like we saw in the Long Walk promo), but it’s difficult to tell.

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    39. Hope this means Season 5 Night King actor is returning since they’re using his likeness in this poster but I won’t get my hopes up. He looked so much cooler than S6 guy.

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    40. “The key art for the new season leaves no doubt that petty family wars have been cast aside.”

      You mean the complex human drama that made the show a compelling piece of intelligent TV viewing? Yes, it certainly seems so.

      This along with the creators defending the likely simplistic and rushed ending even *ahead* of the season makes me suspect it will end up as the laughably childish action-and-cgi-heavy showdown between good and evil I always feared.

      They’ve already killed off most morally gray characters and hardly even have any antagonists left.

      Just what exactly is supposed to be the promised bittersweet element of the ending? The survival of humanity at the cost of Jon Snow’s life? Heavy casualties of the final battle and the protagonist’s ultimate sacrifice for the greater good IS the fantasy genre’s version of a happy ending.

      Seems they don’t even have the courage to let an antagonist get away with what they’ve done.

      Not the Game of Thrones I loved.

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    41. Kosten,

      Calm down. The point is that ultimately these battles between families seem kinda stupid when there are ice zombies bearing down on the Wall preparing to kill them all.

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    42. Hodors Bastard,
      Geralt of Rivia,
      Catspaw Assassin,

      I’ve just thought that if the Night King gets a jetpack or equivalent (those who follow spoilers know what I mean), he will be able to leave the North to his leuthenants and fly directly to King’s Landing. Taking into account that the southerners practice inhumation, rather than cremation there should be plenty of dead bodies for him to build his wight army. And then, whoether is in charge of King’s Landing at that moment, won’t have another choice but to “burn them all”. I just wonder if Cersei – this useful idiot – will try to go on the battlements and try to seduce the Night King, as she promised in S209?

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    43. I’m glad that the NK will never speak in the show. I really like that “character”. He is more like a metaphor for death and winter, than real character.

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    44. Kosten,

      Well aren’t you a charming person ? I wonder why do you even watch this show,i don’t remember you ever saying one positive thing about it,instead you are shitting on it every post you make,does that make you life better or something ?

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    45. At this point I think we’re unlikely to see a trailer before The Leftovers ends (on June 4th). HBO has clearly been focusing on building the hype for the ending of that show, and as Jack Bauer 24 points out, a trailer dropping around that time would be in line with how they’ve structured the marketing of new seasons in the past.

      Then we’ll have like 6 weeks to obsess over the trailer, which is just enough to make us antsy, but not so long that we’d be craving a second trailer. Given the shortened run and the importance of the events of this season, I doubt HBO would want to give too much away by having multiple trailers. One good and meaty one 6 weeks before the premiere sounds about right to me.

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    46. mau,

      I think Jon and Dany already are on the poster: it looks like someone is standing behind Jon (based on the shape of the forehead and height it should be Dany) and then Jon turns towards that person. Anyway, it looks like a lot of things this season will be shown as the Night King’s visions.

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    47. This show was never all about the action. Even the biggest scenes with dragons and WW were always about the characters.

      That won’t change in the last two seasons.

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    48. Kosten,

      I agree that the clash with the WW is likely to be a far more simplistic good vs evil situation than it will be in the books (if GRRM ever gets around to it that is), but I don’t think the showrunners will shy away from the bittersweet aspect of the ending.

      They’ve burned a little girl alive, had a main female character raped by a psychopath, blown up half the cast of KL in one scene, killed Rickon, etc…. The showrunners are clearly willing to embrace the darkness of the world even when they don’t have to.

      I doubt the ending will be all roses.

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    49. mau,

      I hope you’re right on the one hand, cause more trailers = more speculation and obsession, but I also kind of hope they play it close to the vest this year and let the show speak for itself.

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    50. I still feel like there is way more to explore about The Night King and the WW. In addition to the great war that is coming, I’m hoping that this poster also means we’ll get a little more of a backstory about these ice zombies.

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    51. Jenns,

      I hope you’re right, but unfortunately I doubt it.

      The time for more backstory would have been when they had the wonderful Max von Sydow and the children of the forest. They kind of rushed through that, and as a result I think we’ve seen most of what we’re likely to see of the pre-Wall era of Westeros.

      They didn’t even ever bother to really explain the conflict between men and the Children which led to the creation of the WW. Leaf was just like “We had no choice, you guys were attacking”. Show-only viewers have little to no context.

      Was it even ever mentioned before that scene that there had been a war between men and the Children ? Did we ever hear the Pact mentioned on the show ? The Isle of Faces ? The flooding of the Neck ? What happened to the Arm of Dorne ? The War for the Dawn ? None of those things have ever been mentioned.

      Show viewers are just left to sort of glean that there was some conflict with humanity that pushed the Children to do something extreme, and tada, the WW are born. The Night King of the show also seems to be a different person from the Night’s King of the novels, so I doubt we’ll ever know his identity in the show.

      I’d be thrilled to be proven in wrong, but I’m just not getting my hopes up for something like that. I’d expect the remaining seasons to mostly deal with resolution, and relatively little with backstory.

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    52. Inga: I just wonder if Cersei – this useful idiot – will try to go on the battlements and try to seduce the Night King, as she promised in S209?

      Oh, the plot thickens! Cersei’s arc shall have its fitting end! 🙂 However, as Cersei distracts the NK with her Westerland swamp, Dany and Drogon will swoop down and rain fire upon the fickle lovers. We’ll discover that Tyrion is actually Dany’s saddle during the final melee and he will die a happy man, serving the realm and achieving his fate as the valonqar!

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    53. Can anyone remind me of what woke the White Walkers in the first place? Was it a specific incident that preceded season one, episode one…or were they always there, waiting for their moment?

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    54. mau,

      If you don’t see why some of us think the show has taken a more simplistic approach when it comes to the morality in this series, there’s probably not much I can say to convince you, but here goes anyway.

      Suffice it to say they’ve systematically tried to make the conflicts more straightforward than they were in the novels, in terms of who is right and who is wrong. The Children of the Forest creating the WW to fend off men is a sign of something that has always been obvious to people who understand GRRM’s style, which is that the darkness within humanity is the true evil. WW are essentially a by-product of colonialism.

      The show has introduced this element as part of the backstory, which is great, but appears to be relatively uninterested in exploring what this actually means. It’s almost a throwaway line by Leaf that explains this all to us. The show doesn’t lend this revelation the weight it deserves. It seems like we’re in for a pretty run of the mill “defeat the evil zombies” type of narrative, and I just don’t think it’s going to be quite so simple in the novels.

      As always, I’m happy to be proven wrong, but that’s just my take based on what we know so far.

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    55. mau:
      I’m glad that the NK will never speak in the show. I really like that “character”. He is more like a metaphor for death and winter, than real character.

      In my opinion, that should had been the poster for this season, or something similar. But with this poster and both teaser trailers, they are implying that the night king and his army will become more relevant during this season (we know the way in which that might happen) but if that was true, it shoud be left as a surprise.
      Still, a very good poster. July 16 can’t come soon enough.

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    56. Brian,

      We don’t know why they are back. I do think something precipitated this. History is repeating itself, and GRRM obviously has a reason for this is happening now. Why, after 8000 years, are they back ? It’s meant to be a mystery. Magic in general is coming back. Now obviousy, in the world of Westeros, conventional wisdom would have as believe that the dragons are the reason for magic coming back.

      As we know from the very first scene of the show though, the WW came back long before the birth of Dany’s dragons.

      It’s mystery that definitely has an answer. Whether the answer will make it into the adaptation however, is an open question.

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    57. Markus Stark,

      But the WW are that simple in the books as well. You can’t make an army of the dead morally grey.

      It’s black vs wight in the concept.

      And that’s the reason why I think that the story will be how the humans will react to them, and not the war with them as the only focus.

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    58. mau,

      “But the WW are that simple in the books as well. You can’t make an army of the dead morally grey”.

      No, the army isn’t morally grey, but they were created for morally ambiguous reasons, and that needs to have an impact.

      You say it’s just as simple in the books, but we don’t yet know how it’s going to be dealt with in the books. So far it’s simple, but that will undoubtedly change.

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    59. Markus Stark,

      I don’t think that that’s a mistery that could have any compelling answer.

      GRRM is a gardner. When he created the WW he wanted to write a different story. And now the story has changed but he just lost control and he can’t incorporate his original concept of WW with the current story.

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    60. Loving the new countdown 🙂 the contrast between black and blue looks great. Really feels like winter.

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    61. Raul:
      Where is the trailer?

      Not ready yet?
      Which is presumably why we’re getting the poster and the photos yesterday instead.

      Looks like Jon is being reflected off the Night King’s eye, right?

      My prediction for the trailer is now mid-June…

      And given this poster, my prediction of the title for either episode 7.07 OR 8.01 is The Long Night…

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    62. mau,

      Everything you just said is a giant assumption. And most of it is counterfactual, since the sixth book is called The Winds of Winter, and GRRM indicated that the WW would feature in it prominently, and that we would go further North than ever before.

      There is literally no reason to think the WW have lost their place in the story. On the contrary, they are clearly hugely important.

      We may never see the final book, but we probably will see TWOW, and when we do, I’m confident the WW’s role in the story will be expanded upon.

      And I do think the answer could be compelling. Maybe you don’t care about the magic and the lore, but many people do.

      Anyway, you apparently don’t think much of GRRM, even though he’s the genius who created all of this, so I don’t see much of a point in continuing this debate.

      We’ll have to agree to disagree.

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    63. OT… in case you haven’t run across it yet.

      With certain GoT related internet searches you might see things about the death of the “real” Ghost. George tweeted about it and some sources ran with it as being the wolf that portrays Ghost on the show. It wasn’t Quigley in Alberta that died, but rather a wolf-dog at a New Mexico sanctuary that George helped name.

      http://mashable.com/2017/05/23/game-of-thrones-grrm-ghost-wolf/#Vh_cdMBCC5qP

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    64. Markus Stark:
      Jenns,

      Was it even ever mentioned before that scene that there had been a war between men and the Children ? Did we ever hear the Pact mentioned on the show ? The Isle of Faces ? The flooding of the Neck ? What happened to the Arm of Dorne ? The War for the Dawn ? None of those things have ever

      I’d be thrilled to be proven in wrong, but I’m just not getting my hopes up for something like that. I’d expect the remaining seasons to mostly deal with resolution, and relatively little with backstory.

      In the show we got the informations important to understand the plot. What you said is an interesting world building but nothing really important.

      The reason why the books exist is to provide those informations to people who want to know more.

      Or they can just watch show’s History and Lore clips.

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    65. mau,

      He has a reputation as a trope breaker because his story is very unconventional in many ways. Next time you read a series where the main character dies at the end of the first novel, let me know. It’s pretty rare. Stories that kill off an important father figure then proceed to make his son or student the hero, but that didn’t happen here either. The Red Wedding was the ultimate unconventional move, when 99% of other stories would have had the righteous son avenge his father.

      Anyway, you’ve obviously decided to pick on every comment I post, so now I’m back in the uncomfortable position I was in last year of having to argue constantly instead of being able to discuss things in a more relaxed and enjoyable manner.

      As I said before, let’s just agree to disagree.

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    66. Markus Stark,

      And fift book was called A Dance of Dragons, but that had nothing to do with the plot. Nothing major at least.

      I think you have the wrong assumption that the return of the WW is some kind of mistery. There is nothing in the books that indicates that there is some kind of mistery there. No character ever asked why they’ve returned.

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    67. Kosten:
      “The key art for the new season leaves no doubt that petty family wars have been cast aside.”

      You mean the complex human drama that made the show a compelling piece of intelligent TV viewing? Yes, it certainly seems so.

      This along with the creators defending the likely simplistic and rushed ending even *ahead* of the season makes me suspect it will end up as the laughably childish action-and-cgi-heavy showdown between good and evil I always feared.

      They’ve already killed off most morally gray characters and hardly even have any antagonists left.

      Just what exactly is supposed to be the promised bittersweet element of the ending? The survival of humanity at the cost of Jon Snow’s life? Heavy casualties of the final battle and the protagonist’s ultimate sacrifice for the greater good IS the fantasy genre’s version of a happy ending.

      Seems they don’t even have the courage to let an antagonist get away with what they’ve done.

      Not the Game of Thrones I loved.

      The unrealistic expectations built over 21 years of wait for George’s ending, as this post demonstrates, is precisely why George will likely never finish the novels.

      D&D’s version of George’s ending is likely the only one we’re ever going to get for this story, like it or not…

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    68. Markus Stark: We may never see the final book, but we probably will see TWOW, and when we do, I’m confident the W’s role in the story will be expanded upon. And I do think the answer could be compelling. Maybe you don’t care about the magic and the lore, but many people do.

      *raises hand*
      I have faith in Sam the Slayer. Many revelations are ahead of us in the Citadel and within the WF vaults.

      Besides the Hodor reveal, I found the CotF-created-the-WW revelation to be biggest story-reveal yet. Sigh. But will they go further into who was the mold for the WW, the Stark connections and why the WW/magics have returned? Maybe that is book-only territory. I assume the show will reveal how the WWs were originally defeated/countered by Azor Ahai, the magic behind the wall and the public dissemination that R+L=J.

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    69. Markus Stark:
      mau,

      He has a reputation as a trope breaker because his story is very unconventional in many ways. Next time you read a series where the main character dies at the end of the first novel, let me know. It’s pretty rare. Stories that kill off an important father figure then proceed to make his son or student the hero, but that didn’t happen here either. The Red Wedding was the ultimate unconventional move, when 99% of other stories would have had the righteous son avenge his father

      But Ned wasn’t a main character, and Robb wasn’t the righteous son that will avenge his father. Jon is both of those things. GRRM tricked us to think that Ned and Robb played a role in the story that they didn’t and that was a very smart move, but that doesn’t change the fact that the majority the story respects the rules of fantasy writing.

      Anyway, you’ve obviously decided to pick on every comment I post, so now I’m back in the uncomfortable position I was in last year of having to argue constantly instead of being able to discuss things in a more relaxed and enjoyable manner.

      Well, then you shouldn’t say the things that will always provoke the answer. Worshiping GRRM as some kind of god of literature, while trying to portray D&D as simple writers is hardly something that will go unanswered.

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    70. mau,

      Believe it or not, some people consider world-building to be important. The plot isn’t all that matters, and the show doesn’t really properly explain this aspect of the plot anyway. Plenty of excellent movies and TV shows go more in-depth than Game of Thrones does.

      World-building gives context, it makes the story richer, and it makes the plot more compelling because we understand the world it’s happening in. Compelling backstories are a staple of good writing, so I don’t know why you’re acting like it’s unnecessary fluff or something.

      History and Lore clips are fine but pretty light on substance. Also, information that gives direct context to the central plot should be in the show itself. Bonus materials should be for more peripheral information.

      Finally, it’s kind of hilarious to say that the reason the books exist is to give more information about the show.

      The books are 15 years older than the show. The reason the books exist is to tell a story. The show is trying to do the same thing and needs to stand on its own. It shouldn’t rely on people going to the books for important information. The show is supposed to be an adaptation, not a Cliff’s Notes summary.

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    71. Geralt of Rivia:
      Hodors Bastard,

      How many people said over the years how she’ll die and here we are. Still going on.

      Very good point with wildfire and combine that with her line about rather burning everything to the ground than let anyone have it. If white walkers do come close to King’s Landing, I could see her using it. She’s got left two things power and Jaime.

      Oh, just remembered…

      Congratulations to you Geralt of Rivia, for having your The Witcher TV series having been approved by Netflix! LOL

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    72. mau,

      GRRM is not a God of literature, but he is in my opinion an excellent writer.

      D&D are not as good as he is in my opinion. As for their writing being more simple than his, I don’t know how you can deny that. Even the biggest supporter of their writing has to acknowledge that. It’s just a fact. The show IS far more simple.

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    73. mau,

      Ned was the main character of the first season and first book. He was the central protagonist by every conceivable definition.
      Robb was his son, and he was righteous, and he was trying to avenge him, so yes, he was the righteous son. The fact that he dies is unconventional, as usually such a character would prevail.

      Their deaths don’t retroactively change the fact that they were important characters who would usually win in other stories. That’s why their deaths are so unpredictable and have gone down in literary history as some of the most shocking twists of all time.

      Denying facts is not going to get you very far, my friend.

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    74. Markus Stark:
      mau,

      Believe it or not, some people consider world-building to be important. The plot isn’t all that matters, and the show doesn’t really properly explain this aspect of the plot anyway. Plenty of excellent movies and TV shows go more in-depth than Game of Thrones does

      I believe that there are people who consider world-building to be important and those people should read ASOIAF and TWOIAF.

      I don’t think that there is one show in the history of television that had more storylines that GoT, so to say that many shows go more in-depth than Game of Thrones does is hardly true. Of course there are shows that have deeper storyline or two, but as a whole there is no show with this much characters and plots.

      World-building gives context, it makes the story richer, and it makes the plot more compelling because we understand the world it’s happening in. Compelling backstories are a staple of good writing, so I don’t know why you’re acting like it’s s or something.

      It’s not always a fluff, but this show had something like 11 storylines last season and you are acting like Bran’s storyline was the only one.

      The books are 15 years older than the show. The reason the books exist is to tell a story. The show is trying to do the same thing and needs to stand on its own. It shouldn’t rely on people going to the books for important information. The show is supposed to be an adaptation, not a Cliff’s Notes summary.

      But the show is standing on its own. Only hardcore book fans are asking for more informations about CotF. For show watchers everything that they’ve got was enough to understand the plot.

      The Isle of Faces and the flooding of the Neck have nothing to the with this story, a story about Jon, Dany, Tyrion, Sansa, Arya, Cersei, Jaime, and the rest.

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    75. mau: And fift book was called A Dance of Dragons, but that had nothing to do with the plot. Nothing major at least.

      Not this again…
      Seriously, A Dance With Dragons (note the use of ‘with’ and ‘of the’ in between Dance and Dragons…two very different things in the lore! 🙂 ) focuses on three different dragon-related plotlines…

      one a Targ/Martell combo (Dany), one a Targ/Stark combo (Jon) and one a possible Aerys heir or Blackfyre (Young Griff)

      “Dragons” could also be attributed to the rising prominence of other key players as well. I thought it was an excellent book title that covered the “dances” on the various continents.

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    76. Markus Stark,

      The main characters can’t die in a story. Until the end at least, because every story is about the main character(s). So the fact that Ned died means that he wasn’t the main character and that GRRM used a smart trick to make us believe that he was.

      The main characters in this story are Jon and Dany, and they are safe and alive, and they will be alive until the very end.

      Robb was a minor character in the books, he didn’t appear that much, so I don’t think that anyone assumed that he was the main character. In the show he had a much bigger role, so D&D used that trick twice.

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    77. Ross:
      Pigeon,

      I feel like Brake’s Night King has more.. personality? No disrespect to Vlad, but he comes across as more wooden. Like in Hardhome, he almost came across as amused at how pathetic the wildling’s attempts to fight them was, and of course, the stare at Jon as he raises the dead..

      That’s my impression as well. ☺

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    78. Markus Stark:
      mau,

      GRRM is not a God of literature, but he is in my opinion an excellent writer.

      D&D are not as good as he is in my opinion. As for their writing being more simple than his, I don’t know how you can deny that. Even the biggest supporter of their writing has to acknowledge that. It’s just a fact. The show IS far more simple.

      The show is more simple by the definition of the medium, but I’m speaking about D&D’s writing where they have a better understanding how to create and structure a story.

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    79. Mr Derp: Raul,

      When the sun rises in the east and sets in the west, when the seas go dry and the mountains blow in the wind like leaves, etc…

      No that’s for TWoW.

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    80. Damn that poster is creepy as hell, it’s pretty cool. Though I admit I was hoping for a more character central poster but I suppose we’ll get that on the EW Cover when they release it.
      I’m hoping getting two official GOT teases two days in a row means we’ll be getting the trailer soon as this season they’ve usually released teasers on a Thursday but we’ve gotten these two earlier in the week.

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    81. Markus Stark:
      mau,

      He has a reputation as a trope breaker because his story is very unconventional in many ways. Next time you read a series where the main character dies at the end of the first novel, let me know. It’s pretty rare. Stories that kill off an important father figure then proceed to make his son or student the hero, but that didn’t happen here either. The Red Wedding was the ultimate unconventional move, when 99% of other stories would have had the righteous son avenge his father.

      Having an ending to your story is very cliched.

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    82. Okay I watched the animated poster a few times and although it’s small I’m pretty sure I see Dany after Jon at 0.3 and when I say Dany I mean I can see her wig lol

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    83. Mel,

      The last one does look like Cersei and it may be my imagination but to me it looks like a shot above her as she’s laying on a bed…

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    84. I happen to first see the poster on one of the fan pages I follow on instagram. Rushed here immediately!

      And I gotta say the poster has really grown on me. I love it so much. TBH though, i’ve loved WW aspect of the story right from season1 episode 1 scene1.

      I ‘d be lying if I said there isn’t a part of me that is terrified that the whole story is going to boil down to humans defeating the whitewalkers end of story kind of sh*t….but I take solace in Wimsey’s confidence. Wimsey genuinely doesn’t think it’d play out that simple.

      And for the NK actors, I actually prefer S6 NK. Lol I might probably be the only one but I thought S5 NK’s face was simply too ‘plain'(?) he’s not nearly as terrifying s6 NK who has his blue eyes deeper down his face. I dont know how exactly to put it, lol.

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    85. I’ve been fascinated with the Others since the first scene of the pilot episode introduced this world to me. I can’t wait to see more about what they can do!

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    86. Sansa’s Knight:
      RIP Ghost

      If you’re referring to the wolf-dog named Ghost by George that died at the New Mexico sanctuary, it wasn’t Quigley that’s played the direwolf in GoT. If you mean something else then nevermind. 😛

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    87. George,

      On one hand exciting news because it’s Netflix and people behind the project. Sceptical due to the fact that gaming adaptations are usually pretty bad. Max Payne, Assassin’s Creed, Hitman to name a few.

      Inga,

      Cersei seducing Night King? Scary thought and paralle to Jon and Daenerys. If they do get together. Hot damn.

      Hodors Bastard,

      Ever since valonqar has been omitted from the show, I do wonder about her fate. Will she try to ally herself with Night King or blow them up when coming close to King’s Landing? That’s what I love about Cersei, she is a very unpredictable character.

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    88. OMG!! Jon is a marked man. And worse, it’s The Night King who targeted him. Apparently, Jon Snow killing one of his lieutenant with Longclaw doesn’t bode well for the Night King.

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    89. My goodness. All the passionate discussion about who was the better Night King.

      Clearly, he should have been played by Ron Perlman.

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    90. Alan the Tall,

      …and to me they are pretty boring, the WW, ever since D&D insinuated they won’t have complexity but just to be a force of nature, symbol of death or whatever.

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    91. Geralt of Rivia: On one hand exciting news because it’s Netflix and people behind the project. Sceptical due to the fact that gaming adaptations are usually pretty bad. Max Payne, Assassin’s Creed, Hitman to name a few.

      They’re adapting the novels, not the videogames.

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    92. Geralt of Rivia,

      Yup
      Jon poses the biggest threat to the white walkers, he has Long Claw, Killed one of his men, and is doing everything in his power to stop him, he also has the North and the Vale backing him.

      Dany is another threat he probably doesn’t know about yet, Three Dragons is a pretty big deal. After seeing his face when Jon killed one of his men, imagine The Night Kings face when a Dragon appears on the scene.

      Cersei on the other hand probably has some Wild Fyre left over, but being who she is probably won’t care or won’t do anything if the Night King appears, plus qyburn can probably come up with some pretty bad ass weapons to help fight the white walkers.

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    93. Matthew The Dragon Knight:
      Dee Stark,

      Yea they are, but it’s fine.
      Just shows how awesome Game of Thrones is.

      Yep, they can go ahead and plagiarize and mimic all they want. Tons of people still watch TWD, including myself when I get around to it, but the slow pace and cyclical story is just a chore to get through. I suppose they’re all miffed sitting on their 2 emmy wins (for makeup) and just 15 nominations against the GoT juggernaut with 38 wins and 110 noms. 🙂

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    94. Hey, fellow Watchers. I was just perusing the Guardian (UK) and…they have an article called “Watchers on the Wall’. It’s about the leaders of major fan sites, naturally including our very own Sue Miller (AKA Sue the Fury). The other sites mentioned are for Dr Who and Twin Peaks. Good on you, Sue! You’ve gone international.

      I’m sure you all share the horror at the incident in Manchester. The fact that the dead and injured were mostly young people makes it especially horrific. A month ago Maisie Williams was clubbing in Manchester. Sophie Turner was in Cannes with JJ last week.
      These days, to quote a Girl, “Anyone can be killed.” Be careful out there.
      SRR

      The URL for the article is: https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/tvandradioblog/2017/may/24/tv-fan-sites-game-of-thrones-doctor-who

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    95. zod,

      What I meant is, people who made games are in the team that is working on it and took also some inspirations from it. Games and novels are different (Ciri arguably most important in the books, more monsters in the games,) when you read/watch it and they want to take the best of the games, but mainly model it around novels (five novels and three short stories)).

      Again, these sort of moves to adapt this is what many people are afraid of how it might not end well. Games made The Witcher even more global, successful and now people including me fear, how this will turn out.

      Matthew The Dragon Knight,

      He has the knowledge but I do wonder where is Bran in this? He know more than anybody and probably the most powerful weapon along with dragons. Other than that I agree the way you’ve describe Daenerys and Cersei. Jon, Daenerys and Cersei are three big players left in this game. Although, people might point out Littlefinger and Varys.

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    96. Geralt of Rivia: He has the knowledge but I do wonder where is Bran in this? He know more than anybody and probably the most powerful weapon along with dragons.

      I wonder… There doesn’t appear to be any limitations in time that Bran is able to see. Couldn’t he “visit” the Battle for the Dawn 8,000 years ago and get some ideas of how men were able to drive back the Others/WW enough to build the Wall? Of course there were other “things” that aided them that the living probably don’t have, for the time being at least. So far he doesn’t have the ability to be so precise in what he sees I guess though.

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    97. I’m sure others have too but I just got a Whisper e-mail for an official trailer but the YouTube link says it’s unavailable. 🙁

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    98. Clob:
      I’m sure others have too but I just got a Whisper e-mail for an official trailer but the YouTube link says it’s unavailable.

      Wait wait what !?!?!?!
      Time to check my emails!!!
      Could it be today ? The hype is real!!!

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    99. Geralt of Rivia,

      I think the matter of quality will be determined on how much $ Netflix is willing to put into this series. If they treat it with love, the Witcher could be every bit as big as GoT! Moral ambiguity, politics galore, great characters, and for those that like it in their shows…..loads of nudity.

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