HBO releases new info about Game of Thrones episodes 606 and 607

poster1The titles of these Game of Thrones episodes were released a couple weeks ago, but now we have more info about the sixth and seventh episodes of season 6!

Today, HBO officially released the episode synopses, and confirmed that both episodes will be written by Bryan Cogman. The episode descriptions tease the return of old enemies and include at least the taste of one catchphrase that will leave viewers (and book-readers especially) gagging for more.

Let’s get right to the good stuff, shall we?

Episode 606, titled “Blood of My Blood,” will air on May 29th.

The official synopsis: An old foe comes back into the picture. Gilly (Hannah Murray) meets Sam’s (John Bradley) family. Arya (Maisie Williams) faces a difficult choice. Jaime (Nikolaj Coster-Waldau) faces off against the High Sparrow (Jonathan Pryce).

The episode is written by Bryan Cogman and directed by Jack Bender.

Episode 607 will be titled “The Broken Man,” and will make its debut on Sunday, June 5th.

The official synopsis: The High Sparrow eyes another target. Jaime confronts a hero. Arya makes a plan. The North is reminded.

This one is also written by Bryan Cogman. This is the first season 6 episode directed by Mark Mylod, who helmed 2 episodes in season 5.

Well, these synopses are juicier than some of the ones we’ve seen in the past, as vague as they still are. We can look forward to meeting the Tarlys in episode 6, and as for that old foe, I have a feeling that might be the first sighting of Walder Frey this season.

In episode 7, the title seems like a sure reference to a speech from the books but the synopsis avoids mentioning that character, probably for good reason. But I think we can look for Ian McShane in this episode. Jaime confronting a hero makes me wonder if we’ll be seeing the Blackfish back around this point in time.  And as for the rest….the North remembers, indeed.

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317 Comments

  1. Torienne!

    How and when is Daenerys going to make her way back to Westeros? Feels like it’s time for her to join the fray…

  2. I wonder who the old foe is in episode 6 and who the hero Jaime meets in Episode 7. Very intriguing indeed….

    EDIT: The old foe could very well be Walder Frey.

  3. Holy fuck. Tarleys and Freys ep. 6.

    Septon Mer-elder Brother and Blackfish and Manderly (possible gravedigger) ep 7.

    This season man.

  4. ” The North reminded ” ?

    Wayman Manderley

    Sounds like big two episodes for Arya I’m excited about what will they title the 9th episode

  5. I cannot wait for the Broken Man!

    The Hound will return! A better and different man probably 😀
  6. The old foe…the Others (aka White Walkers) strike again?
    “Blood of my blood” seems more a reference to family ties and not so much to Dothraki oaths of allegiance, after all.

  7. ” Jaime confronts a hero”

    If the rumors that Tommen and Margeary convert to faith and people are cheering them, are true, then I guess the “hero” could be Tommen
  8. “The North is reminded.” Yes!!!!!

    These are much better synopses too. Particularly interested by the Arya parts, although I can’t wait to meet the Tarlys (it must be important if we’re being introduced to them now, and James Faulkner looks like the perfect Randyll to me).

    Nice to see Bryan back for these two episodes. I didn’t think much of Mark Mylod last year as a director and was slightly surprised he was invited back, but I’m sure he will better this time.

  9. OMG I am so excited!!!!!! I really wasn’t that hyped for the first episodes, but I am reeeeaaally looking forward to eps 5,6 and 7. Bran and flashbacks, Jaime finally doing something, Arya doing something, epic speeches…And only R’hllor knows what come then!

  10. I’m thinking the hero Jaime confronts is probably the Blackfish.

    Either that, or Meribald.

  11. GET HYPE!!!

    “Arya makes a plan” I´m gonna think that the plan is to escape The House of Black and White and Braavos and return to Westeros, I think she is going to kill the Waif in one of their trainings, maybe thats why Arya was jumping like in a chase in the Trailer #2.

  12. I’m really curious to see how the Jaime/Faith story will go. It sounds like the big confrontation from the trailers, with the Tyrells, Jaime, and Mace at the steps to High Sept will be in 606. But the High Sparrow is still around in 607 and it sounds like Jaime is moving into his Riverlands plot in 607, which we also know is happening at some point this season based on the trailers. Also, who could the ‘hero’ be if not Blackfish? It won’t ‘The Broken Man’, he can’t come back and get into his big fight in one episode, and when he does fight it won’t be against Jaime.

    So what happens? Does something happen in 606 that makes him wash his hands of Kings Landing and leave for the Riverlands with the Lannister forces?

  13. “Jaime confronts a hero.”

    Brienne. Shortly after Pod accidentally kills Bronn for sneaking up on him.
  14. I’m already wearing my “The North Remembers” t-shirt.
    Also waiting for Horn Hill, the athmosphere there might be colder than beyond the Wall.

  15. I could be wrong, given how certain characters seem to travel quickly, but I don’t think Jaime will go from confronting the High Sparrow in Kings Landing in one episode to confronting the Blackfish in the Riverlands in the next.

  16. These episodes are just getting better and better so far, can’t wait for more.
    really looking forward to the episode titles for 8,9, and 10 ^^
    can’t bloody wait.

  17. Am I the only one who reads “the north is reminded” as a bad thing? Like reminded why they hate the Boltons, though I suppose they have been reminded of that often enough!

  18. Let’s hope “The North is reminded” is the Starks and allies recruiting supporters, especially the Manderlys and Mormonts, and not Ramsay reminding them that their treachery will be punished.

  19. Connor:
    I cannot wait for the Broken Man!

    Me neither, but hope his character hasn’t changed too much. The Hound/Arya road show back in S4 was great. It added a bit of humor with his occasional foul mouthed outbursts which I miss 😀

    We’ll just have to wait and see how things pan out…

  20. So hype! The “hero” probably is Blackfish, although I don’t know why they describe him as a “hero” even if we do consider him as a “good guy”. It could also be a confrontation of him and Brienne, or someone else that we think of as being heroic.

  21. House Mollohan,

    That’s how I took it as well, Jon and Sansa will need Northern allies. And they’ve mentioned on the show already that the Mormonts stay loyal to Starks.

    I could see maybe, Mormonts, Umbers, some of the mountain clan men Jon tells Stannis to find in the books joining their Wildling force. Just give me ep 9 already…BASTARD BOWL!!!

  22. Fez:
    So what happens? Does something happen in 606 that makes him wash his hands of Kings Landing and leave for the Riverlands with the Lannister forces?

    Cersei sends him, going by the trailer. But yeah, I’m not sure what sort of outcome in 606 would lead to him so rapidly pivoting to another plot in 607, particularly as it doesn’t sound like things in KL are remotely settled afterward.

    Regarding “The North is reminded”:

    When we first heard about “Fletcher” being cast and filming at the same time as the other lord, I figured that Team Stark would go to White Harbor. But it looks like the whole meeting of the Northern lords is occurring at Bear Island, which seems like it would kind of mute the impact of the “North Remembers” speech, seeing as that requires Manderly to have gone out of his way to show up at this meeting to begin with.
  23. Tarleyyyyyyyyyys.

    I wish they WOULD have taken a week off. I wait almost 10 months and the season just flies by. I hate how fast the time goes!

  24. Arya to still be in Braavos by episode 7 confirmed. I guess it’s the whole theatre troupe thing. She’s ordered to kill one of the actors, she refuses, The Waif comes after her (the chase scene in the trailer and from set reports), she kills her and flees to Westeros.

  25. Blood of My Blood
    An old foe comes back into the picture. Gilly meets Sam’s family. Arya faces a difficult choice. Jaime faces off against the High Sparrow .
    Old Foe has to =Walder Frey (gotta set him up so he can die in couple episodes lol) to get Riverlands back in the picture for next episode
    HORN HILL!! excited for this actually
    Ayra sees actors group and relaizes she isnt just “a girl” and decides to go back to Westeros is my guess
    and Jamie/Sparrow face off gonna be sweet

    The Broken Man
    The High Sparrow eyes another target. Jaime confronts a hero. Arya makes a plan. The North is reminded
    HS new target is Kevan or Oleena??
    BLACKFISH!!!
    Ayra escaping from Faceless men and killing The Waif (taking one name off her list) and heading home
    Northern Lords meeting with Davos/Sansa/Jon and agreeing to rise up against Ramsay..CAN NOT WAIT

  26. Sean C.,

    Lyanna Mormont will get a part of that speech and a part from his daughter/grand-daughter, forgot exactly what she is, the green haired one.

    Mandarly will join Ramsey and switch sides during the battle.
  27. I hope we’re still getting the Northen storyline in episode 6. I’m greedy lmao. Is there any chance we’ll see Jon and Sansa in this episode?

    I imagine Bran will take a break this episode (6 and maybe 7). I think Arya gets a mission and she will have to decide whether she’ll go through with it or not.

    No mention of Dany, even though the episode title screams Dothraki…. HBO is keeping everything on a tight leash. I’m worried about Ser Friendzone too.

    Who is the old foe???

    Also, do you guys think we’re getting Yara (and her brother) in these episodes? I need to see the aftermath of the Kingsmoot.

    “The north is reminded” about damn time lol.

    Sam/Gily…. ZZZZzzzzzz

    And that hero is definitely the Blackfish!

  28. The Broken Man + The North Remembers being in the same episode… Well, this seemed the only appropriate response…

  29. I hope I’m wrong, but when I read “the north is reminded” I got a bad feeling…. like they are reminded why you don’t rebel against the throne or something of that nature. Hopefully it’s more along the optimistic lines everyone else seems to be feeling.

  30. Why are so many people hung up on this travel thing? Who cares how long it takes to get from point A to point B….isn’t the important thing to get there? People really want to see countless roadshows? Why not get to the meat of the story instead of the mashed taters? When you watch a show in outer space, it actually takes a long time for space travel, but nope…we’ve invented warping time so there can actually be a themed show instead of just watching a space ship going from A to B. Who questioned that?

    The story isn’t about HOW someone gets from place to place, it is about what happens at where they arrive.

  31. Oh this could only mean two things. It could be the greatest episodes of all time in GAME OF THRONES (i.e. season 4 episode 6 the laws of Gods and men) or the worst episode in GAME OF THRONES (i.e. season 5 episode 6 unbowed, unbent, unbroken)

  32. Mihnea,

    No, that wouldn’t fit what we know at all. The actor playing Manderly filmed for a single day, the same day as the actor playing the character we’ve been identifying as Cerwyn. It was the second-last day of filming, well after Snowbowl was wrapped. There’s clearly some gathering of Northern lords where Manderly announces that he’s joining the Starks.
  33. Nice to have confirmation that Bryan Cogman will be writing Episodes 6 & 7. That means that we know the writing credits for the rest of the season, barring some unexpected surprise. Benioff and Weiss should be handling Episodes 8, 9, and 10.

    I agree that the old foe is most likely Walder Frey. I might have thought it could be either the Night’s King or Euron, except that we know that we’ll see them both in Episode 5 first.

    The hero that Jaime meets in Episode 7 is definitely the Blackfish. The synopses do ‘spoil’ – if you can call it that – Jaime and the High Sparrow both survive the confrontation at the Sept.

    Not sure who the High Sparrow’s other target is. Cersei would be more of an old target, to the extent that he ever took his eyes off her in the first place.

    Margaery will also be out of jail by then, and Tommen should have accepted the faith. Maybe it’s not a person – could he be eying the realm itself?

    No Sam and Gilly in Episode 5. That’s all right – their appearance would have been a quick one anyway. Hopefully they’ll get a decent amount of screentime in Season 6.

    Despite Maisie Williams’ claims that her storyline would be sparse this year, she’s been in three episodes so far (granted, her scenes were fairly short). We now know that she’ll be in 5, 6, and 7 as well. That’s six episodes already – which is just as many as she appeared in for Seasons 4 and 5.

    Filming spoilers also suggest that she’ll be in Episode 8 (unless those scenes were moved) and the finale. So if anything, her storyline more closely resembles her workload for Seasons 1, 2, and 3 in episode count, if not necessarily screentime.

    “The North is reminded” in the same episode as we meet “The Broken Man”? Awesome. Looks like we may get two famous speeches in that episode, then.

    Last, I noticed that while they relented and started including Jon in the promotional photos, they’re still doing everything they can to keep him out of the synopses. I wonder if that will last for the rest of the season.

  34. Mihnea:
    Pigeon,

    They wouldn’t have qualified for the Emmy’s if they did.

    Not true. At any rate, I’m saying what I wish happened, not what is. 🙂

  35. Do you think Arya will get the assignment to kill someone she knows/loves? To prove she’s really “no one”?

  36. Sean C.,

    They could have filmed this at different dates.

    Mandarly won’t ride in battle…. They could easly film him on a hill away from the battle….
    It does make me reconsider things.

    Eh, will see soon enough.

  37. Pigeon:
    Tarleyyyyyyyyyys.

    I wish they WOULD have taken a week off. I wait almost 10 months and the season just flies by. I hate how fast the time goes!

    There you did it, now you are going to be reminded that the show wouldn’t be eligible for an Emmy if they had taken a week off, which might be true, but totally misses the point you are trying to make. And I agree with you.

    I want this to last, not rush by as it is already doing. Having one precious week more would be swoon worthy. Already we are half the way through after this Sunday. For all the waiting, 10 weeks really flies by. And before we know it….BAM in your face waiting that long in-between of madness, where chaos ensues and boundless theories are brought forth. In other words, the OTHER fun begins. 😉

    “Piglets and pawprints!” cried Eatbugs, then paused and looked quickly around. He leaned toward his companions. “Let’s be off!” he added, his voice a conspiratorial whisper.”

  38. Episode 606, titled “Blood of My Blood,”
    An old foe comes back into the picture.

    WALDER FREY

    Arya faces a difficult choice.

    KILL ACTRESS

    Jaime faces off against the High Sparrow.

    AND WINS… OR SO HE THINKS

    Episode 607 will be titled “The Broken Man”.
    The High Sparrow eyes another target.

    KING TOMMEN

    Jaime confronts a hero.

    BLACKFISH or ELDER BROTHER

    Arya makes a plan.

    TO GET BACK TO WESTEROS

    The North is reminded.

    AS SANSA, DAVOS, MEL AND JON CONVINCE HOUSE MORMONT TO GET ON THE RIGHT SIDE
  39. Flayed Potatoes:
    I hope we’re still getting the Northen storyline in episode 6. I’m greedy lmao. Is there any chance we’ll see Jon and Sansa in this episode?

    There’s a chance, certainly, though it would probably just be some of Team Stark talking while on their way to Bear Island. Which may be useful to show, since there are some combinations of characters we haven’t seen much of yet (e.g., Sansa and Davos). As far as the Northern story goes, we know they leave the Wall in episode 5, they’re at Bear Island in episode 7, and in episode 9 we get the battle. So there’s a question of how much, if any, bridging material there is between those events (I’d be kind of surprised if they weren’t in episode 8, just because the show usually prefers to build up the big season-ending battle in the episode prior).

    Ben J,

    The Faceless Men aren’t allowed to kill people they know. That’s their most obvious limitation.
  40. I am very impressed with the way that the writers, directors, and show-runners are keeping elements of the books in play even though we are well past book territory- the “pink letter,” “the ‘broken men’ speech,” and what seems almost certain to be another classic bit of GRRM dialog with the north being reminded. A really wonderful treat for book readers, still.

  41. Flayed Potatoes,
    2nd part of TOJ flashback,(which they would not put in a synopsis so as not to spoil it) so Bran will be in it.
    TeamJon will have just a “catch up”( prolly not more then a couple minutes ) or may break for an episode (plans/leave The Wall this week and we see them again 2 weeks from now) …with TOJ happening I think we will all be ok with that 😉
    TeamDany same way as she had big moment last week and has another one coming up soon (getting back to Merreen)
    episode 6 seems to be be big KL episode

  42. About High Sparrow’s new target, I can think of two:

    1. Jaime. This will make Jaime go to Riverlands (we heard Cersei in the second trailer telling someone to go and lead the Lannister army).
    or
    2. Cersei’s trial. The High Sparrow will turn his focus on the trial.

  43. Sean C.,

    Thank you! I expect we’ll see some preparations for the battle in episode 8. Littlefinger also needs to show his face more on the show. I’d love to see Sansa interact with Davos and Mel. We also need a scene with Jon and Mel…..she’s making some bold assumptions isn’t she? No salt….no bleeding star….

    The Northern storyline has an interesting mix of characters.

  44. Mawk,

    Umbers are with Boltons. Mountain clans might be replaced by wildings. Mormonts, Hornwods, Cerwyn or Manderly seems realistic.

  45. selena:
    2nd part of TOJ flashback,(which they would not put in a synopsis so as not to spoil it) so Bran will be in it.TeamJon will have just a “catch up”( prolly not more then a couple minutes ) or may break for an episode (plans/leave The Wall this week and we see them again 2 weeks from now) …with TOJ happening I think we will all be ok with that

    I forgot, that’s actually a reason why I think Jon will be in episode 6, just because to me it would be weird to reveal his parentage in an episode that he’s not even in (which perhaps doesn’t logically follow, since Bran learning it has no connection to Jon, but symbolically, or whatever, it would feel off to me).

  46. selena,

    I want them in every episode haha. I won’t be ok 😛

    There’s just so much that needs to happen imo…. Davos and Mel’s conflict, Jon and Sansa making plans and catching up (I don’t think they know about the Umbers and Karstarks), Tormund doing something idk 😛

  47. The Broken Men and North Remembers speeches in the same episode. Woah.

    Walder Frey is back a bit earlier than I thought, episode six. Does this mean we’ll see the Riverlands before Jaime goes there? It seems a bit unlikely, doesn’t it? Maybe Walder Frey personally goes to King’s Landing to ask for Lannister aid? I don’t know…

    The only line that is a complete mystery to me is this:

    The High Sparrow eyes another target

    Who could that be?

    Fez: So what happens? Does something happen in 606 that makes him wash his hands of Kings Landing and leave for the Riverlands with the Lannister forces?

    That is a bit of a missing key motivation for me too. Considering the spoilers we heard from the set, the situation with the Faith is far from settled in episode six. So I do wonder what could drive Jaime away, specifically.

  48. Re: Travel Times

    I don’t want to see endless shots of people on horses. But an acknowledgement of just how vast Westeros is gives more heft and grounding to what is happening on screen. Making travel effortless and near instantaneous diminishes all that, and makes it seem like everyone is fighting over a small island, not a continent the size of South America.

    All they need is the ocassional throw-away line about how long the trips are, like they did in the first season when they got from Winterfell to Kings Landing in one episode.

  49. I don’t think “The North is reminded” is going to be Wyman Manderly and his speech. Like Mihnea said, I believe it will be Lyanna Mormont taking Wylla Manderly’s speech from the book:

    I know about the promise … Maester Theomore, tell them! A thousand years before the Conquest, a promise was made, and oaths were sworn in the Wolf’s Den before the old gods and the new. When we were sore beset and friendless, hounded from our homes and in peril of our lives, the wolves took us in and nourished us and protected us against our enemies. The city is built upon the land they gave us. In return we swore that we should always be their men. Stark men!

  50. MG: Can he reach the Riverlands in just one episode?

    He almost does in the book. In a single chapter he departs King’s Landing and arrives in Harrenhal, which is close enough to Riverrun. Not that this will stop certain book readers from forgoing the necessities of pacing on TV and resorting to the almost always silly “He’s using Littlefinger’s teleport, LOL!”.

    Tyrion Pimpslap,

    Who is code-name “Fletcher”, then? “A fat nobleman in his 60’s” with “distinctive rugged features, a Northern accent, and a distinguished air” who “has a stirring speech during which he unexpectedly shifts political allegiances”. If that’s not Manderly, who is it?

  51. House Mollohan:
    Let’s hope “The North is reminded” is the Starks and allies recruiting supporters, especially the Manderlys and Mormonts, and not Ramsay reminding them that their treachery will be punished.

    Bear Island doesn’t need reminding! They recognize only one King in the North and their name is STARK!
    lol Lyanna

  52. Old foe has to be Walder Frey. ‘Blood of my blood’ synopsis had no mention of Dany, but then, ‘Oathbreaker’ synopsis had no mention of Jon, so it does not say much. I am curious as to who High Sparrow’s new target is. Cersei, Margaery and Loras are already his targets. Could the target be Jaime? Other possibilities are Walder Frey (who betrayed a guest under his roof), Pycelle (who does not keep his oath of celibacy), Qyburn and unGregor (for obvious reasons). Since the title of episode 7 is ‘the Broken Man’, I guess the target will be unGregor, which brings Sandor into the picture.

  53. Flayed Potatoes,

    Sean C.,

    In addition to what Sean C described, there’s another reason to think that the Northern storyline will probably be in Episode 6. There’s a brief shot in the first Season 6 trailer showing Davos standing alone in the snow, starring down at a pile of wood. It appears to be the remnants of a pyre.

    I think that en route to Bear Island from Castle Black, Davos and company will stumble upon what remains of Stannis’s camp. Davos will discover the burned remnants of the stag that he made for Shireen amidst the ashes, and finally learn what happened to his Princess. The show foreshadowed that reveal via his conversation with Melisandre in Episode 4. It’s pretty much inevitable.

    To be fair, this could also happen in Episode 8, as the armies march toward Winterfell. We don’t know exactly how far between Castle Black and Winterfell Stannis’s army got stranded.

  54. Tyrion Pimpslap,

    Lady Lyanna is the head of her house, and already stated that they’re pro-Stark last season. To whom would she need to give such a speech?

    Jared,

    Considering Stannis’ army walked the rest of the way to Winterfell on foot, I would have to imagine their camp is very close to Winterfell, and not likely to be something Team Stark would run across on their way to Bear Island.

  55. The Broken Man can apply to so many storylines. I’m looking forward to its possible relevance in the Riverlands (!!!), Pyke (Theon), Meereen (Jorah), and the North (Davos, Jon, Hodor). Maybe Jaime too?

  56. This season has been amazing so far, and i only see better things coming! (best of all, i don’t see any inkling that Dorne is returning soon…)
    lol 😀

  57. Closing up so many sidequests fills me up with utter joy. It’s like that moment – that moment when you play an RPG, and you have finally uncovered the entire map, and have finally all the weapons you need, and all the components, and are levelled up enough, and you know which dungeon you have to go to to unlock the endgame… but before you do, you go around and start submitting sidequests. Sidequest after sidequest. And you start getting so many greyed-off and ticked-off entries in your diary/journal/quest table/whatnot. Until you tick off them ALL. And it’s a magnificent, deeply fulfilling feeling if, like me, you are a completist.

    So, that’s the feeling I’m getting this season.

  58. I think the High Sparrow’s new target will be either Olenna or Littlefinger, after an accusation about Joffrey by whichever one gets to him first.

  59. Jared: think that en route to Bear Island from Castle Black, Davos and company will stumble upon what remains of Stannis’s camp.

    That makes absolutely no sense geographically. Bear Island is quite close to the Wall. Stannis was very near Winterfell in episode nine.

  60. Fez,

    Is it though? I don’t think the show version is that big.

    Roose said about how big the North is, in S4, we should get a fair number from that.
    I just have no clue about miles/feet….

  61. Bran-hyped:
    The old foe…the Others (aka White Walkers) strike again?
    “Blood of my blood” seems more a reference to family ties and not so much to Dothraki oaths of allegiance, after all.

    maybe that could be the episode with the continuation of the Toj.

  62. Jared,

    Good point! Davos is definitely getting to the bottom of this. I’m curious to see the confrontation.

  63. Luka Nieto,

    Maybe it’s both? I don’t know. Is the assumption that other lords are gathering at Bear Island? Part of what makes me wonder if it is Manderly is that I don’t recall seeing any Merman banners in the shots during the battle. Maybe Fletcher isn’t Manderly but a Hornwood? Their banners were seen in abundance in pics from the set.

  64. JCDavis:
    Why are so many people hung up on this travel thing? Who cares how long it takes to get from point A to point B….isn’t the important thing to get there?People really want to see countless roadshows? Why not get to the meat of the story instead of the mashed taters?When you watch a show in outer space, it actually takes a long time for space travel, but nope…we’ve invented warping time so there can actually be a themed show instead of just watching a space ship going from A to B. Who questioned that?

    The story isn’t about HOW someone gets from place to place, it is about what happens at where they arrive.

    High time someone pointed this out. Kudos!

  65. Mihnea,

    It may be smaller, but Roose still said something about “hundreds of miles” I think. And that’s just the North. So maybe the Wall to Dorne in the show is a 1000 miles instead of 3000 miles. That would still make for pretty long travel times.

    Even if Westeros is only the size of England+Scotland now, it would still make for pretty long travel times. Travel by horse is slow unless its a Pony Express situation, and there isn’t one of those in Westeros.

  66. Flayed Potatoes:
    Sean C.,

    We also need a scene with Jon and Mel…..she’s making some bold assumptions isn’t she? No salt….no bleeding star….

    Well we had a bleeding star in season 2, there’s nothing to say all this has to happen within a few days of each other.

    As for “salt and smoke”, there always a change that this prophecy has been distorted or misinterpreted somewhat over the millennia. Salt could be ice/rock for example.

    In the books TPTWP is assumed to be male until it’s mentioned that the Valyrian word is gender neutral, so there is a precedent for these prophecies to be (deliberately by GRRM) misleading..

  67. So it seems like we’re going to get BOTH the epic “Broken Men” speech by Septon Maribald *and* the “Mummer’s Farce” speech by Manderly in the same episode!

    0.o

    That episode is going to be EPIC! Best E7 of any season ever?

  68. Sean C.,

    Luka Nieto,

    It seems that I was looking at a bad map. That’s what I get for clicking on the first Google Image instead of checking one of the books! For some reason, I had it in my head that Bear Island wasn’t quite as far north as it actually is. So fair. That reveal is more likely to happen in Episode 8, then.

    I still think that Jon and others will be in Episode 6. But I guess if that storyline were to take any episode off this season, that would be the one.

  69. Fez,

    There are other ways to show how vast Westeros is. For example, every location has its own climate and vegetation. Take the difference between King’s Landing and the Wall, for instance. It’s always snowing at the Wall, whereas the it’s always bright and sunny in King’s Landing. Likewise, the plants and vegetation in the Riverlands is vastly different to that of Dorne. This tells me more about how vast Westeros is than unspecified travel times.

  70. Sean C.,

    Well, if Team Stark had gone to White Harbour instead of Bear Island to have their meeting there, it would have also been clear from the start that Manderlay is on their side, why else go there if you don’t feel safe.

    I think it’s a small price to pay and I’m convinced the impact will come from the fact that the speech will be heard by not only Davos, but by other Starks and other Northern lords.

  71. Flayed Potatoes,

    oohh dont get me wrong.me too!!.. I could have a whole 10 episode series just on the North and would love it lol ! just felt IF they were going to have an episode with no north in it ep 6 would be the one

    Sean C.,
    could be, that is a good point.. though I am not 100% convinced they are gonna come right out and say

    R+L=J

    this season..Bran may have to spend some time figuring it out..part of this thinking is greediness on my part..if it isnt outright shown then Brawn will have to keep having flashbacks to figure it out which means…. RHAEGAR!!! and above anyone else (not already on the show) I want Rhaegar (and Lyanna) on my screen at some point
    …..(other part is they may TRY to let GRRM confirm that for us)

  72. Tyrion Pimpslap:
    Is the assumption that other lords are gathering at Bear Island?

    Since “Manderly” and “Cerwyn” filmed on the same day, the assumption was that there was some sort of gathering. With Cunningham confirming Lyanna Mormont is also in the show, and that he’s speaking to her in the trailer (and that other people are present at this parlay), it seems logical that the gathering is at Bear Island (which is where Davos is in that shot, going by the banners in the background).

    Now, it’s possible that the Starks recruit the Mormonts first and then go meet some other lords elsewhere (the other major nobles mentioned in the show and in filming spoilers — Manderly, Hornwood, Cerwyn — are all concentrated in the southeastern part of the North, so in a way that would make sense), but given the show’s desire to keep the pace moving, it doesn’t look like they’re doing a really lengthy story about rallying banners.

    Wylie,

    They would go to White Harbor because they really need his help (Davos certainly wasn’t confident in his support when he went there in ADWD). Granted this rationale has seriously diminished since based on what we know of how the show is playing out, per meeting Littlefinger in episode 605, they’ll know that the Arryns are coming, which in a sense should make this whole mission to rally the North both easy and kind of superfluous, if thought about logically.
  73. Sean C.:
    Tyrion Pimpslap,

    Lady Lyanna is the head of her house, and already stated that they’re pro-Stark last season.To whom would she need to give such a speech?

    Jared,

    Considering Stannis’ army walked the rest of the way to Winterfell on foot, I would have to imagine their camp is very close to Winterfell, and not likely to be something Team Stark would run across on their way to Bear Island.

    True, but Davos definitely finds the spot that Shireen is burned and I think Jared is bang on in this, although it likely happens pre/post battle.

  74. Susan:
    Mihnea,

    Actually they’ve skipped a week in past years and still qualified for the Emmy’s.

    Yes, but in those seasons the season started earlier (usually the first or second weekend of April). This season started so late.

    The qualifying period for the 2016 Emmys is June 1, 2015 – May 31, 2016. In order for a TV series to qualify for the 2016 Emmys, a TV series needs to have more than 50% of its episodes airing before the May 31 deadline. Otherwise, it’d be pushed over to the 2017 Emmys.

    If GoT skipped Memorial Day weekend, they’d have 5 episodes before May 31 and 5 episodes after May 31, thereby making S6 ineligible for the 2016 Emmys. They clearly don’t want to do that, especially considering they won the 2015 Emmys and would want the chance to repeat.

  75. A dornish Tyrell,

    0 percent chance of that. Not the least because it’s cheesy as hell.

    Sounds like a good set of episodes. Looking forward to the King’s Landing stuff especially. Have a feeling people are going to be disappointed with the North Remembers stuff and the Broken Man speech being cut short, but we’ll see. .

  76. Fez: So what happens? Does something happen in 606 that makes him wash his hands of Kings Landing and leave for the Riverlands with the Lannister forces?

    He probably finds out about Lancel and Cersei.

  77. The hero Jamie confronts is ser loras. ….High sparrow will declare him as a hero who have risen above his sins and accept ..blah blah blah…………so ser loras is team high sparrow now and he will confront Jamie …..

  78. Flayed Potatoes:
    I hope we’re still getting the Northen storyline in episode 6. I’m greedy lmao. Is there any chance we’ll see Jon and Sansa in this episode?

    I think so, at least definitely hope so! Not least because the title seems perfect to show or atleast hint at the connection between Jon and Dany. Besides, Jon being excluded from synopses is pretty standard now. The only time he was included was when they wanted to remind us that “Jon Snow is dead” . He is also absent from all episode previews. And just one promotional pic so far. I don’t really see why they feel the need to exclude him from all the pre release stuff, lol.

  79. No Tarly’s until 606? Will we see the Citadel this year?

    Is the difficult choice Arya faces a mark that the FM want to kill, but Arya doesn’t want to?

    So Riverlands returns episode 6?

  80. How could the hero Jaime sees be Blackfish? Jaime will be back in the Riverlands already in episode 7?

  81. Tarlys!! Also, “Blood of my blood” will definitely have Daenerys with her bloodriders and Drogon, setting off for Meereen. The title screams bloodriders to me. I think the High Sparrow (the most boring character in Season 6 so far, to me!) will eye Olenna. No idea who the “hero” is, but I am surprised that Walder Frey will be in more than 1 episode. He should have been taken care of in one episode, like Greyjoy.

    Hodors Bastard: The Broken Man can apply to so many storylines.

    Loras also!

  82. JCDavis,

    How (not how fast) LF gets from Vale to CB is important to the story. It establishes LF’s mindset about his alliance with Ramsay.

    We don’t even need a scene showing LF traveling. Just a mention of the route or even just a mention of his feelings about his Bolton alliance to Sansa. If he just *appears* in CB or MT and doesn’t mention the alliance with Ramsay or how he found her, then I have every right to question how he got there and why it wasn’t shown/said.

    It’s not overly critically or whiny. It’s a legit question. If D&D wanna play it like LF’s route is some mystery that’s fine too (provided the mystery is later explained).

  83. Jack Bauer 24:
    How could the hero Jaime sees be Blackfish? Jaime will be back in the Riverlands already in episode 7?

    Yes, it’s very possible with the spoilers we have so far. I hope they keep somethings from the books.
    I am really happy 6 & 7 have Arya and Jaime doing something, they were they only main characters who didn’t had a story so far.

  84. pras:
    The hero Jamie confrontsis ser loras. ..

    Ooooh….. that’s a great idea! I could see that happening! Exciting!

  85. Kay:
    Tarlys!! Also, “Blood of my blood” will definitely have Daenerys with her bloodriders and Drogon, setting off for Meereen. The title screams bloodriders to me. I think the High Sparrow (the most boring character in Season 6 so far, to me!) will eye Olenna. No idea who the “hero” is, but I am surprised that Walder Frey will be in more than 1 episode. He should have been taken care of in one episode, like Greyjoy.

    Loras also!

    Dany is leaving for Westeros already. She has SotH to deal with back in Mereen with her new Dothraki army. Remember the scene in the trailer with the Harpy attacking and then they quickly look at something and another scene shows the Dothraki charging on horseback?

  86. Maggie: Yes, it’s very possible with the spoilers we have so far. I hope they keep somethings from the books.
    I am really happy 6 & 7 have Arya and Jaime doing something, they were they only main characters who didn’t had a story so far.

    Arya has a story.

  87. JCDavis,

    I agree. I also don’t think some people understand that many of these scenes in different areas with different characters are not happening sequentially as they’re aired on the show. For example, a scene with Littlefinger in episode 4 could have been occurring at the same time as a scene with some other characters in a different area we saw in episode 2, and isn’t necessarily happening at the same time as other scenes in the same episode.

  88. Sean C.: Cersei sends him, going by the trailer.But yeah, I’m not sure what sort of outcome in 606 would lead to him so rapidly pivoting to another plot in 607, particularly as it doesn’t sound like things in KL are remotely settled afterward.

    This is why I like the suggestion of Tommon (or someone else in Kings Landing- could be Mace- or anyone else who steps in) being hailed as the hero in the previous episode. If this is the episode for Lord Freys return, it makes sense to wait until the following episode for Jaime to head to or arrive at Riverrun.

  89. Kay,

    it could be end of ser loras too …Jamie could kill him ….that will shake things up ……big time!!

  90. I am going to go out on a limb here and make a very bold suggestion as to who the “Hero” that Jaime confronts is. Referencing the fairly popular theory that the

    High Sparrow is actually Howland Reed

    , could this make sense?

    I don’t think that theory will come to be, but I am desperately looking for a place where

    Howland Reed will finally appear.

  91. Jack Bauer 24,

    Overall yes, actually everyone does.
    Just Arya and Jaime had the most boring scenes in the first 4 episodes, and it’s great to see them do something.

    pras:
    Kay,

    it could be end of ser loras too …Jamie could kill him ….that will shake things up ……big time!!

    Jaime will not kill Loras, Loras is locked and Jaime has no reason to kill him.

  92. Sean C.,

    I don’t think sansa will accept littlefingers help at the beginning she will feel betrayed and will think the northern houses will be enough.Afterwards when they see that the north it’s not enough she will go to littlefinger to ask for help.Otherwise if the vale is in since the beginning there is no suspence

  93. Luka Nieto,

    I may have missed this, but does Jaime actually know the details of Cersei’s disgressions that resulted in her little walk? I believe the High Sparrow uses some general terms on the Sept’s steps (fornication blablabla), but does not name Lancel specifically. I would like to think that Jaime would ask something like ‘the fuck you were loving little Lancel while I was imprisoned?’ It is either a minor flaw in the show or it’ll play a role, though it might seem a bit silly to have Jaime only discover it now.

    Thing is, some have pointed to the dialogue where Cersei asks somebody to lead the Lannister armies… if they were on bad terms I’d like to think Jaime would be more reluctant to follow her orders.

  94. As per who an old foe is …….I will make an absolutely rediculous prediction that is almost impossible. …
    but it is came to my mind instantly as a read an old foe…..
    old foe is leader of sons of harpy
    someone we saw ..someone who we thought died
    someone who was definately a foe ….
    someone we aren’t thinking of ..
    xaro xhoan daxos. …..I’m serious …He couldve somehow survived and is trying to get his revenge against dany from behind the scene using masters and sons of harpy

  95. Luka Nieto:
    That is a bit of a missing key motivation for me too. Considering the spoilers we heard from the set, the situation with the Faith is far from settled in episode six. So I do wonder what could drive Jaime away, specifically.

    It may not be a question of being driven AWAY, but being driven TOWARD.

    If in fact Cersei’s and Jaime’s gambit against the High Sparrow doesn’t fully succeed, they may feel driven to seek out additional allies . And there are some possible allies in the Riverlands…

    In this connection, it strikes me that the Iron Throne is in a tough spot right now. Despite an overall victory in the War of the Five Kings, it finds itself with the North, the Iron Islands, and Dorne disaffected (the Vale is, too, but they don’t know that yet – though they may soon find out); in what remains, they’re heavily dependent on the most robust remaining house, the Tyrells. The Lannisters are running out of cash, Braavos is calling in its loans, and they don’t even have full control of the capital city. And a Targaryen is on the loose with three dragons and an army in Essos…

    None of which is nearly as dangerous as the foe looming beyond the Wall, though of course the Lannisters do not realize that yet.

  96. The High Sparrow eyes another target: Sir Robert Strong,
    whom the FM have to beat using the Broken man : the HOUND
    get hyped!!

  97. Ron Snow:
    JCDavis,

    I agree. I also don’t think some people understand that many of these scenes in different areas with different characters are not happening sequentially as they’re aired on the show. For example, a scene with Littlefinger in episode 4 could have been occurring at the same time as a scene with some other characters in a different area we saw in episode 2, and isn’t necessarily happening at the same time as other scenes in the same episode.

    Exactly. And the same thing happens in the books. Some chapters overlap. And sometimes they are sequentially out of order. (Early TWOW chapters will apparently take place before the last ADWD chapter)

    I’m more of a map-geek than most, but this obsession with travel times is just going over the top. Have you all forgotten how in season one, Ned & Robert traveled from Winterfell to the Inn at the crossroads in one episode? (80% of the distance to KL) If you didn’t complain back then, do us all a favor and stop complaining now.

  98. koempel,

    I said this many times and it looks like with each passing episode I may be right.

    Jaime will not break from Cersei now, he will do it, much more violently and shortly before he kills her. That’s why the Valanqar wasn’t mention, so we won’t suspect Jaime at all and that is why they haven’t broke them apart yet.
    In the books it’s a slow burner. In the show it will be a explosion, when it finally happens. My guess is S7.
  99. The title “Blood of my blood” could be referring to

    Sandor (The Hound) and Gregor Clegane (The Mountain) (brothers, same blood).

    Get Hype!

  100. Maggie,

    but when Jamie confronts sparrow in episode 6 ser loras could intervene. ….and further high sparrow could give certain info to loras regarding cersei relationships …ser loras could raise these questions near Jamie ,,,,,,prompting Jamie to kill him ,….not saying will happen but possible

  101. Jack Bauer 24: Dany is leaving for Westeros already. She has SotH to deal with back in Mereen with her new Dothraki army. Remember the scene in the trailer with the Harpy attacking and then they quickly look at something and another scene shows the Dothraki charging on horseback?

    I don’t understand your point to my reply. I said nothing about Westeros. Daenerys has to go from Vaes Dothrak to Meereen first.

    pras:
    Kay,

    it could be end of ser loras too …Jamie could kill him ….that will shake things up ……big time!!

    No idea if that happens, but if it does, the s**t would not just hit the fan, it would go up higher than the Wall. The Tyrells and Lannisters in all-out war against each other!

  102. Mihnea,

    Still, there needs to be something that makes that happen. I don’t think Tommen’s death or Cersei’s sexual adventures to be enough to make him go berserk. I had always felt (with regards to the books) it would be more of a mercy killing after she goes mad. Anyway, I suppose Jaime really doesn’t know yet in the show.

  103. Jenny,

    There’s really not time for Sansa to seek out Littlefinger again, if they’re still rallying Northern houses by episode 7 and the battle is in episode 9.

  104. Does anyone else believe that Drogon will also make an appearance in Ep6? Oops – sorry Kay. See you already mentioned!

  105. koempel,

    Tommens death would do it indirectly.

    Cersei goes mad and

    tries/actually does burn the city. I doubt it would be a peaceful mercy kill. In my opinion it will be a outburst of anger and rage.
  106. Kay,

    I’ don’t know about this but how is the relationship …between Tyrells and riverrun? ? Will riverrun support Tyrells if they were to go against lannisters ….

  107. Well, this is what I think:

    1. For a short appearance this year, we do get a lot of Arya. Do you suppose she was trolling the fans!
    2. Although I really like Sam and Gilly, I still cannot see what is the point in their story. It is not that I complain, but …
    3. …but with only 5 episodes to go and so much stuff that we haven’t seen yet… Honestly, how on earth are they going to fit all this stuff to the episodes we have left??????

  108. Cersei's Brain:
    Does anyone else believe that Drogon will also make an appearance in Ep6?Oops – sorry Kay.See you already mentioned!

    For a second I thought you have said “Drogo”!

  109. Arya: I think gets sent off to kill someone in the actors’ troupe, where she possibly learns about Jon’s death, and that is what spurs her to make a plan to leave the FM.

    I think that Jamie goes to secure the Freys or to remind the Freys that they owe loyalty to the Lannisters; Brienne is sent to the river-lands because the Manderlys are attending the Frey wedding; Frey Pie plan is executed; Manderly gives his speech to Brienne; Brienne meets Jamie at the riverlands – convinces or takes him captive to the the north; exit Freys; Manderlys and co. leave for Winterfell.

    One can hope…

  110. Sean C.,

    She’ll go on episode 8 and come back in episode 9.I don’t know I just can’t see how much fight there is if the vale is in since the start

  111. pras:
    Kay,

    I’ don’t know about this but how is the relationship …between Tyrells and riverrun? ? Will riverrun support Tyrells if they were to go against lannisters ….

    IF the Tyrells were to support House Tully , it would mean they would go against the crown and House Lannister. I dont think House Tyrell would want to risk it since Margery is queen, and if tommen dies, margery is the Queen of Westeros and since she is young she can remarry to any other house and bare children which will officially declare House Baratheon of KL extinct. When Tommen dies , so does House Lannisters influence in the capital. When that happens then House Tyrell can play their cards and ally with Houses Stark and Tully against Lannister.

  112. Ronald Snowington,

    In the books, Blackfish was actually a hero of young Jaime. When Tywin was trying to get Jaime engaged to Lysa, Jaime visited Riverrun but ignored Lysa and paid more attention to Blackfish’s stories. Blackfish was a hero of the war of ninepenny kings.

  113. Jenny,

    I agree. She will meet with him in E8 again and she will promise him something. My theory is that she will promise him a marriage if he helps her defeat the Boltons.

    But secretly she will be working behind his back, she will inform the lords from the Vale that LF killed Lysa, and after the battle (in E10) LF will be executed.

  114. Jade Joon:
    Arya: I think gets sent off to kill someone in the actors’ troupe, where she possibly learns about Jon’s death, and that is what spurs her to make a plan to leave the FM.

    Jon wasn’t dead long enough for word to get out.

  115. Fez:
    Re: Travel Times

    I don’t want to see endless shots of people on horses. But an acknowledgement of just how vast Westeros is gives more heft and grounding to what is happening on screen. Making travel effortless and near instantaneous diminishes all that, and makes it seem like everyone is fighting over a small island, not a continent the size of South America.

    All they need is the ocassional throw-away line about how long the trips are, like they did in the first season when they got from Winterfell to Kings Landing in one episode.

    The vastness of Westeros is addressed in the opening of every single episode, when they literally pan the entire continent displaying the massive distances from the Wall to Essos and everything in between. The amount of time it takes to travel these distances should be implied throughout the show. Why waste diologue on the obvious when there is so much more interesting things to cover?

  116. Jade Joon: Arya: I think gets sent off to kill someone in the actors’ troupe, where she possibly learns about Jon’s death, and that is what spurs her to make a plan to leave the FM.

    How would Arya (or anybody, really) learn about Jon’s death? He was dead, then resurrected less than 24 hours later. In that time, the mutineers were too busy trying to organize things against the loyalists (and then being defeated and hanged) to send out any news about Jon Snow’s death. And once Jon came back, it’s not like he’d send ravens out about his death and resurrection.

  117. The thought of the speeches we may well get (one of them almost certainly) in episode 7 in the hands of Bryan Cogman makes me very, very happy!!!

    As for the Northern Lords meeting together, I know from the season 6 pictures we got, it appears they are on Bear Island. I also saw someone suggest maybe they all meet elsewhere, and we saw the Mormont banners hanging because everyone at the meeting hung the banners of their house. Going with this second idea and looking at a map, there is one place they all could meet without having to cross water to get to Bear Island (and, yes, in large part, this is meant in jest, as it gives me a chance to say something I haven’t seen anyone say in a while, but it isn’t meant 100% in jest)…

    #DEEPWOODMOTTECONFIRMED

    😉

  118. Josh L.,

    Not sure…but why would she balk at a killing? Maybe the play itself makes her realize the extent of her losses and send her back…

  119. Not sure the show has put down any tracks for Brienne to take Jaime captive. She has great respect for him, and the people she’s with don’t have any direct enmity for him either that we’re aware of. I see it more likely she enlists his help for something.

  120. Cersei's Brain: Does anyone else believe that Drogon will also make an appearance in Ep6?

    Drogon is going to appear (as in the trailer), either in Sunday’s episode or in Blood of my Blood. I think it’s more fitting if it’s in Blood of my Blood, as that will neatly tie in the TSTMTW prophecy from the books.

    pras: I’ don’t know about this but how is the relationship …between Tyrells and riverrun? ? Will riverrun support Tyrells if they were to go against lannisters ….

    I am not a book reader, so I have very, very little idea about Riverrun. I believe the Tarlys would go up against the Lannisters, much more than Riverrun. In Roberts’ Rebellion, Riverrun was anti-Targ, pro-everyone against the Targs including Lannisters, I believe.

  121. “Jaime confronts a hero.”

    Lots of people think this is the Blackfish, or Brienne, or Loras, but what if it’s Bronn? “You’re going to come with me and help me with something important.”

  122. Wait a minute… “The North is reminded” is not the same as “The North remembers”. I’m not sure that means something good for the North. I hope I’m wrong, but I have have a bad feeling about this.

  123. Sou:
    1. For a short appearance this year, we do get a lot of Arya. Do you suppose she was trolling the fans!

    She wasn’t trolling — rather, we misinterpreted what she said, I think. It seems like what she meant was that a lot of her appearances are shorter, so she may have less screentime overall, but in more episodes (which fits with her saying she felt her story was a bit chopped up). For instance, her screentime in episodes 1-2 amounts to about four minutes over two scenes.

    AngryRosFan:
    Wait a minute… “The North is reminded” is not the same as “The North remembers”. I’m not sure that means something good for the North. I hope I’m wrong, but I have have a bad feeling about this.

    “The North is reminded” = the Starks having to go around and remind all these guys that they’re supposed to be loyal to them.

  124. mau,

    I really like this and I hope he dies this season,but are there any villains left for next season?There is euron i suppose and I know there are the white walkers but could they really use that for two seasons?For me that is going to be the 8th season.So what will the conflict in the north next season?What will Jon and Sansa do?

  125. JaimenotJamie,

    By ‘the people she’s with‘ do you mean Jon and Sansa? Siblings of the kid that was left paralyzed because some jerk pushed him off a tower just to cover up his sins/crimes? Frankly, I don’t think I could forgive anyone who did that to someone I love.

  126. Jared,

    “I think that en route to Bear Island from Castle Black, Davos and company will stumble upon what remains of Stannis’s camp. Davos will discover the burned remnants of the stag that he made for Shireen amidst the ashes, and finally learn what happened to his Princess.”

    My family concurs. 😀

  127. 606
    An old foe comes back into the picture. Sounds like Lord Frey.
    Gilly meets Sam’s family. I hope we see Starfall or Oldtown on the way
    Arya faces a difficult choice. Looking for a decision
    Jaime faces off against the High Sparrow. yawn. Neither is going down any time soon.

    607
    The High Sparrow eyes another target. Olenna?
    Jaime confronts a hero. Jaime sees the King Trout as a hero…
    Arya makes a plan. Execute the plan, we’re ready
    The North is reminded. blah, we need no more reminders

  128. When you say ”The Hound is back!” you wrong.

    The Hound died, but Sandor Clegane is alive.
  129. Jenny,

    But it won’t really be two seasons. Only 13 episodes.

    Last 6 will be for WW only I think. And in the first 7 we will have Cersei, Euron and Randyll Tarly as the villains.

  130. Danny,

    I love how we can approach each guess from various viewpoints- doesn’t help when trying to make solid predictions… but cool nonetheless.

    Having said that, I’m trying to figure out – what will be happening in other locations while the Bastard bowl is going on? As in, we’ve already passed Dany’s big set piece, what is in episodes 8,9 and 10, that would have larger implications for the next season??

    Dany attacks Meereen?; Bastard bowl in the north; Cersi burns something!?

  131. Agh! The North is reminded? That the Starks are still alive and the rightful lords of the North? Oh please let it be!

  132. Danny:
    By ‘the people she’s with‘ do you mean Jon and Sansa? Siblings of the kid that was left paralyzed because some jerk pushed him off a tower just to cover up his sins/crimes?Frankly, I don’t think I could forgive anyone who did that to someone I love.

    I wouldn’t either, but neither of them know about that, as far as we know.

  133. I’m a little worried about how the timing of Jaime’s movements will play out. I think the first face off with the High Sparrow ends with a fizzle, rather than a bang based on set reports of marg walking free…. But would he really go to Riverrun with Ceresi’s trial pending? Seems a long way to go with her fate on the line, and he already abandoned her once to a very poor result….. Maybe this is where we hear the, “I want you at the head of our army showing them what lannisters are made of” line of Ceresi’s from the trailer, and she handles the Faith Militant alone…. but if he leaves KL before dealing with the faith I’ll be bothered.

  134. Jade Joon: what will be happening in other locations while the Bastard bowl is going on? As in, we’ve already passed Dany’s big set piece, what is in episodes 8,9 and 10, that would have larger implications for the next season??

    Dany attacks Meereen?; Bastard bowl in the north; Cersi burns something!?

    Daeny will be done with Meereen by Episode 10, as in, attacks, resolves, and departs! KL will be burning by the end of the season, I am pretty sure, at least portions of KL, like the Sept. I hope the Wall starts to fall by 10, though perhaps not. Euron will be all over the Reach by the end of the season, attacking and pillaging. Theon and Yara will be in Essos. Arya will be in Westeros. There is a L O T to cover yet! 🙂

  135. Kyle,
    We’ll have Littlefinger moving from Runestone all the way to CASTLE BLACK in a single episode so clearly Jaime will get his hands on his teleporting device.

  136. Crannogman Matt,

    Nope. I took it as a play on words too and thought that Ramsey’s going to remind the North who’s in charge (i.e. flay a Stark). I really hope that’s not the case. It could be when Ser Davos goes to Bear Island and reminds Lyanna Mormont of her pledge to the Starks.

  137. JCDavis,

    I’m one those weirdos who prefers the off season on here. I look forward to my daily hour of gossip,spoilers and arguments. I love the filming reports and casting news!!!!

    During the on season there are so many posts and comments that I don’t have the time to read them all and I end up skipping entire posts which I hate doing. The open chat and Sues sullied post literally take me two days to read through lol

    Not complaining this site is the best

    I also don’t get the jet pack moaning, George does it in the books

  138. Lars: Exactly. And the same thing happens in the books. Some chapters overlap. And sometimes they are sequentially out of order. (Early TWOW chapters will apparently take place before the last ADWD chapter)

    I’m more of a map-geek than most, but this obsession with travel times is just going over the top. Have you all forgotten how in season one, Ned & Robert traveled from Winterfell to the Inn at the crossroads in one episode? (80% of the distance to KL) If you didn’t complain back then, do us all a favor and stop complaining now.

    It’s not about episodes, it’s about scenes. The trip from WT to KL has over a dozen different scenes presenting us with different parts of their long voyage. Also, it was summer, and not the arctic conditions we see from Stannis’ scenes from last season.

    On episode 4 we have LF telling SeetRobin that Sansa has escaped WF and is on her way to the Wall. So one of his spies had to find out about this, send a message or a messenger to LF, wherever he was. LF receives the message, buys a falcon, travels to Royce at his castle in the Vale, tells SR about Sansa. At this point in time, Sansa has been at the Wall for a week or two.

    In the promo for next week we se LF talking to Sansa at the Wall or in Moletown. Cersei said in the last season that there are 1000 miles from KL to WF. Let’s say there are only 800 miles from the Vale to the Wall. And don’t forget the speed Stannis’ men traveled at. So in order to see LF talking to Sansa at the Wall, we have to assume that he either has a teleporter or Sansa will be at the Wall for a month or two, depending on the severity of the weather LF encounters on the way after he reaches the North.

    a month if he’s smart and takes a boat from the Fingers to White Harbor or the Wall, although I don’t see anyone crazy enough to make that trip now.

  139. Sean C.: “The North is reminded” = the Starks having to go around and remind all these guys that they’re supposed to be loyal to them.

    To which the Northerners can remind them that the Starks are supposed to help the other Northerners kill Wildlings, not lead Wildling invasions, and that the Northern houses’ “loyalty” to the Starks does not include letting themselves be obliterated by Wildlings.

    Jenny: There is euron i suppose and I know there are the white walkers but could they really use that for two seasons?

    Euron is never going to be a major antagonist for most of the characters: he is appearing much too late in the overall story for that. Instead, he’s probably going to be a foil for Theon, and perhaps a plot device for helping get Daeny back to Westeros.

    But given that there are 1.5 seasons after this, the story needs to start wrapping up. So, we need to see the major characters start to learn whatever things they need to learn so that when the big faceoff against the “gods” comes up, we will understand why Jon, Daeny, etc., do not like any of the choices in front of them. The resolution of the War of Umpteen Kings could be informative here because I strongly suspect that it will foreshadow the resolution to the War of the Gods.

    What I am interested to see is how much we start to learn about R’hllor this week and coming up.

    Kay: I am not a book reader, so I have very, very little idea about Riverrun. I believe the Tarlys would go up against the Lannisters, much more than Riverrun. In Roberts’ Rebellion, Riverrun was anti-Targ, pro-everyone against the Targs including Lannisters, I believe.

    Well, which Riverrun? The current occupant is known for changing sides quickly. However, how much longer will he be occupying Riverrun? (We see him there in the trailers, but that could change.)

    The Tullys might be most prone to supporting Daeny at this stage, but who knows how much they know about her. Once they take back Riverrrun (assuming that their restoration happens this year: and I am expecting that it will in parallel to the Starks retaking Winterfell, and Daeny retaking first Merreen, and then taking her host back towards Westeros).

    There are just too many wildcards at this stage.

  140. Could it be that Jon and Sansa will get to Bear Island in episode 6? Based on the description of episode 7 as well as what we know is happening in episode 9, episode 7 sounds like it’ll give us some version of Manderly and the Northern lords rallying to House Stark. But unless all the lords are at Bear Island when Jonsa show up, they’ll have to be summoned. It might be a bit much for Jonsa to arrive at Bear Island and meet Lyanna Mormont, call everyone else, have them arrive, and have them get behind Jon and Sansa all in one episode. So maybe they leave Castle Black next episode, arrive at Bear Island in episode 6 and meet Lyanna Mormont and put out a call for the other Northern lords to appear, and then we get The North Remembers in episode 7.

  141. Ren Snow: We’ll have Littlefinger moving from Runestone all the way to CASTLE BLACK in a single episode so clearly Jaime will get his hands on his teleporting device.

    Well, given that about a year is supposed to elapse each season, their should be about a year’s worth of events!

  142. SD: Could it be that Jon and Sansa will get to Bear Island in episode 6?

    I expect that Sansa and Davos will. I would be surprised if Jon is with them. One of the issues facing Jon right now is how to keep the Wildlings safe from Ramsay while allies who do not hate the Wildlings as passionately as most Northerners can be found. A big host of Wildlings marching to Bear Island would just get Northerners on the west coast mobilized against them. As the show reminded us last year, there are large areas just south of the Wall that are basically unoccupied because of the Wildlings: perhaps Jon will try to hide them there.

    I am curious to see how this will play out, and how the forces will unite in the end.

  143. Kay,

    I don’t see how Dany could ever reasonably resolve the Meereen problemsby episode 10… or even by the end of the series (whether on book or page).
    I do agree she will be headed for westeros in ep 10 (might even be the final shot, her sailing out), but… i don’t know what she does with Slavers Bay. Will she just abandon it?
    Or maybe she will leave behind people to take care of things while she expands her empire?

    Also getting antsy for Cersei’s big revenge arc to begin 🙂 Maybe ep 6?

  144. Wimsey,

    The current occupant is known for changing sides quickly.

    Riverrun is still flying the Stark banner. Walder Frey is the Lord of Riverrun but he does not occupy it. Frey doesn’t seem long for this world either. He’s late but I don’t see any other fathers left so he’s next.

  145. Ravyn,

    So… they shouldn’t be complaining about something, but it’s ok for all of you to complain about their complaining?

    LOT of people on here need to get over themselves. Anyone should be able to express their opinion (respectfully), even if it differs from yours, without being attacked for it.

  146. A theory on the King’s Landing plot line in these episodes:

    It seems pretty likely that the plan that Olenna/Kevan and Cersei/Jaime came up with is going to blow up in their faces.

    The Tyrell army will enter King’s Landing, and I expect they’ll establish that this is the first army to enter the city since the Sack during Robert’s Rebellion, which would mean the citizens of the city will be extremely wary. They will march on the Sept of Baelor to free Margaery and Loras (although Loras may well be given the means and opportunity to kill himself before this happens). After Mace and Jaime make clear that she goes free or there will be bloodshed, the High Sparrow will walk her out. She will declare to the people that she has atoned for her sins and embraced the Seven, possibly even to the extent of renouncing her family name, a la Lancel.

    At this point, one of two things will happen. Either the Tyrells will leave King’s Landing knowing that their house is all but extinguished (Loras dead, Margaery renounced)…or the confrontation will end with violence, during which a wary populace will turn on what they see as an invading force and likely demolish it.

    Either way, the Tyrells will no longer be a commanding presence in King’s Landing, and the High Sparrow remains untouchable. This sort of situation would enable certain events we know will transpire to occur. Namely, Jaime’s foray to the Riverlands at the behest of Cersei (with no Tyrell army, the Lannisters will need their own, which will be established as presently besieging Riverrun.) And also, Cersei’s declaration of war (“I choose violence”) against the Sparrows. With no Lannister or Tyrell armies to confront him, the High Sparrow will call for Cersei’s trial, and her response will be the aforementioned violence.

    Plausible?

  147. SD,

    I’ve been assuming that they send out ravens before leaving the Wall inviting the Northern bannermen to meet them on Bear Island and hear their case.

    Wimsey:
    One of the issues facing Jon right now is how to keep the Wildlings safe from Ramsay while allies who do not hate the Wildlings as passionately as most Northerners can be found.

    It’s not “most Northerners”, effectively it’s “the Umbers”. They’re the only people on the Boltons’ side because they dislike the Wildlings. The Karstarks are with the Boltons because of Lord Rickard’s death and because the new Lord Karstark seems pretty evil.

  148. Wimsey,

    I think Jon can just shelter all the Wildlings in the castles on the Wall. I can’t imagine him not going with Sansa and Davos, I’m sorry. He’s always been very hands on and I don’t think he’ll let Sansa out of his sight (Ned’s ghost would murder him 😛 ). Not to mention this is his storyline as well. He’s a main character and he’s not sitting on the sidelines.

  149. Flayed Potatoes,

    And Sansa’s whole pitch in 604 was that Jon himself would be a big selling point to the Northern lords, so I don’t think leaving him behind when they go to meet with them makes much sense.

  150. Wimsey: The Tullys might be most prone to supporting Daeny at this stage, but who knows how much they know about her.

    TULLYS? I have no clue whatsoever if they would support Daenerys; perhaps it’s “please save us from the Winter with your dragonfire.” I would think it’s SAM’S family, the Tarlys, who would be more supportive of her, due to older associations.

    HelloThere: I don’t see how Dany could ever reasonably resolve the Meereen problemsby episode 10… or even by the end of the series (whether on book or page).
    I do agree she will be headed for westeros in ep 10 (might even be the final shot, her sailing out), but… i don’t know what she does with Slavers Bay. Will she just abandon it?
    Or maybe she will leave behind people to take care of things while she expands her empire?

    I think a lot of us here have different definitions of “resolve” the Meereen conflict. I doubt she will just abandon Slaver’s Bay. I do believe she would use much more expedient methods to resolve the anti-slaver problems, which many viewers would strongly object against. After all, there are viewers who believe she shouldn’t have burned the good Khals, 😉 and accepted their generous offer for her to join the Dosh Khaleen. I am certain many believe that abolishing slavery is a tremendous hardship for the slave owners (it is! 😉 ) and so she is evilllll! for trying to eradicate it O/N. I think it would be awesome if she left Varys and his network behind plus Missandei and GW to rule Slaver’s Bay and enforce her vision.

  151. Molestown bastard,

    I also don’t get the jet pack moaning, George does it in the books

    The main complaint about the books is that they’re travelogues and don’t have enough jet packing.

  152. Sean C.:
    Flayed Potatoes,

    And Sansa’s whole pitch in 604 was that Jon himself would be a big selling point to the Northern lords, so I don’t think leaving him behind when they go to meet with them makes much sense.

    Exactly. Both the books and show hint at this. Robb’s will isn’t on the show, but it is probably getting replaced by Mormont endorsement (who are said to have the will in the books). Streamlined and well-adapted imo!

  153. Wimsey,

    Why would you be surprised by it? Sansa mentioned to Jon if he asks Northerners to fight for him, they will. If Jon is supposed to be leading an army against Ramsy. He needs to do this work and not let others do it for him. That would be cheap. Wildlings would be fine on their own and waiting to see who can be recruited. They can’t wait it on their own. Only the Umbers hates them and they made a point with it. You’re overcomplicating it.

  154. Kay,

    Yes there is a lot to cover! On the surface though it feels like these are just puzzles that fit together – but stuff like timing – as in when the wall will fall etc. seems difficult to anticipate to me! I have no idea what’s in store for us.

  155. AngryRosFan: I hope I’m wrong, but I have have a bad feeling about this.

    Maybe the north is reminded why the wall was built in the first place….? The weirwoods speak!

  156. “The North is reminded.”

    Maybe it’s a remainder that the Starks used to rule the North and Northerners should finally act. Restore them back to seat at Winterfell. Maybe it will be part of Sansa’s speech on the potentional meeting. We saw no resistance on the show, no plots to overthrow the Boltons. Everybody just quietly dissapeared.

  157. JCDavis,

    The story isn’t about HOW someone gets from place to place, it is about what happens at where they arrive.

    I totally agree. Funny how people demand 100% realism in a fantasy show.

  158. mau:
    Jenny,

    I agree. She will meet with him in E8 again and she will promise him something. My theory is that she will promise him a marriage if he helps her defeat the Boltons.

    But secretly she will be working behind his back, she will inform the lords from the Vale that LF killed Lysa, and after the battle (in E10) LF will be executed.

    If she alerts the Lords of the Vale what Littlefinger did, she would only be incriminating herself. As the only witness to the murder, she lied about it.

  159. Kamali,

    It doesn’t compare to LF murdering her.

    She could find tens of exueses, or the lords won’t even care and take the chance to turn on LF.

  160. Sean C.,

    Re your spoiler – I’d not heard that before. So If Arya had given Jaquen the name of someone he knew, like Tywin…(can’t get spoiler to work but I think you know what I am asking)

  161. Tyrion Pimpslap,

    It seems if that was the case then Ramsay would have mentioned the Hornwood’s in episode 2 instead of the Manderly’s. It wouldn’t make sense for the show writers to namedrop the Manderly and Umbers, but don’t use the Manderly’s.

    This could be a situation where the set leaks simply didn’t get all of the leaks. From what I remember, we didn’t get any Vale banners in the set leaks either.

  162. Mihnea:
    Kamali,

    It doesn’t compare to LF murdering her.

    She could find tens of exueses, or the lords won’t even care and take the chance to turn on LF.

    But how would she prove she wasn’t in cahoots with him? I very much doubt that is the play Sansa would make as she tries to get power and make alliances. She’s already been accused of helping Tyrion kill Joffrey. She’s already married the family that turned on her family. Why add another smear to her name by admitting she lied about the murder of her aunt.

  163. Question: Is the Mountain/Robert Strong/Ser Gregor actually stronger than before he was killed, or just undead but equally strong? Might swing my wager for CB.

  164. Fez:
    Mihnea,

    It may be smaller, but Roose still said something about “hundreds of miles” I think. And that’s just the North. So maybe the Wall to Dorne in the show is a 1000 miles instead of 3000 miles. That would still make for pretty long travel times.

    Even if Westeros is only the size of England+Scotland now, it would still make for pretty long travel times. Travel by horse is slow unless its a Pony Express situation, and there isn’t one of those in Westeros.

    I recall him telling Ramsay the north was hundreds of miles.

  165. Here are my predictions for Sansa/Littlefinger and Arya/Returning to Westeros.

    I believe Sansa will refuse Littlefinger’s help in episode 5, believing that rallying the North will be enough. They will gain some support but they will still go into the battle as the underdogs.

    Jon will lead the forces of Widlings and Northern Houses but the Bolton/Umbers will hold them off, until the Knights of the Vale come to the rescue and save the day.

    Littlefinger will say he has proven himself to Sansa and will ask Jon for her hand in marriage. I think Sansa will accept, but will plan to have him killed somehow.

    I believe Arya is going to get caught up in the Theatre Troupe rendition of the events in King’s Landing and refuse to kill her target. She will hear from one of the actors that their next stop will be the Riverlands for a wedding and Arya will plan to leave with them. The Faceless men seem to know all, so they will confront her about her plan to leave, she will flee from them, kill the Waif in self defense, and take the Waif’s face before retrieving needle and traveling with the Troupe to Westeros. Using the face she stole, she will kill Walder Frey.

    Those are my shitty predictions. 😀

  166. ash:
    JCDavis,

    I totally agree.Funny how people demand 100%realism in a fantasy show.

    Except GOT is about as real as you can get. The fantastical elements are at a minimum. This isnt LOTRs, and even then, its still a realistic world. They dont need to show every time someone stops to take a shit, but a little context is nice from time to time.

  167. A dornish Tyrell:
    Tyrion Pimpslap,

    Can we have Sansa’s “my skin has turned to porcelain, to ivory, to steel” speech as well? Please?

    It is not a speech. But we might hear her say it all the same. We heard a lot of Tyrion’s monologues in the form of speeches in Laws of Gods and Men, after all.

  168. Lady Mychelle: Bear Island doesn’t need reminding! They recognize only one King in the North and their name is STARK!
    lol Lyanna

    Exactly. I think that it is Davos who will remind the North, about the real threat they should all be worried about. The Northern houses will initially be reluctant to follow Sansa and Jon because they hate to cooperate with the wildlings, but then Davos will explain the threat of white walkers (Liam Cunningham said he has a scene with Lyanna Mormont who does not understand the threat of Others), and remind the North that ‘Winter IS Coming’.

  169. Geralt of Rivia,

    I also don’t think that any Northern house would go looking for a fight with the Wildings all the way up North (Moles Town area) unless the Wildlings decided to raid lands that are off limits. I would think Tormund can be trusted to keep them in line knowing what is at stake and if Tormund is right and many of the Wildlings see Jon as some sort of demigod, Jon’s word would suffice to keep them in line for a while.

  170. Icekhione,

    I imagine it’s going to be a cliffhanger (or just the mother’s identity). Getting the full thing sometimes seems too good to be true. lol

    I’m also worried that the big mystery of the series will get lost in the midst of many crazy season finale twists.

  171. I’m assuming the quick turnaround for Jaime could imply the Tyrell siege of the sept ends with Margaery dismissing them.

  172. koempel: “I may have missed this, but does Jaime actually know the details of Cersei’s disgressions that resulted in her little walk? I believe the High Sparrow uses some general terms on the Sept’s steps (fornication blablabla), but does not name Lancel specifically. I would like to think that Jaime would ask something like ‘the fuck you were loving little Lancel while I was imprisoned?’ It is either a minor flaw in the show or it’ll play a role, though it might seem a bit silly to have Jaime only discover it now.”

    This has been left extremely, deliberately vague, and I’m surprised that more people haven’t picked up on that fact in between lamenting why Jaime is still Cersei’s lapdog. Because is he? They’re currently on the same “side” because the High Sparrow sucks, and Dorne also clearly needs to be dealt with. But there’s some evidence that Cersei’s been trying to keep what really happened in his absence from him, and yet it defies logic that Jaime seriously doesn’t KNOW what happened (like, do we think he’s an idiot or that he just doesn’t care?) soooo… there’s something we’re not seeing here. I think there is going to be a really big twist.

  173. Kamali: If she alerts the Lords of the Vale what Littlefinger did, she would only be incriminating herself. As the only witness to the murder, she lied about it.

    Sansa could easily say that LF threatened her with death (or Sweetrobin’s safety) if she told the truth to anyone. From what we have seen of the Vale lords so far, they will easily trust Ned’s little girl and attack Littlefinger. No Myranda Royce or Lyn Corbray in the TV, remember. Sweetrobin maybe in LF’s pocket, but that guy is unpredictable as Joffrey, and he seems to like his cousin.

    Also, we see Littlefinger in the snow near a tree (in the trailer). If Sansa accuses LF of murder in front of the heart tree in Winterfell’s godswood, the Vale lords will be convinced that she is saying the truth.

  174. Icekhione,

    These spoilers might be true after all. Still hope for “Blood of my Blood” it’s a very fitting title. Seriously, we should get this over with.

    Danny,

    I agree. Tormund as their leader will keep them in line until Jon and co are done with recruiting. I don’t think wildlings are looking for more trouble with anyone oher than Boltons or Umbers. Also can’t see others picking up fight with them.

  175. Crannogman Matt,

    I personally think this has to do with White Walkers. The Northern region could be reminded of them somehow, maybe they find a way past the Wall.

  176. Icekhione,

    That fits with the casting call for the “Young Stunner” people were speculating was Lyanna, who had “a couple of scenes, and a great final scene where there is a major twist.”

  177. kit_hepburn:
    koempel: “I may have missed this, but does Jaime actually know the details of Cersei’s disgressions that resulted in her little walk? I believe the High Sparrow uses some general terms on the Sept’s steps (fornication blablabla), but does not name Lancel specifically. I would like to think that Jaime would ask something like ‘the fuck you were loving little Lancel while I was imprisoned?’ It is either a minor flaw in the show or it’ll play a role, though it might seem a bit silly to have Jaime only discover it now.”

    This has been left extremely, deliberately vague, and I’m surprised that more people haven’t picked up on that fact in between lamenting why Jaime is still Cersei’s lapdog. Because is he? They’re currently on the same “side” because the High Sparrow sucks, and Dorne also clearly needs to be dealt with. But there’s some evidence that Cersei’s been trying to keep what really happened in his absence from him, and yet it defies logic that Jaime seriously doesn’t KNOW what happened (like, do we think he’s an idiot or that he just doesn’t care?) soooo… there’s something we’re not seeing here. I think there is going to be a really big twist.

    I agree with you. They are doing something similar with Davos/Shireen/Mel story. The S5 finale and the first three of episodes made the viewers wonder why Davos is no questioning Melisandre for more details about Shireen’s death. The Stannis whom Davos knew would go any length to protect his daaughter out of harm’s way, so Davos should wonder why Mel escaped but not Shireen. The confrontation in last episode, has sown the seeds for Davos’s revenge against Mel. When Davos finds the pyre and the burnt stag, Melisandre better watch herself. Maybe something similar will happen which will turn Jaime against Cersei.

  178. Does the Hound know about Cersei/Lancel thing? If the Hound comes back in Riverlands, he could reveal a few things that would interest Jaime (about Cersei) and Sansa (about Littlefinger)

  179. Connor,

    To paraphrase a Game of Thrones actor: “If it wasn’t gratuitous and was in good taste, would you ever consider writing a post that didn’t include the word hype?”

  180. Might the hero Jamie confronts be The Hound? Perhaps he saves the HS from certain doom. The Hound will be the People’s Champion (hero). I smell it.

  181. Have people here discussed this whole “2 truths one lie” thing Maise and Sophie did?
    http://time.com/4341960/game-of-thrones-sophie-turner-maisie-williams-spoilers-truth-telling-game/

    Turner:

    1. “Ramsay dies.”

    2. “Lady Stoneheart returns.”

    3. “Arya checks three people off her list.”

    Williams:

    1. “Arya goes to Westeros, back over the sea.”

    2. “Arya is in the trailer more times than people have realized, because they don’t realize it’s her.”

    3. “Arya doesn’t cross any more names off her list.”

    I think they might be trolling a bit

    I find it hard to believe that Arya checks all three of her names off her list (Cersei, The Mountain, and Walder Frey are ALL that are left.. and i think Cersei will survive)… but if thats a lie, then that means LSH is happening, which i don’t think is true either.
  182. The hero, may just be Brienne for Jaime. As for the north is reminded. I think this is where Davis speaks and says the real fight is between the dead and the living, which takes place on Bear Island, which is my kin. My island is just a little more fun.

  183. aabe,

    I don’t think Sansa will do that. She will wrestle control of Sweet Robin from LF and then she will be able to deal with him

  184. Kay,

    Ummmmm did you forget that Jon is part targ? Once they find out he’s not a child who dishonored Cat, but rather Lyanna’s child, they’ll get behind him. Esp b/c there’s an obvious coalition about to form of the North, the Reach, Dorne and Dany.

    Varys and Olenna were seen on Dorne sets late in the season. I’m going to guess Loras gets killed in the mix and Olenna is ready to fuck the lannisters long and hard.

  185. HelloThere,

    Maybe they are including other names that have appeared on her list before? Melisandre,Beric, and Thoros were all mentioned in season 3.
  186. SerCountryFriedSteak,

    I don’t think house Mormont needs convincing. They have always been loyal to the starks. Prime example is the letter sent to Stannis. I think there will be other houses on Bear Island

  187. Tyrion Pimpslap,

    Hope your right… I just feel like narratively, Cersei needs to go through more before her end. We still haven’t gone far into her character arc post walk of shame, and the season is halfway over (shes not in ep 5)
  188. HelloThere,

    Trolling is plausible. I think it would help to know if Arya checks people off the list or if the people are checked off by someone else.

    If we take them at their word, I think LSH is is more likely than Cersei dying.

    The look on LF’s face is why. I see only 2 interpretations of that look.

    1) I’m dead
    2) I’m seeing a ghost

  189. Is Beric actually returning?

    If we can include Mel in Arya’s list (even tho she doesn’t anymore), then I can see Sophie’s statement being a truth

  190. Jack Bauer 24: Arya

    I think this too, so far Arya has justified her actions by killing only those whom she has seen hurting and/or killing others, she sees it as justice. But if she is given a target who she doesn’t think is bad or deserves it? that will be a real test. The God of Death isn’t meant to pass judgment, everyone faces him eventually. The FM take assignments (assassination requests) from all sorts, they are supposed to complete the task and not get emotional about it. She might find this very difficult.

  191. Susan:
    Mihnea,

    Actually they’ve skipped a week in past years and still qualified for the Emmy’s.

    Looks like from the Emmy Rules, that you need 6 episodes by end of the eligibility period (May 31) to be qualified for at least the Best Drama Series. If they take a break, GOT would have aired only 5 episodes and would have to grab the 6th episode from Season 5. I think HBO rather have all of them from season 6

  192. Sean C.,

    oh, ok that makes sense

    aabe,

    Also, we see Littlefinger in the snow near a tree (in the trailer). If Sansa accuses LF of murder in front of the heart tree in Winterfell’s godswood, the Vale lords will be convinced that she is saying the truth.

    I could see that, esp if she describes how he left her in Ramseys hands and how he treated her

    aabe,

    The confrontation in last episode, has sown the seeds for Davos’s revenge against Mel. When Davos finds the pyre and the burnt stag, Melisandre better watch herself.

    Wonder how jon would feel about that, seeing that she resurrected him. I can see some conflict there, tho also think once he’s told what happened then its a no brainer

  193. Ser Gerold:
    Ravyn,

    So… they shouldn’t be complaining about something, but it’s ok for all of you to complain about their complaining?

    LOT of people on here need to get over themselves. Anyone should be able to express their opinion (respectfully), even if it differs from yours, without being attacked for it.

    I don’t see that anyone is really attacking anyone else … except maybe one comment. Which was a bit harsh, but no attacking at all. And just like you expressing your opinion, we are doing the same. I was actually surprised as many people agreed with me as did. For five seasons I have read post after post of people complaining about the “jet pack” and who is using it now. Finally on season 6, I am ready to let it go already. It seems pointless to me to have a mindset about something that has already proven it isn’t going to change, time is going to run different for different plot lines and it is something that either pops you out of your fantasy while watching or it doesn’t. For me it doesn’t. It also didn’t in Star Trek or Gilligans Island where they left a resort island, damaged the boat in a storm and got stranded on a deserted island and set up housekeeping in a half an hour. How did that happen? The point is that the show was about people stranded on a deserted island, not how they got there. The song at the beginning told it all, right boomers?

  194. HelloThere,

    I’ve been pondering that “two truths one lie” thingy …

    Specifically the contradictory items between “Arya doesn’t cross any name” and “Arya crosses three names off her list.”

    If the “3 names” item is a lie, that means LSH is true and I refuse to believe LSH is in the show. So it has to be true.

    But how is that possible if the three names currently on her list are Cersei, Mountain, and Walder Frey? Arya ain’t killing Cersei — that’s definitely gonna be Jamie. I doubt she’s gonna kill the Mountain — there is a certain hyped bowl to get through first.

    There’s two possibilities. Either Arya adds more names to her list before crossing them off. The Waif is definitely on Arya’s list, and I’m pretty sure Arya is gonna kill her before she leaves for Westeros. So that’s one. Walder Frey is probably #2. So who’s the third? Ja’quen? One of the people that used to be on the list but somehow got “unlisted” (Thoros / Bedric / Red Witch)? Somebody else?

    Or alternatively … Maybe when Arya flees from the Faceless Men, she decides to end the list for once and for all. Then technically she would’ve taken 3 names off her list.

  195. Luka Nieto,

    Jamie tells Tommen he is his father. Causing his son to freak and seek atonement. Jamie leaves the Kings guard and takes his place as the heir of the westerlands. With the Turrells in KL Jamie can deal with last vestiges of the Northern rebellion – he thinks and consolidate their position.

  196. Geralt of Rivia,

    Agreed. For some northern houses, fear of wildlings will outweigh loyalty to the Starks. For others, loyalty to the Starks will be paramount. The claim that disparate local factions always ally against outsiders is just wrong, even in real world history – just as often, factions use an outside force to disrupt existing power dynamics.

    Re: other comments about the Tower of Joy,

    I don’t think there’s any way to reveal who Jon’s mother is without also making it clear who his father is…..I mean, unless there are people whose understanding of reproductive biology is severely stunted. Which, in America, with our weird sex education practices, is always a possibility. But really, once people understand that the woman allegedly kidnapped and raped by Rhaegar has delivered a baby, they’re going to put the pieces together.
    I think that D&D are giving the show audience enough time, through carefully paced flashbacks, to build the Lyanna story and start to solve it themselves. Otherwise it just seems to come out of nowhere. I wonder if the episode 6 appearance of young Ned will show something to do with Lyanna before she’s ‘kidnapped’ – I doubt we get the whole Tourney of Harrenhal, but some conversation about her betrothal to Robert Baratheon and how she’s not excited about it. Then the ToJ reveal in episode 10.
  197. Except season 1, every season has had at least one wedding. Do you think we will see one this season? Red Wedding 2.0 maybe?

  198. fierce as a wolverine:
    Geralt of Rivia,

    Re: other comments about the Tower of Joy,

    I agree. Although everyone knows about it, ToJ/R+L=J reveal is a twist worthy of a finale. I expect they will show things non-linearly in ep5 or 6, and the final confirmation to complete the story will be given in ep 10. We could have another winterfell scene with younger Ned and Lyanna (discussing betrothal), another with young Ned in/after Harrnehal tourney, and finally Ned with baby Jon

  199. A flayed man none:
    I’m thinking the hero Jaime confronts is probably the Blackfish.

    The best trash talking in ASoIaF is castellans flaming their besiegers.

    I’ve been looking forward to the Blackfish hurling insults at Jaime for a long time.

  200. Josh L.:
    So it seems like we’re going to get BOTH the epic “Broken Men” speech by Septon Maribald *and* the “Mummer’s Farce” speech by Manderly in the same episode!

    0.o

    That episode is going to be EPIC!Best E7 of any season ever?

    I must say, it does my heart good to read someone using the word “epic” to describe scenes that involve stirring oratory (and presumably great acting), instead of the usual association with a big battle/fire/explosion/catastrophe action scene! : )

  201. Apollo,

    Yes, and Davos will find the wooden stag he gave Shireen, burned to ashes.

    What will he do to Mel when he finds out?

  202. Marlana: The best trash talking in ASoIaF is castellans flaming their besiegers.

    I’ve been looking forward to the Blackfish hurling insults at Jaime for a long time.

    “Your muzzair was a hamstair, and your fazzair smelt of eldairbairries!”

  203. Tyrion Pimpslap
    May 20, 2016 at 12:25 pm
    I don’t think “The North is reminded” is going to be Wyman Manderly and his speech. Like Mihnea said, I believe it will be Lyanna Mormont taking Wylla Manderly’s speech from the book:

    I believe it will be Lyanna Mormont taking Wylla Manderly’s speech from the book:

    I know about the promise … Maester Theomore, tell them! A thousand years before the Conquest, a promise was made, and oaths were sworn in the Wolf’s Den before the old gods and the new. When we were sore beset and friendless, hounded from our homes and in peril of our lives, the wolves took us in and nourished us and protected us against our enemies. The city is built upon the land they gave us. In return we swore that we should always be their men. Stark men!

    Luka Nieto: Who is code-name “Fletcher”, then? “A fat nobleman in his 60’s” with “distinctive rugged features, a Northern accent, and a distinguished air” who “has a stirring speech during which he unexpectedly shifts political allegiances”. If that’s not Manderly, who is it?

    If some of Wylla Manderly’s speech is going to added to Wyman’s, with its reminders of how the wolves bailed out their house when they were driven from the Reach long ago, earning their eternal gratititude and fealty, then it seems as if we should be alert for references to the River Mander when the Ironborn start raiding southward along the coast. I sort of doubt that they’ll give much if any screentime to the takeover of the Shield Islands, but just a quick reference or two to put it in the viewers’ minds that the Manderlys didn’t originate in the North – before the big speech – might do the trick.

    Since their house is just being introduced to the viewer, it would be good if the show does something to convey just how invested they are in the North remembering, and why – all the more so because we’ve just seen several northern houses turn against the Starks.

  204. JCDavis,

    Not just Boomers…Gen-Xers got to see it in reruns.
    My first introduction to Hamlet was thanks to Gilligan’s Island. 🙂

  205. pras:
    As per who an old foe is …….I will make an absolutely rediculous prediction that is almost impossible. …
    but it is came to my mind instantly as a read an old foe…..
    old foe is leader of sons of harpy
    someone we saw ..someone who we thought died
    someone who was definately a foe ….
    someone we aren’t thinking of ..
    xaro xhoan daxos. …..I’m serious …He couldvesomehow survived and is trying to get his revenge against dany from behind the scene using masters and sons of harpy

    It’s not entirely out of the question. One would think that a guy with a special vault that can only be opened with one key would have some sort of secret backup plan, in case he should happen to leave his key on on the nightstand and have the wind blow the door shut while he’s in there counting his (nonexistent) hoard of treasure. Like, dislodge the 14th brick from the left and flip the hidden latch behind it…

    Doreah would have it in for Dany as well, if she survived.

  206. imjustsayin:
    The High Sparrow eyes another target: Sir Robert Strong,
    whom the FM have to beat using the Broken man :the HOUND
    get hyped!!

    Nah. Too soon for Cleganebowl. Even if the Hound is back, he is still healing from a bad leg wound – plus he needs something powerful to motivate him to give up the simple life. I think that it will take some time for him to be ready to confront his brother again, and that finding out what has happened to his Little Bird is likely what will make his newfound patience snap.

    Meanwhile, Lancel will volunteer to be the Faith’s champion in Cersei’s trial, to atone for his guilty feelings about his past ‘fornications.’ This development might be what clues Jaime in to what Cersei was up to while he was away, and be part of his motivation to leave KL.

  207. MG: Can he reach the Riverlands in just one episode?

    Hey, if LF can make it from the Vale to the North in one episode…

    Hyp3d for tje synopses, RL charactets + Manderly i hope

  208. Sou: 2. Although I really like Sam and Gilly, I still cannot see what is the point in their story. It is not that I complain, but …

    If the Citadel subplot in the books is as important as some readers suspect it will turn out to be, and if the show sticks to it, then the point will certainly come clear in time!

  209. Wimsey,

    But didn’t Sansa say to Jon that he is the son of the last true warden of the north, and that people will fight for him? So doesn’t that mean that Jon has to be there when they go around

  210. Wimsey,

    But didn’t Sansa say to Jon that he is the son of the last true warden of the north, and that people will fight for him? So doesn’t that mean that Jon has to be there when they go around

  211. Jade Joon:
    Arya: I think gets sent off to kill someone in the actors’ troupe…

    …attending the Frey wedding; Frey Pie plan is executed…

    One can hope…

    It certainly does seem that A Girl is about to be tasked with killing someone ‘innocent’ (in her experience) as one of her tests as a novice FM, and that she’s going to have objections. A member of the mummers’ troupe seems like a likely candidate. If the actor/actress is playing a member of the Stark family in the play, that might make it doubly repugnant to her. And if that turns out to be the actress who is playing ‘Lady Stork,’ then I will be ready to place bets on my hypothesis of where Arya’s arc is headed when she gets back to the Riverlands! Foreshadowingggg…

    As for Frey Pie being served at Lord Walder’s next wedding, that would be (ahem) too delicious for words. All across the TV-watching lands, fans of House Manderly will be exclaiming, “Look – the pie!!!”

    I wonder what color will be attached to this wedding.

  212. aabe:
    Ronald Snowington,

    In the books, Blackfish was actually a hero of young Jaime. When Tywin was trying to get Jaime engaged toLysa, Jaime visited Riverrun but ignored Lysa and paid more attention to Blackfish’s stories. Blackfish was a hero ofthe war of ninepenny kings.

    Good point, but did we hear that story in the show? I think not, but could be forgetting. I tend to remember the books better.

  213. mau: But secretly she will be working behind his back, she will inform the lords from the Vale that LF killed Lysa, and after the battle (in E10) LF will be executed.

    Who will push him out the Moon Door? Bronze Yohn or Sweetrobin?

  214. The High Sparrow’s plan of winning hearts and minds is fabulous. Cersei and Olena want bloodshed and revenge, but he’ll have the king and the queen (wether faking it or not) by his side. I guess Cersei will choose violence at the end, when she’s fed up with him.

  215. HousePotterz: the Tyrells will leave King’s Landing knowing that their house is all but extinguished (Loras dead, Margaery renounced)

    This bit is plausible in a vacuum, but represents a very major divergence from the books, in which Loras has two elder brothers and House Tyrell is in no danger of extinction (unless Euron sacks Highgarden). Not that the show can’t go its own way, but it seems like one hell of a burned bridge if GRRM has important stuff left for the Tyrells to do in the last two books.

  216. JCDavis: or Gilligans Island where they left a resort island, damaged the boat in a storm and got stranded on a deserted island and set up housekeeping in a half an hour. How did that happen?

    It wasn’t half an hour. It was a three-hour tour. A three-hour tour.

  217. Jared,

    I’ve said the same about Davos finding the site and the little stag that he carved, but people only argued that the stag would have burned. I still believe that it will happen. It may be a little charred, but he will reach down and pick it up, figure out what happened…and I’ll have tears running down my face for little Shireen again! Time wise, I feel like it will be after the big battle when they are in the general vicinity of Winterfell.

  218. I think the “hero” that Jaime meets is Septon Maribald.

    In an earlier interview Sophie Turner said that she and Brienne were now a “package deal.” I don’t think she would have said that if Brienne leaves her in episode 5 or 6. I don’t see Meribald fitting into Brienne’s storyline.

    But in Jaime’s storyline? Sure. On his way to the river lands he could meet him. Makes sense timing wise too (between KL stuff and Riverlands stuff.)

    I am still puzzled how Brienne and Pod end up in the Riverlands. Maybe Sansa is trying to get the Tully’s to come fight right before he big battle, and that’s when Brienne/Jaime meet up?

    Either way, an already phenomenal season looks to be getting more phenomenal. Bring on the North and juicy Arya/Jaime/Brienne/Sansa/everyone material!!
    (I’m even excited for iron islands stuff which I despised in the books!)

  219. My guess:

    I think that it’s possible that Cersei has taken a Faceless Man hit out on the lead actress of the troupe who are lampooning the War of Five Kings. We’ve seen that she has sworn she’s going to destroy anyone talking smack about her, so it’s understandable she might want to silence the lead actress if she’s playing Cersei in a mocking way. She can’t send FrankenMountain, so, Arya is tasked with joining the troupe and blending in. She gets a taste of fun and perhaps makes some genuine friends, like the actress. Then when she gets told who she must kill and she balks at it. Eventually this leads to Arya finally having to break with the FM, reclaim needle and fight the waif to escape.

  220. ghost of winterfell,

    It’s just a newspaper article that mentions he will appear “briefly” in episode 6, and again in episode 10. Which obviously points to TOJ in 10, and who knows what in 6.

  221. Sorry all–no time to read all of the posts (it is very late).
    Just wanted to say that I’m really looking forward to TWO episodes written by BCog! And the elements he gets to write: the return of

    Walder Frey

    , Ian McShane as Elder/Meribald (and the accompanying expected reveal), Sam’s family and perhaps Oldtown. Also, could the “hero” Jaime confronts be Brienne?? THAT would be a nice reunion.
    In BCog we trust!

  222. Succubint: I think that it’s possible that Cersei has taken a Faceless Man hit out on the lead actress of the troupe who are lampooning the War of Five Kings. We’ve seen that she has sworn she’s going to destroy anyone talking smack about her, so it’s understandable she might want to silence the lead actress if she’s playing Cersei in a mocking way.

    Oh, good catch. That would explain what was being foreshadowed when Cersei went on that rant about wanting to know about anyone anywhere who seeks to profit at the Lannisters’ expense.

    The only fly in the ointment: How would she pay the notoriously high price for a Faceless Men hit, when the mines at Casterly Rock are played out and the crown is so horrendously in debt? Surely they know who’s in arrears to their pals next door, the Iron Bank of Braavos. So what would the FM ask of her instead of gold that she would be willing to give up?

  223. I know that many fans hope for a longer, more integral version of the broken men speech. I think they may be in luck. Bryan Cogman is well known for his close adherence to the books in these matters.

  224. Firannion: Oh, good catch.That would explain what was being foreshadowed when Cersei went on that rant about wanting to know about anyone anywhere who seeks to profit at the Lannisters’ expense.

    The only fly in the ointment:How would she pay the notoriously high price for a Faceless Men hit, when the mines at Casterly Rock are played out and the crown is so horrendously in debt?Surely they know who’s in arrears to their pals next door, the Iron Bank of Braavos.So what would the FM ask of her instead of gold that she would be willing to give up?

    Well, I don’t think we’ve had any show reference to how much it costs to hire a FM. Bear in mind that the insurance seller on the dock didn’t appear to be horrendously wealthy. Nor did the people being fleeced by him, who presumably would have ordered the hit. So I don’t think that expense would be a deterrent, even if Cersei’s family’s gold mines have run dry, she’s still considered filthy rich and still pays for a standing army. 🙂

  225. Tyrion Pimpslap:
    I don’t think “The North is reminded” is going to be Wyman Manderly and his speech. Like Mihnea said, I believe it will be Lyanna Mormont taking Wylla Manderly’s speech from the book:

    There is a casting notice for a “fat Lord” that delivers a “stirring speech” that reveals a “surprising allegiance”, so yea, that’s probably Manderly.

  226. Josh L,

    Arya checked people of her list even when she didn’t kill them. Like Tywin or Joffrey. If LSH was in we would have had some filming stuff leaking, it’s a huge development, I doubt they could hide it. We would at least heard something about Farley.
    Until I see her face on the screen, I will not believe she’s in.
    Even Martin himself, when asked what characters, from his books aren’t in the show, LSH was #1.
  227. George,

    ”suprising” is the word that confuses me.

    If he just throws himself with the Starks, what ”Suprise” is there…?

    I still think he’ll

    join Ramsey and switch sides during the battle.
  228. Aryamad,

    Indeed! Not only the North remembers, I do to! I remember a certain beloved characters who is still present in the memories of a certain Northern girl! and I long for his return.
    Also very excited to see

    Ian McShane’s character,

    Lyanna Mormont and Sam’s family.

  229. In the finale of Season 1 Yoren tells the Night Watch recruits that it’s a certain distance from Kings Landing to the wall – could have been 1,000 leagues but I’m going from memory so could be wrong.

  230. I’m honestly not too pumped for these two episodes. They seem like a bit of a midseason lull to me. Pieces shuffling around to get to the final episodes, that is.

    I may be mistaken, obviously. Plus, DnD said that they think all the episodes are strong this season. So here’s sincerely hoping I’m proven wrong. ?

  231. Nymeria Warrior Queen:
    As for the Northern Lords meeting together, I know from the season 6 pictures we got, it appears they are on Bear Island. I also saw someone suggest maybe they all meet elsewhere, and we saw the Mormont banners hanging because everyone at the meeting hung the banners of their house. Going with this second idea and looking at a map, there is one place they all could meet without having to cross water to get to Bear Island ….

    Bear Island might have a Beary Ferry.

    Speaking of bears, for some reason I’m now picturing Tormund standing in the middle of a Build-a-Bear Workshop and asking, “Where do we go to stuff our own bears? I really want to put myself into a bear.”

  232. Josh L,

    I agree that the 3 names one has to be true. Like you, I think Arya could be adding more names. I also think Arya wouldn’t leave Cersei or the Mountain on her list if they were dead by the end of this season, would she? No, she’d cross them off.
  233. My guess is that Brienne & Pod are dispatched to the Riverlands after Sansa’s meeting with Littlefinger. Jon & Mel head to White Harbor, while Sansa & Davos head to Bear Island. Or there is a big meeting of Stark loyalists on Bear Island and all of them are there. However it occurs, the North will certainly be reminded that the Starks are back!

  234. Dee,

    Agreed, there hasn’t been huge action set pieces in every episode but still these first 4 episodes have been great!

    Pumped for Kingsmoot this episode. This episode looks like it is going to be Bran-centric.

    GET HYPE! 😀

  235. Newbietothegame,

    So littlefinger is in eyrie in ep 04 .. then in north in ep 05 .. while sam & gilly left for oldtown last season and still haven’t made it midway through this season .. WTF

  236. Sam the player,

    Littlefinger has a fast and private ship of his own to take him. Meanwhile Sam and Gilly are riding in someone else’s boat that is probably stopping in every port.

  237. Tim of House Deddings: Looks like from the Emmy Rules,that you need 6 episodes by end of the eligibility period (May 31) to be qualified for at least the Best Drama Series.If they take a break, GOT would have aired only 5 episodes and would have to grab the 6th episode from Season 5.I think HBO rather have all of them from season 6

    Especially when they’re set to sweep the Emmys again, judging by these 4 episodes, not to mention what’s to come.

  238. “The North is reminded” makes me remember that scene with Tyrion and Tywin, where they discussed about the morality of killing a man in a wedding

  239. I am getting weary of all of the “Get Hype” nonsense. Please. Do you see how strong Frankenmountain is? Even if Sandor IS indeed alive, a lame and wounded Hound wouldn’t scratch Frankenmountain before he gets horribly killed.

    Cleganebowl is a joke.

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