Game of Owns: Christmas at Craster’s

Episode 253 – Christmas at Craster’s
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Celebrate the season with us and the gang at Craster’s Keep, where bread and bones are to be broken. And we can’t forget Sandor Claus, with his tidings of comfort and joy at the hands of those without banners.



Discussion Topics
SEASON GREETINGS
Lunch date
Dinner guests
A new nickname
Craster’s sons
Scapedog
Trial by fire
Renewed faith
Owns of the Chapters
Listener Owns

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    1. Merry Christmas! Erik deserves an own of some kind for giving an own to Sandor for crying. One of my favorite moments (and I was quite disappointed when it wasn’t in the show).

      One nitpick: Beric is not being reincarnated, he is being resurrected. Reincarnation would be being born again in a new body.

      I don’t know if it’s right say that Beric was using underhanded tactics. It’s not like they specifically decided to use fire against Sandor because his face is burned. They’ve said they give a lot of people a trial, and I think that Beric is probably always using a burning sword – since fire is the weapon/essential aspect of the Lord of Light. Of course, deciding guilt or innocence by combat is BS, but the people of Westeros who are religious believe it’s the gods deciding whether to spare someone. From the POV of the Brotherhood without Banners, R’hllor is deciding whether Sandor deserves to live or die for his crimes; and it’s not even that unreasonable for them to think that R’hllor may be interfering, since they have other evidence of R’hllor being real and having some strange powers, from the burning sword to Beric’s resurrections. Yes, they all know Sandor killed Mycah, and Sandor doesn’t deny it, but I think the point of the trial was to decide whether Sandor’s defense can be accepted (say, if he really believed Mycah had attacked Joffrey) and/or if there are mitigating circumstances and if Sandor should be given another chance.

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    2. The King’s Speech is a deserved award-winning historical drama and a rare one in that it fails to be boring
      or sentimental, particularly evident in its depiction of the Wallace
      Simpson affair which is more often than not simply presented as
      a fairy tale romance in screen adaptations. Game of Thrones Season 2 Episode 1 is actually about the roll this particular
      04 1, 2012. For some reason I had supposed that it would be a typically turgid period piece but after watching the Blu-ray release
      I was pleasantly surprised to find it terribly gripping and incredibly well written and performed by a marvellous ensemble cast.

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    3. In a few chapters when Thoros describes how he resurrected Beric it is mentioned that the Red Priests perform this last rights type of prayer that has the priest kiss the dead person. I was so confused why they didn’t include this in the show since it would have tied in so nicely to the title “Kissed by fire”. When I saw that was the title of the episode I thought it was brilliant because it worked on so many levels. Yegrett is Kissed by fire. Sandor feels fire’s kiss and Thoros resurrects Beric with a kiss. Not sure why they didn’t tie it all together nicely.

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    4. Annara Snow,

      Thoros of Myr used a burning sword all the time, not just at the battle of Pyke when hew as first through the breach during Balons rebellion but he also used it in melees in tournaments

      So Beric similarly using it is as a homage to R’Hllor

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    5. Ghost’s Lunch:
      Annara Snow,

      Thoros of Myr used a burning sword all the time, not just at the battle of Pyke when hewas first through the breach during Balons rebellion but he also used it in melees in tournaments

      So Beric similarly using it is as a homage to R’Hllor

      Yes, but the swords he used in melees etc. were just ordinary swords that he set on wildfire. Fakes, just like Stannis’ sword that Melisandre set on fire to make it look like Lightbringer. That was at the time when Thoros didn’t really believe in R’hllor and had no proofs of his existence. The sword Beric is using is actually magical, at least I think it’s supposed to be. (After all, if Thoros can resurrect someone many times with R’hllor’s help, a real fire sword is no big deal.)

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    6. Brandon Stark’s Monster:
      In a few chapters when Thoros describes how he resurrected Beric it is mentioned that the Red Priests perform this last rights type of prayer that has the priest kiss the dead person. I was so confused why they didn’t include this in the show since it would have tied in so nicely to the title “Kissed by fire”. When I saw that was the title of the episode I thought it was brilliant because it worked on so many levels. Yegrett is Kissed by fire. Sandor feels fire’s kiss and Thoros resurrects Beric with a kiss. Not sure why they didn’t tie it all together nicely.

      If I were to be really cynical, I’d say it’s because they were afraid it would look gay. 😉 On the show, manly men don’t kiss each other, I guess, and apparently manly men don’t cry, either (Sandor does not cry on the show, not in this scene, not ever). 😉

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