We may not even know a title yet, but we already have promotional photos for the second episode of season eight! There’re things we expected, like Jaime’s trial and everyone planning for war… and stuff we didn’t expect, too!
We start with the weirwood tree, and Bran (Isaac Hempstead-Wright). We’ve seen this a lot since Bran returned to Winterfell — which vision could he be having this time?
We’ve seen a low-res version of this photo of Sansa at dinner before. She looks thoughtful, maybe even a bit sad? It’s so hard to tell in the dim lighting — apparently all of Winterfell is light by a single candle these days.
It looks like Jaime has will have some kind of trial in Winterfell, and if the armed guards behind him are any indication, it will be tense to say the least. Will Brienne speak for him?
Gilly makes an appearance, at last! Hers and Sam’s is one of the sweetest relationships in the show. Who is she talking to here, though? For some reason, I don’t think it’s Sam.
It’s Westeros’ other sweetest couple! Although this looks like another solemn meeting…is Missandei preparing to say goodbye to Grey Worm for good?
Davos usually has a speculative look — as one of Jon Snow’s closest advisors, he should — but this looks even more intense than usual. Is this the same scene with Gilly? Who is he looking at and is it the same person she’s seeing?
Bran seems to go only one of three places these days: the godswood, his room and Winterfell’s courtyard. He’s facing toward someone or something, though, not toward the fire as he usually is when he’s in his chamber.
Varys, Jorah and Dany are looking solemnly at something (or someone?). This seems like a planning session or war council of sorts, perhaps.
Based on the lighting and positioning, this photo of Tyrion, cup in hand, looks like it’s from the same planning session as the Varys/Jorah/Dany photo.
Jon and Sam also look like they’re part of the planning session mentioned earlier, and Sam looks as though he’s feeling more concerned for his friend than usual.
Another photo from the strategy session? Arya would be at home there, and they look as though they’re glancing down at a map or a table.
Lyanna Mormont has come out as no fan of Jon’s recent decisions, but what has our little she-bear wearing armor? It looks like this is outdoors — you can see some of the dragonglass-studded weapons from the trailer in the lower left corner.
Finally, we have another view of Daenerys in the library at Winterfell. She’s sporting a new coat and looks thoughtful. It fits previous photos that hinted at a chat with Sansa in the library. Hopefully they start getting along! The Preview and a new piece of concept art at the official Making Game of Thrones blog confirm this meeting.
What do you all think about these new Episode 2 photos? Let us know in the comments!
Hodor
Sam’s look towards Jon is priceless
I think he’s had enough and decided to find out for himself what happened when Tyrion brought a honeycomb and a jackass into a brothel.
“is Missandei preparing to say goodbye to Grey Worm for good” Noooooo 😭
Also Davos is me overhearing some juicy gossip but pretending I’m doing something else instead so it doesn’t look like I’m eavesdropping. 😂
There’s concept art on the official GoT site that show Dany will be meeting with Sansa in the library. So hopefully something positive will yield from that interaction. And, in one of the promo pics released before the season began, it features Daenerys smiling in that same room. So I think it’s safe to say that the cat fights won’t last for too long.
I think episode two will largely see Dany trying to defuse some of the dissension she’s caused in the North. And the first method of undoing that will be her pardoning Jaime by showing awareness of the cruelty of her father and House. Then, we’ll see her try to diffuse things with the Lady of Winterfell.
The meeting of the main cast seems to be a strategic conference to discuss their plan for the undead. If so, can’t wait to see what they come up with.
Being between the much anticipated premeire and the big Sapochnik directed 803, 802 is in a weird spot. Doubt we’ll see the AotD until 803 and I don’t think we’ll see any major deaths until 803, so are we only getting Jaime’s “trial” and preparations for the incoming AotD?
Putting my detective hat on lol
Based on trailer I wonder if Dany isn’t in the library with Sansa and that “trusting Cersei” conversation. Also that jacket is a little, um, loose around her middle. Just putting that out there.
There’s definitely a disturbing conversation going on with the private war council pics ie Sam, Arya, Jon, Varys, Jorah and Dany. If Tyrion is there he’s drinking and leaning in a way that makes me think he’s out of the trust circle. Please Sam, don’t blurt out anything that might turn you into roast Tarly. Think about Gilly and little Sam (that pic is killing me)
I’m pretty sure Gilly and Davos are both looking at the same person in the feeding the masses scene, but not sure if it’s Little Sam (parenthood bonding) or Bran.
I’m hoping Bran by the tree means we get a flash of something important, and Bran by the fire means a crucial conversation.
I’m also hoping we see Ghost somewhere. He could be hanging out with Bran or something… *waiting*
Sansa looks oddly vulnerable in this pic. Is she talking to Sandor? Pod? (what? I can dream)
Whatever gets revealed in Jaime conversation is one of the things I’m most excited about. Come on Bran. Tell him Cersei was never pregnant and she’s now with Euron and Moonboy for all you know lol
Or tell him he was meant to be here. Because we all know he is.
Is it Sunday yet?
Finally a photo of Arya actually participating in something… anything. 😛
I hope Davos is just serving food and didn’t actually make what he knows how… bowls of brown with “chicken” that’s not chicken.
If all were going to get out of little Lyanna is just more and more snot then I hope they stick her on the front line…
And yes, please can we actually get the characters working together finally instead of talking and looking nasty at each other!?
I’m not so sure we won’t get at least the start of the battle. I had mentioned I noticed that both Sapochnik and Nutter were listed as Executive Producers this year in the opening credits. I haven’t seen this with directors in other years, have you? My guess is they had to work with each other and consulted with each other for continuity this season (which would make even more sense if the battle begins in Nutter’s episode…)
Just guessing, but it could start towards the end of the episode…
Last year it was Bran with the stoned-looking thousand yard stare all season. For season 8, it’s Bran and Sansa with the stoned-looking thousand yard stare all season.
1st Post for me. Thank you all for this site.
Is anyone else noticing the rubber-prop dagger on GW? I mean really, no dagger conforms to your hip like that!! Propmasters just went from 100% legit, to about 99.98% SHAME!! SHAME!! SHAME!!
Lol would it kill them to just reuse stock footage of a white wolf in the godswood background?
I’m thinking the aotd shows up or get very close near the end. At least it looks like the living are “scrambling” for fighting in the preview. I wouldn’t be surprised if the end of the episode is the shots in the trailer of them lined up and the undead horse legs come into the picture.
My money is on that Tyrion scene being the one from promos, where Jamie i talking to someone by a fire. The lighting is the same.
Clob,
Personally I wish it didn’t, since it’s still one of the shorter episodes and there’s so many character interactions that need to happen. The battle is already going to be the longest in the history of anything-I’d selfishly like a little more time with them before we lose anyone else.
AE,
Oh! I think you’re probably right. Same tones, and that makes sense.
Opens with Jaime
Dany: You killed my father. Prepare to die.
Jaime: I’m fighting for the living. By the way, I’m the only one coming
Sansa: Really? No one would ever have guessed
Tyrion: (chugs)
Brienne: Imma look sad
Jon: We need his command expertise. Hello? Dead guys coming! Are you people insane?
Sansa: Oh, it’s nice you took your dick out of her long enough to notice.
Dany: You killed my father. Prepare to die.
Bran: My champion is fire
All: Wut?
Bran: That’s what your father said, when grandfather went to King’s Landing to get Aunt Lyanna back from Rhaegar. He agreed to trial by combat and said “My champion is fire” and roasted our grandfather alive in his armor.
Dany: (shows an emotion for like the third time ever)
Bran: My uncle was also named Bran Stark. Your father tied a cord around his neck and put a sword just out of reach. Uncle Bran strangled himself trying to get it.
Dany: (shows an emotion for the fourth time ever)
Bran: I think now is a time for forgiveness, don’t you, your grace? (Glares meaningfully at Jaime.) It’s one of the things we do for love, isn’t it, Ser Jaime?
Jaime: (Shits himself)
I HOPE we are also getting fallout from Sam’s “Maury Povich” truthbomb. At least one good heart to heart between the accidental cousin/sister/aunt duo!
Eric’O’Essos,
I believe this is the same dagger from the Battle of Meereen where GW killed the two masters but it does look like a bad angle haha.
Clob,
I had the same thought. I think that shot of the undead horse will be the last scene for Ep2.
Also that war council/strategy meeting is probably where Arya will give her “Death has many faces” quote. It seems like this episode will also show a distribution of dragonglass weapons. Then there will be Jaime’s interaction with Bran, hopefully Brienne and Tyrion too. I hope we see more character interactions we didn’t see the first episode like Sansa and Sandor, and perhaps Theon will make it before the battle starts. I’m assuming Jon will tell Dany about his parentage? I mean, if he’s suddenly like “ew, get off me!” I would think he would tell her the truth. I’m still not convinced he’ll make it publicly known, though, i.e. an announcement to all of Winterfell.
I know! Excited!
The caption of that photo also made me laugh. It makes it sound like Arya is played by both Kit and Maisie. 😀
Jon has another sword besides Longclaw on him in that 12th pic. Anyone know if that is a special sword or just maybe just a random one?
Also, Dany’s dress looks very loose and comfy. Like she got it at the maternity section. Just sayin’!
HA! I could honestly watch a whole episode of Bran just making people uncomfortable revealing things.
Bran: And that all happened because Brandon was lied to. He believed his sister had been kidnapped and raped by Rhaegar Targaryen, when in reality, they’d been happily married and were off on their honeymoon.
Everyone: Wait. What?
Jon: We don’t have time for–
Bran: Jon is the legitimate heir to the Iron Throne so his gf is his aunt, Cersei has a thing for elephants, Arya looked beautiful killing Freys and when Podrick went to that brothel he–
Pod: STOP!
Tyrion: No, wait, I want to hear this.
I’m assuming it’s just a dagger or very short sword, albeit with a rather large grip
Yes, I noticed this too. I think it could be a “short sword” used for close up hand to hand battle or a long dagger…It looks longer than a dagger… Maybe someone else knows the history of that type of weapon better than me.
WorfWWorfington,
Posts like these are why I love this blog lol
Breesus,
Only took like 10 years, but I finally did it 😉
RG,
Here we go:
Jaime (Shits himself)
Sansa: Yeah, we used to call your brother Rapey Rhaegar
Arya: Your dad was a psycho, your grace. I oughta know
Jorah: So, if they make Jon dump you, do I finally have a chance?
Bran: Well, ACTUALLY…
Meera, out of nowhere: We TALKED about this, Bran. You aren’t supposed to say that.
Bran: Right sorry. OK, um, IN REALITY…
Meera: Not a lot better, but continue…
Bran: Yeah, Lyanna loved Rhaegar. Didn’t love Robert. Rhaegar didn’t love Elia. They loved each other. They had Jon, who is really our cousin.
Random North Dude: So you’re saying Ned Stark lied to us?
Dany: REALLY? That’s what you’re focusing on?
Jon: Look, I don’t care who has the crown. NIGHT KING COMING!
Tyrion, Varys and Davos: That’s what she said
Dany: Fine. He doesn’t care. I keep the crown. And one more word out of Wheels over there and Imma burn this shit down and head back to Essos. You remember these guys can’t swim, right?
Bran: He has your dragon! He can fly over.
Dany: That’s it. Drogon and Rhaegon! Dracarys
Rhaegon: Yeah, Jon is my dad now. We like, bonded and shit.
Drogon: MOMMY SAID WE HAVE TO BURN!
Rhaegon: I’m not helping.
Drogon: FINE. Then I’m not doing it either. I’m hungry. Anyone got any more cows in this ice cube?
WorfWWorfington,
*standing ovation*
WorfWWorfington,
His name is Rhaegal 🙂
Do you know the difference between this photo of Bran and the live action, in-episode version of Bran?
Nothing.
More ‘human’ this season my ass… 😛
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I just figured out the third big twist! Bran is going to leap out of his chair, dance around laughing and say, “I was just kidding!”
Yeah that’s how I think it’ll end. I’m curious to see what they show in the preview for 803 after Sunday’s epsiode. If 803 is mainly battle, the 30 second preview should be interesting.
My pick for this episode: The Trial
Why? Because it could have double meaning. The trial on its own. But also the trial of many characters. Dany is put on some sort of trial in peoples mind. Will she sway over Sansa and the starks. Trial can also mean something in combat. The trial of Jaime and Tyrion if for instance Bronn will attack this episode. The trial of maybe the GC attacking.
the pictures:
The Tarly’s look happy. So when is the wedding?
picture of Tyrion: Does he look like he’s enjoying himself? Do we finally get the ending of the honeycomb joke?
picture of Arya: just wow, her stance. She looks like the most skilled fighter there.
picture of Dany in libary: Does Dany look happy here? My hopes are that Dany decides to step down and let Jon be leader. And that this episode is the turn point and the start where the families come together. Where Dany have a second conversation with Sam.
What I hope for in this scene is that Dany let Sansa know that she understands why Sansa acted in episode 1 like she did, but that Dany also wants to protect the people. If that happen Sansa will embrace Dany 100%
My predictions of episode 2 where it’s heading.
I think the last 10 a 15 minutes will be the GC attacking Winterfell. And that the episode will end with the army of the dead at the doors of winterfell.
Just defeated the GC. They decided to go back to winterfell. A character make an comment that the battle is over and that they are going to get some rest. Blast Blast blast. Jon: They’re here!
Actually, I think she says that line to Gendry after he hands over her new weapon.
Don’t be weird Arya. You’ll freak Gendry out and give him Melisandre flashbacks. #westerosdatingadvice
kevin1989,
Why would Cersei waste the GC on Winterfell, especially knowing that the AotD is on its way south? She’s going to let the AotD devastate the North, and then take out the AotD and any northern survivors with the GC.
At least, that’s what I *think* she’s thinking.
kevin1989,
No, the Tarlys (Gilly and Sam) don’t look happy, Sam definitely not, and Gilly looks seriously arguing.
And no, Tyrion doesn’t look like he’s enjoying himself and is going to make brotheljokes. he looks like he drinks and knows – nothing anymore.
Wolfish,
This.
Wolfish,
It feels like the time for Cersei to give Strickland orders to go to Winterfell would have been in that e1 scene. I do agree that sending them there doesn’t appear to be the wisest decision. I’m curious what more they can do in King’s Landing for the next couple of episodes that is interesting…
Is Lady Mormont going to actually fight in the battle? I know the ladies of Bear Island are trained as warriors, but are 12 year-olds?
She’ll probably command her troops from the battlements, like we see with Tyrion in the trailer. So no, I don’t think she’s actually going into battle.
Love Lyanna Mormont’s armor!
Does Danny finally break out the Targaryen armor?
I think Dany is talking to Bran in that last picture.
Dany: So, yeah, that thing with Ser Jaime… that was brave of you to forgive him.
Bran: You looked so beautiful when Khal Drogo bent you over that first time, you know on your wedding night
Dany: WTF?
Sansa: BRAN! We told you not to do that any more!
Bran: Sorry.
Dany: OK, so Jon is my nephew. And Rhaegar’s son.
Sansa: Which would make the rightful king half-Stark
Bran: And you say I’m inconsiderate????
Sansa: Well, it’s true!
Dany: Now wait a second. I’m the daughter of the king before Robert. Robert’s “kids” are dead.
Gendry: (I just felt a disturbance in the Force)
Dany: Jon is the grandson. I have the better claim. Only his penis. mmmmm
Sansa: FOCUS!
Dany: Yes, only his penis gives him the claim
Sansa: I don’t disagree, and he sucks at running things, but if you think I’m going to side with you over my cousin, it’s not happening.
Dany: Yes, I know.
Sansa: So… about that penis
Dany: OH, so it’s OK for cousins?????
Jon: Night King’s here. Imma go fight. And hopefully die…
6thofhisname,
Agreed, Dany’s definitely glowing in the pic and not because of the fire. Probably is telling someone happy news.
So we’re NOT going to see a wight giant smash her under foot!? Dangit, that would have been entertaining 😛
WorfWWorfington,
Worf! You’re back! Where ya been????
kevin1989,
“picture of Arya: just wow, her stance. She looks like the most skilled fighter there.”
That’s because she is.
Yeah really! Gendry’s finally stopped whinging about Mel, and his recent encounter with the lovely Lady Arya has cured him of his PTSD-related Erectile Dysfunction.
No KL this episode or 803?
Jack Bauer 24,
I was wondering the same since there are no pics of KL in this batch, and 8×03 will presumably all be at Winterfell for the battle. That would be kind of odd to not check in with Cersei until 8×04, but I suppose it’s possible.
Ten Bears,
Honestly, given Arya’s rejection of Lady-like things, I was pleasantly surprised at her flirting skills. If you look closely, just after Gendry says “Is that a command, my Lady?”, he’s smiling as if he knows exactly what she’s going to say. I must say, I loved this little reunion!
Love the little bear and her new wardrobe, definitely wouldn’t want to be on the wrong side in a fight with her.
If we actually see her fight, I can’t wait for Ozzy mans review, he’ll make a raunchily creepy comment, hey, he’s Aussie, they’re permitted. Speaking of, gotta see if he’s posted his latest review.
Ten Bears,
Imma only in-season
Ten Bears,
The most skillful fighter after getting her ass beat by terminator waif for 2 seasons. Now we are gonna believe that little girl will probably fuck up the Night King. Hell, I bet Lyanna Mormont is gonna tear those Walkers apart in episode 3.
Enharmony1625,
Kind of an odd mood to have Cersei in an episode called Winterfell but not in the next 2…
costello,
Cersei is too busy with the most arrogant man, she ever met.
I haven’t read the comments yet so apologies if these are repeated spec BUT I think all the dark photos you mark as “planning photos” are actually more likely to be Jon and Dany invite those closest to them to a meeting to share Jon’s parental news. The one of him and Arya backs this up the most to me.
As far as Jaime goes, I am imagining the scene playing out something like this:
Jaime pleads his case and Dany asks those gathered “Does anyone here vouch for this man? kind of scoffing as she says it. Tyrion speaks up, which is expected and then Dany asks “Anyone else…?” After just a beat too long, when it seems like no one else will speak, Brienne says “I vouch for this man,” which shocks many, as she is known to be as honest as they come. Dany manages to hide her surprise long enough to ask if anyone else vouches for him but before she can get the question all the way out, Bran says “I vouch for him” which causes an audible shockwave through the crowd. Dany realizes she can’t really continue now as the Lord of Winterfell, her love’s brother (I am taking it this scene will happen before all the truthy stuff is revealed), has spoken.
Now, I am sure it will all play out in a completely different way that is way more nuanced and quite emotional in its own right, I just love to guess how it might all go down. I drive my husband nuts texting him theories all day long 😛
RG,
I agree with your observation about Tyrion. In fact, he’s been looking gloomy and preoccupied ever since his meeting with Cersei. And the look Bran gave him after Sansa left the balcony was chilling.
Clob, I don’t spend enough time here to know who is who of the commenters, but damn if I don’t know that Clob the commenter absolutely hates little Lyanna Mormont!
I feel like they’re being awfully secretive about Melly Sanders’ role this season. Either she shows up to Winterfell next ep with a bunch of Lord of Light holy rollers or else she’s some sort of Deus Ex Fiery Hand during the battle, which I would really hate as they’ve played that card already with the knights of the Vale showing up during BoB. The only Deus Ex Machina I will cheer is Nymeria’s pack, if and when that happens.
RG,
hahaahhah Sansa does deserve herself some Pod. Dream ship right there, ill sail it. Also the irony in their union being his cousin beheaded Ned
My thoughts precisely. From the moment Arya got home, her ‘smart’ sister gave her nothing to do, included her in nothing–not even training civilians. And according to the S7E4 scenario, right after the sparring (they had not yet argued), Sansa realised that Brienne would also defend Arya if need be and was worried about that. When Jon asks “Where’s Arya?” Sansa replies “Lurking somewhere.” Thanks, mate. Truth to tell, I was relieved they reconciled on the battlements, last season. But Sansa seems as superior and selfish as ever; to wit–her behaviour towards Daenerys. I wager Arya is in that war planning meeting ONLY because Jon is in charge.
I’m loath to be criticising Sansa once more. I started S8E1 prepared to like her because they had bonded. Perhaps the bonding was not mutual. Something has given me a niggling suspicion that she will in some way betray Arya before S8 is done. I sincerely hope I am wrong.
Uhh.. that would be one season. They didn’t fight or train at all until the start of season 6. And then Arya stuck her with Needle and plastered her face in the Hall of Faces. “Thanks for the training, b&tch.”
Personally I don’t believe Arya will kill the Night King, though it’s not completely out of the realm of possibility. Even if she does, it will (I hope) be some kind of a tag-team effort along with Jon & Bran.
Wolfish,
That makes more sense. And then if the gc are defeated she can kill the last ones standing by her own army.
Ten Bears,
True, but I mean more how awesome maissie is acting. That’s not something every actor or actress can do. It is amazing how amazing the actors on this show are.
Enharmony1625,
I think they moved some scenes from episode 2 to 4. Making 4 longer and 2 shorter. And episode 4 till 6 are all 3 80 minutes so enough kl stuff there.
When thinking about the things that would happen this season, I never even imagined a trial scenario for Jaime..
And yet it seems so obvious now.
SO excited.
Battle preparation episodes are always some of my favorites, because it infuses every scene with a sense of urgency and momentum.
WorfWWorfington,
Thanks for the many laughs!! Spot on…
Many believe AotD is defeated in ep3, but I don’t see a reason in the credits to show their progression from the wall just to WF, it has to be to indicate not just their invasion southward, but also timejumps. We could see the ep4 opening showing their progress to the neck or even near the trident, indicating months by having it zig zag and spread throughout northern Westeros.
Then there’s the rumor of a scene with Dany and Yara on Pyke, otherwise having Yara mention securing Iron Isles as a refuge wasn’t necessary storywise.
Ooh, I see the dastardly Sansa has been at it again. Now she’s guilty of not giving her amazing independent faceless ninja sister anything to do. How callous of her. Doesn’t she know that’s apparently her responsibility now for some reason?
Of course, were she telling her sister what to do, she’d still be in trouble for acting superior and not treating Arya as an equal, now wouldn’t she?
But thankfully Prince Aegon has arrived. “You shall go to the war council”, he tells poor Ary-ella, much to the chagrin of her selfish, superior sister.
Sigh. And we were so ready to like Sansa, it’s true. All those months of talking her down; eagerly trying to convince people at every opportunity that she would’ve stabbed everybody in the back were it not for brave, selfless Ary-ella; and lapping up any theory that suggested her betraying her family or screwing things up for everybody in the final season are a sure sign of acceptance and an open mind.
But she’s gone and blown all of our good faith again by doing something, apparently. I’m not sure if it was breathing or speaking but, boy, is it the final straw!
I’m picking up an opposite of a “working it out” vibe from the Dany/Sansa Library meeting. I think that they are gonna do some more verbal jousting and things are going to deteriorate even more.
That thing in the bottom right corner of the image of Tyrion looks like the pommel of Widow’s Wail, so Tyrion and Jaime are probably hanging out having their final brotherly chat before the battle… and the likely death of one of them.
Last picture of Dany…..is it me or does her costume look like a preggo suit? I guess it can work with both, but a bit of foreshadowing?
Also…..the Greyworm picture….they should have used a different picture cuz that weapon is super rubber in it hahah
HelloThere,
They really need Jaime to help with battle strategy. No one since Robb really had an effective strategy and Sansa won’t have an extra army up her sleeve this time. However the dead can’t be bargained with. The NK won’t care much if Jaime catapults one of this WW kids. But seriously they really do need him as a General. They don’t need his left handed sword.
Ramsay’s 20th Good Man,
Good eye.
Stark Raven’ Rad,
Sansa isn’t keeping Arya away from anything. If Arya isn’t there, it’s because she doesn’t want to be there.
Ha! Well, it used to be that I just thought she was severely overrated. That of course was made worse when Essie Davis’ brilliant performance lost S6 WotW Best Guest to a girl that just said a few lines in an arrogant manner… then won S7 too for even less (while the still qualifying Indira was moved to Supporting). Enough of my pouting on that though.
I’d said a while back that I hope that if they use the character in S8 they better give her some normal conversational scene(s), like with Jorah for example. With as many times as I watch each episode I’ve grown really, really tired of the same schtick coming out of her growling facial expression. What did we get in the premiere? The same face and the same kind of dialogue. It’s like someone farted, kicked her dog and ran away. 😒
Davos cooking up fermented crab.
Pod will be ready for battle.
Enharmony1625,
Yeah, I don’t blame Sansa or any character. I’ve just been curious this week how ‘separated’ from everything Arya was in e1. At the very least I figured she’d at least be in the hall during the gathering. Apparently she spent those days just wandering around by herself and drawing pictures of weapons. ☺
Speaking of “days” just made me think about something. I don’t believe I’ve read once this week how Ned Umber was back at Last Hearth already. So in real time J&D would have had to be at Winterfell for quite some time already… I know… jetpacks.
Kevin1989,
“True, but I mean more how awesome maissie is acting. That’s not something every actor or actress can do. It is amazing how amazing the actors on this show are.”
At the very end of Maisie’s scene with Gendry, that little half spin and smile back on her way out was… delightful. Who couldn’t fall in love with that smile?
Arya Gendry S8e1
Oh, I did too!
And who says a nontraditional, warrior woman can’t be beguiling?
PS Tinfoil Alert ⚠️
The weapon Arya diagrammed for Gendry to make for her could very well be a DG spear that can separate into two shorter rapiers. However, I think it might be a hidden spring loaded sleeve device – similar to the sleeve gun frame used by Robert DeNiro’s character in “Taxi Driver”:
Clob,
Ha! I love the idea that while Sansa, Jon, Dany, Tyrion and the rest are in some boring meeting, Arya is out researching and designing a weapon that will ASNAWP her into even more ASNAWP-edness.
I know right? That little spin-flirt-n-smile was perfection!
I also loved Maisie’s expression when she meets Jon by the Weirwood just as she breaks into a run and jumps into his arms. I’ve watched it at least a dozen times and it gets me every time!
Ser Davos looks like he’s eavesdropping on the conversation Gilly appears to be having with someone.
Who is Sansa looking at in that picture? Whomever it is, she seems….interested. I’m guessing it’s Sandor Clegane. All that pleading and whining Sansa did in S1 because she wanted to marry a handsome prince makes me think she’ll end up with just the opposite. He was one of the few men to be truly kind to her. Besides Tyrion, her husband, that is. But Tyrion will have more important things to do, because
#TyrionFortheThrone!
LordVarysParts,
Arya was BLIND while getting her “ass kicked” by Terminator 2 Waif.
Nevertheless, whose blood-dripping face is on display in Braavos, and who’s alive and well and stealing the heart of a smitten smith in the WF forge?
Clob,
What does it matter if ellie Davis lost how you perceive the actress and character of Lady mormont. Wotw is just a fan site and the polls here is not a reason why you should dislike another character.
And season 8 is not done. I expect a scene between jorah and her this season. Maybe even next episode.
Clob,
Probably working on her skills. I think as the one fighting, practice is more important than a meeting.
Ramsay’s 20th Good Man,
But with who? And why? If Davos is eavesdropping it is probably something about Sam’s plan. And if it was with Sansa it would be in a secret room.
Or maybe she is there with little Sam and Davos gets the father vibe again and wil play grandad with him.
Hasn’t Cersei been pregnant long enough for Euron to sail to Essos, muster an army, and sail back again? She still isn’t showing. And Baby Sam is not yet a toddler. Babies grow slow on Westeros, apparently, and those we think are pregnant never are. The style of dress makes it hard to tell.
I expect to hear Bran’s “home” speech…to Theon.
I don’t get how Yara thinks she can take back the II just because Euron’s away. I mean I suppose it will work out because show logic…but she has what, 3 ships worth of men? What’s to stop Euron from sending 20 of his “1000” ships to kill them all?
For those who study the costume hints…thoughts on the pic of Jon?
Ginevra,
Well I have my suspicions about Cersei’s situation, but you’re right about baby Sam. He has weird growing cycles. Maybe a Craster thing. 🙂
Clob,
IMO Arya was doing her FM Cat of the Canals routine. Blending in and observing to get a feel for the situation on the ground. The only two people she couldn’t resist interacting with were Jon and Gendry (both of whom she discussed weapons with btw lol) And Sandor, of course, but I think that was more a matter of timing than intention.
The WotW Award wasn’t the reason I dislike the character, and I have nothing against Bella herself. Like I said, I just felt the character was overrated by a bunch for what it was and what she did. It was a small part with just a handful of lines in a few scenes all of the same “note.” Essie had a much meatier part, was great and think she deserved the recognition, even if it doesn’t get them anything. It just exemplified how overrated I feel Lyanna was at the time so that’s why I mentioned it.
I believe I’ll feel a lot better about the character if they give her something other to do than just have that damn scowl all the time and spit out the same snotty dialogue. They DO have time left so I hope they’ve done that. Give Bella something other than The Bit. 😉
Tyjon,
I am going to guess they lose, Winterfell is sacked, and whoever lives will have to flee through the crypts.
I just realized
Episode 2 will most likely be the very last episode where the characters have any plot armor (Just my guess). Episode 3 and on… They will begin to fall
I am not ready… Not after so many years
RG,
Speaking of “blending in and observing”
She’s going to have some wicked skill at it in the books! That special and rare ability she has is ideal for that!
Clob,
Definitely. And to be honest, we can’t be 100% sure she wasn’t in every scene in Winterfell, right? Okay, except for the dragon ride. 🙂
She has a bag full of faces. A few of them less recognizable than Walder’s.
WorfWWorfington,
Hahaha 😛 – I love it! Keep’em coming 😀 😀
I’m sensing a getting to know each other heart to heart talk between Sansa and Dany. Nice. Doesn’t fit the narrative I thought the show was going in after seeing the first episode though. I’m most intrigued by the Jorah, Varys, Dany photo where the men are looking skeptical or a bit sardonic. Dany is wide eyed but I can’t tell what she’s feeling.
Davos in that photo – caption
“Eh’up – grub is served… Get in line for yer bowl of brown!” 🙂
Arya being included is everything.
check out the dagger on Grey Worm… is it suppose to curve like that or is that just a goof lol… small minor thing I guess…
Gilly is talking to Davos. You can see his cloak in the corner of the photo, compare the material to his cloak in the picture of him. Maybe she’s filling him in on what she read 😉
And I agree, that’s Tyrion taking to Jaime from the promo shots, same lighting ect. I wonder if they are awaiting a judgement?
Yeah! I’m really interested in a one-to-one chat with Dany and Sansa, just them, nobody else! While the Dance Moms lover in me kind of loves the side-eye, I’m hoping we get a deeper, more in-depth interaction between these two 🙂
Jorah with that confused kitten look I’d been missing. Davos’ eyebrow needs it’s own spin-off. And Jon and Arya in a still together, yay!!! Love the one with Gilly and Sam.
Is lyanna mormont gonna be rude again..
I hope someone puts her in her place..
It cost Sansa loss of her father, mother, brother, sister( according to her at that time), sapta, her wolf to fully understand cersei..But she calls dany out who had greater threat to face than cersei…
I mean who would think that War with army of dead is not important than holding titles and thrones as jon put it.. Apparently cersei does and so does Sansa and northern lords and ladies..
Does the most intelligent person Arya ever knows and best player of politics think it’s best tactic to be snarky and enrage the queen who has come to help them with all she got..
Wouldnt Intelligent people know what dragons eat anyway..
Sam’s line about whether dany will do the same..will she put the people first..
Open your eyes Sam.. dany is alread there and not in Dragonstone fighting Cersei where the stupid northern lords even after all this season doesn’t understand the threat while dany has done more against the AOTD in one season..
I do hope there is a discussion about what a stupid decision that umber boy made in the next episode..
They will. In spades. And the droves of Curtain Calls will kill me, as usual, as will the Beautiful Deaths.
Wow! Baby Sam has really grown…into another actor. Simply amazing.
Dragonbringer,
You know lyanna is right here. Still can’t believe dany hardcore fans can’t seem to understand that and have that tunnelvision with her.
About the dragons, what they eat is too much. Damn they ate more than I in a month and that dothraki dude says: they are barely eaten.
Dragonbringer,
Is she there to help or to gain power? If she won’t bow to jon it’s clear she is there for power not to help.
About the important. As Isaac says bran is only concern in defeating the ww threat and is putting things in place.
He made sure the tension is there before the army of the dead arrives. So this tension is important to defeat the army of the dead. Why? Is it so that after the tension they could heal and be stronger together. Or is it more that bran knows dany on the throne is dangerous? And Jon needs to be there to defeat this treat.
Pigeon,
Wondering if er have a death next episode. Maybe Dany will excecute somebody.
And didn’t ned die in episode 1?
Do Grey Worm have a plastic knife?
The eye-line isn’t right for Davos and Gilly, even if he sat down – maybe if he bends to great little Sam? It is the same area though, so Davos and Gilly are together, but I think there is another person… little Sam wouldn’t be as interesting as… Missandi
I could totally see Davos and Missandi talking/working (looks like they are preparing food) and Gilly with little Sam coming to say hi to Davos and being curious to met one of the new comers and Missandi would be a perfect choice. Gilly would be welcoming and nice and it would be a sweet meeting and conversation 🙂
Winterkat,
For those who study the costume hints…thoughts on the pic of Jon?
It’s the first time he’s not worn a Stark logo’s since he left the Nights Watch I believe, that could be telling?
except for when he was boning his Aunt that is
Kevin1989,
Yes lyanna is there and being snarky to dany who has come to help.
If she with her 62 soldiers have that much of an ego..imagine the ego of the the one who has dragons and largest army one westeros..
If she doesn’t want the help she can leave like the umber boy and fight the WW with her 62 soldiers..LoL
What power she will gain out of North which is at the brink of extinction..
And if she does what’s wrong in it ..
She has produced and put everything she has gained and also her own life and her dragons to help the north but the north won’t even respect for what she is doing..
What does North offer in return to such favor..
Please save that once North is defeated she would face the same threat.. well she would or she can let WW full of westeros and leave for the Dragons bay and start fresh..
But she is there in the north right now already saved jon and help bring the evidence that will make westeros people understand and see the threat ..that it’s not just a story..
I remember a time when dany just went asking help To qarth and nothing to offer and practically she was a begger.. how she was treated back then..
The same applies to North which doesn’t have anything to offer but expect all the help they can get but will not respect the one who gives that help..
I hope that they fix that whole Sansa/Northern Lords vs Jon/Dany thing in this ep, because it’s getting more irrational and stupid by the moment, with them all facing total annihilation with the troops of NK practically at WF’s door!
I’d like Sansa to become useful instead of whinging and advise Dany, as Tyrion perhaps isn’t at his best situation at the moment. And someone tell her what Arya said to Jon – forget not that he(Jon) is family too, and finally join Jon team before or after the reveal of who he is, I don’t care. The pack survives goes both ways and tearing apart Arya and Sansa from Jon creates a plot hole, since they claim that they are protecting family; Jon is a Stark too so they should protect him and help him; he’s fighting to protect all human kind, including his family. And they could ask Bran about whatever questions they have and resolve this stupid tension arc.
I’d also love to see Theon return Jon’s speech – ‘You’re a Stark and a Targaryen, you don’t have to choose’; I’d love to see that. 🙂
That said, I wonder if Jon’s identity will become known to everyone in this ep, or if Jon will decide to keep it a secret. It’s a game changer and if out, it will definitely have important impact to many arcs, many people will have to decide where they stand.
I’m looking forward to see how things go with Bran/Jamie – I hope that Bran steps in his favour – it would have a nice symmetry, and show how Bran is beyond all that, as the 3eyed raven.
Will Dany and Sansa hold hands and sing Ring-around-the-Rosies? I guess that could happen, and then they could name the episode Game of Flowers, right? Who needs thrones when you’ve got flowers?
My guess is that the drama is just getting started and that the meat of Episode 2 will be Winterfell fighting amongst themselves in their struggle for power and who-is-right-ness. Everything will explode when Dany finds out she’s lost her claim, and then the Army of the Dead will hopefully bring focus back to where it should be.
Ginevra,
My guess is that the drama is just getting started and that the meat of Episode 2 will be Winterfell fighting amongst themselves in their struggle for power and who-is-right-ness. Everything will explode when Dany finds out she’s lost her claim, and then the Army of the Dead will hopefully bring focus back to where it should be.
yep thats the lamest thing ‘they could come up with, it’s bound to be what we see. Kind of just like the Arya/Sansa rift last season before they team up to kill LF.
There’s a pic of what looks like Brienne standing in the Great Hall. She is definitely going to speak for him. She has never spoken out in one of these meetings before, or in front of any large groups except for when she was asking to be in Renly KG. Now she is going to stand before the Starks, the daughter of the Mad King and all the Northerners and defend him!
No Beautiful Death for the Umber boy? His death was already striking, and it would be awesome to see this death spiral juxtaposed with the three dragons of the Targaryen sygil.
***tiptoes off-topic and wonders how much trouble she’ll get in***
What is the scene on the astrolabe at the very beginning, with a dragon or three burning some structure? Is that the burning of King’s Landing we’ve seen in Dany’s and Bran’s visions? We’ll likely see this ambiguous astrolabe scene again in Episode 2. (See how I tied this back into the topic at hand?)
https://www.instagram.com/p/BwZO7KOhU9J/
viki,
Yep, I think you’re right, better eyelines.
It may even be Missandi talking to Gilly – possibly about feelings concerning their men going off to fight – it was in an article that Sam fights – while Davos serves himself, listening, then he gets involved in the conversation? Missy’s cloth is similar the material in the corner. But then everyone is wearing grey…
I hope Little Bear is talking to Jorah, it will probably be about Dany. Imagine how pissed the Northern Lords are going to be if they find out Dany was willing to help *before* Jon bent the knee and, from their perspective, gave away their hard won independence?
When do you think Dany will find out about Jon’s parentage?
On Jaime’s trial:
Will the Stark kids mention LF set up the war?
Will Jamie bring up Rhaeger, tell Dany he loved his prince or his regret of not protecting the royal children, or something? Will Jon then look at him broodingly?
If R’s KGs are brought up, is there the possibility someone asks – or answers, Bran – why the KG were at the Tower of Joy with LS?
Is it more dramatic for Dany to find out about Jon before the battle? If Jon doesn’t tell her before the battle will she feel used?
🙂
whateverdgaf,
Oh I hope so! I will need smelling salts to avoid my inevitable swooning. The pre season interviews have teased something between these two, if we get nothing I will have to start writing fanfiction.
Ginevra,
Luka posted about it in his previous post that also digressed into other topics. 😂But here’s the link he posted:
https://www.thewrap.com/game-of-thrones-opening-credits-new-season-8-premiere-what-you-missed-easter-eggs/
They indeed confirm that the astrolabe includes images that have already come to pass (the red wedding and the birth of dragons — and a “bleeding star” can be seen above them) as well as events that have not yet occurred. I agree that it does look like the dragons are setting KL aflame.
Laura,
If it happened according to your prediction, it would be awesome!
Now I am even more curious about next episode…
Yes!! Especially re: Lynna. That’s probably where she wants to be anyway…we’ll see for how long…;p I liked her at first, but by now her constant attitude is starting to get on my nerves. Though not nearly as badly as Sansa’s (“smartest person you’ve ever met?” Oh, Arya my girl, don’t EVEN! The unearned praise heaped on that one only serves to make me like her even less, and she’s got just five episodes left to turn it around. Not really holding my breath.)
Tell it like it is, Dragonbringer!
Pigeon,
I would miss almost any character who has reached season 8. Preparing to weep for many of them…
Tron79,
I think that the end of the season trailer where you see the White Walker’s horse stepping towards Winterfell will be the final scene of next episode.
Dragonbringer,
I think you fully misunderstood what Sam is trying to say with that she bend the knee to Jon.
The north will never follow Dany, they will follow Jon. Same for the Vale. That is made clear by Yohn royce stance, we will not bow to the daughter of the Mad Queen. He did follow Jon at the end of season 6.
The riverlands will never follow her. If they ever want to defeat Cersei in the end they need them. Meaning Dany needs to step down to heal.
The citadel also made it clear they don’t like Dany, and the citadel has a huge influence over the people.
If Dany holds on to her power it only lead to one thing: The demise of human kind in Westeros. Bran knows and that’s why he want Dany dethroned. Jon can bring everyone together as king. Think about that, why does Bran want Dany dethroned and Jon crowned, and as Isaac stated, Bran’s only goal is now to make sure the WW treat is defeated.
Dany will only bring death and destruction to Westeros. Blood and Ash.
As for why the people better could follow Jon is the following:
– Jon only make clear that you should follow the law. He did kill people before but only because they broke the law, the law of the NW. He even let Mellisandre go. He does not want to be warshipped, if somebody disagree with him or not follow him blindly he will not put person to the axe. He is even burdened by the death of the people he killed.
– Dany takes a step further, she not only asked for people to obbey the law, but also if they don’t bow to her, agree with her 100%, looking at her as the massiah, she will put and end to those people. She acts and dany fans don’t want to hear that, as a tyrant. We all know her goal is pure, but her ways are evil.
You even saw that the way Jon reacted when he learned of Dany killing the Tarly’s. He was horrified. And look that scene again when Dany talk to Sam, there was no compassion, she was there to gain something for herself, even when telling Sam she acted like she was just in her action instead of telling him, it happened and she wished she could do it otherwise, even more she talk in a cold way, no emotion at all.
So ask yourself: Why should Dany be queen when half the country despise her, instead of letting Jon take the lead who could bring everybody together?
Why do you think Dany’s demise as queen is important to the defeat of WW? (make clear by Isaac words that his only goal is defeat of WW and bran is taking Dany down)
Who do you think Jon will stand by, his family or his lover? If Bran, Sansa, Arya, Sam all force him to let Dany go?
And last question, if the truth come out, who do you think Tyrion, Varys, Davos, Brienne etc will follow?
ps. I’m not saying Dany is evil, she is not. But her action has consequences, she put a mask on that the world sees and judged her for.
Stark Raven’ Rad,
Sansa’s attitude is realistic; the same as many step children feel when their mom comes home with a new beau after dad dies. Sibs do the same thing. Yes perhaps its selfish but she’d not acting outside the norm here
ash,
Don’t forget that what she went through, and she understood the big mistakes she made with her family in the past. She is so focused on keeping her family safe from any harm that could befall them. After so long she finally feels like Arya is her sister. She has bran sort of back, now Jon. She overreacts probably but it’s understandable.
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About Dany, she should have use a different route in the north.
“You catch more flies with honey than you do with vinegar”
She should not have come there with I’m the queen, listen to me and obey. The northerners are proud people. What she should have done was get to the point, the WW invasion, and ask the advice of the northerners. Make them feel like they are the ones that know how the north works. Make them feel like they aren’t obeyed to listen to her, but that Dany is in fact listening to the northern lords what they want.
If she done that she would have won over the north.
I think we all know how this episode is going, should be better than ep 1, with the night king at winter town and defenses built political and otherwise conflicts and getting to know eachother, and jamies trial, bran will defend jamie, he will be saved , then the white walkers come , cue the end, its ep 3 i am interested in, as we might get some surprises.
p.s poor grey worm he is so doomed,
Hopefully Lyanna Mormont doesn’t eaves drop Davos saying he’s not a fighter, I’d hate for her to lose respect for him.
Mormont is getting annoying now, time for her to be turned into a walker
Bran is just a voyeur, watching sex scenes in his mind and creeping everyone out, three eyed raven and one eyed willy
Isaac Hempstead photo. The window in the background is the same one from where Dany closes her eyes sadly. (?)
Thanks, Dark Sister! Did Luka make a full post about the intro or just a comment? I would love to see a full post. I made screenshots of pretty much all that you mentioned, but a post with embedded images discussing them would be so much better. Slowing the intro down to a quarter speed was quite helpful in catching everything but that one dragon burning image we’d not yet seen, which is always a bit hard to see on the left side especially.
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/qf783hwb3ap1vmf/AAD-utEcVUOefCJDx5icKn4fa?dl=0
Well, it may be as lame as last season if the fight ends as impotently as it did last season. Or we could hope that Sansa would launch a massive coup d’état by getting the Northmen to support her as QitN. We could hope that Jon breaks from Dany as he gains support from his newly acquired dragon (thanks so much, Auntie!), his Wildlings, and many in the North. We could hope that Dany launches Drogon and the Unsullied to fell Winterfell once and for all. And we could hope that the Army of the Dead shows up just as Dany gets off the ground, just as the Kings of Winter begin to wake.
isildur,
Wait. What? Which one of Dany closing her eyes?
Raenarys,
In the trailer (she closes her eyes sadly)
isildur,
Ah gotcha. That’s my fault: I purposely don’t watch the “on the next ep of GOT” lol. I like surprise.
I wonder if this is a Lyanna/Jorah meeting with Mormont soldiers in the background
This is an issue that needs to be broached, he is fighting there on behalf of the Mormonts given being a major advisor/assistant to Dany equates to a pardon
I wonder if Jorah will lead them, this may help his arc complete going back to S1?
Ghost’s Lunch,
Oh, I would love that! Nice theory.
Do you just make up dialogue, scenes and shit in your head because your Daenerys hate is so strong? She did not ONCE say or do any such thing.
Daenerys immediately addressed Sansa very politely and thanked her for hosting them. That is it, yet she was responded to very dryly in a disrespectful manner and did not retort. When everyone in Winterfell would most certainly die without the help she brought I think anyone would expect at least a little bit of respect and appreciation. Nope.
In the great hall meeting Daenerys didn’t say a word and just listened until Sansa started bitching about the very help that they needed, men and the dragons. Of course her response of “whatever they want” was a little bitter. Anybody would take offense to everyone shitting on her assistance. Jon and Tyrion spoke about why Daenerys and her forces came and it was ALL about defending against Death, nothing about “obey and listen” to her.
She never addressed anyone else about that stuff or anything. In fact, the only other person she spoke with other than Jon was Sam and she just told him what happened. Sam is a “Jon’s man” anyway and not a Northerner.
Go ahead and keep writing your opinions and thoughts on what she is or is not but at least use ‘real’ stuff.
kevin1989,
Looking at Jons arc, he has often been put down a peg as part of a kind of “bridging the gap” exercise but this leads to his next jump.
This started with obviously leaving Winterfell and joining NW in the first place where he has Aemon (Fire) and Benjen (Ice) as mentor figures. He wanted to be a Ranger but was made part of the Stewards. Right from the start Sam was there to point out it was a leadership grooming exercise etc and then he saves Mormont and gets his Heroes sword “Longclaw”
This has been the case throughout his rise, Sam has often been influential. Jon obviously joins with the Wildlings, has to break some NW rules and goes through their rite of passage of climbing the Wall and he faces a trial where Aeomon saved him.
Sam was next influential in getting Jon elected Lord Commander, Jon then bridges the gap by going with Tormund to Hardhome. He gets Wildlings through Wall and then gets stabbed for it – brought down a peg
He then gets put up as King in the North, he then goes on another bridging exercise by getting Dany and Jaimie Lannister (if not Cersei) onside, so briding the North with some of the South. Gets put down a peg by giving up Northern Crown
Next he finds out his true heritage, via Sam so the setup is there for the next jump up. He has Longclaw and Ghost on the Ice side and on the Fire side he has just got Rhaegal and IMO he will be given Dawn – the sword Arthur Dayne was wielding – on the Fire side. Melisandre has been a major backer on the Fire God side and I’m looking forward to Jons conversation with Bran on the Ice God side
IMO I actually reckon NK attack on Winterfell will be a fakeout like Robb 2k against Tywin while 18k attacked Jaimie at Whispering Wood. He will fake attack Winterfell and head straight for Kings Landing.
This way a large number of characters and survive and the series coalesces around KL. But also I think Brans Dragon over KL was NK over Viserion not Dany on Drogon and like the HoU vision whereas Cersei blew up the Sept with Wildfire the NK will destroy the Red Keep with Ice Fire or whatever Wight Viserion breathes (interestingly what Dany was thinking of doing)
What makes me think this is Jaimies actions and the population of Kings Landing comes into focus. KL is where most of the prospective Wights are (500k to 1 million people?).
Also, Khaleesi Dany and Dothraki are kind of like NK and Wights where one is Fire and one is Ice and they are counterpoints to eachother, I reckon Sam learning about his Father/Brother was raised in this episode specifically because it is a thematic twin to what we saw the NK do to Ned Umber and to Westerosi both have been killed by foreigners
Thinking of KL and it being Aegon Conqueror starting point, NK will likely want to take KL, and with a million strong army then spread out and take all of Westeros and so kind of mimmick Aegons conquest in a sense?
A bit long-winded but my point is Jons arc needs to take the last jump as King Aegon VI of the entire 7 Kingdoms as someone with both Ice and Fire blood and he is the synthesis between the two as he was synthesis between NW and FF, North and then South when he bent knee and re-joined the North to rest of Westeros and so now he needs to be the King/leader and he’ll have Longclaw/Dawn, Ghost/Rhaegal. Then he’ll probably end up killed in the last episode or something lol
Thinking about it, the most surprising thing that the show can do, is put Jon and/or Dany on the throne, I am convinced that one/or both will die fighting the AotD.
For Dany, the show has raised questions about her ruling style, but in the end I think she could be the Prince that was promised. Her dragons are meant to destroy, she is a conquerer, and that is what I think she will do, but she will do it to protect the living. I do not believe she will rule the 7 kingdoms, she’s had that goal for so long, it would be incredible if she actually achieves it.
Jon, I just expect the Lord of Light to take his life when the job is done. I have no clue who rules Westeros after that, they may split the kingdoms again. I’m so sure that they will both die, that I will be shocked if they don’t. Personally, I would like to see Jon rule, but this show never gives me what I want lol.
I actually believe the WW will be defeated in episode 3. We aren’t going to get any more backstory about them or what they want. They want to end humanity. That’s it. And while I’d like a twist to make them more than just the big bad, I would like to move past them. I want the series to wrap up as a human drama. Not just trying to survive against a bunch of non-characters.
The final scene of this episode will almost certainly be the AOTD outside of Winterfell.
I’m going to offer another idea about Jaime’s presence. I don’t think he starts out “on trial.” I think they’re having a meeting, and he addresses them to tell them Cersei is not only not coming to help, but that she has assembled an army of mercenaries with Euron Greyjoy’s help, so that she can attack them. It might evolve into angry words with Dany, but I’m not convinced it starts that way. In general, I expect Jaime’s presence to be greeted with at least as much hostility and suspicion as Dany’s was. But I’m hoping that Bran and Brienne will defend him as a man of honor. I was also remembering the voice over of Bran in the trailer where he says “You’re right where you’re supposed to be…” And now wondering if it is Jaime he’s saying this to. One more thing. Jaime has Widows Wail. Made from Ned Stark’s sword. But he also may need dragonglass. Would be nice if they could fashion a dragon glass fist for his missing hand, with a dragon glass dagger attached. Then he’d be doubly armed with Valerian Steel and dragon glass.
It was an interview we reported on with the head of animation of the company that did the title sequence. Here it is.
Did I miss a scene? 🤔
Clob,
I don’t hate her as I stated before.
I didn’t mean diologue, I mean more her stance. Scaring the northerners with her dragons etc. Not showing emotion with Sam. I understand why she does it. But it’s not good pr and how she will be perceived. Like davos says she needs to work to get loyalty.
And yes that comment to Sansa could be received badly.
Ghost's Lunch,
True
What she tried to do came off Patronizing, just like Jon and Sansa did at Bear island.
Her power move with her dragons only scared the small folk, it was a PR fail.
Sansa may be bitchy and blunt but she and the north have 300 years of history to support their fears.
Add to those two veil threats, Danny is coming off as a pompous fool; she totally disregarded Darrio Naharis’s teaching: You want to rule, you need to know the land and it’s people. There’s things she does right, only to cancel them out soon after, and she continues to use her dragons as intimidation and fear, like Cersei does.
Hate Sansa if you want, but when you compare the three:
Between Cersei, Danny and Sansa, only she somehow managed to prepare, care for, shelter and have food for her people.
Cersei is – Let them eat cake… oh wait that’s my desert, well they’ll be improved when the dead come.
Danny is – We need that food before Cersei gets it…..burn i,t burn it, all.
Even if the food Sansa managed to save all burn up on the night of battle, she still gave her people at least 1 -3 days more chance of survival, hope, and possible rescue and by extension Danny’s army too..
And she got winterfell prepared better then Jon may have expected, and better then he thought she could do, along with holding his small but shaky alliance ( minus Lord Glover ).
Grail King,
The Stark kids in this regard benefited from being raised by Ned and Catelyn. Ned was a great lord who cared about his people, Catelyn seemed to be a competent Lady. Sansa, Robb, Jon, Arya and Bran (Rickon might have been too young) were always exposed to what it meant to be a Lord Paramount with so much responsibility. None of the kids were pampered, none grew as petulant rich kids (not even Sansa). The show never delves into this but in the books, Jon is shown doing the very mundane things Lord Commanders do aside from commanding troops in battle. He is able to secure a loan from the Iron Bank to buy food for the Night’s Watch knowing that that was the only way to survive. Not sure how he was able to convinced the Iron Bank but he did nonetheless. Sansa and Jon know well how to deal with the mundane acts of governing.
Danny grew up exiled without any lands to her name with no one to teach her. And Cersei, well I imagine Tywin never really cared to teach her, in his eyes she was always meant to be the wife of a king. And Tywin likely cared very little about the well-being of his people.
Thinking about it, the most surprising thing that the show can do, is put Jon and/or Dany on the throne, I am convinced that one/or both will die fighting the AotD.
I would say Jon or Dany ending up on the throne is not so much surprising, but the most predictable outcome. I really hope they surprise us.
I have no clue who rules Westeros after that,
I don’t think, given the choice, that Jon would want to sit on the Iron Throne. If neither Dany nor Jon end up on the throne, Tyrion would be perfect for the job. He’s got the mind for it, and he did an excellent job of running things when he was Hand of the King. That’s my wish, anyway.
Grail King,
Patronizing is your interpretation, what I saw was sincere warmth. But it’s neither here nor there, because Sansa was going to treat Dany that way no matter what Dany did. That was very clearly sealed the moment Jon messaged that he bent the knee and was bringing them north. Frankly it seems like Sansa might have been salty if they arrived as equal allies (though I would hope not). So since her mind was made up, and yours, the dragons flying in was not the grand sight of the cavalry (fighter jets?) arriving to support the northerners against AOTD, but a mind-controlled flyover to threaten them with power. Perhaps it was both, perhaps neither, but it doesn’t matter because the northerners were set in their hostility before Dany arrived.
I’m not a Dany apologist, burning the wagons instead of confiscating them was a ridiculous, short-sighted thing to do. I just don’t understand this perception that she came in to Winterfell throwing her weight around.
I still do not understand Bran’s role. Why is Tormund the one to say they only have to sunrise for the AOTD?
So what is the guess for opening scene of the episode? One would think this gathering for everyone to be angry at Jaime is one of the first, right? I hope so anyway so afterward everyone can start working on their ‘togetherness.’ Logic might suggest that Jaime and Branmotron have a discussion first thing since Bran sat out there waiting for him like he needs to talk to him. They’ve been odd before though and not done what we’d expect. It wouldn’t surprise me at all if they saved a conversation between the two until after group hug meeting, without a word mentioned about the broken tower incident during.
Another candidate for Bran’s trailer line of “Everything you did brought you where you are now. Where you belong. Home…” could also be said to Theon. Winterfell was/is his true home. That’s where he was raised. He also has never had a chance to apologize to Bran. I can see them sharing a scene & Theon ultimately giving his life to save Bran as his final sacrifice & act of redemption.
Sheesh Lyanna gets one line per episode if she’s lucky and suddenly people hate her? She’s more loyal to house Stark than anyone, and she personally called for Jon to be named the King in the North. It makes sense that she, more than anyone, would object to him giving that up. Having said that, I do hope the writers give the character other material now – some interaction with Jorah perhaps.
Dany and Sansa were both abused and used, and sold off like goats. That could, perhaps should, create a bond between the two women but I’m not sure … Dany doesn’t see her forced marriage to Drogo as a bad thing.
Jon wants to forget what Sam said altogether so I can’t see him saying it to anyone immediately. He hasn’t come to terms with it. I imagine he will be chillier with Dany, though, which she won’t understand. The first seeds of discontent …
Thank you, Luka! I do recall reading bits of that part of the article, now, but I think I was almost entirely distracted by John’s remarks on Sam’s feelings by the time I got that far!
I think that very first opening sequence of the astrolabe must be Viserion bringing down The Wall. So not a hint of things to come, but there are promised hints of things to come from the opening credits! I can’t wait to find out what they are. The crypts? The floor map? The dragons in the Red Keep’s dungeons? Not. Long. Now.
Hmm, is she saying if it is in the opening, it is in the episode? Did we see the dragon skulls last time? Lyanna?
Me too. Even the characters that I haven’t felt that invested in before will be a sting this year, because of their longevity. Sigh.
That WOULD be a great poster, it’s true.
Definitely dragons burning somewhere or someone, but I don’t know how to tell where they are!
I must admit I didn’t expect photos to be released given all the secrecy but here is my tinfoil interpretation:
– Sam/Gily/Baby Sam. This one for me is Sam worrying and sharing his fears with Gilly. He may inform her that Jon is the true king or he could be worrying about their safety with the imminent battle.
– Bran at the tree. My guess is this is a vision going down, possibly about Jamie or the Army of the Dead, or finally about Dany likely it has some importance though.
– Sansa. She appears almost in a good mood, I wonder who she is talking to and about what? Maybe she finds out Jon the heir but over lunch it feels out of place.
– Jamie in the great hall, I think this is early in the episode and he will have support from Brienne, Tyrion and Bran whilst Dany wants to go Fire & Blood; at this point I highly doubt she knows she’s not a queen. I suspect this will be the main theme of the early part of the episode.
– Gilly. Could this be a follow on from the 3 in a bed convo with Sam where she informs someone that Jon is the rightful king perhaps? Who could she be talking with if it’s not Sam? Perhaps Tyrion/Varys?
– Greyworm/Missandei. The most boring romance in the show, hopefully they are setting the scene for one of them to die in the next episode it’s all I ask.
– Davos, this one had me stumped then I read your text (so far I’ve just looked at the pics) but I am guessing Gilly is telling Davos that Jon is the true king here and how they found out.
-Bran again. I think he’s talking either with Dany or Jon here. Most likely Jon about his parentage and why he must claim the 7 kingdoms instead of Dany/Cersei.
– Dany/Jorah/Varys. Clearly look like they have not found out she is not the Queen at this point. I think this is an emergency war council after Beric/Tormund arrive and Jon has not yet shared the news that he is the king.
– Tyrion. Again I think this is the war council, likely the middle segment of the episode.
– Sam & Jon. My take is that Jon is putting himself in harms way and Sam is not happy. Either that or Jon still hasn’t told Dany and Sam is concerned.
– Lady Mormont. She going to fight, please, please don’t let her die but sadly I think she may.
– Dany. Here she is talking to Sansa just before the scene we see in the preview I suspect. Alternatively she could be apologising to Sam, and he tells her that Jon is the true king at which point she threatens to reign down fire and blood.
Overall I suspect Jon is not going to tell Dany before the battle but Gilly will let it out somehow, Dany will find out and there will be a crisis towards the end of the episode just as the white walkers arrive.
This is pretty much how I see it, no deaths, lots of arguing, fall out from Jamie and fall out of Dany no longer being queen will be the focus. Probably a short segment in the South as that won’t feature next week.
I don’t think we will see the start of the battle but likely we will see the Army of the Dead arrive as the ending leaving us craving more next week.
Ps I think we will also find out if Dany is either pregnant or breaks bad when finding out she is not the queen. Neither can realistically be delayed much longer.
I have a feeling they will be building battlements and preparing to defend Kings Landing. If they are sent North I will be very surprised and it would mean they attack in episode 4. I feel next episode we will see them preparing Kings Landing maybe, a check in with Cersei, perhaps Euron leaving to retake the Iron Islands but mostly in the North.
Ginevra,
Ginerva, great work with the screenshots! Thank you
I’m really hoping she doesn’t. If I recall correctly, she doesn’t know that he pushed Bran. It might shock her and while I don’t think it will cast him in a different light, considering he saved her multiple times, this isn’t the time for her to try and sway anyone’s thoughts. Jaime needs to be able to own up to it, reveal his reasoning and show by his actions that he isn’t the same man. I expect Bran to let it go and maybe even be thankful (?) that it sent him towards his destiny. But this isn’t the time for fan service with a Brienne/Jaime moment and usually I eat up some fan service (*looking for a Sandor/Sansa reunion!*).
It would feel very forced if Dany is suddenly pregnant and wearing clothes to fit that one day after the last episode where she was clearly not pregnant. That said, if she’s going to get pregnant then it most likely be announced this episode otherwise she won’t have a baby without a big time jump in the season.
Kells,
It really has nothing to do with fan service though. Yes, Jaime will have to defend himself, but if there are others who can give testimony to how he has changed since the beginning of the series, or at least, provide insight into some of the good deeds he’s done since then, Brienne is certainly one of them.
Of course, that’s if it’s even necessary. Bran will probably just tell everyone to get over their personal bullshit and work together to defeat the NK and Cersei, as if he’s the only adult in a room full of petulant children.
Dany is going to be PISSED at Tyrion when she finds out Cersei isn’t coming as promised.
True but I still think the Brienne’s defense of Jaime would mean nothing to Dany. I still would find a wee fan servicey (if that’s even a word) if it’s Brienne singing his virtues, instead of Tyrionm, who Dany trusts (for now).
Of course we are only one episode in but there still hasn’t been any strife about the Lannisters role in the Red Wedding. I’m hoping, in addition to the Bran shove, that is brought up. Why would a Stark trust a Lannister at all? Of course, all of the intrigue means nothing with the army of dead at their doorstep. It’s a loose end I would like to see referred back to.
Wow spot on, that fits so well and nobody predicted it. With Theon almost certainly returning next episode it makes total sense.
So we will deal with the following:
– Jamie being trialled
– Theon returning and needing to reconcile with Bran
– Dany realising she is not Queen
– Jon dealing with being the true heir
– White Walkers arriving.
Plenty to go down in the episode.
kells,
Dany is going to be pissed at Tyrion when she finds out that Cersei isn’t coming. That’s definitely going to erode some of the trust she still has in Tyrion, if there’s still any trust to be had. I’m sure Tyrion will do his best to defend his brother, but I don’t know if Dany’s going to want to hear it from him.
I also think the trailer for episode 2 is somewhat misleading. They make it look like Dany is going to want to sentence Jaime to death, but she’s already stated in previous episodes that she understands how terrible her father was, so I don’t think she’ll go in that direction, but who knows? If she does then it would contradict what we’ve already seen on screen, so I hope they don’t do that.
Besides, Bran will probably be the one to say what needs to be said to set everyone straight.
I would like to see the Red Wedding brought up as well, but Jaime had nothing to do with that, at least in the show, so I think it might be misplaced by bringing it up during Jaime’s “trial”.
I’ve seen and heard numerous people predict this and I think it’s a correct prediction as well. Some thought the “old friend” that Bran was talking about might be Theon too, but it’s obviously Jaime.
I’m right there with ya.
“… about all the things we would do to that man…” (that murdered our father) showing Jaime looking concerned.
I wouldn’t be surprised if the next word she says is, “but.” We know how Daenerys likes to come on stern and strong when she’s meeting people, especially ‘enemies’ in that type of setting. I think she has to show everyone in that room that she can be somewhat soft-hearted, forgiving, and understanding of the position Jaime was in.
If she does show she has that capability maybe some of them will BEGIN to see her in a bit better light. Of course some would still probably prefer she go nutso and fry him because he’s a Lannister… That would reinforce their bad thoughts of Daenerys, but they’d also be rid of a Lannister. How do two hated people by the North win in their eyes in a dispute between each other? Hmmm…
Not sure if these have been posted somewhere, but here are two commentaries about scenes in Episode 1. They’re not listed on the GoT Youtube channel, so have relatively tiny view counts – a great shame as they’re excellent.
Game of Thrones | Cast Commentary: The Reunion
Game of Thrones | Cast Commentary: A Cold Welcome
Luka Nieto,
Hey Luka,
I saw your twitter thread suggesting that the Red Priests might play a role. That seems to be a sensible speculation to me! We rewatched the last two seasons a couple of weeks back, and we were struck by just how many times we were shown the Red Clerics showing support for Daenerys. It really felt like a gun hanging to me!
And, of course, we know that their priests do get glimpses of what is to come in the flames; they do not always interpret them correctly, but they also do not always get them wrong. So, it’s not Deus ex Machina, either! (Well, it is, but not like that….)
Queen of Nothing,
You’re welcome. I’ve fallen in love with the new intro.
There seem to be a few more from the usual site – although they haven’t been 100% accurate before, they’re usually pretty close. Some are ones seen before but not directly attributed to E2. Including the one of Jaime smiling:
http://www.farfarawaysite.com/section/got/gallery8/gallery2/hires/20.jpg
Brienne:
http://www.farfarawaysite.com/section/got/gallery8/gallery2/hires/17.jpg
http://www.farfarawaysite.com/section/got/gallery8/gallery2/hires/15.jpg
Davos:
http://www.farfarawaysite.com/section/got/gallery8/gallery2/hires/16.jpg
Dany:
http://www.farfarawaysite.com/section/got/gallery8/gallery2/hires/14.jpg
Slightly different frame of Sansa:
http://www.farfarawaysite.com/section/got/gallery8/gallery2/hires/19.jpg
Apologies if these have all been posted, I’m not much of a finder. 😉
Sigh. Alrighty, if I can’t post them, most of you know where to go to the usual photo site for additional E2 photos. Nothing drastic. 🙂
Gilly remembers that the WWs wanted her baby, and may still want him. I’m sure Sam worries about the same. Possible she is conversing with Davos, who has an affinity for children and may be asking about him?
Sansa – did she just get a bowl of brown from Gendry? Big ship incoming. If Dany and Jon are out of the running, Gendry has a claim to the throne.
Arya has to show off her Face skills at least a few times this season. Will she dare wear the face of a WW? Is that even possible?