We’re in the Game of Thrones in-season now, with interviews galore. Here’s a fresh batch, featuring Sophie Turner, Joe Naufahu, Gemma Whelan and more!
In a new interview with the New York Times, Sophie Turner shares her thoughts on her scenes in the season premiere, and gives a peek at what Sansa Stark will be up to this year. On the moment when Sansa accept’s Brienne’s vow of loyalty, the actress says,
It felt like the first time since maybe Tyrion that someone has really been on her side and rooting for her — Littlefinger had questionable morals. So it was a really big deal for them to just swear to be good to each other, and for the first time Sansa believes it. She knows she has the power to start gathering people to help her on her journey.
As for what else her character will be up to in season 6, Turner offers this:
“It’s about her going to people and trying to get them to listen to her, and showing them that she’s not just a stupid young girl anymore. She’s been through it all and she’s come out the other side with vast amounts of knowledge. She knows how to manipulate and she knows the politics — she’s had a front seat for this kind of thing from the moment she was a prisoner for the Lannisters. She’s watched Cersei and Margaery and Littlefinger and Tyrion, and she’s learned from all of them. Now she knows how to play the game.”
While speaking with IGN, Turner explains further:
Her motivation going forward is revenge on all the people that have done her wrong. […] The fact that she has someone behind her now foreshadows the fact that she’s going to start building a group of people who really listen to her for the first time. It’s important that the first one of them is a woman, and that’s her only gateway into making the men listen to her. It definitely foreshadows good things for her.
As for Brienne and Sansa’s new alliance, Turner explains, “They’re kind of like a duo who are quite powerful in their own right because Brienne has these amazing set of skills and also is such a strong woman and really inspires Sansa to be that person, to stand up in front of her enemies. Sansa knows how to play the game.”
There is more in the IGN and New York Times interviews, so check them out!
Yara Greyjoy is returning in season six, and the Ironborn storyline looks to be on the rise. Gemma Whelan talks to StarryMag about her work on Game of Thrones. She avoid spoilers, but opens up about Yara and her relationships.
“I think people can see form watching the show that at her core she cares deeply about the morally correct thing to do, but has also worked very hard to get where she is as a leader of men and a strong, fierce warrior in her own right in Theon’s (Alfie Allen) absence. I think her relationship with her father is volatile, as we have seen as well. I suppose like any family they have got their problems, but they know each other quite well – Yara and Balon ”
The actress tells a funny tale about her first season on Game of Thrones. “The first thing I ever did was my final scene. It was very intimidating because it was at a huge table of men who were eating. Alfie comes into the hall all haughty and I was so nervous that day. I’m a vegetarian – or a pescatarian at least. But the stage direction was ‘Yara eating meat voraciously and swigging ale.’ Props didn’t know I was a vegetarian so they’d prepared all these chicken legs for me. I was so nervous to say, “I’m sorry I don’t eat meat,” that I just ate chicken all day. All the vegetarians out there will be screaming at me for having no integrity whatsoever,” she laughs, relating the story.
Visit StarryMag for the full interview!
Brenock O’Connor hasn’t had the easiest time since his character Olly helped kill Jon Snow last year in the season finale, but he’s handling it.
“If you get people from Spain and Portugal and all over the world saying they are going to kill your family, you just can’t take it to heart or you would not cope,” the young actor tells the Brighton Argus.
He shrugs off the threats though, saying, “It’s laughable how people think the show is realistic enough for them to send messages like this to someone who is not the character. I find it quite funny.”
That said, fans, let’s not make a habit of making threatening remarks to the cast on social media, even in a joking fashion.
Over at Variety, they’ve captured several of the GoT stars’ responses to Melisandre’s big reveal in the season premiere.
“I feel like it’s a very confusing moment for audience members, but it keeps you watching, and all does get revealed,” Maisie Williams says. “When I read it I was really confused, and then when I watched it I was like, ‘oh, I get it,’ and ‘holy s—, that’s Carice.’ It’s incredible that it’s full-body makeup.”
Tom Wlaschiha says that, “it’s actually a very moving and touching moment. The way Carice is playing that is amazing, because it’s just in her eyes. She looks in that blind mirror and you can totally see her façade coming off.”
Find out what Liam Cunningham, John Bradley, Isaac Hempstead Wright and Sophie Turner thought over at Variety!
TalkNerdyWithUs speaks with new cast member Joe Naufahu about how he learned he’d won the role of Khal Moro in season 6 and much more in a new interview.
Naufahu says that before he joined the show, he’d “often sit and imagine” himself roles on Game of Thrones, “annoying the hell out of the people watching it with me because I would constantly tell them how much I would love to get a role!”
He found out he’d won the part surrounded by family, as it happens.
I was on the road at the time and I had just finished a self-tape for something else where I had to use my 9-year-old girl as my reader and my 7-year-old son to hold the camera. I thought my agent was ringing to say wtf. (laughs). Anyway, they weren’t and I can remember getting off the phone and having a little cry with the cutest film crew ever and celebrating with them over a communal stack of pancakes that morning.
The actor does say that his khal will be different than Jason Momoa’s Khal Drogo. He says, “I just hope the fans see Moro in his own light and that I gave the Dothraki a new flavour that they will enjoy watching.”
Swing by TalkNerdyWithUs for Naufahu talking more on his background, his training and running his own gym!
I got a great Spartacus vibe from the Dothraki this episode; it probably helps that one of them was also a gladiator in that show, but the dialogue, though concerning brutal acts, was very funny and sort of endearing, in a way.
Valaquen,
I agree.
As if I could be even more excited for Sansa’s story! CANNOT WAITTTTTTT!
And, wait, Melisandre’s old lady self is full body make up??????? Wow.
People who hate actors just because of their character’s actions are complete idiots.
At least Brenock can see the funny side.
Deesensfan,
I think from the collarbone on up is all prosthetics, and they probably did do an “old suit” for Mel, but I read they did use an old woman body double as well.
Someone said it was CGI, like Cersei last year
That was full body make up for Carice ?
Bloody amazing work!!!!!
Wow
Loved Joe Naufahu as Moro so far. Great charisma and presence.
On Sansa and Brienne being a “package deal” in Season 6 as per Sophie Turner:
Just to be clear, the Mel crone was Carice’s head in full make up but digitally inserted onto a body double. It wasn’t “full body makeup” as Maisie said.
Also, upon re-watching the episode, one of my favorite moments is the hug between Sansa and Theon. One of the tenderest moments in the show’s history. I know he’s not technically a Stark,but I just realized this is the first time two people from that house have had a tender moment of compassion with each other since Robb and Catelyn.
Grr… The IGN interview contains a (I think) big spoiler! I assume it’s from leaked material or filming spoilers. …but I wasn’t expecting spoilers just from coverage of an interview. Guess I’ll be skipping anything from IGN in the future if they are this cavalier about this.
But for now maybe you could perhaps mark it?
The Dothraki was amazing last episode, can’t wait to see them in action!!!
I was a little hesitant about the new Dothraki going into the season, but I really enjoyed them in the first episode. I’ve never been too crazy about Emilia’s acting skills (not bad, not great), but I loved her subtle reactions in the premiere.
Yeah, it’s amazing what the make up artists can do on this show! They need more credit for their hard work!
Ohh, but still, they did a great job with making Mel look really old, props to them.
Lyanna_Targaryen,
Thank you for the clarification 🙂
queenofthrones,
In the trailers, you can see Bri and Pod with Tully banners clearly hung in the background. So, it was already put out there by HBO.
Connor,
I agree. It’s uncanny and I thought it was full body makeup too. But there have been several articles explaining that they used the same technique as in Cerise’s Walk.
I wonder where Brienne is taking Sansa, it’s clear that
So Brienne won´t be going to the Riverlands?
Theon won´t be going to Pyke?
Who exactly is in this group Sansa is building?
queenofthrones,
What interview ?
“which seems to imply that Sansa will
What the hell IGN???
People who send death threats at anyone at all are idiots. People who send them to actors for the actions of the characters they portray are beyond any level of stupidity that I could possibly describe with words.
As for Joe Naufahu, I was so pleasently surprised by his portrayal of Khal Moro! Honestly, I expected a watered down Khal Drogo, partly because that’s basically what looks like, but he’s quite different. Moro’s got a lighter, wittier personality than Drogo, yet at the same time he’s written as a hardline traditonalist of their culture. So, Naufahu has nothing to fear in terms of his hopes that we see Moro in his own light, a new flavour of Dothraki, because he accomplished it beautifully, and we’ve just seen him in a single scene as of yet.
To those of your crying spoiler, it was seen easily in at least one trailer.
Luka Nieto,
I’ve said it before that some people in this fandom have some real deep personal problems,they shouldn’t watch a show like this because they may be a menace to society .
I think Theon is definitely going to Pyke.
Lyanna_Targaryen,
HBO including a 0.2 second screenshot of Pod and Brienne with
in a trailer is not the same as them “putting that out”.
Certainly I watched the trailers about 3 times each but I’m not freeze framing it to get every single possible clue about what’s going to happen, because I don’t want to be spoiled. Which is what a lot of us want.
I’m really happy with the fact that I’ve managed to be mostly unspoiled – I spoiled myself too much last season and regretted it. It is frustrating to have the actors being so careful not to spoil in their interviews and then stupid website “journalists” spilling the beans.
Daughter of Winter,
MTE… maybe mark your spoiler though.
I really like the fact, that Sophie Turner is now credited individually in the title scene.
queenofthrones,
Wait wtf, how did they find out that Sansa will go with Brienne and Pod ??
Terri Schwartz is great, but the comment in the IGN interview about what Brienne and Sansa being a package deal means for Sansa’s future whereabouts is clearly an assumption on her part, and not something that’s likely to come to fruition. People shouldn’t take it at face value.
Rather, based on the preview for the next episode, it looks like Brienne tells Sansa that she encountered Arya. We also have a picture of Brienne from 6×05 that seems to show her still in the North. My guess is that Brienne will get Sansa somewhere relatively safe – be that Castle Black, Bear Island, or somewhere else – and then Sansa will send Brienne back south to see if she can find Arya.
How she ends up at Riverrun remains to be seen, but Brienne has no way of knowing that Arya has left Westeros. In light of that, it’s logical to assume that having already tried the Vale, she would now head to Riverrun, where the last remaining members of Sansa and Arya’s extended family reside. I doubt she’ll realize that she’s walking directly into a siege until she gets there … or that in doing so, she’ll meet Jaime again.
M,
queenofthrones,
Anything you can deduce from the trailers is fair game, as far as I see it.
F**K Olly! But don’t threaten his family. They’re already dead, that only brings up unpleasant memories for the lad…
Glad I’m not the only one who noticed that!! *Fist bump* Super freaking happy about that. ?
Wasn’t there a filming spoiler posted on this site awhile back about
queenofthrones,
I didn’t have to freeze frame anything to see the Tully banners. I’m sorry you read something that spoiled you.
I agree with the Theon, Sanza hug….it was a beautiful moment.
I don’t understand people…….SHOW…..REALITY…..the poor kid…He is after all a kid. How can someone be so sick as to threaten him and his family……Sick, Sick, Insane.
I really am excited for what we are in for…True we know locations and characters. How and what goes down will be exciting to see.
Sean C.,
When the trailer breakdown posts were put up, they were marked by Sue as potential spoiler territory. Thus, I did not click. If a posted interview/review/article contains references to this material it should be marked in the same way.
I still cannot understand how do you find out what picture is from what episode ?? can please someone tell me :O
Has anyone else noticed that Turner’s name was among the protagonists (I think) for the first time on this episode? If I am not mistaken, up to now she was among the ones cited in pairs (as Maisie Williams still is, for instance).
I am referring to the titles at the beginning which I am sure have a very precise name, but I have not a clue what it is (it is generique in french).
Inquisitor1961,
I guess they are extrapolating from the fact that Sophie says she and Brienne are going to be pretty much a package deal from now on?
Lyanna_Targaryen,
You don’t care about being spoiled, maybe you even like it. That’s your prerogative – but it also makes your opinion about whether something is a spoiler pretty much irrelevant.
Ok, so YOU have noticed!
Sou,
I found out how you find out from what episode photo is, so i dig out and look at this, spoilers:
[/spoiler] http://www.farfarawaysite.com/section/got/gallery6/gallery10/hires/1.jpg
So, this photo is from Seaso6/episode10/photo 1
What is Bran looking at ? :O
queenofthrones,
Let’s not argue ladies…
I should however agree that unsullied viewers kept as far as possible from breakdown trailers and a normal viewer would in no way manage to see those banners without the breakdown.
So in my view IGN should have paid a little more attention.
That having been said… it is not such a big deal.
Luka Nieto,
I did not expect the Dothraki to be funny. They did make an impression in the first episode. Not just Moro, his two wives were funny too. I have changed my mind about the Dothraki storyline..
Regarding Turner’s interview with IGN, one sentence seemed weird. She says
Death threats again? That poor kid.
I know Season 6 starts right after Mother’s Mercy, but it was hilarious to see Olly’s growth sprut!
The acting in the Dothraki scene was lacking. I think you can tell that the new actors aren’t as comfortable with the language as Emilia is.
I really missed Yara and I can’t wait to see her.
Sansa travel tinfoil
I want a meeting between Brienne and Melisandre lol. I actually wonder what Melly will do this season besides attempting a resurrection and taking a nap. Sex up Jonny??
I was just reading an article over at Cracked.com where people were outright threatening a father who lost his son at the Sandy Hook shootings. (They claimed he was making it up.)
Some people are just crazy.
Dislike the characters, sure. But leave the actors alone! They’re just playing a role!
Inquisitor1961,
I’m more intrigued by the fact that he found a horse so far Beyond the Wall. I think he’s going to meet that mysterious rider from the trailer.
I hate Olly, but I would never insult the actor who plays him, or his family. That is just pathetic and childish. Especially death threats, ridiculous.
Who I still think is Benjen! Here’s hoping….
Inquisitor1961,
The three eyed raven cave has been invaded by the WW so he escapes with Meera. Soon afterwards they are rescued in the middle of the night by a hooded rider who wields a flaming morning star.
Spoilers!
Episode 3: Tower of Joy… how i know, well check this out..
http://www.farfarawaysite.com/section/got/gallery6/gallery2/hires/1.jpg
Photo from GOT season 6 episode 2…
Other photos are Yara, Jamie and Tommen near Myrcella, Balon..etc
You can see them by simpli changing:
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To:
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For example:
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Season 6 episode 2 photo 2.. in any case
http://www.farfarawaysite.com/section/got/gallery6/gallery3/hires/1.jpg
Season 6 episode 3 photo 1 is Bran in enviorment that looks like TOJ… this is just IMO but i dont think i am very wrong either…
And pls someone tell me how to put that spoiler thing on…
Connor,
Yes!!
And his bloodriders as well.
Scenes like that make it so obvious D&D are fans of Monty Python. Rightly so, too.
Inquisitor1961,
[*spoiler*] write your comment here [*/*spoiler*]
Delete the *
Thank youuu
http://www.ew.com/article/2016/04/25/game-thrones-melisandre-premiere
Interview of EW. They used a body double for Mel … and prosthetics for the face and hair.
Pure Speculation: I doubt Sansa ever makes it to Castle Black. I think that’s where Ramsey will go next (doing serious damage to what is left of the Watch). At some point the Sansa/Brienne group and Davos will intersect either before or after going to Bear Island. Meanwhile not totally permanently dead Jon will join up with the Wildlings, leaving the Boltons to face a multi-front battle (and hopefully being slaughtered). Sansa and not totally permanently dead Jon probably won’t meet until Winterfell.
A thousand times this! We’re only one episode in and this is already one of my alltime favourite GoT moments. Seriously, I had to rewatch it ten times over. I very much like how the music underlines Sansa’s relief when she lays her head on Theon’s shoulder *sobs* I’m not an expert on the matter, but I like Ramin Djawadi’s work for the show very much.
As for the Dothraki. I’m very much looking forward to see more of Moro and I also loved how the Bloodriders seemed like actual individuals. Personal favourites: Staz Nair’s delivery of the language was insanely perfect and I also liked the acting of the left one of the two in the tent (Sorry, don’t know his name).
ghost of winterfell,
Yep. The last thing I expected was for the Dothraki to make me laugh. I like the injection of a bit of levity in what is otherwise a dark story. I especially appreciated it in such a surprising place. Sure, I expect some chuckles if Bronn is involved, or Tyrion and Varys, or characters like that, but not the Dothraki. It’s also one of the reasons I loved Davos’s “mutton” line.
Truth be told I’m actually really fascinated to see where this goes regarding Sansa and Brienne. I have a sneaking suspicion in the books at least that Sansa goes in a Donelle Lothston type direction (remember the Bat shield) and that she’s actually the younger Queen who gets Cersei. Reckon she goes to RL and Harrenhall next season. I do think she picks up the “Gravedigger” as a servant as well, and that there will be some twisted goings on in the Halls of Harrenhall which will be the tragedy of the Hound who had found peace as the GD, eg he is loyal as a Hound to a fault. All part of the tragedy of power and character pathways etc
I have the sneaking suspicion that Brienne is to Sansa what Ser Robert Strong is to Cersei. Though the issue and I suspect tragedy with Brienne is she is such a great person, but there is some cruel irony in the fact she has submitted Oathkeeper as a pledge of allegiance, but she will learn something of the difficulties faced by Jaimie
That’s all theoretical, for now it is quite great that we have Brienne pledging to Sansa, who assuming Rickon gets killed becomes Lady Stark, using a sword derived from Neds sword Ice. Hope that comes up. Sansa’s going to forge a rebellion
Which is quite great because Jaimie sent Brienne on that mission and there’s a possibility things converge quite well in the RL next season, or end of this one
So…they used an actual old ladies naked body for Mel…..?
Either way, it’s still amazing how they can make it look like it’s actually her body.
http://www.farfarawaysite.com/section/got/gallery6/gallery5/hires/1.jpg
http://www.farfarawaysite.com/section/got/gallery6/gallery4/hires/1.jpg
http://www.farfarawaysite.com/section/got/gallery6/gallery3/hires/1.jpg
On a more serious note, I would be pleasantly surprised if ToJ happens earlier than predicted.
I misspelled it sorry, Bran in Winterfell:
[spoiler] And photo of Bran in TOJ scene:
http://www.farfarawaysite.com/section/got/gallery6/gallery3/hires/1.jpg
What do you think boys and girls ?
Yeah I was surprised too at Khal Moro. Was quite funny though and a good idea. to also have a chuckle about Emilia’s rumoured nudity contract. Probably a nice way to get everyone to take the whole “back to season 1” thing overly seriously
If Roose is still alive at that point, I’m not so sure that he would allow this. If he wants to be taken seriously by the Northmen as Warden, he should probably respect the law. Not that the law of the land prevented him from murderimg his King, still, in his new position, he might propose something else than taking an army north.
Shipp,
I’ve been saying this for months. It’s obvious that’s not where Sansa is going – Ramsay is aiming for Castle black. Why would she go the place he’ll know to look for her?!
didn’t get any spartacus, but hwat are the greatest things in life is straight out of conan the barbarian. and the way they delivered it was what did the roamns ever do for us from monty pythons life of brian.
the result was hilarious
Nadia,
Except that is where they were going, as of the premiere. They would go there because it’s their best option (who else in the neighbourhood is in their corner?); that it’s “obvious” is unfortunate but unavoidable.
In the interview with Sophie Turner, she talks Sansa and revenge… partial Lady Stoneheart role?
Again: pure spec
I have my suspicion that it’ll be Ramsey who takes out Thorne and Olly. They kept thinking the only enemies were the ones from the Other side of the wall, but we all know there’s a monster at Winterfell. Ramsey may burn the whole place down (and Jon walks out of the flames…). Get hype.
No one notices my posts :'(
Shipp,
Thorne and Olly are going to be taken out by Davos’ crew and the Wildlings long before Ramsay gets anywhere near them. There’s no other probable resolution to that whole situation.
You could be right on the second photo! It does look like
Inquisitor1961,
AWW
I do!! but I don’t like spoilers so I skip spoiler posts.
But, after Roose’s lecture, Ramsey knows he has to recapture Sansa and Theon. If they see Bolton soldiers heading that way (or if they run into Davos etc heading south) they’ll know there’s no refuge to be found at Castle Black and thus detour.
Ghosts Afternoon Tea,
I’m glad you mentioned Oathkeeper. It took me a little while to get to that layer of the onion in that scene…I was too caught up in the moment, thinking how happy I was to see Sansa have someone pledge their allegiance to her, that person being Brienne, who is about as true of a character as one can get, thinking back to Brienne and Catelyn exchanging those words, and happiness for Brienne she finally feels as though she’s fulfilling her oath to Catelyn, I didn’t get to the point of…OMG, Brienne just swore her allegiance to Sansa Stark with part of Ice reforged.
I’m not a SanSan shipper, but I do think that their stories are somehow intertwined. Isn’t the Hound one of the few living persons left who know that LF betrayed Ned in the throne room?
I also had that idea that Sansa would go back south after helping to re-conquer Winterfell and taking up the Wardenship (Sorry Rickon:( ). I assume the impending thread from beyond the Wall will enter the Realm at the end of the season and lead to somewhat of an exodus or emigration of the whole north to seek refuge in the south. One huge structure that could hold quite a few people would be Harrenhal. The other thing I speculated was that she’d meet Daeny on the way who would be on her way north.
Sean C.,
I think that could easily change. That was just her and Theon talking when they were about to get caught. Brienne could easily tell her to head elsewhere because that’s the first place Ramsay would look. They could end up going somewhere else. Castle Black is a long long to go to avoid Ramsay’s guards and hounds, even with Brienne and Pod.
I just think it’s a red herring. i’d love to be wrong and have a Jon/Sansa reunion but I’m skeptical
it tells you how to put pspoilers on at the top of the page, there’s simply 2 extra spaces written in what’s at the top to stop it working, remove them it works
I just hope Sansa doesn’t go back to the Vale
Though I believe Brienne would heavily advise against that.
Inquisitor1961,
I’m not sure where those pictures are from…whether they’re images already released, or something that’s not supposed to be out there. I’ve read the books, and I’ve followed the filming info., but once the season starts, I don’t want any information that isn’t supposed to be out there, so I didn’t click on the links. It isn’t personal, it’s just me being careful. I’m really gun-shy after the leaks, last year.
For everyone cheering the reunion of Sansa and Brienne… yes… we had a brief moment of warm happies in the belly. Yummy. But…
Also… why/how will Sansa end up with house Mormont? I’d like to think she used those Bolton dinner conversations and gleaned which houses are still loyal to the Starks at some point… go Sansa?
Deesensfan,
Strictly my opinion, but D&D went through enough to get Sansa out of the Vale and up north, I don’t think they’d send her back there.
They have been officially released months ago, in February, I think.
Shipp,
They’d be far ahead of any Bolton soldiers.
Sansa and Brienne actually getting to Castle Black is a much cleaner and less convoluted explanation for what we know about the Northern plot than any of the alternatives I’ve seen, and more in keeping with the writers’ by now obvious preference for putting familiar characters in scenes together.
The Vale would, in many respects, actually be the safest place to go. She had loyal allies there with large armies. But it’s too distant, I would think.
This is how i know episode 3 is Tower of Joy:
Tower of Joy is episode 3 beacuse all you need to do is read the link got/gallery6/gallery3/hires/1.jpg (game of thrones season 6 episode 3 photo 1
and how i know this ?
i know it beacuse i typed
http://www.farfarawaysite.com/section/got/gallery3/gallery3/hires/1.jpg
and i got photos from season 3 episode 3 photos… the person that posts photos on that page surely knows what happens, so yea now we know much more <3 [/spoilers]
It’s certainly a possible resolution but not the only. I just give bigger odds to Thornes plans all going to hell. yeah some Wildlings may come to Davos’ aid but Ramsey himself told Sansa about Jon being Lord Commander. Ramsey is going to believe that’s where she’s gone. So Wildlings and Boltons converge on Castle Black and everything goes fubar. Davos escapes. Thorne fails utterly at command and the walls’ defense is substantially damaged (because I do believe that wall is going to come tumbling down by the end of the season).
Nymeria Warrior Queen,
I really REALLY hope you are right.
Imagine the backlash if she does? There was backlash that she went to Winterfell.
Even I would backlash, and I almost NEVER backlash.
Sorry for using backlash a lot 😛
You have to put [ spoiler ] in front of the text first you want to hide, you got the last part right though.
A Dothraki wedding without at least three pancakes is considered a dull affair.
Nymeria Warrior Queen,
Those are images that were publicly released by GOT but person that owns page knows what photo is from what episode
Inquisitor1961,
you need to cover your spoilers properly
Connor,
I am blonde… and i am dumb..
After game of thrones, I am boycotting the word spoiler.
You’re not dumb, you just missed one thing is all. You’re getting it though.
Connor,
I am blonde… and i am dumb..
Connor,
Ty <3
Inquisitor1961,
Youre not dumb, don’t say that:)
No problem!
Deesensfan,
I don’t know how you managed to stay Unsullied considering all the spoilers in the comments and the article headlines. It’s amazing!
Shipp,
The timing on that doesn’t really work. At the end of 601, we’ve already reached nightfall, and the expiration of Thorne’s ultimatum. Meaning that the presumed big action setpiece at the Wall should be at the start of 602. The Boltons haven’t even set out for Winterfell, and we see them debating that course of action in the promo.
Inquisitor1961,
Also, I see what you’re getting at with the photos, you could be right!
Flayed Potatoes,
Haha!
I have become an EXPERT at sensing a spoiler in a comment. And I know people that are good at covering their spoilers so I scroll down slowly.
I also skip some articles as of late. For example the article confirming two episode names… I felt like there would be too much spoiler discussion there.
This used to happen to soap opera stars all the time!
Yeah, having a young person walk like an old person is almost as tough as having an old person walk like a young one.
Yeah, I suspect that Thorne’s death might not come at Jon’s hands, but at the hands of the Boltons. As Ramsay notes in the commercial for this week’s episode, Castle Black is undefended from the south side. The question is, how would Thorne respond to Bolton forces arriving? Will he be sending Ravens asking for help in dealing with these Wildlings? If so, then he could mistake Bolton death-squads for Bolton reinforcements.
At any rate, I’ve had the sneaking suspicion that Ramsay is going to be a cause for the Walkers getting through the Wall ever since I read Dragons. Given that there will be less than two seasons after this year, I expect that the Walkers will get through at the end of this season, and that the Night Watch is going to get dealt its worst blows by sources it never expected.
Roose is the one stressing that they need Sansa back. And, let’s face it, it would not take too much effort to make it look like the Wildlings did it or something like that. Jon letting the Wildlings into Westeros is probably going to strike the Boltons’ as a decade of XMas gifts in one fell swoop. (However, I suspect that this gift will bite their collective ass in the end.)
Flayed Potatoes,
That does look like Longclaw .. i mean no other sword has a white pommel.
Good eye.
Deesensfan,
I’m boycotting the word “leak.”
I may allow other 4-letter words to pepper my vocabulary, but “leak” will not be one of them.
Yeah, and on that: I regret having criticized this show and others for being shy about nudity from more “mature” women. Still, another 20 years, and I’ll probably think that is attractive. Sigh.
Just saw this post, enjoyed reading the interviews! Still shaking my head about anyone making any kind of threat against an actor playing any character. Dear lord people get a life! I just hope that these same people don’t mix fantasy and reality so badly that they make an attempt. I wonder what security the actors have, esp since they often are out and about in very public places?
Looking back at the
Nymeria Warrior Queen,
the ones i looked at are publicity shots from various sources
Inquisitor1961,
https://twitter.com/luke_j_roberts/status/724298663988715521 more evidence for that
Inquisitor1961,
Thanks for clarifying. I’m still not sure if I want to know which picture is from which episode, though…lol.
I get kind of strange about what I do and don’t want to know, once the season is underway.
For instance, I’m cool with knowing certain things that will happen in the second episode…what we saw on the “next week on GoT…or whatever you wanna call it,” but don’t necessarily want to know more than that.
Like I said, I get a bit strange…
Or stranger than I already am. 🙂
Wtf, the spoiler coding isnt working for my last comment! I go to edit it and it says that the code is correct, like i put it.
There is no way Sansa is going south. Brienne will possibly take her to the Wall. If it is so it will be interesting because Brienne will learn all about the WWs, which will give an extra dimension to her oath to Sansa and the Starks. And if she stays at the Wall until the moment Jon is resurrected I think that this will give her another crucial perspective of the whole game when she meets Jaimie again. If Brienne is at RLs by ep7 then she could easily stay at CB until ep.5 by which time what is to be done will be done and everyone will start preparing for the wars to come…
WHAAAAT!? No way!!
Inquisitor1961,
I noticed them! Thanks for them. 🙂 I STILL think that is Sansa’s coat in the picture with Mel leaving Castle Black. No one else could be dressed that finely on the Wall.
Nymeria Warrior Queen,
Hahaha!
Leak is another goodie to boycott
Connor,
Yay! Except also BOOOO, because that means we probably won’t get Jon back until then.
Wimsey,
LOL!!!
Luke Roberts said on his twitter to someone to check
So how does Brienne tell Sansa about Arya being alive? Plus that Jamie sent her to find both of them in their mother’s honor. Awkward!
That will be ironic though…hey I tried to help you both and you both blew me off!
Maybe Sansa will send her on an Arya mission?
Sansa will be emboldened knowing that most of her family is actually still alive….ish.
It’s kind of half right now…
Unfortunately it’s not anything new RE – and not just in this fandom. Back in the 1980s the soap opera had a storyline where the character played by Joan Collins (who was playing a baddie) fired a gun to make the leading lady’s horse bolt (and the character was supposed to be pregnant and lost the baby). Joan Collins got threats then. I must admit that it puzzles me that folk don’t distinguish between fact and fiction sometimes – after all it’s not a matter of intelligence, just common sense.
Although when I was a (very young) kid I had a book where Rupert Bear (a British comic book character) met a flying horse and I was quite disappointed when my mother told me there weren’t any flying horses in real life.
Inquisitor1961,
People know who directed which episode numbers so from filming rumors, locations and pics they can surmise what was being filmed for which episodes and the general order of things.
Another 20 years, and you will not remember the use and purpose of it.
Sorry…?
Maybe i am not dumb for some sort, but for this spoiler thing i am really dumb LOL
Yeah guys and girls i saw that twitter post, so, was i right with the links ?? :DD <3 <3
Dame of Mercia,
Makes me think of:
Joey Tribbiani has a stalker
Connor,
Real wonder that Theon/Sansa didn´t die of hypothermia after crossing that river.
Ravyn,
I so agree – that look on her face said ‘Im home’.
Hoyti Von Totiy,
I suspect the group is the Northern lords
Connor,
Mods, is it possible to just put in a spoiler button like you do for block quote? Other forums I am on have it…..just wondering
Episode 3, doesn’t really seem that bad.
trarecar,
you can’t drag a cliffhanger ending out till halfway through the next series, people become displeased and stop watching in droves as the element of suspense turns first to irritation then simple disinterest
OT: New Honest Trailer – Game of Thrones for anyone thats interested!
Ignore post please, gonna test one last time this spoiler thing xD
On Khal Moro: liked Naufahu a lot. Looking forward to see more of the Dothraki. Good call not to try to have a Khal Drogo bis (that would have been a disaster…) but to write a whole different character, possibly a somehow funnier one.
Joe Naufahu (Khal Moro) is doing an AMA on /r/gameofthrones 23 hours from now (2PM PDT)!
…Am dying laughing at the ‘negative erection’ comments from confused youngsters on the web.
I’m looking forward to Brienne telling her all of that. In a very short time Sansa is going from believing her entire family (minus Jon) is dead to hearing her younger siblings are all still alive, or at least were from last reports. She’s going to feel responsible for them and most likely do whatever she can to find them. Arya would be near impossible to find in Braavos since the only ones who know who she is are at the HoBaW.
Connor,
It could possibly mean that he has filmed more scenes than the fight. Maybe a scene with him guarding outside the TOJ while Bran and BR are there and have a kind of dialogue (him not seeing them). It is the only thing I can think of. Note: The spoiler brackets do not work. I tried. It shows that I have put them, the text is grey but when I send it the text is visible.
Deesensfan,
ha ha right, I remember reading an interview by Colin Firth where the guy said that during/after Pride and Prejudice he had a couple of real nutcases following him around.
Wimsey,
Hee, hello, for me that time is now! Actually tho, its really not too bad. and tho its not what I’d prefer, I feel great with the bod I have. But, another 20 years for me? Ugh
Well, not long to find out now, it’s all really confusing to me. Luke said episode 3 and some think episode 5 or 6 is when it happens.
Inquisitor1961,
nvm
Ok so, judging what i seen is:
Spoilers ahead if i manage to mess thing up again, but i think i made it !
– Bran has vision of Winterfell and Hodor flashback.
-We see Yara, not the scene where she is kissing a girl but other one..
-Ramsay standing in middle of Winterfell, probably he flayed someone beacuse it looks like same scene where he flayed the grandma that told Sansa “The north remembers”
-We see Tommen and Jamie standing near Myrcella corpse, perhaps that is when he advices him
-We see Balon Greyjoy standing near fireplace looking at someone (Yara or Euron)
-Photo of Cersei, looks like scene where she says “Show them what Lannisters are”
-We see Missandei Grey Worm and Tyrion sitting and Tyrion is drinking, probably scene where he says “i drink and i know things”
-Ramsay and Roose staring at someone in the halls of Winterfell
Episode 3:
– First photo of Bran and Three Eyed Raven, possible near Tower of joy
– Second photo shows Sam and Gilly on a ship, probably scene we seen already in one of those talk shows..
Episode 4:
-Only one photo to see and that is Davos standing near the fence in Castle Black
Episode 5:
-Melisandre photo on a horse, probably riding out of Castle Black
-Photo of Brienne (looks like she entered somewhere where doors are broken) cant tell exactly
Episode 6:
– No photos, possible beacuse that is when Jon is revived or maybe Tower of joy second scene
Episode 7:
– No photos again..
Episode 8:
-Also no photos..
Episode 9:
-No photos..
Episode 10:
-Photo of Bran on a horse (where did he get one??) looking up at something..
And thats it..
That is my review xD
Sou,
ROTFLMAO!
Inquisitor1961
To further back up your claim, Luke Roberts, who plays one of the Targaryen Kingsguard
All covered up perfectly!
Ty i saw it <3
Jay Targ,
Alright, that was pretty funny,if a little too long
Inquisitor1961,
🙂 Yeah!
Also, i doubt Jon gets brought back in episode 6, too far in the season in my opinion.
Connor,
My thoughts too! Im pumped for the White Walker scenes, and the vision where the Night King sees Bran and grabs his wrist!!! Im very curious how the Night King can do that…
Connor,
Something tells me that wont be flashback 😛
Well, its in a vision, Bran wont ever walk again, but he can only walk in visions.
That’s what I’m saying. He’d be smart about it and not be in-your-face-Ramsay-like and have his whole army ride north to attack the Night’s Watch just like that. Unless he gets word that a treacherous Jon Snow let all the Wildlings into the Gift which could very well justify an attack… (maybe also in the eyes of other Houses like Umbers or Karstark)
I have a feeling it will be much later in the season that Jon comes back, and we wont see him in action this season. though I think its silly
just basing this on kits interviews.
Connor,
Oh true.. i forgot.. Whoops
Jaime’s letter to Doran
http://www.makinggameofthrones.com/production-diary/objects-from-dorne
Jay Targ,
Love it!
We shall see….
is it established that the children of the forest can’t repair people with their magic?
Connor,
I hope I am wrong
I would be so annoyed
and I don’t get annoyed much with the show. lol
I am definitely not one who thinks Jon is NOT coming back at all, but I have to tell you, I think we will not see him until Ep. 9 at the earliest… I think the expression on Tormunds face when he rides in on the horse is the sign that “hey, he was dead until just now”
egg,
And he is on a horse… like wtf who gave him one ?
Guess we will find out soon enough.
I would be upset if he isn’t back until episode 3 at the latest.
Connor,
In 30-45 days xD
I fucking cannot wait anymore, like i am struggling really hard on what to do to make my time pass faster
Inquisitor1961,
maybe the children of the forest can also repair horses taken off destroyed white walkers, theoretically they have the full power of the old gods behind them which is an as yet not properly defined quantity.
there can’t be too many other sources of horses beyond the wall now most of the free folk are the nights kings blue eyed boys
Connor,
We will see
Also
plop_plop,
NINE????????
NOOOOOOOOOO
Hype will be gone by then, to be honest
If this is true…
The IGN interview w Soohie is the most informative. It sounds like she will go to river run rather than the wall? And that revenge for the red wedding is definitely on the horizon!!!!
queenofthrones,
This is from the promotional pictures. There were leaks earlier, but do we need to make speculation from promos into spoilers we can’t discuss?
Connor,
That is possible :3
Demon Monkey,
Check my post.. i explained what photo is what episode…
Deesensfan,
It’s just speculation, I wouldn’t really worry to much about it.
Inquisitor1961,
People know who directed which episode numbers so from filming rumors, locations and pics they can surmise what was being filmed for which episodes and the general order of things.
Flayed Potatoes,
queenofthrones,
Haha it was in the trailer if you watched/paid attention to it.
But if you skipped it, my condolences 🙁
Was a very good trailer….
Flayed Potatoes,
Moisturize, botox, tummy tuck, facelift, body lift, hair dye, purchase spanx. Or just drink the damn potion. Wish I could just drink a damn potion.
Matthew The Dragon Knight,
well I don’t think any of you know which episode he would come back… so episode 9 is a possibility.
Jane Taylor,
So you are saying, that those photos arent in correct order ?
Beacuse i think you are really wrong, beacuse every photo is 100% accurate, episode 1 all photos from episode 1, also from season 1 to season 5 every photo matches correct episode…
Oh give it a rest, Sophie.
Sansa shows no real sign of having insight into politics, despite being it’s victim many times. She does have pieces to the puzzle, for example, Lysa practically confessed her crimes to Sansa as she held her at the moon door. Does Sansa realize what she heard? I see no sign of it.
Will someone have to come along and put the pieces together for Sansa? All I saw in the snowy woods is Sansa cowering under a tree while Pod, Brienne and Theon fought like hell for their lives….and hers. Sansa didn’t peep out once, not even to throw a rock or something, for goodness sake.
sounds more like she is taking on Manderly’s (frey pie) role – he sent Davos to find Rickon and is organizing the opposition to the Boltons and revenge for all they betrayed in the Red Wedding.
queenofthrones,
I agree with her and I don’t like spoilers. If you are afraid of info from a promo I really think you should abstain from the forums that the sullied use. Maybe we need a definition of spoiler? If sue says that info from gleaned from a promo is something FWR have to use spoiler codes to discuss (which I highly doubt she will), then I will do so. However, I think most of the comments would be covered. This is silly. If it isn’t a leak or book knowledge than it isn’t a real spoiler. There are degrees of spoilers, but if you are looking to remain pure this simply isn’t the place for you. How are we supposed to differentiate between what another person was able to see in the promo and therefore cover it. You are being silly. Chill.
Off topic I know, but I just realized that I had “Home” on my list for episode title #3 as opposed to episode #2. I guess they’re moving the story along faster than I thought.
So close, but, yet so far.
I doubt it.
Hey did you guys see this??
https://twitter.com/luke_j_roberts/status/724298663988715521
Connor,
Demon Monkey,
most of the time i grey stuff out, it’s because i’ve got a memory like a sieve and i’m speculating on stuff i can’t remember where i got the inspiration for, and i simply don’t want to hack anyone off by mentioning something somewhere i shouldn’t.
i try to find all the info i can as i like to try to work out where things might be going at the end
Shipp,
But what about the speculation that Sansa and Davos meet up? Maybe they don’t then. There is no hard evidence for it.
The thing I like the most about this show is how unexpected it is. You think that you can figure things out from promos, but at least half of the time you are wrong. It is especially fun now because we r going off book. This is the first season where we don’t know the big twists. It feels different.
It is sooooooo known. By those of us who invest in tin foil, that is. 😉
Inquisitor1961,
Don’t cry. There are a lot of posts to read.
Edith,
Holy shit awesome
Nymeria Warrior Queen,
I didn’t get this until you repeated it! So awesome! Where is the other sword anyway? It makes no sense for them to bury something so valuable w Joff.
Another thought on spoilers: there really are a whole new levels this season. It used to just be book and non book readers. I’m cool w promo stuff, but not things that are leaked ahead of when HBO planned. I think we all will need to learn how to navigate this new landscape individually. Because it seems there are pictures here that are not supposed to be out yet. I appreciate that they are covered at least.
Direwolf Lvr,
I don’t think you need to cover that XD
So far from what?
Nymeria Warrior Queen,
Hope we see widow’s wail in the show again, along with other valyrian steel swords.
queenofthrones,
So they should manage secondary references too? What the hell?
Melly needs to give us mere mortals some tips.
Demon Monkey,
I am not crying, come find me after episodes 3 onwards, you will see i was right 😉
Demon Monkey,
yeah I watched the trailers. But I didn’t analyze them to death. It seems like common sense to me that info about where characters will be in future episodes is spoilery. Generally I think people agree this is the case given the use of spoiler coding here.
And I do avoid reading comments and threads which are marked as potential spoiler territory, this one wasn’t. Only exception is sues recap thread post episode – I want to be part of the conversations and don’t want to wait for the unsullied/unspoiled thread. If I got spoiled there I wouldn’t hold i against anyone.
But I’ve not actually been spoiled by comments – I’m complaining about the IGN article. Most journalists understand that you’re not supposed to spoil the plot for your readers as part of regular coverage.
I hope
No “hard” evidence, per se, but the weight of circumstantial evidence, down to them seemingly being in the same place in the trailers, is in favour of it. There’s also the obvious practical filming issue:
Is it tomorrow we get more promo pics from “Home”??
Anon,
What do you expect Sansa – a girl who is untrained in any kind of physical violence – to do against trained soldiers with swords and dogs to do, especially when she’s just escaped her abusive, rapist husband and swum through a freezing river in thick woolen clothing?
If anything, I’m amazed that either her or Theon could even stand up. I suppose Theon went through the shit for so long that when he snapped out of it, it had to be a massive snap, like an earthquake.
When Dany starts listing her titles, Emilia always gets this look like something stinks. Her repulsion face has become more endearing but the faces she was making at the Doth camp made me laugh. But even with that, I loved the introduction of the new Dothraki. Joe Naufahu was made for this show.
Clob,
That’s very interesting. I do think that Sansa will be the one to reunite the Stark survivors – if a reunion is even possible. She’s been given the pieces of the puzzle. She knows that Bran and Rikon are not dead, at least. She will find out from Brienne that Arya was seen alive.
Varys has mentioned being an actor with a troupe, and I have no doubt he still has spies in that community. This might be a way the sisters are united…somehow through Varys.
Shipp,
We saw Mel hanging out at CB. So
IceKhione,
That explains a lot! Thanks for sharing!
Did you guys notice Harald Karstark in the promo for episode two? He wears his father’s clothing style, and it’s definitely the actor cast as Harald.
Luka Nieto,
Was that karstark in the episode 2 preview, I thought it might have been him but wasn’t sure.
Lyannaes,
I expect her to fight for her life, that is, if she thinks it’s worth saving. Throw a rock. Throw some snow. Throw some dried shit. Do something.
Theon was horribly injured from flaying. He was cold and he was tired. But, he picked up a sword, and though he couldn’t swing it, he stuck someone with the pointy end.
Demon Monkey,
My guess/hope is
Matthew The Dragon Knight,
Me, too! At one point, I was going to start a thread over in the forums with remaining known Valyrian steel swords and their locations, but I never got around to it. What ever happened to the Valyrian steel dagger with which the assassin tried to kill Bran? Did it end up back in Littlefinger’s possession?
The TOJ is in the third episode. So I think when the TOJ ends, we all see Jon burning. At the beginning of ep 4 we start at Castle Black.
Now we come to the promo pictures. Davos and Mel. They are looking at Jon, standing up with a burning sword. Sansa will be gone by then, Jon wants to stay but gets a letter from Ramsey.
Speculation ofcourse
If episode 3 is Oathbreaker
Anon,
How would any of these things achieved anything except piss off the hounds or get in the way of the actual fights, of which Brienne (and Pod/Theon) were winning? Surely if you can’t physically fight, it’s better to run, hide, or stay in the background when it comes to fisties. That’s how you save your life if you can’t wield a sword.
Don’t bring a knife to a gun fight.
Very easy to determine ToJ episode, check to see who was the director at the location and correlate it with which two episodes they signed to direct.
Nymeria Warrior Queen,
I believe the dagger is in little fingers possession, also Dark sister might be with Blood raven. I hope Dark sister is with Blood raven. We might see the Tarly valyrian steel blade this year, and I think it’s still possible to come up with a believable location for Black fyre.
tyjon,
The show can and has moved stuff around, even if we knew the director for certain.
Luka Nieto,
Yeah, you’re right, that is him. A bit earlier than I thought we’d see him. Maybe he’s there for Ramsay to bounce ideas off of prior to his presumed killing of Roose?
Anon,
Then you have misguided expectations for her character. I guess breaking out of her room, jumping off a castle, and risking freezing to death to get away isn’t enough to prove to you that she values her life. No Lady Stark must also pick up nonexistent rocks in the snow and throw them. That would prove to you that she will play the gam, huh.
Hopefully the wildlings take over castle black next episode XD
Is it Sunday yet?
after only the gods know how many years of being a lurker, i am finally taking the plunge and posting. please be gentle as i am ‘un-besmirched’ on this site.
my least favorite character on the show, other than SS, is LF. like Varys, i do have a lot of respect for him, though. i believe he is the most dangerous character in the show south of the wall. i am very anxious to see his story line now. i believe thing are about to get interesting for him and not necessarily the way he would want.
1. he spirited Sansa away from KL
2. he was, in part, responsible for Joffrey’s murder.
3. he escorted Sansa all the way to Winterfell and gave her to the Boltons like a piece of furniture.
4. Brienne and Pod saw them together at the inn
5. now Brienne and Sansa are comparing notes. surely Sansa will inform Brienne of how she escaped KL, wound up at Winterfell, and possible the true accounting of Lysa’s death.
now assuming,
(gee, i hope i did that spoiler thing right)
wouldn’t she tell him this information?
what do you think LF’s chances of survival are after Jaime AND Cersei find out?
maybe i am over thinking this. but it presents for some interesting possibilities of revenge Lannister Style.
oh, and the dogs left the fight scene because they were late for a dinner date with Myranda and had to hurry back home.
Lyannaes,
She had no idea if they were winning the fight for her life.
Kamali,
Sansa is a profile in cowardice.
🙂
Matthew The Dragon Knight,
Yep, it is.
http://s31.postimg.org/6uc3x6ekb/karstarkpostimg.png
Greenjones,
Nice catch XD
He’s in 3 episodes this season, hope to see him in the battle.
Matthew The Dragon Knight,
I already miss Tormund HAR HAR
Tycho Nestoris,
And wun wun.
Hopefully they kill plenty of traitors, or the majority of the nights watch XD
Anon,
She could certainly hear the soldiers dropping in numbers, and she could hear Brienne and Pod fighting. And besides, if – by some miracle – Brienne and Pod were both struck down, and her and Theon were recaptured, do you think throwing snow would help either of them? The soldiers might not hurt her for it, but they would probably hurt Theon, and Ramsey would ‘punish’ them both.
I don’t understand why you’re so determined to go @ Sansa when she actually chose the right course of action?
The promo picture of Davos standing with what appears to be smoke – that seems to ONLY be possible if his loyalist group “wins.” Ie, they can’t leave the room right now. The only way he’s standing around outside in Castle Black is if the loyalists/Wildlings come and win.
I think the smoke is the bodies burning after that confrontation.
That picture looks to be episode 4. And episode 5 Mel is leaving Castle Black. That makes it extremely likely that Jon’s resurrection is episode 3, and 4 is dealing with the aftermath, etc, before people ride out.
Matthew The Dragon Knight,
forgot about ol wun wun. hopefully, Edd will have the courage to speak to him this time
Nadia,
I wouldn’t mind that happening, I was wondering what Davos was looking at in that promo pic. So that picture of Davos looking at smoke is episode 4 ?
Lyannaes,
mayhaps a troll?
Also that picture of mel riding out, it looks like sansa is with them.
You see something that looks like what’s wearing in the promo pic.
I thought it was him, so last night I went back and found the March 1st post where Sue confirmed who’d be playing Harald Karastark. And sure enough the guy in the preview is Paul Rattray. The hairline, beard, hair coloring all match and the guy in the episode 2 promo is wearing the same clothes as the guy who’s riding behind Ramsay in the HBO year-end promo.
I can’t wait to meet him…I’m sure I’ll hate him.
Tycho Nestoris,
Haha
Really looking forward to it.
I wonder if they’ll always show Bran in his vision state before showing an actual vision, or will they try to trick us one time by showing the vision beforehand so we think it’s currently happening.
Jack Bauer 24,
In the past his “dreams” were shown before an establishing shot so I would hope the same is true for visions. It is a neat trick. I wish there were more scenes where the POV or setting wasn’t immediately obvious (like Cersei in the woods as a child).
Jack Bauer 24,
Showing the vision first would be nice, maybe of young ned stark or some other vision, the introduction the max von sydow and the return of bran should be nice.
Tycho Nestoris,
Probably lol. I just always get sucked in!!! I can never resist the confrontation lmao
BunBunStark,
The casting call for Harold karstark got me pumped for season 6, really looking forward to seeing the new karstark in action next episode.
Lyannaes,
I too enjoy a little sparring, prob the same reason I watch GoT lol
So is Bronn back in KL?
Lyannaes,
sansa was portrayed perfectly as a study in cowardice, she borrowed strength from theon, in escaping from the castle, she borrowed strength from theon in crossing the river.
when it looked like they were about to be captured and was found, she remained hiding under a tree root and snivelled,
someone who cannot fight yet had a little courage would have still tried to escape from the melee to a place where they could conceal themself away from the sight of their enemy.
someone who can’t fight yet is very brave would do anything at all to try to help their friends, distract the enemy, get behind them cause uncertainty in the attacker so that their ally can kill them, throw something in their eyes a fraction of a second of blocked blurred vision can mean the difference between life and death, grab a dropped sword throw it between their legs from behind. it may cut or trip the enemy.
to sit and wait to be captured while snivelling is a coward who has no hope left and has given in frozen with fear.
arya is brave.
thus far sansa has been nothing but a frightened little girl. hopefully that will change by the end of this season because if not then she needs her own funeral pyre sharpish.
maybe mel could build her one at least then she will have a use
That stuff is from the trailer? Brianne and Pod are standing in front of a Tully banner, and the Tullys are in Riverrun, it really isn’t a spoiler anymore if it’s in the trailer…
Jaynee D.,
Welcome to the Wall!!! 🙂
I can’t really speculate, at least not with any specificity, how LF will get his comeuppance, especially since he’s such a slimy little creature. The only thing of which I’m fairly certain is, this season he will start to see his plans fall apart. In truth, I’m not even fairly certain about that (although I want it very much), given his aforementioned sliminess, but I don’t know where he has left to turn. It’s possible the Vale will stick behind him, I suppose.
If Sansa and Brienne are a package deal why the hell would she end up in the Riverlands?
Maybe Sansa sends her there to look for Arya? It looks like Sansa and Brianne are already discussing where Arya might be from the HBO preview for episode 2…
Inquisitor1961,
I was looking at these pics yesterday, and I think there’s an answer to the question of where Brienne and Sansa are headed mid season. I’ll direct you to this pic:
Pretty sure this shows Brienne at Castle Black. Note the broken door behind her. It’s the door to the room in which Davos and co. were hiding w Jon’s body. We see it being bashed in by the NW in the previews for ep 2.
Green Chili,
Thanks for the link! Great to be able to see them all in the one place.
iridium,
So you take issue at being spoiled and then reveal that very “spoiler” here to the rest of us? Seems a little hypocritical. Although as others have said its not a spoiler. This site has been full of trailer dissections for weeks now so, with respect, I’m amazed you’re even here if you try to avoid being spoiled.
Green Chili,
Thanks for this, it’s will be helpful.
Episode 2 looks really eventful!!!
Joe Naufahu has nothing to worry about. He’s already made an impression as Khal Moro, together with his wives and bloodriders. Very distinct from Drogo and his bloodriders. I just hope he survives all the fire and blood that’s surely coming this season. 🙂
Tycho Nestoris,
Definitely a troll.
iridium,
About the Brienne pic:
The episode 2 promo seems show it happening.
I think
“A legendary swordsman and a paragon of knighthood. He carries a hugely famous sword on his back. We are looking for the best swordsman in Europe to play this part.
Please note that this character is a fighting legend and we will need a hugely impressive display of swordplay in very spectacular fight scenes.”
Kit at his play
https://www.instagram.com/p/BErfoDWy_F4/
the other two swordsmen looked pretty impressive in the trailer.
Some other watcher think it’s just the two kingsgaurd, and the cut Dawn from the show.
Jack Bauer 24,
The play looks very interesting, Good Luck Kit!!!
Connor,
That would make for one hell of an episode, if all those events are happening in episode 2.
Sean C.,
BunBunStark,
Well, poop. I thought I was on to something there!
However I have a notoriously bad sense of direction/visual memory so if the angles etc don’t look right I’m going to trust your opinions more than my own. Seriously, sometimes it’s a miracle I can find my way to work (and some days I don’t…)
I know eh? I hope this episode blows people away, so they can stop asking “where did the dogs goo?!?!” its all I see on social media, since when are dogs vanishing from a fight such a big deal? Nothing to do with the plot lol.
Just give me Euron Sunday night please!
Probably, he might be in the next episode for a scene or two, who knows.
Jared summed it up best…
“Since we’re addressing things that certain people considered to be “plot holes” (even if they actually weren’t), I’d like to leave this here.
https://www.reddit.com/r/asoiaf/comments/4gbren/solving_the_mystery_of_the_missing_dogs_s6e1/
Apparently some industrious soul did the work and discovered that there are six Bolton hunters who are chasing Sansa and Theon – four mounted, and two on foot with the dogs. But Brienne, Pod, and Theon only kill five of them – the four who were on horseback, and one of the footmen. What happened to the second footman? Once it became clear that his side was going to lose, he ran back to Winterfell … with the dogs (some argue that we may even be him in the preview for the next episode with Roose and Ramsay).
We’ll have to wait until the next episode to see if that last part’s true, but it’s good enough for me (I’d already assumed the dogs ran off, but hadn’t realized that one of the men escaped as well). It goes to show that people need to have a little more patience and faith before running to the Internet screaming “PLOT HOLE! I FOUND A PLOT HOLE!” It will never happen, but I can hope.”
Thanks! Never got to see his comment. Makes sense to me
Connor,
I’m preparing myself for the worst
I hate being disappointed 🙁
Off topic: HBO are seemingly in talks to return to Gerona for S7!
If we assume Mereen/Braavos storyline is over by end of season, can we assume that KL won’t have been burned?
http://www.elpuntavui.cat/cultura/article/-/958897-o-si.html?cca=1
Queenofthrones,
I agree
Deesensfan,
Me too, just don’t worry about it too much. That’s what Im doing, trying not to worry.
Jon better come back in episode 3, PLLLEEEAAASSEEEE.
Maybe he was simply killed off camera by Brienne/Pod/Theon. It happens… It happened to Stannis.
If you want continuity issues then check out the opening shot of Winterfell (Ramsay scene), without any snow (that Sansa/Theon jumped into a few hours earlier). Burning Shireen sure did the trick it seems, that was one fast thaw!
Connor,
if not 3, 4 or 5 sounds about right :p
Anon,
Womp
Tycho Nestoris,
I can’t wait
Matthew The Dragon knight,
I have no idea what you’re talking about (doing wanna know) but youre hyping the hype out of me!!!!!!!!!!!
Connor,
Let jon get *some* sleep. He had to carry the show last season.
http://i.imgur.com/pQEdXwK.jpg
😀
Matthew The Dragon knight,
No 3. Please. I’m going to be in China for work during epoisode 4&5 and have no idea how I will watch. I’m gonna be off the grid for two weeks unless I manage a way to watch. 🙁 I think. I need my Jon question answered by episode three. Is that too much to ask?
I’m HYPE just thinking about all the stuff to come still this season from the trailers! Euron! Bran! TOJ! Night King and WW! Biggest horse battle ever seen on screen according to Beinoff! Dragons!
9 MORE EPISODES OF THRONES GOODNESS!
Deesensfan,
Deesensfan,
Haha your hype is contagious. Breathe in Breathe out.
Connor,
Some people can now sleep better
Tycho Nestoris,
Hahaha
I can’t!!!
Deesensfan,
if what I know is going to happen in episode 2, prepared to get hyped.
Deesensfan,
nope, not to much to ask, i’m hoping jon comes back in episode 3 as well XD
Apollo,
Thank u for this. I wish ppl would not rush to judge the show like that. They are not sloppy writers.
Matthew The Dragon knight,
Yes!!!!!
heh, it would also be nice if people learned the difference between narrative details and plots! Continuity errors are not plot-holes: but, then, you will never convince Doctor Who fans of that…..
Inquisitor1961,
Stark banners flying above Winterfell or the heart tree at Winterfell.
Given that we’ve seen dragon wings over Kings Landing, and given that we do not expect Daeny to make it back to KL this season, there is no reason to expect Kings Landing to be entirely burned before next season. Of course, I’ve never seen any reason why it would all be burned: perhaps part of it will be, but not all of it.
Inquisitor1961,
It could be anything, anywhen. There probably are limits to when and where Bran can see, but they are pretty broad!
It is possible that they will decide that this is where Ramsay expects them to go, and strike out somewhere else because of that. Sansa knows that her younger brothers are alive, and her winding up with the Mormants might be because of it. Moreover, we probably are going to have some Deus ex Herbaria hung on the Wall next week: that could wind up being an important gunshot.
Flayed Potatoes,
I’m also interested in Brienne meeting Davos at the Wall.
Davos: We’ve met…during the parley with Stannis and Renly. They say you killed Renly.
Brienne: No, Renly was killed by a shadow with the face of Stannis. I killed Stannis.
Davos: His little girl was innocent!
Brienne: I didn’t kill his little girl. Stannis was alone & severely wounded.
Davos: ….
Lyannaes,
What hounds? What happened to the hounds once the fighting started? They just seemed to disappear.
Shipp,
I think Sansa goes to the Wall.
Can you imagine Jon’s smile when he finds out she’s still alive?
Deesensfan,
Imagine that!!!!! I thought it was a really old lady they had cast for that particular moment! :0
Deesensfan,
OMG, so am I. I want her to get revenge for the Starks. If she and Jon get to meet (please please please), there will be tears in my house! The hype is STRONG.
iridium,
That would be amazing. I will be crying for sure
TNT Starkarian,
I just did a rewatch and only saw 5 of the six men go down
He may have ran back to the hounds – Ramsay has to find out from someone that Sansa was rescued
ghost of winterfell,
Agreed…it´s great to have such a ¨serious¨story line with an unusual hint of humor 🙂
sending a raven
Deesensfan,
It’s possible, although not very likely.
Theon tells Sansa he knows what these hounds are capable of. They will devour a person (I’m paraphrasing) and as soon as the fighting starts, the person in charge of these deadly hounds goes running back to Ramsey? Yeah, that’s probably smart. I’m sure Ramsey will appreciate the update and the safety of the hounds.
I am so interested, like everyone else, I’d guess, to see how the information we received at the end of the episode, that Melisandre’s youthful and beautiful appearance is due to a glamour, is going to come into play.
TNT Starkarian,
Good point
But I think that’s what happened
And I don’t see it as a bad move by the soldier
Maybe the hounds were loose and they ran away
TNT Starkarian,
He said that before he saw the hounds, though. Those hounds did not appear to be the same we saw both when Tansy was being chased (I think it was Tansy), and Yara went to try and rescue Theon from the Dreadfort. The dogs Sunday night appeared to just be bloodhounds. If the handlers of them were killed, I’d guess the dogs would run off.
Wimsey,
There’s only 50 Black Brothers left. After E2, there will be 10 left. I think the Wall will be completely or nearly abandoned which will lead to a breach.
While I don’t know what u mean by deus ex hebraria, if the wildlings wipe out what is left of the NW I can definitely see Ramsay using that to rally the North.
The only issue is we know he’s not going there. The battle will come to him at Winterfell. So he sends the letter or a message and Jon comes to him. I’m not sure where Sansa is thru all of this but I’m sure it will be awesome sauce!
Rygritte,
I have been so focused on Jon and Sansa possibly meeting, I never considered the possibility that he would find out that Arya is alive too. Can’t wait to see his reaction, if this does happen!
Same here! I sometimes imagine what that would be like. Sansa and Jon never interacted with each other at all during the whole series. I wonder what that will be like once they reunite, maybe Sansa didn’t like Jon as much and that’s why they didn’t really talk or say goodbye to each other in Season 1. And the fact if this happens she will for sure tell Jon that Arya is alive, because she knows that they are close.
Anon,
I absolutely loved Sansa being Sansa in that moment. It was funny and believable. She was frozen physically and mentally. And Theon was all like little darling, I feel that ice is slowly melting.
I doubt that it’s just appearance: her pendant must make her genuinely youthful. She does not just look young: she moves, speaks, etc., young. It seems to be more of a “Dorian Gray” shapeshifting.
But my guess is that it’s just character development. We were shown just how old and world-weary Melisandre really is. Yes, she’s physically young still: but she’s been around a long, long time: and even if her pendant gives her youthful health and vigor, it cannot take away how long she’s been at it. And it now looks to her like she’s back to square one. Think about what it’s like when you work on something for months and it all falls apart, leaving you to start all over. Now, magnify that 100X: and that’s what she’s going through. Now she has to both figuratively and literally regain her youthful bounce: and that would probably require finding a new messiah. Hopefully someone left one lying around….
Er, would Deus ex Arboretum be better?
😀
Mag,
Sorry I missed that casting call I would have been a perfect body double despite the fact I’m a 35 y/o man…
Connor,
This is true in the books, Jon and Sansa are not close. But since the show has not really given any indication about their relationship so far, they do not necessarily have to stick to this. But in the end, I guess it does not matter how close they were in the past. They both have lost so much in these years, gone through so much, it will be a huge emotional moment for them to meet a member of their family for the first time. If and when this does happen of course.
I am hoping it does, it would seriously make me very happy.
Wimsey,
I really hope you are right and it is character development. Strike that, I have to agree w you because I can’t see how D&D incorporate glamor into the JS storyline and then look back on it with pride. Those theories that she will glamor Davis to look like him or glamor his corpse to carry it to the Riverlands are laughable.
I also tend to agree with the idea that it’s more than appearance. It actually makes her youthful. Which is hella cool. Not only does it help us understand her experience of disappointment and loss but it suggests that she is wise and has more experience than we had expected. She’s probably a big deal in the faith. Not all the red priests and priestesses have such necklaces.
And it suggests that she may have more power than we are aware of. Maybe. We shall see anyway.
Deesensfan,
Hey I got HBO GO to stream perfectly on an airplane for the premier. If you have HBO I’d get that shit set up on your phone or whatever device, then when you go to china and find any connection you should be able to watch. Download rate I was working with couldn’t have been much better than 50kb/s. Wasn’t the best quality picture ever but it did the job.
Greenjones,
Wow,you guys miss nothing…I thought he was the 6th Bolton man that ran away with the dogs and was explaining to Roose why Sansa and Reek had escaped 🙂
Connor,
I think we will see
A badass battle of two double-handed broadswords. No idea how it ends but someone has to lose.
Her reunion with “Theon” was how I pictured her reunion with Jon, collapsing in his arms. However, if she finds him dead and then undead, she may be a bit standoffish which would make me throw my tv across the room. Now I’m doubting any family reunion will top her being held by Theon.
ghost of winterfell,
He will probably tear up when she tells him she still has Needle. I know I will.
Watchers of no Trailers,
I don’t believe Ned had Ice at the tower of joy
but I’m not sure really XD
Connor,
We do need the three…Ser Gerold Hightower, Ser Oswell Whent and Ser Arthur Dayne! 🙂
Apollo, I think we can assume
Connor,
Sullied by Knight,
I am just stating what I saw from the leaked fan video of the TOJ fight:
Tyrion Pimpslap,
Didn’t we see the Luke Roberts character in a very recent promo pic drawing two swords?
Inquisitor1961,
You can see Davos’ horse in that shot of her leaving which makes me think they all go to
Davos & Sansa -> Bear Island
Jon, Mel, & Tormund -> Winterfell or Last Heart
Brienne & Pod -> Riverlands
We know a Northern Lord turns his cloak. We all thought it would be Umber turning on Bolton, but it could be Umber turning on Jon.
http://www.cheatsheet.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/Screen-Shot-2016-04-11-at-11.03.11-AM-e1460398264641.png
http://az801229.vo.msecnd.net/wetpaint/2016/02/game-of-thrones-season-6-melisandre-750×522-1456178589.jpeg
Rygritte,
good catch, I didn’t notice Davos Horse at all.
Rygritte,
The plot thickens!! This makes me more convinced they get to CB!!
Although I’d guess that the whole old lady was used in the shoot. Don’t want to be wasting any old lady parts.
Rygritte,
Id like your theory to be true and they all go tohether but chances are the production has a limited number of horses they use so Davos horse is not strictly his own but random Stark soldiers horse, Boltons ….
The fact noone seems to be riding that horse behind Mel only confirms my second toughts, but ill keep hoping you are right.
Im sure Jon will leave “10 good men” at the Wall who will die honorbly when NK strikes.
Now if he only had “20 good men” to leave behind the Wall would be fine 😉
Green Chili,
I just hate ppl that have proof in front of them and are still not believing 😛
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__jv1H3HdM4
damn right! Waste no lady parts, no matter what age.
Eddie Eyre confirmed on twitter he was in both trailers..
“We’ve long suspected that actor Eddie Eyre will be portraying Dayne, and since this fun video popped up this morning, we thought Mr. Eyre’s tweet today was quite telling.” ( notice this tweet is posted right when tower of joy leaked video got removed, the one if you remember where that guy was cheering for ned: “get him beanny, slayed him”)
“Tweet: Eddie Eyre @EddieEyre
Always feel like a kid when I get to play with swords. Even though my parents never let me play with real ones. That would be IRRESPONSIBLE!
6:45 AM – 30 Sep 2015”
any case, here is the status from Eddie day before yesterday:
“The #GameofThrones trailer I’m in has had over 17m views on youtube That’s only a few times less than I went to the gym to prep for the part”
Also one more thing:
http://imgur.com/1BmNab6
Is this just a joke or he is Stark knight, or Arthur ?? :O
Forgive my complete and utter ignorance, but where does that notion of KL being burned come from? Again and again someone mentions that at some time Cersei will burn KL down to the ground – how do you know that? Where there any clues, hints, leaks, set photos?
Seems I know nothing!… 🙁
Green Chili,
There was no set reports or filming that we know for this season involved any burning of KL..
But its been heavily implied cersei will burn down the KL with her obsession of wildfire and Jamie’s remark about how she reminds of aerys .
And show only made cersei threaten to burn KL like what three or fours times in last couple of season …
And we have Dany’s vision of KL burned down when she reaches KL ..
So it may not burn down this season ..but it will completely go down in next season when dany is approching KL through blackwater around episode 2 or 4 based on where we leave this season .
When cersei has defeated tyrells and dorne and thinks that there is no more enemies and no one left to take her power away that’s when she will hear about news of dany approach and with her tyrion is coming and will burn down KL
baloney
i dont care what anyone says, thats sansa’s coat in the bottom right hand corner of the pic of melissandre leaving castle black
I don’t see how anyone could see Sansa as a coward, unless you think the word only relates to being physically agressive and that would be totally unrealistic to have every woman on the show being a warrior or sadistIc murderer. When Arya is agressive I think it seems realistic because she wanted to fight when a young child and because of her age at the time this was indulged slightly by members of her family. Then Ned was killed and she was forced to carry on down that path to survive. Sansa as the older girl in that family was well on her way to being married off and had happily completed all her training to become someones wife.
I also find Brienne a realistic female warrior character, she is physically big and has trained and wears all the armour. Sometimes she struggles in her fights but is determined. If Sansa just started headbutting people or stabbing them it would seem unrealistic, it’s not what she is. I actually find her decision to marry Ramsay a demonstration that she’s not a coward. She’s using what she’s been trained to do to get her self back in the picture in the North. She is no doubt aware that even in a fairly decent marriage she will have to make all kinds of comprimises and things she doesn’t want in order to have some presence and influence. Speaking of unbelievable female characters I find the sandsnakes just that with their skimpy leather outfits which are just so impractical, they don’t seem to need armour like Brienne, they just creep about like ninja’s and never fail, that seems unrealistic and I found that scene on the boat too cheesy, I don’t want anymore female characters like that!
Ravyn,
I couldn’t agree more, it was the first love and unconditional support she has had since season 1, it was brilliantly executed by both actors
So is Davos’ “apologies for what you’re about to see” in the next episode?
HBO Now is geoblocked, very fiercely. If you wanted to watch from China, you’d have to use whatever legal service they have (if any), or try to sneak your way around HBO’s geoblocking software. It’s possible, but I know a lot of non-US-residents who HBO busted last year when they tried to (heaven forbid) pay for quality version rather than steal crappy ones.
There is at least one major Asian country (Japan) where it is literally impossible to legally watch GoT until July, unless you are willing to leave the country just to watch TV.
Connor,
Just thinking of Starks reuniting is making me emotional.
Watchers of no Trailers,
HBO Go comes with your TV provider/subscriber?
I get one also with my TV provider but it says it only works in Canada.
Deesensfan,
My guess, It’s not based on spoilers, just my pure guess. Well just info from the trailers.
Tormund and the Wildlings will get rid of Thorne and his men in EP2.
Sansa reaches CB either at the end of EP2 or early EP3.
EP3 ends with Jon coming back and Sansa is there to watch.
I have no idea how exactly he will come back though…
In Sophies IGN interview she says “Brienne is loyal to Sansa, and Sansa’s not going to lose someone who actually wants to help her,” she explained. “She’s not going to push them away at any time”.
This ties in exactly with her oath to Brienne and should (hopefully) put to bed once and for all the bizarre notion that Sansa will task Brienne with bringing Jaime to her, or that she will take the role of LSH.
Although frustratingly, the journalist wrongly presumes this means that Sansa goes to the RL with Brienne (rolls eyes).
Chad Brick,
I know, I Cant wait using my HBO for geo blocking reasons.
DO you know a way without using their legal service or trying to get past the geoblocking? Is there another way
I am not sure if one can torrent in China?
Mihnea,
You think it will happen that soon? and with Sansa there?
I feel like it is too good to be true
but I hope youre right.
Deesensfan,
I simply can’t see them doing it later.
I’m not that confident Sansa will be there but I would love it.
Sansa thinking she lost all her family, yeah she knows Bran and Rickon were not killed by Theon, but she has no idea where they are and she might even think they died.
Then Jon comes back and we have our first Stark reunion!
Off-topic.
The site seams to be back to normal for me! Don’t need to use incognito mode any longer.
Mihnea,
OMg I would love that
I don’t know I feel like they may drag his resurrection out longer, though I don’t think, strategically, that would be a good idea.
Mihnea,
yes it is back to normal.
Mihnea,
Agreed. My guess is the same.
Deesensfan,
If they drag it out any longer, people will lose patience with the storyline, and the resurrection would not have the same effect, imo. He will be back by ep 4 at the latest, more likely ep 3. Just my guess though 🙂 .
Guys, Jon won’t be resurrected from the dead. There’s some other kind of twist involved. I’m not even convinced that one pic with the director Sapochnik is Harington. If it is, maybe it’s someone glamored to look like Jon Snow. Fans have waited 10 long months with the burning question on their minds and looking forward to resolution, and yet we’re into the new season and from what we know of the first 3 episodes there’s no frame of reference for it to happen. By the time episode 4 or 5 roll around the hype for this will have died down and it would be anticlimactic. Not a good route to take if they were going to feature that.
It is very possible that Melissandre is unusually powerful and/or knowledgable and/or favored among R’hllorite clerics. Her interactions with Thoros hints strongly at the last possibility: one interpretation of her response is that she is dismayed that “Big Red Daddy” would bestow such a feat on a wayward son like Thoros.
On a side note, the fact that they did not recap Thoros this week made me think immediately that Jon would not get up this episode!
ygritte,
How is there no frame of reference for a resurrection?
Even after episode 1, there are big hints that he will be resurrected.
First, Melisandre, for the first time, reveals to us that she has seen Jon in her flames at Winterfell.
Then, they show us how her faith is at its lowest right now. First with the whole Stannis fail, and then with seeing Jon dead. This can take you back to season 3 where she meets Thoros of Myr who resurrects someone eight times, and she is shocked to hear of that. He explains to her how he went through a phase where he questioned his faith blablabla… there is a direct parallel to Melisandre’s current state.
And finally, the reveal at the end of S6EP01 shows us, the viewers, just how much power she actually has, and that she is wise beyond her years (lol).
I truly believe that is a set up for a resurrection. And if it does not happen, then I am probably really really stupid. LOL.
Wimsey,
It will be hilarious if the show Thoros in the recap….
They would spoil the suprise…
Anyone knows if the recap is made by the writers or it’s a HBO thing?
Because on HBO GO I saw no recap but monday night, when the episode officially aired here, there was one.
I am still betting that this does not happen. I think that it’s going to be a grab and run raid. If nothing else, then I think that the piquancy of having the Boltons be the ones to deal the Watch is too savory! And, don’t forget:
and the add for next weeks episode features Ramsay basically plotting to hit Castle Black himself. Now, if we thought that Castle Black was where the Bastard Bowl would be, then I would assume that Jon quickly retakes the NW. However, Mel sees Jon fighting at Winterfell: and that means that Jon has left the Wall. Having been dead and gotten better is not going to convince Jon that he’s free of his vows: but being on the lam might free him up to do some things he otherwise would not do.
But, that is just conjecture. The ad for next week could be a complete non-sequitor: but GoT’s ads almost never are.
Wimsey,
Agreed- but it also makes me wonder how, if she truly is so powerful, old, wise and high up the Rhllor pecking order (as she undoubtedly is), then how the hell has she managed to make so many misinterpretations in her flame reading? I would’ve thought after hundreds of years she’d be an expert by now. And also- why does she know nothing of three goddamn dragons? I do find this odd.
heh, but the question is: who will be there when Ramsay strikes? Quite frankly, I think that he is a bigger immediate threat to the NW than is the Night’s King!
I would love the irony of this: actions motivated by Jon’s treason to Westeros might lead to the Nationalists being killed by… a force from Westeros!
dragonbringer,
Show Cersei talks a lot about burning other cities to the ground. But I don’t recall her saying that about KL. she said it about Dorne and she said she would burn cities to protect Tommen. I did think it was strange for her to use the same line twice in last season.
Wimsey,
That’s why I think Sansa will be there.
She will convince Jon to help her retake WF and tell him what Ramsey did to her. In my opinion this is what will make him break his vows.
I don’t think Ramsey will attack the NW, yet at least. I think Roose will tell him to send a Raven and demand Sansa first, they might be afraid of the Wildlings, they might be afraid to let WF unprotected…etc. Here comes the pink latter, or a form of it..
Perhaps some lords rebel in the mean-time or something really bad happens for the Boltons, because of Ramsey and Roose threatens him. Ramsey breaks and kills him.
Concerning Tormund.
In the promo pic of Mel on a horse, I think I saw some people dressed as Wildlings in the background. That’s why I think they will take the castle.
Of course the pic was from mid season, so they might not take CB next episode….
I just want Jon back soon…That’s all!! 🙁
Ah, but remember: Joe and Jane HBO Subscriber have (by and large) not seen that Red Priests can revive the dead in 3 years. That’s much too long to trust them to remember things: they will have a hard time remembering details from their own busy lives from 3 years ago, never mind details from a TV show.
Look at it this way: when Joe and Jane HBO Subscriber makes his or her next presentation at some meeting or another, he or she will probably recap the important points from the last presentation: because they expect it of him/her just as he/she expects it of them. And, no: this does not mean that they are all dumb or that they all were failing to pay attention: it only means that since the last presentation, there have been several other presentations, reports, etc.
Ah, but he already has broken his vows, hasn’t he? At least insofar as anybody from Westeros is concerned!
My thought, however, is that Sansa will head elsewhere. I am betting that Brienne (who is tactically savvy) will tell her: Ramsay expects you to go to Castle Black; are there any houses that you think might still be loyal to you over your estranged second husband?
(I also think it possible that Treebeard, I mean, Bran might get involved.)
Sullied by Knight,
I’m a book reader and don’t particularly care if Dayne is true to book. I wouldn’t notice. Obviously, I want him to have a famous Valerian steel sword. But it won’t ruin my enjoyment of the show if it is changed.
queenofthrones,
I agree that spoilers should be marked as best they can be. But are you serious? You are on a forum that provides the most spoilers for the TV show on the internet and you are complaining about something that was provided in multiple trailers. If you don’t want spoilers then you shouldn’t be reading anything that isn’t a review of previously aired episode simple as that.
Wimsey,
I agree that for the lords, he already broke his vows with the wildlings.
I’m not that sure Sansa will be there. I would just love her to witness his resurection and convince him to join her in taking their home back…
It’s mostly wishful thinking… I hope I’m right, but not holding my breath yet.
We should have more clues and indication where the story is going in the next episode!
Lyanna_Targaryen,
Yeah, what the hell! I agree with you. I am sorry if you are reading any article outside of a recap from previous episode then you are at risk for spoilers. People act like it is illegal or something and then cry foul play when they start reading articles not pertaining to episodes. “Oh just curious what Sophie Turner has said recently, i’ll click this article about filming locations cause the internet wouldn’t provide spoilers” some peeps are very ignorant.
Demon Monkey,
It’s not Valyrian steel. 🙂
I think the sword was named in a lore video, I just don’t think it will be pale white. I doubt it will look good on camera and frankly I don’t really want them to bother with a sword will never see again.
Yes I’m confident will never see Dawn again and that it’s not some magical sword that holds the meaning of the universe in it…..
How is that the case in the show? If Ramsay goes to the Wall to hunt for Sansa, it won’t have anything to do with Thorne killing Jon, nor would Thorne’s not killing Jon have changed anything.
Inquisitor1961,
There are leaks about which directors working which episodes. Then there are leaks about which actors are seen with which directors, then there are leaks of pictures with that ACTION SNAP thing that always states episode. You take all of these images and start to compare them. The easiest way is finding out which directors are for which episodes. GoT can be easy to breakdown even with behind the scenes pictures. Settings and clothing give away a lot of information for Westerosi characters. Something as simple as a haircut or background extras can tell you a lot especially if you know which director is shooting that shot.
I wonder if Littlefinger will bring Ned’s bones to Winterfell… they haven’t been seen since season 2.
Jon Snow’s Shaggy Mantle,
yes to this!
I think Arthur Dayne is still in the show, I don’t think they’re showing him in any of the promos and they want to save him for a reveal, this is what I am hoping for!
And episode 2 looks good, I have no doubts that the scene where Wun Wun crashes through the gates is next episode. And I find it odd that they don’t include anything about Castle Black for episode 3 in the description. Maybe they might change it before the episode airs?
Connor,
I don’t think it’s confirmed though.
I want to know who gets the
LOL
Connor,
As Sansa possibly sends brienne to find arya… After discovering she’s alive
ghost of winterfell,
Chod,
Why would Sansa send Brienne away? WHo will stay with her and protect her?
Deesensfan,
In the trailer Brienne’s in a place with Tully banners, possibly Riverrun.
At some point she does go south.(I doubt there are Tully banners in the North) Why? No idea.
Inquisitor1961,
My only question is how do you know that is from episode 2? I don’t recall that image in the trailer for episode 2 at the end of episode.
Our Lord and saviour Jon Snow, of course! 🙂
My guess she and or Sansa will feel she’s in a safe place surrounded by a support group and per end of episode preview based on their discussion, Sansa task her to either goto the RL to help the Tully’s and or find Arya.
Mihnea,
I didn’t even notice those banners.
Mihnea,
Imagine 😉
okay so if she does send brienne away, it will be later.
You know, it may actually be how the season ends for Brienne. Once Sansa is queen in the North, she will send brienne to go find arya.
I have always wondered how arya is going to get back to westeros.
I was thinking that Dany will need to go to the Bank of Bravos and buy more ships. I was hoping she would meet arya
Grailking,
Arya is my bet.
In the preview for EP2 she’s telling Sansa about Arya.
Mihnea,
yupper, also above I ment Ser, not saint to my spoiler question . LOL
Grailking,
I was so confused about that ST. Patrick!! LOL
Stargaryen,
Inquisitor1961,
Inquisitor1961,
Bran is standing in that shot, most likely a vision.
As far as where Sansa goes, I always said here and other forums, that to show Sansa getting savvy she should be the one to realize Ramsey would expect her to go to CB and makes a decision to go somewhere else.
Maybe they can meet a mountain clan from another house who can warn them of people looking for a wolf pelt or about what went on at CB?
Mihnea,
But you understand the meaning now right?
:>)
Grailking,
Yup. 🙂
Four days is too long.
Watchers of no Trailers,
That would be great, but it appears that Dayne will just simply wield two swords and NO WAY Ned can handle ICE the great sword in a fight. The Mountain could barely handle Ice.
Stargaryen,
Speaking of the mountain
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3560768/Game-Thrones-star-Thor-Bjornsson-reveals-NINE-meal-day-diet-Instagram-ahead-World-s-Strongest-Man.html
I hope that Ramsay’s new fur coat isn’t Shaggydog. That would make me pretty angry. I think they will highlight how awful he is before they kill him off.
On a brighter note, msd posted a link (on the “Young Ned cast…” thread) to an imdb resume of a cute little boy playing Young Benjen!
Stargaryen,
How i know its from episode 2 ?
This is how i know:
“got/gallery6/gallery2/hires/1.jpg” (Game of thrones season 6 episode 2 photo 1..
Replace 1.jpg with “2.jpg 3.jpg…etc and enjoy with photos from next episode 😉
We will find out,
Deesensfan,
So was 1 year, yet it passed. 🙂
Deesensfan,
It’s Wednesday already, and for me, these couple of days went by pretty quick.
Will the show mention Azor Ahai? Or maybe even reveal who he/she is? (I do believe that Jon is Azor Ahai reborn)
Mihnea,
ughhh
it feels so long.
Connor,
LOL.. not for me hahaha
JustanotherSchemer,
I doubt they will ever say ”azor ahai”
They always said ”the warrior of fire/The lords chosen”
Even ”The son of fire”
And in a filming leak
They will reveal who he/she is no doubt, I just don’t think they will name him/her by ”azor ahai”
Deesensfan,
If only we could fast forward to Sunday lmao.
I think both
Connor,
I knowww
I’ve been saying since filming spoilers came out that Sansa isn’t going to Castle Black. Ramsay knows she’s going there – so she runs there and then somehow they stick it out till episode 5, where they saddle up calmly to leave, even after 4 episodes of Ramsay knowing she’s there and planning an attack? No freakin way. The only way it makes any sense is if Ramsay gives up going to castle black and he’d only do that if he had something better – perhaps Rickon.
And she can only get to castle black once the loyal forces have taken it over and perhaps Jon is alive otherwise Thorne would never take her – escaped bride of warden of the north’s heir and the former Lord Commander’s Stark sister – on. Either way, Thorne and his men will be subdued – Mel wouldn’t be able to leave so calmly if they weren’t.
She’ll go elsewhere. And frankly I think Davos is the one screwing up her plans like she alluded to in an interview. She’s demanding a union against the Boltons and Davos – jon’s messenger – says the dead and white walkers are coming and that’s the real fight.
I don’t think Jon and Sansa are on opposite sides but they’re not exactly on the same side either.
Connor,
Actually, one of my questions is why would Rh’llor be sending mixed messages to his priestesses…He is showing Mel that it is Stannis/now Jon, but the red priestess in Mereen is telling the crowd that it is Daeny. Same religion, different saviour…or am I missing something?
Makes sense! Melisandre named Stannis the Warrior of Light in the show.
Rygritte,
Which banner holds the soldier behind Davos in this photo?
It’s obviously a direwolf
ygritte,
Jesus….
Not this theory again XD
What if:
Sullied by Knight,
Well that’s a very good question
I don’t think we are supposed to know the answer to that
Sullied by Knight,
Rhllor never showed anything about Stannis. Its just Mel made an wrong assumption based on him being lord of dragonstone…the visions she is having are actually showing about viserys death and dany and dragons but she keeps misinterpreting them ..
That said Rhllor shows what he wants and does not show what was asked that much was said in Mel chapter ..
With that said moqorro does read the fires well than Mel ..
One thing that is different from those in essos and Mel is …red priests essos didn’t do anything regarding dany fulfilling prophecy or her raise to power ..if anything because of dany rhllor and red priests have gained more power..
Whereas mel did andand will help stannis and jon respectively.
Hahaha! I would love that
Sullied by Knight,
Same visions, but different interpretations.
Who is right? Maybe none. Maybe both.
I’m pretty sure we’ve already seen Arthur Dayne & the legendary sword Dawn in the promos.
Take a look at this article: http://www.moviefone.com/photos/20-things-you-need-to-know-before-you-watch-game-of-thrones-season-6/
Scroll down to item #19. You see a picture of a knight in Targ armor wielding two swords. The one in his right hand seems pretty white to me (including the hilt) and was not Dawn described as a “milky-white sword” in the books?
As to why Dayne is dual-wielding swords, my speculation is that another knight has already been killed, and Dayne took that third knight’s sword.
Mihnea,
Tormund Vs. Thorne- Round 2!
Well said!
Deesensfan,
But I want to know!!! 🙂
But is he the one who will unite the living to fight against the others? The night king definitely had some interest in Jon. That epic stare down at the end of hardhome.
Connor,
dragonbringer,
I do believe that Mel was misinterpreting her visions and hopefully, she’ll get that cleared up soon. 🙂 She knows there is a bigger battle against the darkness coming soon and believed that Stannis would be the saviour. If she gets her visions sorted, she’ll realize it is Jon. I would just think that other priestesses would look into their fires and see Jon, as well. Not Daeny. And I am assuming that other red priests/priestesses have the same vision in the fire thing going for them.
Stargaryen,
Actually, you know where that picture of Brienne kind of reminds me of?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0xJD5u3A4Y
The youtube clips is Arya and the Brotherhood in Season 3, just when she’s recognized by the Hound at the pub. Look at the entryway in the background.
Compare it to: http://s1.ibtimes.com/sites/www.ibtimes.com/files/styles/embed-md/public/2016/03/31/game-thrones.jpg
Perhaps this is somewhere in the northern Riverlands, and it’s been getting increasingly colder there, which is why it looks like there is frost.
Judging by what we know about where Brienne is going later in the season, it might make sense.
Since Edd has gone to the Wildlings, assuming he makes it safely they will know about Jon, so there is a *small* possibility that Sansa could run into them on her way north and find out what has happened and that they will shelter her temporarily, keeping her from Ramsay. This could set up potential conflict between the Wildlings and the Boltons.
It’s a bit out there, but a possibility. Setting up a complete clusterf**k where the Wildlings, the Boltons and the two NW factions are all in chaos while impending doom moves down from Beyond the Wall.
Even in the Inside Episode 8, they said that the Night King has interest in Jon, the Night King saw everything Jon did go down, he saw him kill one of his lieutenants . That is sooo foreshadowing, they can’t keep Jon dead after all of that.
They are going to meet again…..
Kind of unrelated – does anyone know the time frame from the start of the series to where we are now? I know the size of the dragons are a pretty good indicator, but just curious if there was a solid number out there.
Hello to everyone. I would like to give an alternative probable source that Martin and the showrunners of the saw may have used in order to make the books and the saw (even they do not admit it). It is not known that the title king in the North has been used for the first time in Daniel final vision in bible (and both showrunners have an israeili ascent and maybe their beliefs and history infuences them when the write the series). Martin may have been also a little been influenced by norse mythology (see http://gameofthronesandnorsemythology.blogspot.gr/2013/05/ragnarok-song-of-ice-fire.html, the writer of this blog Dorian the Historian was absolutely right in 2013 for Melisandre-Hell in this article-age and appearance in game of thrones season 6 episode 1). I have read it personally years before the books. I made my survey and in the next lines follows the original Daniel text, the Game of Thrones probably connections, and how maybe these events will finally lead to the final Game of Thrones winner. I wish to everyone good fun and tell me your opinions.
THE COMPARISON OF DANIEL TEXT AND GAME OF THRONES EVENTS
The king of the South will become strong (the Mad King), but one of his commanders (Tywin Lannister) will become even stronger than he (and in the time of the Mad King reign and after that) and will rule his own kingdom with great power.” (11:5).
“After some years, they will become allies. The daughter of the king of the South (Cersei Lannister) will go to the king of the North (informal king of the North during the Rebellion Robert Baratheon who was in command of the north army in this time) to make an alliance, but she will not retain her power, and he and his power will not last (and as we know by Magie prophecies in a long term period the Cersei will lose her authority, her children and her life and in the same will lose their life with her father, her husband and her protector jamie). In those days she will be handed over, together with her royal escort and her father and the one who supported her (something that happens in a long term period during the time of the Game of Thrones Period).” (11:6).
“7 One from her family line will arise to take his place (after Robert death rose Joffry). He will attack the forces of the king of the (informal in this time period) North (Eddard Stark) and enter his fortress (the Gregor Clegane and Jamie invasions and the capture of Harrenhal fortress by them of Eddard allies Tullys); he will fight against them and be victorious (in first place).
8 He will also seize their gods (the plundered septs, the statues of the Seven and the old gods destroyed holy trees), their metal images and their valuable articles of silver and gold and carry them off to Egypt (with Egypt here means the South, either Castely Rock or most probably King’s Landing). For some time he will leave the king of the North alone. Then the king of the North will invade the realm of the king of the South but will retreat to his own country (the failed invasion of Robb to save his father).” (11:7-9).
“His sons (Bran, Rickonn and Robb Stark especially who officially declared King in the North now) shall wage war and assemble a multitude of great forces, which shall keep coming and overflow and pass through, and again shall carry the war as far as his fortress.” (11:10, ESV).
Then the king of the South will march out in a rage and fight against the king of the North, who will raise a large army, but it will be defeated (the defeat of Robb Stark garrison force by Tyrion and his wildlings). When the army is carried off, the king of the South will be filled with pride and will slaughter many thousands (indeed Joffry the over prided king will king thousands of innocents during the war not only in the battles but even in King’s Landing during the uprising)….” (11:10-12a).
Yet he will not remain triumphant. For the king of the North will muster another army, larger than the first; and after some time, he will advance with a huge army fully equipped (continuing Robb Stark wins, Jammie arrest).” (11:12b-13).
“In those times many will rise against the king of the South (the official declaring of the war of five kings Robb, Joffry, Balon, Renly, Stannis). The violent men among your own people will rebel in fulfillment of the vision, but without success (the uprising in King’s Landing Rebellion during Joffry reign and it’s unsuccessful result).” (11:14).
“15 Then the king of the North will come and build up siege ramps and will capture a fortified city (Harenhall). The forces of the South will be powerless to resist; even their best troops will not have the strength to stand. The invader will do as he pleases; no one will be able to stand against him. He will establish himself in the Beautiful Land and will have the power to destroy it (continuing triumphs of Robb Stark). ” (11:15-16).
“He will determine to come with the might of his entire kingdom and will try to make an alliance with the king of the South (in the tv series Robb makes a failed attempt for peace with his terms to the Lannisters, but it doesn’t work). And he will give him a daughter in marriage in order to overthrow the kingdom, but his plans will not succeed or help him, because his daughter will not stay loyal to him and will not help his plans (this differs only in a chronological line, because this wedding proposal happens indeed in the beginning of the series not by Robb, but by his father when he plans to marry his daughter Sansa to Joffry, but she ultimely betrays her father’s plans to Lannister as we know of the books, and then follows them for a time in order to save her life.).” (11:17).
Then he (Robb) will turn his attention to the coastlands (Lannister lands) and will take many of them, but a commander will put an end to his insolence and will turn his insolence back upon him (Roose by sending Ramsay capture Winterfell and bring great complications in his plans). After this, he will turn back toward the fortresses of his own country but will stumble and fall, to be seen no more (and indeed he return to his supposed allies, the Freys Fortress, the twins, were he has fall be the red wedding).” (11:18-19).
“His successor (his unofficial by his Robb’s will was John Snow) will send out a tax collector (Tycho Nestorris) to maintain his royal splendor (as we know from the books John Snow was forced to give the wall as a collaterall to the iron bank of braavos as well as it’s land in the Gift in order to find money to buy supplies, together with many other cruel economic conditions). In a few time, however, he will be destroyed, yet not in battle (but by «for the Watch» mutiny).” (11:20).
“He will be succeeded by a contemptible person who has not been given the honor of royalty (he will not be either the true heir of the kingship of the North or a royal-aristocrat at all). He will seize the Kingdom it through intrigue (probably as we will see he can speak for Stannis and his schemes according to melisandra’ s visions, but his characteristics can match to another evil competitor the littlefinger).” (11:21)
Then an overwhelming army will be swept away before him; both it (the army) and a prince of the covenant will be destroyed (probably it speaks for the battle by Stannis and the wildlings in the wall the books, and in the tv series. I personally believe that John Snow will take Stannis place and story arc in tv series after his demise. As for the prince of covenant he may speak for High Sparrow or Tommen in the series, but it does not mean that they will fall necessary by his schemes). After coming to an agreement (maybe with the Iron Bank), he will act deceitfully, and with only a few people he will rise to power (as we know Stannis army is not big at first). When the richest provinces feel secure, he will invade them (as we know Stannis invaded the Storm Lands, King’s Landing and the North in the series) and will achieve what neither his fathers nor his forefathers did. He will distribute plunder, loot and wealth among his followers. He will plot the overthrow of fortresses — but only for a time (what Stannis plans to do in the books to win support for his cause).” (11:22-24).
“25 With a large armyhe will stir up his strength and courage against the king of the South. The king of the South will wage war with a large and very powerful army, but he will not be able to stand because of the plots devised against him (maybe he speaks for the battle of Stannis vs Boltons that will be replaced by the battle the North vs the Boltons in Game of Thrones season 6). Those who eat from the king of the South provisions will try to destroy him (maybe Manderly according to the books in battle, so happens with Littlefinger battle schemes against Tommen Bolton allies, and the schemes of Varys in King’s Landing); his army will be swept away and many will fall in battle (probably this battle will bring the end and the full destruction of Boltons).The two kings, with their hearts bent on evil, will sit at the same table and lie to each other, but to no avail, because an end will still come at the appointed time (maybe there will be a small truce for some time before the war starts again).” (11:25-27).
“The king of the North will return to his own country with great wealth, but his heart will be set against the holy covenant. He will take action against it and then return to his own country (it speaks for a king with great religious fanatism that will purge his religious enemies with great wrath, most probably the Seven religion. His country can be or the new territories that he occupied in the North or Dragonstone-Storm’s End).” (11:28).
At the appointed time he will invade the South again, but this time the outcome will be different from what it was before. Ships of the western coastlands will oppose him, and he will lose heart (maybe there will be an invasion to his lands by Greyjoys, Redwines or Airon Waters that will prevent him to attack his enemies immediately)….” (11:29-30a).
“Then he will turn back and vent his fury against the holy covenant. He will return and show favor to those who forsake the holy covenant.” (11:30b).
His armed forces will rise up to desecrate the temple fortress and will abolish the daily sacrifice. Then they will set up the abomination that causes desolation. With flattery he will corrupt those who have violated the covenant (many will come to him to save their lives and will follow him), but the people who know their God will firmly resist him (maybe Stannis start an overall purge of the faith of the Seven to his territories as he does to tv series or to king’s Landing if he captures it on the books and make the Sept of Balor a temple of his Red God).” (11:31-32).
Those who are wise will instruct many, though for a time they will fall by the sword or be burned (exactly what Stannis does) or captured or plundered. When they fall, they will receive a little help, and many who are not sincere will join them (many maybe use this fanatic purge of the Seven as an excuse to save the oppressed and gain more followers for the iron throne). Some of the wise will stumble, so that they may be refined, purified and made spotless until the time of the end, for it will still come at the appointed time.” (11:33-35).
The king will do as he pleases. He will exalt and magnify himself above every god and will say unheard-of things against the God of gods (Stannis thinks he is the lord of light chosen one). He will be successful until the time of wrath is completed, for what has been determined must take place.
He will show no regard for the gods of his ancestors or for the one desired by women, nor will he regard any god, but will exalt himself above them all (a great description of Stannis, apostate of his father religion, fanatical follower of red god and he does not care for women unlike his brother Robert).
Instead of them, he will honor a god of fortresses; a god unknown to his ancestors (indeed his ancestors used to believe in the Seven) he will honor with gold and silver, with precious stones and costly gifts.
He will attack the mightiest fortresses with the help of a foreign god (with his shadow babies he took Storm’s End in the books) and will greatly honor those who acknowledge him. He will make them rulers over many people and will distribute the land at a price.
“At the time of the end the king of the South (he may be Tommen if he still lives, Aegon, with smaller chances being Daenarys, Euron, Mace Tyrell, High Sparrow, or Littlefinger) will engage him in battle, and the king of the North will storm out against him with chariots and cavalry and a great fleet of ships. He will invade many countries and sweep through them like a flood. He will also invade the Beautiful Land. Many countries will fall, but Edom, Moab and the leaders of Ammon will be delivered from his hand (probably three aristocrat houses of westeros will follow him in order to avoid his wrath).
He will extend his power over many countries; Egypt will not escape (maybe King’s Landing or Castely Rock). He will gain control of the treasures of gold and silver and all the riches of Egypt, with the Libyans and Cushites in submission (maybe he will take over two powerful aristocratic houses of westeros).
But reports from the east (maybe Daenarys, Euron or Aegon) and the north (maybe white walkers or Baliesh and the Northerners in the books, in the series if they give John Snow the Stannis story arc they will be I believe only the Others) will alarm him, and he will set out in a great rage to destroy and annihilate many. He will pitch his royal tents between the seas at the beautiful holy mountain. Yet he will come to his end, and no one will help him (maybe none of his soldiers, but maybe also Davos or Melisandre abandon Stannis as the red witch did in the series).
“At that time Michael, the great prince who protects your people (the savior angel with the fire sword), will arise (probably the angel Michael represents the prince was promised or the Azor Akhai in the series). There will be a time of distress such as has not happened from the beginning of nations until then. But at that time your people–everyone whose name is found written in the book–will be delivered.
Multitudes who sleep in the dust of the earth will awake: some to everlasting life, others to shame and everlasting contempt. Those who are wise will shine like the brightness of the heavens, and those who lead many to righteousness, like the stars for ever and ever.
According to my view the final winner will be most probably John Snow, or Daenarys, Aegon and even Tyrion, but he will not be as I see it neither Victarion, Euron, Baliesh, Varys, Tommen, Mace Tyrell or Stannis (whose almost all story in the books and the series is being foreshadowed by the final king in the North).
Sullied by Knight,
Hahaha me too.
Is it possible that both Jon and Dany are seen in the flames as they both may be the key to ending the long night?
WillieBeans,
Well I would not use BABY sam as a measure
hahaha
I ain’t reading that.
Jesus Christ…
Connor,
Since when fighting Ramsey means azor ahai ..
She was seeing winged shadows on her fire when she asks about azor ahai in the book.
Remember other people can alsoalso be seen in the flames like how moqorro sees victarion and tyrion ..
Likewise mel is seeing Jon someone who is important that does not make him azor ahai..
Anyways I hope this gets answed as dany for certain at the end of episode 4 and we move on
Connor,
JustanotherSchemer,
LOL
snake,
Can we get a tl;dr?
Tycho Nestoris,
I had to google what tl;dr is
HAHA
Does anyone remember that quote from Sophie that Sansa is going to have to deal with trying to get groups back on track or something from those trying to throw a wrench in her plans?
I think we assumed Umbers but what if it’s Davos in Bear Island? She’s there trying to rally Stark allies against the Boltons, and Davos’ message is that the White Walkers and the dead are coming and the Wildlings and Nights Watch deserters are on the right side. Those are two different fights, even though they’re not technically on opposite sides.
My educated guess is no more than three years, going by the books Arya is 9 at the start and 11 in Braavos
HELL YEAH!
If we take a look at the guns on the walls of book and show, what is then more likely a valid speculation:
or
?
snake,
WTF
joffreysbleedingeyes,
Alt Shift X explains episode 1 very well. He explains the big Melisandre reveal.
Deesensfan,
My cousins are Dominican and always write jaja. I was like what is jaja? Is that Spanish? They jaja’d at me some more.
Mihnea,
This
Tycho Nestoris,
jajajaja!
it is Spanish laughing
My sissy speaks Spanish so she laughs like that too
jymion,
I think so, too. I think it is Mel, Sansa, Davos with Jon on the black horse (because you can see LongClaw’s pommel.) They aren’t allowing Jon very much time to heal and regain strength. You’d think that would take a while after being dead.
I rewatched The Dance of Dragons, Mothers Mercy and The Red Woman one after the other last night. I gotta say, Dorne makes much more sense to me now, because I wasn’t constantly expecting Doran to reveal his true intentions. Show-Doran is simply a very different character, and now that I know that, it was much more enjoyable to watch, and actually kinda heartbreaking when he gets killed. Doran was the only one of the high lords who was willing to break the cycle of revenge in order to protect his people. He was a man of Peace, a humanist. That’s what got him killed of course, but it fits nicely into the story that there’s this one lord, who simply wants Peace. And Alexander Siddig is great in the role. I honestly think it’s the expectations from the books that make people hate dorne so much, because for the premiere it seems unsullied really like the parts in Dorne. It just needed to be a little more fast-moving, which is what happened in The Red Woman. Ellaria and the sandsnakes now stand as despicable villains, and I want Blind Arya to battle Obara, Nym and Tyene, three on one, before she impales ellaria on needle 🙂
tl;dr? what does it mean?
snake,
Too Long; Didn’t Read
Basically a brief summary of what you were saying
I’m really excited to see how his character will change. I don’t believe he will be the same old Jon anymore.
Connor,
A nice recap. I expected a bit of book rant but was pleseantly suprised!
Sullied by Knight,
You are so close to a Princess Bride ref that I am just going to quote it.
Westley: “Who are you? Are we enemies? Why am I on this wall? Where is Buttercup?”
Inigo Montoya: “Let me explain. *pause* No, there is too much. Let me sum up.”
Probably! Can’t wait to see who Ghost rips into! He better not die!!!
joffreysbleedingeyes,
I don’t know why on earth anyone thinks this whole thing is an elaborate glamor? that’s so so dumb, sorry. Then there’s no point in holding on to Jon’s body from a plot perspective.
The glamoring of Mel I think is just to show that she’s seen so so much, that there is this deep and ancient power in her but also her weariness, that she’s prophecized the WWs are coming with such certainty and now in this weary state she’s seeing that maybe she got the heroes wrong all along, and that she’s old and there may be no hope (if she saw both Stannis and Jon as important).
Sullied by Knight,
Can someone point out exactly where Longclaw is? I don’t see it at all
Alt Shift X would never do that, he likes both the show and books equally, and that’s one of the reasons I like his channel so much. His great breakdowns of the show and these theories are always fun to watch and learn.
dragonbringer,
We are never going to get a definitive answer to the AA question. It will be left up to interpretation. And if one Red Priest or Priestess declares Dany to be the “one who was promised”, it doesn’t confirm anything, no more than Mel believing it was Stannis does. In the end, both Dany and Jon are probably going to be fighting the same war, so how will it be possible to guess which one is AA/pwwp? I’ve stated before that I think the AA reborn and the ‘dragon has three heads’ prophecies are intertwined. I believe Dany and Jon are pretty much guaranteed to be two of the heads. The third will likely wind up being Bran or Tyrion, IMO.
Connor,
I’ll check him out from now on, thanks!
Wimsey,
I was just thinking- I doubt Thoros is also “centuries” old. Melisandre’s reaction to his unusual skillset could be just this: Why has this joker been awarded the gift- I’m the one who’s hundreds of years old! For all we know, Thoros is also ancient as well, but I hope not.
Atish Vaze,
The supposedly casting call for Lyanna involved several scenes, and one very big scene of major importance, therefore we will see her in a couple of scenes before the ToJ, unless post production editing reduced the role.
Hello Tycho. Can yoy please tell me what you mean becouse i do not know what this phrase means?
Damphairintheshowplease!,
I agree that expectations from the book are part of the problem ppl have w Dorne. But I don’t agree that moving more quickly is the thing that makes it better. That doesn’t apply in the intro to the Sand Snakes. Their intro was rushed and honestly badly written. It is the only bit that I ever thought was badly written. In contrast, Oberyn was introduced in such an interesting way. We learn about his character, which appeals to us, and then he exchanges witty barbs w a Lannister soldier and shows us his prowess. Then he confesses his motivations to Tyrion. And of course, Pedro Pascal is Chilean (I think) so he has an authentic accent.
In contrast, the sand snakes are all introduced at once. Obaras intro is this is who I am. I’m a fighter not a crier so yea I will fight w u. And then we get another cheesy line from her along with that fight scene and a sand snake with a whip. While I hated the nudity in their next scene, at least them interacting in the cell was a bit better and gave us an idea of their characters. But it was too little too late. So brevity is not a solution for everything.
But otherwise I agree w u.
Mihnea,
No problem!
tyjon,
Really? That’s strange, because no obvious call for Rhaegar?
Wonder what those scenes aside from TOJ would be that would involve her but not anyone else? Maybe just her IN the TOJ, which would’ve likely been filmed in studio?
snake,
It means “Too long, didn’t read”. The text you pasted was way too long to bother reading. I did read it, and I think it is trying too hard to make things fit.
I wonder what vision Bran and 3-Eyed Raven will have next episode?
Tycho Nestoris,
One of my all-time favorite movies. Even Westley took some time to regain his full self. lol On another thread I had mentioned how Davos’ mutton comment reminded me of Miracle Max standing over Westley’s mostly dead body. 🙂
Dragonmcmx posted a link to the music from episode one the other day. I cant find it! can someone share?
Connor,
wait.
Connor,
Yeah but why would one casting call encompass multiple scenes if one was young – young enough to film with boys as Benjen and Ned – and then TOJ?
Connor,
Not TOJ.
Nadia,
I never saw such a quote. It would be horrible for Sansa and Jon to be opposing each other. But because it’s horrible that might be something the show runners will do.
Nadia,
Look behind Mel to the figure on a dark horse, look to his left side and follow down to where a sword should be, you will see a nice white object, that looks like it may be Ghost pommel .
Mihnea,
This
Nadia,
You see a big white spot, too big to be a snowflake, at the horse rider’s left hip, right where the pommel of his sword would be.
Mihnea,
I don’t remember. But I think we will see what
Connor,
If Bran sees a vision in S6EP02 which I am sure he will. I am thinking he is going to see Jon’s death.
Connor,
Yup there was info about finding
Mihnea,
Nadia,
I honestly do not know anymore lol. We won’t have to wait much longer anyways.
snake,
he said that your previous post was way too long and could you please summarize it up a little (or a lot)
Deesensfan,
That’s a good possibility.
Tyrion Pimpslap,
We will definitely get one in the show ..
No dany is not the same as Jon or stannis because stannis never fulfilled anything and Jon so far only in the theories ..
Whereas dany as fulfilled all of them..
Surely one who brought dragons and ride them will be leading factor ..and as for three headed dragon we will definitely get an answer and this is what will make sure that dany is the one ..since i believe she is the three headed dragon .and if no one else rides the dragons that’s your answer..
The only problem I see is people not accepting anyone other than jon ( not you but most people do that )
But killing your sister is honorable?
Mihnea,
Was there info, or just speculation? Not because I like to be spoiled, but… I was under the impression is was just speculation. I would be happy if we get that, wonder what relevance it could have for the overall story?
Believe me Jay Targ I already tried to have a a smaller review of my thoughts but unforunately there was no other way to give the original text and cut pieces of it without altering its meaning. I gave this text in order to have a better discussion and ideas for the show or the books. Believe me I do not want anyone of you to get tired. I hope If the text is being readed, then the reader will find usefull informatons. Sorry if I make mistakes but unforunately I have not write in many websites. Have a good Game of Thrones season 6 Watch.
JustanotherSchemer,
thank you!
Mihnea,
If Jon is important, and we are approaching end game, Bran has to start figuring out these things… itll have to start by him seeing Jon die.
JustanotherSchemer,
You should be using spoilers here, even if speculation.
Also
Hello Sou and have a nice day. As I said to Jay I have tried to make a review of my text but I wasn’t able to succeed, because this would change the original text meaning or will cut its described events. I am afraid I am not very good in making reviews, so if I could ask do you know anyone of the readers and commenters of this site that could help me a little in this task? In any case thank you for your immediate reply. Have a good Game of Thrones season 6 Watch.
Demon Monkey,
Yeah I see what you’re saying. What I meant was, that in season 5 Dorne was spread very thin over too many episodes without too much of importance happening, which makes for boring viewing. I dont think it should move fast exactly, just that the coup scenes in s6e1 helped the storyline, because it was fastpaced in term of action. Something of importance happened without us having to wait 10 episodes of tiny tid bits and check-inns. But I can see why my comment didnt make a lot of sense. Sorry.
Thanks for your reading Lord Tyrion. I appreciate it very much that you read my text. As I said to Sou and Jay Targ I tried to give a knew personal theory (with all its strong and weak parts of course) and food for thought and discussion to all the readers of this topic and website. Sorry if you find the text too big but I couldn’t make it smaller, becouse I am afraid it would loose its meaning. In any case thank you for your attention my Lord.
With great respect regards,
Ser Snake
There hasn’t been any indication that Ramsay attacks Castle Black. We see him suggesting that in the 602 promo, but it doesn’t follow that he does it. Indeed, if his voiceover from that early promo is from some version of the Pink Letter, we know he sends a missive instead. Indeed, you yourself cite the evidence that shows Castle Black is unmolested for some time.
I’m not sure how this is an argument for her not going to Castle Black. Thorne and co. will be defeated in 602; as we can see from the promo, Sansa’s still in the wilds at that point.
I don’t think that’s the direwolf pommel of his sword. If it is Jon, which I’m not totally convinced it is even though I want it to be, I think that white thing is the top of the dagger he wears on his right hip. It’s too small to be the direwolf. Plus, Longclaw comes up almost to Jon’s armpit. This thing is down around the person’s waist. Or it could just be a really big snowflake.
Every person who has commented on this has accepted that Dany is also AAR. So I really don’t see your point.
GUYS!
Look at this pls:
Aren’t here 4 horses ? first is in front of Mel, second is Mel ofc, third is horse without rider and last one maybe Sansa ?
BunBunStark,
Yes, it might just be a really big snowflake, but wishful thinking makes me happy! 🙂
Inquisitor1961,
Yep, someone has already suggested that this is a dress. As there has been speculation about the rider behind.
JustanotherSchemer,
Thank you. I can’t really see it from this photo…
Ravyn,
When was the last time Sansa was hugged that way by *anyone*? Years?
ghost of winterfell,
Really I think sullied by knight said something like how he/she will like that red priest from essos realize they are wrong and start seeing jon and not seeing dany ..
And was people were arguing that not all aspects of the prophecies should be fulfilled ( very conveniently makes sure Jon is the one and ignores the one who fulfilled it ) ..
I really want to wait till episode 4 or end of this season …because I acknowledge that there is a chance that Jon may also be fulfilling then that will mean both Jon and dany are same …but as of right now there is nothing other than theories regards to Jon and I see him coming back the same way as beric and cat so I doubt he will be fulfilling any thing ..
But I sure hope that this season put this topic to rest like valyrian steel and Mel’s real age ..
Harrison,
Doing a rewatch yesterday, I loved it even more.
Will watch again tonight
Harrison,
Pre-books & show if ever.
I changed my mind. I don’t want Jon to kill Ramsey. I want Sansa to.
“Winterfell is mine. Now kneel my lord and hold still…or it will go badly for you”.
Takes Oathkeepr from Brienne and does a better job of it than Theon.
The Stark way.
snake,
Hello, snake!
I was able to read through a bit of your post (my day is busy enough, I wasn’t able to finish it without becoming distracted by other things). You’ve obviously put a lot of thought into it, and I appreciate the time you spent putting together your thoughts to share with us. I hope, perhaps tonight, to be able to go through it and give it my full attention. That said, from what I’ve read of it thus far, you’ve certainly found some valid parallels. If I remember correctly, Martin uses a variety of sources/places/parts of history as inspiration, but some of what you’ve found could definitely point to parts of Daniel being one of them.
Inquisitor1961,
This has been already discussed extensively months ago in this site. So not news…
dothrakian raven,
Stark.
http://i.lv3.hbo.com/assets/images/series/game-of-thrones/video-stills/season-06/battle-banner-tease-stark-788671-2_PRO1-512.jpg
He’s also wearing a Stark helmet.
https://patricksponaugle.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/arya-stark-950×565.png
snake,
That you had the patience to write all this!!! It is interesting. I also find it interesting to discover parallels with parts of the world history and mythology and many things of the story can apply to different historical and mythological narratives. Good work!
Sullied by Knight,
All of the other snowflakes are tiny.
Rygritte,
Yes indeed, lazy eye! Thank you!
Hoyti Von Totiy,
Maybe he will let some of the wildlings occupy it while he & the rest ride south.
Rygritte,
Love that little Arya pic! Things have sure changed!
BunBunStark,
And even if it is Longclaw, that doesn’t mean that it’s necessarily Jon carrying it. Could it be Davos? Maybe taking it to Bear Island.
snake,
That was a very long, yet interesting read, particularly the link. I appreciate you taking the time to compose and share it. I had never thought to compare Game of Thrones with Ragnarök, but I do see some intriguing parallels. Thank you!
THANK YOU BOTH FAST DOTHRAKIAN RAVEN AND GREAT NYMMERIA WARRIOR QUENN. THANKS YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS AND YOUR ATTENTION. I REALLY APRECCIATE YOUR COMMENTS TOO MUCH. I HOPE YOU BOTH ENJOYED MY TEXT. I HOPE YOU BOTH ENJOY THE NEXT SEASON OF GAME OF THRONES. I HAVE AND ANOTHER THOERY: THAT WHEN MARTIN FINISHES A STORY OF A MAN (OR WOMAN) WITH CERTAIN CHARACTERISTICS (KILLS HIM), THEN HE REPLACES HIM WITH ANOTHER ONE WITH THE SAME CHARACTERISTICS UNTIL THE LAST BATTLE. SO IN THE BEGGING WE HAVE THE MAD MEN, THEN VISERYS, THEN JOFFRY, THEN RAMSAY AND LAST EURON. IN THE SAME WAY WE HAVE THE HONORED MEN, FIRST NED STARK, THEN SER BARRISTAN, THEN SER KEVAN, THEN YOHN ROYCE AND LAST PROBABLY JOHN SNOW. THE SAME HAPPENS WITH THE CRUEL CALCULATORS, FIRST TYWIN, THEN ROOSE BOLTON, THEN LADY OLLENA AND THEN HIGH SPARROW (HIS BEHAVIOR CERSEI THINKS REMINDS HER FATHERS). SO GOES ON WITH COLD ONES (EVEN WITH THEIR FAMILIES), FIRST STANNIS, THEN JOHN CONNIGTON AND LAST RANDY TARLY. AND EVEN KING ROBERT MATCH WITH THIS SO WE HAVE FIRST (THE STRONG MAN, WHO HOLDS A HAMMER, WOMANIZER WITH MANY DRINKING, LAUGH AND EATING) KING ROBERT, THEN SER THOROS AND DAARIO AND BRONN (ALL OF THEM WOMANIZERS WITH MANY DRINKING, LAUGH AND EATING) AND LAST PROBAPLY GENDRY (THIS ONE ONLY STRONG MAN WO HOLDS A HAMMER). THAT IS MY THEORY. WHAT DO YOU BOTH THINK MY GREAT LORD RAVEN AND YOUR MIGHTY GRACE?
Sullied by Knight,
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR VERY KIND WORDS SER SULLIED. I HOPE YOU ENJOYED THE READING. BECOUSE I LIKE HISTORY (AS A HOBBY) I ALWAYS SEARCH ITS CONNECTIONS WITH MARTIN SERIES. AND IF YOU SEARCH YOU WILL FIND INTERESTING RESULTS. THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR VERY GOOD AND ENCURAGING COMMMENTS. HAVE A VERY NICE GAME OF THRONES SEASON 6 WATCH.
I ALSO BELIEVE THAT OATHKEEPER EPISODE MAY REFER TO JAMIE, BRIENNE, WALDER FREY OR THE UMBERS. IF THE TITLE OF FOURTH EPISODE IS TRUE (THE BOOK OF STRANGER) IT MAY REFFERS TO MANY FACED GOD, TO A CHAPTER OF THE SEVEN POINTED STAR, OR TO SANDOR CLEGANE (MAY IF WE ARE LUCKY ENOUGH HAVE THE CLEGANEBOWL), OR TO LADY STONE HEART (PERSONALLY I AM NOT SO SURE ABOUT THAT). WHAT DO YOU THINK?
snake,
Interesting… I read half of it, then you started talking about the books a lot and I haven’t read the books.
I love Norse mythology. thank you for that.
Now that I think about it, I love the idea of Brienne going to
JustanotherSchemer,
So you and another poster thought it was such long text that you decide to quote the whole thing again just so that we have to scroll and scroll some more just for you to say “Jesus Christ” or “I’m not reading all that.” Lol. Anyways, I like some of the parallels.