Episode 251 – The Hounds
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Tansy and The Peach greet our well-worn travelers to the Stoney Sept, amidst rubble, disorder, and watered wine. In the North, a race to the Wall’s summit leads Jon’s companions to a chilly fate.
Discussion Topics
Great conversations
Defining moments
The Stoney Sept
In the Peach
A challenger approaches
Facing the Wall
Slippery ice
From the top
Owns of the Chapter
Listener Owns
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Guys. I was waiting for this all day so I could listen while I did boring stuff at work and it wasn’t there!! More than a week between GOO?? I can’t take it!!!
I don’t know if it’s a spoiler, because I seem to remember it being discussed on GOO before:
Lollius Palicanus,
Yea my own for this chapter goes to GRRMs Red Herrings. I’m sure they owned many of us on our first read.
I love Game of Owns. That said, I haven’t listened in months. Are they still doing book chapter discussions? I know they have to fill some time in the off season. I’m looking forward to the podcasts once the show starts back up.
In other news, I only just yesterday finished the commentary tracks for season 2 on blu-ray. LOL. I still have all of season three to listen to!
But first, I’m going to rewatch season 3 on blu-ray and then power watch season 4 on HBOGo. Then I’ll go back and listen to the commentary on season 3.
Fascinating, I know.
I predict that season 5 will be the most controversial and divisive season yet amongst fans. Quite frankly, I don’t even remember what happens in Feast and Dance. You guys here amaze me with the amount of detail you remember, especially when it comes to characters. I have no idea who most of these casting announcements are for.
Well, it’ll be fun watching as an Unsullied. But, I guess, we’re all kind of Unsullied now.
One thing that you didn’t mention but that’s worth noting in Arya’s chapter is that the members of the Brotherhood are as disgusted by what they see in the town, and that they note that their and lord Beric’s methods are different from Hunstman’s – although they are, just like him, killing people who commit atrocities against the smallfolk, their idea of justice is to execute those men by hanging, not to torture them and kill them slowly and gruesomely. When Anguy shot those men and put them out of their misery, it was an act of mercy, too, and the Huntsman’s men were as angry with him as with Arya for giving the men water.
Regarding the men in cages – while I’m sure that there are Robb’s men who commit atrocities, I don’t think that these guys could be considered Stark men at this point, since they are probably the men that Karstark sent to look for Jaime (it was mentioned that they were looking for the Kingslayer and were angry when they didn’t fin him).
A White Walker has never been seen south of the Wall in thousands of years – ever since the Wall was built. We’ve seen wights south of the Wall – when they were brought as dead bodies by the Night’s Watch members in book 1/season 1 – but never a White Walker. That makes me think that there is something in the Wall that’s stopping them, and that this may be the reason why it was built.
Maybe Ygritte should not be so sad that they didn’t manage to find the Horn – because I don’t think Mance would use it: if they brought down the Wall, maybe that would defeat the purpose of going south , since there would be no protection against the White Walkers? But then why did Mance want the Horn? Maybe just as a means to blackmail the Night’s Watch?
Coldhands couldn’t (wouldn’t?) go south of the Wall either. I always thought that the same “magic” that enables the wall to defy physics (as architected by Brandon the Builder and the CotF) also prevented the WWs from passing through it. I thought it was mentioned in passing in AGoT….but maybe it was an Old Nan tale.
Would Jaromir’s horn, if it exists, break that spell and cause the wall to be unstable AND allow the WWs free passage? I wonder.