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HBO has released a new batch of photos from the fourth episode of Game of Thrones season 6. This episode, titled “Book of the Stranger,” features the first season 6 sighting of Petyr “Littlefinger” Baelish.
Official episode synopsis: Tyrion (Peter Dinklage) strikes a deal. Jorah (Iain Glen) and Daario (Michiel Huisman) undertake a difficult task. Jaime (Nikolaj Coster-Waldau) and Cersei (Lena Headey) try to improve their situation.
Photos under the cut!
5/12: Updated with many more images from episode 4!
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hodor?
Wyllis!!
Kevan again! 😀
Nothing that interesting. Most are from the teaser.
I’m very excited to see Yara and Theon meet again.
More Varys and Olenna! I’m already content.
Why are there never photographs with Jon Snow BEFORE the diffusion of the episodes?
Pourquoi il n’y a jamais de photos avec Jon Snow AVANT la diffusion des épisodes ?
Good to see the weasel. ..ahem Littlefinger again.
Nothing we didn’t see in the preview.
Wow Dany really looks nice this season. Also it’s the first time in a while I am looking forward to her storyline!
No Sansa and Jon meeting ?
Dany and the DK priestess… I kinda liked her, after watching that Inside the Episode.
“Great” … with no pics of the north it means Sansa arriving at CB will happen in the last 2 min. of the episode and acliffhanger ending.
I want LF dead asap. Him and Ramsay
So excited for this! Hope to get to watch while in china!
and finally, Dany is gorgggggggggg
Zikas,
If that’s going to happen, I really doubt they’re going to show that in advance photos.
Yeah nothing of note from these pics as they’re all from the teaser. The more I see Olenna and Kevan together, the more I fear for my fave QoTs safety ?
Tyrion looks pretty boss in that last photo.
Also the reunion is probably the reason we don’t see any CB pics right now.
Hmm, Little Finger is in a greenish area. Wonder when his season promo pic with the snow will pop up.
Is this the end for sir Friendzone? I am guessing they get captured in this episode.
Robin Arryn looks much older now in the episode 4 trailer. It’s funny seeing him, Bran, and Rickon grown up now.
Hey the kid has been on the tit for so long it had to pay off eventually…. 🙂
They’re not giving much out about the Wall in these promos, stills, etc.
More Kevan. He’s one of my favourite minor characters, and they’ve done a good job with his few appearances since Season 5.
Captain Obvious satement of the day: Damn, Emilia is a fucking gorgeous woman!
Hawk,
LF looks worried. If he’s worried, I’m worried! I wonder who is on the horse behind him…in the green cape.
LOL that pic of Dany looking all prim and proper before she ***** all that **** up
I see GRRM has released another Arianne chapter excerpt from TWOW!
What kind of deal is tyrion gonna Strike? He literally Has nothing to do in meereen because meereenese plot Has the depht of a puddle. I would think with a captured son of harpy? With a sellsword captain? A volantene envoy? Or someone from astapor/yunkai? If so, It’s meant to fail the second they realize there’re no tamed dragons.
Apollo,
He read the chapter at a convention couple of years ago. It isn’t new.
Wow – Cersei is looking super-cracked out!
Why is it called “Book of the stranger” though??
Vale soldiers, I believe.
selena,
Game face on for sure.
In the preview it seemed like Yara was scolding Theon big time. Hope she eventually chills out and actually makes an emotional connection with him.
Yes and its full of excitement and things happening… NOT.
Its like the previous Arianne chapter, its her TRAVELING to JC.
The third chapter will be her TRAVELING on the boat to Storms End to find JC marching to KL. Fourth chapter will be about her TRAVELING to …. you get my point. Geroge RR Martin lost himself, we will first colonize Mars before he finishes the last book.
#thankgodforthetvshow
Book Sam finds at the Citadel with some ancient answers?
The episode 4 trailer showed him in the Vale with Robin and Royce.
Mihnea,
This one is new.
JP Dayne,
Judging from the trailers I guess we’ll meet the new red priestess.
Hoyti Von Totiy,
At that rate he’ll need at least 2 more books after WOW.
Understandable that Jon and Sansa aren’t in any of these photos, they want the reunion to be a surprise! Some people are convinced that Jon won’t be there when Sansa arrives, but I don’t see that happening. It’s obvious to me that he is still at Castle Black, figuring out what to do next, talking with Davos, Mel, Tormund probably and that is when Sansa arrives, and when we will get a reunion!
I am very curious on how they will react to seeing each other again after all that time and everything they have been through, and we never seen them together in the show so that will be very interesting.
GET HYPE!
Mihnea,
Ditto on the Greyjoy reunion.
Icewalker,
I read it years ago.
It’s the one they go into the cave and Ellia’s with a guy.
Sam won’t even be at the Citadel until the end of the season. They are going to Horn Hill first.
I believe the Tyrion deal will be with the
mainly because he needs to unite the people in Mereen to prevent an uprising, teased on the preview.
Also, no Sansa on the pics = boring.
No way, he still has to drop Gilly in Hornhill first.
Tycho Nestoris,
You think they will both put their names in the KM or will try to unite against Euron?
Connor,
well I know how I WANT it to play out…I want tears and bear hugs dammit..these are the first two starks to set eyes on each other since Ned’s death and it better be GOOD!!
No Euron?
Am I alone in being underwhelmed by the Tyrion/Varys duo? I thought they had so much potential together but I’m not feeling it so far. Lame eunich jokes falling flat left and right. Tyrion had his dragon whisperer scene and that was pretty awesome but Varys has been the more interesting, more intriguing, character of the two since they began traveling together. Any info on when/if Varys leaves Mereen?
Jack Bauer 24,
They don’t need to show everyone in the promo.
The Mereenese tailor has been doing a good job with Tyrion’s clothes.
Jack Bauer 24,
It guess they choose not to show the best parts of the episode 😛
I hope so!
I think that he will show up in the middle of Yara and Theon’s conversation, and sit on the Seastone chair like a boss, antagonizing them.
Booooring!! I need the Jansa asasp! 😆
Seriously, it’s nice to see LF. Good that they are setting up the Vale army. Filming spoilers Ep9
I’m interested in Lord Royce’s reaction to the whole situation and what LF will tell him about how Sansa ended up in Winterfell in the first place.
Also very excited for the Iron Islands. I’ve always liked Gemma as Yara, so it’s good to have her back and with Theon!
I do hope the Meereen story moves forward a bit faster. Otherwise it’s just Dink-fan-service (I mean, I take it, but it’s a bit obvious IMO).
JON AND SANSA PLEASE
THAT IS ALL I CARE ABOUT
Making the 8,
Nothing big happened in the first 3 episodes, mostly just settings thing up for the rest of the season.
But I kinda liked it. It’s the calm before the storm.
Yes even his girlfriend said so, even tough he thinks he can do it in 2 books.
In the first book Caitlyn just appeared in Kings Landing we didn´t need 5 chapters telling us in detail how she got there from Winterfell.
Wylie,
JANSA
I LOVE YOU
HAHAHa
Mihnea,
I just can’t see Theon doing anything other than backing Yara. I certainly don’t see him being a Vic substitute (in terms of his own desire to be King). I also don’t see Damphair championing Theon as a godly man.
My thoughts exactly!
Joffrey’s Cunt,
”Salt throne” That’s how Yara called it in EP2.
Ok I admit I didn’t look what episode that would be. What are your theories?
Jack Bauer 24,
Joffrey’s Cunt,
Old habits.
Tycho Nestoris,
I highly doubt Aeron will do anything. I don’t see him being more then just a background character.
Joffrey’s Cunt,
I know, don’t worry… 🙂
Mihnea,
You thinking
wins though, right?
Well like you suggested, that name could have something to do with WWs but I have no idea what it might be. Maybe another vision from Bran?
Making the 8,
Mihnea,
My bad. I thought that only one Arianne chapter got released.
Tycho Nestoris,
Of course.
Hoyti Von Totiy,
without him the show wouldn’t exist #ThankgodforGeorgerrMartin.
Actually Salt Throne sounds better. Gives it more power, since it’s an actual throne and not a chair.
Icewalker,
Nope there were 2. The first she is still in Dorne…..
The 2nd one, this, she reached Griffin’s Roost and at the end decides to go to Storm’s End…..
There is no way in hell he will finish the story in 2 more books, if this is how the rest of the novel is paced.
meh
I am getting quite nervous about all the things happening this season and how they are going to fit it all in. We’re already at ep 4 and just the stuff we know from filming spoilers and trailers would easily fit into the last 6 episodes. Especially knowing that the bulk of ep 9 will be devoted to one particular location. I trust them, I do, but I still worry.
Also, I can’ damn wait until we get to the Riverlands. Other than the North and Braavos, it’s the main thing I am looking forward to this season. The rest of you can have Meereen and King’s Landing and Vaes Dothrak and the Iron Islands and Dorne(lol). I am living for the story lines in those 3 locales.
Just read it- totally agree. Looks like TWOW is gonna be yet another snoozefest… Arianne and Sansa chapters have been unbelievably dull.
Joffrey’s Cunt,
And besides in S2 when Theon gets his baptize the priest says ”bless him with salt…”
Dee,
Hehe, it’s the best thing since the real life Mophie! Let’s cherish it ! 😀
Mihnea,
That’s way down the road though.
This is Cersei’s I choose violence I think.
Shes looks psycho already
That shot of Jaime and Cersei is literally a still from the promo.
And Jesus Christ, Varys, those are a lot of layers. How hasn’t he died from the heat yet 😛
Apollo,
I couldn’t finish the Sansa one. It wasn’t bad….just boring….
A giant Lemon cake…..Seriously..?
Wylie,
I CANT WAIT
God knows I need it hahaha
Exactly.
Being Game of Thrones i could totally see them miss each other… that would make sense.
If they do meet and hug… i am so going to cry haha.
I love the books, I really do. I gotta wonder, though: what is it with Martin and his endless travelogues?
I’d never read this chapter so it’s new to me. Agree that this story is never gonna wrap up in two more books. GRRMs editors need to seriously have a word with this guy 🙁
Mihnea,
Possible filming spoilers
I think Littlefinger will have one scene this episode. The one thing I want is more than one Bran scene in an episode, I hope we will have more of him and 3-Eyed Raven this episode. After all this episode is 59 minutes, the longest episode so far.
Apollo,
GRRM completely lost his plot. The books are beyond redemption.
Don’t even get me started on that chapter! 😉
Looks like another political/slow building episode. I’m all for that….provided it also includes a Jon and Sansa meeting. 😀
I still refer to Olenna as “Ya Ya Tyrell” in honour of the dearly departed GOT videos by Byron & Dino.
Mr Fixit,
Somewhere along the way GRRM started to feel that worldbuilding was more important than plot or story.
Dee,
Are you by any chance Dee from denden forums?
Harry,
I am expecting them to miss each other
buttttt like you, if they do meet, I will CRY A LOT
all of us will
Yeah still no NK, WW, Bronn, Freys, Lancel, Loras, “I choose violence”, Drogon, Kingsmoot, Horn Hill, Citadel, more ToJ, etc. We still have a lot to cover in the next 7 episodes. When you say 6 episodes left are you not including Episode 4? There’s 7 episodes left.
Motherofmadness,
No!
hahaha
what is that?
Don’t forget this is the first beefy episode of the season clocking in at 59 minutes.
Tycho Nestoris,
I will write a bit of how i think this will go. I love doing this!
Will put spoiler tags as it has info from the books.
Yara is the realist one and says she understands while they don’t want to go to the end of the world for a story.
Theon on the other end quickly brings up the idea that he and Yara, who is the captain of the Iron fleet go to Meereen and get Dany while Euron takes Oldtown/Highgarden. On the ship Yara questions why they do this for Euron, why do they bring him Dany. Theon replies that they won’t bring her to him.
Perhaps they’ll cut the Reach part and have scene be on the II.
Hope you enjoyed. And I’m looking ahead to see how wrong I was! 🙂
I wish Tyrion would have taken the black and gone to the wall instead of going to Mereen. Mereen is almost as bad as Dorne in my opinion.
I predict two big things next episode:
(no spoilers, just what I think)
1. Jon and Sansa reuniting
2. Dany burning all the Khals
I am looking forward to both.
Also…. I really hope Meereen’s story actually moves forward next episode. Maybe something with the harpies, or with the dragons.
mau,
Sadly this. Scrapping the 5-year timeskip really hurt him. He simply lost control of the narrative.
Mihnea,
“Perhaps there’s no girl and he isn’t naked” lol. I like it but I think they’ll cut The Reach too. Get me on the open ocean asap!
I am more looking forward to this reunion than Jon and Sansa’s (blasphemy I know).
Well there’s no Victarian so either way… if Yara wins or Euron… the loser will be sent to Essos to woo Daenery’s
Dee,
If I don’t see a Jon-Sansa meeting this Sunday I’ll just tear all my hair out and check into the local asylum.
That lemon cake was GRRM giving the book fans “the finger” the same way he gave South Park directors “the finger” when he put up the Mercy chapter right after the South park episode mocking him about his obsession with floppy weiners.
To remind you, Mercy chapter had Arya trying to tuck in the dwarfs giant floppy fake weiner in his pants.
I think that Sansa and Jon will not meet for several episodes. I think that next episode Sansa is back in the Vale (look at the trailer, there’s no snow where she’s at). I think her next couple of episodes will be focussed on her becoming a leader. Around episode 7 she will left the Vale with an army. I can be wrong but this is what I think will happen with Sansa the next couple of episodes, she will stay at the Vale.
As for Jon I think his journey the next couple of episodes (I think he will be absent in episode 4) will be something with convicing the northern Lords and finding Shireens Pyre around episode 7.
Then it’s a guess when Jon and Sansa will meet, before, after or during the B-Bowl.
And episode 6×04 is the first time I’m excited about Dannereys since season 3.
A scene was filmed with Sam, Gilly and a maester in the streets of Oldtown (Girona), wasn’t there? Horn Hill is in-land. First they’ll arrive in Oldtown. The Citadel, though, sure; not until Sam returns from Horn Hill, probably.
Tycho Nestoris,
Oh interesting idea! They could be on the open sea
Hoyti Von Totiy,
It’s silly either way.
Don’t remind me about the dwarf
So did Theon find Littlefinger’s teleporter?
He managed to get out of the North alone and back to the Iron Islands in two episodes?
JP Dayne,
My thinking: Red Priestess
Mihnea,
Don’t give me credit! That’s your idea. I was just saying I wanna see some boats and ocean. Make the decision in the captain’s quarters by candlelight, maybe…muh haha.
Mihnea,
I don’t know about Areon being a background character. Remember, he’s one of Cogmans favorourite characters from the books, he’s been looking forward to write him. There was a lot of focus on The Drowned God in the Iron Islands introduction this season, as there is a lot of focus on religion in the show as a whole at the moment. Michael Feast is an established actor and Aeron looks so fucking cool in the show. He was even briefly glimpsed in the trailer, pushing Eurons head into the water. I think he’s gonna be more than a background character. He’s gonna be an important supporting character to that subplot. Maybe I’m just hoping, and I am, but from the introduction he seemed pretty important. Definitively not Euron-level-important, but say like Mathos Seaworth to the Dragonstone-arc or The Spice King to the Qarth-subplot. Someone who does not carry the weight of the story, but is a manifested example of the culture or situation in which the story takes place.
kevin,
Episode 6×04 is also the first time that I am excited for Daenerys. We know some big shit is going on with her in this episode, and from some filming spoilers back in September, there should be a big fire this episode and a possible Drogon sighting! i think Drogon is going to come back in a big way this season.
Either way, I’m most excited for Dany’s storyline this episode! Alot is going to get covered, hopefully.
Portman (Pod) was hyping them at CB on his IG.
Damphairintheshowplease!,
Perhaps. We shall see soon enough though.
I still don’t think he’ll play big part.
I’m thinking this might be for episode 6 “Blood of My Blood” instead.
kevin,
There is tons of snow behind Sansa, Brienne and Pod in the preview for episode 4, and it’s heavily snowing as well. Besides they already said in episode 2 that they were heading to Castle Black. Unless Jon has already left (where would he have gone so fast and why ?), we are getting a Stark reunion on Sunday.
Zish,
yes two episodes and probably 2 weeks in time. Remember not everything is chronological. Jon story in the first 3 episodes was 48 hours, max. Arya’s story covers around a week (episode 3 is multiple days, everyday she has the same training)
Same is with Sansa in episode 4, she arrives in the Vale. so probably 2 weeks has past with her story.
Daegon,
After 2 seasons where she’s doing almost nothing exciting things gonna get serious right now. 😀 I’m not saying I hate her story in the last 2 season because they are important for the overall story of the show, but still season 6 is her season.
I have the feeling the episode could be about reunions or meeting again. We should have:
-the Jansa
-Theon and Yara
-Marg and Loras
-Daeny and Jaario
-Lf back in the Vale (strectch)
and maybe a new meeting with Varys, Tyrion and Kinvara…
Isnt this episode supposed to be longer than the other ones? I hope that they wont skip the wall with jon and co. for this episode, its the most interesting part of the season atm.
I think that’s a perfect way to describe it. Mihnea, he isn’t saying Aeron will play a big part; but he will be a sort of representative for the ironborn culture in the kingsmoot scenes. He will probably officiate the ceremony, and in the trailer we see he also baptizes Euron. That will be his role at least. I wouldn’t be surprised if he also had a few scenes with Yara and Euron, so that Yara can have a scene partner to denounce Euron and viceversa.
By the way, predictions for the next episode:
No Jon Snow or Castle Black – we have had a consecutive 3 episodes in this area, in which it took up the most screentime in each episode as well. Not complaining, its great stuff, but there are other storylines to focus on as well.
Iron Islands – emotional return of Theon. Also guessing that we will see some more of Euron. Then, things will set up for the kingsmoot, which I’m guessing is in episode 5.
Vaes Dothrak: Probably the most screentime this episode, and its about due time, because we’ve only had like a total of 10-ish minutes of Dany this season. Im guessing there will be that big meeting with the Khals, deciding what to do with Dany. Something really bad will happen, like she is to be executed or something. So, in self defense, she burns the place down. Jaario will be in the mix as well, but honestly guys, I think this could be Jorah’s last episode. And to top it all off, Drogon will come to the fire, and the DOthraki will see him as the Stallion who Mounts the World, and Dany will be their new leader.
Mereen: the pictures above are interesting. It shows Tyrion outdoors, with Unsullied. Maybe releasing dragons? Sons of the Harpy confrontation?
Kings Landing: More talking….
Wylie,
Are we set on Jansa? Jonsa or Sonsa or Sonja, anyone? Anyone? Bueller?
Does Jon even know what happened at Winterfell? if not then it would make sense that he reunites with Sansa so he has a reason to try to take it back.. If he already knows then I can imagine him missing Sansa.
By the way, we know Thoros of Myr is returning this season.. any thoughts on why? LSH? .. I can’t imagine any other reason he would need to be returning to the season other than for something like that.
kevin,
She is not going to be in the Vale next episode lol. She is at Castle Black, they even stated more than once that she is going to Castle Black with Brienne and Podrick, in the promo video it shows them at the gates of Castle Black.
Markus Stark,
I watched the trailer again, and you’re right, my bad. I think I focused to much on LF. Still I don’t think the reunion is in this episode. Remember Jon walked out at the end of episode 3. Wouldn’t be surprised if the writers toy with us and Jon has already left CB with Mellisandre and Co, and sansa will follow his trail.
Watch the preview for next episode. There will be Castle Black. There’s also a promotional picture of Davos in Castle Black in this episode that’s been available for many weeks now, if not months.
No he didn’t. He walked from one courtyard to the other. He didn’t actually leave Castle Black. You agree Davos and Melisandre would only leave with Jon, right? Well, there’s a promo picture of Melisandre in episode five, leaving. So this coming episode she’s still in Castle Black, which means so is Jon. And we know Sansa arrives. So they do meet.
Daegon,
But Castle Black is in the next episode lol. In the promo video on youtube it shows Sansa, Brienne and Podrick 2.0 at the gates of Castle Black lol.
We are getting a Jansa reunion! Like Wylie said lol.
This episode is 59 minutes. We don’t need to skip the Wall.
Hoyti Von Totiy,
Having finished all the books and now returning to A Game of Thrones, you can clearly notice how GRRM has slowly lost his way and the quality of his writing has dropped noticeably after the third book.
Luka Nieto,
Perhaps.
I’m not against, just don’t see it happening. But seeing that Cogman liked the character perhaps they’ll focus on him a bit more.
Why is LF back in the Vale a stretch?
Lonald,
I can’t imagine any other reason he would need to be returning to the season other than for something like that.
Just because they arrive at Castle Black doesn’t mean Jon will still be there.. but most likely it will happen. I remember reading that someone said that isn’t the doors at Castle Black, but I compared the doors with a promo photo of Jon standing with them in the background, it most certainly is CB.
We didn’t say the show would “focus” on him. Anyway, what is it that don’t you see happening? Because neither he or I said anything particularly controversial, I think. You don’t believe he’ll officiate the kingsmoot, as he did Balon’s funeral? You don’t believe it’s him who we saw in the trailers baptizing Euron? You don’t believe he’ll interact with Yara or Euron at all?
Tycho Nestoris,
SONJA The Amalgam Character That Was Promised (in 1985)
Wylie,
I think that Lord Royce looks pissed at LF. Is it my impression?
Lonald,
IMHO, I don’t think this is castle black. The terrain behind it shows close rocks, and the doors seem a bit off. I may be wrong, but I wouldn’t be surprised if it wasn’t castle black.
Wylie,
There you go:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXfVp6WXE5M
dothrakian raven,
I thought so too. He does not look very amused…
More of Sam. A lot of Daenerys, Jorah and Daario, more of Meereen. This is gonna be a snoozefest.
And LOL The big plot twist is out and they’re still adamant on holding back any Jon promo. Don’t have to show anything spoilery, just a photo in similar fashion to the other ones would suffice.
No one complained about the giant lance?
No Jon or Sansa?
Cersei sure looks wild eyed. That can’t be good, lol.
Lonald,
Where would Jon go? He will need to gain his thoughts and talk with Davos, Mel and Tormund on where to go next. He won’t just leave right away, where would he go? He is still at Castle Black for sure and Sansa will arrive and they will talk as well.
Wylie,
She’s got the hair. He’s got the sword.
Edit: This sounds like a song verse in my head.
I’m really starting to freak out that we won’t get to see the ToJ reveal this season. Someone please assure me that’s not going to happen lol.
I think Sam/Gilly skip this one.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but we’re looking to only 6 storylines this week
-The Eyrie (and it will probably be a quick check-up)
-Meereen
-Vaes Dothrak
-Castleblack
-Pyke
-King’s Landing
For a 59 minute episode wow. I think we can expect major developments
Luka Nieto,
Well when you put it like that. I think you 2 may be right.
Still waiting for a promo picture of Jonny to use as my background. Come on, HBO!
Flayed Potatoes,
We will get it this season, I am thinking episode 5 for sure. I doubt they will wait until Season 7, I think Bran will be leaving the cave near the end of this season.
Well on the door they open for Sansa you see a board that runs across both doors… but on the left door there is another piece of wood above it .. probably from a repair ..
Now look at this photo of the doors: https://static01.nyt.com/images/2016/05/08/arts/television/08thrones2/08thrones2-master675.jpg
In the teaser video you can see that same board on the left for just a moment.. so to me it’s pretty clear that those are the doors to castle black.
kevin,
If Sansa and Company go anywhere other than Castle Black, they will go to a friendly Northern House but not the Vale. The Vale isn’t near the North and there’s no snow in the Vale yet, winter has not arrived. Little Finger, Robin and Lord Yohn Royce are in the Vale and by the previews you can see it is very green and certainly not cold where they are. Whereas Sansa, Brienne and Pod are in a cold place.
Was older Lyanna cast?
Tycho Nestoris,
Or an intro for a spin-off! 😀
GrailKing,
Hmm? I don’t remember anything like that. What was it?
Who fixed the CB gate? Wun Wun knocked the right side completely off.
I’m wondering, do people actually read some of these comments before dropping their questions on here. Come on, like 20 people have said Castle Black will be in this episode, and there’s still people asking about it.
Flayed Potatoes,
We know there will definitely be an interior scene at TOJ. It’s been confirmed by a few sources. We also have that ‘young stunner’ casting call.
Wylie,
I am choking on chortles in the my very silent office.
Anthony Salcono,
You are not wrong.
Mihnea,
No Jon snow = Boring episode
Jack Bauer 24,
I bet that Jon will be in all 10 eps, ok maybe 9 but no less. So E4 we will have the reunion…
Jack Bauer 24,
Wun Wun broketh, Wun Wun fixeth.
Jack Bauer 24,
I don’t think there were any news on an older Lyanna casting.
I may be wrong though. Who do you think could have been casted as an older Lyanna?
That image I shared is a scene after Jon was resurrected and had just walked outside.. so obviously the gate had been repaired… Obviously they must have done it quickly 🙂
Connor,
It makes sense for Bran to travel south during the off-season. We don’t want a repeat of season 4.
Jack Bauer 24,
Someone mentioned a “young stunner” being cast. But all the GoT women are stunners 😛
Icekhione,
Thank you! I just hope they don’t troll us by
Jack Bauer 24,
Yes.
Flayed Potatoes,
Yeah but, going by the trailers I think it will happen, Meera is in a snowy forest far from the cave being saved by the mysterious hooded rider killing a wight with a flaming ball on a chain, and the shot of the Night’s King and a couple of White Walkers and the army of wights behind them looks a lot like the outside of the Weirwood cave.
I think they will leave the cave this season, but towards the very end like episode 8, 9 or 10 even. Who knows, we shall find out soon.
He looked pissed off to me, like really pissed.
The body language looks awfully cozy between Deny and the Dothraki Priestess. I’m very intrigued! So much potential here…
Flayed Potatoes,
That’s not going to happen xD
“Tyrion (Peter Dinklage) strikes a deal.”
– A deal with a wholesale wine merchant that is!
“Jorah (Iain Glen) and Daario (Michiel Huisman) undertake a difficult task.”
– It’s not like there’s a pharmacist who stocks greyscale anti-itch ointment around every corner on the way to Vaes Dothrak. And when you finally do find one they’re usually on their lunch break.
“Jaime (Nikolaj Coster-Waldau) and Cersei (Lena Headey) try to improve their situation.”
– No doubt by having great sex right before watching their only surviving child die right in front of them. Or vice versa.
I absolutely dislike Tyrion storyline. It’s completely forced there. He should have drop from the sight after season 4 and take a break for 2 seasons, appearing in season 7 or something.
It’s just dull with him.
Ramsay is hated by almost everyone(including me) but at least he keeps audience on their toes every time he appears on screen.
I wish he would rather release a chapter from someone interesting or someone more important. Like for example the Bran chapter that was moved from ADWD to TWOW.
It is funny how many people believed that Jon just walked out of the gate at Castle Black. He clearly did not walk out of the front gate. They obviously want people to believe that there will be another missed Stark reunion.
This will certainly be the part that I am most looking forward to within this episode.
Dany/ Emilia is really looking gorgeous this season. Other than the pictures of Yara and Theon finally meeting up again, it does seem as if they provided the most inconspicuous/ boring pictures.
Connor,
Yes 🙂 I hope this is the case. I was very happy when Bloodraven told Bran he won’t be a man in a tree.
mau,
lol Bloodraven better not troll us again.
Anon,
I loved Fouaress’ performance. She was imposing and ambiguous and what a sculptured face!
Jorah the Explorer next episode finally, curious to see what he and his “pal” Daario will be up to in order to save Dany.
Could Jorah finally break out of the friendzone before he turns into the Thing this season? Let’s find out.
Connor,
I don’t think Sansa and Jon will cross paths. She has never interacted with him on screen, that I can recall. What would be the emotional appeal, for the audience, of these two meeting?
It would be very powerful for Jon and Arya to meet…a little less powerful for Jon and Bran to meet….but not Sansa.
I’m afraid these two may be like ships passing in the night.
dothrakian raven,
Yes! She was great…a face with power.
Except that Jon vs Ramsay will be in episode 9 and Sansa will have a part in uniting some of the Northern forces. They will eventually see each other whether it is episode 4 or 9. So…
Anon,
-_- They will though.
I’m for some reason BUMMED about this upcoming episode, most of these story lines interest me not much at all… Hopefully episode 5 will come through for me.. Got spoiled with Jon rez, ToJ, etc etc..
Boudica,
yeah dunno why anyone would assume Jon was walking out of CB in that scene. The gate is visible on the opposite side, with Jon walking away from it. He’s walking into the tunnel. Theentrace/exit to Castle Black has no tunnel. It’s clear he’s going inside. People pay little attention to what’s on screen.
Not sure to be honest 😀
Icekhione,
I think it was the line (my watch has ended). People don’t usually hang around after the mic drops.
They abandoned the Eyrie at the end of season four. Lord Robin was left in Runestone, to be fostered by Lord Yohn Royce 😉
Luka Nieto,
So we are really getting Jon and Sansa in next episode 😀
I thought the “young stunner” was young Lyanna?
Anon,
I think a reunion with Jon and Sansa can be very powerful. First Sansa doesn’t like Jon a bit, because Jon is a bastard that doesn’t mean that she didn’t love him deep down. But Sansa evolved as a human being the last 5 seasons after everything she’s been through. Personally I think it will be a very powerful scene, same with a reunion of Sansa and Arya.
I don’t know how anybody could be bummed for a NEW episode. Remember that during the 10 month off season.
Jack Bauer 24,
I suppose they could meet under dire circumstances, which would bind them together – sort of the way Theon was bound to Sansa by the assault and escape. I think Arya and Sansa meeting will be VERY powerful.
I feel like the young stunner has to be an older Lyanna. What other new female character is going to be introduced this season that isn’t a Red Priestess, relatives of Sam, or the Dosh Khaleen? The prostitute slave that Yara will hook up with? One of the women in the theater troupe?
Sansa /Allayne’s
“It’s Clobberin’ For Khaleesi Time!!!” 😉
From http://gameofthrones.wikia.com/wiki/The_Seven-Pointed_Star:
So “The Book of the Stranger,” like “The Book of the Maiden,” is in the literal sense one of the books from The Seven-Pointed Star in reference to the aspect of the Seven’s Stranger.
kevin,
There’s no proof whatsoever that Sansa disliked Jon. She didn’t adore him the way Arya did and she did not share a friendship with him as deep as his friendships with Rob, Bran and Rickon but they got along just fine. They used to all play together and Sansa even taught him how to compliment girls. Sansa was simply a bit snobbish and very lady like, she was most likely as alooff with her true born brothers as she was with Jon.
Mihnea,
Find Sarella and Marwyn! #pleasepleaseplease
I wouldn’t mind Bran having visions with babies Jon, Robb, and Sansa. That would be the cutest thing. <3
Not to mention anything involving Euron that goes beyond the Kingsmoot, Yara and presumably Theon getting to at least Volantis, as shown in the trailer smooch, the new(?) BWB, whoever Ian McShane is, 3 major and 2 minor characters all convening in the Riverlands by season’s end, there is a lot to get through!
I was not counting ep 9 for reasons stated – I think it will be mostly BB-centric.
Ginevra,
+1 pig boy
And dance, I think, and the siblings talk about how Sansa ran from the crypts as Robb and Jon played a joke on them all.
some people need it hammered into them, subtle hints don’t work.
Just like Sansa remembering the snowball scene and her and Arya on the ground laughing, all they remember is the inn at Darry.
Thanks for that. But I’m still intrigued of what will it mean in this episode.
I don’t think Arya/Sansa will ever meet again.
My guess it’s him saying adios to Varys, who is leaving Meereen after having met with the Red Priestess…
The HYPE is high! And Episode 10 will have a spectacular LSH-LF reunion 😉
For the time until HBO will finally satisfy your needs, here you go:
Jon Snow Desktop Backgrounds
Danny,
That’s what I meant, sorry I’m not a native English speaker, so somethimes I know what I want to say but don’t know how to write it. I meant that it looks like Sansa dislike Jon, because of her snobbish behavior, but I think deep down she loves him. And that’s why I think the reunion will be powerful, because we are going to see a side of their relation that we have never seen before.
Flayed Potatoes here’s Kit for the May edition of Vogue Italia
https://www.instagram.com/p/BFSAU59y_D7/
Never gonna happen. I think at this point if she were to see Daario she would gush that he was okay and look over at Jorah like, oh you again. She never really cared for him like he did her and then he betrayed her (in her eyes). Tough to move into anything at this point except for the small steps back to the friendship they used to share, never mind moving out of friendzone. Just my thoughts.
Ok, by the synopsis and the photos this looks like a very boring episode to me. I am sure it will not be the case though.
Aren’t we all?
I’m thinking that there will need to be at least one reference to the literal book for all to get the title, and perhaps we’ll get some details about this Stranger, as well, who represents death, the unknown, and very frightful stuff. Could that mean that we get a bit of creepy horror in this episode? Yes, since we get some of that in just about every episode, but perhaps even more so here.
And then there are the regular strangers. Euron both is and is not a stranger, and his ship Silence is eerily similar to the Silent Sisters who worship the Stranger. Theon also both is and isn’t a stranger. And then there is the horse, Stranger. I’m doubting we’ll get him this early, though.
+1,000 and unfortunately that waiting time is going to be here again all too soon. 🙁 Ten weeks go by so fast. While I love the anticipation of Sunday approaching…it comes very fast and then we are at the half way point to the season next week. TOO DAMNED FAST. And look at what has happened in just three episodes, jam packed full of great stuff. I have high hopes for this Sunday.
Remember all, that almost every actor interviewed said that season six was going to blow us all away and so far, it has done so to my expectations. I guess they didn’t lie. For once. 😉
Ooo, the Kitliner is back! And some mascara, too, I see.
Reading some comments, it seems like people just want wiki summaries of anything that doesn’t involve a 2 second payoff….
Didn’t take Theon very long to get back to Pyke lol!
Green Chili,
Thank you!
Thank you! I’ll go look for the rest of the pictures!
The High Sparrow talks to Tommen about everyone deserving death in one of the trailers. I think he may be quoting from this Book of the Stranger. After all, the Stranger is the aspect of the Seven-Faced God that deals with death. So I think we’ll get to see the High Sparrow further manipulating Tommen and, as we see in the promo, even Margaery agreeing to admit her sins before the city.
Watchers of no Trailers,
He payed the “iron price” for Littlefinger’s teleporter.
Book of the Stranger is really one of the most intriguing titles we’ve ever had
Me too. I will be very sad when Diana Rigg’s run on the show ends. Hoping that Olenna gets to pull some terrific coup or double-cross before she keels over. Not that ridding the Seven Kingdoms of Joffrey was any small achievement, but she didn’t get to take public credit for it!
Don’t you enjoy travel? I loved the chapter, and the descriptions of the rainwood and especially the caves were fantastic!
I agree that their banter has not been particularly scintillatingly written so far this season. I suspect that somebody decided that a weekly eunuch joke was mandatory after audiences responded well to the cock merchant interlude. But Tyrion can do way better than that!
My reaction exactly while I was reading Book 5. At Book 5 level of detail, not to mention Book 5 level of addition of characters and threads, it will need more than 2 volumes to complete the tale after Book 5.
The writing itself has become the purpose, rather than telling a story from beginning to end.
I don’t care for it. Sounds like something that would melt from the coastal humidity. Plus, I keep picturing it being shaped like Lot’s wife from the Bible…
(^ц^ )
Maybe I’m wrong, but I honestly think that they might be setting up more of the backstory of Varys losing his penis as a child. Judging by the look on Kinvara’s face and Varys’ consternation, I get the feeling that she may know a thing or two about what happened to him…
Wylie,
Couldn’t edit my comment for whatever reason. I was refering to the trailer, where we see Varys and Kinvara interacting.
Considering that she was only 16 when she died, they could very well be using the same actress for child-Lyanna and adult-Lyanna. Easy enough to age a teen actor up or down a few years with clothes and makeup.
IMDb’s new Sansa photo for Stranger is … interesting. In an anachronistic, not-so-much-Sansa sort of way. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4283016/?ref_=tt_ep_nx
Jorah!!
Except that Ned is clearly much older looking. Lyanna should be comparably older looking, and perhaps more so: if she’s just given birth and is bleeding to death, then she will look years older than she really is.
There was a casting call for a “young stunner” or something cast in a horribly sexist sounding phrase of that ilk, which most of us assumed to be Lyanna. But I do not think we ever read who was cast for that.
I doubt that it will be backstory per se, but I suspect that we might learn that the voice Varys heard was good old R’hllor.
Ginevra,
I don’t see a new photo? Unless you mean the screencap of her, Brienne, and Pod from the ep 4 preview that they put up? I don’t see anything anachronistic about it. She’s dressed the same as we last saw her.
In the Alayne chapters in the books, when Sansa is pretending to be Petyr’s “natural child,” she develops a compassion for bastards that hadn’t really occurred to her before, and she finds herself thinking about Jon a lot.
Wimsey,
Yes, that might be just it!
Jon and Sansa reunion
Theon and Yara reunion
Quick check-in with LF and Vale
Meereen with Tyrion meeting representatives from overthrown Slaver’s Bay, maybe Harpy news
Kings Landing politics, setup for “I choose violence”. I expect a checkin with Sand Snakes in KL. Margaery and Loras check-in.
Big scene in Vaes Dothrak (about time). Hopefully a lot of Dany screentime and Jaario.
can’t wait!
I expect you’re right, but wouldn’t it make a cool scene if Dany were to change her mind about Jorah after, say, Daario betrayed her and Jorah saved her? Imagine her telling him that he’s the guy for her after all, and then him having to draw back from her attempt to hug him and show her the greyscale? Can’t let her be the object of his infections!
Hope you’re right, that there is some point to it all besides pandering to the segment of the audience whose sense of humor went into suspended animation at about age 8.
Varys’ description of the spell cast with his parts did sound quite creepy. I wonder if the results will have some story significance besides making Varys magic-averse and child-friendly.
Ned went from being played in the flashback by Sebastian Croft (age 13 at the time of filming) to Robert Aramayo (age 23). No way would they be using the same actress to play Lyanna, particularly since show!Lyanna looked older than show!Ned.
Exactly. But Theon can make it to the Iron Islands in less time. Go figure.
If Lyanna had been cast, is it 100% true that this site would’ve found out?
I just don’t see how they could cut away from that scene with such an obvious cliffhanger, to not return to it.
No of course not. Things get by us. They used code names for all the characters in casting notices (like “Young Stunner”), and there were closed sets for a lot of things.
Has there been any speculation as to what will keep Brienne from going berserker on Mel, after her shadow magic killed Renly? Or is she not supposed to know that Mel has creepy magic powers and worked for Stannis?
I think he used fast travel.
Direwolf Lvr,
She had her justice/revenge, didn’t she. Also, she’s not really in a position to start killing the person who just brought Jon back to life.
Aidan is hot af.
Daario: “What’cha thinkin’ bout, Jorah?”
Jorah: “Killing you where you stand.”
Daario: “But we’re laying down.”
Jorah: “…….”
I think regardless of how close Jon and Sansa were as children, their reunion is going to be a big damn deal, whether it’s this Sunday or later in the season. It’s the first time any Starks have been together since Bran and Rickon split up in S2.
Also, Sansa and Jon definitely loved each other (if you read the books you know). They didn’t have a particularly close relationship, and she could be snobbish, but there are multiple instances where they think fondly of each other.
Well, there are always people who like characters and storylines developing, and people who prefer things just happening and Hardhome-style action with zombie hordes and lots of things exploding or getting killed… 😉
Dutch Maester,
Good point. I suppose she would just have to swallow her distaste for it.
If it happens in this episode (and it very well might) there’s no way HBO would release those images before the episode airs.
Ginevra,
Strange, the credits list has Kit absent. IMDb is not very reliable most of the time, but dunno. It will be awful to make him sit it out after that ending of E03. And Edd, Sansa, Pod and Brienne are all credited. So there will be some CB action.
I don’t think Brienne knows anything about Mel being able to produce “shadow demons” as Davos calls it.
When I’d refreshed, it was gone, too. I figure it was a mistake or fan trolling or something. Regardless, it was fixed so quickly that I tried deleting my comment, being irrelevant, but I did take a screenshot of what was there for me, for thirty seconds or so at least.
Hoyti Von Totiy, The last shot of the episode is probably them at the gate.
Sue the Fury,
thanks for letting me know 🙂
<blockquote cite="comment-603445"Jack Bauer 24: Robin Arryn looks much older now in the episode 4 trailer. It’s funny seeing him, Bran, and Rickon grown up now.
Yeah, why aren’t the producers doping these kids with coffee and cigarettes to keep them small and young looking?!?!?
Ayman,
A Beatles reunion would have been cool….
Alternatively, we could assume that, crazy as it sounds, multiple weeks elapsed….
Emma,
Bran and Rickon split up in Season 3.
Except that only 14 year olds would call her a “stunner.” I’m betting that they mean someone that is a few years older with that description.
I’ve read the books, and, no, I don’t know that. Sansa never thinks of Jon, and is surprised to remember him when she does. Given that she is much more Catelyn’s daughter than Ned’s daughter, it would not be surprising if she shares he mother’s disapproval of Jon. However, because Sansa never thinks of Jon, it’s hard to be certain!
Jon thinks of Robb, Arya, Bran and Rickon: but almost never Sansa. He does assert that Winterfell is Sansa’s by right: but that is loyalty to Jon’s father, not love for Sansa. Given Catelyn’s hatred of Jon, it would make sense if he generally stayed away from Sansa.
I refuse to hype. The thing I was looking forward to most this season was Ramsay finding out his playthings split, but they didn’t show it. I’m picturing the storyboard as a shot of the trio at the gate. Next frame, Sansa, Jon, etc. sitting by the fire sipping tea and Sansa says
Brienne saw her with a man but she disappeared.
Jon: How do you know it was her?
Brienne: She had a little sword called Needle.
Jon: squeeeee
I don’t know, she might have been able to put two and two together. She knows the shadow had Stannis’s face, and before she executed him she accused him of killing his brother with “blood magic.” If she gets to the Wall and cops to the fact that Mel performed some pretty trippy magic with Jon, well then there you go. Not that I think she would necessarily DO anything about it, but I think there’s a slight possibility for some Brienne/Davos/Mel conflict somewhere in there.
dragonmcmx,
Those are his traveling robes.
I sincerely feel bad for Theon. I would love for his sister to have his back, and get him back in good with the Ironborn. That way, he could redeem himself.
I’m also curios where Jon is headed.
Nope, watching Varys sail away.
Wylie:
-SanJon
-Thara
-Larg
-Dorah
-Peyohn
-Red Vyrion
Ginevra,
The dress code has really changed in the north! 🙂
dothrakian raven, I’m dying to know what makes Yohn’s face drop.
The setting up for a Jon-Sansa meeting in the books too? Hopefully in WOW itself!
Flayed Potatoes, I’m sure it will be obvious. I’m expecting it to look like this:
http://data.whicdn.com/images/7619554/large.jpg
There are only 6 storylines this episode and the Vale one will probably be a short scene. In that case, I expect a good chunk of time to be dedicated to the Wall. Sansa will arrive somewhere in the first half of the episode and we will see a proper Jon-Sansa meeting !! Atleast I hope 🙂 .
Look again above for my evidence that Sansa indeed is arriving at CB… I give visual evidence… it is irrelevant that the giant Wun Wun tore down the door… the shows it in a subsequent seen in-tact AND you see the same door patterns in Sansa’s arrival as the CB door… either they re-used the set for her going somewhere else and were careless.. or it was her showing up at castle black…
Not without GRRM. Kuuh! Kuuh! Kuuh!
Wimsey,
Sansa not thinking of Jon is not proof of her lack of love for him. Sansa doesn’t even ask about Arya’s well being after Ned is captured, she doesn’t give her a second thought and she doesn’t really think about her after either. Sansa is/ was very self-involved but I don’t think that means that there’s no love there for either Arya or Jon. As it often happens, people take others for granted until they are no longer around. I would imagine that given what they lost, Jon and Sansa will cling to each other as much as they can. They are family and the Starks were taught that the pack is stronger.
Jack Bauer 24,
I hope Robin has manned up a little bit since his training began! That would be a refreshing surprise!
Lonald,
I am with you on Sansa arriving at Castle Black. I am 92% certain that there is a picture of Brienne standing by the door that Alliser’s men chopped through.
Danny,
I tend to follow this line of thought too. And I also see Sansa’s thoughts drifting to Jon in the fourth book as evidence that she is thawing.
She is not the entitled brat that she was.
In the same way, and often overlooked probably because he’s a guy, that Jon is not the self-righteous entitled brat that he was too!
But in this case your incorrect, she thought of Jon 2 or 3 times, the last one was when she said she’s a bastard now like him at the Eyrie.
Sansa point blanks tells us why she doesn’t think about them, (which is an oxymoron since she thinks of all her family) it hurts her to much.
Which is why as you say she’s in survival mode.
She cares, she thinks of them, but right now until she gets safe she has no choice but to put them in a secure place in the recesses of her mind and play the game.
Ginevra,
That’s just a photoshoot Sophie did. Sadly Sansa won’t be getting an outfit like that up at CB. 😀
selena,
Other than 2 seasons of Robb and Catelyn together, and the almost as long with Bran and Rickon.
Wasn’t Sansa surprised to recall Jon in that memory?
At any rate, Sansa does recall her siblings with some frequency: but Jon is recalled extremely rarely. There is no indication that she really thought of him as a sibling. That stands in definite contrast to Arya and Bran, who think of Jon as another brother.
Wow… thanks.. that was like the best post EVER on this thread… lol JK… but seriously thanks for that …. I can now go to sleep with that image in my mind.. yum
Greenjones,
But she will get makeup.
About bookSansa’s feelings/thoughts about Jon:
I read the books over this last hiatus and made notes about how many times Sansa thinks of Jon. She thinks of him when she’s being attacked by the mob in King’s Landing. And not even by name, she lumps him in with Robb when “she shouted for Ser Dontos, for her brothers…” to save her. So she only thinks of Jon when she’s in danger.
In ASOS, before she goes down to make her snow castle she thinks, “Robb, Bran, Arya, her father, her mother, even Septa Mordane. All of them are dead but me. She was alone in the world now.” Uh, Sansa, you do still have a living half-brother! I was so annoyed when I read that. She remembers her freakin’ dead Septa but doesn’t give Jon a passing thought.
The next time she thinks of Jon is in AFFC when she’s all alone and feeling like crap about being a ‘bastard’. I saw it as Sansa feeling sorry for herself and finally realizing how shitty Jon had it being a bastard.
So she thinks of him a grand total of 2 times. That is one of the many reasons why I greatly dislike book!Sansa. As someone else said, she’s very self-involved. Thankfully, I find show!Sansa far more likeable and I’m eagerly anticipating her reunion with Jon.
That’s because she knows Jon is alive and well at the Wall!
It’s all well and good people count how many times she says his name or thinks it, you really need to look deeper, they weren’t as close as Jon and Arya, but in reading Jon tells us she always called him half brother, and no animosity (unlike Cat), she feels sorry for him when she also sees Yoren in KL and both of them have the same ideals of the NW, Sansa recalls the watch being called the Black Knights, and none of her thoughts of him are negative, if they were I don’t think she would subconsciously pattern Allayne Stone after Jon Snow.
There are more to both of them and more in common then many people see, and the reunion may be more shattering to them then what many may think.
My opinion of course, one of many.
Btw, what IS this Book of the Stranger. I assume its one of those titles that only apply to one specific thing in a storyline but very important nonetheless (like Hardhome or The Red Woman). Maybe High Sparrow or Arya related.
Jack Bauer 24,
Thanks for posting that!
Ice Spider,
*So gorgeous* I’ll just cry myself to sleep now…
The Robin stand and his face … is he sick?
I hope he is okay, and I miss the Vale glad we will see them
And Sansa and Jon I think they’ll meet in the last minute and Sansa will just enter the castle and the scene will cut , we won’t see there meeting
No dragons ? 🙁 I miss drogon ..
I think it’s something related to The Faith of The Seven
Maybe it’s thier holy book or something?
Because’ The Stranger’ is the God of Death in The Faith of The Seven
Tycho Nestoris,
this is a very funny chat! I am giggling just reading all these crazy posts!! Jansa,Sonja,Bueller!! 🙂
Danny,
I would looove to see a reunion between them with real physical affection
Jack Bauer 24,
Oh good LORD!!!! That man is a BEAUTY!!!
I don’t think she knows Mel and she definitly has no clue Mel birthed the shadow baby. No one knows how this works except for Davos who will keep his mouth shut.
Regarding imdb.com
Tyrion is listed as being part of all remaining episodes. And for instance Brienne appears to be in episode 4 and 5.
I know there is always a risk of losing favorite characters but do you think this means that Theon’s last episode will be this upcoming one?
Anon,
Ummmm who cares
They’re Starks and if the meet I will cry
But it’s Game of Thrones – not getting my hopes up 🙁
Ppp,
I partially agree hahha
I haaaate episodes with out my boy Jon
But they’re not boring
AlexG,
I just re-watched the latest episode and I find it amusing how Ser Davos basically makes himself Jon’s right hand man 🙂 He did respect Stannis, but I think now he find a leader that he can also love.
Anyone figure out who jorah
is battling in the preview for episode 4?
Paul,
I meant Stark kids (was never as attached to Ned and Cat) ..but you are right I forgot about Rickon and Bran together after escaping Winterfell
There’s so much potential with him…he’s Tywin’s brother and successor!! Yet all theyve had him do since S5 is mutter under his breath angrily at Cersei…3 eps this season they couldve developed his character more…unless youre a book reader he seems so irrelevant!!!
I feel it will almost be like Prince Doran if they just kill him for the shock of it now, without any secret plotting and counter-scheming vs his evil nephew & neice.
That was one of the reasons I loved that scene..Mel started her Prince that was Promised speech and Davos was like “nope, not this time,please exit stage left, dont let the door hit ya where R’hllor split ya,kthanxbye” and made himslf comfortable lol
singedbylife,
The IMDb is mainly fan-edited prior to the episodes airing. What episodes a given actor is credited for is not really indicative of anything.
She’s not particularly “feeling sorry for herself” at that point. She’s grown to like the anonymity of the Alayne guise, other than when people are directly insulting her, and at the point Jon comes up is making conversation. At which point she, yes, realizes that she’d like to see him, as he’s the only family she has left.
She also thinks about him in AGOT when she sees Yoren, for the record.
As far as book!Sansa’s initial relationship to Jon, I would say it’s best-described as indifferent. There was a class divide between them, and unlike her brothers (who were schooled alongside Jon by Ned in the assorted masculine pursuits) and Arya (who felt alienated from the class structure and sought Jon out as a consequence) there was never any occasion to bridge it. Jon notes in AGOT that as she became old enough to be aware of status difference it was then always present; his various subsequent thoughts about her are amiable enough, though it’s clear they weren’t close. This is all, I imagine, part of Sansa’s character arc where progressively explores the flaws of Westeros’ social structure, which she had been raised by her parents and septa to accept uncritically. Her time as Alayne Stone is obviously a big part of that.
As far as show!Sansa, the show has for the most part omitted the above arc, and most obviously there’s no Alayne Stone. From the way Sansa talked about him in 602, I get the sense the show is just going to say they had a normal sibling relationship.
Haha, that is funny!!!
Could it be Ahko (Chuku Modu)?
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CgmMliDW4AAgVE4.jpg
I’d rather not see a big tearful reunion between Jon and Sansa. They didn’t dislike each other, but they weren’t close; it was a very different relationship to the affectionate one Jon had with Arya. It wouldn’t ring true to me to have some big, emotional reunion. I think it would be more interesting to see awkwardness when they meet again, and then for a closer relationship to develop as the season progresses. They’ve both been through a lot and they’re similar in some ways, they just don’t know it yet.
As for where Jon is … Well, he’s just survived being murdered and he’s thrown in the Night’s Watch. My guess is he’s gone off to get drunk and find a red-headed whore in Mole’s Town. 🙂
Firannion,
That would be very weird after seeing a different actor for Ned, especially since he looked a good ten years older than little Winterfell Ned. The audience would be wondering why Ned changed significantly and Lyanna didn’t. If they’re showing her in the ToJ, it will be someone else … we just don’t know who.
IMDB is not a reliable source in any way… I was once listed as being in Hemlock Grove thanks to a friend of mine, I got a flood of “fan mail” for playing the tall disfigured woman.. ( And I’m a relatively average height male ) .. so you really can’t trust IMDB .. I am legitimately in IMDB but that’s for something else lol
Dee,
Why would you want Littlefinger dead? ? He triggers so much drama and interesting plot lines. His character is full of mystery so there’s still much more to be revealed about him. At least that’s my expectation.
He sure is!
Wylie,
AlexG,
We need a vote before the Amelgamation! My vote is Sonja.
kit_hepburn,
I believe Brienne is smart enough to figure it out. But, I also believe that there’s no time for her to mess with that situation. And move on to the Riverlands for Sansa.
That Stannis had a red witch on his side was pretty widely known (and Brienne has met her). Now, many would probably doubt that she could actually do magic, but Brienne obviously isn’t in that group, since she saw the shadow demon. Particularly since they would presumably hear that Mel just brought Jon back from the dead, which would call attention to her.
Rygritte,
Why refuse to hype?
And thus it is revealed how profoundly death has transformed Jon Snow: He becomes capable of squeeing.
I would give a lot to hear that scene! ?
Yes, at the parley the day before the battle that never happened, Mel is at Stannis’ side and Brienne is at Renly’s. And I seem to recall some stinkeye going down between the two.
Connor,
You’ll see, but I can see them doing this:
Edd: Your sister’s at the gate!
Jon: Fuck off.
Edd: For reals!
Jon: Arya?! *grabs Longclaw*
There are some more pictures for Episode 4 on the farfarawaysite.com
http://farfarawaysite.com/section/got/gallery6/gallery4/gallery.htm
Direwolf Lvr, Team Hodor,
In the series 2 episode where Stannis tells Renly to bow to him Brienne is on a horse next to Renly. It’s not remotely obvious it’s her because she’s wearing a helmet. I had no idea until someone on here pointed it out as the reason so few characters wear helmets, because we can’t see who it is. Should be interesting tv when they all work it out. Jansa are gonna be on the same team with Davos, Mel and Brienne supporting them. B killed Stannis, M and Stannis (presumably with D’s support) killed Renly and M killed Shireen, who D adored. Cue awkward conversations at the very least!
Edit: ninja’d by Firannion
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Did I forget any names?
Tim of House Deddings,
Mmmm from the lighting
Wide eyed Khal Moro, he is seeing something terrifying or awesome
Tim of House Deddings,
Or he’s had a really bad face lift and always looks startled 😉
hahahaha good one
Tim of House Deddings,
And in the picture of Olenna, she’s positioned exactly so that she has a decorated stone pillar coming out of the top of her not-sure-what-that-kind-of-headgear-is-called in a fountain/bursting style. Must weigh a ton! 😉
No Bran evidently, so they’re going to make us wait two weeks to see the end of the Tower of Joy.
That guy liner on the Dothraki lol
Looks like that’s Jon in Stark gear next to Edd. It’s similar to what he wears on that set photo. Makes sense he’d have it in his personal belongings.. It’s not like Jon went to The Wall with just the clothes he had on his back at that time, I totally see him bring Stark gear as a souvenir of his time at Winterfell. It makes more sense than having some Northern Lord give it to him. Why would he been storing a spare of not his House’s armour for years? And why would he give it to Jon?
Excuse me, but you are batshit crazy. Think of all the two of them have been through since they last saw each other. Look at the amount of comfort Sansa took in a simple hug from Theon, who betrayed her brother, pretended to kill the other 2 and took her ancestral home. He has been told he has no family but the NW, she has been used as a tool for powerful men to play with since she was 14 and hasn’t seen a member of her family since Joffrey lopped off her father’s head in front of her. They deserve and are owed a tearful, beautiful reunion and the comfort of seeking solace in one of their only remaining family members.
I have to say, I hate Khal Moro’s wig/beard merkin. I think they used Momoa’s real hair and it looked so much better.
Natalie Dormer (Margaery) doesn’t even look like she’s acting. She’s just like, “get me dafuq outta here.”
I hope that Tormund image is him looking in awe at Brienne.
dont know if that is really Jon next to him, could be someone else.
Mihnea,
He needs an editor who will stand up to him. Once you become rich and famous, it seems like editors are cowed and you end up with an unedited mess like AFFC or the parts of ADWD which could have used pruning (I still think ADWD was a good book and would have been very good had 20 – 30% been pruned from it.)
Stark gear YAAAY
I am intrigued of the role Sweetrobin will play this season. Either it is a one off like last year, which in my mind doesn’t make sense; he has to have a kind of development but then again to what end? Or will he be one of the long list that this season will oust? But why would LF would like to get rid of SRobin; on the contrary LF could not get Vale’s military support if something happens to Robin.
Sean C.,
Ha, ha, ha that would be a hell of a meeting. The Wall all of a sudden has been the most interesting meeting point in Westeros…
I think something is about to happen in this photo. The Khal’s behind him look to be joking around about something. So maybe he is the first one who realizes that something’s going down?
I’m excited! So many of my favorite storylines in this episode!
Tycho Nestoris,
I vote for “Jansa” too. 🙂
The man behind his left arm appears to be smiling or laughing though. Perhaps someone made a comment at Moro’s expense.
Looks like no Bran this episode, damn.
Tycho Nestoris,
Haha! One of my aunts is actually called Sonja (though she doen’t look anything like Brigitte Nielsen), so I guess to not confuse myself, I vote for the Jansa, although the Jonsa makes me laugh as well. 😀
TheUnknown285,
Don’t kill the messenger, but I think it’s possible that we’ll have to wait even three weeks till the 29th. But worry not. Time flies!
Maybe Moro is seeing Dany immune to fire?
Robin Arryn looks so much older. I wonder if they won’t have him speak like Olly and Rickon since their voices are different now.
Except everything they’ve been through will be enough to just see a familiar face to set them off emotionally.
Will someone please wipe that smug smile off of LF’s face? I fear for poor SweetRobin.
Still no NK/WW? Haven’t seen them since HH. When was the last time we saw Ser Loras?
dothrakian raven,
Technically LF is lord of the vale. He’s kind of like Roose/Ramsay in the North. He has legal control, but will anyone actually follow him? He’s using Robin, for now, but he doesn’t need him at all in the long run. If he can slyly kill Robin, he’d do it in a heartbeat, further securing his hold on the Vale.
Jack Bauer 24,
Lots of book readers will whine if Dany is immune to fire again, lol
Martin did say Targaryen’s aren’t immune to fire, but he iirc, he never confirmed or denied whether she was, right?
I’d like for both of them to be thrown out the moon door. 🙂
He doesn’t inherently need development. He’s the guy in charge of the Vale; he appears in that capacity, only to the extent necessary. Now, if he’s gotten a bit more confident and/or skilled in the year since we’ve seen him (he’s certainly grown a lot), that would work too.
Jack Bauer 24,
We will see Loras this episode, he was shown in the promo for Episode 4, and it’s still too early for the White Walkers to be shown in the season. My bets are 6 or 7, 8 or 9. Who knows.
taim,
It’s definitely not a Wildling or Watchman’s outfit. Davos wears darker clothes. I see brown and blue. Who else is left?
New interview says he’s remorseful, not smug.
http://www.ew.com/article/2016/05/11/game-thrones-littlefinger?xid=entertainment-weekly_socialflow_twitter
I hope that’s Jon next to edd, and always good to see Tormund.
Jon, sansa, pod, Brienne, Tormund, Mel, Davos, and Edd ain one place ?
my body is ready for sunday.
Looks to be the outfit Jon was wearing in the filming photo with the man-bun.
Flora Linden,
Wylie,
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I hope we can get to 15-20 votes!
I want him to have been trained to be a great warrior by the Royce’s but that guy holding the arrows looks quite irritated with him so I imagine he’s still the same sickly, hapless ol’ Sweet Robin we all know and… know.
Tycho Nestoris,
Jansa, for sure!
No, Littlefinger is not Lord of the Vale. He’s Robin’s Lord Protector (though since he’s been absent for a considerable period of time, Yohn Royce has effectively had that job since 501); Robin is Lord of the Vale. If Robin dies, any influence Littlefinger has dies with him, as the job would pass to whoever the next Arryn-descended person is.
Agreed!
I’ve been so focused on the Jon/Sansa reunion that I hadn’t even given a thought to Brienne and Davos. I really hope Brienne gets to tell Davos that she killed Stannis before Sansa sends her on the mission.
Yup, it definitely looks like
I can see the straps on the shoulders of the quilted brown leather and the greenish top that goes underneath it. Just like Ned wore in the TOJ flashback. While I had assumed Jon would get his new clothes from some loyal Northern house, I guess they’ll just say he packed it with him when he went to the wall. Which I find weird but, whatever, I can accept that. I wonder who they’re talking too.
JANSA
Hawk,
Yes it does. A Wildling, a Watchman and Davos ruled out, it only leaves us with Jon.
Here’s a pic of Davos in E4 (the one that had been released some time ago)
http://www.farfarawaysite.com/section/got/gallery6/gallery4/hires/13.jpg
The shot of Robin Arryn getting what looks to be an archery lesson is intriguing. I’m guessing this is during a carriage stop during a journey. I’m also guessing this is Sweetrobin’s first time outside the Eyrie since he was a wee bairn.
Oh, I’m also guessing that immediately after that still was taken he was killed by an arrow entering an eye socket at extremely close range. The culprit remains at large.*
* Either at Littlefinger’s bachelor pad or buried in Littlefinger’s backyard.
kevin,
Did we watch the same trailer? There’s literally snow everywhere, including falling from the sky around Sansa, Brienne, and Pod. I can’t tell if it’s Castle Black for sure (I don’t think there are rocks so close to the gate like that, could just be a weird angle), but she’s far north.
I’d say Last Hearth or Castle Black (unless they, for some reason, they place House Mormont or Manderly farther north for the show). Let’s hope it’s not Last Hearth or Sansa is in for a nasty surprise (unless the Umbers are actually tricking the Boltons).
If they fixed the gate after Wun-Wun’s little display, it’s definitely Castle Black. Jon and Sansa will meet next episode.
On a side note, Jon clearly walks into the barracks of Castle Black at the end of Oathbreaker. He didn’t just up and leave, so he’s probably still there if not saddling a horse at the beginning of next episode.
Looking like a runaway!
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Let’s play to 20 for fun even if the Jansa’s get the majority (11).
LF remorseful?? Hah, hah, hah, hah!!!! Who are you/they kidding?
“kaos is a ladda!”
BunBunStark,
Why do you find it weird? It’s a reminder for Jon of where he comes from and who he is. Wouldn’t you take something personal and home-related with you if you were to leave forever (for all you knew)? Jon was abandoning his Stark life for the Watch, but he wanted to keep some piece with him. A brother of the NW, but a Stark at heart. He didn’t give up on his memories.
I think regardless of how close Jon and Sansa were as children, their reunion is a big damn deal. But the books are very different from the show. In the books, their relationship, in the beginning, was described as indifferent — sort of. There are many instances in AGOT and ACOK where Jon thinks fondly of Sansa. Sansa, at this point, is still fairly self-involved and snobby (no fault of her own — it’s her character arc, simply). However, when she becomes Alayne, she begins to appreciate Jon a lot more, because she understands what he went through. No, they weren’t Jon and Arya, but there are no instances of them actively disliking/hating each other.
The show is a different matter. We’ve never gotten much of a sense of their relationship as children. However, in 6×02, Sansa tells Theon that she won’t let Jon harm him. This implies that while they might not have been incredibly close, she obviously knows him well and had at least some kind of good relationship with him.
Tycho Nestoris,
*Starts chanting like at a sports game* JANSA! JANSA! 😀
That is most definitely Jon wearing Stark armor next to Edd in the photo. They are probably talking with Davos and Melisandre and Tormund is outside when Sansa, Brienne and Pod arrive, and Tormund goes to tell Jon that his half-sister is there!
Ohhh yeah. Jansa hype!!!
Tycho Nestoris,
Yeah, Jansa ! 😉
I’m going with as Jon is getting ready to leave Sansa arrives.
SO happy to finally get some pictures from the Wall!!!
Stark armor!! I pray for a debut of the man bun.
Wylie,
What do you mean by “Vale ex machina” ?
Wimsey,
in fact I seem to recall something in AGOT that points to Sansa not thinking of Jon as her brother … but I could be wrong … when I re-read the books I tended not to focus on her storyline
Zish,
Maybe it works faster latitudinally than longitudinally? 😉
Thoughts on Sam and Gilly: So the whole purpose for Gilly to go to Sams Parents house is to introduce his father. Does that mean he will have some larger part to play in the seasons to come?
Im assuming Sam will continue on to be a Maester and that Gilly might just fade out but I wonder if Sam’s father will grow into a larger role and purpose. Any thoughts?
Also will the rest of the people in Westeros get some delayed notice that the Lord Commander has been killed?
JONSA! JANSA! JONSA! *chants into the sky*
Jack Bauer 24,
I’m going with that Jon and Edd are talking inside with Davos and Mel about what to do next and that is when Sansa and co. arrive at Castle Black!!
I will scream for hours if the Stark gear Jon took with him to The Wall is actually young Ned’s armour from Tower of Joy flashback
http://www.newyorker.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Larson-GameofThrones2-1200.jpg
Tycho Nestoris,
Jansa hype 😀
If Jon/Sansa is Jansa, what would Jon/Arya be?
Jack Bauer 24,
That’s a tough one lmao. Jarya? LOL.
Icekhione,
I think it’s just typical Stark armor in both cases.
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Flayed Potatoes,
haha but you only get to choose one name
Sean C.,
You’re probably right, in the books if Robin died, Harry the heir would have control. But I don’t know that the show is really going to focus on that point. I think the message they are sending is that Littlefinger does have controle of the Vale
Sean C.,
Jonsa sounds the best.
Rhaenys Stark,
Yes it’s a typical Stark armour. But it would be awesome if it was specifically the one Ned wore at TOJ.
I’m pretty sure Jon isn’t the only Northerner who joined the NW. The Stark uniform could have belonged to anyone.
There is only about 13 episodes left after this season, so Randyl must be important to the endgame. He does have a valyrian steel sword.
It feels like ages ago that we learned of the Tarly family casting lol. I’m ready to finally meet them.
JONSA JONSA JONSA!!!
Flayed Potatoes,
That’d be boring narratively-wise. Why not just have it be Jon’s?
Sometimes I wish Ned had a different armor. He was the warden of the north after all. I always imagined something with the Direwolf sigil on, kinda like what bran wore during Theon’s assault on Winterfell.
Now Jon is going to wear it and it looks like just another random Stark soldier.
I don’t understand, it doesn’t mean that something will not happen in the episode just because there are no pics or citations in the synopsis. Why assume that? It’s clear they don’t wanna spoil things with these images or descriptions.
Jack Bauer 24,
“Blood of my Blood” seems like a good episode for Sam and Gilly to arrive at Horn Hill (i bet that episode will have a family theme throughout)
I don’t think the show will explain where he got his new clothes from tbh. Maybe the costume designer will give us more details in an interview or something. So the uniform can be Benjen’s for all we know.
All I want is new Stark clothes and the man bun that was promised 😛
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Also, we are doing Dorah and Prienne, right?
Flayed Potatoes,
“The Man Bun That Was Promised”
Flayed Potatoes,
Jon takes it out and says ‘This was my father’s. He wore it during the Rebellion.’
DaKingindaNorf wore the standard Stark gear too, underneath all that plate and fur.
http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/gameofthrones/images/5/5d/Valar_Dohaeris_still_Rob_Stark.png/revision/latest?cb=20130330011825
Tycho Nestoris,
Jonsa
Production design and photography in Pyke are marvelous. It’s nice to see the contrast with all the other sets (they’re good too).
I am a straight male and the man bun is one of my most anticipated Season 6 developments to come 😀
i vote jansa all the way lol
Flayed Potatoes,
I doubt they just show Jon with Northern clothes and don’t say anything about it. Even if it’s just a throw away comment, they’ll make mention of the switch.
No, it just means whoever updates info on imbd.com didn´t put in full cast information yet.
For example: Episode 6 has just 3 cast members listed: Tyrion, Jaime and some unknown guy.
Please HBO give us a Stark reunion!
8 characters in the same place? Hype!
Hunter McAnally,
Here’s hoping Sam gets in a good zinger about dad wanting to throw him to the wolves a few years ago, and now here he is, Jon’s Snow’s best bud and training to be a maester.
Payback is a mofo.
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Jansa awesomeness, i wonder if they will make out right away or wait for next season
I’m partial to Jonrya.
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dothrakian raven,
Actually JonSan would be much better!
dothrakian raven,
I’ll add it and give you an extra vote for coming up with a new one 😉
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Edit: Sorry Dan, didn’t see that you voted.
I wonder what Tormund is reacting to.
I wonder if they will have Ghost say Hello to Sansa. It would be awfully cute and sad. Poor Lady. Oh the feels! 😥
GoTMancunian,
I’ll put it in spoiler tags, because of filming spoilers. Don’t read, if you don’t wanna get spoilt!
Born amidst conditioner and hair gel.
I would die. This would be some A+ fan service.
Tycho Nestoris,
then you will have to extend your experiment to 50 votes 🙂
Jack Bauer 24,
WOTW should have a post where we discuss the symbolism of the man bun. 😛
Kamali,
That would be a lovely surprise!
taim,
Who else? Wildings, NW brothers, Davos nobody wears it and nobody has a reason to wear this armor except Jon. He quit Night’s Watch and gotta wear something else. Once you join NW you wear black uniform. Guest would’ve sit on the other side of the table and not beside Edd as new LC. It must be Jon.
Looking at Edd’s face, I can’t help but wonder if he’s thinking, “I’m fucked”. Jon’s given him command of CB, but what exactly is he in charge of? The first ranger, the master builder, and the head steward are all dead. Jon, Davos, and Mel will probably be leaving soon. They’re down to about 35 dudes and they’ve got Wildlings hanging out in the courtyard. If I were Edd, I would’ve said “thanks, but no thanks” when Jon handed him command.
I like the idea someone else had that Tormund is looking at Brienne as she walks into CB. Now there’s a warrior woman worthy of Tormund Giantsbane.
Icekhione,
Wonder if it is Stark armor that Benjen had left lying around when he joined the watch.
dothrakian raven,
Max 1 bonus vote 🙂 But you can suggest as many names as you’d like.
HelloThere,
I’m picturing a mash-up of Sam, Gilly and Li’l Sam visiting Horn Hill and Jodie Foster’s Thanksgiving comedy “Home For The Holidays.”
A wacky romp featuring lots of laughs, some tears, and a lot of awkward.
Jack Bender shot the TOJ stuff (they used part of it for episode 3 but they have intermixed material from different directors in the same episode before in the show). Bender’s episodes are 5 and 6, so in all likelihood they will show the rest of the TOJ in one of those episodes…
Looks like we’re touching on literally every character but Bran, Arya, Sam and Gilly this week.
I have a weird question. The Weirwood statue in the HOBAW – is it actually carved from weirwood? Is there any way Bran could communicate with Arya through the statue? I would assume the trees have to be alive in order to be part of the network but now I am wondering… But, it seems like the show isn’t really relying on the trees for Bran’s visions anyway.
Wylie,
Oh God, now you have planted that thought (hope) in my head. Especially after Shaggydogs death it would be so cool to see Sansa interact with Ghost, and for Ghost to recognize her immediately.
I think I’m going to stop thinking about this episode so I don’t end up disappointed that my fan fiction doesn’t end up on the screen.
Randyll Tarley won’t be impressed by the Maester development in Sam, and probably won’t believe a word of Sam’s other great deeds. Killing a White Walker and surviving battles are worthy accomplishments, but RT won’t believe that WW exist and won’t believe anything worthy of Sam.
I think Sam told Gilly in a prior episode that when he told his father that he wanted to be a maester, RT reacted as though wanting to be a maester was an insult to the family manhood. RT already told Sam to his face that he wished Sam were dead. When a parent is disinclined to love a child, nothing that child does will have the slightest positive impact; in fact, any accomplishments made by that unloved child only further enrage a cold parent. I think that’s the situation we have with RT. Sam is going to have to finally come to terms with that, thumb his nose at his father and go about his life in his own way. He already is on the road to doing that.
That being said, I can’t wait to see the legendary old curmudgeon. Also, when Sam said his sister was lovely, that made me excited to see her. I can’t wait to see what Sam’s bringing home a girl and a baby does to the Tarley family dynamic. The women will be delighted, Sam’s brother will be amused and old Randyll will be – enraged, of course.
Seeing his fellow Ginger Sansa ride into Castle Black.
Lol, you’re right, we know that circular building
Kamali,
Shame on me! I’m so sorry and agree that the fanfic needs to stop asap, otherwise we’ll all be crying for the wrong reasons 😀
Flayed Potatoes,
Maybe Tormund sees Brienne and thinks hot damn woman, you’re mine. Now that’s a she-bear he has been craving for.
And the only one I found interesting is…………..Baelish! I’m surprised we’re getting more sweet robin
Ye gods, I hope she gets out of there soon. In which episode are Jaime and Mace supposed to ride up the Sept stairs? You’d think Olenna would have had her out of there already. She was willing to murder a king to save Marge from brutality, yet she’s sitting on her old behind now, not doing much of anything. After murdering Joffrey, you’d think arranging the timely demise of the High Sparrow would be like picking food from her teeth for the old Queen.
Someone might of pointed this out already, but the guy next to Edd looks like he’s wearing the Stark armor. Maybe Jon got his kit already?
At least it looks like Robin has been well taken care of. In this pic and others I’ve seen, Robin is well dressed in the manner you’d expect a high-born lord to be dressed. So at least Lord Royce isn’t an ass, like it looks Smalljon Umber turned out to be. Then again, Lord Royce is one of the old guard, isn’t he? He’d honor those traditions.
So, Jon/Sansa is actually a thing? I’m just asking, I think Sansa could easily fall for someone like Jon, specially if she finds out his true parentage, but I didn’t know so many people rooted for it haha
It was my understanding that if you killed High Sparrow, you’d have a civil war or at least some kind of French Revolution at hand. So I guess, everyone is trying to solve the situation without plunging the whole capital into further chaos.
Thronetender,
I haven’t seen all the trailers (it causes me to look for specific scenes/images)…but (show spec)
Azlar,
Oh geez no! I don’t think that’s what it’s about. We’re just riled up for the potential meeting of the two Stark siblings next episode, that’s all. Friendship and family only 😀
I was thinking that Wun Wun might start reciting Giant poetry to her.
I would think that how he affects Sam’s evolution from here on out is going to be much more important that Valyrian steel is going to be. The Valyrian steel almost certainly is a red herring of sorts: while people continue to think of the White Walkers as “evil,” some viewers will think “Aha, it is going to be about finding Valyrian steel and obsidian to kill the Walkers!” I will not be at all surprised if most viewers are thinking very different things after Bran actually starts interacting with the Walkers.
BunBunStark,
Now there’s a warrior woman worthy of Tormund Giantsbane.
Hahah now there is a power couple
It’s quite obvious that the Sansa who last saw Jon in season 1 is an entirely changed girl / woman. Her life since has been horrible and her family decimated, or so she thought until recent events.
I think if she met Jon Snow again it will be a fall down on your knees and thank you gods moment for them both. I will be in tears likely blowing snot bubbles when this DOES happen.
CANNOT WAIT.
Joffrey’s Cunt,
Regarding the same armor among the starks
Starks are not the type to parade their fancy things in front of their men. Kinda cool symbolism I think that they wear the same as everyone else. If its good enough for you its good enough for your troops type of thing
Flayed Potatoes,
yes the Man-Bun must be discussed at length
Yes, you are right, of course. The Sparrow’s sparrows would be in an uproar. Funny, killing a king, Joffrey, not only caused no uproar, everyone was relieved. It’s just that I thought she’d have thought it through already. Or that I’m really anxious for the HS to be gone. It will be interesting to see what happens to the HS eventually.
Hmm, you mind if I put on my Tinfoil Hat for a minute? High Sparrow/Varys saying he always trusts the “birds.” Any connection, maybe? Ok, enough of that. (shoves Tinfoil Hat to the back of the sock drawer.)
Agree
-I am glad to see LF/Vale scene..even if it small one..from the trailer we know LF is convincing Sweet Robyn that Sansa is in danger which will set up Vale Army showing up for the fun in episode 9 (even if it is a “surprise” that they show up when they do)..and the Vale is soo pretty..love the scenes there
-pic of Khal Moro- oh Hey Drogon!
-that is Jon beside Ed…and I am betting that pic we have of Brienne in front of open doorway is from this same scene
Great photos but why do so many of them have perplexed looks on their faces?
I know that I had a few other comments but that photo of Michiel Huisman has left me speechless…
Wimsey,
I don’t think they’re evil, but I don’t see any scenario in which they aren’t the antagonist. Maybe the CotF are controlling/collaborating with them (possibly not all, maybe there’s a pro-WW rebel group somewhere and another pro-human with Bran), but in any case, there has to some sort of war against the WWs before a new peace can be reached.
I don’t think that interaction with Bran will go down too well. We know from the trailer that they will most likely attack the cave. I think the interaction is supposed to make them realize they have a powerful enemy in Bran and they need to attack him. Possibly also to inform them about Bran’s location. They had those wights parked in front of the cave, but I’m not sure if they ever got feedback that Bran arrived since these skeletons got blasted. We also don’t know if they were waiting for Bran specifically or have been hiding there for centuries or even since the last Long Night.
I agree with you that the Valyran swords most likely aren’t game changing weapons. As it’s looking right now, they shouldn’t be hard to defeat with their two glaring weaknesses – the dragons can make short work of the wights and then you just shoot the WWs with dragon glass arrows, no need to ever get into melee. They definitely need some upgrade in their arsenal (whatever that could be, ice dragons would certainly fit the bill) to make them a more worthy foe.
Tycho Nestoris,
Sanjon
Thronetender,
Agreed a to z.
Shon shon shon?*
*obscure reference to Ennio Morricone’s musical score of Sergio Leone’s 1971 spaghetti western “Duck, You Sucker.”
HelloThere,
But in the show there was a scene where Danny touch the eggs that were on fire and she didn’t burn, while the dothraki woman did. They were both surprised. Danny won’t burn. I believe she will start a fire to get rid of punishment.
mariamb,
I hope it’s not because they’re working actors who rely on GOT to pay their rents and mortgages and groceries and their kid’s dental bills and they just found out they’re being killed off in incredibly gruesome ways in the next episode. 😉
(Srsly, I know actors and techies who landed Broadway gigs which they thought would put them in the cat bird seat for a while and their shows lasted a week. Not very pretty.)
I doubt that there will be any antagonists like that. In this sort of story, the real antagonists are the protagonists themselves. Somehow, MB&W are going to play on that. The Tower of Joy was just the appetizer here: Bran got a small course of the Legend is a Lie. We have a general story about what happened during the last great war: and you can bet that it is 9 parts lie for every one part truth. And the truths replacing the 90% lies will probably greatly alter the way that Bran and Jon view the Walkers. And that will create the internal struggles for the main characters: once they know this, they probably are going to have some absolutely crap alternatives in front of them.
This made me laugh out loud.
But it is probably true in some cases. We have already lost quite a few characters thru three episodes.
I do expect a tearful reunion between Sansa, Jon and Ghost. The three of them have suffered a lot.
Azlar,
Love interest?? Sansa and Jon are actually only cousins. They were never close and they haven’t seen each other in a long time. It’s possible. However, we should wait for the next episode. We haven’t seen them together really, maybe they won’t have any chemistry and it would be just awkward.
mariamb,
Then again, maybe they just look perplexed because they had to be in the make-up trailer at 4 a.m.? 😉
Vote for Jonsa 🙂
Aryan? That’s what first sight of Arya’s name made me think, at least. Or we might someday call it canon.
Looper,
We saw the door fixed in the last episode while Jon was ending his watch …
Yes, definitely epics and tall tales. And the occasional My Little Golden Book because deep down Wun Wun is a total softie.
If the armor Jon uses turns out to be from Benjen, I’ll be 100% sure he will return. It’s too much name drop and recalls for a character long ago gone.
Tycho Nestoris,
Jonsa!
Ginevra,
Reading the first novel, the first thing I thought of upon encountering the name Arya was Arwen of the Lord of the Rings, who will always be Evenstar to me because that’s what my first girlfriend always called her.
Yes, it’s true; I am a very sappy assassin.
S + J =
Jansa (9)
Jonsa (6) Picking up steam!
JonSan (1)
Shon shon shon (1) Catspaw also gets a bonus vote!
Sanjon (1) Thanks Mag! You get a bonus vote too!
Sonja (1)
Sonsa (0)
Sanja (0)
Bueller (0)
Hodor (0)
Wyllis (0)
Walder (0)
If we’re voting on this, my vote is for Jansa, ‘coz it’s the only one of those that sounds good? LOL
Oh wow, now I’m totally over Brienne/Jamie and shipping Brienne/Torumnd. Imagine him trying to steal her in the middle of the night.
Better yet: imagine her trying to steal him in the middle of the night!
Jonsa. I’m late what’s going on? 😀
Warden of the Northwest,
haha! I would ship that!
Tycho Nestoris,
Aw shucks, my first bonus ever! And here I am wearing sweats and my hair looks like a tornado swept through it. But anyway, I’d like to thank the little people, and I don’t mean just Maisie and Dinklage.
And I’ll just see myself out…
Jack Bauer 24,
and yet Gilly’s baby has not grown since season 3.
I like the one where Varys is doing the can-can.
Don’t forget about the Ice Spiders, which have already been mentioned more than one in the show (last time was Hardhome.) Usually a “name drop” in this show means that a visual is upcoming…
Hoyti Von Totiy,
Re Sansa arrival at CB at end of ep.
Not sure about that. They just want to keep the reumion under wraps. the shot of Thurmond looks like it could be part of a reunion and again the image Edd. You also have to ask how could Theon get to The Iron Island before Sansa gets to Castle Black. She has a short distance to travel while Theon has to get to the west coast, find and a ship going to the Iron Island and then sail there. Perhaps Baelish lends him his Tardis. Peter must be making a fortune ferrying folks around.
George,
You do get a bonus vote for coming up with a name… (max 1 bonus vote).
Aryamad,
Jon + Sansa name name combinations.
(◉‿◉) + lmao
What is all this fuckery with blending people’s names to make cutesy pairings? Ugh.
Wimsey,
And you’re welcome.
http://s32.postimg.org/cg92q1r7p/brimundship.png
Apropos of something, Turner Classic Movies is presently showing Roger Corman’s classic 1961 horror flick “The Pit and the Pendulum,” which I’d bet real money is a favorite of GRR Martin. It’s certainly one of mine.
Mihnea,
its been so long since we had a book I forgot how much GRRM writes about food. Pages and pages about food….
Not me.
Tormund/Sansa 2016. Ginger Power!
Oh, and I’m calling it now, that’s Tormund looking at Sansa (in the Tormund photo) as she’s coming into Castle Black…or at least that’s the way they’ll make it look like in the editing…
Aryamad,
♪ Love is a long and splendid thing ♫
Queen of Nothing,
Yes and its the motivation Jon needs to help him find some purpose/direction.
I believe these pics are of the same scene (Notice, Ed is looking up and Brienne is looking down) – and that’s definitely Jon sitting next to Ed – However, I have my doubts about that trailer shot of Sansa and friends at the gate – it doesn’t look like CB to me, the rocks and snow do not fit. I know, it makes no sense at all.
http://digitalspyuk.cdnds.net/16/06/980×652/gallery-1455292341-gwendoline-christie-brienne-of-tarth-got.jpg
http://farfarawaysite.com/section/got/gallery6/gallery4/hires/6.jpg
Wimsey,
How would that endgame look like? The WWs/CotF are only defending against an attempted genocide that started thousands of years ago by the humans? Then Bran has to stop Jon and Dany from destroying them for good?
I could see something like that, but I’m not sure how that would fit in with them attacking the cave. If Bran is supposed to shed new light onto them and even make us sympathetic to their cause, why would they choose to attack him? Did he violate some sacred rules just by showing up? Are they scared by him? I’m really looking forward to his visit in WW home town.
What I totally agree with is your point about the history of the Long Night being (almost) total BS. There have been many hints about unreliable narrators and it would be a huge surprise if the first war actually went down like it’s been told.
Ditto. Now, what if Varys’ BFF Illyria and Olenna were an item… ?
I think there’s a good chance the mysterious rider from the trailer is Benjen. The question is: Will he be alive? Or some sort of conscious wight-like being like CH? I know they’re not the same in the books, but the show may combine the characters. Either way, if it’s indeed Benjen, I’m sure he’ll have plenty to tell. Maybe not this season, though, I guess that scene will be from the finale.
Didn’t remember the show has mentioned them multiple times. I didn’t think they would be doing them for technical/budget reasons, especially if they aren’t crucial to the plot and would mostly look cool. But that makes me reconsider. D&D have been sitting on a presumably WW-related mind-blowing scene for years now, so I could see them having done a fly-over of some magical creatures that they chose to integrate into Bran’s “visions” and postponed it for that reason.
People are saying Sansa and co aren’t at CB because of the rocks but during 4×09 when Tormund’s group are charging the gates there are big rocks piled all along the sides of the path. And I double checked by rewatching that part of the episode.
Oh and my vote is for Jonsa, cause it’s equal parts Jon and Sansa with the ‘n’ overlapping. Lol.
khal moro is looking up. …shocked terrified expression ……..is drogon coming? ????
and edd in the high table ?????
Could this be Gendry in the back – behind Tormond?
http://www.farfarawaysite.com/section/got/gallery6/gallery4/hires/16.jpg
Hey, you guys can play silly name games, I can sure as hell play Sherlock Holmes – LOL
Food for thought, supposed Gendry shows up with Euron, who found him still rowing that stupid little boat?
We know that Coldhands is not Benjen in the books, but, you’re right, it’s possible the show might combine the two characters in such a way. And yea, after the Benjen appearance in the flashback, I’m pretty sure the hooded figure in the trailer is the long-lost Benjen.
Me too! The look on his face in that photo…it’s like he has been ‘struck with the thunderbolt.’ And he’s looking too high up just to be admiring Jon’s little sister who was kissed by fire.
She will, of course, be utterly nonplussed by his attentions…probably think that he’s yanking her chain like Red Ronnet and those other guys in Renly’s camp.
Tormienne, anyone?
How about JonSan
Hope it’s better than Vogon poetry.
Agreed. Gilly will brag about ‘Sam the Slayer,’ Sam will argue that all Valyrian steel is urgently needed at the Wall, and Randyll will scoff at their fairytales.
But Sam’s little brother Cormac McLaggen, heir to Heartsbane, may well prove less skeptical. I predict that he swipes the sword, inflamed by Sam’s stories, and skedaddles north, Daddy be damned.
The endgame is Jon, Daeny, etc., working out something that gets humans out of the way from being squashed by Walkers, R’hllor and goodness knows what else, while setting to right whatever it is that woke up the Walkers. To an extent, I think that it’s going to hinge on them recognizing what Azor Ahai really did, what the real implications were, and how to avoid whatever actually happened to him.
That written, there are dozens and dozens of plots that could fit this. Without knowing anything about why the Walkers went away or why the came back, it’s almost foolhardy to guess. However, I would bet that whyever R’hllor so hates them (and the Children and the Old Gods, for that matter) will be connected in the end.
Still, at this point, the overarching story seems to be about damned-if-you-do-damned-if-you-don’t conundrums. Just like Ned Stark sacrificing his honor to do the honorable thing with a baby boy years ago, Jon, Daeny, etc., are going to have to do that in the crunch. The trick will be: what honor gets sacrifice and what honor gets upheld? (And then they all live unhappily ever after….)
I’m so spoiled being on the west coast. That means I usually get to watch the episode at 6pm. This week, however, I have some damn dinner I have to attend. Sure, I’ll be home in time for the 9pm airing (let’s just say I plan to make a point of being home in time for it, however long other people are at the damn dinner), but I’m going to be sitting there trying to be polite and listen to whatever folks have to say, and really I’ll just be wondering what the hell is happening in the episode I should be home watching.
Your choice of the word ‘genocide’ makes me flash back to the explanation for Tyrion and Jaime’s long conversation about Cousin Orson squashing the beetles: allegedly payback for Orson Scott Card having said something derogatory about GRRM’s writing (or was it the show?). The beetles, of course, are the Formics, the insectoid alien species (nearly) obliterated by Ender Wiggin, who then goes on for a whole slew of sequels atoning for his ‘xenocide.’
So one might surmise from the inclusion of this digression that the author seriously disapproves of stories in which extinction of the perceived enemy is the goal. The choice of Others with a capital O as the Westerosi name for their mysterious and alarming neighbors to the north is probably no coincidence. The tragic folly of ‘othering’ people may be the ultimate moral of the story.
Ha! And Tyrion has a footstool! I wish I had a portable footstool. I’m always lowering chairs as far as they’ll go or sitting crosslegged since the feet never reach the ground.
kevin,
I think Sansa will go to wall. That is not the Vale they are entering those big gates. Eventually she will split with Brionne sending her to Riverrun and herself going to Bear Island. That’s the safest place in the north at the moment for her. Little finger will ride north after hearing she escaped as well as Ramsay’s demise. He will try to rally with Sansa, I don’t think she will buy it and have him poisoned. Imo
In my opinion, there are no actual gods in the series. We already know the old gods are just children of the forest and greenseers that warged into the weirwoods. R’hllor, the drowned god, the seven, etc… probably don’t exist. Magic exists and mythological figures likely have some basis in the world’s history. But, the mythology surrounding the religions is simply the peoples of the world adding religious significance to that magic and those historical figures over the course of thousands of years. It is much like our own world, and it isn’t surprising that GRRM would do this in his semi-realistic world due to his own atheism.
Mag,
We do know Sansa takes a bath, puts on a bedazzled frock with a fur collar, styles her hair and wears the most makeup ever.
What is this farfaraway site? Are those images officialy released and are they posted elsewhere before? I think it’s a curious place.
Watched the first three episodes in a row last night and Sansa stood out to me. Sophie’s acting was good – a mix of fear, emotional edge and vulnerability that carried through from the escape, to the oaths and her talks with Brienne and Theon. She seemed more out there and less hidden as an actor in those scenes. Just that short shot in the trailer for E4 shows that same emotional state. I think she will play the reunion with Jon really well. And then we will move on to a more secure- feeling Sansa.
R’hllor definitely exists. Whether it is a “god” or not is besides the point: the Old Gods and the White Walkers exist, and it’s completely subjective as to whether you want to call them gods. The problem with the “People just credit R’hllor for magic” idea is that magic is something that a small number of people can use, whereas R’hllor actively uses people. Remember, it is not just sending visions: it’s sending messages, even if the silly bald monkeys do not do the best job of interpreting them. And if the silly bald monkeys offer the right things, then R’hllor rewards them with a banana pellet of power. I would not be surprised if we soon learn (or get a very strong hint) that R’hllor is the voice that Varys heard from the fire.
However, that raises an equally intriguing question: what is R’hllor? Does it’s origin have something to do with White Walkers? It certainly seems hell bent on defeating them. The key thing here is that it also dislikes the Old Gods. This is part of what makes me think that the “true” history has been badly white-washed, and that what actually happened was some sort of “settlement” between the Walkers and the hominids in which whatever became R’hllor paid a horrible price, leaving it forever entangled in magic. The Children might well remember the truth, or at least something much closer to the truth: but I suspect that their roll in this is not something they necessarily want Bran to learn.
And that’s also why it was so important for Bran to learn that the fight at the Tower of Joy was not the Epic Legend that he had thought it was. Bran needs to learn that at a wide range of levels, history becomes “epic” only with the help of lies.
However, the 7, the Drowned God, etc., are “real” gods in that they are just make believe.
Firannion,
Tormienne +1 !!
I am a bit late, but it’s Jonsa for me too!
It’s good to see that even though Jon’s watch may be ended, he is not leaving Edd totally high and dry, and he will set things up as much as can before leaving Castle Black.
It is a neat site. I remember that last year I was struck by this Arya image, supposedly from Season 5 Episode 9, which never actually happened.
http://www.farfarawaysite.com/section/got/gallery5/gallery9/hires/40.jpg
This is my most anticipated episode of the first half of the season – because of what I hope will go down at Vaes Dothrak! 😀 I hope Drogon finally makes his appearance this season. Khal Moro has seen something awe-inspiring. Emilia Clarke looks stunning, especially after the drab clothing of last season and the not-so-wonderful hairstyle.
Tyrion’s clothes are so regal! I imagine the Meereen crew is bidding farewell to Varys.
Olenna is hanging with the wrong crowd, and it will get her killed.
Theon and Yara!
Littlefinger at long last. I have been looking forward to his take on how his match of Sansa and Ramsay went down!
I find most of the actors on this show as great performers. The ones I’ve been amazed most of are Maisie, Peter, and Lena. But this season so far, Sophie and Kit have stood out for me. I’m now waiting for Emilia to wow me with her upcoming episodes.
Where do you think the dragons (or the doom of Valyria) fit into this? I can see a connection to R’hllor in some way. I’ve never given Azor Ahai much thought, that whole thing struck me as some very vague legend that people are just projecting stuff into (both in-universe as well as the fandom).
Interesting thoughts about R’hllor. Like AA, I thought he didn’t really exist and chalked it up to magic and legends. But if you paint the entire picture, it makes a lot of sense. I was really torn on whether resurrection worked only through magic, which seems somewhat implausible, as pretty much everyone would be able to bring someone back if all it took were some murmurs and a “please and thank you”. But the show also made it quite clear Jon wasn’t in heaven, hell, purgatory or something like that, so it’s unlikely that R’hllor is a straight up god. Him being trapped with magic or being a magical entity or something like that is a nice compromise between two otherwise contradicting pieces of information.
So if he exists, is he the big bad of the series? Did he try to wipe out the WWs (and possibly the CotF, too), lost the war (maybe the Wall’s true purpose is to protect the races north of the Wall from his power), got banned into some hell dimension or whatever and is now trying to make his comeback? Which may be the real reason why the WWs have risen again.
How did you know it’s Jon sitting beside Edd? It could be any of the NW men. Also, Brienne’s photo is actually from ep5, not ep4.
BTW, Edd in the photo seems to be thinking, “What the f**k did I get myself into???” 🙂
Tycho Nestoris,
Haha! So there’s this thing now? I’m going with Jonsa. 🙂 Gah. Just let us have the Stark reunion, stat.
Pigeon,
great shot!
A love triangle among Tormund, Brienne, and Wun Wun. Toriennewun? 🙂
The guy sitting next to Edd is wearing Stark armor. The NW men wear black.
Sam
Sophie, Kit and Maisie seem to be growing as actors all the time. Sansa has kind of stood out because we are so used to her character having to hide her thoughts from characters around her. This year it has been a big turnaround.
House Arryn wardrobe is a nice change from the Red-Black-Grey tones of the rest of Westeros (Lannisters, Northerners etc. I skip past the Dorne scenes)
Kay,
How do you think he finds out Sansa escaped? A letter from Ramsay demanding his bride back? He sent ravens about Roose.
Is Daario looking at Jorah’s grey hand?
Kevan looks scared. Olenna looks like THUH Queen.
Why is Daario wearing a harpy talon tie pin?
Grey Worm overcompensating with nipples on a breastplate.
Tormund 100% falling in love with Brienne at first sight.
Marg looks like she just read her script for season 6.
Jon 100% sitting next to Edd.
Maybe he sent LF a raven asking for help against any rebellious Northerners since Sansa has escaped. LF told them he wanted to be buddies.
BeardedOnion,
He promised not to hurt her. Why would she escape?
Nice new pictures
What’s the bet that after seeing the farce of his swordsmanship last time, LF will come up and to everyones shock Sweetrobin will be an expert archer lol
lol at Tormund
Probably looking at Brienne…
But perhaps more specifically at Sansa, recall what they said about Red Heads being kissed by Fire etc
Tycho Nestoris,
Not sure what time the polls close, but my vote is for Jonsa.
Tycho Nestoris,
Haha!! I agreeee 😉
I go with flow! Ima voting for Jansa!!!
Tycho Nestoris,
So,Jansa for me!! Are the polls closed already???
Man, how bad does Jorah’s shirt have to smell by now? He’s been in that thing since Season One. I mean, sure, it’s probably been washed, but how often?
Pigeon,
god, I’d never believe that because it looks like my photoshops
The Snark Knight
That’s exactly what i thought when i looked at that close up of Daario’s leather. 🙂
What i find interesting and i havent seen anyone mentioning is the look at Khal’s face. He looks scared or shocked.
One question, is it likely that Jon may notice Brienne’s Valyrian Steel sword? Considering what happened at Hardhome, he should be on the lookout for those, surely. Any chance that he questions Brienne as to how she acquired it. I hope either Jon or Sansa realize that that’s Ice Brienne is carrying !!
And when they ask her why is the pommel of the Stark family sword a golden lion and that the half of the steel in it is missing?
Wow what an eye for the detail.
Surely Brienne will tell them about the sword herself.
If she tells them the truth, their next question would be where is the other half, maybe?? And they both do actually belong to the Starks. I wonder if even Brienne knows that it’s Widow’s Wail? In the books Sansa realized that Widow’s Wail was made from Ice, I think. But nothing about it on the show so far. Maybe they will not really go into all this on the show, but it would be cool if they did!
Laura,
Err, no I’m not “batshit crazy” because I have a different opinion to you. A more complicated reunion, one that isn’t all tearful hugs and emotion, would be a better representation of the history between these characters, as well as more interesting dramatically. (Sansa hated Theon when they met again. She was emotional much later after he redeemed himself and risked his life for her, so …. odd comparison.) Jon is at his lowest ebb: he chose the NW over his family and now it seems like that was all for nothing. Sansa isn’t the same naive, slightly snobby girl he remembers but he doesn’t know that … yet. She can give him a purpose, reignite the Stark within but it’s not going to happen the moment they clap eyes on each other because he’s angry, miserable and lost right now, and was never very close to her to begin with.
ghost of winterfell,
One assumes Brienne explained all that to Sansa offscreen.
I never understood the obsession with Littlefinger’s “teleporter.” By necessity, different story lines will progress at somewhat different paces. You do realize that in Episode 1-2, the partly got from Winterfell to the Ruby Ford in about 15 minutes, right?
ANiceChianti,
Those aren’t worth bothering with. They complain now that we are beyond book material but they were never bothered by these very same things in the early seasons.
It’s not worth to bother with them. Just ignore them and they’ll leave.
Sean C.,
In that case, would Sansa be okay with Brianne retaining her family sword? Or the fact that the pommel has a lion now?
And the fact that people kept referring to the fact that months elapsed was just people “saying that”: because I often refer to things that happened days ago as months or years ago, myself.
Seriously, I never have understood why people do not take distance as a measure of time elapsed. If Melisandre is with Stannis’ army in once scene, and then at the Wall in the next scene, then this means that multiple days elapsed between scenes. Add to this that whenever characters on the show refer to past events on the show, it is always discussed in years: Jaime was captive for nearly a year, Sansa was tortured by Joffery for years, the Crown bankrupt itself fighting Joffery’s wars for years. etc. This would be a world in which there would be a LOT of time between subsequent events because of how slow communications, travel, etc. are. There is no way to communicate that visually except distance.
Probably almost as bad as most of the people around him. If television ever learned to broadcast odor, and if the showrunners were crazy enough to be even remotely realistic, then the ratings would plummet drastically.
Why stop there? Maybe the Harrenhal Bear will turn up, too.
I just realized something!
Since there’s no Victarion Greyjoy in the show, I always thought that Euron would either play bookEuron’s part (in Oldtown) OR Victarion’s part (in Meereen).
But since both Oldtown (Sam) and Meereen need a Greyjoy… Now I realized that, maybe, Victarion’s role will be played by… Theon? What if Euron sends Theon (and maybe Yara) to Meereen?
Has this been discussed before?
For some reason I think Theon’s return to the Iron Islands will be shortlived and that he will return to his real home WF. I think his arc can only be completed when he redeems himself by killing Ramsay. I honestly can’t see anyone else doing it.
I think the problem is that, in most shows, books, and stories, scenes are all sequential unless we are very clearly told otherwise. So our brains assume that if we are seeing one scene, the next scene will have occurred after that scene, and then next even later and so on. We think sequentially.
With GoT, however, we get time warped constantly from storyline to storyline. Within the storylines themselves, timing is fairly sequential and consistent, but from scene to scene, mixing the storylines, our timeline is not at all sequential, which tricks our minds into thinking that all of these scenes are much more back-to-back without time lapses.
We may not see the sacking of Oldtown in the show at all.
Ginevra,
Thats Damphair not Victarion
Victarion doesn’t exist, and most likely is being replaced by Yara
That is a hell of a good question. I doubt that Valyria has any link to this, but dragons have their own connection to magic, or at least some forms of it then. I cannot help but to think that this will be an important plot angle: but what, I do not know.
Again, good questions. On the “big bads,” I suspect that what we’ll find is there are no “big bads” so much as just “different sides.” The real “big bad” might wind up being the conundrums: the Walkers, humans, Children, etc., cannot all have what they need without depriving one fo the others of what they need. R’hllor itself might be Olly writ-large: that is, something with an understandable vendetta that blinds it to other things. In that case, it might be “bad”, but it also is pitiable, and something that we all have been at one point or another (but without the abiliity to, say, raise dead or change weather or make 200 year old women look like 30 year olds).
My bet is that we will learn a lot about both in the coming weeks. We know that Bran interacts with Walkers in his visions. We have evidence that the Red Church types will interact heavily with Daeny’s team in Meereen. And there is a good chance that a lot of very old fan conjectures will be put to the test! (These are the conjectures that have most grabbed me about the series since the 1990’s, as I think that these will put the protagonists on “the” spot more than anything else will.)
But, in all seriousness, these questions you raise are the ones that I think are going to be huge in the end. And the bittersweet nature of the ending might well be that the answers to the different questions are going to be such that some very hard choices with no “honorable” solutions.
Moka,
It has come up that Yara might seek Daeny as a means of support against her Uncle. Obviously, her book plotline has been iced already (sorry, could not resist), and I doubt that she’ll ever get anything like a storyline, even as rudimentary as what she gets in the book. But she could take over some of her other uncle’s plot contributions. Moreover, there would be a link: both Daeny and Yara have been dispossessed by treachery.
Well, we might not get it in the book, either! It is only speculation that this will happen. (Speculation with support, obviously: but still speculation.)
I agree, this is a problem. However, that means that the show has to rely on cues to show time elapsing. Often we make them without thinking: it is autumn in one scene, then there is snow and XMas decorations in the next, so we go “Ah! 1-2 months elapsed!” Distance should do that, too. And for some people, it works just fine. But for others, it does not.
(In all honesty, what I sometimes think that some fans want is another 4-5 hours of screen time showing the travel….)
Some Lord of the Rings fans complained about this. The several week journey from Rivendell took only a few minutes! Others pointed out: “um, look at how much the background changes: it would take weeks of hiking to do that.” And the retort was: “I didn’t notice that” or “maybe they can change over a mile or two.” And what I soon realized is that those of us who had spent lots of time hiking and/or in mountains, etc., just reflexively “saw” the time elapsed: and those who had not did not.
I have never seen a good solution to this conundrum.
I just had a thought that what if the White Walkers are a metaphor for societies inability to address major problems due to our pride and desire for wealth and power.
The North screams we have to do something while the South and even when Danny invades don’t take them seriously enough till its too late. They do too little too late and the realm is more or less destroyed.
As far as the passage of time on this show goes, it doesn’t make any sense. The writers have talked vaguely about the idea that one season = one year, but there are individual things within the show that contradict that (the oft-cited Gilly’s baby, Sansa’s age on being married to Tyrion, etc.), and in most storylines it’s utterly impossible to fit a year’s worth of events into it (the whole King’s Landing story in Season 4, for instance, feels like it takes place over a few weeks at most, which mirrors the passage of time in the book).
I don’t blame the writers for this, though, even if some individual plot points are clumsy (Walda’s pregnancy is a big one). The novels weren’t written to be adapted into a TV series set over several years, and it’s particularly difficult to balance all these different storylines which were originally conceived as individual chapters that mostly don’t have to sync up.
Even accounting for the overall implausibility of the seasons lasting years, you have to assume each individual storyline is proceeding on its own timeline. For instance, in the Season 6 premiere, all the stuff with Sansa and Theon must be happening weeks before the events at the Wall. Indeed, all the events at the Wall in episodes 1-3 cover what is probably about 72 hours at most, but in other stories clearly considerably more time than that has passed.
The problem with the novels is that the events happening in them would take much more time than GRRM seems to give them. But I also think that the modern world distorts our idea of how much time should elapse. This is a world in which running a message across a city would take a day. Missives between cities would take multiple days: and often not make it a all. A boat trip is days and even weeks. And all of this accomplishes stuff that we have become used to thinking of as instantaneous, or happening within 24 hours. So, yes, the King’s Landing stuff is a few weeks of action: but a few weeks of action distributed over weeks of sitting around waiting for stuff to happen. The latter is excised because it’s really, really dull.
On the Gilly’s baby note, though, I was amused to see how much older the kid seemed to be this year: he is (or, more probably, they are) a toddler now! But, then: had we actually seen the kid in a while?
But, again, just use distance as time and it makes much more sense. If there is a big distance involved, then days or weeks elapsed. Littlefinger isn’t teleporting: we are time-skipping.
Some of that might be the case, but given the nature of this story (which is driven by the evolution of a few protagonists), it cannot be the primary theme. That would really be much more of a plot-driven story: people do or do not do the right thing a la Lord of the Rings.
Indeed, we are at the point where the North has yet to realize this peril. If the Umbers knew why the Wildlings were invading Westeros, then they would be far more terrified of the prospect of White Walkers breaching the Wall than of the Wildling invasion. However, they do not, and they do not have any good reason to do so. The Walkers are such an old fairy tale that even the people to whom those fairy tales belong do not believe them anymore. And the people with different fairy tales (i.e., all of the southerners) really are not going to take it seriously. After all, my fairy tales are proper religious beliefs: your fairy tales are superstitions.
No, the action in KL is quite contained. Tyrion is thrown in jail, tried, trial by combat ensues, and then he awaits execution. The only action requiring any meaningful period is Gregor’s coming to the city from wherever he was.
Another comparisons: Arya and the Hound spend basically all of Season 4 traveling from the Inn at the Crossroads to the Bloody Gate, a distance of only a few hundred miles. In that same period, Stannis sends a message to the Iron Bank, gets a response, sails to Braavos himself, sails back to Dragonstone, then transports his entire army to the Wall and marches inland. And after getting to the Bloody Gate in episode 8, the same time as Tyrion’s trial by combat, Arya then covers the entire distance she and the Hound had covered in the preceding seven episodes between episodes 9-10, and does this before Tyrion is set to be executed even though there shouldn’t be any meaningful time between trial and execution.
Well, the dragons are tied to Valyria, so I assume that has to play a role as well. It would be nice if we knew more about the doom. Was that an attack (carried out by the Faceless Men, perhaps?) on the magical source, which caused the dragons to slowly die out? And only the rise of R’hollor and the Great Other/WWs has made it possible to bring them back to life? Or was it some kind of accident, caused by the overuse and exploitation of magic, as the Summerhall stuff suggests?
How it relates to the endgame, my initial assumption was that the dragons (and possibly Dany by extension) need to be stopped/convinced to agree to a peace and it was Jon’s big task to do this and bring “balance to the force”, so to speak – to restore the balance of power between ice (the Great Other, who may simply be the NK on the show) and fire (R’hllor) in order to prevent the destruction of all life. As I became more convinced that none of the gods exist, I kind of ignored this endgame possibility until you pointed out how R’hollor could very well not be a god and still exist.
Wimsey,
“If the Umbers knew why the Wildlings were invading Westeros, then they would be far more terrified of the prospect of White Walkers breaching the Wall”
Yea but half of Castle Black had hands on experience with what was coming and even they couldn’t see the big picture, granted they tend to be the “less educated.” I think the North will still be resistant to fully buy in until they start seeing the affects. Jon/ Sansa need to defeat Boltons and rally the North and explain to the bannermen. I agree the South thinks the North are a superstitious lot, i like your analysis of that.
Maybe Westeros starts to get on the same page but I think Danny will complicate this matter even further. She will come in with her “noble” idea of conquest and ruin or hinder the efforts up north. At some point there has to be a reunion between Jon and Tyrion tho to set things strait I imagine and get on the same page. On that note i wonder if Varys ever gets word about Jon Lord Commander Snow being assassinated.. would be an interesting scene for Tyrion to get that news and reflect on Jon. I think some people need to hear about the assassination of Jon to add to his legend once he comes around.
I was also assuming that at some point in the travel that Sansa be taught at least to use a dagger for protection ( in book she brought one to the Godswood), maybe some time off screen Cersei talked to Tyrion and told him what happened in the throne room and Pod could had her some of it from Tyrion as they were going over the books.
And what happened at Winterfell to help her heal, but they will gloss over most of KL no doubt.
I think in show Sansa did notice something about WW, her eyes widened when it was brought to Joffery.
She definitely noticed it in book, because she tells us what have they done to her father’s sword.
ETA: already stated above.
Totally unspoilery, but in the books, Samwell’s dad isn’t at Hornhill, but he does intend to drop Gilly off there.
Wimsey,
huntermac87,
This had been addressed as early as season 2, episode 2, but dismissed as superstition – and only warning about wights, not White Walkers, whom even Eddard Stark had dismissed, not as fairy tales, but as “gone for thousands of years”.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_GaEmV0Z5c
If Stannis had sent ravengrams to all of the Seven Kingdoms (as he had done denouncing Joffrey as a bastard born of incest) based on Melisandre’s visions (in which he did not entirely believe) warning about the White Walkers returning, his credibility as a potentially rightful king (or even as a sane individual) would have been seriously undermined.
And the Iron Throne was his main, if not only, concern.
No one will believe in the White Walkers until they see them with their own eyes, which may be soon enough
Conan Troutman,
Wimsey,
Fire consumes, leaving at its end nought but ash
(the flipside of fire as a life-preserving element)
Thousands of years ago Valyrians stumble on the first dragon eggs in the mountains of the Fourteen Fires. I cannot imagine shepherds could hatch dragon eggs and bind such creatures to their will… But, whatever AID they must have had is lost to history
You just have to love these little -official- pieces of lore…
So full of Easter Eggs and foreshadowing…
At 1:51 a stream of dragon fire is edited before an immediate shot of the sun, while “Warrior of Light” (or one of its variations) is playing in the background, making a (misleading?) connection between (dragon)fire, the sun and R’hllor
Conan Troutman,
Wimsey,
Daegon,
Haven’t you just seen the pictures from next episode above?
there’s pictures of Davos, Tormund and Edd at CASTLE BLACK lol
Sansa only interacted with arya of all of her siblings though. And as sansa never said anything bad at all about jon on the show, casual watchers have no idea how their relationship was back at Winterfell. Also, any stark reunion will be at the very least emotional. They all have been through hell since they left winterfell so it is very likely that they’ll have a sweet reunion no matter how they felt about each other before. Let’s not forget sansa was a complete different person when the show started, a child to be precise. They’re family, they grew up together and they’ve been apart from any relative for too long.
R+L=J&M!!!
ghost of winterfell,
Jon: Where did the Lannisters get Valyrian Steel?
Brienne: IDK
Sansa: Ser Ilyn Payne used my father’s sword to cut off his head.
Jon: It’s too small to be Ice.
I think Brienne will ask
He’ll either tell her or she’ll figure it out.
Rygritte,
Jaime did tell Brienne that Oathkeeper came from Ice. Brienne may have come to her own conclusions about the rest of the steel.
Anybody else having problems here with their posts repeatedly disappearing? No message that they’re being moderated – just poof!
I’m been saying for ages that if GRRM truly wants to mess with our minds, he’ll tell us in the epilogue to the final book that Sweetrobin lived to a ripe old age and was renowned throughout the land for his wisdom, strength, compassion, justice and generosity during his long, peaceful, prosperous reign as Lord of the Vale. What could be more GRRMishly perverse than that?
Conan Troutman,
I agree with Wimsey that Bran’s visions are but a taste of the debunking revelations to come – even more so if they concern events that took place thousands of years before.
If indeed there are/were dragons dwelling in the cliff caves of the Shadow Lands, I would think that Asshai-by-the-Shadow is where they originally came from, as incarnations of fire.
Let’s assume that a many-faced deity (currently posing as R’hllor, an Assha’i’ term and religion) is sending humans in waves from Essos to Westeros over the millenia, with more advanced weapons each time, driven by visions and/or necessity, possibly to be used as pawns against his primordial enemy, the Great Other.
The Andals’ Seven-Pointed Star and Nymeria’s Red Sun emblem could indicate something like that.
At some point he/it decides to turn the Valyrians from mere shepherds into one of the greatest empires ever, by providing them with dragons, knowledge of how to tame and ride them, knowledge of blood magic and the creation of the spell-forged Valyrian steel, made with Fire & Blood (basically the best weapons against the White Walkers and their dead thralls).
He could very well have been the cause of the Doom, whether it was some sort of punishment or just the next step towards the Targaryens relocating to the volcanic Dragonstone (full of obsidian, by the way) and eventually invading Westeros.
Compare this with Daenys the Dreamer’s prophetic visions (dragon dreams?) and Hugor of the Hill’s vision of the God of the Seven.
The hot, red blood coursing through the humans’ veins could even be an indication that R’hllor created humans as well.
The same hot blood that the Others/White Walkers smelled on the Last Hero, from Old Nan’s tale (books’ version, so far).
And so we have a Lovecraftian deity, whose main elements seem to be fire, blood, lies, deception and many faces, whom (according to Thoros of Myr in season 3) All Men Must Serve (Valar Dohaeris), being concurrent with some of the most basic recurring themes of the show and the books.
Cross-reference this with the descriptions of Asshai & the Shadow Lands from the books and every mention of the sun & the stars, both in the show and the books (the hexagonal patterns on the Red Priests’ clothes and jewelry most probably represent stars) to get a more complete picture on whether this deity aims to only help humankind.
P.S.#1
Water was used in Jon Snow’s resurrection ritual, despite him being -presumably- raised by R’hllor. Allegedly, the Children of the Forest (via the Hammer of the Waters) and the Rhoynar used Water Magic.
This could potentially allude to the Faceless Men’s belief (there is only one god), but how & where this all fits I simply can’t guess. Only that the Azor Ahai (be it one or more persons) is another pawn, manipulated as everyone else towards an unknown end (wiping out humankind – Valar Morghulis? Defeating the Great Other?).
P.S.#2
If Varys’ personal castration story was entirely true (were the sorcerer’s lips sown only so he could not shout from inside his crate?), then the voice he heard in the flames was most probably R’hllor’s and the practice of offering male genitalia in a burning ritual seems identical to the offerings of the Unsullied to their Lady of Spears, most probably another face/assumed identity of R’hllor.
P.S.#3
There is a nice little easter egg about all this in the last episode, when the first thing shown inside Qyburn’s lab is a small astrolabe (a greek word translated as “star-taker”) being picked up by a child/bird, as a direct reference to one of the biggest possible easter eggs in the show:
the astrolabe included most prominently in the opening titles sequence, containing the Sun
Firannion,
You accidentally (?) submitted the same post six times, so the system treated them as spam. I released one of the posts.
Lonald,
Doesnt
Peter D. doesn’t have good dialogue at the moment but I still like to see him.
I’m hoping that Tyrion will be in trouble at some point and the dragons he was kind to come to protect him. I want Tyrion to be responsible for the big holes in the Red Keep that we saw in the House of the Undying.
And even more interestingly, the Khals behind him don’t show the same expression on their faces yet; plus they are all inside. So it’s not like Khal Moro has just seen Drogon land somewhere. But he’s seen something, that shocks him. I think it’s Daenerys starting a very big blaze. 🙂
Can this episode please just happen already?!?! Its been like 6 years since last week come on
The Sybian,
That’s great stuff! I still don’t think he/it is an actual god (maybe some sorcerer who found a way to make himself immortal or something like that, think about a highly advanced version of Bloodraven), but the connections with Valyria and the Targaryens you pointed out make a lot of sense.
I’m curios about Kinvara, who’s probably going to show up very soon. I always expected Mel to end up in Dany’s camp trying to convert her, but it seems they’re having a new character for that. Makes me think about Mel’s role. Jon should be the one to end the war, but if he isn’t teaming up with Dany to fight the WWs (which shouldn’t be that hard of a fight, so there has to be something else) and Dany is doing R’hllor’s bidding, why did Mel see Jon in her visions? Maybe she also gets visions from the Great Other now, who’s trying to sabotage her efforts. Or R’hllor and the Great Other are one and the same or working together and he/it/they are orchestrating the destruction of all life from both sides (the WWs in the north and the dragons from the south/east).
Hahahaha 😀 😀 😀 LOL
Yeah, I was going to make a similar comment, but saw yours first! So I wonder whose tits he’s suckling off now since Lady Lysa did her disappearing act through the Moon Door assisted with the help of Lord Petyr ‘Littlefinger’ Baelish? 😀
New images for the coming episodes maybe?? & that may be Jon or Davos she’s facing??
https://67.media.tumblr.com/8a9bda0eba272cb9567e443580d90b3e/tumblr_o5i489Ggqc1v0fudro1_540.jpg
Lady_Firefly,
Not really new. They’re lightened up screencaps from one of the trailers. Could be someone at the Wall, sure.
kakakakte,
Just before I scrolled down and read your post I said to my better half, “FFS! It’s been like 10 years since Game of Thrones has been on!”
” It was just on a week ago…”
“Exactly! God!…”
So, I feel ya.
Conan Troutman,
Makes sense to think all the deities (including R’hllor – I wonder what the word itself translates as in the “common tongue”) are just mummer’s gods, that is, personifications of an impersonal/faceless reactivated force: magic.
But compelling evidence indicate (misleadingly so?) that at least R’hllor is a sentient, active entity, a fifth dimentional being like e.g. Griffin in Men In Black 3 or Jacob in LOST, but far more godlike apparently, depending on one’s definition. And he/it has, I believe, been assuming many alternative names and identities since the dawn of time.
So it all comes down to whether there are 2 gods at war, in which case R’hllor has been sending humans, his foul creations, to rape the virgin landscape of Dawn Age Westeros, where the Children, the Giants and the (C)old Gods had been living in harmony. And then again on 3 later occasions (Andals, Rhoynar maybe, and Targaryens), pushing the original inhabitants further north and away from memory.
An interesting theory suggests the White Walkers could be another one of the Children’s conjuring spells that sort of backfired and became unbound.
But if there is only one deity, the only possible explanation I can think of is that everything that has been happening since the Dawn Age are attempts at the most effective way to wipe out all life, as you suggested…
Nice little play on Valar Dohaeris/Morghulis on tonight’s “Book of the Stranger”:
– You are not here to serve, you are here to die.
So Kinvara is introduced on the next one, but not sure how close she is to converting Daenerys personally, but there might still be time for that. Apparently all of R’hllor’s clergy has declared her Azor Ahai come again, but she remains (temporarily?) oblivious of it. The closest equivalent to Melisandre (in Daenerys’ case) that comes to mind is Quaithe. Even if she is not a red priestess, it became almost obvious on the show that she is another agent of R’hllor and in the books she certainly was working towards that direction.
I hope she gets to reappear – she must have interesting things to reveal.
Have you read the leaked Kinvara audition script from back in September?
In the books Melisandre prays to R’hllor for a glimpse of Azor Ahai and he showed her snow. Is it his fault his 400-year old, supposedly best visions interpreter could not get that memo…?!
But seriously, I would think that R’hllor has no inhibitions whatsoever to deceive/manipulate his own followers (who are there to serve him, in any case), as in the case of Melisandre with Stannis, in order for a chain of events to unfold and lead her to Jon. If Daenerys seems like R’hllor’s “champion” and Bran Stark the Great Other’s, I can’t guess how Jon fits into all this as the Song of Ice & Fire and whether he is receiving “help” (manipulation?) from both sides…
Too many dots to connect, too few info…
Nerding it out a bit about fighting the White Walkers, if the dragons remain airborne, raining fire from above, they should make short work of them and the Wights, provided the latter don’t use:
1. projectile weapons (a young, inexperienced Drogon came close to being killed by a few Sons of the Harpy with spears & daggers).
2. Ice Dragons and/or Spiders (if they are included at all).
But, if they decide/are forced to land, that’s a whole new ballgame…
Notice what Julian Glover (Pycelle) says at 2:14 on the dragonlore video above:
“Thousands [of men] died, but, through sheer numbers and madness, five of the Targaryen dragons laid dead by the morning”.
Sheer numbers & madness.
Now think of an Army of the Dead that numbers from 500.000 to a million 🙂
https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/1278325324003770515.JPG
http://38.media.tumblr.com/c871665ca9bb89bd97ded78fb059182c/tumblr_npeg5yAc8U1tyw996o1_500.gif
AlexG,
By my count, Jansa won and Jonsa came in second.