[Updated with more images!] New photos from Game of Thrones Season 6, Episode 2 “Home”

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Ellie Kendrick as Meera Reed. Photo: HBO/Helen Sloan

HBO has released a fresh batch of photos from the second episode of Game of Thrones season 6. The episode, which will be called “Home,” features the return of characters such as Yara and Balon Greyjoy, and Bran Stark and Meera Reed. We can also look forward to the debut of legendary actor Max von Sydow in the role of the Three-Eyed Raven.

Official episode synopsis: Bran (Isaac Hempstead Wright) trains with the Three-Eyed Raven (Max von Sydow). In King’s Landing, Jaime (Nikolaj Coster-Waldau) advises Tommen (Dean-Charles Chapman). Tyrion (Peter Dinklage) demands good news, but has to make his own. At Castle Black, the Night’s Watch stands behind Thorne (Owen Teale). Ramsay Bolton (Iwan Rheon) proposes a plan, and Balon Greyjoy (Patrick Malahide) entertains other proposals.

Photos below the cut!

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Owen Teale as Alliser Thorne.

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Ben Crompton as Dolorous Edd

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Patrick Malahide as Balon Greyjoy and Gemma Whelan as Yara Greyjoy

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Isaac Hempstead Wright as Bran Stark

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Conleth Hill as Varys and Nathalie Emmanuel as Missandei


Update 4/28: We have more new episode 2 images today, courtesy of Scroll.in. Thanks to Diana for the tip!

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Maisie Williams as Arya Stark

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Paul Rattray as Harald Karstark

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Michael McElhatton as Roose Bolton

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Max von Sydow as the Three-Eyed Raven

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Julian Glover as Grand Maester Pycelle and Dean-Charles Chapman as King Tommen Baratheon

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Peter Dinklage as Tyrion Lannister

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Gemma Whelan as Yara Greyjoy

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Jacob Anderson as Grey Worm

Olly

Brenock O’Connor as Olly

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Conleth Hill as Varys

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    1. Looking forward to it

      Bran in particular. I;m one of the people who like the long game and so for me I actually find his chapters rather quite interesting as they are the window to past events etc

      In the case of the show this seems to be flashbacks!

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    2. Arghh! What are Edd and Thorne looking at?! A horde of Wildlings entering Castle Black? Or something more?? I *need* to know. The waiting is the hardest part!

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    3. I have to be absolutely honest and to admit that as a non reader I have always found Bran’s plot somehow boring.
      That will apparently change this season.

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    4. Joh:
      Does anyone else want to see a duel between Dolorous Edd and Alliser Thorne?

      No?

      Just me?

      I do too, just for Edd’s expression and comments in the lead up to the fight. But he’ll need to get backup very quickly (maybe from Ghost) otherwise Ser Alister would have him carved up in no time at all.

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    5. Edd back a castle Black ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
      Shit is about to go down, Down with that Cunt Thorne!!!

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    6. Aeryn Sun:
      Arghh! What are Edd and Thorne looking at?! A horde of Wildlings entering Castle Black? Or something more?? I *need* to know. The waiting is the hardest part!

      Probably Wun Wun?

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    7. I am slightly concerned after the recent Entertainment Weekly interview with Isaac Hempstead Wright. It sounds a lot like Bran ex Machina.

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    8. Joh,

      That would be fun, but not sure it would end well for Edd.

      I wonder if we will see him telling Tormund and the wildlings about Jon or if they will leave us hanging until they crash through the gates.

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    9. Bran happily witnessing young Stark children playing/training I assume.

      There’s an article on EW today with Isaac referring to Bran as “like Doctor Who.” I think I’ve been thinking too ‘small’ and ‘recent’ in what they COULD do with him. I suppose it’s not likely but they could do quick flashbacks to the Dance of the Dragons or the building of the wall.

      I could be stretching, but the pictures of Alliser and Edd sort of look like they have the lighting on their clothing and face as if there’s a fire nearby…

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    10. Glad that my girl, Meera, is back although I’m not crazy about her sitting alone outside the cave.

      And it appears that we get the first of Bran’s visions. That looks like Castle Black. Will he see the visions from the present as well as the past?

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    11. Jack Bauer 24,

      Looking at those photos again (and again, and again) there appears to be a similar glow coming off Edd and Thorne’s clothes. A glow of fire? “Something” is about to happen, I just know it!

      IT’S LIT. GET HYPED!

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    12. Hoyti Von Totiy:
      I found a better picture of that castle black horse ride, you can see that the last rider has black golves on (only Jon wears gloves) and a sword with a white pommel (longclaw).

      Behind Jon´s horse you can see someone standing in wildling clothes.

      Also the enhanced picture clearly show it is Sansa riding infront of Melisandre

      LOOK:

      http://s32.postimg.org/8o0stg35h/hype_2.jpg

      GET HYPE!

      Too funny – I laughed out loud in the middle of a meeting.

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    13. Aeryn Sun:
      Jack Bauer 24,

      Looking at those photos again (and again, and again) there appears to be a similar glow coming off Edd and Thorne’s clothes. A glow of fire? “Something” is about to happen, I just know it!

      IT’S LIT. GET HYPED!

      GOOD CALL – ABSOLUTELY LOOKS LIKE THE GLOW FROM A FIRE – OH WOW!!!

      I’m still thinking Jon will be up and about, in whatever form, in episode 3.

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    14. Cersei’s Brain,

      I believe that Bryan Cogman mentioned on the DVD commentary for “The Laws of Gods and Men” that Yara’s failed attempt to rescue Theon from the Dreadfort would have consequences. She disobeyed Balon’s direct order in order to go save him, and she’s coming home with nothing to show for it. Perhaps she returns to Pyke and discovers that her father, who once looked at her as his preferred heir with such pride, has lost some serious respect for her. I expect she’s in for some cold disapproval at best, and being threatened with a serious loss of status at worst.

      Of course, Theon will be returning home, but Balon will be dead by then. I also think that Yara’s raid on the Dreadfort will be brought up during the Kingsmoot by Euron, who will mockingly cite it as one of the many reasons why she shouldn’t rule.

      mariamb,

      Everyone’s excited for the return of Bran and Hodor, as am I. But I’m very much looking forward to seeing Meera again as well. Then again … I think she’ll be in a pretty dark place. I doubt that she’s gotten over her brother’s death (particularly since she had to mercy-kill him herself). Sitting in a cave for months probably hasn’t helped her discover a new sense of purpose either. I expect that she’ll be feeling pretty lost.

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    15. Remember how the metadata for some of the initial Season 6 photos included what episode they were in? Do we know what episode the pic of Davos standing above rising smoke was?

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    16. For those of you who know him, Rygar has been having a tough time logging on, but asked me to pass along a sincere and heartfelt…

      “Penis!”

      To everyone. 🙂

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    17. What a lovely final picture of Thorne. I hope his hands are tied behind his back. As someone else had mentioned, it would be wonderful for him to witness the res of Jon!

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    18. I’m wondering. With Bran growing so fast, where is he getting his clothes from? Is Meera constantly altering them? Where would she get anything but fur up beyond the wall?

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    19. I’m glad former NBA player Shawn Bradley was available to step in for Isaac Hempstead Wright.

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    20. James Rivers:
      Remember how the metadata for some of the initial Season 6 photos included what episode they were in? Do we know what episode the pic of Davos standing above rising smoke was?

      Episode 4.

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    21. Aeryn Sun:
      Arghh! What are Edd and Thorne looking at?! A horde of Wildlings entering Castle Black? Or something more?? I *need* to know. The waiting is the hardest part!

      Ive noticed that often times these photos are set photos and arent screen shots. So, who knows.

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    22. Roberta Baratheon:
      I’m wondering.With Bran growing so fast, where is he getting his clothes from?Is Meera constantly altering them?Where would she get anything but fur up beyond the wall?

      jojenfur

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    23. Jack Bauer 24:
      Doesn’t Wun Wun break through the gate this episode?

      I have a very strong feeling that he does, looks like episode 2 is going to have the Wildlings storm Castle Black.

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    24. Aeryn Sun:
      Jack Bauer 24,

      Looking at those photos again (and again, and again) there appears to be a similar glow coming off Edd and Thorne’s clothes. A glow of fire? “Something” is about to happen, I just know it!

      IT’S LIT. GET HYPED!

      Jon’s rez will surely be a cliffhanger in whatever episode it’s in.

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    25. Soo,

      Tower of Joy Episode 3??

      Looks that way, seeing Bran in Winterfell is obviously the vision of his father when he was a kid.

      H Y P E

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    26. I’m loving all the callbacks to earlier seasons and characters from several seasons ago coming back. Good batch of photos to whet the appetite (which is almost thoroughly whetted already) for Ep 2.

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    27. Vegodread,

      I dont see a definitive white pomel, but I do see the gloves, and that picture is chopped, so I cant see who is riding in front of Melissandre. But who the hell is behind her? Looks like a demon woman!

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    28. Nymeria Warrior Queen:
      For those of you who know him, Rygar has been having a tough time logging on, but asked me to pass along a sincere and handfelt…

      “Penis!”

      To everyone.

      You didn´t quote him right. Fixed it for you.

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    29. James Rivers,

      There was also a very similar pic of Mel on the CB walkways with smoke rising out of the courtyard below her.

      I too would love to see Thorne’s face when Jon is rezzed. I personally want Mel to fail just do he can wake up in the pyre.

      It would be cool especially if the ToJ is in ep 3 (like Luke Roberts said on twitter) and it explains to those who hadn’t put the clues together why it happened.

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    30. I have not looked at the pics (just like to keep some visuals a surprise, but most of your comments are increasing my hyppppeeeeeeeee

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    31. West of Moon:
      James Rivers,

      There was also a very similar pic of Mel on the CB walkways with smoke rising out of the courtyard below her.

      I too would love to see Thorne’s face when Jon is rezzed. I personally want Mel to fail just do he can wake up in the pyre.

      About the

      Tower of Joy in episode 3, it appears it might be, in the description for episode 3 it says “Bran sees the past” which we assumed was the Winterfell vision, but it appears to be in the next episode this sunday. So, Tower of Joy episode 3?

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    32. Mods-please can you sort out the website? It’s been playing up for well over a week now even after clearing cache/browsing history (which is a pain anyway as we need to be able to revisit sites sometimes). Namaste! 🙏🏻

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    33. Ghosts Lunch,

      I read the first four books before the show was announced, and through that first read-through Bran was my favorite character. My username on here is a reference to Bran. Can’t wait for his storyline this season!

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    34. IceKhione,

      Since the Stranger refers to death in the new gods faith,this means that it’s the book of the dead,probably something to do with Arya’s storyline .

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    35. TheMannis,

      Uuuh, interesting.

      It may have something to do with the High Sparrow and the King’s Landing plot. “The Book of the Stranger” must be the Stranger section of the Seven-Pointed Star (the Faith’s bible.) Maybe it’s mentioned in the talk between Tommen and the High Sparrow seen in the trailers about everyone deserving death.

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    36. I don’t know. I’m just not excited about them possibly burning the body in the next episode. Mainly because I don’t think that’s how they’ll bring that person back, due to it being a bit too bizarre for the casual viewers (although it would be awesome for us). If anything it just means they are trying to headfake us and destroy our hopes, only to have a big reveal later on that what we thought we were watching wasn’t really that persons body burning.

      I personally think it’s just the camera lighting since these are photos and not final images from the broadcast footage. Doesn’t mean that body burning isn’t coming in the next episode, but either way I’m guessing Thorne isn’t there to watch it.

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    37. Jack Bauer 24:
      Where’s LF? Walder Frey? Lancel Lannister/Faith? Bronn? Sam/Gilly? Rickon/Osha/Shaggydog?

      We don’t know lol, we are not Bran. We will find out in the episodes to come.

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    38. Joh,

      Does anyone else want to see a duel between Dolorous Edd and Alliser Thorne?

      This got me thinking of who I’d like to see in a villains melee. Thorne, Ellaria, SS, Late Frey, Ramsay, Joff, Rorge & Biter (tag team of course), Big Craster, Janos, Locke/VH, Viserys and Styr. Melee winner faces Robert Strong in single combat with NO rest period. Winner of that gets eaten by Drogon.

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    39. Well the Stranger is
      *One of the Seven ie Death/Many Faced God so could be dealing with death and resurrection. JON
      *Or the Hound’s horse-who is named Stranger
      *Or Arya-who is training to be FM
      *Or the book of the dead as in past visions from Bran
      *Or the arrival of Benjen? 🙂
      That title is very promising with a lot of possibilities.

      Home on the other hand…I’ve got nothing. No one is close to going or being home.

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    40. Were there filming reports about smoke/fire near Winterfell set??? I thought there were.

      It’s probably burning dead after the Wildlings/Edd/Davos vs. Thorne/allies conflict. Afterall, if Edd and Davos are walking around, it can’t be that the loyalists and Wildlings were totally defeated.

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    41. Nadia:
      Were there filming reports about smoke/fire near Winterfell set??? I thought there were.

      It’s probably burning dead after the Wildlings/Edd/Davos vs. Thorne/allies conflict. Afterall, if Edd and Davos are walking around, it can’t be that the loyalists and Wildlings were totally defeated.

      There were filming reports of smoke coming from the set for Castle Black. That could very well be what it is.

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    42. I just finished work and omg MEEEEEEEERAAAAAAA!! I missed her! I hope we get some long scenes with Bran and his crew.

      Allister and Edd’s photos look like they were taken during a filming break.

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    43. Jack Bauer 24,

      Oh that’s right. Okay. I’m not sure Theon could get back home by episode 2 but Euron could definitely show up and Bran will absolutely be seeing Winterfell in brighter days. Thanks

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    44. Anyone else notice the green, elegant fabric in the ‘shopped pic with Stoneheart inserted behind Melisandre? Looks like a woman’s cloak or end of a dress.

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    45. Deesensfan,

      I think there’s a 0% chance that Jon gets resurrected via fire burning. That’s crazy.

      1) It ruins everything that made Dany’s moment birthing the dragons unique or magical or as truly awe-inspiring as it was. Even GRRM talks about it being this spectacularly unique moment.

      2) There’s no evidence that you have to be resurrected via fire. Remember, Jon is the song of ICE and fire. Dany is pure fire. I don’t think just fire will resurrect him. We’ve seen resurrections on this and in the book that have nothing to do with burning.

      3) It is far far far far more likely that any fire we see is burning the dead from a conflict, not burning Jon Snow’s body.

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    46. What’s with the damage to Thorne’s armor? It could be the gash Tormund inflicted back in season 4, but surely that would of been repaired by now?

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    47. Vegodread:

      GOOD CALL – ABSOLUTELY LOOKS LIKE THE GLOW FROM A FIRE – OH WOW!!!

      I’m still thinking Jon will be up and about, in whatever form, in episode 3.

      It really does. My heart is racing just thinking about it.

      It would make the most sense for this to happen in episode 2, if Bran is going to be learning about the Tower of Joy in ep 3. They’d have to explain how the events of ep 2 were possible! Just imagine how ep 2 could end:

      Edd: I didn’t know fire brought back wolves.

      Melisandre: Looks into the flames. Not wolves. Dragons.

      Audience: 😶😶😶😶😶😶😶 / 😃😃😃😃😃😃😃

      Is it Sunday yet?!?!

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    48. Not sure if any of these are spoilery given what we have found out from the trailers and promo pics, but Home could refer to…

      Sansa convincing Brienne and co that she wants to rally the North to retake her home from the Boltons, Bran seeing visions of Winterfell in the past, Theon deciding it is time to return to the Iron Islands, Arya having some sort of wolf-dream connection with Nymeria (as in the books – wondering if they will do this in the show though), Cercei’s exploits back home at the Red Keep…

      Several of these shots look quite staged – not sure the Thorne and Edd shots are live action shots, more set photos as someone suggested. The trailer and footage that was released shows the battle taking place at night, so I’d be surprised if Edd ands Thorne would be hanging out in the day time making faces at one another.

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    49. Isabelle: It really does. My heart is racing just thinking about it.

      It’s a misdirection. Eddie doesn’t look as happy as one would look of Jon was back alive.

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    50. It looks Edd and Alliser photo is from the same moment. It looks like pyre is burning or something. Smoke was coming from Castle Black set and it might be it. Also Davos was standing there and smoke around him. That means wildings are there too since Edd was going for them. He’ll come with them eventually. .Alliser still alive and shouldn’t be if Edd and Wildlings are there. Interesting.

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    51. Nadia,

      The ‘one time magical event’ for Dany being fireproof is only in the books. Filming news indicates that

      In episode 4 Drogon burns shit down and Dany comes out of the tent unburnt, making the Dothraki bow before her

      I personally do not see Jon getting resurrected by fire in the books, but I think he might in the show. It would make his ‘rebirth’ more climatic and basically confirm him as ‘The Lords Chosen.’ The show also like Jon/Dany parallels.
      When the Jon loyalists carried his body away, Davos also stopped to look at the blood. While people have been saying it looks like a dragon, I think he was surprised by the property of it. It did not look frozen, which it should have been given the temperature. It could have been hinting towards his (warm) dragon blood.

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    52. Nadia,

      I would agree with that-but then I think-why wouldn’t Jon be added to the pile? There has to be some reason they’d risk zombie Jon by not burning him. Something has to happen in Episode 2 to give someone hope that he can be saved or…

      we’re not seeing the scene we think we’re seeing. Which is always a possibility.

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    53. Jack Bauer 24:

      It’s a misdirection. Eddie doesn’t look as happy as one would look of Jon was back alive.

      If he’s watching his friend’s body burn, I doubt he’d look very happy. I’m guessing that’s what the picture’s showing.

      Regardless, the very idea of a pyre is getting me hyped. Who knows what could happen?!

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    54. bransnow:
      Nadia,

      The ‘one time magical event’ for Dany being fireproof is only in the books. Filming news indicates that

      I personally do not see Jon getting resurrected by fire in the books, but I think he might in the show. It would make his ‘rebirth’ more climatic and basically confirm him as ‘The Lords Chosen.’ The show also like Jon/Dany parallels.
      When the Jon loyalists carried his body away, Davos also stopped to look at the blood. While people have been saying it looks like a dragon, I think he was surprised by the property of it. It did not look frozen, which it should have been given the temperature.It could have been hinting towards his (warm) dragon blood.

      Jon is burned by a lantern in the fight with the Wight in Season 2.

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    55. Hoyti Von Totiy,

      I have a feeling thats Davos on the bay horse behind mel. Notice the rider is holding the reins one handed, which davos would likely do with missing fingers on his right hand (and that hand kinda looks like its missing its fingers, which davos always has gloved..)

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    56. Next episode is one of Tyrions best lines! “That’s what I do, I drink and I know things” AMAZING

      The God of Tits and Wine!

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    57. bransnow,

      My point is that it’s a Dany related thing. She is the Mother of Dragons.
      1) Jon burns
      2) He’s equally ICE and fire
      3) The ONLY example of resurrection on the show is done without fire. There’s no reason to burn Jon to resurrect him.

      Why they wouldn’t add Jon’s body? Because he’s either been resurrected by then – which is why Thorne is still alive and still Davos/Edd etc are all walking around – or his body is gone.

      People are going way overboard on the blood thing. I think Davos was merely looking at how much he’s bleed out, ie he’s been dead by multiple stabs for a while.

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    58. bransnow,

      I personally thought of a dragon when I was first watching, and of course on every rewatch I can’t see anything but. Whether or not it’s suppose to be anything specific, I find it odd that they made a point to have Davos seemingly study it as well as show it. D&D know people were trying to say the blood was forming an image after the finale last year. Could it be something as trivial as a little Easter egg towards those ideas, or could they have thought that was a good idea to place something significant? I guess we’ll find out…

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    59. Connor:
      Soo,

      Looks that way, seeing Bran in Winterfell is obviously the vision of his father when he was a kid.

      H Y P E

      Yes, I think we will. Luke Roberts wrote on Twitter a couple of days ago to look for him in ep 3!

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    60. If they had to cut down on the cast I still wish they would have killed off Meera instead of Jojen. Jojen is a much more interesting character and adds a lot more to the story.

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    61. JamesL:
      If they had to cut down on the cast I still wish they would have killed off Meera instead of Jojen. Jojen is a much more interesting character and adds a lot more to the story.

      How does Jojen add anything at all once they arrive to the Three-eyed raven and Bran himself becomes a master of his magic? Jojen was a fine spiritual guide, but his role was done the minute they arrived at the cave. Meanwhile, Meera has always been defined by her role as the protector —Jojen’s, and then Bran’s. That hasn’t changed and probably won’t for a while, and Bran will be in danger again I’m sure, so Meera almost by definition adds more to the story right now. And if any exposition is needed on the Reeds or anything like that, of course Meera can do that too.

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    62. Hoyti Von Totiy:
      I found a better picture of that castle black horse ride, you can see that the last rider has black golves on (only Jon wears gloves) and a sword with a white pommel (longclaw).

      Behind Jon´s horse you can see someone standing in wildling clothes.

      Also the enhanced picture clearly show it is Sansa riding infront of Melisandre

      LOOK:

      http://s32.postimg.org/rjbc2wu7p/picture_2.jpg

      GET HYPE!

      hahaha – I feel like I just got Rickrolled.

      Nice to see Balon will have some interactions before Euron arrives. I thought they might just show him once.

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    63. Laura: Nice to see Balon will have some interactions before Euron arrives. I thought they might just show him once.

      I thought so too, but thinking about it, it would’ve been weird. We haven’t seen him since season three. We haven’t really spent any significant amount of time with Balon since the middle of season two, when he was introduced! In other words, he needs to be reintroduced —Through Yara, who we are more acquainted with.

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    64. Jack Bauer 24: Jon is burned by a lantern in the fight with the Wight in Season 2.

      True, but when has the show ever been known for continuity? Also, Jon will be getting resurrected, it will be a magical event either way, involving some ‘higher power.’ I don’t think Jon not burning will be because of him, it will be more linked to him being azor ahai reborn. His dragon blood will just be ‘activated’ because of his death (the man is born) or whatever…Or it will be done by the will of R’hllor

      I’m not saying that I am certain it will happen, especially not in the books. But I would not rule it out. It seems like the climatic sort of visuals the show would go for, rather than some anti-climatic moment where Jon is kissed or prayed back to life, as if he was merely asleep or injured. The resurrection needs to live up to the hype and prove that Jon is Mel’s chosen one. It needs to be more special than Beric being resurrected.

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    65. Luka Nieto: I thought so too, but thinking about it, it would’ve been weird. We haven’t seen him since season three. We haven’t really spent any significant amount of time with Balon since the middle of season two, when he was introduced! In other words, he needs to be reintroduced —Through Yara, who we are more acquainted with.

      I hope this doesn’t drag out Euron’s debut. Hope to still see him this episode.

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    66. Jack Bauer 24: I hope this doesn’t drag out Euron’s debut. Hope to still see him this episode.

      I would assume so. Balon “hears several proposals”, claims one version of the synopsis. From Yara and Euron, presumably.

      Euron’s propsal may be a more like a strong suggestion of violent succession 😛

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    67. I don’t know where else to ask this… does anyone have an good quality photos of the Brienne/Sansa scene from the premiere?

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    68. That picture of Edd is scaring me.

      I hope it is just there because he will be playing a larger role this episode/season rather than because he dies this episode.

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    69. Ron Snow,

      Ye but the lighting in the BG is colder. Surely a professional photographer would match the light source unless there is another light source that justifies the colour temp.

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    70. Jack Bauer 24,

      Yeah but now he is dead and their is some residue blood magic from last season to power the transformation and to “melt the snow”.

      We also don’y know if Bran or Blood Raven will have any part in the resurrection – again the only people who know who Jon is, and what he might have been, and therefore have motivation to do something.

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    71. I am not sure we will see any funeral pyres yet in episode 2, it does seem a bit early. The most we could likely expect is a fight between the Wildlings and the Nights Watch. Perhaps if Melisandre resurrects Jon there could be a moment at the end of the episode where he just opens his eyes or something.
      Home could mean a lot of different things, Sam could be homesick, he could be missing Jon and Castle Black. Euron will return home. Dany could reach Vaes Dothrak, it was her first home with Drogo. Sansa could be thinking of taking back Winterfell. Bran will be back at Winterfell in a vision. The theme about home could be more about missing home then going home.

      It seems like the more interesting events will happen in episode 3 and episode 4. It does seem like we will get the TOJ in episode 3. So I suspect Jon will be resurrected in episode 3. He could rise from a funeral pyre or Melisandre could resurrect him. In the show I think it would actually work well to resurrect Jon on a funeral pyre. We know that Drogon will burn a Dothraki temple in episode 4, and Dany will walk out of the fire unscathed. It would be a nice parallel if Jon also walked away from the flames, especially after seeing the TOJ scenes.
      But on the other hand the show has given some focus to Melisandre, and she has had a lot of setup for this resurrection to happen.

      The Book of the Stranger is a very interesting title. It immediately makes me think of the Egyptian Book of the Dead. The Stranger is death, it is the one aspect of the seven that is not prayed to. Only the Many Faced God, acknowledges the Stranger.
      The book of the dead is about giving a person the guidance to reach the afterlife. It is tempting to connect this with resurrection, but resurrection is about leaving the afterlife so I dont know, it not quite the same thing.
      I really do hope they dont delay this resurrection until episode 4. It would become a bit preposterous to explain why Jon’s body is being kept lying around for so many episodes.

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    72. A Man Grown,

      Oh I loved him; never got bored. That is one story arc from the books that I wish was done differently in the show (and no I am not complaining, just commenting on how I feel, ok? No knife throwing allowed)
      Ron Snow,

      Might be Allistairs body…we can hope

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    73. Deesensfan,

      I think theres a vast difference to an audience between walking into a pyre and emerging unburned, and being dead as a doornail then being resurrected while burning on a funeral pyre. Its all magic, of course, and I personally wouldn’t mind the doing that, but I just don’t see them going that route for various reasons.

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    74. Definitely seems like Bran is at Winterfell, looking at a scene similar to what we saw in one of the behind the scenes videos?
      http://www.iamag.co/features/itsart/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/got-behind-scenes1.jpg

      Young Ned and young Benjen sparring with wooden swords etc. It might be when young Hodor appears too? This makes sense to me. We need a nice, easy introduction to Bran’s visions of the past. Then later they can start throwing more important, mysterious info at us like the Tower of Joy. Plus, it reminds the audience (yet again) of Benjen’s existence and if Hodor is there (perhaps we find out how he became a simpleton?) then it creates a clear past/present reference for the audience.

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    75. Nymeria Warrior Queen,

      Today is the first day in over a week that I can see new threads on this site. I missed the opportunity to ‘Penis’ the season premier thread. I probably missed the Twitter Recaps and to ‘Penis’ Kenny’s sexy bod as well.

      I demand justice. I demand a trial by combat. I demand that Yara get naked in episode two. I demand that for once, Mel gets to feel a penis inside her ‘real’ vagina. I’d say a Pycelle/Mel hook up is in order.

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    76. aabe:
      Is it just me or does Edd look smug (for a change) and Thorne look worried?

      I really think these photos are just set photos and not actual freeze frames from the episode, but clearly it does look like there is a fire.

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    77. Rygar:
      Nymeria Warrior Queen,

      Today is the first day in over a week that I can see new threads on this site.I missed the opportunity to ‘Penis’ the season premier thread.I probably missed the Twitter Recaps and to ‘Penis’ Kenny’s sexy bod as well.

      I demand justice.I demand a trial by combat.I demand that Yara get naked in episode two.I demand that for once, Mel gets to feel a penis inside her ‘real’ vagina.I’d say a Pycelle/Mel hook up is in order.

      ……………..what

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    78. I agree with the other commenters that it looks like Ser Alliser and Edd are looking at a funeral pyre; you can see the reflection in their faces. And it’s certainly possible that it’s Jon’s body that’s being burned.

      But this raises an awful possibility: what if they burn Jon’s body and . . . nothing happens. For quite some time commenters here (and elsewhere) have been talking about Jon’s return as if it’s a certainty; the only question is when. I happen to share that view. But what if we’re all wrong? What if Kit was telling the truth and that he’s only playing a corpse this season?

      In the immediate aftermath there would be a lots of talk about how the doubters were right all along and that Jon is truly, irrevocably, dead. Media stories about how one of the fan-favorite GOT characters is finally gone for good.

      Then, sometime before the end of the season, probably at a critical moment, Jon would reappear. My guess would be at the battle of the bastards, but who knows? And it will be revealed that it wasn’t Jon’s body that was burned but someone else. In other words, the Mance plot from the books, where it appeared his body was burned but he was actually alive is being reserved for Jon.

      On the TV show, we already know after last Sunday’s episode that Mel can disguise her own appearance; it isn’t too much of stretch to imagine that she can do it to someone else. Furthermore, the producers might want to crush all hope before they bring Jon back. And perhaps they want to screw with the heads of the Jon Snow fans a little bit—just before the big reveal.

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    79. Meera looks great for someone that’s been cooped up in a cave for several months. Looks like she found some hair products since her hair looks shiny and combed. Between her hair & Bran’s new do, the Children of the Forest must be running a salon in that cave.

      Yara does not look happy with daddy. I’m sure he’s belittling her for something or other.

      Bran looks, dare I say, happy watching whatever it is that happening in his WF vision. Poor kid, haven’t seen him smile in years.

      The pictures of Thorne & Edd have similar lighting, as if they’re in the same scene watching something develop. If it’s the same scene, could it be that

      Thorne survives the showdown with the Wildlings? Maybe Davos pleads for mercy for the mutineers? Maybe they’re watching Jon’s funeral procession or his funeral pyre?

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    80. When you zoom in, you can clearly see a burning pyre in Alliser’s and Edd’s eyeballs.

      Also, Meera is sitting casually outside of the cave. BLAHAHAHAHA!

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    81. Simon,

      Probably to screw with the fans and crush all of the speculation stemming from the leaks and photos from the set.

      Seriously, though, you’re right: there’s no good reason that I can think of to keep Jon’s resurrection a secret. I’m sure the writers could come up with one but there’s nothing that immediately comes to mind. But it would magnify the shock of Jon’s eventual return, and when he came back it would be a “holy crap” moment for nearly all of us.

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    82. I don’t see anyway Thorne and company can make it past this episode. There is no way him and Eddie are watching the same thing because once the Jon loyalists are out in the open, Thorne will attack.

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    83. Was it ever confirmed that the

      tent burning down in Vaes Dothrak

      was actually episode 4? Or could it also be episode 3? Didn’t the director do episodes 3 and 4?

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    84. BunBunStark:
      Meera looks great for someone that’s been cooped up in a cave for several months. Looks like she found some hair products since her hair looks shiny and combed. Between her hair & Bran’s new do, the Children of the Forest must be running a salon in that cave.

      Yara does not look happy with daddy. I’m sure he’s belittling her for something or other.

      Bran looks, dare I say, happy watching whatever it is that happening in his WF vision. Poor kid, haven’t seen him smile in years.

      The pictures of Thorne & Edd have similar lighting, as if they’re in the same scene watching something develop. If it’s the same scene, could it be that

      Looks like Edd and Thorne are posing for a photo lol, I actually think that’s what they’re doing haha.

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    85. bransnow,

      At this point, if he is rezzed by some other means (not Rh’llor), how is that going to help Mel’s current doubts and insecurities. It’s almost like she has to be the one who does it.

      She looks pretty confident again in that picture of her sitting on the horse.

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    86. Connor,

      I’ve read that theory. It’s a bit of a stretch. Not my favorite, but I can buy it. Plus…there are your three heads!

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    87. So do you think we’ll see Mel in episode 2 and will it be young or old Mel? Is Davos going to shit himself when he sees her?

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    88. Esmail,

      Exactly what I’m thinking. I remember some of the photos from last seasons episodes they released before the upcoming episode each week, and at the very least the lighting was always way different than what was in the episode.

      I’m not thinking we see Thorne and Edd both calmly walking around outside after the scenes from the trailers where they are breaking down the door and then the wildlings arrive with Wun Wun and Edd leading the way. Maybe the mutineers wil surrender, but I doubt it, especially not Thorne.

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    89. Wow at the amount of people who think that jon waking from dead in funeral pyre is same as dany walking into pyre …guys in this jon doesn’t resemble dany he resembles drogo..
      And dany’s event was set up throughout the whole season how she is resistant to heat and fire .
      Havingtarg blood does not make you fireproof ..

      Anyways I guess it will end up like always a basesless speculation similar to how every one was claiming that mel undressing is nissa nissa moment ..or atleast I hope it does .

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    90. Sullied by Knight,

      Except if he is revived on the pyre, she could see it as a sign from Rhollor which would likely cheer her up. Odds are none of the characters are going to make a connection between Jon and Targaryens, they’ll think she or her fire god did something because of the fire involved.

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    91. El-Bobbie,

      I hope not ..

      There will be no time for it to happen in episode 3 ..
      We still have dany arriving in vaes dothrak ..
      She is being stripped by dish khaleen …she is seen talking to young widows …and considering she is not seen in episode 2 sure it will be like season 3 ..

      unlike most I think the fire is started by dany herself and not drogon [ /spoiler]

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    92. Ygritte,

      She looks nothing like Jon Snow in the source material. This “theory” if you can even call it that is because they cast someone for Meera who looks somewhat like Kit Harington. It’s 51 episodes and 5 books in now. Both versions would have dropped a few hints by now if they were twins. There’s no evidence in either source material or show that they are some super secret twins.

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    93. dragonbringer:
      El-Bobbie,

      I hope not ..

      There will be no time for it to happen in episode 3 ..
      We still have dany arriving in vaes dothrak ..
      She is being stripped by dish khaleen …she is seen talking to young widows …and considering she is not seen in episode 2sure it will be like season 3 ..

      unlike most I think the fire is started by dany herself and not drogon [ /spoiler]

      Dany could have a scene in “Home”.

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    94. its nice seeing Bran(kinda) smile..we really havent seen that since Episode one
      HBO trying to drive us crazy wit those pics of Thorne and Edd ..they KNOW we will be going over every inch of them “is that flames…do I see a pyre??” to try and figure out what going on lol

      orange,

      I blame Star Wars….everyone has to have a hidden twin now 😉

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    95. Rygritte:
      When you zoom in, you can clearly see a burning pyre in Alliser’s and Edd’s eyeballs.

      Also, Meera is sitting casually outside of the cave. BLAHAHAHAHA!

      I laughed out loud.

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    96. Jack Bauer 24,

      I doubt that I guess we have to wait and see…I will be glad if she did have a scene.

      Iam sure I did add

      before in my comment …don’t know how it is vanished. ..does the site still having problems ..

      orange,

      Exactly ..
      Anyone remember how casting trystene martell made way for theories of him being aegon because he and kit have same hair .
      Look at what happened to trystene

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    97. Texan in Westeros:
      I agree with the other commenters that it looks like Ser Alliser and Edd are looking at a funeral pyre; you can see the reflection in their faces.And it’s certainly possible that it’s Jon’s body that’s being burned.

      But this raises an awful possibility:what if they burn Jon’s body and . . . nothing happens.For quite some time commenters here (and elsewhere) have been talking about Jon’s return as if it’s a certainty; the only question is when.I happen to share that view.But what if we’re all wrong?What if Kit was telling the truth and that he’s only playing a corpse this season?

      In the immediate aftermath there would be a lots of talk about how the doubters were right all along and that Jon is truly, irrevocably, dead.Media stories about how one of the fan-favorite GOT characters is finally gone for good.

      Then, sometime before the end of the season, probably at a critical moment, Jon would reappear.My guess would be at the battle of the bastards, but who knows?And it will be revealed that it wasn’t Jon’s body that was burned but someone else.In other words, the Mance plot from the books, where it appeared his body was burned but he was actually alive is being reserved for Jon.

      On the TV show, we already know after last Sunday’s episode that Mel can disguise her own appearance; it isn’t too much of stretch to imagine that she can do it to someone else.Furthermore, the producers might want to crush all hope before they bring Jon back.And perhaps they want to screw with the heads of the Jon Snow fans a little bit—just before the big reveal.

      Well considering the Sand Snakes teleported all the way to Kings Landing to murder Trystane, Ill buy it. It would be a very cruel twist by D&D, but sure why not. And out of nowhere Daryl Dixon shows up with his crossbow and shoots Ramsay Bolton dead.

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    98. Jack Bauer 24: Arghh! What are Edd and Thorne looking at?

      Probably two different things. After all, as Davos inferred, Alliser has no intentions of letting Edd and the other Loyalists live: so, they should not be watching the same thing.

      Texan in Westeros: On the TV show, we already know after last Sunday’s episode that Mel can disguise her own appearance; it isn’t too much of stretch to imagine that she can do it to someone else.

      She isn’t disguising her appearance per se: she becomes much younger when the pendant is “on.” That is very different from taking on the appearance of another person: all of us could go back to looking like we did when we were young if you “just” undo aging; that would be very different from taking on another person’s appearance!

      At any rate, lines of conjecture forget one key thing: it’s not about what Jon does or what someone looking like Jon does: it’s about how Jon’s going to evolve. This is not Lord of the Rings, after all!

      Esmail: Well considering the Sand Snakes teleported all the way to Kings Landing to murder Trystane, Ill buy it.

      That’s the world’s slowest teleportation device, then. I suspect horseback would have been a bit quicker.

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    99. orange: There’s no evidence in either source material or show that they are some super secret twins.

      That, and the fact that they share curly hair is about as much evidence that they are siblings as the fact my wife and I share curly hair is evidence that we are siblings. News flash: we are not!

      Seriously, they do not use physical similarity as a criterion for casting sibling when they are known siblings: why on Earth would they use it for “secret” siblings?

      Jack Bauer 24: So do you think we’ll see Mel in episode 2 and will it be young or old Mel? Is Davos going to shit himself when he sees her?

      She will put the choker back on and re-engage the spell: if nothing else, she probably cannot live too long unless she restores her youth. It probably will be where Mel starts to rebound. However, given that she’s not one of the central characters, they really cannot spend too much time on this.

      Sullied by Knight: At this point, if he is rezzed by some other means (not R’hllor), how is that going to help Mel’s current doubts and insecurities. It’s almost like she has to be the one who does it.

      It also would be completely Deus ex Machina to revive Jon any other way. The show (and the books, for that matter) have given us exactly zero other ways to undo death.

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    100. Wimsey,
      They are looking at the same thing from the same angle. See that light spot in their eyes? It looks like a pyre shaped like this —| with a large fire coming off the right side.

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    101. Wimsey,

      None of know if melisandre is using glamour to appear like her younger self OR to appear like a random good looking woman. None of us have seen a young melisandre so other people’s theory that she has strong glamouring power could be correct.

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    102. Rewatching, it’s bullshit Ghost only started to howl and bang about after Jon died and not while the traitors were plotting and leading him to the slaughter like every direwolf except Shaggy & Lady have done until now.

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    103. Wanderer,
      It’s obviously a version of herself. They wouldn’t go to all the trouble to make them look like the same person if the old woman was some random chick.

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    104. Esmail,

      I don’t think they teleported. I would think that after Jaime and party left, they got onto a smaller, faster ship and followed just after. The first ship would have docked in port…the smaller boat that got them ashore would have to go out and meet the bigger ship, unload the body and Jaime and whatever stuff they might have been bringing back, etc. Takes time.

      A better question is how did the message from Jaime get back to Doran. Did he write it while on the ship or after he was back in King’s Landing. Did it go by bird or was there a third boat that sailed back to Dorne to deliver the message. Any method takes time. During that time, the Sand Snakes could have gotten to Tristane’s boat.

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    105. Connor,

      I think it’s the most interesting picture. She seems very unhappy. She’s probably lonely. The other pics are cropped so closely it’s hard to have any idea what is going on.

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    106. Connor,

      There was a fervent belief it was way too dangerous to ever set foot outside the cave ever again after the pic of Bran balancing on a horse in furs in the woods was released, and yet here we have Meera just chillin outside.

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    107. Texan in Westeros,

      You cannot see a funeral pyre clearly in their eyes. Bullshit. Also it makes no sense.

      Now the lighting kind of looks like they are looking at a fire. But maybe that is a Mellisandre induced fire. I don’t even think that is probable. They are both not reacting. They look sort of resigned. No weapons in hand. No surprise or fear. So I haven’t a clue but I think this is a bullshit idea.

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    108. Ron Snow,
      Yarwyck & the other officer were already sweating it. When Wun Wun & savage wildlings burst through the gates right at the moment Alliser & friends break through the door, they will be cornered by Ghost on one side & a freakin giant on the other. There were a lot of archers, but Wun Wun could clothesline several of them in one motion. Alliser looks like he’s seen a ghost. Edd looks smug like a new Lord Commander.

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    109. Demon Monkey,

      I can’t believe that I answered. I’ve read it so many times over the past few days…I guess I just had a weak moment. Now maybe we should talk about whether or not Jon is dead. 😉

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    110. Okay, so the Sand Snakes really are a sneaky bunch… and they want war.
      So they sneak into Kings Landing, sneak onto the ship and kill Tristain.
      Now everyone back home will believe that the Lannisters did it.
      Way to go girls!!
      Did anyone else see the picture of the message that Jamie sent to Doran?
      In it he mentions, “now Tristain cannot stay in Kings Landing.”

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    111. Off-topic: Owen Teale (Ser Alliser) had acted in a Torchwood episode. He was good, but I stopped watching Torchwood after that. Those who like horror stories might enjoy it.
      Torchwood spoiler:

      He plays a cannibal villager who cuts up the tourists and keep their parts in refrigerator and eat! I can’t help remembering it every time I see him looking evil in GoT. And I enjoyed reading about Frey Pies…

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    112. Wanderer: None of know if melisandre is using glamour to appear like her younger self OR to appear like a random good looking woman.

      She isn’t doing either. For one thing, it is not just appearance: otherwise, she would be long since dead of old age. When the spell is enacted, she is physically young. An illusion might make her look young: but it could not make her walk or move like a young person. Face lifts and plastic surgery can make a person look much younger: but cosmetic illusions cannot hide the fact that the person no longer moves like a young person, and they cannot postpone death.

      Rygritte: See that light spot in their eyes? It looks like a pyre shaped like this

      It does not look clearly like that at all. However, the big problem is that Alliser and Edd cannot both be looking at things in the same place with both free. Alliser intends to kill Edd and the other Loyalists. So, if Alliser is free, then Edd is dead or (at best) in chains (literally or figuratively). Conversely, if Edd is free, then Alliser is in chains. However, both men are standing free, which means that they should not be together.

      Demon Monkey: You’re telling me Frodo doesn’t “evolve”? His character changes as do the other hobbits. Don’t knock LOTR!

      Frodo’s character never was developed in the first place, so we cannot see how it evolved. However, Tolkien would not have done that: he was very explicit about why there are no protagonists in Lord of the Rings, and very explicit about why he thought that stories should use heroes rather than protagonists. The Inklings were, after all, an open rejection of modern literature. The notion of individuals evolving was abhorrent to him and his cronies because they staunchly believed that all people are born to a type: you are your father’s son or your mother’s daughter. That mean two things. One, once he gave you Frodo’s birth, then you knew everything that you needed to know. Two, Frodo was a good person, and thus would not try to evolve: no good could ever come from people aspiring to be something different than that. (Indeed, the common factor to all “evil” beings in Tolkien is that they tried to become something greater than they started: that would be like rewriting Crows/Dragons so that all of the main characters became “evil” for trying to be heroes for the day.)

      Lest this seem strange now, we need to remember that many people in the 19th century considered Tolstoy’s, Dickens’, etc. work (all of which has had far greater influence on GRRM’s storytelling style than has Tolkien) to be “immoral” and “degenerate” because those tales focused on people being able to evolve as individuals.

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    113. ghost of winterfell: Looking at Bran’s pic, show Bran looks so similar to how book Jon is supposed to look!

      Jon has dark brown hair and dark gray eyes with a long face (which Wright-Hempstead does not have). That’s all the description we have: we don’t know the shape of his chin or nose, we do not know how thick his lips are or how wide his mouth is, how big his teeth are, whether they are crooked, we don’t know how he wears his hair (probably long and messy, but it’s never stated), whether there are any distinguishing features (moles, dimples, etc.), how thick his eyebrows are, how prominent is facial hair might already be, whether he’s particularly pale or darker complexioned, etc.

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    114. Rygritte,

      Wimsey,

      Actually they are at opposite ends of CB. DE is standing on the stairs below the wall winch/elevator. You can see all the wood work and the x struts between the rails that are not where Throne is standing. He is standing at the opposite end of the courtyard. Yes the double doors are behind him but he’s standing on the walk way Stanis watched Jon train from (during the “that was not Ned’s way” chat) facing in the opposite direction with the yard behind him. The doors loom large obviously because the photographer is using a longer lens, hence the lack of focal depth in the background and making it appear as though the double doors are closer.

      I would then suggest these characters are not looking at the same thing and as much as I want there to be a pyre it’s just some light source reflected in their eyes.

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    115. Jack Bauer 24:
      No Euron?

      There was so much chatter about him in the off season now radio silence. Is he even on the show anymore? But seriously, why are they hiding him? it can’t be because Asbaek isn’t a known actor. Neither was Pedro Pascal and they hyped Oberyn.

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    116. What if Jon will be back by the Old Gods?!
      I think someone will give a sacrifice for the Old Gods and they’ll take it instead of Jon
      I don’t know but I think he’ll be back in an unexpected way
      Everyone think that Mel will bring him back, others think he’ll rose out of fire
      While the solution is under our noses the whole time

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    117. Wimsey: Probably two different things.After all, as Davos inferred, Alliser has no intentions of letting Edd and the other Loyalists live: so, they should not be watching the same thing.

      She isn’t disguising her appearance per se: she becomes much younger when the pendant is “on.”That is very different from taking on the appearance of another person: all of us could go back to looking like we did when we were young if you “just” undo aging; that would be very different from taking on another person’s appearance!

      At any rate, lines of conjecture forget one key thing: it’s not about what Jon does or what someone looking like Jon does: it’s about how Jon’s going to evolve.This is not Lord of the Rings, after all!

      That’s the world’s slowest teleportation device, then.I suspect horseback would have been a bit quicker.

      Slow? How do you know? If they teleported just a few seconds before they opened the door into his chamber to kill him, then its quite fast… Who made you the expert on Sand Snake teleportation? 😉 When do you think they would have teleported? Hearsay on your part!

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    118. Esmail: e a very cruel twist by D&D, but sure why not. And out of nowhere Daryl Dixon shows up with his crossbow and

      Are you mentally retarded? Why do you say that Sand snakes teleported to king landing? Stop watching the show, you really have a low level IQ and are unable to understand anything.

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    119. Rygritte:
      Rewatching, it’s bullshit Ghost only started to howl and bang about after Jon died and not while the traitors were plotting and leading him to the slaughter like every direwolf except Shaggy & Lady have done until now.

      how would he know about that? The wolf can see the future? LOL, stop making stuff up… in the show, which is normal and logical, no wolf can see the future or read people minds. What the fuck is this shit?

      The only bullshit thing here is you.

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    120. Esmail: Well considering the Sand Snakes teleported all the way to Kings Landing to murder Trystane, Ill buy it.

      By teleported you mean took a ship which was about as fast as Trystane’s?

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    121. Shouldn’t read too much into promo pics, since they’re not actual screencaps. I remember, last year, thinking this pic of Sansa from Mother’s Mercy was her being both amazed and relieved to see Stannis Baratheon’s army marching into Winterfell to rescue her after their swift, Lord of Light assisted victory against the Boltons.

      http://41.media.tumblr.com/41418a788ed65d1f416fcb06620de77d/tumblr_nptyckQa5I1upp6zro1_1280.jpg

      You can’t imagine how stupid I felt after the episode went out. I’m not a Stannis fanboy, but I was shocked beyond belief…for about five minutes. Anyway, I don’t think the wildlings are gonna kill Thorne or Olly for that matter. I think they’ll just be forced to surrender due to overwhelming numbers.

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    122. Wanderer:

      None of know if melisandre is using glamour to appear like her younger self OR to appear like a random good looking woman.

      The fact they used Carice to play both young and old Melisandre would indicate that they are the same person just with different age.

      I like the idea that it’s really a youth restoring spell and not one that changes the appearance to some specific different person. Her totally different movement and posture would indicate that she really aged, although of course we don’t know if the spell can disguise such things too.
      Also could it be that she disengaged the spell to lay down and die?

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    123. I wonder if Brienne will meet Melisandre, and how would she react. She’s as guilty of Renly’s murder as Stannis, after all.

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    124. Nadia,

      I don’t think it would happen with fire, and I don’t want it to.
      but I was responding to someone who said burning his body for a resurrection wouldn’t make sense… and I was explaining that it can happen, though I don’t think it will and wouldn’t want it to. That’s just my girl DANY!

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    125. RG,

      Zombie Jon can only happen with a WW in the vicinity, and with the magic protecting the walls, they can get to him right now.

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    126. This supposed letter that Jamie wrote, are they going to show us in the show that the letter was written by Jamie and sent by raven or something?

      It would be nice to show us that Jamie sent the letter. Things would make even MORE sense…

      90% of the people who watched it didn’t see this letter we have shared here.

      though my sister, from initial viewing, assumed that Trystane sent a raven to his father from the ship.

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    127. Deesensfan,

      I agree, they should let us know he was the one to send it.

      A simple talk with Cersei or Kevan about Dorne would do… After all I do hope they mention dead Trystane, or give us a good reason why Jaime wouldn’t find out.

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    128. Deesensfan,

      I do think resurrection by fire is possible. After so much build up and hype after his death, the show might give us a more spectacular way of resurrection, something to make that scene memorable. If Jon comes back exactly the way that Beric did, Mel praying by his side, would it have the same effect?
      I could be wrong though, and the scene in S3 where Mel travels all that way to meet Thoros and Beric could foreshadow that she will do the same thing with Jon. However, I would like the resurrection to be somewhat different than Beric’s.

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    129. Mihnea: A simple talk with Cersei or Kevan about Dorne would do… After all I do hope they mention dead Trystane, or give us a good reason why Jaime wouldn’t find out.

      It’d be a bit weird if they don’t even mention in the future that Trystane was murdered in the docks (or dissapeared, if the Sand Snakes got ride of the body). Considering that it seems Dorne is going to war with the Crown, and Cersei will want to go war too, the subject of Trystane will probably come up.

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    130. ghost of winterfell,

      I agree. I actually don’t know how it would happen, if it were to happen.
      I don’t think we need a big marvelous scene to be content with his resurrection, however I do believe it should be bigger than Beric’s. Beric’s in season 3 was offscreen anyway, but it was as simple as praying and him coming back.
      A fire thing would be cool, but it would undermine Dany the unburnt. But is that really a problem, if they are 2 of the 3 mains in the end?

      Another unique way would be awesome, I just cant think of any other way.

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    131. Luka Nieto,

      A possible answer would be this.

      The guards on the ship where with Ellaria and the SS.
      So the ship leaves, Jaime thinks with Trystane still alive.

      That doesn’t mean we can’t find out that he wrote the letter. I believe they will mention it in either a scene with him and Kevan, Cersei or Tommen.

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    132. The Blood of Winterfull: What if Jon will be back by the Old Gods?!

      That would be Deus ex Machina in the bad story-telling sense: never has the show (or the books) given us any indication that the Old Gods have that sort of ability. Chekhov’s Rule works both ways: it’s not just making a big deal about something only if it is going to be important in the story or plot later, but it’s also about not making something important to the plot late without introducing it early.

      ghost of winterfell: If Jon comes back exactly the way that Beric did, Mel praying by his side, would it have the same effect?

      The goal should not be to create an “effect”: the goal should be effective storytelling and plotting. Again, this is the only way introduced to revive the dead so far on the show (or in the books). Beric’s revival introduced this to us. This is very much what Chekhov was writing about when he admonished novelists and playwrites to not hang guns early unless they were going to be fired late: the revival gun has been hung, and now it needs to be fired. Otherwise, there was not much point to the Beric material. (It did develop that R’hllor bestows pretty impressive power on its followers: but that was a lot of work for one power!)

      Luka Nieto: It’d be a bit weird if they don’t even mention in the future that Trystane was murdered in the docks (or dissapeared, if the Sand Snakes got ride of the body).

      It should only be discussed if it is relevant to the plot or the story hereafter. Along these same lines, there is absolutely no reason to tell us who sent the raven to Doran: there are any number of possible sources, and unless somehow this is to be important to the plot, there is no reason to waste show time on it. It is quite possible that last weeks’ scene largely cauterized Dorne: it served it’s purpose last year for telling Jaime’s part of the story, but it could well be nothing more than a minor plot element from here on out.

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    133. Luka Nieto,

      Disregard, I misunderstood what you were saying. I thought you were saying that Trystane’s murder will be another cause for war.

      I understand now that you were saying that, because of the war that will come between Martell and Lannister, that surely Trystane will be mentioned and we will get some answer.

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    134. Esmail: When do you think they would have teleported? Hearsay on your part!

      heh, touché! My point was that they had plenty of time to get to Kings Landing: some time would have passed. (Indeed, I was wondering if they’d show us how they preserved bodies at sea: but that would have made poor old Myrcella look ghastly if they had basically pickled her!)

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    135. Deesensfan: Also, maybe off screen he got Bronn to write for him. If Bronn can write.

      Or Trystane sent him the note once he got to harbor and could use a raven. Or the ship stopped part way and they sent a courier. Or they sent a courier from Kings Landing. Or one of the Dornish in Kings Landing heard the news and sent the letter. There are any number of ways this could have been done: it really should not be an issue.

      (I do find it funny how on one hand, people assert that news from the far north should be broadly known rapidly, while others think that news from a major hub needs to be explained!)

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    136. Deesensfan,

      There are a lot of parallels between Dany and Jon. Particularly they both seem to be connected to the AA prophecy (Mel calls it “Warrior of Light” in the show). So Jon’s rebirth through fire would be in line with that. However, even if that were to happen, it would be a one time magical event as he is not fire proof like Dany is.

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    137. Wimsey: It should only be discussed if it is relevant to the plot or the story hereafter.

      That’s what I meant. Considering they are seemingly setting up a war between Dorne and the Crown, I imagine a subject that would come up would be the murder or disappearance of Trystane, the heir to Dorne.

      Wimsey: Along these same lines, there is absolutely no reason to tell us who sent the raven to Doran: there are any number of possible sources, and unless somehow this is to be important to the plot, there is no reason to waste show time on it.

      Agreed!

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    138. Wimsey,

      Yeah I know, Jon might very well be brought back just like Beric was. I was just thinking of other possibilities and what I would like to see happen 🙂 .

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    139. ghost of winterfell: So Jon’s rebirth through fire would be in line with that. However, even if that were to happen, it would be a one time magical event as he is not fire proof like Dany is.

      I think that the parallelism here is that Daeny is essentially “dead” in the eyes of the Dothraki and is being sent to Widow’s Purgatory. She can no more get up and join the living anymore than Jon can at this point. Both are going to need some fairly drastic (and hopefully established!) means of rejoining the living.

      I suspect that the parallelism will continue in that once this is done, both of them are going to have an army of barbarians at their back for important near-future battles.

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    140. Wimsey,

      Oh, I don’t need it to be explained. I didn’t even care when I watched it.
      I am discussing this because people have been so fixated on the small and silly details, like this one. Though if Jamie did write it, I think its quite huge as Cersei would not have liked him to send a warning about Trystane.

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    141. WillieBeans: If there is a fire, and R+L=J is true, Jon wouldn’t burn right?

      Many Targaryens have burnt to death. Dany is a special thing, and perhaps the time she survived the fire was a special thing too (though it will probably happen this season again). Mind you, perhaps Jon is exactly the same kind of special thing, at least now.

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    142. That is Harald Karstark, god damn it Robb, why did you kill their Lord?

      Also 3-Eyed Raven looks happy too, like Bran. 3-Eyed ravens eyes are red, like in the books right?

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    143. Jack Bauer 24,

      I think Euron was supposed to be more of a surprise (until it leaked). It’s possible these promo photos were staged before HBO acknowledged he would appear.

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    144. I am so excited for Bran’s first vision this season! Seems to be a happy one with Bran and 3-Eyed Raven smiling. 😀

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    145. Connor,

      He is back “home” at Winterfell, probably seeing his father as a kid duelling with uncle Benjen. I will be smiling if that happens too.

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    146. Wimsey,

      Do you mean that viewers not “in the know” could suppose one of those options? Because if that’s what you meant, fine. But Jaime wrote the letter regardless. I agree it’s not necessary to spend time on it in-show, but HBO releasing it was clearly to show that extra information – it was Jaime. It wasn’t Trystane or some other Lord.

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    147. Anyone else think the Karstarks are going to hand Rickon over to the Boltons?

      That is the gift referred to in the episode breakdown.

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    148. I hope the new Three Eyed Raven keeps the same hairdo as in season 4, and the short hair is only for the flashbacks. It just looks like Sydow…

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    149. The Blood of Winterfull:
      What if Jon will be back by the Old Gods?!
      I think someone will give a sacrifice for the Old Gods and they’ll take it instead of Jon
      I don’t know but I think he’ll be back in an unexpected way
      Everyone think that Mel will bring him back, others think he’ll rose out of fire
      While the solution is under our noses the whole time

      I think it will be left totally ambiguous as to whether Jon is revived by the Old Gods (Bran/BR) or Rh’llor (Mel). I have a theory Mel will try after her crisis of faith, at the same time Bran/BR do, as a result perhaps of their respective visions (ToJ and the flames). So end of ep 3, maybe ep 4.

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    150. Connor,

      You can see a glimpse of him in the preview for episode 2. Granted, one does not see very much,

      but at least to me he doesn’t look any different than in the pics above…

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    151. Redxgod: Anyone else think the Karstarks are going to hand Rickon over to the Boltons?

      It will be the Umbers, not the Karstarks. But otherwise, yes.

      Connor,

      We glimpse him in one of the trailers and this episode’s promo, in the cave, and it looks like he has his normal short hair.

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    152. Wimsey: That would be Deus ex Machina in the bad story-telling sense:

      to not hang guns early unless they were going to be fired late: the revival gun has been hung, and now it needs to be fired.

      Wimsey I apologise in advance for sounding rude and I really do enjoy your posts but I had to laugh reading this as you had the opportunity to use your two favourite phrases ‘Deus Ex Machina’ and ‘hanging the gun’ in the one response.
      That must be a personal best of some sort? Apologies if this sounds offensive it just made me chuckle!

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    153. Tycho Nestoris,

      Smalljon Umber has been cast and he will fight for the Boltons. Just look at the battle scenes in the trailers and promos. You will see two other banners alongside the Bolton one: the Karstarks and, even more prominently, the Umber chains. The information was leaked beforehand, though, from other sources.

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    154. Connor,

      Exactly! I imagine a certain portion of the fandom won’t appreciate that… because he doesn’t look like a mummy with tree roots coming out of his empty eye sockets. The same with Euron, who in the show doesn’t look like… well, a stereotypical pirate.

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    155. Wow, the updated photos are great, esp the one of Arya. She is in her zone, I think . I finally got around to reviewing Season 1. In the first episode, Arya finds a helmet and hides in a wagon when Robert and co come to visit Winterfell. I don’t remember seeing that the first time. Little scoundrel! Love it

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    156. Confused a bit by this thread…

      Why does anyone want a big fire and a pyre? I don’t get it. We who want a Jon resurrection should hope it is private – only to be seen by a few special people hopefully in that room, plus/minus Tormund maybe? I mean, the less people that think he’s was dead, the less think he’s the devil or a wight or worse.

      Whoo hoo! Look, Jon is alive! All TV people rejoice! Look ye on, Night’s Watch and Wildlings and Sansa/Theon and Brienne/Pod the Vale, the North and everyone else and their sister that people hope/want to witness this miracle!

      And nobody instantly notices he doesn’t have blue eyes. Tormond cries out in horror, Wun Wun beats Jon back to death with a castle Black Gate barricade, Alister laughs, Sansa and Birenne cringe and share a look of pain. Edd says “Well that went as good as could be expected” and then Ghost takes out his throat… and then everyone just collectively battles to the death.

      As far as I’m concerned, the birth of the Dragons was magical and protected Dany. Fire for anyone else and also Dany without that special magic moment fire means death. No fire, please no fire…

      Wimsey,

      LOTR has no character formation hence the reason I respect yet hate it. How can anyone think it has fleshed out characters? 🙂

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    157. Redxgod:
      Luka Nieto,

      Remind me? Did Rob kill the Karstark or Umber banner men for trying to kill Jaime?

      Robb executed Lord Karstark, not for trying to kill Jaime, but for actually killing two Lannister hostages, who were just children.

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    158. Luka Nieto,

      That’s disappointing that a character who was betrayed by the Boltons in source material works with them here. I hope we get more of an explanation as *why* Smalljon would switch sides

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    159. Nice to get confirmation that the man in the room with Roose and Ramsay is indeed Harald Karstark. No recruiting necessary for this one – it looks like he’s Team Bolton from the start.

      Count me among those who appreciate that they gave him a chainmail piece in the same style as his father’s. It’s an instant visual association for the family. Despite all the well-deserved accolades they’ve received, the costuming department still doesn’t get enough love.

      If I recall correctly, the casting call specified that the original plan was for this new Lord Karstark to appear in three episodes, while Smalljon Umber would appear in two. It looks like this episode will be Karstark’s solo appearance. Both he and the Smalljon will also be in the Battle of the Bastards. That just leaves one more episode for both of them, unless plans have changed.

      The other Northern Lords like “Boyce” (Cerwyn) and “Fletcher” (Manderly) seem likely to be one-offs, given that they only had one day of filming. Then again, there could be other Lords cast that we haven’t heard of. We heard nothing about Lyanna Mormont being cast until we saw Bear Island in the trailer and Liam Cunningham confirmed that she was the one Davos was speaking to.

      Redxgod,

      If Rickon’s with any Northern family, it will be the Umbers, not the Karstarks.

      The bit in the synopsis about Ramsay receiving a “gift” seems ominous, but I’d personally be surprised if Rickon was turned over to the Boltons in Episode 3. I thought that would be a late-season, eve-of-the-battle betrayal. I could be wrong, of course.

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    160. Please, just please, start with Bran’s flashback. It could be the perfect opening scene.

      *cue GoT theme* Dun dun dudu dun dun dududun *cut to black* written by D&D, directed by whoever

      *silence*

      *cue sounds of a lively city, blacksmith hammering, etc etc*

      *open on wide shot of Winterfell in spring, cue that pointy end theme that everyone loves*

      *montage through daily Winterfell life*

      etc etc.

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    161. Tycho Nestoris:
      Luka Nieto,

      The original casting call gives us clues why, and others leaks confirmed it:

      The Umbers may be loyal to the Starks, but when they hear that Sansa’s sister is coming south with his bastard brother, who let the wildlings through the Wall and is leading them as an army to Winterfell… well, the Umbers won’t be very happy. All Northerners hate the wildlings, but who would hate them more than the Umbers, who are the Northernmost house, with Last Hearth being almost in the Gift? The casting call claimed Smalljon’s hate ran deep, and the wildlings’ past actions are more than a good enough reason for that to be the case. It’s not that the Umbers are switching sides, from Smalljon’s perspective; he may well hate the Boltons! But they are all still Northerners, and from his perspective Jon’s and Sansa’s actions will constitute an invasion of wildlings and traitors. You know how the Greek city states were eternally at war, except when they had to fight the Persians? Same thing.

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    162. Looks a lot like Von Sydow has red eyes. I noticed it in other stills too. Would suggest that they kept the albino-bit, which is awsome

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    163. Connor,

      Sure, though I feel if he had long white hair, they might pop out (like the white short hair does). I’m not expecting him to look different tbh, although it’s not impossible that they might have changed a few things since season 4.

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    164. Luka Nieto,

      Sansa not her sister, correct? Yeah, I guess that’s enough. I would still think their Stark loyalty trumps Jon letting the wildlings through but I will suspend my disbelief. I am more disappointed that another “good guy” like Smalljon is turned into a villain…

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    165. Deesensfan,

      The Lannisters have the faith militant to worry about this year. The sand snakes are assassins…using poison, espionage…not large scale military attacks.

      I don’t see much else happening on the war front with Dorne any time soon. If Tommen dies I think it will be by someone different. Joffrey by the Tyrells, Myrcella by the Martells…Tommen should be some other family or the Faith militant.

      But I don’t want Tommen to die…he likely has to for someone else to be king but it would be cool if he didn’t die…somehow.

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    166. Luka Nieto,

      Euron has no eye-patch!!!!!!!! Sorry….

      I agree though. This is Max von Sydow. I don’t want them to bother him with prosthetics
      Let the bloody master do his job.

      He could have pink hair for all I care..

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    167. Tycho Nestoris,

      I don’t think it needs any suspension of disbelief, honestly. This doesn’t turn Smalljon into a villain, necessarily. An antagonist to our protagonists, sure. A villain? For what? As he sees it, he’s defending the North against the wildlings. Who knows, he may get guarantees from the wildlings that the Starks will be trated fairly. Or maybe he’s a villain after all… so what? Even considering him a minor character in the books is an overstatement.

      Mihnea,

      I mean, they could’ve given him a long wig with no much trouble. I just don’t care that much. The fact that we have Max von freaking Sydow in the show is already a big deal. I don’t care how he looks. He just needs to look Targaryen-ish, old and mysterious and wizardly, which he does.

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    168. Perhaps the Great Jon is betrayed by the Small Jon…and he gives up Rickon and helps the Boltons.

      There must be some family that double-crosses the Boltons pre-battle though, right?

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    169. Luka Nieto,

      Is Smalljon actually seen in the battle? Maybe his role could be a reverse Arnolf Karstark’s.
      He seems to work with the Boltons when in truth he’s serving the Starks (grudgingly accepting the deal with the wildlings) and is waiting for the right time to strike. Unfortunately, Ramsay discovers it and flays him (he’s one of the flayed men being burned), and forces his soldiers to fight for him anyway.

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    170. Lord Too-fat-to-sit-a-horse

      I cant remember where we stand on whether Manderly was cast…I know the one casting call sounded like it could be for him…

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    171. Tywin of the Hill,

      Leaks confirmed Smalljon’s in the battle, and fighting for the Boltons.

      rhymeswithweak,

      We won’t see the Greatjon, most likely, but I’m sure he’ll be mentioned and that Smalljon will explain his decision. There is a rough description of a scene in which he does so.

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    172. rhymeswithweak,

      It kinda has to be Manderly.

      What I mean is, even if they change his identity to some other name and house (why?), it’s still essentially the same character with the same character beat, the revelation that he wasn’t the Crown’s cowardly lackey after all —which is what the casting call implied was the full extent of his character: he’s described as a fat, rugged Northern nobleman in his 60’s who has a stirring speech in which he unexpectedly shifts political allegiances. So Manderly or a Manderly equivalent will appear, I’m gonna guess in some sort of Northern gathering, perhaps in Bear Island. He’ll only appear in one episode, so I guess we can expect the “The North Remembers” bit, but not the other stuff (Frey Pies, etc).

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    173. I also don’ t think Jons corpse will end in fire. Perhaps Melisandre breaks her magical necklace , releases the power held inside to resurrect Jon, thus giving up all her magical power. She then still could live a few more weeks/months, Long enough to see herself on the walls of Winterfell..
      Or in a kind of heaven the “Stranger” opens his book, sees Jons Name is not written in it and just sends him back..like in a romantic hollywood-movie…

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    174. Luka Nieto,

      I completely agree about the minor character point. That’s why I would have preferred one of the more treacherous Umbers (like Whoresbane) to do the deed (if in fact Rickon is the gift) and leave Smalljon out of it

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    175. dragonbringer:
      El-Bobbie,
      unlike most I think the fire is started by dany herself and not drogon [ /spoiler]

      That’s exactly what I am thinking – the fire might be a consequence of that “forced undressing” / “touching-the-hot-brazier-with-your-bare-hands-to-show-the-Dosh-Kaleen-she-truly-IS-the-Unburned” scene, no Drogon involved 😉 .

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    176. Mihnea,

      There was the casting call, however, interestingly there was

      no merman banner seen in any of the battle shots, which makes me wonder if he will not be Manderly explicitely, but the Lord that belongs to that one banner that is show only (I think yellow disks and blue stripes or something.)

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    177. Mihnea,

      I’ll just cover everything.

      What part was the spoiler? The fact that we haven’t seen Small Jon on screen yet even though he was cast? I’m just guessing at stuff cause I have no idea…no spoilers there.

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    178. gag22: Are you mentally retarded? Why do you say that Sand snakes teleported to king landing? Stop watching the show, you really have a low level IQ and are unable to understand anything.

      Your sarcasm meter needs adjusting my friend.

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    179. Mihnea:
      Luka Nieto,

      I bet my ass that Lyanna Mormont will get Mandarly’s speech.

      Except Lyanna Mormont is a little girl —not a fat, rugged old man, which is what the casting call asked for. A fat, old Northern nobleman will have a stirring speech in which he switches allegiances, we know that much, and it can’t be Karstark or Umber, as they had their own casting calls, and they’re younger and fitter. So it’s Wyman, or an equivalent, as there were no Manderly banners that we saw, so maybe it’s a Hornwood or the Lord from that house they invented (there is an unknown sigil with the Stark allies).

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    180. Mihnea: Not Mandarly sorry. His daughters.( or grand daughter, the blue haired girl)

      Uuuh, that would be great, wouldn’t it? They would need to change the speech a bit to fit the Mormonts, but Wylla Manderly’s speech is quite good:

      A thousand years before the Conquest, a promise was made, and oaths were sworn in the Wolf’s Den before the old gods and the new. When we were sore beset and friendless, hounded from our homes and in peril of our lives, the wolves took us in and nourished us and protected us against our enemies. In return we swore that we should always be their men. Stark men!

      She has dyed green hair, by the way, not blue 🙂

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    181. Deesensfan:
      So, my spoiler filled friends? Is episode 2 going to be big?

      HYPEEEEEEEEE

      Seems that way! I am sooooo excited for Bran and Max von Sydow as Bloodraven!! And the fight at Castle Black!! DEATH TO OLLY! 😀

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    182. Sullied by Knight,

      “Fletcher” is surely a fake name, yes. That’s not why I doubt the Manderly-like character will be named Manderly. The reason is the lack of Manderly banners in all the footage.

      Mihnea,

      That would be pretty amazing 🙂

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    183. Deesensfan,

      Honestly, most stoked for episode 3

      That title is either a highly anticipated reveal or an epic troll. I remember a certain sword being renamed oathbreaker…

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    184. Yes, whats up with Manderly cast? Was ther not a talk that theres gonna be a scene with some (fat) northern lord doing some speech? I really hope he is not going to stand with the Boltons, especially after that brillaint speech of his before Davos. It would be better simply to cut him of than having him fight with Boltons. And if they kill Rickon too, im gonna go mad.

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    185. Tycho Nestoris,

      I think that’s the case, but I wouldn’t expect who you are expecting. I think Sansa will do the honors, in this case.

      luca,

      Yeap, I noticed the slash. So he survives the fight in Castle Black, right? At least for a while.

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    186. Deesensfan,

      I really don’t know. I haven’t been a fan of the sand snakes in general.

      The book had more going on in Dorne so I really don’t know which way that was going either. There are more characters and sub-plots. However…

      I think the sand snakes would support Dany in both the books and show and that’s about the only thing I can expect from them.

      Let’s wait until Dany invades westeros.

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    187. Had posted in another thread but think more appropriate here so repeating. Not sure if this is from HBO but posted on Xfinity.
      A little different description for Ep2, “Home” on my TV –

      “Bran trains under the guidance of the Three-Eyed Raven, Tommen gets advice from Jaime, Tyrion must get creative to find good news, Thorne has the support of the Night’s Watch, Balon Greyjoy hears several proposals, Ramsay comes up with a new plan.”

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    188. Oh my god when will this Jon resurrected by fire end?!??

      First of all EVEN DANY WASNT RESURRECTED BY FIRE. What on earth?!? She left the fire unburnt and birthed her dragons but SHE wasn’t dead. There is NOTHING on the show that shows that someone can be brought back from the dead by burning. If you’re so desperate for the parallel, Drogo was the dead one.

      The only only only example of resurrection on the show was done for Beric. And if it wasn’t to show that resurrection was possible, what on earth was the point of that whole storyline?

      Why is everyone acting like there have to be 10000% direct parallels with Dany? DANY is pure fire. The whole point of R+L is that Jon is ICE and fire. I don’t think he’s going to be reborn in a big old funeral pyre.

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    189. Mihnea,

      IT makes sense because somebody will have to find his body and deliver the news to Jamie. So most probably there will be a reference. It will arise the question of who killed him and that will make Jaimie suspicious about the presence of SS in KL. So this cannot be omitted because it is essential with the presence of SS in KL and the danger they poise for Lannisters…
      Assuming that the SS would like to make their presence in KL known to the Lannisters.

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    190. Connor:
      ghost of winterfell,
      Do you think we will see

      Lyanna in this vision as well? And to learn more about Hodor when he was younger?

      Yes, both of it – the latest episode 2 leak from the Freaky Surgeon confirmed it in great detail 😉 .

      rhymeswithweak:
      Perhaps the Great Jon is betrayed by the Small Jon…and he gives up Rickon and helps the Boltons.

      Don’t know if I remember this right – but didn’t the Greatjon in the books get captured by the Freys after the Red Wedding, and half of the Umbers supported Stannis, the other half the Boltons? This could very well also in the show be the reason how the Umbers are forced into cooperation… on the other hand, the Smalljon is dead in the books, so in the end we have truly no idea how they will do thisin the show…

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    191. Luka Nieto,

      I think Sansa will do the honors, in this case

      I can live with that.

      I was more hoping to see Nymeria and her pack than anything. I did like the Bw/oB being lead by LSH but I don’t mind if Sansa works the North while they handle the Riverlands.

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    192. Wimsey,

      Had you read the letter you would have known that Trystane could not write it. It has to be Jaime who send it and possibly he dictated it to somebody else who could write with a fine style.

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    193. Green Chili: Yes, both of it – the latest episode 2 leak from the Freaky Surgeon confirmed it in great detail .

      Freaky Surgeon? Do you have a link to that? I looked it up and got nothing.

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    194. Tycho Nestoris,

      If the wolfdreams and Nymeria are going to be introduced at all (and there are clues that this may be the case), it’s going to be in this coming episode or the next, while Arya’s blind. So you may get your wish soon 😉

      Connor,

      I think it was just a fake leak based on the information we got from the casting calls, which basically confirmed a Winterfell flashback.

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    195. Luka Nieto:
      Tycho Nestoris,

      Connor,

      I think it was just a fake leak based on the information we got from the casting calls, which basically confirmed a Winterfell flashback.

      Ohh, okay. Thanks!

      And I really hope that Arya will have wolfdreams in the next episode or later episodes. Where are the clues that hint at her wolfdreams in the show?

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    196. Green Chili,

      Yeah, what you mentioned happening in the books seems to ring a bell. Perhaps the Umbers could switch alliances from the Boltons…don’t think the Karstarks ever will now.

      They didn’t introduce the Manderlys yet, right…doubt they will…some other family they mentioned could take that important speech. Did they mention Hornwood in the show?

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    197. Connor,

      Well, firstly, it’s a matter of placement. This is exactly the moment the dreams become relevant. So this is when they should be introduced, in the show, during Arya’s blind period. Also, Bran could help out Arya, Jon and Rickon with their warging, if they want to introduce it to all the Stark children whose direwolves still live. So basically the first clue is that… well, if they were going to do the wolfdreams at any moment and reintroduce Nymeria, this coming few episodes are exactly when they’d do it —Not before, nor after.

      Also, there were multiple reports of lots of wolves being filmed for Game of Thrones in some forest near the Riverrun set (an area which also houses other sets, such as the ship they use for every ship in the show, Harrenhal, Volantis, and other stuff).

      There’s also WotW’s exclusive report that Arya would arrive back at the Riverlands by the end of this season. Again, what better moment to reunite with Nymeria.

      I won’t call any of this “evidence”. That’s why I said clues. They’re not more than that. But personally, I believe we’ll see it happen.

      rhymeswithweak,

      Not sure if they have in the past, but the Hornwood sigil is with the Stark allies in all the battle footage, so they’ll certainly be introduced.

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    198. Luka Nieto,

      If they’re going to all of this trouble to hide the name of the Manderly-like character who gives the speech, don’t we think it is plausible they would hide the banner in previews for the show as well?!?

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    199. RJ: If they’re going to all of this trouble to hide the name of the Manderly-like character who gives the speech, don’t we think it is plausible they would hide the banner in previews for the show as well?!?

      They didn’t hide the Umbers fighting for the Boltons. If anything, their sigil appears more prominently in the footage than the Bolton’s own sigil! And we also have a behind the scenes picture some extra took during filming, and there are no Manderly banners there: only Stark, Hornwood, Mormont, and a blue and white banner with yellow dots they seemingly invented for the show.

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    200. Maybe I missed the comment but anyone catch the blood on the railing? looks fresh… this is in regards to Thornes picture.

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    201. Rygar:
      I want to marry Yara and or Gilly.

      Let me be more clear: I do not want to preside over Yara and Gilly’s nuptials. I want to engage in intercourse with them. And if saying “I do” gets me in their trousers, well. So be it.

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    202. I wonder if Karstark is bringing the “gift” but it’s more news than anything? That Jon is dead? Would make him think that Sansa has nowhere to go?

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    203. Love Arya’s pic. She’s in action, she has that look of rage on her face that we know means someone is going to pay for enraging her. Finally! At least we know she isn’t going to sit by for too much longer and let the Waif molest her some more. I’m so tired of seeing Arya being struck and slapped.

      The rest of the pics, no action. They look like studio stills. Why is Tommen sitting so sedately? I’d expect him to be raging around the room – this is an Episode 2 shot, right? Margaery isn’t out of the dungeon yet. Oh well, boy king doesn’t want to make the mistakes his big brother did, so he becomes the polar opposite. Not a good move.
      Yara has aged. Thorne doesn’t look as certain about his decisions as he did in Ep 1. I hope Davos straightens him out quickly – better yet, Wun Wun.

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    204. Perhaps Obara and Nym were sent to dispatch Trystane on their way to Essos? I would not be surprised if they end up in Meereen by end of season/beginning of season 7. That would be interesting given what we know about

      Theon and Yara potentially ending up in Meereen by end of season as well. And if Olenna does end up in Dorne with Varys, that would mean Dany would go from having just her Meereen crew and potentially some Dothraki, to having Dorne, The Greyjoys and the Tyrells behind her bid to take the throne.

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    205. Laura,

      Considering how many characters are uniting and reuniting, regardless of the details I’m sure the myriad of disparate storylines we have now will be divided in only three by the end of the season: North, South and (briefly) East. Dorne will be directly involved with the King’s Landing plot at last, and Dany will be incoming, so by season seven I expect there to be just two storylines: the fight for the throne among the southern houses and Dany, and the fight for the whole realm up North, against the White Walkers. Will there be any relevant character isolated by then? Arya should be back. Sam probably too, once he learns what he needs.

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    206. As I’m looking at the updated photos I starting to hope that if Tommen dies this season it’s not in a violent bloody way. I feel a bit bad for the poor kid. He’s a good natured person (rare on Thrones) and it would be more emotional for the viewers I think if he went out like Myrcella.

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    207. Aryamad,

      As part of Cersei’s prophecy, he will die. Poor Tommen, he is kind hearted, like Myrcella, and certainly didn’t (wont) deserve their fate…. unlike Joffrey lol.
      I agree, I hope it is not violent.

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    208. Luka Nieto,

      hey, here in Croatia we have a website contest, got predictions, pubished by HBO for every episode. For 2nd episode we have 3 questions. https://scontent-vie1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t35.0-12/13054552_10209896363470714_1032765358_o.png?oh=53319c6a21ea30de307635ccb368a62c&oe=5723ADC5

      1.Will Arya get her sight back? Y N
      2.Will Mellisandre help Davoy run from Castle black? Y N
      3.Will Tommen forgive and make peace with his Mother? Y N
      All questions are related only for episode 2. So what do you think??

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    209. Aryamad:
      As I’m looking at the updated photos I starting to hope that if Tommen dies this season it’s not in a violent bloody way. I feel a bit bad for the poor kid. He’s a good natured person (rare on Thrones) and it would be more emotional for the viewers I think if he went out like Myrcella.

      That would mean Cersei’s three children die of poison, which would be interesting, if a tad repetitive. Personally, I think Tommen (and Loras) will die protecting Margaery, when Cersei becomes so desperate she sends FrankenGregor to kill the queen.

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    210. Looking at the picture and the promo, I think Small Council will advice Tommen againts his own mother. This gonna be interesting

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    211. Laura,

      So, when Dany and her considerable army(s) cross the sea, will she be doing it to fight the Lannisters for the Iron Throne or will she be doing it to fight the dead and save the realm?

      HYPE. It is known.

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    212. Also:

      “Queen you shall be… until there comes another, younger and more beautiful, to cast you down and take all that you hold dear”

      If this statement from the prophecy is referring to Dany, what is Cersei going to have remaining that’s “dear” to her? assuming all three of her children are gone at the time.

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    213. Luka Nieto,

      In terms of Season 7 setup, my guess is that there will be four main character concentrations as of Season 6’s end: Winterfell/the North, the Riverlands, King’s Landing, and Meereen (which Dany and co. will shortly depart). Sam is the only character that stands out as potentially separate from everybody else at that point, but then, we have no real clue (though a lot of speculation) as to what the purpose of him being in Oldtown is. In a lot of the theories around the Citadel he could become wrapped up in Dany’s plot in short order.

      Deesensfan:
      Also:
      “Queen you shall be… until there comes another, younger and more beautiful, to cast you down and take all that you hold dear”

      If this statement from the prophecy is referring to Dany, what is Cersei going to have remaining that’s “dear” to her? assuming all three of her children are gone at the time

      Cersei’s main obsession (in the books, anyway) is not her children, but power and status. Her thirst for power is her #1 priority, and always has been. So the YMBQ (assuming the Q is a requirement, which people have queried) will take her power, one imagines.

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    214. Babeko,

      That’s a good guess! Looking forward to scenes with the new small council 🙂

      Hrvoje,

      My guesses would be 1) Perhaps, though I believe episode 3 is more likely; 2) No; and 3) No. I like Babeko’s prediction that Kevan will convince Tommen he can’t trust Cersei.

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    215. JohnnyLaw,

      Her intentions will be to dethrone the Lannisters, I believe, but she’ll find the city in ruins already at Cersei’s hands, with winter having arrived soon before; and then she’ll be made aware of the threat up North.

      Sean C.,

      I think Sam may abandon Oldtown to return North by the end of this season. As for the Riverlands, I considered it part of the southern plot, as it regards the war of the five kings more than the conflict beyond the wall.

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    216. Cock Merchant: The fact they used Carice to play both young and old Melisandre would indicate that they are the same person just with different age.

      I like the idea that it’s really a youth restoring spell and not one that changes the appearance to some specific different person. Her totally different movement and posture would indicate that she really aged, although of course we don’t know if the spell can disguise such things too.
      Also could it be that she disengaged the spell to lay down and die?

      Yes, I absolutely agree the old woman we see is the old version of Melisandre, not someone else. Otherwise, as you said, why would they use the age make up on Carice? The fact you see it’s obviously the Melisandre’s eyes even as the old lady clearly points to it being an older version of the same person. As far as having different movement and posture, I think it would be a pretty shitty glamour if all it did was make her look young, but she still moved and sounded like an old woman. A complete glamour would include moving differently and sounding different.

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    217. Deesensfan,
      We would have heard Ghost like we did in the first episode. It was a big question mark at the end of last season because it didn’t any make sense & still doesn’t. It’s annoying to invest in speculation when they are apparently just making it up as they go along.

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    218. gag22,
      You sound like a member of the Illiterati. It was established in the show multiple times that direwolves can sense friends & foes. I don’t understand why Ghost was caged in the first place. He should’ve been in Jon’s chamber as usual.

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    219. Yaga,

      If Bran is fleeing the cave at the end of this season, as appears to be the case, he’s probably headed south to join the other Northern characters, so I was including him under that heading.

      Luka Nieto,

      I can sort of see that. But I think early Season 7 in the Riverlands will be a constellation of characters coming together to defeat the Freys, different enough from events in KL to be considered a separate story (though certain character crossovers can be expected; one imagines Jaime will have to go do his duty in Cersei’s story at some point).

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    220. Luka Nieto,
      Oh, by the way. I guess we know who that banner belongs to already! That’s House Mazin, named after that guy who told DnD to redo the pilot. 😊Apparently he was in S5 already – Jon sent him a letter or received one from them or something like this.

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    221. Luka Nieto,

      I think you may be right regarding Dany’s intentions . . . While Lannister hold on King’s Landing may be tenuous at that point, I can’t believe that Cersei will turn it to physical “ruins.”

      I also think Euron is a wild-card. I can easily envision a double-cross…

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    222. Luka Nieto:
      Laura,

      Considering how many characters are uniting and reuniting, regardless of the details I’m sure the myriad of disparate storylines we have now will be divided in only three by the end of the season: North, South and (briefly) East. Dorne will be directly involved with the King’s Landing plot at last, and Dany will be incoming, so by season seven I expect there to be just two storylines: the fight for the throne among the southern houses and Dany, and the fight for the whole realm up North, against the White Walkers. Will there be any relevant character isolated by then? Arya should be back. Sam probably too, once he learns what he needs.

      Ooh, that’s an exciting prospect. I never really thought the show would contract that quickly but you’re right, it is inevitable. I guess Bran will be the only one physically far from everyone else but obviously he will be “tuned in” to everything going on. I see 4 main areas going forward – The North (Winterfell north, not Wall north), The Riverlands, King’s Landing and Meereen. I think Dany’s first foray into Westeros will be Dragonstone and it might be there that she finds out the Iron Throne is worth about as much as Pycelle’s chamber pot.

      But yeah, after this season, I would bet we are done with The Iron Islands, The Vale, and Dorne (mostly) for good. We may check in with Ellaria/Tyene in Dorne occasionally but not too much.

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    223. Rygritte,

      If he was with Jon, he would have tried to fight off the attack and probably would have died in the process, or we would have a different story, and an alive Jon snow.

      And the argument that he was caged is probably that the NW members committing treason locked him up.

      Not so difficult to speculate. We don’t need every single detail spelt out for us.

      Okay a wolf howling at the end of S5EP10 would have been nice but not necessary.

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    224. Sean C.,

      I think the Frey plot will be resolved this season, in the last episode.

      Yaga,

      Oh, that’s interesting. House Mazin is an homage to a friend of D&D, so it’s curious they’re appearing as anything more than that little wink in season five. How do we know that new banner is from House Mazin? Was it part of the spoilers from that extra in the battle who leaked lots of stuff?

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    225. Talking about Dorne, yes, DORNE lol.

      kidding.. I would love to see Quentyn introduced to the show, and what better way than to invade Dorne and kill Ellaria and the snakes because the bitches went mad lol.

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    226. RJ,

      Could someone please list all the Northern house banner that are seen in the trailers? I think it will be Manderly though, because White Harbour was mentioned randomly in one of the last episodes of season 5. One of those two guys who tried to rape Gilly sais: ‘Even in White Harbour, I’d want a kiss.’ Seems very pushed in, as if they really wanted White harbour to be in our minds. I’m very curious how many Northern representatives we wil