It’s interviews galore here as the countdown to Season 6 has officially begun! Emilia Clarke (Daenerys Targaryen) and Peter Dinklage (Tyrion Lannister) revel in finally meeting last season, Iwan Rheon (Ramsay Bolton) on being the “new Joffrey,” and Dean-Charles Chapman (Tommen Baratheon) talks sex scenes with Natalie Dormer (Margaery Tyrell).
Clarke and Dinklage praise their long anticipated meeting last season in a video from Mashable:
Rheon spoke with Digital Spy agreeably stating that his character has taken up the mantle as the most despicable character on the show since the late King Joffrey.
It’s full of anti-heroes. A lot of the characters that you love aren’t your typical heroes. I don’t get shouted at on the street or anything. I guess after the demise of Joffrey, [Ramsay has] sort of stepped into that antagonist role. He’s a different enemy to Joffrey, I think people like him a bit more. Not necessarily like him as in ‘I’d want him round for tea’, but at least he’s got something interesting about him, he’s not just a little shit. He’s got his own struggle. There are some more redeeming features if you can find them!
He even reveals preparation for some of the more horrific scenes (like the one last season with Sansa) stay with him in his nightmares:
I had sleepless nights preparing for that. It’s a horrible place you have to go. It’s our job as actors to portray the world that our characters live in, truthfully. We had to be professional and just get on with the job and trust the director. It wasn’t going to be sexualised or trivialised like it could have been. The build-up was horrific, but Sophie [Sansa] dealt with it brilliantly.
In a new interview with Express, Chapman reveals he didn’t expect those scenes but says they were actually rather easy and even comfortable to film:
It’s not awkward, it might look awkward on screen because of the age difference but it’s pretend, it’s all pretend. We’re actors, Natalie’s a lovely person, she made me feel unbelievably comfortable. Hopefully she was comfortable with me. But the sex scene and stuff, it all ran smoothly. It’s all planned, we talk about it, it’s a normal day.
When asked what the most shocking scene was to film Chapman reminisces:
There’s a lot in season six which I can’t tell you about, I wish I could. But for Tommen, I would say the sex scene.
For more on the controversy regarding the age difference of Tommen and Margaery, getting noticed in public, and what he thinks Tommen should do, head on over to Express!
More cast members play a rousing game of “Who Should Die” in the video below from The Globe and Mail:
The video features Ian Beattie (Meryn Trant), Dean-Charles Chapman, Liam Cunningham (Davos Seaworth), Carice van Houten (Melisandre), Iwan Rheon, and Michael McElhatton (Roose Bolton).
Lastly, we have a look at the enormous chocolate dragon egg from Event Magazine (UK):
The egg was designed by chocolatier Melt. The entire creation is made of chocolate weighing 15kg and stands at 55cm tall. It took more than 25 hours to create.
The egg is HBO’s way to celebrate the fifth season of Game of Thrones arriving on Blu-Ray and DVD! It will also be on display in London’s Selfridges for fans. For more information, head on over to Event Magazine!
Hodor?
Edit: My first Hodor, yeah! As to who should die – I guess Ramsey is on top of my list but rather unlikely this season. Roose is likely, Balon is certain, maybe Walder?
I am also worried for Rickon.
I kinda want Jorah the Andal tonbite the dust his creepiness is about worn out its welcome…of there ever was one
It’s not letting me edit my horrible typos…sorry yall
If I get near that chocolate egg, I will lick it! Not even Ser Robert Strong will be enough to protect it. Onward! Valar Dohaeris!
Don’t you mean “Valar Chocaholis”? All men must eat chocolate?
At any rate, if that’s dark chocolate, then you’ve got no chance! If it is milk chocolate, then it is all yours.
Dean-Chatles Chapman said in the interview that he hopes Tommen will survive until the end. So he’s safe for this season?
Neither Bolton actor nominated either Bolton character. Hmm.
Emilia really nailed that scene with Peter, while not speaking Valyrian!
I think she is a ‘directors actor’ , Miguel Sapochnik directed that episode , she responds to a strong director.
I’m always suspicious when an actor says something like this. I almost view it as them being intentionally misleading. Several other actors have said similar things in interviews leading up to the season of which they were killed.
What great little snippets. I know Emilia gets ragged on, but I think she’s lovely. Iwan as well – funny how some of the most despicable characters are played by the actors people say are most thoughtful in reality. 🙂
I’m gonna say that no one in those videos will die this year. A couple on thin ice, but heck.
LoL!
I want to be in London for a Selfridges selfie with the Cocoa Dragon: melts both your mouth and your hands. Coco Chanel and Cocoa from hell, all in one store.
Which ones have done that?
Of those characters left, I really would like to see Ramsay, Walder Frey, Melisandre and Alliser Thorne bite it – in that order. But, if we kill all the villains, it would be quite boring. I miss Tywin every episode.
Ian Beattie is such a delightful man. Ya know, I really love the actors who are into the show like him and Natalia Tena. I mean, I get why Dinklage doesn’t even watch it but it’s a little annoying as a fan, how dismissive he is of it. Sorry, I know everyone loves him and I do too but it’s just so much more fun as a fan to feel a simpatico with the actors on the show.
Is he saying he will have another sex scene in the sixth season? O_o
“The sex scene in season five was a cringeworthy watch for viewers due to the age gap between Tommen and Margaery – with the young Lannister king aged around 12 or 13 while his new wife was many years older.
In real life Dean was 16 at the time of filming against his 33-year-old co-star.
However, in the original George R.R. Martin novels, the scene did not take place because Tommen was only eight-years-old.
Reflecting on the storyline he found most shocking, Dean teased: “There’s a lot in season six which I can’t tell you about, I wish I could. But for Tommen, I would say the sex scene.
“I wasn’t expecting that and [creators] David Benioff and Dan Weiss as a joke came up to me and told me, ‘Oh, we’ve done you a favour, we’ve written you in a cheeky little sex scene’ and I was like, ‘cheers’. That was the last thing I was expecting.”
But the thing that Dean found the trickiest was playing a character younger than himself: “That was the hardest thing for me. When it was published that I was going to play Tommen, all the fans of the books were like, ‘Oh, he’s turning 16’ – that was the hardest thing: to play younger and show that.”
Stargaryen,
That would mean the same for Cersei, as she must witness all her children die, but should she not die in this season, as a result of a cleganebowl ?
That all is pretty cool, blablabla, but enough walking around, we need a trailer, ay ?
Teunteulai,
The Cleganebowl is not happening this season. Cersei will win her freedom when Frankenmountain murderizes Lancel in their trail by combat.
Cleganebowl, if it happens, is likely to be next season.
Laura,
I think it is actually pretty common for an actor – especially in a lead role – to not always watch the end result, apart from public viewings where they are expected.
True, it makes them look quite uninterested. But do you take time to review every thing you have worked on in your spare time?
i’d love to have a beer with dinklage
i’d love to have a beer with dink
we’d drink in moderation
and never ever ever ever show our pink
That would be a surprise… but who knows?
Gah, I hope Tommen dies this year. 🙁
I’d like Brienne of Tarth to die, or at least to lose a battle once…
Not necessarily. The question was what scenes did he find difficult and he refers back to an answer he gave earlier, which caused a bit of controversy: “the sexscene (from season 5 of which they spoke earlier)”.
TFT,
A hundred times this. There should be a poll on how Brienne will aggravate fans in season 6.
The feminists’ champion has been too pampered by the showrunners.
Clarke gets too much shit from some fans. She’s great when she’s got great material, great actors to work with and a good actor’s director. It’s true that she doesn’t automatically elevate the material like, say, Charles Dance does —but not being at Dance’s level doesn’t make her a shit actress. Just not a great one. She’s good, and as far as I’m concerned she’s great at playing Dany.
Oh FFS… She’s beaten three previously wounded characters —Jaime, the Hound and Stannis. Is that too much for your manly ego? The hate on Brienne for defeating or killing the fanboys‘ darlings is just pathetic and childish.
TFT,
Nah,she won’t die,sorry to ruin your fantasy and even if she did at least it won’t be like bitch ass Stannis .
Ser Oromis Locke,
“There’s a lot in season six which I can’t tell you about, I wish I could. But for Tommen, I would say the sex scene.”
But it seems that suggests that goes the same direction
phantomstrife,
Everytime i read the word feminist in a negative way,i always picture some guy with a neck beard sitting in his mom’s basement and hating all women because he has no girlfriend .
Luka Nieto,
Perhaps.
I have no manly ego though. I’m a she. And I hate feminists.
I dislike how they bent over backwards to have Stannis and The Hound at Brienne’s mercy. Firstly, have them cross her path (convenient and forced). Secondly, have them injured prior so that she has the advantage. Her storyline since leaving KL consisted of her wandering around, staring at a tower for a candle and beating/killing fan favourites along the way.
Her speech before killing Stannis was cringeworthy. Renly, the rightful king? He was the younger brother, dumbass Brienne. I just don’t like her in both the books and the show. I also prefer male characters in general (they’re usually constructed better) but that’s another story.
I love you. Feminism means equality, means wanting women to be the treated the same as men and recognising that there’s still a way to go before we get there. There will be need for fight as long as we hear of a girl who is sexually assaulted and someone victim blaming because she was drunk or wearing a big cleavage.
There are some feminists that are annoying? Of course there are. It’s a pretty large group. There are also black people who are annoying and say every single thing is racism, but nobody questions the whole movement because of them like they do with feminism.
And saying “the feminists” did this or that on the show is like people think it’s a secret cult in Hollywood or something. There are millions of feminists, some hate Brienne, some love her, some love Sansa, some hate her.
If you think D&D are feminists, you haven’t been paying attention.
Cersei + Tommen sex scene confirmed. 😀 😀 Incest level UP!
phantomstrife,
So, you’re a woman who stands against the idea of gender equality and also does not like seeing female characters onscreen. That, honestly, screams mommy issues to me, because I wonder – what’s in life for you if you don’t like people like yourself? At least the neckbeard manchildren have an interest in bashing feminists – it makes them feel stronger because, personal failures though they may be, they belong to the socially more powerful gender. But you…?
The biggest problem with Emilia Clarke’s acting is that she is inconsistent. She can be really good in one episode and bad the next. So when she gets nominated for an Emmy for one of her stronger episodes, we remember all the not so convincing scenes she has had within the same season and feel that her nomination is undeserved. For me personally, she is particularly unconvincing when she has to portray the badass khaleesi side of her character with all her epic lines. It comes across as too forced. On the other hand, she is quite good when she has to show any kind of emotional vulnerability (the one exception being the scene where Dany banishes Jorah, where her performance really took me out of that scene).
ghost of winterfell,
Heh, it’s very interesting how two people watch the same scene and can get 2 very different opinions.
You think her acting is forced, but I think that is a choice, either hers or the directors, Dany being on purpose so ”royal” and tight, not the best words to describe it, but my lack of proper english shows here as I can’t think of other words…
Anyway what I wanted to say. I think this is a deliberate choice. Dany is trying to be strong, some times over the top, too hide her insecurities and mask the fact that she isn’t so confident of her actions.
I actoully really liked the scene when she banished Jorah and tought that Emilia did a good job.
r-hard,
ein?
Mihnea,
agreed!
Brienne a feminist champion? Ummm… no.
“This word… I do-not-think-it-means-what-you think-it means…”
Feminist: advocating social, political, legal, and economic rights for women equal to those of men.
Brienne is just a kick-ass chick with a sword who runs around trying to connect plotlines. The closest I can think of her advocating for anything feminine and progressive was her chat with Arya about swords. She was gay rights activist (for Renly) sorta… well, no not really, I don’t think she believes he was gay, and I think she called the rumours “disgusting”. Well at least she wore a rainbow cloak, and defended Renly’s rights. Very accidentally progressive of her.
Ugggh… labels are stupid… if I had to a feminist champion for GoT I might go with Margery… or Dorne! Yes that’s it the book version of Dorne. Or GRRM himself. But Brienne? Oh Varys!!! They will find out Varys is a woman after his death, and that will go a long way to change fantasy medieval perceptions about women… 😛
Yaga,
I don’t hate my gender. Where did I write that? I’m against hypocritical feminists (the biggest/loudest fraction), not women in general, that’s all. And just because I prefer male characters doesn’t mean I hate female ones. I have my likes and dislikes on both sides, it just so happens I usually find male protagonists/antagonists better-written and more compelling. What a way to misinterpret my comments.
FYI, have never had issues with my mother but so nice of you to try your armchair psychoanalysis skills on me. A big fail this time though.
what do we say…to the god of death…?
Where’s the trailer?
Not being fond of feminists automatically makes you against gender equality? LOL That’s new. I don’t need them to represent my interests. So many of them are extreme, crazy and hypocritical, they give women a bad name.
I hated the meeting with Tyrion, honestly. The speech and specially the line “I am terrible”. Also the way she delivered the line about knowing the mad king earned his nickname was cringe worthy. Other actress could have made it sound modest, she made it sound super arrogant and it was something the character has just learned.
I hate the character too, so that doesn’t help, but I think the delivery of the lines that were supposed to be bad ass are just awful.
Name *,
Not today. 😛
Yeah, thats why I said its just my opinion!
Does this really come across in her performance? I mean, I know this to be true from my book knowledge, but I don’t always see this in her performance. When she has to come across as Royal and distant, all I see is a blank face. For example, in S4 when she first learns of Cleon the Butcher and decides to stay in Mereen to rule, in that moment we should have seen Dany”s doubts and insecurities , but all I saw was a blank face. Her words to Jorah implied her doubts, her facial expressions were completely non-existent.
However, I thought her performance was good and quite convincing in S5E2, during the execution scene. Thats why I feel she is inconsistent.
Mihnea,
I see what you did there! And I don’t like it. 🙁
In the last post you said you hated feminists, and that in no way shows a hatred for your gender, but it does show a misconception of what feminism is. It’s wanting gender equality, and if you want that, I’m sorry to say you are a feminist too. You can hate the hypocritical ones, as you put it. But you said that male characters are usually better written, which I agree is usually true, and isn’t that a problem feminists should be sensitive about, like Natalie Dormer says in her interviews? The only difference is that we’re saying that female characters deserved to have an equal depth, and the fact that they don’t reflects a sexist society.
Stargaryen,
IMO Emilia is only slightly better than Sand Snakes chicks when it comes to acting on the show. And they’re the worst. She’s delivered some speeches well, but mostly it’s been bad and forced. I cringe at her acting ‘regal’, it’s so stiff in a bad way, especially when she’s sitting on that high chair meeting with the lowly people of Meereen. I liked her most in her conversation with Selmy about Rhaegar. Her performance felt natural. Her big lines like the ones about wheel-breaking or being queen and ruling are awful in written form as well as deliverance.
I don’t agree with the Ramsay actor.
Joffrey was the kind of villain you love to hate.
Ramsay is the kind of villain I like to see get off my television screen.
They’ve built him up too much. Too much importance. It’s a taxing and tedious performance.
ghost of winterfell,
Where you see a blank face, I see Dany’s insecurities and her doubting herself.
That’s how I see it.
Hell I think Emilia is one of the best actresses in the show.
And disagree on her not being able to act ”badass”.
Her scene in S4 EP2 when she orders the catapults too fire, was in my opinion a perfect scene.
The way she said ”nemebetas” said many things about her. Her future scenes and her story in S5 showed that she isn’t sure how too rule and how to please the slaves and former slavers.
But that scene showed her determination too end something she taught was evil and cruel, even if she didn’t had a clear idea what she’ll do afterwards.
Like I said, there are as many opinions as there are people.
But too me Emilia’s acting is one of the best in the show. She can portray a weak and insecure Dany, she can portray a strong Dany, like her ”dracarys” and ”nemebetas” moments, and she can portray a Dany that tries too look strong and decisive, when in truth she is far away from these things.
Mister Stoneheart,
I actoully think it’s the other way around. Joffrey was pure evil, so is Ramsey don’t get me wrong, but Joffrey never had scenes where you can actoully feel something for him.
Iwan in my opinion gave this monster a human face, but it can only be seen when he is with Roose. That’s when the torture loving monster turns into a little boy looking for his fathers love/approval.
People to this day still get on her case. They forget that she was sensational season 3 episode 4. Actually very good season 3.
Will be interesting to see how things go with the Dothraki. She will be speaking more Dothraki season 6 than she did in season 1.
Boojam,
We don’t forget, we just disagree.
I hope there is a scene where Tyrion learns of Jon Snows death and reflects on him and their brief meeting. Hopefully Danny is there and makes a statement of gratification only to be corrected by Tyrion. It will be cool if later they end up meeting and Tyrion is like what! Hopefully by the end of this season there will be a clear path to both sides meeting.
Brienne is, IMO, an great character. However, I wouldn’t say that
she is particularly in vogue with modern-day feminism. As portrayed in the show she’s more the 90’s kind of “kick ass chick” feminism ala Sara Connor in terminator 2. Sort of the “I can be as masculine as the boys and therefore I’m better” type of thing. I personally think she’s a much more complex character than that, especially in the book. But also in the show, she does show vulnerabilities and romantic dreams that are more in line with feminine traits than the more obvious masculine ones.
But a big part of what modern-day feminists strive to demonstrate is that in fact feminine is not worse than masculine. As a result, among the more feminist side of the ASOIAF fandom (check out tumblr for example), feminine characters like Sansa are much more popular than more “masculine” female characters like Brienne or Arya.
My personal view is that a big goal as a society should be to forget about labeling people or actions as feminine or masculine. All this gender-role crap just damages people. Rather we should think about things that are virtuous or harmful regardless of what arbitrary gendered labels we give them. Which, indeed is the primary goal of feminism all along – the way that our actions are judged should be completely unrelated to whatever gender (or race etc) we happen to be.
Queenofthrones,
https://www.instagram.com/p/BCscHJwGKCW/
phantomstrife,
I am not really fond of feminists myself either.
But to each his/her own
On that note, Happy International Women’s day to all my fellow ladies 🙂
Edit: Extreme Feminists, is what I meant
phantomstrife,
What Stargaryen said. If you are for equality, then you are for feminism. And if you hate badly written female characters, hate the – overwhelmingly male – writers.
Queenofthrones,
I think I agree with your desire to get rid of gendered labels. I love getting physical and I’m a woman. So, by all measures, kick-assedness is feminine for me, because I do that and I like that. Saying that Sansa is somehow ‘more feminine’ than Brienne or Arya simply denigrates their (and mine) femininity to me. What are they (and I), second-class women?
Why can’t we just drop the feminine/masculine labels for things that have nothing to do with sex and gender?
Pizza rolls, not gender roles.
Deesensfan,
Thank you! 🙂
In that same spirit, here in the US, today is also National Pancake Day.
And tomorrow is National Meatball Day.
Flora Linden,
You’re welcome. 🙂
Yummy
Pancake day should be world wide.
Men get discriminated in some aspects of life too, and white straight males are the only targets who get verbal put-downs with impunity. We’re no longer in the middle ages when it comes to gender equality. It’s not as bad as hardcore feminists make it out to be.
I’ve always found it curious that many people have no objection to seeing male characters maimed, tortured and/or killed, but they are up in arms when it happens to female characters. Shouldn’t equality be there too? Also a character getting killed doesn’t usually cause widespread shitstorm, not like rape does (especially when it’s done to a female, very rarely when it’s a male character on the receiving end of it*). Which is a peculiar thing, given that murder is far worse.
Sansa’s season 5 ordeal caused everyone, from the grandmother and her dog to the media pundits, to lose their shit. Compare that to
Name *,
: ) correct answer
Never confuse “not as bad” with “good”: we are along way from “good” still, and people need to keep complaining until it is “good.” And speaking as a middle-aged white male, we still need to get over ourselves.
Um: what sex scene? They showed them getting out of bed. That is no more a sex scene that it is a sleeping scene.
Wimsey,
No, it is good, it’s only not perfect. But nothing is. Like I said both sides get discriminated in some ways. Women just like to whine a lot.
Joffrey>Ramsay
phantomstrife,
If you believe that gender roles damage people, that’s feminist thinking. Men are damaged by society because they are viewed as “disposable” and expected to repress emotions such as sadness. In their life, men are expected to seek power and sex (regardless of what they actually might want from life). Meanwhile women are damaged because they are expected to put others (men, offsprings) ambitions first and to repress emotions such as anger. And desiring sex makes them dirty.
IF you think the world would be a better place if these arbitrary nonsense was not expected of people, that’s feminist thinking. Really not much more to it than that.
Also If someone says that rape is bad that doesn’t mean they think torture and murder are good. Speaking personally I hated the Theon torture at least as much as the Sansa rape. But Another potential explanation for “over the top” reactions to rape actually is a deeply anti-feminist one. That is, a paternalistic attitude towards women and sex – that we have to keep women under the protection of men so they don’t “get raped”. And when it does happen it violates those (sexist) norms and therefore causes a stir greater than if sex were not part of the crime. Interestingly, rape with a male victim violates a different set of sexist Norms (the victim being forced into a “female” role considered to be fundamentally degrading).
phantomstrife,
I’m going to college now. It’s 30 degrees outside, but I’m wearing pants, not shorts, because I don’t feel safe wearing shorts when I’m taking the bus at night. I don’t want to get harassed and then hear someone say I was asking for it. But I guess it’s all good, because a white male said so. You know, there are a lot of people complaining about extreme feminists, but I get on their side every time I hear someone so oblivious.
Stargaryen,
30 degrees? You need a coat, sweater, scarf, and mittens, right? Oh, 30 C. I see.
This is why I’m a feminist, https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2016/03/07/student-goes-public-after-alleged-rapist-was-assigned-500-word-paper-punishment.
I haven’t seen anyone comment on this, but did Peter just said in that video that he knows what his character arc is going to be for the series? I mean, his answer about the Danny-Tyrion meeting question was: “When I first got hired for this job, they told me what my character arc was…it’s so inspiring to have that as an actor, that trajectory…” LOL.
Deesensfan,
Visenya Targaryen right there
Ginevra,
Hahaha, I forget some people use Fahrenheit.
Stargaryen,
Isn’t this her first real acting job? I think I remember an early interview talking about her just being out of acting school.
Sullied by Knight,
Yah, she had a guest role (patient of the week kind of thing) in some British medical drama plus some stage work but that’s it.
And another comment section gets ruined because some morons clearly lack attention and are looking for it on the internet,good fucking job,i hope that gave you some meaning to your existence !
I thought the Tyrion/Dany meeting was awful to be honest. Found it to be a rather boring scene. Admittedly, I dislike Emilia Clarke’s portrayal and struggle to connect with many of Daenerys’ scenes as a result. This could be part of the reason I disliked the scene. Different strokes for different folks I suppose.
Ser Oromis Locke,
The truth is not understood very well. Some think he refers to the scene of the fifth season. It is very ambiguous. His words can have another intepretación; he speaks of a “shocking” scene will happen in the sixth season. That is, suggests that there may be another scene. On the other hand, it may indeed be what you say, but leaves me with doubts
[b]”Reflecting on the storyline he found most shocking, Dean teased:” [/b] It can not be that this is the most shocking scene.
Seriously.
Queenofthroneseny,
If women are expected to be under the protection then it’s treating them better than men. Doesn’t equality entail the same treatment for all? A woman being hit should be viewed in the same way as a man hit. So what if we’re just not as physically strong. Equal is equal. Can’t be selective about it, and cherry pick in what ways women ought to be treated equally while in others with special care or sensitivity.
There are still people who deny men can also be victims of domestic abuse from their girlfriends/wives or that a woman can actually rape a man (common misconception: a man’s consent is a given, he will always want it). Others look at such cases with dismissive attitude or with ridicule. What, a guy didn’t want to have sex with a chick? Is he gay? If not, then wth is wrong with him? How did a girl overpower him? Dude’s prolly a weak ass nutso, not a ‘real man’. Such is the response from the society. That’s discriminatory.
Unlike females, boys/men are expected to suck it up, grin and bear it. If they are victimised, they are seen as less in need of care and support. Like the violence they are subjected to can’t possibly affect them as much as women. Many times they are blamed for their abuse, while their offenders are held less accountable. The reason for the double standards is the expectation of males to be pillars of strength and stoicism, to be always equipped with armour necessary to withstand adversity. The social stigma that male victims face makes it clear that this is where women have it way better than them. People sympathise with and support female victims. How many cases of abuse against a man have never been reported each year due to the victim fearing the dismissal or mockery? God only knows.
The loudest bunch who goes apeshit over fictional rape of a woman are feminists. They’re not being paternalistic.
Let me join this nice discussion about feminism and Brienne. First, I should admit that I don’t like her as a character but I do like how his character mocks extreme feminism (and nowadays all the feminism is quite extreme). Let’s check. Brienne wields a sword better than many men, but what’s the pay-off of her skills? She fails to save Renley, she fails to bring Jamie to KL, she offers her services to Sansa and Aria in such a stupid way that both of them reject her, the only good thing she has done so far (at least in the show) was granting Stannis a quick death and even that was unintentional, because her true intention was to punish him. Summary: so far she was an awkward and good for nothing nuisance and that impression will hardly go away, even if she does something good in the upcoming seasons. Her fight with the Hound is a perfect illustration of what equal treatment would be like in reality. And her life was saved only because Jamie had gender prejudices – if she was treated according to gender equality standards, she would be eaten by the bear. Conclusion: gender roles have many advantages and women should think twice before calling for equal treatment. Of cause, I am joking a bit but in general it’s not funny.
Ah yes, another post turns into a complete snark-fest. Very much looking forward to when we can actually discuss episodes.
Inga,
yep, both genders have advantages and disadvantages relating to the general perception, social standards and expectations.
D&D are not feminists, and neither are they misogynists despite having been labelled as such time and time again, with it reaching its peak after Sansa’s s5 arc. If they’re misogynists for having Sansa face sexual violence, then GRRM is as well for treating Jeyne Poole even worse, or Charlaine Harris for having Sookie raped, or Diana Gabaldon is a misandrist for subjecting Jamie Fraser to intense beatings and sodomy.
Let’s go further, they all must hate humans for they hurt and kill them off one by one in their fiction, right? No.
phantomstrife,
When women are still being killed for “honor” in many parts of the world, I say we are still living in the dark ages. When a woman is raped or sexually abused but a military institution covers it because ‘you know, boys been boys, and all’ and the ‘integrity of the institution is more important than the victim’, I say we are still living in the dark ages. Sometimes people forget that the world is much bigger and complex than their often sheltered lives. Yes, extreme feminists are obnoxious (and by the way so are many other groups) but feminism is still needed regardless of how great some women think their lives are.
harlequeen,
I do agree. To my mind a true work of art (and ASOIAF/GoT is really a work of art) cannot be misogynists or misandrist or racist or whatsoever, no matter of what it portrays, because any true work of art portrays universal problems and solutions even when it portrays atrocities. That’s why we found such things appealing.
I would become a FM for that. I would become no one and assassinate/devour/digest that egg so hard! Is it beautiful? Yes, of course it is. But chocolate is not meant to be art. Its meant to be consumed…..by me ?
I ignore it all and say my own thing about the title topic. But there are some of you that I’d love to be in some sort of moderated forum with. I miss a lot of good points and such in the comments because I end up giving up on reading through when I see a lot of drama.
Deesensfan,
Thank you!
I loved the Lioness Lagertha.
phantomstrife,
Did you even read what I wrote? Because all I got from your reply is One big WHOOSH!
It’s exactly the sorts of gender biased, gender role, gender expectation shit you’re describing that feminism opposes.
Post-panel, we asked cast members to tell us the one scene they would’ve loved to have been in, or the character they would’ve wanted to be, other than their own. Bonus question? Give us a one-word tease for Season 6 based off their newly-delivered scripts.
I’d say the feeling’s mutual, but a good friend of mine in Japan taught me it’s demeaning to hate people who’re beneath one. There’s no conspiracy to have Brienne promoted as a character, by the way. Though I’m flattered that you think that I and thousands like me are whispering in the show-runners’ ears.
“I dreamed of you, my lady.” [books] Doesn’t sound like gender equality or lack of equality at all. Sounds like he was being ironic about the nameless tension between Brienne and himself.
You’re supposed to help your friends out, too. That’s part of being human and not a sociopath. I’d like every one of the female posters reading this to cast their minds back to the last time they helped a male friend and there was absolutely nothing in it for them. None of us did such a thing in the interests of equality. We did it because we help our mates / buddies etc.