Daily News introduces a Game of Thrones advent calendar; plus more new pics from Season 5!

With one month left on our countdown clock to the season fve premiere, Daily News has decided to launch a countdown of their own. They were treated to a visit to the set in Belfast, conducting interviews, taking a sneak peek behind the scenes, and the like – and now they are ready to reveal one snippet each day.

The first one is already up and teases – more death. The producers seem to be hell-bent this year on not missing any opportunity to emphasize they are not done killing characters yet. The exact quote from “a production source”:

I hope when it comes out it’s a real shock and a heartbreak. I really hope it is. It’s like Joffrey’s death or the Red Wedding. It’s a scene that we want to have that kind of impact.

Another nice bonus to surface in the past couple days: a new batch of pics, these ones courtesy of Sky Atlantic.

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Arya 2

Arya

Cersei and Jaime

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Daenerys

Ellaria

Grey Worm

Jaime 2

Jon and Mance 2

Jon and Mance

Melisandre

sansa and LF

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Tommen

Varys

From HBO.com, we also have this new image of Sansa, Littlefinger, and Yohn Royce. The photo info indicates the image is from episode 41, which is the season 5 premiere:

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One last minor note- the HBO schedule has been updated to confirm the episode title of season 5 episode 4 as “The Sons of the Harpy.” The episode is showing a running time of 51 minutes.

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    1. My prediction – Areo Hotah chops Bronn’s head off this season.

      That Bhuj Axe has been featured way too prominently to stay clean all season.

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    2. Wonder what Sansa, Littlefinger, and Yohn Royce are watching there. Having that outdoor platform of some sort makes it look like a tourney or something.

      Also that seems like further confirmation of Dany

      going down to visit Rhaegal and Viserion,

      as stated in that leaked episode synopsis from before.

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    3. *Walks in* SANSAAAAAAA!!!!!!! 🙂 *Walks away*

      *Comes back* Someone put a jacket on Mel. Its snowing! The “twins” are going to freeze off. #HelpfulAdvise *Goes away again*

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    4. They already have uploaded the second day of the calendar.

      Great pictures! As I said in the previous thread, great to have Royce back.

      Oh, and Sansa and Littlefinger appear in episode 1, then. Great 😉

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    5. Schrödinger’s Cat,

      Judging by the differing reactions (LF is amused, Sansa and Yohn looked stoic), I’d suggest that it’s either Robin trying to joust, or Brienne has ridden up and is talking about Sansa (which would make Brienne look like an idiot).

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    6. Most intrigued by Sansa pics – have no idea what’s going on there, especially where she is in some kind of enclosure by herself.

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    7. Lion of Night,

      By new look, I suppose I should say “the look that she started cultivating at the end of S4” but I feel like S5 will be Sansa’s moment to shine in the world of political manipulation.

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    8. Luka Nieto,

      They hadn’t when we wrote the post, so them’s the breaks. Next post.

      edit: Never mind, Day 2 is some pointless junk with Emilia’s mom. We wouldn’t post that anyway.

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    9. Carice looks absolutely incredible. I have never seen a more perfect realisation of a literary character than her Melisandre! Everything I dreamed and more. Now, is that snowfall or is it cinders from a fire sacrifice? I wonder if it is from the same scene as Selyse on the ground. If so, could this be the burning of Shireen Baratheon?

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    10. And there’s also this at EW: Game of Thrones producers: Leaving out Bran is like Return of the Jedi.

      I think it’s a great idea, and a great way to look at it. GRRM said so himself, in the context of his planned 5-year gap between ASOS and the next novel:

      [the gap] worked well with some characters like Arya — who at end the of Storm of Swords has taken off for Braavos. You can come back five years later, and she has had five years of training and all that. Or Bran, who was taken in by the Children of the Forest and the green ceremony, [so you could] come back to him five years later. That’s good. Works for him.

      Essentially that’s what they’re doing in the show —what GRRM had planned, but scrapped, not because of Bran but because it didn’t work for other characters. I really like the Star Wars comparison. Never looked at it that way. Now, when Bran comes back, he can be mysterious and cool in a way he never was, because we don’t know everything that he has learned.

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    11. Hodor?,

      Well, it is a ceremonial weapon. Areo Hotah is a Bearded Priest and his weapon symbolises that.

      And he does fight with it, we saw it in one of the making of videos.

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    12. Luka Nieto,

      Ok…I’ll accept that, but it would be nice to passively demonstrate that something is going on up north. Maybe a whisper or two in the wind, a vision or two…..(will he and BR be tinkering…?) Would they consider that?….please?

      See ya in S6, rootboy! What’s a Hodor to do?

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    13. Arya seems to be heavily featured in promotional material for the show, yet she hasnt realy appeared in any of the trailers that much. That could obviously be because they dont want to spoil her new look etc but hopefully it doesnt mean that she wont be featured much in the season

      They have a lot of content for her to fill the season, but im honestly expecting them to push her to the side in favour of Dany, Tyrion (who will always have the most screentime) and even Sansa

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    14. Galli,

      She looks great, yes, but let’s not go overboard… the “real” Melisandre has red eyes. A great interpretation, but in no way a “perfect realisation of a literary character.” If we’re giving out that award, half the cast of Harry godsdamned Potter beats her.

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    15. That’s a very good point by Luka. But I also have a suspicion about the Bran arc, and that is that the showrunners are not yet confident about how to actualise his story to the best of their ability. Those scenes with the introduction of ‘The Children’ were rather unconvincing – the archaic ‘Leaf’ figure with her posh accent was shoddy and poorly realised. They should be speaking an ancient language which Bran should be trained to understand.

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    16. I think Carice has captured her particular character’s essence better than any actor on the show has theirs. Absurd physical details such as red eyes are of no importance. She has mastered that character – heart and soul.

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    17. Sansa,Littlefinger, and Bronze Yohn are watching Sweet Robin learn how to fight. The image of a Vale shield in the EW article said that it is used by Robin Arryn as he learns how to fight.

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    18. Walter Harrow,

      Has Arya ever not been featured heavily? She is arguably the second most popular character on the show. I don’t think you have to worry about her being ignored.

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    19. Galli,

      I didn’t say anything that implies I disagree with any of that. Nor did I imply that it would be a good thing to throw a pair of red contacts in her eyes.

      Nonetheless, I tend to think “absurd physical details” count immensely when you start using words like “perfect”.

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    20. Tyrion Pimpslap,

      There were only a couple of Arya’s chapters left to adapt for Season 4, yet she appeared in 6 episodes, which is quite an achievement, despite being the season in which she has had less screen-time yet. That’s about to change now, I’m sure. I expect Arya to have one of the meatier storylines this season —especially considering she’s the only main character in it.

      Tyrion Pimpslap,

      Good one! Makes sense. That’s what they rode out for, after all: “He needs to learn how to swing a sword. How to ride a horse. […] Time for him to tour the Vale, to visit all the castles in his domain. Time for Robin to leave the nest.”

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    21. That look on Dany’s face….

      … likely she will be blazed out of the catacombs in any moment

      *fingers crossed for revenge of the teenage dragons* 🙂

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    22. Hodor’s Bastard:
      Luka Nieto,

      Ok…I’ll accept that, but it would be nice to passively demonstrate that something is going on up north. Maybe a whisper or two in the wind, a vision or two…..(will he and BR be tinkering…?)Would they consider that?….please?

      See ya in S6, rootboy! What’s a Hodor to do?

      Yeah I at least want to be able to hear Brans voice creeping Theon out from the Winterfell Tree once

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    23. Agree the Carice/Mel pic is great. The snow and airbrushing gives a good mystical feel

      I can understand they are trying to tone down the fantasy and up the Medieval drama, but it would have been nice to see some purple contact lens or somethingfor Dany and red for Mel and even for Tyrion (funny how his bleached blonder than his siblings hair only seemed to last a few episodes), it is one of those subtle things in the background not always obvious but gives it an otherwordly edge

      One of those things where the small things can count, they can’t fit everything in in a TV adaption but it’s good to make the small micro-references. EG Sansa in the crypts is obviously a nod to Barbrey Dustin etc even though she won’t be in

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    24. Luka Nieto,

      I think that has a good chance of happening. It’s a great little scene in the books and the audience will be puzzled by Bran’s disappearance after finally getting to the meaty part. Mysterious hints and prods like this one that inject a bit of otherworldly atmosphere and at the same time remind the audience that cool stuff is happening with Bran off-screen would fit perfectly.

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    25. Walter Harrow,

      I would guess that every image that we’ve seen of Arya in the trailers (about 4 in total) comes from the first two episodes. Most of the promotional photos featuring her probably do as well. Yes, there are things like the EW article where she’s wearing her new costume, but that’s removed from the context of the actual show, so they can hide whatever they want to hide.

      And what they want to hide is clearly the return of Tom Wlaschiha (his name appearing in the credits on HBO’s schedule notwithstanding) and the interior of the House of Black and White. Those are surprises that they want the Unsullied to experience on the screen.

      I wouldn’t be worried for Arya’s screentime this year. The uncharacteristically low episode count for Maisie Williams last year (6 episodes, after appearing in 9 for each of the first three seasons) was a function of the showrunners deciding to adapt Arya’s only 2 post-Red Wedding chapters in ASOS into a full season arc so that she didn’t get too far ahead of everyone else. If anything, she appeared more than she might have otherwise. Tyrion and Dany might have more screentime by minutes and seconds , but Arya is a very popular character, and she has a great arc this year. She’ll get her due.

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    26. I think the Bronze Yohn picture also reminds us that just because we haven’t heard about actors being on set doesn’t mean that they haven’t.

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    27. Is there some sort of pattern to the sigils they use and the daily facts? Traumatic scene and baratheon sigil? Something about dany and acting= mummery, deception=greyjoy sigil=daario=euron!

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    28. Sean C.:
      Schrödinger’s Cat,

      Judging by the differing reactions (LF is amused, Sansa and Yohn looked stoic), I’d suggest that it’s either Robin trying to joust, or Brienne has ridden up and is talking about Sansa (which would make Brienne look like an idiot).

      I’m expecting Sansa to learn that 1) Brienne met Arya and the Hound, “killed” the Hound and lost Arya, who is who knows where, and 2) the two of them had been at the Bloody Gate but left when they learned of Lysa’s death – she could have met her sister but they missed each other. It would be pointless to introduce that weird moment of Arya and Sandor revealing their identities to the knights at the gate and not use it, just as it would be pointless if Brienne’s arrival only ends with her being turned away.

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    29. Annara Snow,

      I’m actually more interested in the effect that the Hound’s reported demise has on Sansa than her reaction to learning that her sister is/was nearby.

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    30. Looks like Sweetrobin’s been handed over to someone to look after.

      Tourney is traditional way to celebrate some announcement, like LF gaining The Vale to his cause. He seems to be wallowing in his ‘glory’. Sansa looks like she’s doing the cold shoulder routine? Stone Cold Alayne? Clearly nobody to match Flower Knight in with this list.
      Where’s the t-shirt guy? Alayne 3:16…. or whatever.

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    31. On what people are saying about eye colors, they did try to put the Targ siblings in purple contacts back in season one. But both actors found them really uncomfortable, and so they were cut. I’d much rather have good acting from my characters than properly colored eyes on a character who’s blinking and rubbing their eyes every few seconds.

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    32. With that Sansa picture being from 501, when I wasn’t expecting her to be seen until 502, she remains on the short list of characters to be in every season premiere, which at present is: Tyrion, Jon, Dany, Sansa, Cersei.

      Joffrey appeared in the first four season premieres, but obviously will not make the fifth one.

      Jorah has also been in the first four, but he won’t be in the fifth.

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    33. Uther Snow:
      Looks like Sweetrobin’s been handed over to someone to look after.

      Tourney is traditional way to celebrate some announcement, like LF gaining The Vale to his cause. He seems to be wallowing in his ‘glory’. Sansa looks like she’s doing the cold shoulder routine? Stone Cold Alayne? Clearly nobody to match Flower Knight in with this list.

      Or the dude who won the Hand’s Tourney, saving the Knight of Flowers’ life.

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    34. BrightroarsBane:
      On what people are saying about eye colors, they did try to put the Targ siblings in purple contacts back in season one. But both actors found them really uncomfortable, and so they were cut. I’d much rather have good acting from my characters than properly colored eyes on a character who’s blinking and rubbing their eyes every few seconds.

      This. Also, Carice has naturally stunning blue eyes. I’m glad they didn’t use contacts or CGi colouring to change them.

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    35. Sean C.,

      The episode 1 appearance I think helps make some sense of the Sansa plot.

      Episode 1, they’re still in the Vale with Robin and Royce. Littlefinger explains whatever his Bolton scheme is, and they leave Robin in Royce’s care as they head off for Winterfell.

      Episode 2, they’ve left the Vale and are in the Riverlands, where they can intersect with Brienne. LF’s troops pursue Brienne while he and Sansa continue north to Winterfell, to probably make it there by episode 4. Then you can have one or two pre-Sansa Winterfell scenes with the Boltons in the first three episodes to get us up to speed with them before whatever the Sansa plot is gets into motion.

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    36. All the photos look great and incredibly intriguing. Kind of disappointed that instead of a Red Priestess we get a Murky Wine Dark one instead. (I’m talking about her robe and her hair, NOT her eyes. The red eyes would look ridic.)

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    37. Walter Harrow,

      Well, since she was one of four characters chosen to be on the cover of EW’s GOT special, I think we Arya fans can rest assured that she won’t be pushed too far aside.

      I suspect the reason she hasn’t been in the trailers as much is because her content is very spoiler-y. Unless they want to give away the whole HoBaW thing, they can only really show her Ep1 material.

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    38. Jon,

      More of the same, tells us nothing new. People will probably complain about their accents, even though they are not in character. And I’m sure we’ll get several comments about being worried about their portrayal.

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    39. Don’t understand why is Yohn Royce wearing harness all the time. Is it all about men’s ‘iron’ fashion in the Vale? Or he has nothing else to wear? Maybe the show had run out of the money?

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    40. Jon,

      Cool! Thanks.

      Somehow in all the previous talk of them working together, I thought that meant politically and not literally fighting as a team. That will definitely be cool to see. Maybe I’ll get some warm and fuzzy “Charmed” flashbacks. 😀

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    41. King Stannis,

      If I recall correctly, TrystaneSnow, who worked as an extra in Croatia, detailed a scene between Littlefinger and Lancel and said the director was Mark Mylod, who directs episodes 3 and 4.

      But I don’t have a source. I’d like to have one, because I’ve been asking myself if we’re so sure that Littlefinger will be there so early on.

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    42. Is it just me or does it look like there are some new uniforms in that Melisandre pic?They don’t look like Wildlings to me, maybe northern clansmen? And I’m not talking about the Baratheon knights.

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    43. Luka Nieto,

      Sounds legit. I suppose perhaps for the royal wedding or funeral.
      A man like Petyr gotta show some respect by showing up on either event to continue playing the game of scheme he does.
      Don’t want to raise Eyebrows why he couldn’t attend

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    44. I’m sure this means nothing, but I find it interesting what minor houses sigils they’re using as pictures for their Calendar:

      1 – Baratheon
      2 – Greyjoy
      3 – The Sight / Three-Eyed Raven
      4 – Tully
      5 – Frey
      6 – Stark
      7 – Arryn
      8 – White Walker
      9 – Targaryen
      10 – Lannister
      11 – Bolton
      12 – Night’s Watch
      13 – Florent
      14 – Bracken
      15 – Reed
      16 – Sparr
      17 – Smallwood
      18 – Clegane
      19 – Blackwood
      20 – Mallister
      21 – Whent
      22 – Estermont
      23 – Cerwyn
      24 – Martell
      25 – Tyrell
      26 – Mormont
      27 – Baelish
      28 – Dayne
      29 – Karstark
      30 – Umber
      31 – Manderly

      Many houses from the Riverlands and the North…

      (But then again, this probably means nothing)

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    45. Luka Nieto,

      One of them is wearing a hood and another has something that looks like some kind of leather helmet. I could just be seeing things.

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    46. We have been severely lacking any promotion for the Winterfell/Bolton storyline. This is starting to worry me. I hope we get more of them than last season.

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    47. Messy Justin Massey:
      I’m sure this means nothing, but I find it interesting what minor houses sigils they’re using as pictures for their Calendar:

      1 – Baratheon
      2 – Greyjoy
      3 – The Sight / Three-Eyed Raven
      4 – Tully
      5 – Frey
      6 – Stark
      7 – Arryn
      8 – *can’t see it properly*
      9 – Targaryen
      10 – Lannister
      11 – Bolton
      12 – Night’s Watch
      13 – Florent
      14 – Bracken
      15 – Reed
      16 – *what house is this?*
      17 – Smallwood
      18 – Clegane
      19 – Blackwood
      20 – Mallister
      21 – Whent
      22 – Estermont
      23 – Cerwyn
      24 – Martell
      25 – Tyrell
      26 – Mormont
      27 – Baelish
      28 – Dayne
      29 – Karstark
      30 – Umber
      31 – Manderly

      So many houses from the Riverlands and the North…

      (But then again, this probably means nothing)

      Yea, just a cool calendar that’s about it. HBO probably just told one of their interns like “Hey Asshole, want to make yourself useful? Make a calendar with ASOIAF banners”

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    48. One of Roose Bolton’s leeches:
      We have been severely lacking any promotion for the Winterfell/Bolton storyline. This is starting to worry me. I hope we get more of them than last season.

      I honestly laughed . Didn’t you see the recent trailer ? What else do you want

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    49. Loving the pics. Sophie’s nailed the “bitch, don’t @ me” face. Glad Yohn Royce is back, the Vale needs some consistency. The intricacy of Areo’s long-axe is staggering, kudos to the weapon/costume crew.

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    50. King Stannis: Yea, just a cool calendar that’s about it. HBO probably just told one of their interns like “Hey Asshole, want to make yourself useful? Make a calendar with ASOIAFbanners”

      Yeah, I guess, you’re right :/

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    51. Afeastfordances,

      I’m thinking it goes more like this:

      E1- Sansa, Littlefinger, Robyn, Royce… A sort of reintroduction to the whole Vale crew and to the new Sansa. Littlefinger gets summoned to King’s Landing (for the wedding?).
      E2-3- Littlefinger either reaches KL for the wedding or is on his way there. Brienne tackles some Vale knights and catches a glimpse of Sansa and Pod recognizes her
      E3-4- Littlefinger in King’s Landing. Meets some people, sets some things in motion. Cersei receives a letter from the Boltons asking for reinforcements against Stannis, and she orders Littlefinger to take the Knights of the Vale to Winterfell.
      E5- Littlefinger and Sansa regroup, and he orders his knights to hunt down Brienne after hearing what happened. He then tells Sansa that they’re going to Winterfell and gives her the pep talk from the first trailer.
      E6-7- The Vale crew reach Winterfell, Stannis prepares for the march. Sansa is surprised to find a living Theon and fears he’ll screw up their plans. Some Littlefinger/Roose scenes, a Sansa/Theon scene in the crypts. Brienne follows the Vale forces North.
      E8-10- Things go downhill at Winterfell, and Theon risks everything to help Sansa by leaping off the walls. Brienne becomes Stannis’s captive (instead of Yara) and begins seeing his good side (starting to forget her vow). Sansa and Theon reach Stannis’s camp, and Sansa reveals herself to him (with Brienne present?). Then maybe we get a battle.
      Or
      Alternatively, if the Winterfell Worker is fake Arya and not Myranda or no one… Theon saves fake Arya and reaches the Stannis camp while Sansa (with or without Littlefinger) remains within Winterfell assuming the Manderly role and striking the Boltons from within during the battle.

      The recent “three weddings” news kind of points to Ramsay getting married (who else could it be?). If there’s no wedding in Winterfell, a lot of things get undone (Mance going to Winterfell, for instance, which actually seems likely now given that we know he gets burned early on). It also seems really weird to place Sansa back into a position of helplessness where someone as weak as Reek has to save her after her big evolution in season 4. Option 2 makes more sense, but that doesn’t mean option 1 won’t happen. Or something else entirely…

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    52. Grand maester giz:
      Uknow0,

      Yohn Royce in the show is the dude that cut William Wallace’s wife’s throat in brave heart .

      The Braveheart had been shot in 1995. So, poor Royce’s been wearing the harness for 20 years (since he fears avenging Mel Gibson)? C’mon, in the Braveheart Magistrate was the one who killed Mel’s baby, not lord Bottoms (portrayed by Royce i. e. Rupert Vansittart). Btw, James Cosmo (Jeor Mormont) had appeared in the Braveheart too.

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    53. My question is: Where is Jorah’s picture?! Why is he always excluded? Iain Glen/Jorah is such an important character to the show and yet HBO shows him such disrespect. Makes me quite angry really…

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    54. jentario,

      The script leak (which has been 100% accurate so far) has the Brienne confrontation with Sansa and LF happening in either E1 or E2. This is when he gives her the “revenge” speech (they’re wearing the same clothes as in the pic with Royce). There is no time for him to go to KL before this.

      Highly likely that he goes with her to WF in E2 or E3, drops her off and then goes to King’s Landing for 3-4 episodes and possibly returns to WF by the end of the season.

      It makes sense for whatever Sansa is doing at WF (mostly with Theon) to be by herself, without LF around.

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    55. jentario,

      You think it will be Cersei’s decision to use Vale forces to bolster the North against Stannis? Tywin would be so proud! I suppose it is possible….but…Cersei?…a military strategist? Brienne captured by Stannis? Yikes! Regardless of what I think of Sansa in WF, those are interesting thoughts!

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    56. King Tommen,

      True. But he does arrive with Sansa there, we see that in the trailer.

      I’m so confused about this timeline. Which is good! Don’t wanna know everything, do I?

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    57. Luka Nieto,

      Yes. To drop her off. He’s going to King’s Landing at earliest in E3 (probably E4). There’s no way they’re going to wait for him to do whatever he’s doing there and then take Sansa to WF. We know that the Vale stuff with Royce and the Brienne stuff could be done with as early as the first episode (at the latest, the 2nd).

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    58. King Tommen,

      The interaction with Brienne will be in 502 as per the official summary for “the House of White and Black”. I think LF will leave for KL in either 501 or 502 and then return by 505 to go to WF for 506.

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    59. King Tommen,

      I’ll counter that by saying that GoT characters rarely change their costumes. Also, the episode descriptions seem to imply that Brienne’s first appearance is in episode 2 (which lines up with the leaked script, basically). I think the idea is to have the Sansa/Brienne stuff happen while Littlefinger is away, otherwise she’d be twiddling her thumbs waiting for him.

      That said, 4-5 episodes in Winterfell does seem like too few- so it might make sense to get her to Winterfell before Littlefinger heads to King’s Landing. Except that it’s just a crazy trip (crazier even than him going to Harrenhall after Bitterbridge- within one episode- in season 2), because he has to be in King’s Landing by episode 4 at the latest.

      I agree with Luka up there- I don’t know about this timeline… But one thing’s for sure: Littlefinger upgraded his jetpack.

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    60. It’s intriguing to note that in the first pic of Sansa and LF (just below the Mel one) the hats and general theme of the men behind Sansa are in the mold of the helms, colours and beard style of the Winterfell Guards from season 1 and 2 etc, rather than the Vale style for example

      So a bit of a subconscious Stark easter egg in there…

      Thematically it is probably a nod to not only about her being a Stark but also they are implied soldiers behind her, and indicate the beginning of a slow re-ascension to power for the Starks after they’ve bottomed out

      Food for thought

      http://watchersonthewall.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/sansa-and-LF.jpg

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    61. jentario:
      King Tommen,

      Depends, one can travel by sea and water (river systems) much much faster than by land, ie the Kings Road so from that perspective there is scope to move around very quickly

      Amazing to think back to season 1 travel times

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    62. favor757,

      Promotional pictures that are released before the season starts almost always come from the first 2-3 episodes only. Jorah is being excluded from the promotional pictures this season for a very good reason.

      He will (almost certainly) be entirely absent from the first two episodes. He should make his first appearance of the season towards the end of Episode 3 … when he captures Tyrion. That’s a surprise plot twist that HBO wants to keep under wraps. You’ll notice that there have been no shots in the trailers of Tyrion and Jorah traveling together. That’s intentional. The only shots of Jorah in the trailer are from when he’s fighting in the arena, which happens later in the season. Those images have been presented relatively free of context. HBO wants to preserve the mystery of how Jorah gets there and who he gets there with (Tyrion’s presence at Daznak’s Pit has also been hidden in the trailer – deliberately so).

      Fear not, Jorah should have a lot of screentime this season! Again, his relative absence from the promotional material isn’t meant as an insult to Iain Glen, who Benioff and Weiss have a ton of respect for (as they should – he’s great). It’s a deliberate strategy to preserve the many surprises in his storyline this year.

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    63. Ghost’s Lunch:
      It’s intriguing to note that in the first pic of Sansa and LF (just below the Mel one) the hats and general theme of the men behind Sansa are in the mold of the helms, colours and beard style of the Winterfell Guards from season 1 and 2 etc, rather than the Vale style for example

      So a bit of a subconscious Stark easter egg in there…

      Thematically it is probably a nod to not only about her being a Stark but also they are implied soldiers behind her, and indicate the beginning of a slow re-ascension to power for the Starks after they’ve bottomed out

      Food for thought

      http://watchersonthewall.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/sansa-and-LF.jpg

      Forgot to add

      http://watchersonthewall.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/150312-ep41-sansa-littlefinger-1024.jpg

      Looking from the opposite angle, there is a well placed shield next to Yohn Royce and a figure in lightish blue in the background

      It’s the small thematically focused things that get put in which I like, keeps the show consistent with the cryptic nature of the books but shows they generally know what they are doing

      eg the 12 black figure behind NK with him being the “13th” being a shoutout to the 13th LC of the NW

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    64. Ghost’s Lunch,

      Still, he’d have to

      have some quality time with Sansa, Royce and Robyn, have a meet and greet with Brienne, forge a plan to destroy the Boltons within completely independently (as opposed to being sent by the crown to bolster the Bolton army against Stannis), go all the way to Winterfell and meet Team Bolton to settle some things before turning 180 degrees back and traveling all the way back to King’s Landing in the maximum of four episodes? That seems like overkill.

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    65. Luka Nieto,

      Yeah in the video of Vale troops entering you can just about make out LF and Sansa at the front

      There’s no Yohn Royce as there needs to be, but we’ve seen another image of Roose, Ramsay and Fat Walda officially greeting someone, the lack of scorn on Ramsays face in particular suggests it’s more than just Littlefinger and his niece, eg they would give respect to Yohn Royce and perhaps other Vale nobles

      I’m starting to think they start touring the Vale, Littlefinger gets word he’s needed in KL, perhaps he attends Tywins funeral, at which time he arranges with Cersei to have Loras locked up by the religious nuts as “revenge” for Marge marrying Tommen and from LF perspective a way to screw with the Tyrells

      Cersei and LF probably hear of hear of Stannis at the Wall, and instead of a wedding they are going up there to shore up Rooses position in the interests of a united Kingdom, so LF leaves to go to Winterfell and fetch Sansa along the way for the second half of the season

      If he’s travelling to and from KL via boat he can get there relatively quickly

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    66. Greenjones:
      Ghost’s Lunch,

      No, those are Vale guards. And it’s in 501 in the same scene with Yohn Royce.

      Yes they are, my point is that thematically the ones behind her have been subtly made to look a bit like Winterfell/Stark soldiers

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    67. I’m thinking it’s not all that clear Sansa (and LF) will remain in Winterfell till the end of the season. This could be a Craster’s Keep-like subplot to their season for all we know. Small strategic visit to Winterfell for 3 eps, then get back to the Vale.

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    68. Luka Nieto,

      I don’t think you can say that definitively. It’s a 2 second shot and we don’t see the end of it. Just because you can’t catch a glimpse of the from that POV, doesn’t mean they aren’t waiting for them as they enter the courtyard and we get a better shot of who’s there.

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    69. Luka Nieto:
      Ghost’s Lunch,

      In the trailer none of the Boltons are waiting for Sansa and Littlefinger. The picture of the Boltons receiving someone has to be something else.

      and that picture is from the first few episodes , which means that they won’t wait for Sansa and LF then…

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    70. King Tommen,

      We do see all the people. None of them are Ramsay, Roose or Walda (especially not her.) Also, in the Bolton promo picture they are surrounded by Bolton soldiers, not citizens or Lords and Ladies, which is the group that welcomes Littlefinger and Sansa in that shot. Unless there’s a whole different group of people waiting just out of sight, these are two separate events.

      I’m not saying the Boltons and Sansa won’t be there at the same time. Of course they will. But those are two different scenes, that’s all I’m saying.

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    71. I’ll try to break the LF movements down a little more clearly:

      501- He and Sansa are in the Vale with Yohn Royce at some kind of tournament (assumption that Robin’s involved) Confirmed.

      501 or 502- we have promo pics of Sansa inside her carriage. We also have trailer shots of LF and Sansa outside the carriage where she’s upset and he’d giving her the “revenge” speech somewhere in the Vale countryside. They are wearing the same clothes they had on in the Royce “tourney” pics.

      The leaked script doesn’t talk about this scene at all but does reference a scene with Brienne and Pod (possibly in E2) who are being chased by Vale knights sent by LF. The “leaker” says this indicates there is an earlier scene that is not in the script where Brienne runs into Sansa and this chase is the result. So this Brienne scene is either earlier in E2 or possibly in E1. We know the full E1 script was not in the leak because the Royce tourney scene is definitely in E1 and it’s not there. So there could be further Sansa scenes in E1 as well.

      In any case, the Brienne confrontation is either in E1 or early in E2.

      The trailer then has a shot of LF and Sansa arriving in WF with Vale guards (again, in the same gear they have on in E1). Every other shot of Sansa in Winterfell we have in the trailers (crypts, bathtub, random room) she is completely alone. Obviously they don’t want to completely telegraph Bolton interaction with Sansa in the trailer but if LF is there, why wouldn’t we see at least a shot of the two of them in Winterfell? That wouldn’t give anything away as everyone expects LF and Sansa to share scenes. Probably because he’s not there.

      We know that Aiden Gillen was caught on camera in Dubrovnik filming King’s Landing scenes. He is wearing a completely different outfit. I find it a little weird that he’d wear one thing in E1, ride to KL, change in to something else, then change back into his old clothes in order to have his “revenge” speech to Sansa in the middle of the Vale countryside, where she’s been riding around aimlessly while he runs errands in KL I guess.

      Most likely conclusion, he drops her off in WF relatively early in the season, goes to WF for a number of episodes and then maybe returns by the end or maybe doesn’t.

      Sansa interacts with the Boltons and Theon for the majority of the season which is the whole point of the storyline.

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    72. King Tommen,

      Actually LF is wearing that golden kinda-dress in those other pictures too. He’s just wearing that enormous black coat too. You can see the sleeves in some pictures.

      Still, I agree with your assessment.

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    73. King Tommen,

      It seems likely but I’m not sure that I like it.

      What is his plan then ?

      Will he return to WF?

      Why he must go to KL?

      That storyline doesen’t make much sense for me now. I fear that all this will be a fiasco with a bunch of plot holes.

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    74. King Tommen,

      Again, this is a pretty problematic timeline considering it all has to be done in 4 episodes (max). I think Littlefinger just takes off the coat for the warmer King’s Landing climate and puts it back on as he’s heading North.

      And Sansa doesn’t do nothing while he’s away- she has her thing with BriPod in his off period (which I assume will stretch between episodes 2 and 4). You also need to take into consideration that the leaker has a knowledge gap- the scene he describes is Brienne getting chased by Vsle guards, he doesn’t know for sure Littlefinger was even there to send them but he assumes he was. My guess is that Sansa/Royce send the guards, fearing that BriPod will blow her cover and report to the Lannisters.

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    75. Why would LF leave Sansa alone in Winterfell? What she needs to do?

      Is this change just a filler and she will, by the end of the season and before Stannis attacks WF, return to the Vale and her “real” plot from TWOW?

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    76. The problem is that we don’t know LF’s plan and until he tells Sansa on the show (during the “revenge” speech), it’s not going to be clear.

      I just don’t see the point of having him go to King’s Landing by himself if the plan all along was to go to Winterfell with Sansa. Just go to Winterfell if that’s the case. Why the errand run while Sansa is by herself in the Vale? There can’t be anything to be done face to face that couldn’t be written into him doing via raven/letter.

      And if the idea is to incorporate Sansa into Theon and Ramsay’s storyline, why do you have LF right there while it’s happening? I’m pretty sure they’ll be going their separate ways for a decent portion of the season.

      We’ve also got the High Sparrow not introduced until E3 and Gillen has also shared that he’s got scenes with Pryce (most likely because his brothels are getting shut down/raided). We also guess (although it’s not confirmed) that Olenna’s threat in the trailer sounds like it’s for LF and we know she’s not there at the start of the season either (absent from Marg/Tommen wedding).

      Pretty sure LF’s time in KL is mid to late season. Could he end up back up in WF to get Sansa for the climax? Sure, although that’s just pure guesswork.

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    77. King Tommen:
      The problem is that we don’t know LF’s plan and until he tells Sansa on the show (during the “revenge” speech), it’s not going to be clear.

      What if there is no plan , and the reason why they go to Winterfell is wedding (ramsey and farya?) and nothing more?

      And LF has to go to KL before the wedding because of sparrows, but leaves a delegation from the Vale for the wedding, and then they just go to the Vale again before Stannis come, and in the Vale Sansa and LF will meet again and continue their plot from TWOW?

      So literally the entire storyline is just a filler? The sole purpose of it will be few interesting scenes with Sansa and Theon/Ramsey/Roose and nothing more?

      There will be no alliances between Boltons and LF, I guess. And someone else will have to replace Manderly. Greatjon Umber?

      I was hoping that this would be change of chronology from the books and some kind of spiler from TWOW (in the books, LF and Sansa are going to WF after battle of ice, but here they would go before) but it seems that it is not.

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    78. James Rivers,

      The High Septon played by Paul Bentley will definitely be in the premiere. So will Jonathan Pryce though.

      Maybe I’m thinking of TristanSnow’s info rather than the summaries actually but the High Sparrow will appear briefly in 501. The concept of the Sparrows will be introduced then, through Cersei seeing them from her palanquin, to her speaking to the High Sparrow briefly to then her seeing Lancel at the funeral having joined them.

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    79. Blind Beth: Somehow in all the previous talk of them working together, I thought that meant politically and not literally fighting as a team. That will definitely be cool to see.

      When I picture it, I hear the Thenn theme.

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    80. King Tommen,

      That’s why I think LF goes to KL on another pretense, such as attending the wedding. The rest (confrontations with the High Sparrow, a meeting with Cersei and Tommen- but not Olenna, I don’t see how her talk in the trailer applies to him, he’s the Tyrells’ secret BFF).

      I understand that it seems to make sense to leave Sansa alone in Winterfell from a character standpoint, but it makes no sense from a plot standpoint for Littlefinger. For one, he’d be leaving her alone in the company of psychopaths and Theon who can reveal her identity- yes, Littlefinger clearly thinks Sansa is becoming a player, but does he trust her to handle such a complicated situation completely by herself? I doubt it.

      If Winterfell is a milestone in his big plan, he’ll want to be there to make sure everything runs smoothly and that Sansa won’t get herself killed (or worse, since we’re talking about Ramsay). I can’t see him abandoning Sansa there entirely, and I can’t see him returning near the end of the season either (the North will be too busy by that time).

      So I think they both arrive in the second half of the season and stay there throughout to work the Manderly angle. That’s not to say that the two will be together in every scene, though- Sansa will definitely have some quality time with Theon (I’m guessing that scene in the crypts is going to be the show’s version of the Dustin/Theon conversation).

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    81. jentario:
      Afeastfordances,

      The EW article also mentions that

      Theon gets a little bit of relief when Ramsay finds a new plaything to torture. It’s unbelievable that Sansa’s season 5 Winterfell arc is about her becoming Ramsay’s tortured plaything, and Myranda is not a “new” plaything.

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    82. Sansa looks so much like Cat. Is this Littlefinger’s doing? Is he helping her with her wardrobe choices? As one of the Unsullied, I want to know if Sansa is really on her way to becoming her own person; or if she’s escaped from one controlling “master” just to fall into the trap of another one.

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    83. @Annara Snow: Myranda may be a ‘new plaything’ in that Ramsay is finally turning his sight on her, as someone to be tortured (after Theon, and the blonde girl). The trailer seemed to show her in his arms, but with an unhappy facial expression which suggests his advances are no longer welcome.

      @Aerynsunx:

      There is evidence in the books that he’s trying to groom her to become attached/dependent on him, but is also training her to be more perceptive of his plans. Maybe he can’t help himself.

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