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Flashbacks and Volantis filming confirmed, and Game of Thrones heads to Osuna

Posted on by Sue the Fury

Benioff and WeissGame of Thrones news is pouring out of Spain these days, with cameras rolling at the Alcázar of Seville and sightings galore.

Additionally, at a special event at Teatro Central de Sevilla this week, David Benioff and D.B. Weiss spoke frankly on a number of topics, talking the woes of adapting the novels for the audience and confirming the presence of flashbacks.
Thanks to Los Siete Reinos for the program notes and translations.

The news and highlights include:

  • D&D confirmed that there will be flashbacks in season 5, despite their previous assertions that there would never be flashbacks on the show. This is line with leaked info from a few months ago, regarding the casting of characters such as Maggy the Frog and young Cersei.
  • As for favorite characters, they have a hard time choosing. They especially appreciate Maisie (Williams) and Sophie (Turner) and their characters, since they were cast very young. The producers also named Tyrion and Theon as characters they love.
  • D&D love Seville, the shooting locations and the local fans, and would love to return next year. It is quite expensive to film in that area but coming back next year is a possibility.
  • Nikolaj Coster-Waldau is the most curious about what’s going to happen in the future with his character-  but they don’t answer his questions. Peter Dinklage, on the other hand, has never asked them about Tyrion’s future.
  • There may be true spoilers from The Winds of Winter in season 5. The answer on the subject was unclear, but the vibe the attendees got from the producers was a strong maybe, leaning toward yes.
  • George R.R. Martin has never asked them to change the material; he is happy with the changes generally, particularly the Bronn-Sandor scene in “Blackwater.”

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In other Seville news, this photo of Jerome Flynn and Nikolaj Coster-Waldau turned up on Twitter. It looks like Bronn and Jaime have secured the Dornish guards’ costumes, and are up to no good. It seems like this may be how they sneak into the palace and find Myrcella, as this leak hints.

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As filming winds down in Seville, it kicks into gear in the town of Osuna, Spain, where cast members such as Emilia Clarke, Nathalie Emmanuel and Iain Glen are already being spotted.
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Director David Nutter is in Osuna now as well. He’s handling episodes 9 and 10, which gives us a clue as to the Osuna shooting’s significance.

Mayor Rosario Andujar confirms that Osuna shooting begins on October 16th and runs through the 30th. Several hundred extras from the area will participate in the filming, which will include the town’s well-known Plaza de Toros, believed to be standing in for Daznak’s Pit.

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137 Comments

  2. Doran has been spotted in costume. It’s on the comments on the last Season 5 news article. It seems more than newsworthy enough for this article.

    H. Stark,

    Wow. It’s great to have such a clear look on the costumes, but here’s something more interesting: you can see they are filming episode nine. This means Jaime will still be on Dorne by the climax of the season. So, if there was any doubt, it seems there won’t be a siege of Riverrun.

  3. LukaNieto,

    What about a flashback within a dream that also contains a prophecy? I feel like they’re splitting hairs on what they’re going to count as a “flashback,” but Cersei dreaming about Maggy the Frog as a cold open (likely with Cersei waking up just before the theme song) makes sense. So that’d technically only break the last 2/3.

  8. jaimereborn,

    Everyone’s known for months that Jaime will be on Dorne, so I don’t understand the constant shock. People should just get used to it, and criticize or praise the decision when it actually airs.

  9. Great interview with Benioff and Weiss, and awesome pictures, both in the main post and in the ones provided by H. Stark in the comments (thank you for linking to those, H. Stark)!. After a bit of a dry spell, we’ve gotten a ton of news in the past week or so. I love it!

    LukaNieto,

    Yeah, the pictures certainly seem to imply that Jaime will still be in Dorne in Episode 9 (although I suppose it’s not necessarily confirmed – they could have been filming scenes from multiple episodes on that day). If so, that’s a very interesting development.

    I never expected to see the siege of Riverrun this season once we got news that Jaime was going to Dorne. On a personal note, I won’t really miss it, as I view it as a mop-up campaign with intrinsically low stakes that wasn’t going to work on screen as it did on the page (and with the Blackfish already on the run and LS in limbo, the other major consequences of his campaign either have already happened or are in flux). However, my tentative predictions for the season’s outline did incorporate the theory that Jaime would leave Dorne around Episode 6 or 7 to return to King’s Landing (with or without Myrcella), have some kind of falling out with Cersei, and then leave the capital again, possibly to join up with Brienne. If he’s still in Dorne by Episode 9, then he clearly won’t be getting back to King’s Landing before Cersei’s Walk of Shame – which we know will be in Episode 9 or 10 (probably 10). That suggests that Dorne will in fact be a fairly major arc this season rather than just a quick trip to retrieve Myrcella followed by the reveal of Doran’s plans. It also opens up a whole new realm of possibilities as to where Jaime’s story could go.

  11. Jared,

    I had roughly the same idea, honestly.

    I didn’t picture Jaime leaving as soon as you did, but I though he would be back in King’s Landing or the Riverlands (it doesn’t really matter) by episode 9 or 10, in order to meet Brienne, thus resuming his book story exactly where we left it at the end of ADWD. Of course, that would assume they are doing Lady Stoneheart. If they aren’t, who knows. I still want him to meet Brienne again, even if it’s in other circumstances, just because… well, I really like them as a duo. And a couple… Yes, I ship them, okay?

  13. This bit of the D&D interview is really interesting… and odd.

    “Why have you made some changes to actors, like Daario or the Mountain? ”

    Benioff: ” We did not change Daario ” (sounded sharp, almost angry) “

  15. LukaNieto,

    I’d like to see Jaime and Brienne meet up again at some point on the show as well. And I believe that they well. But if it won’t be this season, then I’m fine with it. I trust the writers immensely at this point. (And there’s nothing wrong with shipping Jaime and Brienne! Nothing at all).

    Fedejru,

    Great find! Doran’s costume looks terrific – as have most of the Dornish costumes so far. Now the only ones that we’re missing are the Sand Snakes, and I expect that someone will get a photo of them sooner rather than later.

  16. LukaNieto,

    Not everyone. People, like you who obsess over every bit of news that leaks out, or that have visted and cared to venture into show spoiler territory with these similair posts, have known about it. Do not assume that everyone knows. There is no need to act righteous to those who dislike or question the change, they don’t need to see the end product to form an opinion of disapproval having some inclination of where his arc is headed in S5 from where it goes in the books.

  17. “It looks like Bronn and Jaime have secured the Dornish guards’ costumes, and are up to no good. It seems like this may be how they sneak into the palace and find Myrcella, as this leak hints.”

    What? The Lord Commander of the Kingsguard and his knight sneaking around like Abbott and Costello to steal the princess away? I just don't understand….

    I hope they turn a corner and come across Hotah with his glaive, and maybe a few snakes, waiting for them. Then, like Yara, they will scream and "Run away! Run away!"

    Other than that, this is great news……

  18. jaimereborn,

    I’m assuming he misunderstood the question or something and was saying they didn’t changed Daario’s personality between S3 and S4, but it’s really funny for some reason for me to imagine Michael Huisman suddenly coming on stage, then removing his face to reveal he’s actually Ed Skrein.

  19. This influx of photos and information is fantastic! However my biggest question is where are they hiding the Sansnakes?!?

  20. I really like the look they are going for with Doran! It’s the same sort of “robe” as Oberyn was wearing, but in a much more discreet color palette. Suits the character very well! Now, I’m just waiting for the first pictures of Sand Snakes in costumes…

  22. No signs of Bronn in this episode 9 scene, maybe he has gone the way of Arys? Jamie does look rather sad. Maybe Jamie will stick around and fill out the role of Balon Swann and go trekking with Areo and a snake to hunt someone down? I always imagined that the group meeting Darkstar would be an awesome showdown, having Jamie there would make it even better especially if its revealed to him that it was Areo that killed Bronn rather than who(darkstar or whoever) they tell him…..

    one can dream…

  23. Am I the only one surprised about including Volantis? I thought they would just skip it.

    Perhaps still some hope in meeting fAegon there?

  25. jaimereborn:
    This bit of the D&D interview is really interesting… and odd.

    “Why have you made some changes to actors, like Daario or the Mountain? ”

    Benioff: ” We did not change Daario ” (sounded sharp, almost angry) ”

    It looks like there is some bad blood btw Ed Skrein and D&D

  26. Mine is the Furry,

    I have to disagree here. Of curse people are free to say what ever they like here as long the mods are okay with it (and for the most part they are okay with pretty much everything.) So if someone dislikes or questions a change of curse they can say so, but I have to ask on what the dislike or questioning is based on when it comes to something as general as Jaimie going to Dorne. We know pretty much nothing about the actual arc that comes with it. It could turn out bad, average or good we just don’t know. Let’s just wait and see how it turns out. 😉

  27. Bastard of T-town,

    Would they really bother casting

    Lolys just to kill off Bronn in Dorne? I think not. Also there’s a book scene I would like to see in which Bronn names his son after Tyrion and Cersei loses her shit

  28. Abyss,

    I think people have the right to be concerned over Jaime staying in Dorne up until episode 9. Jaime is one of the more interesting characters in the show and him in Dorne for that long limits his opportunities to interact with other characters in Kings Landing and the rest of Westeros. It’s almost like Dany being stuck in Mereen.

  29. Abyss,

    But if it is more than simple speculation that J & B are raiding the castle like two goofs in a buddy comedy, we have every right to be gravely concerned. It went so well last time…. 🙂

  30. Turncloak,

    I don’t say they don’t, but again, what do we really know about Jaime’s arc in Dorne? The answer is not much and that’s putting it nicely. Maybe him staying in Dorne will be fun. Who knows? It might limit his interactions with other parts of the story, that’s true, but we know for years now that the show is/will be deferent from the books. I just it’s time to accept that.

  32. Turncloak,

    Lolys could just appear with Bronn in the first few episodes and then stay behind to get offered up to one of Qyburn’s experiments by Cersei, in place of her sister in the books.

    Jaime in Dorne in episode 9, wearing Dornish clothes and apparently welcome in Dornish court is a pretty major change from where I expected things to go. Maybe

    Doran actually agrees to send Myrcella off with Jaime, wanting to get rid of Myrcella since he needs to keep Trystane open for a Targaryen alliance, but before Jaime can take her and leave, the Sand Snakes take Myrcella to do the Queenmaker thing. Doran sends Areo to stop it, and then Jaime is in Sunspear for episode 9 when Areo returns with the Sand Snakes and Myrcella to deliver the bad news of what happened. But that seems like it would complicate any attempt to send the Snakes to King’s Landing in the future, since now you have a Lannister knowing that they participated in an attempted rebellion, and I don’t see where you get Jaime back to his book path from there.

  35. My annoyance with pointless field trips with Bronn aside, Nikolaj looks mighty fine in those Dornish duds.

  37. Afeastfordances,

    I think this particular problem with Jaime knowing too much could be solved with him taking over Balon Swann role. Bronn would take over Arys or Darkstar role after being seduced by Tyene. Jaime and Obara than would go after Bronn or Darkstar in season 6, which would allow Nymeria and Tyene to go on their KL missions.

  38. Abyss,

    Considering that I can’t even remember much of the Dorne plot from the books, I am looking forward to Jaime and Bronn spicing things up.

    Yes, people should wait and see it before making a decision, however if it is deemed acceptable to gloat ecstatically about every new bit of leaked info without using the same rationale of ‘wait until you see the end result’ then the argument against those who are concerned or not happy with the leaked info has zero weight.

  39. I too am slightly surprised that Jaime and Bronn will still be in Dorne at the end of the season, and like others would have thought he would meet up with Brienee. Although it probably can be predicted where Jaime’s Season 5 arc will finish (leaving Dorne unsuccesful). It does, however, leave questions over Brienne’s arc. In fact there has been very little filming information on Brienne and Pod, and I think it is one of the hardest storylines to predict, because they seemingly could do anything with it. I guess the only predictable ending for Brienne and Pod is

    Lady Stoneheart

    , but even that seems unlikely at this time.

    Also, the D&D interview was interesting, and it does answer a few questions that we hadn’t been told the answers to before, so very nice to have.

  40. jaimereborn:
    This bit of the D&D interview is really interesting… and odd.

    “Why have you made some changes to actors, like Daario or the Mountain? ”

    Benioff: ” We did not change Daario ” (sounded sharp, almost angry) ”

    This could be a suggestion that they did not choose to change the actor portraying Daario; Ed Skrein chose to abandon GoT.

  41. Jared: Yeah, the pictures certainly seem to imply that Jaime will still be in Dorne in Episode 9 (although I suppose it’s not necessarily confirmed – they could have been filming scenes from multiple episodes on that day). If so, that’s a very interesting development.

    How do you deduce this? He’s in Seville, filming, where they’re filming many many scenes. Nutter is in Osuna. It actually isn’t clear that this is the case at all. (Though I still imagine Riverrun is out of the picture.)

  42. H. Stark,

    Actual shot from the episode at 0:21! So much news today, man. And the set just looks spectacular. This also confirms Trystane will NOT take over Quentyn’s role at the end of the scene.

    Purely speculating of course, but I think the subject of this discussion might be Doran finally agreeing to send Myrcella (and Trystane) back to KL (thus explaining Jaime’s lengthy visit), similar to the final Dornish chapter in ADWD. I suppose the plotting with the Sand Snakes will then be in episode 10, revealing his true intentions.

  45. Turncloak:
    Abyss,

    I think people have the right to be concerned over Jaime staying in Dorne up until episode 9. Jaime is one of the more interesting characters in the show and him in Dorne for that long limits his opportunities to interact with other characters in Kings Landing and the rest of Westeros. It’s almost like Dany being stuck in Mereen.

    I don’t understand the negativity towards Dorne, much less so the assertion that Jaime’s interactions with these new Dornish characters are somehow inherently less interesting than a continued interaction with other established characters in Westeros. I actually find the thought of Jaime being thrown into the metaphorical snake pit more exciting than if the TV show was to try and struggle to portray the rather action-less, introspective chapters Jaime has in AFFC.

  47. Greatjon of Slumber,

    I think it is quite clear this is from episode 9. Also, looks like D&D are stepping in for Nutter for (at least) this scene. Seems they want to be present for the entire Dorne shoot.

  50. Wow! These costumes are fantastic! I love that we have official, professional, close up views (thanks canal+ spain!)- I agree Jaime does look amazing in the Dornish costume. I am really surprised by the Episode 09 news like many- great catch, I didn’t even see it on the plate initially. So many possibilities, my head is spinning!!!

  51. Dutch maester:
    Greatjon of Slumber,

    I think it is quite clear this is from episode 9. Also, looks like D&D are stepping in for Nutter for (at least) this scene. Seems they want to be present for the entire Dorne shoot.

    I just watched that video, and yes, now I get it. Other than Aunt Gemma, there’s not much I’ll miss out of ADwD from Jaime. Interesting development. Looking forward to seeing how it turns out, and also makes me more intrigued as to just what the hell happens with Brienne this year.

  52. Afeastfordances:

    Lolys could just appear with Bronn in the first few episodes and then stay behind to get offered up to one of Qyburn’s experiments by Cersei, in place of her sister in the books.

    Why are so many people fixated on this idea? There’s absolutely no basis for that in the show (compared to the books), and given the writers constant mitigation of Cersei’s behaviour, what makes anyone think they’re going to have her

    murder a mentally disabled woman for kicks.

  54. Sean C.,

    I’d think this plot may remain the same. Bronn suggested an accident, he’s now clearly owned by Cersei, so Falyse may meet the same fate.

    And I’m just gonna say it again: Indira Varma is stunningly beautiful.

  56. Turncloak:
    Well because they are clearly keeping Ser Robert Strong. And Cersei is a terrible human being lest you forget.

    The former doesn’t in any way require that

    Bronn’s wife be killed. Cersei in the show is sending Bronn on a super-important mission for her; the whole rivalry bit is highly unlikely to be adapted. And whether Cersei is a “terrible human being”, the writers have a pretty strong preference for minimizing her villainous behaviour; they are not going to have her murder a mentally-disabled woman.

  58. I wonder if Maggy will be the only flashback in season 5. I hope they have something else as well, for Bran.

  59. GaiusB,

    True, that would solve the issue of Jaime having too much knowledge, but it would exacerbate the problem of getting him back to his book plot, unless the chase somehow takes them far enough north that they would run into Brienne. Alternatively, maybe the future Riverlands stuff would somehow be restructured to be Brienne only.

  60. H. Stark,

    Wow! Fantastic! Pity we can’t hear any dialogue, but the Alcazar looks amazing, especially with the proper props and costumes. It’s relevant to note that the scene being filmed is from episode 9 and Myrcella, Trystane and Jaime are still in Dorne, so the plot can’t possible go as far as some people thought, including myself (as it relates to Jaime, anyway.)

    Obviously Jaime’s presence changes some things necessarily, but I hope the climax is similar to the books: in the last Dornish chapter of ADWD, the Sand Snakes learn Doran’s true intentions and, along with Myrcella and Trystane, sends Nym and Tyene to King’s Landing, the former to be the new Dornish adviser at the Small Council and the latter to cozy up with the High Sparrow and the newly empowered and re-militarized Faith. If done right, it would be a great climax to this storyline, especially with Jaime involved.

  61. Sean C.,

    Other than blaming bastard killing on Joffrey, what have the writers done to minimize Cersei’s villainous behavior? She was a villain in season 4 as she tried her best to have Tyrion head mounted on a spike. She will be much worse in season 5 once she orders a huge bounty for Tyrion leaving a mass of dead innocent dwarves at her feat which won’t even phase her

  62. Greatjon of Slumber: How do you deduce this? He’s in Seville, filming, where they’re filming many many scenes. Nutter is in Osuna. It actually isn’t clear that this is the case at all. (Though I still imagine Riverrun is out of the picture.)

    https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.735901599797815.1073741910.156066994447948&type=3&uploaded=7

    http://seriesporelmundo.mizonatv.com/primeras-imagenes-del-rodaje-de-juego-de-tronos-en-sevilla/

    My speculation that Jaime might still be in Dorne in Episode 9 was derived from that linked set of Facebook photos from H. Stark, one of which shows the slate marked for a scene from Episode 9. All of the other photos in that set (featuring Nikolaj Coster-Waldau, Indira Varma, and DeObia Oparei) appear to be on the same set, suggesting that they’re all in the scene together. That’s supported by the video that H. Stark also linked to where another slate (22B this time) from 5×09 appears. Jaime, Ellaria, and Areo Hotah are all visible, along with Alexander Siddig’s Doran. If that slate was for a separate scene, I’m not sure why it would be included in that video and that particular set of photos.

    It would be nice someone could spot David Nutter in a photo or the aforementioned video of that scene. As you note, David Nutter recently being sighted in Osuna would seem to be evidence against him directing a scene in Seville. Then again, I just typed Seville and Osuna into a cheap Internet distance calculator, and apparently they’re only about 50 miles apart. Assuming that’s right, that relatively small distance hardly seems prohibitive to Nutter shooting scenes in both cities around the same time. I’ve never been to Spain, so I have no knowledge of how difficult it is to get from one place to another quickly. I’d welcome the knowledge of someone who has actual experience with the area.

  63. aurane waters:
    We have no clue whether Lollys is mentally disabled on the show though.

    Tyrion referred to her as “dim-witted”. And it remains the case that there’s not going to be a Cersei/Bronn rivalry, since he’s going to be in Dorne on a mission for her all season.

    Turncloak:
    She will be much worse in season 5 once she orders a huge bounty for Tyrion leaving a mass of dead innocent dwarves at her feat which won’t even phase her

    I’d be stunned if that was in the show.

  64. Lollius Palicanus,

    There is an importance to Volantis that many here have forgotten, and that is show Talisa’s father is a Volantis Lord, perhaps even a Prince of the city. Could her family make an appearance in the Volantis episodes.

    More importantly though is Siddig’s costume for Prince Doran, the costume department has outdone itself again with not only his, but NCW’s and Oparei’s outfits too, NCW looks great as a Dornish Lord doesn’t he and Ms Varma is breathtaking. I can see another Emmy win for Clapton, Wichary, Fordham and Ayres. Dorne is going to rock.
    Perhaps Jaime will travel back to KL as a member of Nym and Tyene’s entourage.

    I want a pic of Ms Castle-Hughes, Laurenti-Sellers and Henwich in their Sand Snakes costumes, please!

  65. These pictures areall just amazing. And it looks like Ellaria will indeed be sporting a shorter haircut next season, I see no apparent reason for them to do that when they probably had the wig/extensions from last season but Indira still looks as stunning as always so no big deal. Looking at the pictures, that woman behind indira looked like Rosabell to me, but watching the video you can see it’s just an extra. Oh, and I have to say th Alcazár is SO FREAKING BEAUTIFUL. Like, look at those walls and ceilings! Now all we need are some good sandsnakes pics in costume. (And northern lords casting, gimme manderly!)

  66. Sean C.,

    hmm I see, I’m just wondering why they would bother to cast Lollys in the first place you know? At first, I thought they were going to keep the Cersei assassinates Bronn plot but Bronn going to Dorne means that the plot is obviously not happening.

  67. H. Stark,

    That video is a great find. Seems clear that after initially getting off on the wrong foot, Jaime comes to an understanding with Doran.

    I know it frustrates some people, but I find reading the show’s tea leaves for insight into the remaining books a fascinating pastime. Jaime apparently remaining in Dorne for most of the season has a number of implications.

  68. jentario:
    I wonder if Maggy will be the only flashback in season 5. I hope they have something else as well, for Bran.

    in an one of his interviews Isaac Hempstead Wright talks about a scene he filmed with Sean Bean in season 1 that they never used. That could potentially be used as a flash back in season 5. Wish I had a link of the interview

  69. aurane waters:
    hmm I see, I’m just wondering why they would bother to cast Lollys in the first place you know?

    It’s most likely a bit part this season, much like Fat Walda last year, but Bronn’s newly-ennobled status is likely going to be an important part of his role in future novels (which is another reason why it’s illogical to get rid of her).

  70. Sean C.,

    Why would you be stunned if that were in the show? D&D have no problem showing the dark side of their characters(other than Tyrion). Even the seemingly redeemed Jaime took part in a heinous act in Season 4

  71. If these are official pictures then I doubt then I think they’re playing games. Just because a picture of a clapper board with episode 9 on is posted with other pictures of characters doesn’t necessarily mean that those characters are going to be in episode 9 or in Dorne in episode 9. May just be that they have put together a group of photos from the Spanish filming. Also, what’s to say they’re not filming scenes from different episodes on the same day? Makes sense to use the same location as much as you can in the time you have it.
    If Jaime is in Dorne in episode 9 then I have no idea what they are thinking.

    It doesn’t work with his and Cersei parting ways and him realising how she’s using him and throwing away her begging letter for him to be her champion.

    The Season 5 jitters continue!

  72. aurane waters,

    Why did they bother casting Fat Walda? I’m guessing she’s a small cameo in the scene where Jaime asks Bronn to come with him to Dorne, and that’s it

  73. Turncloak:
    Even the seemingly redeemed Jaime took part in a heinous act in Season 4

    By accident, not intent.

    TheTouchOfFrost:
    If these are official pictures then I doubt then I think they’re playing games.

    When has the show ever done something like that?

  76. Genna:
    Has anyone come up with a reason for Jaime and Bronn to be “sneaking” into Dorne on the first place?

    To save the princess. And Tyrion will disable the tractor beam.

  81. Sean C.,

    Well I disagree I think Cersei’s villanous actions will reach a climax once she is forced to do the walk of shame. From then on she will be a different person. Once evil is done to her she will have to realize the error of her ways to reach some sort of catharsis to her story. That or she may continue spiraling out of control culminating in her turning into the next mad King

  82. Hoyti_Von_Totiy:
    Where are the battles?

    I hope they dont think that “walk of shame” will do for a highlight of the season.

    D&D have started on a dark path of GRRM style fillering.

    Unfortunately, GRRM’s last 2 books are woefully thin on physical conflict so the show can only do so much to insert action into this season when the source material doesn’t provide it.

    Luckily for you, there have already been reports that in November, a large battle will be filmed. It was originally scheduled for Iceland but the scope of it grew too large for them to film it in that type of climate so it’s been moved to Northern Ireland. It stands to reason that the battle occurs in the North and I’d put heavy, heavy money on the Battle of Winterfell being a part of the climax to this season.

  83. Doran is looking amaaaaaaazing, though I always pictured the character with white hair. Guess this version might be younger. I’m sure he’s gonna look spot on when they roll him out in his wheelchair.

    And that’s about all I can say I’m excited for.
    Certainly not them spoiling stuff from the sixth book. But that was to be expected, tbh.

    Volantis will most likely only be in about one episode, used to bring together Tyrion and Jorah. Don’t expect stuff like Aegon or Quentyn at this stage o’ the game.

  84. Sean C.,

    When has the show sprung as many leaks as this?

    Greenjones,

    Can’t find the video through the link. Just photos.

    I’m not sure how Jaime /Obara going after whoever kills/de-ears Myrcella is going to work as there’s no one who fits the bill! If Tyene or Nymeria does it then it changes their characters and means they’re not abale to position themselves for Doran in King’s Landing. Bronn has no reason to (if he gets seduced then it would be stupid as it’s not his character). Only other option is Ellaria but again I see no reason at all for her to do it. Jaime needs to distance himself from Cersei and discover the truth about her. He can’t do that whilst he’s faffing about in Dorne…unless Varys magically appears to tell him what Cersei has been up to but Jaime would want it from te horses mouth. Plus the viewer wants a face to face between the two and I personally would feel cheated if we didn’t get it. Dorne is turning into an even bigger mess than I worried it would.

  85. TheTouchOfFrost,

    I hope you do realise that:
    1. Spending an entire season in Dorne is equal to spending an entire book in the Riverlands, so there’s no change or whatever you’re suggesting. The fallout between Jaime and Cersei occurs early in AFFC, so it can occur early in S5 as well.
    2. It’s strange to say something is “a bigger mess” when the show inserts two main characters into an entirely new storyline that consists of entirely new characters, which will likely make the storyline more relateable, comprehensible and significant to the overall story, if anything.

  86. That Alcazar set might be the most beautiful location of the entire series. Absolutely stunning :O

    So many news !!! GoT is very popular in Spain so I’m not surprised (even more in France)

  87. By the way, does D&D’s confirmation of flashbacks prove that at least some of the leaked script summaries we received back in August are, indeed, accurate? So far, most of what we’ve had confirmed match up with what the leaks, Patchface, and TristanSnow have told us, right?

  88. H. Stark,

    Great finds! Alexander Siddig looks absolutely marvelous as Doran. And unless I’m mistaken, there’s a brief glimpse of Jessica Henwick as Nymeria Sand in the first video, at about the 12 second mark.

    Don’t know if this has been mentioned elsewhere, but here’s a fun bit of trivia: James Costos, the US Ambassador to Spain seen in the article, used to work for HBO as a Vice President of Global Licensing and Retail. According to his Wiki page, “he was responsible for leading HBO’s newly created global licensing, retail, and marketing division which he established to further expand HBO’s domestic and international interests.” Spain really was meant to be for Thrones!

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Costos

  89. Mine is the Furry,

    I get your point, but this is a fan site, so a positive attitude is to be expected. – And it’s not like this positive attitude is baseless. I think most people here would agree that the show is pretty good so far. 🙂

  90. Greatjon of Slumber,

    I will take the opposite stance and state that I will miss much of ADwD that isn’t being adapted. Too bad, so sad for me. But you did bring up a decent point: Brienne.

    We don’t know the outcome of B & J meeting LS. If they don’t do Riverrun in the show, then that may indicate that things don’t go so well for B, and also may indicate that J survives to do more work for the realm upon C’s misguided direction (or he independently hears of mischief going on in Dorne)….Hence, D&D are moving things to Dorne for Jaime & Bronn, skipping Riverrun entirely. They probably decided that BF is the only one who matters there anyway…and he can show up anywhere on the show at this point (which will be another huge spoiler). My guess is the Vale.

    This is going to take time to wrap my head around. Good ideas are being floated around by the community though.

  91. Kyle,

    No, IIRC the Stannis-facebook leak suggest that Jaime leaves Dorne without Myrcella, this seems to prove that Jaime will last in Dorne at least till 5×09.

    Patchface states that his sources inform him that there will be no Volantis in TV series.

    TrystanSnow maybe got some legit info, but then he started to rave, confirming both Greyjoy’s uncles and the Griffs (with no sense).

  92. Kyle,

    Nothing Patchface or Tristan said so far has been invalidated, but the script leak from a while back claimed that Varys and Tyrion go directly to Volantis, which isn’t true if the leaks about filming at Illyrio’s manse are true. And the earlier leak about the Jaime plot is invalidated by this stuff today, since Jaime is still there in episode 9, and the leak claimed he would leave in time to meet again with Cersei before her downfall.

  94. Doran Martell just sitting on a couch talking to Jaime? Does this mean they’ll just ignore the gout? If they will it doesn’t make any sense beacause it was refered by Tywin in the purple wedding episode

  97. Thanks for the info, guys. I suppose it’s natural that some information they receive is incorrect, and some correct.

  99. Abyss,

    These are fantastic! Thank you!

    Yep, in the second, Camera I, it looks like Jessica Henwick. If not, it’s someone Dornish worthy of screen time.

    In the seventh, Doran Martell, there’s what looks to be a wooden wheelchair, quite ornate. Perhaps he’s just been wheeled in and sat for the chat. It certainly suggests they’re keeping the gout in.

  100. Anyone else intrigued by the use of the name Nymeria?

    1) Nymeria is the original Valyrian female leader who exiled herself from Valyria, sailed to Westeros and integrated with the Dornish host (Martells specifically). She is quite possibly the sole reason for the difference in “right of rule” within Dorne.

    2) Arya named her direwolf Nymeria to recognize the original warrior queen. Arya sets Nymeria free to avoid the same fate as Sansa’s Lady. We assume Nymeria rules the wolves of the riverlands now.

    3) Nymeria is still a constant source of inspiration (and warging insight) for Arya and her many faceless incarnations.

    4) The sand snake, Nymeria, wants tremendous revenge for RV’s slaughter (and Elia as well). She is on her way to KL to integrate and do some damage. Go Nym!

    I am assuming the show is faithfully using Nymeria as a sand snake name as well as the direwolf name. Regardless of the Jaime-Bronn escapades, I am looking forward to Nymeria’s symbolic role in the coming season and books.

    What’s in a name? I think Nymeria will make quite a difference. 🙂

  102. Abyss,

    Those are great! Thank you for taking the time to create them!

    The woman in the “Camera 1” GIF does resemble Jessica Henwick, but I can’t discern if it’s actually her. More interesting to me is that in the “Camera 2” and “Crew 2” GIFs, you can see that Toby Sebastian and Nell Tiger Free appear to be in this scene as well. At least as far as I can tell …

    Myrcella does not seem to be injured or disfigured in any way.

  105. Abyss,

    Love the Dornish robes and the flip flops on Siddig

    Jared,

    Thanks for your thoughts on Jaime’s arc.

    I, too, am surprised that he will be in Dorne until E9: not because he will then not be going to Riverrun but because the events in Dorne would then appear to be fairly important this season. Maybe his storyline ventures into TWOW territory.

    I am perfectly happy to lots of Jaime in the Dornish duds.

  106. Hodor’s Bastard,

    I’ve been fascinated with Nymeria ever since Arya explained why she chose that name for her direwolf, as my SN will attest. 🙂

    Dorne continues to look a-m-a-z-i-n-g. I’m so happy to finally see Siddig in costume. It was particularly interesting to me to notice the color palate in his costume and how it compliments what we saw Myrcella wearing, at least to my eye.

  107. Jared:

    The woman in the “Camera 1″ GIF does resemble Jessica Henwick, but I can’t discern if it’s actually her. More interesting to me is that in the “Camera 2″ and “Crew 2″ GIFs, you can see that Toby Sebastian and Nell Tiger Free appear to be in this scene as well. At least as far as I can tell …

    Myrcella does not seem to be injured or disfigured in any way.
    If this scene is part of episode 9, perhaps she’ll be attacked later in the episode. The injury or disfigurement (or death) could be part of the finale.

  108. H. Stark,

    Thanks for posting the link to those two videos. The second one intrigues me when (to paraphrase) Dan mentions they looked at Spain several years earlier, but the expense of shooting there was prohibitive, but because of the show’s popularity now (money its pulling in for HBO) the show can now film in Spain.
    So I guess they considered Spain for Essos too, I am glad they waited till now, this way we have a distinctive look for both Essos (Croatia) and Dorne (Spain).

  109. H. Stark,

    God dammit! How is this more high-res than my source? I took it directly from the site… – Well, I’m certainly not doing it all again. 😀

  110. Isabelle,

    That woman is in the exact same spot as indira varma and in the exact same position, and her clothing looks modern. I don’t understand much about how filming works but I think she is just there for the directors to adjust the focus on the camera for when indira is on the scene, so she would be, in my opinion, just a crew member.

  111. Dutch maester,

    Jaime spends a decent amount of time in KL though which causes him and Cersei’s problems to become apparent. Going on from where they finished last season and how early Jaime and Bronn get to Dorne where is the time for the cracks in their relationship and overall parting of ways to occur? Will have to be rushed through in the first episode and Cersei will have to order him to go and get Myrcella. What can happen to Jaime that is significant enough for him to completely abandon her whilst he is in Dorne on a mission for her? It just doens’t work. Unless they do their falling out later but that would make no sense as Jaime would rush back to KL for Cersei if he knew she was in trouble. Beginning to see why they changed the Jaime/Tyrion parting at least. Why is there any need to change this storyline? It worked absolutely fine they way it was.

    For the most part, whenever D&D have changed something too far away from the source material (as is true in pretty much every TV show adaption of a book) it has been a weak link in the show. Not just for book readers but Unsullied too. I’m fine with sensible changes but this is messing with core characters far too much for my liking.

    Having seen the video now (cheers H.Stark!), I’m still not convinced that it can be used as concrete evidene. It’s a clapper board on it’s own. Again, it could have quite easily been used for another scene later in the series set in the location they’re filming scenes for an earlier episode in. Also seems very slack of a channel that officially shows the show to drop such a clanger. We shall see but I don’t think people should read too much into it at this point.

  115. RandomSand:

    That woman is in the exact same spot as indira varma and in the exact same position, and her clothing looks modern. I don’t understand much about how filming works but I think she is just there for the directors to adjust the focus on the camera for when indira is on the scene, so she would be, in my opinion, just a crew member.

    Good observations–definitely a possibility!

    Obviously, the proper thing to do would be for HBO to release some images of the Sand Snakes, just to put the matter to rest. It’s only polite 😀

  116. does anyone think that Jaime might go to dorne later in the books?

    Very likely IMHO that that’s the TWOW spoiler. In ADWD Jaime thinks about how he will have to go to Dorne and tell Doran Martell that Myrcella is his daughter and how much “fun” this is going to be. The biggest thing about that spoiler would be that Jaime lives long enough to actually do this.

  117. TheTouchOfFrost,

    “Going on from where they finished last season and how early Jaime and Bronn get to Dorne where is the time for the cracks in their relationship and overall parting of ways to occur?”

    I feel like we’ve already seen the beginnings of that in season 4. Just a few more scenes should be enough.
    Maybe two scenes between the two of them, and a scene between Jaime and Lancel.
    I think they have time.

    (I’m also hoping for a scene between Jaime and Kevan, with the latter taking Genna’s place… but that’s wishful thinking).

  118. Big Mac,

    Only way I can see it working is if Lancel admits it to Jaime in the first episode (perhaps at Tywins funeral). But then I have trouble believing he’d go on a mission for her to Dorne after finding that out. Also think he needs to be there to witness her attitude towards him (and also her power crazy/controlling descent) in person.
    I would’ve preferred Genna as found her a lot more interesting character than Kevan but I guess Kevan is needed for other storylines ( still won’t be too fussed if he gets cut though). It’s going to be very tight timewise so I worry it’s going to be rushed.

  120. Kyle,
    Patchface has been proven right in earlier seasons but it seems TristanSnow was a fake. He knew a bit about the Walk and the rest were made up. He started giving only vague hints and in the end something he said was already proven wrong so you can discount basically everything he said.

  121. If they are giving flashbacks this late, they should have gave them since the very episode 1.
    Robert’s Rebellion
    Tower of Joy
    The sack of King’s Landing

    Etc

  122. Kyle,

    Actually, no. It confirms that Jaime “leak” is a fake. That leak said Jaime returns to King’s Landing before Cersei gets imprisoned, fights with her and leaves off to the Riverlands. Now that we know Jaime is staying in Dorne till at least episode 9, there is just no way he manages to do all of that, and it definitely won’t be before Cersei gets it.

    On TristanSnow, parts of his post were confirmed, but there were a number of inconsistencies as well.

    Patchface had one real scoop, and it’s possible he guessed it. The info he gave was that they might do something, and WOTW confirmed it was an option, but in the end they didn’t do that. The rest of his scoops are either unconfirmed or obvious (such as Mercy being included, and he supplied that info after Lannister guards were being cast for Braavos). All his leaks tend to be “I know the Manderlys are in BUT they could just be soldier extras in the background of some shot”. Basically, he never said anything substantial that he can’t undo. The things that were substantial will stay unconfirmed till season 5.

    Generally, people who talk as if they know everything that will happen are fakes. If someone glimpsed a scene or two during filming, there’s room for doubt.

  124. Khamûl,

    Entertainment Weekly announced that the only thing being confirmed is that there will be a single flashback as the opening scene of the season. So it will probably be what people were already guessing: a cold open (a scene pre-credits) in which Cersei dreams about Maggy the Frog, just before being woken up to be told about Tywin’s fate. It’s not like the show’s going to suddenly start having flashbacks as a standard part of the episodic structure.

    Still, yes. Other seasons could’ve started with flashbacks relevant to some part of the story. As much as I love aGoT’s prologue as Season 1’s cold open, maybe it’d been better to show the conclusion of Robert’s rebellion in some way. With season 4, while I utterly love the symbolism behind Tywin melting Ned’s Ice into two Lannister swords, it’d have been great to see the Sack of King’s Landing, particularly the Mountain killing Elia, considering it’s so important to Oberyn, and therefore Season 4’s King’s Landing story arc and Season 5’s Dorne plot. But… I can see why they didn’t do any of this, too.

  126. Afeastfordances,

    Jamie could leave Dorne without Myrcella, meet up with Cersei in KL, have some sort of fallout over his fail, then return to Dorne well before ep 509. Travelling by ship is much faster and we could see him make a round trip within 3 episodes

  127. Darjan,

    That seems counterproductive. Why make him leave Dorne only to come back? What could Jaime possibly do in Dorne in the future seasons (it’s definitely not in the books)?

    It’s much easier to have their fallout be a bit more subtle rather than an open fight, and make it happen early in the season. That’s what happened in the book- Jaime realized Cersei was cheering on him, and stopped loving her. Then it all climaxes when she comes crawling to him for help and he burns the letter. The same can happen in the show, with Dorne substituting Riverrun.

  128. zambi76: Very likely IMHO that that’s the TWOW spoiler. In ADWD Jaime thinks about how he will have to go to Dorne and tell Doran Martell that Myrcella is his daughter and how much “fun” this is going to be. The biggest thing about that spoiler would be that Jaime lives long enough to actually do this.

    Extraordinarily unlikely that that’s the case. There’s no reason for Jaime to go to Dorne in the books.

  129. I’m just thinking out loud here, but I wonder if Jamie could get any information about Cersei’s various escapades from Bronn?

  130. LukaNieto:
    jaimereborn,

    Everyone’s known for months that Jaime will be on Dorne, so I don’t understand the constant shock. People should just get used to it, and criticize or praise the decision when it actually airs.

    Why are people not allowed to criticize the decision before it airs? We have heard enough bits and pieces about the storyline to understand what is going on and compare it to the books story. Frankly, I don’t like what they are doing with his story, Dornes story and Tyrions story. It seems pretty clear they have cut Young Griff, which I thought was a very interesting sub plot, especially if Aegon is truly alive. I also thought that Jaimes interactions at Riverrun and Raventree Hall were interesting storylines.

    It’s also clear they are cutting the iron islands, which is all disappointing and going to make the show less interesting to me, a book reader.

  132. Sean C.,

    Really? There’s no basis for that conclusion. There are still two book to adapt, so there may be a reason. Perhaps Jamie goes to Dorne in WoW. No one knows but D&D and GRRM. They are seriously contracting storylines now in an effort to get to the endgame by S7, so I’m expect many spoilers for WoW this season, not just a few.

    As for Cersei and Jamie having their falling out, a couple of early scenes should do the trick. Viewers already want Jamie to continue his redemption by dumping her completely. It doesn’t need the elaborate stuff that was in the books.

    Thanks for posting these pics, WotW gang! The Alcazar is breathtaking! So perfect for my beautiful Dorne!

  134. Sean C.,

    I think Myrcella’s presence at Dorne is enoigh of a reason, and as the poster noted, he has thought about the prospect of going there. So I’m not sure you can say he has no reason to go there if his daughter’s there.

  135. Khamûl:
    If they are giving flashbacks this late, they should have gave them since the very episode 1.
    Robert’s Rebellion
    Tower of Joy
    The sack of King’s Landing

    Etc

    Flashbacks in Season 1 would have just confused viewers. It would have been too much information, especially since the show needed to establish and introduce the main characters, not to mention all the main storylines. Many viewers at the beginning of the show hadn’t read the books, so they wouldn’t know what all the flashbacks would be about. Why would they care about the TOJ, the rebellion, the sack of KL when they don’t even know who Ned Stark and Robert Baratheon are? Audiences had to figure out the main characters first and get invested in them. Now that we are familiar with them, the backstories are more interesting because they provide detail.

    Besides, flashbacks = more budget money, and Season 1 didn’t have much of a big budget anyway.

  136. Hodor Targaryen:
    I think Myrcella’s presence at Dorne is enoigh of a reason, and as the poster noted, he has thought about the prospect of going there. So I’m not sure you can say he has no reason to go there if his daughter’s there.

    Myrcella is returning to King’s Landing with Lady Nym and co., so she won’t be in Dorne anymore.

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