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Ellie Kendrick on the popular Meera-Jon theory and Tom Wlaschiha talks Jaqen

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Digital Spy recently spoke with Ellie Kendrick, who we now know is set to return as Meera Reed in Game of Thrones season 6. During the interview, Ellie was aked about her own thoughts on the theory that Meera and Jon Snow are curly-haired siblings:

I genuinely don’t have any idea as we don’t get told anything! But, I don’t know. I think people might just be thinking that because we’ve both got curly hair. In the books, our characters are described quite differently.

Continuing, she seemed skeptical that such a twist would hold up in the intricate narrative that George R.R. Martin has woven.

Hey, I’d love it to be true because it would mean great things for my character, but I’m holding back on speculation for now. I think what’s been going on in George RR Martin’s brain is so much more a complex wormhole than we could possibly imagine. I think there’s definitely a mystery to Meera and Jojen and their parentage, but I think it’ll unwind itself eventually.

I can only dream. To be honest, I don’t think Meera would be all that good on the Iron Throne! She’s a little bit of a socialist at heart, I don’t think she’ll be able to rule with the iron fist that the throne requires.

When April 24th rolls around, I suppose we may find out whether or not this outlandish theory holds any truth, and if Ellie’s hair had anything to do with her casting.

Tom Wlaschiha also recently spoke with taz.de about the show. While he revealed nothing specific about the upcoming season, he did have the following to say about his approach to playing Jaqen H’ghar (apologies for the rough Google translation/paraphrasing):

Personally, I think you may not be smarter than the writer as an actor. You play what is written for you – no more and no less. The overall picture of the character grows in the viewer’s mind – Jaqen H’ghar’s especially due to his enigmatic nature. On the one hand he is a ruthless killer, and on the other he’s a likeable figure. It’s fun to play someone so ambivalent. The background of the character, for me, is not important at all. I leave the hardcore fans on the Internet to develop their own theories.

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  5. No. These are the tinfoil theories people come up with because there is too much time between books. It rubbish I say

  8. I was especially intrigued by this quote “I think there’s definitely a mystery to Meera and Jojen and their parentage, but I think it’ll unwind itself eventually.”

    Beyond wanting to see Howland Reed, I want to find out exactly what impact the crannogmen will have on the wars to come. I’d think their connection with the CotF and their oaths to the Starks, made long, long ago, have to come into play at some point. They seem, at least in my mind, to have some connection to what’s happening north of the Wall. I don’t think it coincidence, nor necessarily just tied in with Ned and Howland’s past that Jojen and Meera are the ones to lead Bran to BR.

  10. Nymeria Warrior Queen:
    I was especially intrigued by this quote “I think there’s definitely a mystery to Meera and Jojen and their parentage, but I think it’ll unwind itself eventually.”

    Totally agree.

    I’m trying to remember from the books – we obviously know Howland Reed is their father, but is it mentioned who he married/who their mother is? (aside from the Jon/Meera twin theory, that is, which by the way I think is rubbish).

  11. I love Ellie’s interviews. She seems so smart and intelligent.

    Nymeria Warrior Queen,

    Me too. Meera and Jojen look so different from each other on the show, and I think the casting was not just a coincidence. I feel that their mother was not a simple crannogwoman.

  12. Could the creator of the theory please explain how come the offspring of a Stark and a Targaryen looks like a crannogwoman?

  14. “The popular Meera-Jon theory.”

    *Insert Professor Farnsworth “I don’t want to live on this planet anymore” meme.*

    Don’t get me wrong I love a good tinfoil, but my thoughts on this one have been summed up pretty perfectly by Kendrick herself: “I think people might just be thinking that because we’ve both got curly hair.”

  16. I’m also not into this particular theory, but very interested to eventually meet Howland Reed and what he knows. The Reeds may be central to everything, after all, they swear it by Ice and Fire 😉

  23. Ugh google Translation … He said you must not be smarter than the writer … which is quite the difference to may not … 😉

  27. plop_plop: Something to read “into” from Queen Margery…

    In the books, we don’t know if he survived. I feel this is the first confirmation I’ve had that he’s dead unless Natalie is lying, too. Does this mean he dies in the books, too? I wasn’t ready for this. I didn’t mourn him & now it feels like it’s too late even if there is a funeral. Even if he comes back to life exactly the same, I don’t want Jon Snow to die. If he comes back, he will definitely be a changed man though it might be subtle. Oh, I just remembered about Ghost. Nevermind…as long as he gets his body back.

  30. I like the Meera-Jon theory as a fun thought experiment but it is not likely to be anything more than that (the similarity in hair/looks is only a show thing). However, I do want to know why Howland Reed was so willing to send his only two offspring up north alone to embark on an exceptionally dangerous mission. I’d like to know Mr. Reed’s state of mind and possible game-changing secrets before the tale ends.

  31. Pigeon,
    I hope he changes his clothes this season, especially before he gets a funko pop. That robe was the 2nd biggest tragedy last season.

  34. Rygritte:
    Hodors Bastard,
    Maybe the Reeds had a vision that Bran & Meera would end up sitting in a tree. K, i, s, s, i, n, g.

    🙂
    First comes love.
    Then comes eloping.
    Then comes twins in the tower of joy…,

  36. Nymeria Warrior Queen: I don’t think it coincidence, nor necessarily just tied in with

    It isn’t. Jojen dreamed it & hunted him down. The book version of Bran & the Reeds is so much better. I enjoyed their journey so much. One of my favorite scenes is the liddle cave. It makes me tear up. So much good stuff got cut out of the show. When I first read about the Liddle in a cave, I was convinced it was Beric in disguise. Why else would he have dozens of biscuits? After rereading the other day, it seemed those who were watching Bran & co probably set up the meeting in the cave by predicting they would seek shelter there & were prepared with fire & food.

  37. Huh, I’d never heard of the theory before that Meera and Jon are curly-haired twins. And I’m glad I hadn’t, lol! 😀
    Looking forward to seeing Meera again and what her story is going to be. At the end of S4, it seemed to have come to a natural end.

  42. Holy crap, GRRM answered my question in JJ!

    Me: Hello, Mr. Martin! Sorry for the off-topic question, but will you be writing an episode for Season 7 of Game of Thrones? D&D mentioned in a podcast earlier this month that they were about to start outlining the plot, so we, the readers instantly thought “Okay, will GRRM be involved this time?”

    GRRM: I am not writing anything until I deliver WINDS OF WINTER. Teleplays, screenplays, short stories, introductions, forewords, nothing.

    And I’ve dropped all my editing projects but Wild Cards.

    http://grrm.livejournal.com/472761.html

  44. Gravemaster,

    That’s the uber-grown-up thing to say; however, he’ll definitely deliver his book well before season 7 scripts are due, right? If so, he’s hasn’t really said no.

  45. Gravemaster: GRRM: I am not writing anything until I deliver WINDS OF WINTER. Teleplays, screenplays, short stories, introductions, forewords, nothing.

    Well…at least he didn’t flip you off. The jaded spirit within me wonders how long he is going to cut-and-paste this response.

  46. Kay,

    Me too. I love Meera in the books and I’m so excited to see what will be her role in the show. She still alive, so I think she has some importance.

  47. Meera is one character most would love to see have an impact on the way things play. If there is a connection to Bran through family ties, it’ll be a good thing. The Starks & The Reeds will be close families, I feel, and back through History too.
    Not sure about being Jon’s sibling though, and I see where the physical looks come in. As Ellie says, they are described differently in the books.

    Jaqen No One, Man of Mystery. Wonderful character, portrayed most excellently too. The more we think we know, the less we really do know. Curious – Hodor? H’ghar? Coincidentally similar sounding?

  50. Anon,

    No, season 7 scripts have to be completed by this spring (maybe around June? I can’t remember exactly). Highly doubt George will be done with Winds of Winter even close to that. Maybe later in the year, if we’re really lucky.

  54. I too am eager to find out much more about Howland, the crannogfolk, their ancient connections and so on. And I do like Meera very much as a character. I suppose that her being “a little bit of a socialist at heart” might have something to do with it!

    I also want desperately to visit the mysterious Isle of Faces. The greenseer blood among the Reeds would seem to point to Meera as the PoV who could take us there on some mission for Bran.

  59. Selina,

    I think that it is more of a comment on how small a criterion similarity is when they cast siblings. The two characters are described as looking very similar in the books. That is easy to do in a book: all it requires is words. However, the probability of finding two adults that look enough alike that they can pass for siblings AND both act is vanishingly small. As such, show and movie casters usually do not bother getting closer than general ethnicity when casting family members.

    And that is what makes the idea doubly silly: if similarity was not a criterion when casting the Stark siblings (or any other TV or film siblings), then why would it be when casting “secret” siblings?

  60. Gravemaster:
    Holy crap, GRRM answered my question in JJ!

    Me: Hello, Mr. Martin! Sorry for the off-topic question, but will you be writing an episode for Season 7 of Game of Thrones? D&D mentioned in a podcast earlier this month that they were about to start outlining the plot, so we, the readers instantly thought “Okay, will GRRM be involved this time?”

    GRRM: I am not writing anything until I deliver WINDS OF WINTER. Teleplays, screenplays, short stories, introductions, forewords, nothing.

    And I’ve dropped all my editing projects but Wild Cards.

    http://grrm.livejournal.com/472761.html

    Kudos to you sir/madam. May the words flow freely, Georgie boy. I know he wants to finish this damn thing more than we want to read it.

    Umm, so uhh, what are the best semi-clad Tom Wlaschiha movies to watch? Asking for a friend…

  61. Anon:
    Gravemaster,
    That’s the uber-grown-up thing to say; however, he’ll definitely deliver his book well before season 7 scripts are due, right? If so, he’s hasn’t really said no.

    oh you sweet summer child

  62. Irishton,

    Yes. He saved Ned’s life, or so Ned felt. We know next to nothing about the details: the closest we get in the books are Ned revisiting it in a nightmare, so we do not even know what parts of that little bit were real and which were Ned’s regrets.

  64. She’s a little bit of a socialist at heart, I don’t think she’ll be able to rule with the iron fist that the throne requires.

    #FeelTheReed 2016

  65. Danzo,

    Agreed. Far less tinfoil required than some up thread suggest. in book,

    Same age, long-face descriptions, curly hair, martial ability

    . Definitive? Of course not. But closer than

    Euron = Daario

    ? Just so.

  67. This is a most ridiculous theory, and she responded to that like a pro. Definitely curious about the Reeds though, can’t wait for old Howland to resurface. I wonder how and where we will see him, and if we will ever see Greywater Watch. Great mystery surrounds that place.
    Excited to see what Meera’s up to this season…

  68. Like so many others, I can’t wait for Howland Reed. I actually heard a theory for the first time today that Howland is the High Sparrow which made me laugh, but anyways, lol.
    I would like to find out why the Crannogmen didn’t come to Robb’s aid. Is there something I’ve missed in the books that already explained that?
    I agree that Jojen and Meera’s journey north if the wall was so much better in the books. Does anyone subscribe to the “Jojen Paste” theory btw? lol
    In regards to the Crannogmen’s allegience to the Stark’s, I find Meera and Jojen’s pledge wording to Bran very interesting that it mentions Ice and Fire. Does anyone know if there is any significance to it?

    “I swear it by earth and water.” — Jojen

    “I swear it by bronze and iron.” — Meera

    “We swear it by ice and fire.” — Both

    And no, I don’t believe Meera is Jon’s twin either. But do I believe Meera and Jojen are natural born siblings? That one I’m not so sure of.

  69. I still hope to learn what Jaqen was up to in KL when he got caught and imprisoned. Was he on a mission for the FM, or does in it fact not matter any more than a nipple on a breastplate and he just had to be there for plot convenience on Arya’s arc?

  70. Gravemaster,

    Congratulations, I’m glad you were able to communicate with your favourite writer, most of us haven’t.
    I’m sure that GRRM has the best intention and will to finish TWOW asap, but unfortunately, judging from my experience regarding people I know and myself, people don’t always manage to do what they intend to.

  71. scififantasygirl,

    I hate “Jojen paste”. I’d be interested to find out more about the Reeds, Howland mostly, I hope he’ll appear in the show. And I don’t think he has already appeared, you know what I mean.
    Both Meera and Ellie are nice, trustworthy girls.

  74. Are there any German fans who would be willing to translate Tom Wlaschiha’s interview? I’m only pre-intermediate in German, so I wouldn’t dare. Pleeeease!

  75. Shy Lady Dragon: I hate “Jojen paste”.

    Well, if the “Jojen paste” theory comes true in TWOW, he got off easy, from a certain point of view —As far as the show is concerned, Jojen’s condition is way beyond paste! First he got stabbed to death and then blown up into thousands of charred bits. He’s probably no more than frozen ashes by now 😛

    That said, ritualistic cannibalism is certainly more morbid than Jojen’s fate in the show. Especially considering the subject was probably nonconsensual and the cannibal becomes so unwittingly. That’s pretty fucked up.

  76. Anon:
    Gravemaster,

    That’s the uber-grown-up thing to say; however, he’ll definitely deliver his book well before season 7 scripts are due, right? If so, he’s hasn’t really said no.

    The season seven scripts should be ready by the time season six is finished airing in July, at the latest. Do you seriously think GRRM will be able to deliver TWOW “well before” that? Well before that would be… right about now or in the next few months. To be honest, I wouldn’t be at all surprised if the sixth book isn’t released before the seventh season premieres!

  77. Shy Lady Dragon:
    Are there any German fans who would be willing to translate Tom Wlaschiha’s interview? I’m only pre-intermediate in German, so I wouldn’t dare. Pleeeease!

    He reveals

    I am no-one 😉

  78. thornofhighgarden,

    Ha. Maybe I’m conflating on the hair. I thought I noticed it during a re-read this summer, but I’d have to skim approximately 1 billion pages to confirm. The long face description I’m pretty sure of.

    It’ll either be resolved by an alt-shift-x ep, or by

    TOJ

    scene.

  80. Henry Gordon,

    I have just remembered something. When Bran’s gang are taken prisoners at Craster’s keep by NW deserters, the horrible “legend of Gin Alley” plays with Meera’s hair, saying he likes curly hair. Now I wonder whether there was something meant to point out to Meera’s hair to make us notice it.
    I have seen the show for many times, but I have read the books only once, so my memories linked to the show are more vivid.

  83. Henry Gordon,

    Meera is said to have long brown hair in the books, same as Jon. Her eyes however are green, same as Jojen. Whereas Jon has the grey eyes of the Starks. Only his eyes are much darker, that they almost look black. Plus, Meera in the books, is supposed to be short and slim, similar to other crannogmen. Basically the only thing common between Jon and Meera in the books is their age and maybe their hair, since both are described to have brown hair. I don’t think the twin theory is true though.

  84. Ser Not Appearing In This Series:
    I still hope to learn what Jaqen was up to in KL when he got caught and imprisoned. Was he on a mission for the FM,or does in it fact not matter any more than a nipple on a breastplate and he just had to be there for plot convenience on Arya’s arc?

    I’ve always wondered the same thing. And if he was associated with Rorge and Biter beforehand? I know some theories are that they are Faceless Men as well but it seems that the whole deal with FM is that they are quiet unassuming assassins and those two are visually insane.
    There is another pretty far-fetched theory out there that Varys saved Ned by sneaking him out of the cells and replaced him with a FM for his public trial. Again, I can’t see a FM being used for that.
    I love how it seems that the longer the span is between the books, the crazier the theories seem to get, lol. But its great fun reading them.

  85. Does anybody here remember Meera Lynn? Remember how she said that we would meet again…in Season 6.

    Meera?
    Meera?

    What has become of you? The nerds have all made up theories and my balls are turning blue.

  86. ghost of winterfell,

    See? I knew there was an easier option than me looking back through the books-thanks. I think they’re both described as long-faced, & I think I remember Bran noting that she was of an age with Jon.

    It’s a stretch, but there’s at least enough to hang a hat on. More so than some of the truly batsh% theories.

  87. Whut???

    For the love of god another one of these insane theories, seriously some of them are just too much to handle.

  88. scififantasygirl,

    I don’t really support the Jaqen = Syrio theory. Even if we suppose Syrio was captured by Meryn F. Trant and not killed, then put in the Black Cells, surely someone would notice at some point that Syrio had “disappeared” and a new prisoner in the form of Jaqen had “appeared”? The timeline is a bit confused to as to when Jaqen, Rorge and Biter were released in to the care of Yoren and whether Ned was in the cells at the same time.

    It may not be at all important, but I think GRRM really doesn’t like loose ends and few things happen by pure chance in his world, so Jaqen must have had some purpose in KL. Whether we shall ever know….

  89. scififantasygirl,

    No way! I’ll forbid any “paste Reed” theory!
    I’d rather believe the Syrio Forel theory, or, at least, I want it to be true. But about Rorge and Biter, I think it’s impossible. Don’t forget Arya killed Rorge in the show. And about Ned it’s even less believable.

  90. Shy Lady Dragon:
    scififantasygirl,

    No way! I’ll forbid any “paste Reed” theory!
    I’d rather believe the Syrio Forel theory, or, at least, I want it to be true. But about Rorge and Biter, I think it’s impossible. Don’t forget Arya killed Rorge in the show. And about Ned it’s even less believable.

    I think GRRM himself said something at some time to at least strongly hint that there is no connection between Syrio and Jaqen, don’t know if I could ever find it…

  92. I’d like to know how is our MeeraReed. I hope she becomes stronger and healthier every day. Get well soon!

  93. Shy Lady Dragon,

    Well this is not from the horses mouth but info from westeros.org

    In 2005, GRRM pointed out that Syrio seems to have been left in a hopeless situation when he was last seen, and suggested readers should “draw your own conclusions” based on this (SSM), which seems to imply that Syrio Forel was in fact killed. More recent reports (but, it should be said, unconfirmed) indicate GRRM does not understand why he gets asked the question repeatedly, pointing out that Syrio is not immortal; if accurate, this seems to more heavily imply that Syrio Forel is dead.

    Regarding Jaqen, if a very reasonable IMO theory is true relating to the prologue of ADWD, then Jaqen, while not a major character, seems to have a part to play in at least expanding some of the dragon lore/myth (how this will play out in the show must be different,with Jaqen in the HoB&W). I am sure that GRRM would have given him a back story that would explain his presence in KL, I just hope that that it might be revealed sometime.

  94. Henry Gordon,

    You are welcome…I don’t remember Meera being described as long faced though!

    Ser Not Appearing In This Series,

    scififantasygirl,

    Regarding the Syrio=Jaqen theory, I don’t know if this proves or disproves anything, but in AFFC, when Jaime questions the gaoler after Tyrion’s escape from the black cells, he tells Jaime that it was Ned Stark who had given the three criminals in the black cells to the Night’s Watch. I remember this quite clearly as I am reading AFFC now. So unless the gaoler was making a mistake, it means that Jaqen was already in the black cells before Syrio had his showdown with Meryn Trant. Which would make it unlikely that they are the same person?

  96. Nymeria Warrior Queen:
    Rat Kook,
    Yep, tin-foil can be fun, but there’s tin-foil and then there’s heavy duty tin-foil made into a hat with antennae you put on yourself and your cat.I think the Jon and Meera are brother an sister falls into the latter.

    So wearing my regular tinfoil hat, sans antennae, makes me a reasonably sane and practical girl? :hides alien stun-gun: :straightens hat: :looks hopeful:

  98. Rygritte,

    Where’ve you been, Rygritte? Yes, D&D have been confirming that “Jon Snow is dead,” “deader than dead,” and “dead is dead” since the same night of the Season 5 finale, and all the actors have been toeing the line. I didn’t think he was truly dead, either, until I read from other readers here, way before the finale, that pretty much everyone assumed he was really and truly dead but had theories as to what could happen from there. With Melisandre apparating back to Castle Black at the last possible second, that seemed to confirm the strongest of those theories, as does the Jon-Snow-as-Christ-Crucified HBO teaser poster that does “give the game away a bit,” according to Meera. The stone will be rolled away, innit?

  100. Wimsey:
    Selina,

    I think that it is more of a comment on how small a criterion similarity is when they cast siblings.The two characters are described as looking very similar in the books.That is easy to do in a book: all it requires is words.However, the probability of finding two adults that look enough alike that they can pass for siblings AND both act is vanishingly small.As such, show and movie casters usually do not bother getting closer than general ethnicity when casting family members.

    And that is what makes the idea doubly silly: if similarity was not a criterion when casting the Stark siblings (or any other TV or film siblings), then why would it be when casting “secret” siblings?

    I gotta disagree with you on that one, Wimsey. Yes, siblings aren’t cast to look so much alike generally, presumably because it’s so difficult. But the narrative / script establishes the familial relation. So instead of a perfect visual fit, you get dialogue and behavior that suggests it.

    On a reveal such as this, if this theory were true, it can’t come out of left field. That would seem cheap to viewers. So here visual similarity would be a borderline necessary function, along with a bit of foreshadowing. If somebody mentioned her hair a couple times at Craster’s Keep, it seems possible.

    I haven’t read the books anyway, so I don’t have a feel for if the theory is bonkers or viable, but I do think that (assuming it were true) exactly because it’s a secret sibling relationship, the resemblance would be important.

  102. Daughter of Winter,

    Hi, haven’t seen you around in a while! I hope your studying goes well.
    Sometimes the theories about ASOIAF/ GOT seem crazy, but they are fun read about. It’s just human curious mind until it gets new food in the form of a book or season.

  103. Hodors Bastard:
    First comes love.
    Then comes eloping.
    Then comes twins in the tower of joy…,

    First comes love.
    Then comes marriage.
    Then come twins we must disparage.
    For if folks knew their true worth,
    They would not live five weeks past birth.

  104. I too have a tough time swallowing any sort of Jojen paste theory, yuppers, pun intended. I also never ever subscribed to the J + M twins theory. Not when I read the books, either time I read them – nor when I saw the series. There is always a chance that any or all of us could be wrong on this, but I wouldn’t bet any amount of cheddar on it.

    As to the questions on why Jaqen was arrested, in KL or got ordered to the NW……I have no clue but have always been curious about it. It seems a bit neatly tied together that he is the one that essentially becomes the reason for Arya to have a No One story at all, so I have been going on he is her story arc catalyst at this point.

    Syrio. I loved him and no, we didn’t see him actually die, but I do think he did, just as Shireen did and Stannis did. The Hound I think there is a huge probability that he is also pushin’ up daisies, but there is an extreme hope that he is “you know where, posing as you know who”.

    LOL. Lord love a duck, we need the season to start already. 8 weeks is a long time for more and more theories to sprout. *whisper mode* at least the LSH crowd seems to have finally settled down. 😉

    MeeraReed Please drop us a note so we know you are on the way to a recovery from your surgery. Look what we do with scraplette’s of non-information. 🙂 Hoping all is well. ((hugs))

  105. Ginevra: First comes love.
    Then comes marriage.
    Then come twins we must disparage.
    For if folks knew their true worth,
    They would not live five weeks past birth.

    Even though I think this theory is very unlikely.
    Nicely done, I did not know we have a poet in our midst.

  106. Firannion:
    I also want desperately to visit the mysterious Isle of Faces.

    I know! I forget about all the goodness that awaits us, sometimes! The Isle of Faces, the Knight of the Laughing Tree!!!! What if we get that this season?!?!?!

  107. Newbietothegame,

    I’m not a believer, either, but I was following that train of thought. We could fix it:

    First comes love.
    Then comes marriage.
    Then come a prince we must disparage.
    For if folks knew his true worth,
    He would not live five weeks past birth.

  108. Ginevra: First comes love.
    Then comes marriage.
    Then come twins we must disparage.
    For if folks knew their true worth,
    They would not live five weeks past birth.

    Sadly, as she bled,
    three words were said
    “Promise me, Ned.”
    Then she died, and both friends cried.
    They knew the true worth of these special births.
    As tears were shed,
    Ashara Dayne spoke for all with much pain.
    “In order to save two,
    one should go with Reed and the other with you!”

  110. Ginevra,
    Hodors Bastard: Sadly, as she bled,
    three words were said
    “Promise me, Ned.”
    Then she died, and both friends cried.
    They knew the true worth of these special births.
    Without hesitation, Ashara Dayne spoke for all with much pain.
    “In order to save two,
    One should go with Reed and the other with you!”

    Wonderful! *applauses* It seems there’s a connection between Math and poetry 😉

  112. Shy Lady Dragon: there’s a connection between Math and poetry

    🙂 Merci. When academia booted me from their Lit curriculum, I was embraced by Gödel and Schrödinger. Go figure.

  113. Thoughts on the theories in the thread:
    Meera & Jon are siblings: Nope
    Jojen is Paste and Bran unknowingly(?) eats him in order to further is abilities: NOPE!
    Hound is

    gravedigger

    : Yup
    Lyanna had twins: Maybe, but I doubt it. Ned’s POV or Dany’s HotU vision would hint more at it. “A blue rose grew from a chink in the wall”
    Jaqen is Syrio: Maybe. It isn’t that hard to believe. Syrio likely died, however. If Syrio was instead taken to the KL dungeon, then I could see him changing his face in there with nobody noticing. Gaolers likely weren’t very interested in taking roll call…

  115. Luka Nieto,

    This got me thinking along lines I’d rather not……

    If the ritualistic cannibalism in question ends up relevant for Bran’s metamorphosis, and if Jojen has been blown to bits, then there may be only two candidates left in the “show cave” to…. make paste with….

  116. Let me point out what seems rather obvious – if Jaqen didn’t want to or have a purpose to be in the cells, just who on earth do you think could have stood any chance of putting him there?!

  117. Sister Kisser:
    Luka Nieto,

    This got me thinking along lines I’d rather not……

    If the ritualistic cannibalism in question ends up relevant for Bran’s metamorphosis, and if Jojen has been blown to bits, then there may be only two candidates left in the “show cave” to…. make paste with….

    Oh good God no…. lol.
    “Hodor lickin’ good”

    But the thought on the theory is that it is the fact that Jojen has green dreams that makes ‘Jojen Paste’ awaken Bran’s visions.
    “The Paste that was Promised”

    I’ll see myself out….

  118. scififantasygirl: Oh good God no…. lol.
    “Hodor lickin’ good”

    But the thought on the theory is that it is the fact that Jojen has green dreams that makes ‘Jojen Paste’ awaken Bran’s visions.
    “The Paste that was Promised”

    I’ll see myself out….

    Ewww, just…no…

  119. ghost of winterfell:
    Henry Gordon,

    You are welcome…I don’t remember Meera being described as long faced though!

    Ser Not Appearing In This Series,

    scififantasygirl,

    Regarding the Syrio=Jaqen theory, I don’t know if this proves or disproves anything, but in AFFC, when Jaime questions the gaoler after Tyrion’s escape from the black cells, he tells Jaime that it was Ned Stark who had given the three criminals in the black cells to the Night’s Watch. I remember this quite clearly as I am reading AFFC now. So unless the gaoler was making a mistake, it means that Jaqen was already in the black cells before Syrio had his showdown with Meryn Trant. Which would make it unlikely that they are the same person?

    Good catch! I have a difficult time keeping things straight in my head as I read the books….time frames being one of those things. I have never in my life read such a large series filled with so much…..everything!

  120. Pigeon:
    Let me point out what seems rather obvious – if Jaqen didn’t want to or have a purpose to be in the cells, just who on earth do you think could have stood any chance of putting him there?!

    And the plot thickens…

  121. Newbietothegame: Ewww, just…no…

    Lol, and for the record, I’m not saying I subscribe to any of these theories. Its just fun to throw them around for people to ponder or laugh about.
    Jojen Paste in the books however is one that makes sense. And George doesn’t shy away from cannibalism, blood sacrifices, ect in any of his literary works from what I hear. But I doubt HBO would delve directly into that considering how people react to sacrificial burning and torture in the series.

  123. Hodors Bastard: Sadly, as she bled,
    three words were said
    “Promise me, Ned.”
    Then she died, and both friends cried.
    They knew the true worth of these special births.
    As tears were shed,
    Ashara Dayne spoke for all with much pain.
    “In order to save two,
    one should go with Reed and the other with you!”

    This is beautiful!

  124. Loving all this poetry!

    Meera+Jon=twins? Nah
    Jojen paste NOOOO, the paste was made from Weirwood which has red sap!!!
    Syrio=Jaqen I don’t care if it can’t be true. I will believe it because I want it to be true! I want Syrio to be alive!

  125. scififantasygirl: Jojen Paste in the books however is one that makes sense. And George doesn’t shy away from cannibalism, blood sacrifices, ect in any of his literary works from what I hear. But I doubt HBO would delve directly into that considering how people react to sacrificial burning and torture in the series.

    Yet, Thenns. Thenns were enough, more cannibalism would be too far over the top, wouldn’t it?

    But Meera and Jon? Hmmm, (adjusting tin foil hat, moving antenna a bit, enticing cat to keep her tin hat on and not chase it around the house) – emphasis on curly hair on Meera, long curly hair on Jon plus emphasis on hair clause… everyone and their brother calling Jon pretty. Rewatch seasons 4 and 5, you’d be amazed at how many times Jon is called pretty. Could that be calling attention to the possibility of a “pretty girl” counterpart existing and we are being groomed to walk easily through that door? ooops, cat swatted off the tin hat, sneezed and stalked away, tail in the air. Guess that’s the answer to that.

  126. The Jon+Meera=twins theory is far from the most ridiculous one going around. At least it doesn’t posit anyone being an immortal vampire or a secret merman. Nor does it try to persuade us that someone as closely associated with the ways of the North and the Old Gods as the leader of the crannogfolk would be so convincing in his knowledge of the Seven that he could fool the pious masses and rise to the post of High Septon.

  127. Sister Kisser,

    Or maybe they just do the simple thing and just cut the whole paste thing out of the show like they did with plenty of other things from the books . If it was that important then they would have done it with Jojen,i see no other reason why they would do it with a different character.

  128. Firannion: so convincing in his knowledge of the Seven that he could fool the pious masses and rise to the post of High Septon

    Yeah, I don’t buy Howland Reed as HS. Not that I know anything much about either of them. It’s more of wanting Howland to be one of the truly good guys, like Ned was trying to be, rather than a crazed fanatic like the HS is becoming, allowing atrocities in the name of faith and justice. We already have enough loonies. I’m ready for some steadier characters, maybe with eccentricities, as I’m sure HR would have. Steady, fair, benevolent.

    They are introducing Randyll Tarly this season. We already know him to be such a tyrant that Sam cringed at even the thought of naming baby Sam after him. So, I hope Dickon is a fairer character, especially where Sam is concerned, and not just a copy of Randyll. I’m done with tyrants. I want Jon to get revenge and whip all the Northern Lords into fighting shape against the WW, but I also hope HE doesn’t become a tyrant. I need to believe that goodness can prevail, someplace, in some way, both in the fantasy world and the real one. and that’s not the tin hat talking

  129. Ginevra,
    Yeah, but nobody made an argument like Nat did. I was a bit emotional after a glass and a bowl. I love Jon & Kit is perfect in that role. I also love 2 for 1 margaritas and bowls, bowls, all types of bowls. Cheers

  131. scififantasygirl:
    Does anyone subscribe to the “Jojen Paste” theory btw? lol

    *waves hand* I do! First time I ever read the books, way before I ever googled ASOIAF Theories, I picked up two theories as I read. One was Sandor Clegane = Gravedigger; the other that Bran ate Jojen. Because this was my impression when I read the book, I completely believe it. The only thing I will slightly concede re Jojen Paste is that there is a possibility the COTF merely bled Jojen, and he’s still alive. But I’m 95% sure he is dead. Blood magic and the Weirwoods makes total sense – we see blood sacrifice under the trees in one of Bran’s visions after all.

  133. thornofhighgarden: Neither Jon nor Meera were described as having curly hair in the books? At least, I don’t think?

    No, Jon’s hair is not described as curly, but neither is Meera’s. However, the two are described as looking very different from one another in the books. Jon has very dark brown hair, and eyes that are almost black in color. Meera is described as looking much like Jojen, and both are described as hair the same color as light brown things and also has having eyes that are a “mossy” green.

    Meera and Jojen also are supposed to be very short: they basically are only a little taller than Bran is when they meet, even though they both are a bit older than Bran.

    Roberta Baratheon: Jojen paste NOOOO, the paste was made from Weirwood which has red sap!!!

    And yet Jojen pointedly stressed that Bran was not the one who needed to be afraid of what was coming! Remember, Jojen knows when he is going to die. The fact that they also killed him on the show makes this conjecture a fairly parsimonious one.

    Thronetender: Yeah, I don’t buy Howland Reed as HS.

    Someone posted the putative evidence for this idea here once. What was astounding is that all of it was either imagined (details about the High Sparrow’s physical appearance, place of origin, etc. that never are given in the books) or flatout wrong (the Sparrow being pro-Stark). About the only thing in common is that the Sparrow is described as being small: which, of course, most of the “smallfolk” would be relative to the nobility because of differences in nutrition! Even then, we are not told if he is as small as a crannogman.

    Supposedly the motivation for the idea is that Jon has to be King of Westeros to fulfill the Azor Ahai prophecy, and that a High Septon knowing Jon’s true parents could proclaim him as such and have Jon accepted as King. Of course, from what little we know of the Prophecy, AA simply has to be proclaimed king: King Beyond the Wall or King Crow would do just as well. Moreover, this High Septon already has burned enough bridges with the most relevant nobility (Tyrells and Lannisters) that his pronouncements would mean next to nothing! (Besides, the HS comes across as more Robespierre than Duke of Perth!)

  134. Thronetender: Yeah, I don’t buy Howland Reed as HS. Not that I know anything much about either of them. It’s more of wanting Howland to be one of the truly good guys, like Ned was trying to be, rather than a crazed fanatic like the HS is becoming,

    Plus it would be a stretch for HR to convert to the Faith of the Seven considering how close the Crannogmen are to the old Gods and even Children of the Forest. And the amount of time and dedication it took for the HS to become what he has. There just seems to be too much going against the theory.

  135. Wimsey,

    And what about age? Ned and Howland were close to the same age. The HS is clearly older. Now yes, its said that Howland may have some skill with spells which may give him an ability to alter his image but again, it’s a large stretch.

  136. Thronetender: Yet, Thenns.Thenns were enough, more cannibalism would be too far over the top, wouldn’t it?

    But Meera and Jon?Hmmm, (adjusting tin foil hat, moving antenna a bit, enticing cat to keep her tin hat on and not chase it around the house)– emphasis on curly hair on Meera, long curly hair on Jon plus emphasis on hair clause… everyone and their brother calling Jon pretty.Rewatch seasons 4 and 5, you’d be amazed at how many times Jon is called pretty.Could that be calling attention to the possibility of a “pretty girl”counterpart existing and we are being groomed to walk easily through that door?ooops, cat swatted off the tin hat, sneezed and stalked away, tail in the air.Guess that’s the answer to that.

    Lol! *signal lost*

  138. Rygar: Hmmm.

    Unfortunately, Meera Lynn was a casualty of Robert’s Rebellion.

    Don’t leave the children on their own
    Bring the twins back home

  139. scififantasygirl,

    Errrr…. duh. Jojen’s green sight is the magic ingredient for the paste.. something akin to king’s blood. Been awhile since I’ve read up on various theories, and totally overlooked that detail. Good, no Meera sacrifices, and NO paste in the show!

  140. “As Meera Lynn would say, we’ll meet again someday, and all the sacrifices we will make before we end.”

    Now that aint no Floyd, but rather a far superior British band. Name it, and I may just have to give ye a smooch. No interweb searches.

  142. I am well on my way toward inebriation and I have no one to talk Brit Pop with.

    I will say, totally off my own topic, that I was floored to see a representation of the New York Dolls on HBO’s Vinyl last Sunday.

  144. Ok, so who would bang, marry, kill from Season 5?

    Bang: The Sand Snake with the tits
    Marry: Doran
    Kill: Shireen (because once was definitely not enough).

  145. Rygar,

    Plant one on my soul, brohim.
    Vinyl brought down the house! I can’t wait to see it explore the roots of many music genres from the 70s, including punk, rap, reggae, glam, power rock, altpop, etc…fun! I wonder where Devon and Ingrid (Karsi!) are headed?

  148. Wimsey: Moreover, this High Septon already has burned enough bridges with the most relevant nobility (Tyrells and Lannisters) that his pronouncements would mean next to nothing!

    That’s for sure! Not to mention severely annoying Littlefinger by closing the brothels, tormenting the customers so that they’ll never come back, and spilling the wine into the streets. It may turn out that LF will be his most dangerous enemy.

    It’s almost like he’s the religious counterpart to poor old Ned – originally well-meaning, excellent at his job on a smaller scale, dedicated to his beliefs to a ridiculous level with a refusal to alter viewpoints, and possessing either no talent at politics and/or a bullheaded refusal to play the political game. The difference is I was sad to see Ned go; I wouldn’t be sad to see HS undone.

  149. Rygar,

    Shireen to kill? Say it isn’t so?!

    Bang: Jon Snow (for any and all seasons)
    Marry: Since Jon won’t go that far in breaking his vows (and he’s dead) I’ll say, well geez who’s left really lol, um Doran I guess. He’s nice.
    Kill: Ramsay

  150. Shy Lady Dragon,

    Hi there my friend thanks, yeah i’ve been busy past few days. Ok i overreacted a bit about this theory i mean they are way crazier fan made theories out there, besides people were disappointed with the teaser so anything that can distract them from the fact that we are yet to see any proper new footages of season 6 is sufficient i guess.

    … And awesome avatar by the way.

  151. Rygar,

    We know how you like it Ry- all Kinky and less….. Pink. Now excuse me while I vomit somewhere far away from my computer…

    And nice work above with Vera, I mean, Meera Lynn. I caught it. Anything from the Wall seems to work here. Kindof like when I used to get really high as a kid and watch Alice in Wonderland while listening to the Wall…. Nah, but seriously. I am interested in Vinyl now, with the New York Dolls reference. Wasn’t sure it was going to keep it that real. Will definitely have to check it out.

  152. Sullied by Knight,

    Oh, that would be interesting! I didn’t get it. I thought Devon was uncomfortable about some things Ingrid knew about her and were not fit for a housewife, mother of two. But it wasn’t a time for prudes and blushing.

  153. Ygritte,

    Bang: Oberyn, when he was alive. If I must choose a living character, then Jaqen H’ghar.
    Marry: Jaime (I still hope it implies some banging)
    Kill: Walder Frey (he’s the one I hate most)

    I would like more people to take this poll 🙂

  155. A slight variant.

    Shag: Melissandre
    Marry: Sansa
    Avoid: Arya ( have a great fondness for Arya, but life expectancy drops sharply in her presence 🙂 )

  161. Selina,

    They call him Brian Stark LOL. Thanks for the link though!

    I also liked the headline: “A lot of long term riddles make sense in season 6.”
    So let’s start counting: Jon’s parentage, Hodor’s origin, maybe more about the motivations of the White Walkers? What else is there?

  163. Bang: Missandei, for sure! Margaery is my back-up since the trip to Mereen is full of slavers…but also if the three SS is considered one package I’ll take ’em.

    Marry: Melisandre, i need some action in my life………..

    Kill: Little Sam. It’s too creepy with a baby that never ages….!

  164. Pigeon,

    Good call with Jorah, he must be the perfect husband. But you already know that, I’m aware of your fortunetelling powers 😉
    I like Tom Wlaschiha as well, so I recommend Crossing Lines to you, I have seen 3 episodes. It’s a detective show and Tom is part of the main cast.

  165. Shag: Bronn (if I could pick anyone from any season it would have been Oberyn, but the rules said season 5)

    Marry: Tyrion – because I luff him. 😛

    Kill: Ellaria Sand OR Cersie Lannister!! No explanation necessary.

  166. Rygar,

    Bang: I would have loved to say Oberyn. But that aint happening 🙁 Lets go with Daario 😉
    Marry: Jon Snow – when he wakes up from the dead, he will be free from his vows. RIGHT????????
    Kill: Ramsay – ten times and Cersei Lannister

  169. Rygar,

    Bang: limited choices for me if one does not go underage. Probably any one of the “too old” ladies. Or all.

    Marry: Karsi. Especially before hardhome, but if after-well-whatevs.
    Kill: the iron islanders, preemptively. (‘cept Theon). Were they not in season 5? Fine. Dorne.

  170. Henry Gordon:
    Rygar,

    Bang:limited choices for me if one does not go underage.Probably any one of the “too old” ladies.Or all.

    Marry: Karsi.Especially before hardhome, but if after-well-whatevs.
    Kill:the iron islanders, preemptively. (‘cept Theon). Were they not in season 5?Fine.Dorne.

    Now this made me laugh. Thank you!

    My turn.
    Bang: Jon, you can call me ‘cougar’ as much as you want.
    Marry: Jorah
    Kill: Oh my, so many to choose. I’ll take the first on my list, Ramsay, followed closely by LF.

  174. Shy Lady Dragon:
    Pigeon,

    Good call with Jorah, he must be the perfect husband. But you already know that, I’m aware of your fortunetelling powers
    I like Tom Wlaschiha as well, so I recommend Crossing Lines to you, I have seen 3 episodes. It’s a detective show and Tom is part of the main cast.

    It’s a great show! I’ll also freely admit to watching some rather bad movies just because he’s in it. Which I do on occasion with actors I like, because I’m a masochist apparently. ? Glad you love him too, he’s a gem.

  176. Newbietothegame,

    Re: Jorah-get yourself a good life insurance policy on him before stonemen episode!

    I’m surprised no one wants to marry the Night King! Power, charisma, and those blue eyes!

  177. Pigeon,

    Did you mean Frisch gepresst? It’s the one where Tom’s character falls in love with a pregnat girl who owns a shop. I know its title only in German. I have watched it on HBO… more than once, I admit!
    Feel free to recommend me other films where Tom has a part, no matter how bad 🙂
    IIRC he has a very small part in Inglourious Basterds (I hope I got the wrong spelling right), great film!

  183. JCDavis,

    I am doing well, thank you. It’s great to see this interview- Ellie seems like a great person.

    Thanks again for the concern, it’s great to be back!

  185. Rygar,

    Bang: Daario 1 and Daario 2, for comparison purposes.
    Jaime: The things he’d do for my love.
    Sansa: So we could have one final discussion about her and then have it be done.

  187. Rygar,

    Bang: Jaime
    Marry: Jon, I agree with Deesenfan, death and resurrection are gonna free him from his vows!
    Kill: Ramsey of course, easy peasy..

  188. F: Daenerys (show only) – She’s smokin’. Especially after S1 E10. 😉
    M: Arianne Martell – Powerful, secretive family. A little bit crazy. Gorgeous, and if she can make a White Knight like Ser Aerys break his vows, she must be a keeper.
    K: Sand Snakes (show only) – “You want a good girl, but…”. yep. kill them.

  190. Pigeon,

    Edit about Tom’s roles: he played in Valkyrie, not in Inglourious Basterds. I must have mistaken them based on the WW2 backround.

  191. umuckurlife:
    F: Daenerys (show only) – She’s smokin’.Especially after S1 E10.
    M: Arianne Martell – Powerful, secretive family.A little bit crazy.Gorgeous, and if she can make a White Knight like Ser Aerys break his vows, she must be a keeper.
    K: Sand Snakes (show only) – “You want a good girl, but…”.yep.kill them.

    Meryn F. Trant says: ” too old”, “too old”, “too old”…

  193. Ok, I’ll play.

    Bang: The Sand Snake with the bad pussy. Honestly can’t remember her name.
    Marry: Melisandre – she’s gonna look good for awhile- *dodges frying pans* (JOKE) Ok, ok. Lady Rohanne.
    Kill: The High Septon.

  195. Fine I’ll play…

    Bang: Tyene, I have a thing for short hair…..
    Marry: Hard one… Probally Mel, but more because Carice then her character.
    Kill: Ramsey. Get hyped!!!

  199. Bang: Ramsay
    Marry: Jon Snow
    Kill: Ramsay

    Preferably all in the same night. Ramsay, as Warden of the North, could claim droit du seigneur, and I’d promise to provide a truly happy ending.

    Do I have a thing for bastards? Why, yes. Yes, I do.

  200. Ginevra:
    Bang:Ramsay
    Marry:Jon Snow
    Kill:Ramsay

    Preferably all in the same night.Ramsay, as Warden of the North, could claim droit du seigneur, and I’d promise to provide a truly happy ending.

    I like the timing and symmetry! Like banging Sansa while killing Ramsay. Shouldn’t marry her, tho-she seems to get the people she loves killed.

  201. All right…

    Bang: Daario 2 – sizzling hot.
    Marry: Jaime – he seems like a faithful kind of guy.
    Kill: ach, too many to choose from… Cersei, so that Jaime doesn’t have to.

  202. Question:

    In Season 3 episode 7, between 12:38 and 12:48 a wildling warg asks Ygritte if she loves Jon Snow. He asks, specifically, if it’s Jon’s prettiness – pretty eyes and pretty hair – that makes Ygritte love him. When Ygritte nods ‘yes’ that she does love Jon, he tells her, “You won’t love him so much when you find out what he really is.”

    What do you think he means by “…what he really is.”? And, why does this warg think what Jon “…really is.” relevant to his current good looks?

  203. Anon,

    The wildlings generally being distrustful of Jon, I think the warg meant Jon was a potential traitor. I remember that, when I first saw that scene, I thought he recognized Jon’s warging powers. Then I changed my mind, because that wouldn’t be a good reason for the warg to blame him. And why wouldn’t Ygritte love a warg, if Jon happened to be one? Imo Jon’s good looks are not connected to anything. The warg only wanted Ygritte, was jealous of Jon and bitter because Jon was more handsome than him.

  204. Anon,

    I can’t recall how clearly this is implied in the show, but in the books Orell is jealous of Jon because he has long desired Ygritte and she has consistently rejected him. That hatred feeds his suspicion that Jon will always be a Crow and end up betraying them. So in this context ‘what he really is’ could just mean a spy. But there is also an implication that one skinchanger can sense another who has the ability.

  209. Firannion,

    Ok. I thought it might have to do with warging ability.

    It may be that whole conversation was just to illustrate one thing: Ygritte loves Jon. Ygritte is desired by other men of her ‘kind’, but chooses Jon.

    So, they’ve shown us that Jon is lovable and desirable. But, I think we already knew Jon was a pretty lad and that girls would love him. Why use up real estate to illustrate something we already knew.

  212. Deesensfan,

    I don’t really have any channels 🙂 Haven’t paid for cable since… College. Go figure. 2 tvs in the house and no cable. I like it that way. As for GoT, I buy the blue rays and always watch with friends or family with HBO.

  214. ghost of winterfell,

    To me Jamie would be bang-able only if it weren’t for the creepiness of him doing his sister all those years.

    How come nobody says Ser Davos? Poor guy gets no love. What’s wrong peeps, is he too old for ya?

  219. Rygritte,

    Oh wow that’s a good choice for kill. Never thought about that. Was focused on the humans but yeah, you could slow down the WW invasion maybe. Although I’m willing to bet the 2nd in command would be even angrier.

  220. ygritte,

    In real world terms, yeah, the brother sister thing is super creepy. In context of the story though, it’s easier to digest. Maybe because there are so many instances of incest that we have become sanitised to it 🙂 . Besides, he was always faithful to Cersei. Even Davos, who would otherwise be good husband material, has cheated on his wife quite a few times. Fidelity is important to me!

  221. ghost of winterfell,

    Ah. Did not know this about Mr. Seaworth. And he seemed to have such a code of honor… Well, Jamie is cuter and yeah at least he is faithful. But unfortunately a vibe I get from him is that he wouldn’t smell all that great. I don’t know why lol! Just in character not out. Jon looks like he smells masculine and musky but Jaimie seems like would be a fresh seawater fish odor, and Jorah makes me think of faint hint of dirty socks or something 🙂

  222. ygritte,

    Very interesting, attaching a smell to a character never occurred to me. I like Jaime as a person too, he has travelled a long way since “the things I do for love”. And Cersei being the only woman he has even been with is touching – unbeliavable though for a hansome, rich young man! I completely forgot that Davos was unfaithful to his wife. Still, I think he is a trustworthy, good man. But I also like Jorah – maybe I’ll choose Davos before Jorah because of the lattest getting greyscale (in the show only), how selfish of me!

  223. Shy Lady Dragon,

    I was being silly 🙂 It’s been one of those days, kind of slap-happy for some reason. But now that I re-read it I kinda DO feel that connotation with Jorah. I thought him attractive in a rugged older man kinda way in the first season or two but lately he just comes across as bitter and down in the mouth all the time.

    Just for fun I’m going to name some characters and in one or two words you ascribe a smell to them/or whatever comes to mind. Game? Here’s mine:

    Dany=Apples
    Ramsay=Sweat
    Samwell=Tuna
    Arya=daffodils
    Sansa=roses
    Theon=dust
    Walder=pickles

  224. ygritte,

    I have no idea what I’m doing, but what the Seven Hells!
    Dany=lilac
    Ramsey=hair burning
    Sam=goulash (it’s a delicious variety of Hungarian dishes resembling stew, my favourite one has onions, beef, paprika, caraway seeds, peppers, sour cabbage and cream – what a good idea, I should cook some)
    Arya=violets (she may be a child assassin, but I still see her as innocent)
    Sansa=lilies-of-the-valley
    Theon=salmon
    Walder Frey=corpse (I love pickles, I often have them with chicken or turkey)
    Jorah=old leather
    Davos=sea+spring onions 🙂
    Jon=fir-tree
    Oberyn=the muskiest musk
    Jaime=I’ll think of something sexy enough and I’ll come back 🙂

  225. Shy Lady Dragon,

    OMG I love it. Sam and Ramsay Hahaha. The one so random and the other so very thorough! I’ll read more in depth later today, need to get some much needed sleep. Developed a bad headache awhile ago. That swollen feeling, throbbing kind 🙁 G’night my favorite watcher on the wall!

  226. Sleep tight and wake up with no headaches! But if they still occur, bu sure to see a doctor – I know you don’t need my advice but, as a friend, I should say this.
    I’m really sorry that I won’t be able to go with you to London, it would have been such fun! Can you imagine we still haven’t got the dates for those effing symposiums? I think that’s my boss’s way of keeping us on our toes.
    The goulash smell was not a random choice, I think Sam, judging by his size, would appreciate good food. And for Jaime I choose the finest pipe tobacco, I’d certainly like a pipe smoker. Well, in Romania smoking in public places will be prohibited in a month or so, people won’t smell tobacco any longer!

  227. OOh, I forgot about Pod. Three generous whores can’t be wrong! But no one wants to bang Tormund? Doesn’t he have big … hands?

    Marry – nope, been there, done that. In no hurry to do again.

    Kill: Thorne. Ramsay’s going to get it from someone anyway.

    Jon will probably go against the Night’s King eventually, or Dany will fly in. Thorne needs it, and I don’t think Jon will do it. I think Jon will just ride away from all of them in a disgusted huff.

    Thorne needs it. Too much bile for too long.

  228. Rygar,

    This isn’t fair….I need Robb to be eligible for this! He would have been my Marry! Him and Jon are supposed to engulf me in between them for a nice juicy Stark sandwich! *wipes the wolf drool from her chin*

    Fine, ok…
    Shag/bang and everything else: Jon
    Marry: Stannis….I like a good challenge
    Kill: Alliser Thorne

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