New Game of Thrones season 6 character portraits!

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Entertainment Weekly has more goodies for us today! In advance of their special GoT double-issue, the magazine is releasing character portraits featuring six leading actresses from the show, along with a few choice soundbites about season 6.

Here’s Arya in her House of Black and White costume- and holding Needle!

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“She’s learning the last lesson she needs to learn,” Emilia Clarke says to EW, of her season 6 story. “There’s just few remnants of being a human being she’s shaking off.”

Port Dany

“She really has nothing to lose and she has everything to gain from the horrible position she finds herself in,” says Lena Headey of where Cersei stands this season. Natalie Dormer says of her character’s arc this year, ‘We’ve seen Margaery in a lot of sticky situations, but she’s never been out of her depth before.” The two queens pose here with Clarke.

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Sophie Turner, Maisie Williams and Gwendoline Christie share a portrait, with Sophie once again wearing her famous “Dark Sansa” gown and Brienne in her distinct armor.

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There are even more portraits photos and soundbites at Entertainment Weekly so visit EW for the rest!

Sue the Fury
Susan Miller, Editor in Chief of WatchersOnTheWall.com

154 Comments

  1. Why is Melisandre always sidelined? They left her out of the Vanity Fair shoot as well. It’s not fair. I want to see a Cersei and Melisandre portrait together. The two characters will never cross paths, why not get them to do a picture?

  2. I wonder if this is why that spoiler picture leaked of

    Cersei, Dany and Margery all together…I seem to remember Cersei wearing a red dress in that picture, but I’m not going to bother searching for it

    .
    Not sure if that was a spoiler, but didn’t want to get anyone upset.

  3. “She’s learning the last lesson she needs to learn,” Emilia Clarke says to EW, of her season 6 story. “There’s just few remnants of being a human being she’s shaking off.”
    So cool.

  4. Bravo to whomever had the idea for Sophie to straddle that chair. And now that Brienne has found the 2 Stark girls D and D will probably bypass Nimble Dick…No Nimble Dick we riot!!!

  5. Galli:
    Why is Melisandre always sidelined? They left her out of the Vanity Fair shoot as well. It’s not fair. I want to see a Cersei and Melisandre portrait together. The two characters will never cross paths, why not get them to do a picture?

    I agree that Carice could fit there.Brienne isn’t a queen either, Gwendoline is there because she had this role in Star Wars. It’s kind of unfair to Carice, she is higher billed than Gwen and has more screen time, so it’s not a matter of being less “leading”
    Anyway all the ladies looks beautiful..i can’t wait for the news season.

  6. The two queens pose here with Clarke.

    Khaleesi isn’t a queen?

    Queen of nothing.

    One queen falling, one queen standing, and one queen rising.

  7. Emilia is tiny next to Lena and Natalie! hahaha

    Those pictures are lovely and these ladies are gorgeous
    Girl crushes x 6 🙂

  8. Deesensfan:
    Emilia is tiny next to Lena and Natalie! hahaha

    Those pictures are lovely and these ladies are gorgeous
    Girl crushes x 6

    She is lucky that she is not standing next to Gwendoline.

  9. Weird Sophie pose (they really like her grasping that necklace, don’t they?) with Gwen trying to kick out her chair. That looks awkward.

  10. Pigeon:
    Weird Sophie pose (they really like her grasping that necklace, don’t they?) with Gwen trying to kick out her chair. That looks awkward.

    As seems Natalie’s picture of her searching for lice. So erotic.

  11. They didn’t include Carice van Houten because she’s Dutch. It’s so obvious. If she had an English accent, they would be all over her. She’s considered a minority.

  12. René,

    hahahaha
    so true!

    i’m only couple inches taller than her, but she looks quite small there. gorgeous though

    I love those photos!

  13. This is going to be some season, I can feel it already!

    I really hope Sansa and Brienne do meet up once more. They have to fill the void left by this character some wish was in the show. Somehow, I think they’ll get their wish, but it’ll be with a twist.
    Arya’s almost a certainty to return to Westeros. Perhaps the reason is because of news she overhears concerning Sansa. I’m wondering if going blind opens the door for another Stark to exhibit certain skills.
    The She-Wolves need to re-unite at some point, and the sooner, the better.

  14. Is Dany’s dress trying to fly away? I enjoy these EW shoots but the posing and editing they do to the pictures raise more questions than they should.

  15. Galli:
    They didn’t include Carice van Houten because she’s Dutch. It’s so obvious. If she had an English accent, they would be all over her. She’s considered a minority.

    With that logic the wouldn’t include Nikolaj in magazine photoshoots either, and he was on the cover of Vanity Fair, EW in the past and more.
    I don’t think it has to do with where she is from, they decided to have 6 covers and along with the leads (Dany,Arya,Sansa, Cersei) they choosed Margaery and Brienne because of the roles they had outside GoT, (especially in other popular culture films) Natalie in Hunger Games, and Gwen in Star Wars
    I do think it’s unfair for Carice though.

  16. Beautiful pictures, though I find some of the poses a bit weird. Looks like Lena had to cover up her belly or something.

  17. Making the 8:
    Bravo to whomever had the idea for Sophie to straddle that chair. And now that Brienne has found the 2 Stark girls D and D will probably bypass Nimble Dick…No Nimble Dick we riot!!!

    I actually don’t like that idea, Sansa’s main trait is being ‘A LADY’ and no lady would sit like that…

  18. Maisie is killing it in every picture. For the most part, the pics are kind of weird like they were rushed.

  19. Maggie: I agree that Carice could fit there.Brienne isn’t a queen either, Gwendoline is there because she had this role in Star Wars. It’s kind of unfair to Carice, she is higher billed than Gwen and has more screen time, so it’s not a matter of being less “leading”
    Anyway all the ladies looks beautiful..i can’t wait for the news season.

    Well technically neither are Sansa and Arya (queens)…

    It is unfair to Carice, I would actually put her character above Margery as well, but I guess you can see where the idea of the promo photos were taken – the 3 queens and the 3 underdogs – poised to make a comeback. Guess they couldn’t fit her in their motifs. Would have been nice though.

  20. Maybe they included Brienne because she has more action in S6? Book-wise, POV chapters, Brienne has more than Melisandre. I mean, after Mel returns Jon from his wintry sleep, what’s she going to do? Walk around talking cryptically and being wrong about things? Or ..you know..boobs?

  21. HotPinkLipstick,

    That’s a really unfair comment. I think Carice had created a beautifully complex, ambiguous character. I don’t know why she doesn’t get respect heaped upon bitchface Cersei/Lena and monotonous Emilia/Daenerys.
    Melisandre is a character who is supernatural and we have yet to explore her backstory. How did she survive poison? How does the cold not affect her? How did she birth a monstrous demon? She is the one character who symbolises the metaphysical direction the show is taking. What use is Brienne? Fans are already sick of her killing off their faves.

  22. They look like characters from Dune with those creepy blue eyes. Effects of photoshop, I gather. The picture with the chairs is weird.

  23. Pigeon:
    Weird Sophie pose (they really like her grasping that necklace, don’t they?) with Gwen trying to kick out her chair. That looks awkward.

    Right! I almost expect it to be a weapon at some point. In the other group photo, Brienne and Arya both have their hands on their weapons and Sansa is hold the top of her necklace… her weapon? I hope so, otherwise that necklace is too clunky and weird looking – why would you want a metal spike constantly hitting you … well ‘there’ …

  24. Galli,

    i would have much rather had a melisandre be present than margaery. but fact is that the rest of the female characters are more important than melisandre. all have many more POV chapters and screentime on the show than melisandre

    and Lena and Emilia are the leading and highest paid actresses on the show. no way they would not be included

  25. Galli,

    Uh…what? I said nothing about Carice. I think she’s a fabulous actress. My comments were about Melisandre’s exclusion from the cover promotion and Brienne’s inclusion. While Mel might be interesting, she’s not a main POV character. We aren’t going to get her back story in the show. The show has used her mainly for the nude scenes and she’s been very frank about that. (As opposed to other actresses doing nude scenes. I think she’s done the most.) Melisandre’s story was connected to Stannis, who is gone. And now to Jon, and then it goes…no where.

    This is show promotion and I just don’t see Melisandre having a story arc at all after her resurrection of Jon. Brienne on the other hand, has a story arc and a character theme I think they are going to explore.

  26. That countdown clock at the top of the site is now tantalisingly close to the 20s. Gettin’ real hyped now.

    I’m actually doing a surprisingly good job of not looking at the clock all that often. Time’s not going as excruciatingly slowly as it was last year.

  27. One thing I noticed in the leaked filming photos was Arya seems to be

    escaping from Braavos in the water shots but she didn’t appear to have Needle with her unless we just couldn’t see it which I doubt. If she jumps in the water & gets on a boat, how will she retrieve Needle?
  28. Galli,

    Please keep it civil. There is no reason to start insulting actresses and using terms like bitchface.

    As for the choices, Carice isn’t as well known in the USA as Gwendoline at this point, and Melisandre is firmly a supporting character where as Brienne has been bouncing between supporting and lead for a few seasons. There is also the fact that Melisandre, by many indications, may not have a big role in season 6. It’s not that surprising she wouldn’t be one of the stars they highlight.

    Ember,

    It was never a spoiler picture- it was commonly known to be a photoshoot picture at the time.

  29. I really don’t like these to be honest. They’re trying to modernize the whole thing in this shoot as if this story takes place in real life and real time. I get it, this is a magazine in modern times, but still, I think it’s what causes it to come off as odd. It just doesn’t fit. And the airbrushing is at absurd levels.

  30. James Hibberd from EW says the following on Twitter about Carice:
    “Carice is awesome and we have plans for covering her. This is only the tip of the GoT-berg for our S6 coverage.”

  31. The airbrush work on Natalie seems particularly cartoonish. I don’t get it. I don’t want to blame the photographer, but maybe they had some shitty lighting?

  32. Sue the Fury,

    Melisandre will not have a big role this season? What did Carice van Houten do to deserve that? She has the best character on the entire show, the best backstory and premise… let me get this straight Sue… Melisandre is the only one who is concentrated on the threat beyond the Wall and somehow she’s not important?

  33. Yaga:
    “She’s learning the last lesson she needs to learn,” Emilia Clarke says to EW, of her season 6 story. “There’s just few remnants of being a human being she’s shaking off.”
    So cool.

    Rat Kook:
    That countdown clock at the top of the site is now tantalisingly close to the 20s. Gettin’ real hyped now.

    I’m actually doing a surprisingly good job of not looking at the clock all that often. Time’s not going as excruciatingly slowly as it was last year.

    It’ll be in the 20s tomorrow night 🙂

  34. Sue the Fury,

    “It’s not that surprising she wouldn’t be one of the stars they highlight.”

    Actually Sue, it is surprising. And it’s insulting. I hope Carice knows how much the viewership value her wonderful contributions to the show.

  35. viki: that necklace is too clunky and weird looking

    Yes, that belt-buckle clasp looks totally anachronistic for a medieval costume. I found it really distracting in the ‘Darth Sansa’ scene. It reminds me of the chain belts that girls used to wear circa 1965.

    And it looks like Dany has loaned Brienne her jeggings from that lounging-with-Drogon photo from a couple of seasons back. They still look silly.

  36. lp: the airbrushing is at absurd levels.

    Especially the exaggerated cleavage on Sophie and Natalie…

  37. Jack Bauer 24,

    A joke?

    All the pictures look, for a lack of better word, unatural.
    I am still thrilled to see the GoT ladies on the cover. The picture I like the most is Maisie’s. The wind blowing through her hair, grasping needle. The little wild one.
    The way they have Sophie sitting on the chair I would expect for a promo shoot for Magic Mike or something similar.

  38. Geez, what’s with the hyper-blue airbrushing of Natalie Dormer’s eyes? She looks like one of the Fremen.

  39. RJ:
    Ember,

    Only reason why Dany, Cersei and Margaery are photographed together is because they’re the only 3 queens.

    Sansa is no queen, if you recall Petyr´s (insane and unrealistic) polt involves making Sansa wardeness of the north not a queen….

  40. M,

    Bless the Maker and all his water. Bless the coming and going of him. May his passing cleanse the world. May he keep the world for his people.

  41. Newbietothegame: The way they have Sophie sitting on the chair I would expect for a promo shoot for Magic Mike or something similar.

    Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I like all the photos and Sophie has turned into a gorgeous young lady. The mag is trying to appeal to its pop culture demographic. Although I can agree the airbrushing is over the top. These women are all different and kick ass in their own individual ways.

  42. Can’t they just let them look natural ffs? So sick of this obsession with so-called “perfection” that these awful pop culture magazines have. The outfits look great but the actresses all look so unnatural, like they are literal “models” of human beings. When are we going to just accept that people look the way they do… and “beauty” never lasts anyway.

  43. I remember one interview of Michelle Clapton who says that Sansa’s necklace is her “Needle”. Dany will lost all of her humanity !!! That doesn’t look good !!!!

  44. I hate to break this to some people here, but it’s not too hard to read in between the lines as to why we aren’t seeing Carice van Houten doing a lot of promotional material for the show this season (and even that’s not entirely true- she just did a rather hilarious sketch on Seth Meyers’ show similar to what Kit Harington did in the past). I think it’s pretty obvious that

    Melisandre likely gives up her life to resurrect Jon Snow- allowing her to atone for her sacrificing Shireen for a false vision- but that’s just me. It’s a logical end for her character arc, and I don’t really see a lot for her to do after Jon is brought back from the dead

    .

  45. Schwing!

    Aside from Margot Robbie, Sophie Turner might be the sexiest woman on the planet.

    Not digging Lena Headey with that short haired wig, it’s not a very flattering look for her.

  46. Oh dear! Even Maisie did not escape the excess photoshopping in this picture. Why, EW, why do you need to do this to six naturally beautiful women?

    “She’s learning the last lesson she needs to learn,” Emilia Clarke says to EW, of her season 6 story. “There’s just few remnants of being a human being she’s shaking off.”

    So at the end of Season 6, Daenerys emerges in full-on dragon mode, then? Her ancestor, Aegon-like? Me likey!

  47. So Dany is learning the last lessons she needs to learn…before finally heading to Westeros?

  48. are we getting back to darth sansa this season ??

    hope so, sansa the victim was done to death

  49. RBloodworth,

    I’ve been thinking the same thing ever since I saw the trailer. There are two problems, though:

    1. She said to Arya that they would meet again. Could be a mistake – she’s made a few – but she can’t have been wrong all the time.
    2. She saw herself walking around in Winterfell. Same as above – why would she see that if it weren’t true to some extend? But then, maybe it’s her life force walking around there in the form of Jon Snow.

    .
    Kay,
    Not sure if me likey.
    To be fair, I’m not the greatest fan of Emilia Clarke, as I think her acting is a bit monotone. But I accept that that may be a choice on the actress’s part as she is striving to come across as regal. So I hope losing her humanity means not going full robot (which I would hate) but instead becoming a passionate, ruthless warrior with more obvious (but not over-the-top or one-note) emotions.

  50. HotPinkLipstick:
    M,

    Bless the Maker and all his water. Bless the coming and going of him. May his passing cleanse the world. May he keep the world for his people.

    “Four things cannot be hidden — love, smoke, a pillar of fire and a man striding across the open bled.”

  51. W T F is this BS??? Euron is going to make them all his batches, anyway. All hail the IRON KING!

  52. dee: Kay,
    Not sure if me likey.
    To be fair, I’m not the greatest fan of Emilia Clarke, as I think her acting is a bit monotone.

    Hey! I never said that you or anyone else have to “likey”! 😉 Also me likey that Daenerys may shed her last human weaknesses is no commentary at all on what I think of the actress or her acting abilities (which, btw, I think are quite OK). I, personally, am ready to see a female leading an army with dragons, ending slavery and “breaking the wheel.” Of course, not everyone’s cuppa.

  53. What is Emilia Clarke trying to say exactly? Dany is learning her final lesson this season, which will eventually leave her without any traces of a human being? So she’s going full Targaryen and declares herself a god or what?

  54. Charley,

    I’ve been wondering the same thing, and thought that was a bizarre comment. Hint at a “mad” Dany?? Probably not, but that’d be vurryyy intradesting…..

  55. RBloodworth,

    You don’t see a purpose for a character that has been going on and on about the darkness coming for everyone ever since she showed up?
  56. I think Emilia meant Dany will finally embrace her house words. The Dany conqueror will finally be back. No Mhysa when she heads to Westeros. Full Fire and Blood and I love it.

  57. FreeParking,

    I would certainly want a fire priestess on my side if I had to fight a bunch of ice creatures and I do hope that Mel sticks around until the end.

    But, IF a certain Snow is actually Azor Ahai and IF LongClaw becomes Lightbringer — “when the stars bleed and the cold winds blow, a warrior shall draw from the fire a burning sword. That sword will be Lightbringer. The one who draws it will be Azor Ahai reborn.” — Mel has said that the fires burn within her, so maybe she does sacrifice herself.

    I think that will happen well after he has been brought back though…another big aha moment later in the series.

  58. <
    Kargaryen,

    Well said, that’s more than likely it. I wish she would’ve phrased it a bit more like you did, lol, but regardless…I’m so past ready to see her head west!

  59. Ok on second thought given the choice to have Lena’s dress or Gwendoline’s armor I would totally choose the armor. How badass does she look in that?? They all look amazing. Great photos!

  60. Hoyti Von Totiy: I ment Nathalie Emmanuel, the biggest hottie on the show.

    IKR? Where is Diana Rigg? The Queen of Hot Sauce and a Games dame if there ever was one.

    Where is Hannah Murray? Where is Hannah Waddingham? Where is the outrage for the Hannahs? The insolence? The Hannah indignation?

    I don’t know. Maybe it just might be possible that they can’t feature everyone and so they chose some of the top females, one of whom might have had slightly lower billing than one who was not chosen. Mountains and molehills.

  61. Cackling at some of these comments. Sure the retouching is OTT, but a brilliant idea to focus on the ladies of GoT, who are amongst the most compelling in the show. Also gives an opportunity for Sophie, Natalie and Gwen to have their own EW covers, don’t think any of them have had ones prior to this, right?

    Hype is real!!!

  62. Kay,

    Mad Queen confirmed. In all honesty I don’t blame her and many people will saw her as Mad one and daughter of Aerys that is really taking no shit from anyone. We already saw shades of Aerys with Daeny.

  63. Geralt of Rivia,

    Don’t jump on the gun yet.. Aerys and Viserys were no dragons and they were “mad”. Aegon I was a “dragon” and he was perfectly sane. My understanding from Emilia’s words is that she will finally become a true “dragon” just like Aegon was.

  64. Geralt of Rivia,

    Where did you see that … If characterd like tywin did like that they will call him as ruthless not mad….only reason there is a mad queen theory is because her father was one…..we already have a mad Queen in cersei ..

    After sacrificing for the peace anr giving to the masters their wish she is now going to take a stand …ehich is no different than what Aegon l did

  65. Geralt of Rivia:
    Kay,

    Mad Queen confirmed. In all honesty I don’t blame her and many people will saw her as Mad one and daughter of Aerys that is really taking no shit from anyone. We already saw shades of Aerys with Daeny.

    Umm… you did? I didn’t, not on the show that is. I have seen PLENTY of Daenerys-is-mad-like-daddy assertions on the interwebs, though! 😉 Nah….. she isn’t going mad – I don’t think so. She will be completely toughened up by the end of the season – no more weakness, no more trying to placate groups of people who will never be placated. No more slaves and owners, or nobles enjoying life while the masses toil and live miserable lives. She has been given the gift of dragons; she better not waste that gift, but use it to change the world forever.

  66. Kay,

    Yep, I did.

    As Daeny it’s hard to say this or even acknowledge this. I’ve seen comments like this. Shades of Aerys is nothing unusual or bad. She’s not like going full Aerys on everyone but she has tendencies to push things really hard and doing questionable things, but D&D would never let her favourite character being a clear villain when you have White Walkers there as big bad. It’s more of a black and white with them, while in the books not sure White Walkers are that bad but who knows.

    She’s losing all of her humanity maybe means like really turing herself into Fire&Blood style where people might not apreciate it and hopefully it’s not going to be easy work for her to win people over in Westeros. Threatening them might or might not work.

  67. Geralt of Rivia,

    Nowhere does she say she’s “losing all her humanity”. If there’s anything consistent about Dany it’s that she’s always been kind, especially to her people. And that’s the opposite of what the Mad King ever was.

  68. El-Bobbie,

    Doesn’t matter, what she said is close enough. Called this last year and it was shot down by a couple of her supporters. She will hit a rough patch and the mad Targ trait will manifest itself. I think she’ll redeem herself somehow at the end though.

  69. Charley,

    She goes mad, as in power-hungry ruthless type of mad. I could tell it was heading in that direction. Also I believe her and Jon end up against each other, at least for a period of time. Not many agree but I’m sticking by it.

  70. Geralt of Rivia,

    So you are saying that its confirmed she will become Mad by the words of actress who represent the role in the show and then goes to claim that D&D wont do this to their favorite character ..if they are not doing it then how come emilia makes that statement that you took as a confirmation as her turning mad .
    again am lost whenever someone tries to say that WW are not the real bad and 16 year old girl is the Ultimate bad who will be overthrown by the starks with the help of WW

    Ygritte,

    you call lot of things without anything to back up or without even knowing the full facts sometimes ..

    let me put it this out again : being harsh ruthless and doing questionable things doesnt mean one is Mad..that is what Aegon did ..that is what tywin did …that is what stannis did…that is what theon stark did ..that is what Bloodraven did…that is what daemon did …i can go on and on …No one called them mad ….if it was a stark all will be calling for how she acts as true Kings of Winter

  71. dragonbringer,

    “you call lot of things without anything to back up or without even knowing the full facts sometimes”

    That’s because I have psychic abilities. 🙂 You give examples of the other power hungry players and say they couldn’t be considered “mad.” Fair enough, perhaps that’s the wrong word. BUT I think there will be a difference in the fact that Dany will be operating from a place of mental and/or emotional instability as opposed to one of just sheer determination and shrewdness. The Targaryen madness will take over for awhile but I do think that in the end she finds herself again, in some way.

    Or not 🙂

  72. El-Bobbie,

    Boring? GRRM might not think so. And there are plenty of other characters who aren’t Starks that won’t go mad. Besides, I’m not saying that I WANT Daenerys to, just that it’s a route I could see them take with her.

  73. El-Bobbie,

    The Stark’s can never go wrong or bad even if they ally with WW it will be to take down this mad Queen ..

    Let’s forget about cersei for a minute and think father is mad brother is mad and sister also mad…what a nice storytelling right not to mention Grrm making one of the characters hide his self for over a book to know about whether she is worthy or not to serve or having taint or not

  74. Ygritte,

    yeah fighting over slavery does not make her determined but power hungry and mentally unstable ..

    Again Grrm didnt spend one book having a character hide his identity to check whether she has any taint or worthy to serve …same with show with Tyrion seeing whether she is worthy to serve and not mad ..

    you see that because her father and brother was one right ..what about the grandson and nephew will he show some of his aunts trait as well

  75. dragonbringer:

    “yeah fighting over slavery does not make her determined but power hungry and mentally unstable”

    Never said that. She’s not mentally unstable when she begins fighting against slavery.

    “Again Grrm didnt spend one book having a character hide his identity to check whether she has any taint or worthy to serve …same with show with Tyrion seeing whether she is worthy to serve and not mad”

    To whom are you referring hides their identity, Jorah? Didn’t she know his name? At any rate that doesn’t matter because since he’s been serving her she’s been alright. And even if she were starting to be a little “off” love blinds people to things….

    “you see that because her father and brother was one right ..what about the grandson and nephew will he show some of his aunts trait as well”

    I’m not sure, maybe that does subconciously come into play. The fact that madness runs in the family and the conversation where she tells Barristan that she is not her father. But it’s not the only thing. There are subtle hints by way of her demeanor in the show. To clarify, I don’t think she will go mad and stay crazy like her papa but more like she’ll snap and do things she ends up regretting.

  76. El-Bobbie,

    Come to think of it, with D&D version it will probably not be the path they take with her. It seems they like the character too much. Though George could in the books.

  77. Ygritte,

    iam talking about Barristan …he didnt reaveal his identity in the books ..what about Tyrion in the show

    “To clarify, I don’t think she will go mad and stay crazy like her papa but more like she’ll snap and do things she ends up regretting.”

    isnt that what humans normally do ..that makes her human not mad

    “Come to think of it, with D&D version it will probably not be the path they take with her. It seems they like the character too much. Though George could in the books.”

    again with this ..
    so if they love her so much then how come you a show watcher alone called she will be going mad months ago …because of your psychic ablities.how come emilia statement confirms dany turning mad if D&D dont use it in the show

    again dany was not like viserys on qarth she was a begger in the books not entitled brat like in the show…No one ever came saying one of the father crucified is innocent in the books …no one was burnt by dany in the books..the whole arc of ADWD was her refusing to use dragons ..there was no slaves turning against her in the books like the show ..there was no her forcing hizdar into a marriage in the books..

    so much for likeness

    Ok i want to know this did D&D ever say she was their favorite character…george did say that …

  78. dragonbringer,

    If D&D had followed dany’s arc in Qarth and in Meereen from the books she would have even more people rooting for her actually (show watchers). Idk how anyone can say they did what they did because they like her. Those were most negative changes for the character.

  79. dragonbringer,

    I never heard George say Dany was favorite so that has no bearing on what I think but wait…so you say… “how come emilia statement confirms dany turning mad if D&D dont use it in the show”…. then you admit she herself is confirming it? So why do you argue with the theory still? As for snapping and regretting things being a normal human quality, that is true, but only to a certain extent. Hauling off and punching a bully because you’re fed up and not gonna take it anymore and then getting suspended for it, yeah. Having your dragons reign fire down on cities in order to “break a wheel” because you yourself want to be the only spoke on it, or otherwise committing murder and mayhem while there’s no apparent threat to your person, is a form of “madness” imo. That’s if it plays out with Dany in this way of course.

  80. Ygritte,

    That quote up above is not the full quote Emilia gave. In EW, the full quote pretty much comes across like Dany is finally getting her shit together, not falling apart into madness. Emilia says Dany finally “knows what’s what” and she’s shaking off her mistakes, mistakes made because she’s human.

    And Dany never said she was going to break the wheel so she could be the only spoke. She included Targaryens in that wheel because she knows they’ve also been part of the problem.

  81. Kargaryen,

    You don’t know how anyone can say it, yet that assumes everyone has read the books and know the difference. Anyways, I’m done with the Daenerys conversation. I don’t care if the speculation turns out right or wrong because it’s just a diversion, and since I’m not as informed as the sullied folk it’s pointless.

    I really only care about Jon right now to be honest lol. I’m fan-girling all over again after seeing that Rolling Stone vid with Kit smoking-hot Harington (and Alfie) that came on after Liam. It’s old, but new to me 🙂

  82. Ygritte,

    Right .

    So you didn’t hear about GRRm said …but where did you hear about D&D say that dany was their favorite …since you claimed it where is the proof…

    Iam not the one who used Emilia’s comment as confirmatiom to dany becoming mad or used the show knowledge alone to say she will become mad ..and then go on to claim the show will not do that since they like her but George will do …you did that

    Another show only dialogue …i think you missed the whole point of her adding her own house to the spokes ..
    What great cities they arr training soldiers where each have to kill a baby to become one and one out of three boys succeed in the process..or having boys fight in the pits covered with honey so the bear can eat them or lion can eat them….absolutely no cause to fight at all….or westeros where everyone is fighting with themselves and making the small folks suffer and made an easy target for the WW to hit ..only dany brings the war others bring roses and candies right…

  83. Ygritte,

    Right .

    So you didn’t hear about GRRm said …but where did you hear about D&D say that dany was their favorite …since you claimed it where is the proof…

    Iam not the one who used Emilia’s comment as confirmatiom to dany becoming mad or used the show knowledge alone to say she will become mad ..and then go on to claim the show will not do that since they like her but George will do …you did that

    Another show only dialogue …i think you missed the whole point of her adding her own house to the spokes ..
    What great cities they arr training soldiers where each have to kill a baby to become one and one out of three boys succeed in the process..or having boys fight in the pits covered with honey so the bear can eat them or lion can eat them….absolutely no cause to fight at all….or westeros where everyone is fighting with themselves and making the small folks suffer and made an easy target for the WW to hit ..only dany brings the war others bring roses and candies right…
    No reason to fight at all ..and ruin all this peacefull lands …

  84. dragonbringer,

    Here you go:

    “This season it feels like she’s learning the last lesson she needs to learn. She’s not being swayed by anyone. She knows what’s what. There’s just a few remnants of being a human being she’s shaking off.”

    Basically, she’s done making mistakes.

  85. El-Bobbie,

    She can be cruel and vicious. If you want to ignore that fine and D&D made her more like cold and ruthless person and now with Dothraki she’ll just go full Fire&Blood on everyone, losing pieces of humanity she’s got left. Not becoming Aerys, that was more Viserys but stop being nice and do bussiness which I’m kinda glad.

  86. Geralt and Ygritte certainly aren’t the only ones who have detected signs of Dany possibly going down the ‘Mad Targ’ road. The reference to shaking off the last remnants of being a human being does seem to suggest that she may end up as the Caligula of Westeros, claiming divine status. Seems more likely than her warging a dragon, anyway (another possible way for her to become non-human). If all Emilia means is that Dany is going to lose all self-doubt and go into permanent imperious mode, I will find the character (and her portrayal) even duller and more irritating than I already do.

    The fact that both GRRM and D & D seem to regard Dany as an end-game player would seem to argue against her turning totally dark, but we shall see what we shall see. I’m just sorry that Barristan was killed off so early, because if it’s anyone’s job to take out a hypothetical Mad Dany, it would be his.

  87. Crack theory, D&D have set it up for Dany to go mad and for Tyrion to kill her in order to save Jaime.

  88. Ygritte:
    dragonbringer,

    I never heard George say Dany was favorite so that has no bearing on what I think but wait…so you say… “how come emilia statement confirms dany turning mad if D&D dont use it in the show”…. then you admit she herself is confirming it? So why do you argue with the theory still? As for snapping and regretting things being a normal human quality, that is true, but only to a certain extent. Hauling off and punching a bully because you’re fed up and not gonna take it anymore and then getting suspended for it, yeah. Having your dragons reign fire down on cities in order to “break a wheel” because you yourself want to be the only spoke on it, or otherwise committing murder and mayhem while there’s no apparent threat to your person, is a form of “madness” imo. That’s if it plays out with Dany in this way of course.

    George saying Daenerys is 2nd/3rd favorite character.

  89. Firannion,

    And anyone who had read his POV should know what he actually thinks about the real dany and not hypothetical one…

    HotPinkLipstick,

    And then Jamie will cut tyrion up making him the quarter man ..
    They set up this too..

    Jay Targ,

    Thank you for that .
    Iam still waiting for this so called D&D favorite is dany …

  90. dragonbringer: Firannion,

    And anyone who had read his POV should know what he actually thinks about the real dany and not hypothetical one…

    As of where the books left off, Barristan is devoted to her, yes. But that could change, depending on a number of variables. If Septa Lemore turns out to be a still-living Ashara Dayne (as many have speculated), and she and Barristan meet again, he could conceivably be wooed to Young Griff’s camp – especially if Dany’s behavior becomes more, shall we say, alarming.

    Of course it’s hypothetical. Between books and between seasons are the times when we amuse ourselves with hypotheticals. For me, the prospect of Dany ruling Westeros and living happily ever after is so uninteresting a potential endgame that I feel driven to consider alternatives, however flimsy the evidence so far.

  91. Firannion: Looks like Bran’s vision of the Night’s King grabbing his arm turns into Bloodraven grabbing his shoulder, or vice versa…

    I don’t think so. That’s a vision too. Notice the outfits; Bran wears his classic Winterfell look in visions, yet in real life he has lots of furs on top of his usual clothes. The same goes for the Three-eyed Raven, presumably (unless he suddenly has short hair in real life; I expect that will only be the case in visions). Also, the rock in the background is from the Tower of Joy location.

  92. Jay Targ,

    Thats great, I dont really care. Many people have alluded to Dany being “a” favorite of D and D over the years. Theres no way to go back and find their posts for “proof” of something that isnt important. I knew that Tyrion was George 1st.

  93. Some people take too much offense to simple speculation about a fictional piece of work if it doesnt match their views or what they hope will happen. Its all in fun. Its not real life. Get a grip.

  94. Ygritte,

    Some people can’t back up with what they said about a character they don’t like….biased anyone ..

    If they dont want others to come and defend the arguments made against the character they like …then people should stop speculating about the character they don’t like and simply continue their focus on drooling on the character they like or the actor that portrays the character…and talk about getting a life why bother commenting on something you don’t even like ..if I don’t like something I don’t talk about it ..I’d simply not ignore it ..

  95. dragonbringer,

    I said I was done discussing this because I could sense you were no longer being very amicable but I’d like to respond to a couple things you recently wrote:

    ” Some people can’t back up with what they said about a character they don’t like….biased anyone ..”

    And I’d like to say to you that in regards to unbiased theories and speculation it makes no DIFFERENCE whether I like a character or not. I don’t hate Dany! But even if I did, it has no bearing on where I think her writers might be heading with her arc. Besides, I can’t believe you speak of “bias”…. tell me you don’t have any?…… at any rate I don’t feel the need to back up an “opinion,” or a tone I might have picked up on from others over the course of 2 years.

    And you also say:

    “If they dont want others to come and defend the arguments made against the character they like…”

    You really felt you needed to defend an argument I made against the character? I don’t understand. I was speculating on her future arc/end game. Not calling her names, not insulting her, not saying I hate her, not “wishing” anything bad upon her. Maybe this will help you put things into perspective: My favorite character is Jon Snow. I “love” him just as much as you love Daenerys. BUT I have openly speculated, or worried about, what if they resurrect and he ends up being a ruthless shell of a man that has no resemblance to the qualities Jon always had. See how that works? I’ve read negative, a few even mean-spirited comments about him but I don’t take it seriously. I won’t get snarky with them over it by thinking everything they say comes from a place of “JonHate.” I won’t be able to change their opinion, and ya know what, it doesn’t really bother me if someone doesn’t like him! He’s not REAL.

  96. dragonbringer,

    I didn’t say “get a life.” I think that would be rude and I try not to be rude. I said “It’s not real life.” And trust me, I can “drool” over a character, and as you say the actor who plays him, and still have energy left over to wonder about the other’s journeys in this comprehensive story thank you very much 🙂

  97. That dark Sansa dress proved one thing: she can design the hell out of a dress. But, that’s about it.

  98. Firannion,

    Barristan couldn’t even take out the trash without help. He’s one of those men built up to be spectacular, but turn out to be a spectacular failure. Or, maybe when I met him, he was just old and tired.

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