A new preview clip from next Sunday’s Game of Thrones episode “Kill the Boy” has turned up online after originally airing on the OSN network.
The preview features a Bolton family dinner. Spoilers, naturally!
In other news, it looks like the title of episode 9 may have been tucked into the coding of the HBO website already. A redditor posted today a link to the coding page for episode 9, which along with the usual casting/credits information includes a title.
The apparent title? “The Dance of Dragons.” It’s a slight twist on the title of the fifth book in the A Song of Ice and Fire series, A Dance with Dragons.
Click for spoilers.
Assuming this is legit, what do you think of the title? It’s always great to have a nice book reference in there.
UPDATE: A source has confirmed for me that this is the real thing. “The Dance of Dragons” for episode 9!
Pfffft, this is so two hours ago.
Step your game up, Sue.
Holy crap Fat Walda!!!
I guess my question would be: What type of dance will the dragons be performing? I’m hoping it’s a jive, but I have a strong suspicion they may go with the typical interpretive artsy fartsy stuff.
Also, Walda’s days just got numbered, methinks.
Is it just me or does Sansa look exactly like Jeyne Poole did, way back when? (hairstyle, color and collar)
Well … I guess I won’t be joining discussions until after episode 5 airs!!!
I have only myself to blame but that OSN “Behind the Scenes” clip revealed alot of information and I’m mad that HBO let that get out to various video media outlets BEFORE the episode even screened!!!
I’m only human and dangling Roose, Ramsey, Walda, Sansa and Theon before me was too much to resist.
Ugh!
I loved walda ;_;
RIP Fat Walda.
ricochet,
Actually it’s similar to the outfit Catelyn wore in S3. In fact that high collar is identical. A nice homage to her mother.
JP Dayne,
I knowww. ;_;
All one scene with her included…
Sansa’s hairstyle this year is identical to Catelyn’s
Renly’s Peach,
I did a double take at first. I thought it was Jeyne.
Can’t wait for Sansa and Reek to run into each other for the first time.
“Oh look, the pie!”
— Fat Walda’s last words?
To add: Iwan Rheon does such a fantastic job as Ramsay. Comes off so subtly creepy and sadistic
This is another quick way to refute the reports from 4chan,
Not that we didn’t know about it beforehand, but now it’s a “confirmation”. He might be right, but some things are still off.
‘The Dance Of Dragons’? D&D, you rascals! Always having to alter phrases from the books, no matter how slightly. You couldn’t just add another ‘the’ after ‘of’?
ricochet,
Yes, the outfit and styling is similar to Jeyne’s look. Traditional Northern look perhaps? I’m a little worried about the lovely Walda. Something nasty is happening in WF and I’m not quite sure what it will be?
As far as the episode title…
Yung Wolf,
Bold prediction here:
ace,
It works now, thanks!
Apparently the ruins are Valyria, which makes me believe that is a statue and not a stone man.
steve,
I think that this is entirely possible.
The question is – who would be the one to divulge this information?
I love how Ramsay says “Reek!” Also, I’m so incredibly excited for this whole storyline, just terrified to see what will happen to Sansa.
Here’s a direct link for anyone interested.
http://www.osn.com/OSN/media/OSN/CDN/Videos/GAMEOFTHRONE-may6.mp4
It contains spoilers for E5, so click at your own risk.
ace,
Gahhhhhhhhh! !!!!!!
Also, to hear Aemon say it!
I notice that OCN doesn’t even mention the Mannis in their list of characters, and gurgles something about Mance and Jon striking a deal in season 4. Was this what being thrown down the memory hole in Soviet times was like?
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2pd8yv
Wow!
Notice at 4.08 in the video, the figure in the top left corner that moves behind Tyrion. What the heck is that?
Here Be Dragons,
Spoiler tag your post so it doesn’t get deleted again.
Nevermind, I see it now. I was talking about the one at 3:15. STONE MEN CONFIRMED!
Trystane will be revealed as Aegon in this episode. Toby Sebastian is listed in the episode. Dance of the Dragons is what will happen in Book 6/7 between him and Dany. It has to be then.
Yung Wolf,
I just don’t seem to get spoiler tags rite so I deleted my own post ! lol
Tori Targaryen,
YASSSS
The behind the scenes video confirms the
in episode 5, you can see one stand up in the background at the end of the video.
Holy crap….I just thought the boat was moving, but that’s scary as hell.
Yung Wolf,
No big mystery… when I see I’ve failed yet again to spoiler tag my post, I just backspace the whole comment and press “save”
I used to have the “spoiler” tag figured out but lost the knack this year. lol
Here Be Dragons,
You can delete your own posts? Do tell.
I just went forward in time and asked you how to do something in the past. Boom. 😉
You just add [ spoiler ] to the beginning of your post and [ /spoiler ] to the end of it without the spaces. Not that confusing, I don’t think.
Yung Wolf,
I did wonder how you managed that and just assumed you were a moderator …or a wizard! 🙂
steve,
Sean C.,
I thought Steve’s version makes for great TV and a good cliffhanger.
If Melissandre can find Gendry in the middle of the Riverlands with no knowledge of his whereabouts… I could swallow she knows how to see this in her flames.
Yeah that baby news is going to go over just great …
OMG Samwell Tarly does NOT seem to be happy about SNOWs deal with Tormund (he only likes Gilly)
Hmmm. Will Sansa kill Fat Walda?
Oh my, I’m super excited for next episode now, lot’s of great stuff coming. <3
The only thing – my personal taste probably – what I kind of didn't like:
Kyrion,
There’s no Aegon plot. This storyline would unnecessarily confuse everything in the show.
Tori Targaryen,
Gotta say I called this as soon as I saw the ep5 preview Sunday night.
Also, for future reference, I’m calling that one of the last scenes of the season is a reveal of Jorah having contracted greyscale. :(((
I do spoilers the easy (or lazy) way, I copy and paste the start spoiler code from the top
– type what I am going to say, then before I submit the comment I go back to the example spoiler tag and copy/paste the end spoiler tag. It may be a very low tech method but it works. As show Ramsay has been legitimised now would Walda’s child be a threat to his position? I thought not.
gewa76,
Am I the only one who read the cast names from the coding of Episode #9, there’s some interesting names I wasn’t expecting in Episode 9 (by the looks of it there’s going to be no single focus, it’s jam packed with a hell of a lot of people). Which means the longest time we’ll spend with any major character is going to be 15 minutes at best.
Mustafa. S.,
What unexpected names are in the cast list for it? I can’t read code, you see…
Just spoiler-code your answers, I guess.
Inside the episode “Kill the boy” video
(Why has this been released already? Hbo screwed up again?)
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2pd8yv_got_tv#from=embediframe
Mustafa. S.,
The names in the code are not the names of the cast for the ep, it’s the names of the whole cast + Dornish team as seen in all the Eps in the schedule.
All the main cast is listed in the codepage for episode 9.
So I wouldnt give any credit there, it’s just the beta-page with no modifications to the main cast list yet.
I dont even think the cast listed on HBO for the episodes to come in May has been altered to fit the real cast appearances.
So there is no Cersei and King’s Landing or Jaime or Dorne in episode 5? I checked on imbd and it does not mention Lena Headey, Nikolaj or Natalie Dormer etc in the cast and crew. I was hoping we Littlefinger or Lady Olenna Tyrell would have arrive in King’s Landing and would feature in this episode! 🙁 A little less excited now about episode 5!
I found out about this but didn’t tell anyone
Dame of Mercia,
That worked for me
Thank you Dame 🙂
Absolutely cannot WAIT to see Theon/Reek and Sansa interact! It’s what I’ve been most excited about from the massive book changes. Only a few days now!
FAT WALDA!
I had goosebumps just reading the ep.9 title.
About spoiler code: You need to use [ ] not triangle brackets like for bold or italics. It is kind of confusing and doesn’t always seem to work.
gewa76,
Are we sure thats Drogon and not just an illusion? Also Jorah will definitely be the one who catches Greyscale.
Damn. I had the book title for episode 9. So close
steve,
wizardeyes,
I like this bold prediction.
so what if in the show all three dragons appear in the daznak and fly away with their mother to the dothraki sea .
and this scene will be a callback to season 1 ending but only difference is now dany will be on the shoulder of Drogon
what do you guys think
Why would the episode title has a double meaning?
Only The Chlidren had that.
The Mountain and the Viper, The Lion and the Rose, The Rains of Castamere, Mhysa, Blackwater, Baelor,….
All these titles had only one meaning.
HelloThere,
Are they complaining about
Makes perfect sense to me.
One thing I’ve wondered about the change of the Stone Men from Chroyane to Valyria:
Are they really complaining about a butchered “Westeros” geography while Tyrion and Jorah are in Essos? LOL (not to mention that nothing about the geography has been changed, anyways)
Why would they be? Tyrion and Varys went overland from Pentos to Volantis (there’s a road along the Rhone I’d guess), and were presumably planning on taking a ship around Valyria and into Slaver’s Bay. Jorah’s little dinghy cannot venture so far out to sea, so he is hugging the coast despite the (mythical?) dangers of Valyria. This seems an entirely reasonable approach geographically, and from a show perspective, it is a great move as we get to see Valyria (obviously important to the story) rather than some place that is interesting but of minor note in the books and has never been mentioned at all in the TV series. This is a perfect example of a reasonable and positive change made in adapting something from the books to TV – essentially condensing two sets into one. Bravo to D&D for this choice.
? Jeyne never was on the show.
steve,
There is no particular reason to think that
After all, B&W never add major supporting characters until the supporting character becomes relevant to the story and/or plot(s). Now, it might be that they are going to cut this from the show in order to streamline the plot – from what we can glean of the story and plots of Winter, it will be a major impetus but not the sole impetus for the tale – but it is essentially a negative evidence argument at this point to state that this plotline is cut completely. We have exactly what we expect given both the “it’s cut” and “it’s in” conjectures.
(And, yes, I know that Conlieth Hill said that it was cut: but that could only refer to this season [Five] as the actors are not told what will happen next season [Six]; indeed, as many of the actors have made clear, they are not told what happens in this season for plotlines in which they are not involved: they find out from each other.)
I’ve not had any internet access for a week so I’m back again with no less than 3 off topic things to say/ask about:
1. Tormund’s Woman are you lurking? I got cut off before I’d finished telling you about Sansa’s necklace.
2. Some questions for the sullied about the Faith Militant (FM)
Now I know why I don’t usually join in with what might happen speculation, there are just too many possibilities for my tiny mind to cope with >.<
Where I work FM is facilities management, so the Faith Militant would provide you with a religious policing service and organise an engineer if the photocopier breaks down. Perhaps that's why Cersei likes them, they have the keys to the stationary cupboard. Power indeed! ;O)
3. Public Service Announcement: if you're a fellow UK watcher aged 18 or over and you haven't done so already GO AND VOTE! Yes I know most of them are probably self-serving nitwits who you wouldn't trust to run a bath, never mind a country, but someone has to form a govt. If you think they're all awful, just pick the least worst. As someone who's studied political and social history I can tell you the availability of one person one vote in a non-corrupt, free election is something hard fought for and still denied to huge swathes of the world's population. Rant over, as you were! :O)
In what way is Valyria be important to the stories? Heck, it is not even important to any of the plots. It’s just narrative background of the sort that books need in the same way that cinema needs props and costumes. (This is a classic book vs. screen difference: books have to have this stuff, cinema has to avoid this stuff.)
That written, Valyria does offer the chance to be visually interesting – fog is notorious for being cinematically dull – and they’ve definitely hung a stone men gun on the wall that needs to be fired this season.
But… but… you are in the U.K. It is well known in the US that that democracy exists only here: you people are still under a dictatorial monarch, right? I’m quite sure that one (white preferably male person), one vote is US only: it’s in my Texan History Book…..
[/sarcasm]
Seriously, good luck with the election. And, yes: go out and vote, UKer’s! Your country is still enormously important in the larger world.
Lulu’s Mum,
Incidentally, regarding your conjecture: I suspect that if said party does “confess,” then it will be a religious confession, and thus considered to be outside of secular law. That might then lead to that things for which some major (and flabby) guns already have been hung (and sagging) this year…..
Aaah so people can be sneaky and ‘fess up to stuff but not get into trouble for it, even while punishing others for the same kind of thing? Sounds like hedging your bets to me! As for voting, yeah it’s amazing they let women vote, minority ethnic groups, the LGBT community, trade union members, atheists all sorts! We don’t even have to do some kind of backhander deal. Just register and vote – it’s crazyness, we might even end up with a govt who somehow represent all of society, not just a small elite :O)
The Targaryens arose from Valyria, and as the story is about them as much as anyone, I fail to see why their ancient homeland and the chances it will provide to organically give some backstory is not a positive step. They are combining this with the otherwise unimportant Sorrows so they can fire the Stone Men gun, which is obviously being set up as something important. Isn’t combining two things into one a major part of creating an adaptation in the case that the medium is forcing you to make significant cuts? Moving the Stone Men to Valyria does not contradict anything else in the TV-universe, and the route Tyrion and Jorah are taking is sensible, so this seems a perfectly fine and logical change to me.
Chad Brick,
“The Dance of Dragons” isn’t a twist on the name of the fifth book, it’s the name of the civil war between Rhaenyra I and Aegon II in 129AC.
RUN WALDA. RAMSAY ISN’T CERTIFIED TO BE A BABYSITTER IN THE LEAST BIT.
Without giving anything away, the title does indeed have a double meaning in the episode… 🙂
Pearse,
For the show’s purposes it’s a twist on the name of the 5th book and not the Targaryen civil war. The major scene will likely be
Simeon,
Tyrion finding the
was always a head theory of mine. Glad someone else is thinking along those lines. Would be interesting to see what he does with it if he does in fact find it.
I added an update to the post– I double-checked with a source to be sure (though I figured that the HBO website coding thing was legit) and the title is definitely “The Dance of Dragons.” Changed the post title to reflect that.
Pearse,
To put it delicately, viewers don’t give a hoot about that. I know people who have read the books who wouldn’t remember that. The title that will sound familiar is the oft-mentioned in pop culture now A Dance with Dragons, and I think this is a clear homage to the book title (and whatever is happening in the episode, obviously).
Jeyne Poole was on episode 1×1.
And what an egotistical, bizarre, ridiculous war it was. The Targs couldn’t be saved from themselves. With great power comes great irresponsibility.
I honestly would like to know what GRRM thinks of that title, since the use of “with” and “of” mean different things in the lore. A nitpick…yes…but worth mentioning.
I am already expecting the “Kill the Boy” monologue by Aemon to be one of my favorite moments of the entire series.
kdenn1020,
I have nothing but the strongest opposite opinion, I think he’s the worst thing about the show and plays Ramsey like a pantomime baddy “HE’s BEHIND YOU!!!”
Me and my friends all call the show version ‘Hamsey Snow’, it’s just too cartoonish I can’t stand it. Nothing like the book, which is fine, but come on man, this? We have to watch this?
Bogden,
If I remember , your information about the Hardhome were correct!
mau,
Yes, unlike some other people who claim to have spoilers but never back it up or always leave it vague, I can actually verify that Bogden is the real deal and trustworthy.
Lulu’s Mum,
My entire Facebook feed is “Yes Equality” profile pics, so for a moment I thought “Why are the Brits voting in our gay marriage referendum?”
Wimsey,
Let’s not be so literal. It is just a way of identifying the young woman sitting next to Sansa at the great WF banquet. Yes, she was never called as “Jeyne” but it is how many reference her. Sorry if it confused you.
Sue the Fury,
now my mind is spinning w/ speculations
I went to Linda’s twitter to see if she’s whining about Valyria. And indeed, she says it’s the most ridiculous choice D&D ever made.
TFT,
*face palm*
why… literally why?
Seeing Valyria is one of the most exciting prospects ever
Sue the Fury,
So he said title does indeed have a double meaning.
The Dance of dragons. War between Targaryens.
Is Trystane really fAegon? Or they will confirm R+L=J?
Do you think Sansa will throw Walda a baby shower? 🙁
I don’t mind having seen this release, it is a great teaser for Sunday. Makes me more excited if that is possible. The dragon looks very cool to me and also FINALLY the poster shot becomes realized.
Stone man? 😮
LOL
I think that is a great change from the books.
You tease!!! Dare I hope that more than one dragon will be actively “dancing”? 🙂 Be still my beating heart!
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
ENOUGH with it!
Straight hair and golden-platinum silver color.
They will maybe confirm R+L=J?
Or Tyrion will ride a dragon?
Or Varys will reveal that he is Targaryen (Blackfire)?
Or fAegon?
Is there any other possibility?
HelloThere,
I just dont buy that theory. It unnecessarily complicates the story and there are already enough storylines to tie up in only two seasons.
Squirrel,
I don’t either.
Just spinning thoughts in my head.
I think episode 9 will be one of the best. Daznaks Pit. Arya is alsmot guaranteed to be in it. Walk of Shame possibly and Dorne is kind of confirmed as well
Don’t think Winterfell will be in episode 9 but not sure about Jon
Brotherhood without Banter,
Ok,then don’t watch it,why do you think anybody cares what the minority(in which case is you) think about him ?
We’re sneaky like that, nip in when least expected. It’s how we got such a large empire – did the 18/19th century equivalent of “look over there it’s Elvis!” and took over when no-one was paying attention! ;O)
With Ep 9 likely being “The Dance of Dragons”, I wonder if Ep 10 is going to be “A Feast For Crows”, or some variation of that. Could make sense, esp considering how most people expect the episode to end.
A great idea!
Annie Wilkes,
Or “The Winds of Winter” 😀
But imagine the twist if Tarly was one of the attackers, since you know he DID find a home of some sort in NW and JS is about to endanger that “home” for all of them.
Valaquen,
Haha. That will probably send the book purist into a tizzy….
There have been some cheeky references to the title of AFFC already. There’s the shot of the crow landing on the flayed corpse at Winterfell, as well as Bronn protesting “The birds need to eat!” when Jaime orders him to bury the bodies.
If 5×10 is a bloodbath, with
, “A Feast For Crows” might be an appropriate episode title for 5×10,
.
As for the Walda clip…
Hoyti Von Totiy,
I never would of thought this before, but watching Sam’s reaction in the clip above, and assuming his ADWD plot line is cut, this makes a lot of sense.
FieryHeart,
I would recommend finding out more about Ramsey. The show appears to have skipped over where he had a previous wife. I can now see the scenario played out in that tale, with wife changing to father’s wife. (There’s a way Westerosi to say mother-in-law that escapes me for now.) Roose would need to leave Winterfell (for some reason), leaving Walder in Ramsey’s safe-keeping.
If you think Ramsey’s gone to town on Theon……
Yeah. I can see this as contender for the apparent super-traumatic scene that’s been teased by Sophie & Alfie. It’d be right up Myranda’s street to get involved, like she did setting up Theon/Reek right before Ramsey changed his anatomy.
There’s a reason I’m going to use spoilers now. BEWARE!!
BTW – Currently playing ‘Am I Evil?’ (Diamond Head) – What’s next? ‘Angel Of Death’ (Slayer) – After that? Marvin Gaye ‘Let’s Get It On’. You know how romantic Ramsey gets with Myranda.
Hey, we gotta leave something for next season!
Hoyti Von Totiy,
If anyone in the NW knows the dangers posed by the White Walkers, it’s Sam. I’ve never gotten the impression that he hates the wildlings, so an alliance with them and a rescue mission for them wouldn’t motivate him the same way that it would motivate Olly or Alliser. Sam’s constantly looking for loopholes in his vows (wink, wink, nudge, nudge, say no more), so I can’t see him killing Jon for oath-breaking.
A lot has got to change between then and now to convince me that it makes sense for Sam to be one of the FTW betrayers. My current opinion is that it will be Olly and NW “extras” or Olly alone. Of course, that could change on a dime, depending on what happens in future episodes.
I’m definitely sticking with my prediction for this episode now.
Bogden,
The dance of dragons .. I like it .. I don’t know why but the first time I read the title .. a scene came up in my mind .. imagine drogon twerking in the the middle of daznak’s pit .. while the other two dancing salsa .. wouldn’t that be a sight to behold ? .. anyway next episode is going to be awesome ..
can’t bloody wait .. so far this season is shaping up to be the best yet ..
The Trystane theory is looking likelier and likelier. I’m now remembering the shot in one of the trailers where Ellaria is kneeling before Doran, possibly in forgiveness, and that could very well be the Arianne-esque moment of reconciliation after he reveals his ulterior motives.
I wonder if Tyrion and Jorah are going to see the monkeys that Vic sees on the way to Meereen. If so, I can see it happening in episode 6 before they run into slavers. It could be hilarious.
It didn’t confuse me: I have absolutely no memory of the person. I don’t doubt that she existed – the set was full of extras – but never had heard anyone reference her as Jeyne Poole. (Of course, I completely forgot that Jeyne Poole existed until Dragons: she is highly forgettable!)
Only one of the primary protagonists is a Targaryen (well, that we know for certain). Moreover, her family before her father is almost entirely irrelevant to the story: it has no bearing on how Daeny wades between Tough Choice A and Touch Choice B, which in turn is what creates the story. It also has no bearing on how Jon, Tyrion, etc., sort through their inner conflicts. The Targaryens could come from Mars or could always have been in Westeros for all that it matters to the story: and, really, even to the basic plots.
I agree. Episode 9 would be a great place for
Sounds awesome to me, and yet another genius streamlining of the gargantuan Feast/Dance plot.
Wimsey,
As I said, it is just a reference that some use for her. Let’s call her “the young woman sitting next to Sansa.” And, for me, Jeyne Poole is memorable because her story is horrific. She may not be “important” but her story is memorable for its sadness and cruelty.
steve,
By all means, stick with it. I hope you are correct!
mariamb,
I think there is somewhere (maybe DVD commentary?) where D&D say, “look, there’s Jayne Poole” — but it seems sort of in jest, like they were showing complainers that she had actually been included in the show. Been a while since I’ve seen that, so I’m not sure exactly where it’s from.
No one ever called JP by her name in the show, but she was credited as JP by the show.
JP was definitely a memorable character in the books.
Darren,
Im not saying that the pact with the wildlings will push Sam on that path rather Jons desicion to march against the Boltons while serving as LC of NW.
Look at it from Tarlys point of view:
– Jon could have accepted Stanniss offer and become a “true” Stark
– But instead he became LC of NW by Sams nomination
Now while holding the title of LC of NW he decides to go against the Boltons and by doing so he endangers the whole NW order and 8000 year old code that has never been broken.
Simeon,
Rygritte,
I don’t want to hijack this thread into a discussion on JP but thanks for the information on how the show referenced that young woman. In my mind, she was always JP, regardless of whether or not she made an later appearance in the show and fulfilled the book character’s story line.
It was hard to read about Jeyne, Pia and Kyra in the books
Andrew,
Im sorry but that “theory” has absolutely NO ground to stand on except to shoehorn that faegon-plot into the show. There are only two seasons left and the show should concentrate on bringing the already existing storylines to a satisfying end instead of complicating it even more.
I love this season!! 🙂
Hoyti Von Totiy,
Since Mance is dead (imo) and Melisandre isn’t sending him on a mission to rescue Jon’s sister with Jon’s approval, there isn’t currently a reason why the Boltons would threaten the NW in general and Jon in particular (assuming Ramsey wrote the PL under true or false information).
With six episodes remaining and E5 seemingly focused on making a truce with the wildlings and probably multiple episodes spent dealing with Hardhome, I don’t know if the show is going to have time for Jon to agitate the Boltons enough for them to declare war. I think that they might simplify the storyline by making his downfall a response to his policies regarding the wildlings.
Of course, one scene could change my mind completely and make me think that the story is heading in the PL direction.
D&D said that on the commentary track for the pilot episode. Something like “there’s our Jeyne Poole!”
Mr Fixit,
Or they could totally screw with us and call it “A Time for Wolves.”
Love the clip. At first I thought Ramsay would be fucking pissed, but now that he is legitimized it doesn’t matter if Walda has a baby or not does it? He is still first in line right?
One of Roose Bolton’s leeches,
I think that’s up to Roose, since he’s the Lord. Sam and Tyrion were essentially disowned. It does give Roose one more tool to keep Ramsey in line.
I vote for D&D going sideways with Sworn Shield or Mystery Knight.
Technically yes, but you know how the saying goes: once a psycho, always a psycho.
Yes! Months ago that was my bet. Actually, “A Dance with Dragons”.
Heh, that didn’t come up a few months ago when we saw GRRM’s “please consider my book for publication” letter. If I recall, he explicitly mentions the titles Winter and Dragons: but nothing about “A Time for Wolves.”
mariamb,
It was after Dragons: but before then, she was easy to forget. (Or hard to remember: I guess that it depends on your point of view!) Moreover, it’s not like her story is any sadder than that of hosts of other unnamed people: innocents, war, suffer, etc.
It’s actually not uncommon to do that when adapting books: they’ll just label some stand-in as a book character that did not merit inclusion. I seem to recall Harry Potter fans being upset when original “actors” for so-labelled bit parts were recast with real actors once the character became prominent.
But doesn’t Doran have to actually DO something to make that speech worthwhile? In the book, he is the weak-appearing dude that actually had the Master Plan the whole time. Given all the changes, it is hard to figure out what this dynamic could be in the show other than Trystane = Aegon. This idea does have some potential plot holes, but that certainly hasn’t stopped them with other off-book plots this season.
Dorne is pretty much a black box this season. Clearly Jaime gets caught, as per the trailer, and I feel that his character arc demands he gets out again. Other than that, it is hard to see where D&D are trying to go.
Darren,
Do not put too much emphasis on the Coral Correspondence as the cause for FTW. Sure, that might have been the straw that broke the mammoth’s back: but FTW almost certainly had been a long-time coming. After all, at one point
Given that the primary reason for it almost certainly already has gotten some emphasis on the show (it’s very much a gun hung on the wall already this year), and we saw stuff in the trailers that suggest that the gun is going to get dusted and remounted at least a couple of more times.
At this point, I feel pretty good predicting that other than Tyrion/Jorah, the Cogman-penned episodes will have no overlapping storylines.
Episode 5: Wall/Winterfell/Brienne/Meereen
Episode 6: King’s Landing/Dorne/Braavos
Not sure if Bryan was intentionally going for Feast/Dance splitting with his two episodes, but I like it if it gives all the storylines room to breathe 🙂
Actually, I should think that the dynamic is very different: it’s all about revenge. Moreover, I do not think that the audience will have any problem understanding that. So, the speech can make perfect sense without the Trystaegon conjecture. (Again, the earliest we ever were
Irrespective of that (and in the book, it is irrespective of that!), there are innumerable ways in which Doran can use these circumstances to make the audience understand that he’s
Andrew,
Winterfell’s in ep. 506 too. Elizabeth Webster’s (Walda) CV credits her for it too.
Also Tyrion’s in 506 which we know from the summary.
Greenjones,
Ah, fair enough. That CV is the first indication any of the Northern storylines are in 6.
And if Webster is only those 3 episodes, Ramsay won’t be wasting any time eliminating the competition.
Wimsey,
I’m not comparing her to “hosts of other unnamed people: innocents, war, suffer, etc.” I’m stating how I reacted to her story. It was sad in ADWD and before…when her father was killed, and when she was taken away from Sansa and thrown into LF’s brothels to be “trained.” Please don’t attempt to trivialize my opinion because it isn’t the same as yours. Readers/viewers respond differently to various characters (major and minor). We don’t need to have the same reactions to enjoy this tale.
Bogden,
Thanks for this little bit of information. I love the speculation that it has created.
Wimsey,
Andrew,
I really don’t think she’ll die. Roose wouldn’t let Ramsay get away with that for a second. I think 506 is
Hodor’s Bastard,
It’s my #1 in the whole series, bar none. Go Aemon Go!
I’m also really looking forward to more Tormund time. Once Jon takes Aemon’s advice he can learn to be manly, burly, and tough with Tormund, right?
Greenjones,
Good. The more we get of the North the better.
Tyrion Pimpslap,
Or The Dance of Drogon!!!
You. You people. With your predictions and your theories and your speculating.
I – I was going to try to ignore these posts. “I” was going to watch this season without any preconceived notions (disclosure – I have read the books) and not read any of these kinds of thoughts.
But Noooooooo!
I saw the headline and I just couldn’t……..
I JUST COULDNT STAY AWAY.
Damn you all to the Seven Hells!
“Just when I thought I was out… they pull me back in.”
Actually – I was missing you. Each and every one of you. And now that I’ve had a long bath while eating chocolate and drinking wine and reading all of your tongue’s utterances, I am truly satiated and happy.
Carry on! I will deprive myself no more!
(Mayhaps a bit too much wine)
(NEVER!)
Welcome back!
What’s the bet episode 10 is called ‘For the watch’?
With the hints on ep 9’s title I’m guessing…
Paul,
I didn’t think that’ll happen this season with the Hardhome stuff, but it’s looking more likely with every episode.
mrestfla,
Already proven to be fake.
Please provide support…
mrestfla,
The first time I saw this, I thought it might be plausible….until Jaqen said “I”. All that work, and such a silly mistake. 😉
ROFL
mrestfla,
It says that Mel, Shireen and Selyse stay at the Wall and we already know they don’t.
I’ve watched the end of this clip a dozen times. It’s a brilliant choice to travel through the ruins. The perfect location for the poster to be realized, and for the SM to reside. Should be another outstanding episode in a season that may end up being my favorite.