Game of Thrones Season 7, Episode 1 “Dragonstone”
Writers: David Benioff and D.B. Weiss
Director: Jeremy Podeswa
Runtime: 59 minutes
Content Warnings: TV-MA: Adult Content, Adult Language, Brief Nudity, Mild Violence
Video Preview: Winter is Here Trailer
Synopsis: Seven Premiere. Jon Snow organizes the defense of the North. Cersei tries to even the odds. Samwell discovers crucial information. Daenerys comes home.
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HYPE!!!!!!!
I’m going to sleep now. In Belgium it’s 10 PM now and Game of Thrones airs at 3 AM here. My watch is set at 3 AM. I hope I will be able to sleep a little.
And here… we… go.
yeah Five little hours!
YES!! I CAN’T BELIEVE WE ARE HERE!
Hope NK gets at least 10 minutes.
Sue, it’s been a while since I’ve seen you around:)
Guys, I’m so hype
I’m going to try and stay away from here because I fear stuff lol!!!!!!
Enjoyyyyyy
Crikey …It’s almost Bloody Here!!!
I know the moderators, as usual, will do an excellent job of weeding out Trolls and Spoiler comments. I want to be able to come here and enjoy anticipation of episodes and add to the discussion, but am fully aware that this season has had major leaks.
I have been good at keeping away from spoilers, (though I have seen the photo’s of a certain ‘meeting on a beach’) but apart from what I’m assuming to happen from the 2 trailers, I’m still pretty much in the dark.
As to this episode, with a title like ‘Dragonstone’ I can obviously expect to see Dany’s Landing, which should be emotional. I can’t get too excited about how she’s going to conquer Westeros as she has ‘overkill’ forces, and that was before Dorne and Highgarden joined her crusade. Hell, she really only needs her dragons and Unsullied now. All Cersei has is the Lannister army and Wildfire, but no doubt, she has an ‘ashes in your mouth’ attitude, and that should be enjoyable.
Guessing Jon and the North will be consolidating and planning how to defeat the White Walkers, though I will be interested to see what Arya, The BWB, Melisandra, and Brienne & Pod are up to? Aren’t they ALL in the Riverlands right now?? 😀
..and spare a thought for Septa Unella! What sort of state will She be in now??? (eww)
‘Mild violence.’ 😂
Pigeon,
I know I saw that too and was like ummm? Hahahah
There’s also this new preview of the episode: https://twitter.com/GameOfThrones/status/886617183333134336
T minus 5 hours!!
Really, poor Septa Unella, wonder if we’ll see how she be doing..
Which locations are we going to see during the opening credits? My guess:
King’s Landing, for the first time with the sigil of a Lannister lion instead of a Baratheon stag.
Winterfell
The Wall
Dragonstone
Old Town
Highgarden
me right now
http://imgur.com/DGEoPl3
It’s been over a year since the last episode, but in way it doesn’t feel that long. We’re hours away now, and I can’t wait!!! Unfortunately, I can’t stay up to watch this year (UK), but I should be able to watch it in the morning. I thought I’d watch Battle of the Bastards and The Winds of Winter tonight, and they really are as brilliant as I remember. Dragonstone has a lot to live up to, but in D&D I trust.
It’s been a good day with my boy Roger getting his hand on another trophy; lets make Monday even better with a fantastic premiere episode of GoT! Season 7
Sometimes I cover myself with flour while using a wolf costume and pretend to be a hot pie.
I can’t believe it’s here already! It seemed like just yesterday it was still weeks away. I’m so hyped!
HereBeDragons,
I’m the same been good saw that spoiler and said hey enough is enough lol
Anyway welcome back to all you non spoiler folk see you on the other side
I’m working early tomorrow so getting up at 4 am to watch it so I can spoil all my workmates there will be a 1000 comments by the time I’ve watched it
I’ve voluntarily read every single spoiler out there and I’m still as hyped, if not more. I live in France but luckily there’s this channel which broadcasts every HBO shit, so here go my 10€ a month I keep for capitalism-fueling purposes only. I’m looking most forward to that opening scene, enjoy y’all!
I ordered an extra large pizza. 🙂
Tyson,
Did we ever see Dragonstone while Staniss was there? I can’t remember.
stefan666,
Yeah we did!! In season 2 and season 3!
Checking in here to post for the first time in over a year…
All aboard the HYPE TRAIN!!!
Dee Stark,
For some reason I can’t remember how it looked, and I’ve watched the show countless times lol.
Not able to see until tomorrow night so enjoy everyone and read you all on Tuesday.
Knight of the Walkers,
Was so happy about that
Love him!!!
I’m good, no need to waste time revisiting that story line, let her rest in peace. rip.
HARmundGiantsbane,
Welcome back mate
stefan666,
Lol ! Remember the table where stannis was always… the room where Mel and gendry were
Sadly, I have to wait till tomorrow for the premiere (not till the evening though). But I’m surely HYPED! I managed to stay away from most spoilers and especially leaks so I’m pretty much unsullied when it comes to the new season. A new batch of reviews awaits me… and I may make some video ones as well, which will be posted on my newly made Youtube channel, which currently contains very little GoT stuff, but things may change when the season airs.
My channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCR_LIigFBRoic2ZcwyBdVGw
At this point, all I can say is… BRING IT ON!
http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/gameofthrones/images/f/fb/Dragonstone_%28day%29.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20130501013126
There were very few exterior shots of it. Judging by the trailer we’re going to see a lot more of it this season. 🙂
Tyson,
Probably The Twins instead of Highgarden, but otherwise I’m guessing that’s accurate. One thing that I keep wondering about: will they end the credit sequence at The Wall, or move down to Oldtown like they did with Dorne? I’m hoping they end with The Wall. Winter is Here, after all 😀
Dee Stark,
Oh no I know that lol! I meant in the opening sequence xD
I think its gotten a remodel!
We saw Dragonstone in opening credits many times…S2, S3 and S4.
Shit. Shit. Shit. Shit. Shit. Shit. Shit. Shit. Shit. Shit. Shit. Shit. Shit. Shit.
Cannot WAIT! 😝😝
For some reason, Dragonstone is the least distinguishable place in the opening credits for me… could just be me disliking Staniss tho.. XD
Not gonna lie – I am also kind of sad because after waiting so long, it’ll be over so soon!!!
Lord Parramandas,
we saw the throne room, shireen room, the dungeon(when davos was locked away) and some scenes with Selyse and Melisandre.
I get very sad when I realize we’ll only get one more off-season after this.
Omg we are so close.I’ll try and sleep a bit now.
Pigeon,
Me too. I was thinking this morning we’ve only 12 more Sundays like this. 😢
Hodor. Hodor hodor HODOR!! (Translation) excited. Hype excited HYPE!!
P.S. Please come back hodor! Even if it’s as a white walker!
OneDon,
And an outside shot as well, most clear in “Second Sons”.
I think the building that had the stag on it in Kings Landing was supposed represent the Sept of Baelor. So instead of a lion, maybe it will just be a smoldering crater.
I don’t think we will get two locations in the credits for the Reach – I am going to guess either Highgarden or just “The Reach”. The other location we will get is Pyke.
I agree on the locations, and think it will end with Oldtown. This is my order prediction:
King’s Landing
Dragonstone
The Twins
Winterfell
The Wall
Oldtown
It just occurred to me that there will probably be no Essos locations in the credits. I can’t think of any main character that’s there anymore except maybe Jorah. That’s going to be so weird.
I wonder who if, anyone is going to get left out of the premiere? There’s nothing in the synapsis to indicate that we’ll be seeing Arya, Bran, Brienne or Melisandre. Doesn’t mean they won’t show up of course. I’m guessing Cersei doesn’t know about Dany getting to Westeros yet, so reason to show Dorne or Highgarden until she figures out they’re with her.
Even though this will probably be the least eventful episode of the season by far, I’m super excited. Especially since I woke up to that nice Doctor Who news! I have my Fire & Blood cocktail ingredients ready. Absolut Ruby Red grapefruit vodka with blood orange soda. Sadly I forgot to get a blood orange so I could garnish with a slice, but it’ll be just as tasty. No special food plans though. I’m just gonna grub on something earlier. I don’t want to be distracted by food while I’m watching 🙂
Don’t forget the Land of Always Winter. Hoping to see a lot of the NK/WW.
Night gathers, and now my watch begins. It shall not end until the end of August. I shall hit no pause button, watch no other show, suffer no distraction. I shall switch off my phone and be glued to the screen. I shall fear and cheer with my fellow watchers.
I am the eyes in the darkness. I am the watcher on the walls. I am the shield that guards the realms of spoilers. I pledge my life and honor to GoT, for this night and the next six Sunday nights to come.
Jack Bauer 24,
Not happening. In the opening credits I mean.
And I don’t know where you got the idea from that we’ll suddenly see lots and lots of NK, because that’s very unlikely.
I really want to stay up and watch this live however I to take the kids to school in the morning and then a full day of work which will wreck me. Planning instead to wake up at 6am and watch it before the kids get up, I’m so hyped.
Even the Shadow Smoke Demon Baby was conceived on that table.
How much time does it take for Game of Thrones episode to be available on Torrent after its premiere on TV?
I’m not proud, but I just want to download in 720p and watch over and over to get all the details.
Hype is here!
Ooh. Good call.
I can’t wait to watch. I don’t know what to do with myself until then.
WOO-HOO!
3hrs 43min to go… +24hrs where I live, so I’ll have to avoid certain parts of the Internet for 24hrs, haha!
Won’t be difficult because my car broke down in a very inconvenient location away from home and I’ll have to oversee it being towed to a garage and then decide what to do with the old girl – don’t want to spend masses of money on a car with a resale value of probably 500 euros but she’s a very good, serviceable car, and scrapping her costs money, too. Plus I’d need to buy a new car. Damn, all this hassle, just when I was going to concentrate on GoT! haha!
Anyway, everybody: Enjoy! GoT S7 is finally here! See yis all on the other side +24hrs!
stefan666,
Ohhhhh
Hahahahahhaha
Winter is almost here. I have chills already. For me it’s about 10 hours left till I’ll see a full episode, but I hope that some bit will be on youtube earlier. So, I guess I’ll try to get some sleep. But if I’ll fail (which is quite possible) I’ll come here for on-line reports just like I did when the Battle of the Bastards aired.
So excited, I can’t stand it! And these threads are part of my favorite part of the whole thing! I have Sky Atlantic on and am watching their GOT marathon up until the simulcast at 2am. On now: Battle of the Bastards.
Remember how after the ice cube melted and the site started the countdown clock? I think it was 130 days plus or minus. Well, now it’s 3-4 hours! For the first time, the spouse and I did a full re-watch (I surreptitiously did two on my own!), and how much richer it will be. Also, the reviews of Season 6 episodes was doubly helpful. The only downside is that after ages of dieting and losing over two stones, snacks are coming 🙂 .
59 min. at least close to 60.
However HBO has no set time slots.
Turri,
Lol. Thx for that!
Caw, Caw – BRING IT ON…. only some 4 hours to go (2am for me) and GoT will be rocking n’rolling again, hehe 😀
I’m not going to speculate at what may happen and I’ll take it as it comes. We’re all champing at the bit down here in the Canaries and watching it with a few cold beers and a packet of Doritos tortilla crisps – One could say “Ice and Fire” 😮
So don’t expect any posts from me until much later and certainly not during the show!
To Carole H and any of you in Europe who for some reason can’t watch the ‘simcast’ – For Christ’s sake stay clear of WotW until after the airing tomorrow evening at 9pm 🙂
How soon should I begin madly refreshing the HBO GO page? Is it too soon?
Please, servers, don’t die.
Turri,
/me claps hands.
Well done, love it !
Will we see dragons tonight?
Raul,
So you don’t want to pay all the people who write, direct, act, produce the show? All the people who design and build the sets, all the people who design and make the costumes, armour, weapons? All the people who choreograph the amazing fight scenes? All the people who train the horses, all the people who do the leccy, all the people who do the hair and make-up, all the people who do the practical effects, all the people who do the CGI, all the people who do the transporting, all the people who do the catering…
How would you feel if people didn’t want to pay for your hard work, just because they thought their wants were more important than you and you getting paid for your work?
I don’t know where in the world you are but where I am, it’s possible to legally watch the entire S7 of GoT for 9.95 euros. That’s like 2 or 3 pints of beer. Think on it.
Gobbling proteins and carbs with the bunch before the premiere. However, once the hour of the wolf and dragon draws nigh, only Fire & Blood shall be served throughout the dark night. Fare thee well!
Edward,
Drink and ____!
Hahaha
With the same budget, 385 days between seasons, and only 7 episodes I’m expecting dragons and white walkers every episode
Miss Stark,
Doing the same here. Am more excited than a kid at Xmas!
Jack Bauer 24,
Don’t forget direwolves 🐺🐺
I’m worried we won’t see Ghost at all
NONE OF THIS IS GOING TO BE IN THE BOOKS! AHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!
Can someone from WotW please activate my account in the forums?
it’s Gh3ttoKinG
Thanks
Jack Bauer 24,
Don’t worry. We’ll see that elusive snowball ❄️😀
Going to sleep now… and in the middle of the day tomorrow, I will already be able to watch it with English subtitles. It officially airs in evening though… but I have my own ways, only negative point is no Slovenian subtitles… I’m fluent in English though.
At last, we made it! The longest offseason in living memory has finally drawn to a close, and Winter is here!
“Well … Father always promised, didn’t he?” 🙂
Enjoy every minute that tonight’s episode has to offer, fellow Watchers! I sure as hell will.
Wonder if we’ll get to visit the Citadel at all this episode. I’m really looking forward to meeting Marwyn the Mage (or show-equivalent).
Also hoping very hard that Dolorous Edd doesn’t die this season.
Should be fun, in any case. See you all on the other side.
Who do you think will be left out of the premiere? Will wee see Arya? Greyjoys? Sand Snakes?
TICK TICK TICK TICK TICK TICK TICK TICK
Between this and the big Doctor Who news today, it’s like geek Christmas!
I hope this is a wonderful episode and you all enjoy the heck out of it. Benioff and Weiss created a Season 7 Spotify playlist that I’ve listened to in order to get hyped up for tonight. Here it is if anyone wants a listen –> https://open.spotify.com/user/spotify/playlist/37i9dQZF1DXdnZT5DhATDx
Hey, it looks like your registration didn’t go through right on our end. I activated everything pending already and don’t see you in there. Try it again right now and I’ll activate it.
If anyone wants to kill time, ColliderVideos did some videos talking about where we are now, and theorizing for Season 7:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4U7T6xFOEc
Just popping by to wish everyone a Happy Season Premiere.
I hope all those with whom I’ve become familiar over time have been well, and I hope all the new posters who have inevitably arrived have been loving this site.
Woooooooo-hooooooooooo … just 2 1/2 more hours!!!
Dee! My fellow season 7 unsullied. 😊 I’ve been avoiding the chats but now we can join in. Thank you Sue for reminding everyone to cover their spoilers.
Less than 3 hours to go. Enjoy, everyone!
Jack–The only pretty sure thing is WE WON’T SEE ESSOS!!!! Or the dead characters probably. First episodes usually look in on everyone and continue what happened in the final scenes of the previous season. I don’t think the BWB plus Hound got a look-in in Ep10, so I think tonight they’ll be ‘placed’. Euron too. Sam might be ignored tonight. After all, he’s probably still just lost in a few good books!
Well, friends, TTFN and Happy Watching!
Dee Stark,
Heyyyy yeah I’ve been on vacation for the past week +. So the others have kept the place running in an insanely busy week! And doing a bang-up job of it.
I don’t think Arya or the NK were in the S6 premiere
Seeing the “Open Chat” post makes it that much more real. WE’RE NEARLY THERE 🐉 💚
Just reposting my prediction from a while back, King Jaime Lannister, First of His Name.
Not a dead guy called Jon. Not an Targaryen princess. Not a Stark of any sort. A Lannister ends up on the throne.
I haven’t wavered from this in years.
I really want to stay up till 2am and watch (UK), but I have to get up early to get my kids ready for school, then be at work till 9pm when we have some friends coming over to watch with us tomorrow evening, so I don’t think I’ll make it. Loved the open chat during the ad breaks last year when I was staying up till 2am to watch, but I didn’t work Mondays then and also wasn’t 7 months pregnant like I am now, so I think I have to give in to reality this year and head to bed.
Happy viewing to everyone watching this evening!!! Hope it’s an amazing premiere.
Sam,
Hiiiiii:)
Nymeria Warrior Queen,
Hi NMQ! I second your wishes for all, newbies and vets. Enjoy All and see you on the other side! Squeeeee!
I’m beyond excited to be starting another Thrones thrill-ride with all my fellow completely obsessed fanatics on this site!! This one is going to fly by so let’s savor every morsel!!
Hey – is there anyone on here in Toronto?
Sue the Fury,
I fully agree!!!!!! 🙂
Goood I hope it was awesome!!!!!
Hyped up and hating on all y’all. 😑.
U.S. Navy and stationed overseas wayyyy secluded in the Indian Ocean. Wont be airing here till Monday, 5pm eastern time. For me, thats Tuesday 3am. FML. I will be setting that alarm though!!
Lena! https://twitter.com/IAMLenaHeadey/status/885254237378228224
Lord Parramandas,
Turri,
Sam,
Molestown bastard,
I’m thrilled that we have a spoiler-free open chat! However, I’m concerned about it staying that way if we are inundated by the uninitiated. If things start looking bad, I’m all up for partying in the general forums, where folks have been really decent thus far about covering any leak spoilers.
QueenOfThrones has already started a Dragonstone party for the mono-Sullied (book- not leak-Sullied). http://forum.watchersonthewall.com/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=93
Raul,
Not that long, usually a good one within a couple of hours.
I would guess that the first killer tonight will be Arya Stark. Most of the other characters are with the friends. Jon and Sansa and crew in the north. Cersei and Jaime in King’s Landing and Dany’s mob on the ships.
OF course, there could be an immediate invasion but I’ve got the feeling that will come a bit later.
That’s so cool, even if the timing’s not ideal. It’s amazing how no matter where people are or what they’re up to, they’re thinking Thrones!
And you probably get this all the time, but thank you for your service!!
Hello everyone, so glad this day is finally here.
Arya was. Near the end in the short scene of the waif beating her ass in the street.
This is the longest last few hours of waiting!!!!
True. I was thinking the S5 premiere.
What will be the opening scene?
Nymeria Warrior Queen,
Nym! I’ve missed you.
How many times will you watch the premeire?
As much as I think I know these characters I expect to be very surprised tonight. (no spoilers) And I will probably be confused about this or that. This site is such a joyful resource after the show. See ya here later, for sure. Dragon roar! Wolf howl!
Che,
Feel for you, Che! I’m still on the go here, but we’ll see how it goes.
Thronetender,
Agreed… we ain’t done crying over Hodor yet..
Jack Bauer 24,
Sam specifically is mentioned in the episode description online, so I’m pretty sure will see Sam.
Hope we see Oldtown in the opening credits.
Hi! Does anyone know if the episode will be available on HBO Go worldwide at the same time it premiers on TV? It’ll be night time here so I can’t really watch it on TV and wake everyone up but I really want to see it (I’ve access to the Czech version of HBO Go), so it’d be great if anyone could tell me (if you know, that is) as I’d just really hate to wait for it only to find out I can’t watch it until tomorrow (well, later today, technically). Thanks!
Red Viper,
Close…I’m in Ottawa!
Hello again all! I am back and after avoiding the leaks and spoilers, I’m ready to talk some thrones!
Can’t bloody wait. Less than 1 1/2 hr to go!
Ahhhh never have I ever been this captivated by a tv show!
Re:opening credits…I thought we saw them in the published video of live orchestra playing at the premier? And they were not what I expected… but I will say no more because I may be way off base and don’t want to “spoil” anyone – maybe I got unwittingly spoiled following all the PR footage this week!
I’m going basic and making popcorn…enjoy everyone!
So, yesterday my city, Santiago, was blanketed by its biggest snowfall in 46 years (and it hadn’t snowed at all since 2007) and today we hit the coldest temperatures of the year. Somehow, having the GOT season 7 premiere today (with it’s tagline, “Winter is Here”) seems very appropriate. Rather the opposite from what you, northern hemisphere inhabitants, must feel.
It’s available on GO same time episode airs on HBO.
Good things come to those who wait!
Looking forward to all the insightful and fun comments and reactions on tonight’s episode and a week of great Watcher’s posts. It looks like HBO is doing a back to back airing of the premier so we can get a second dose right away.
I sense a great joy spreading across the realm in the next 90 minutes or so!
Oh my god. Less than an hour and half to go! 🙂
Well, having been involved in various ‘distraction activities’, like gardening, most of the day, I’ve now spent the last three hours creating things for an online course (on a 13th c. Icelandic politician involved in things just about as bloody as GoT). All in the name of putting in time profitably while waiting… and waiting… and… there’s still 1.5 hours to go but the Dornish Red does help.
Now we get ‘The Story So Far’ on Sky, which is no sae guid as ma ain mindin (not as good as my own remembering). More work on the 13th century needed to put in the remaining time and keep me awake!
Or more Dornish Red?
Will this episode be available for free on HBO GO? I’m on vacation in Croatia (yes, Dubrovnik!) and I don’t have HBO GO, just regular cable, and I won’t be home until this friday! Please help
I made this for you guys. <3 Use it however you want lol. 😀
SO EXCITED!!!
https://s14.postimg.org/8eiphsd0h/MYBODYISREADY.png
Just watched S6E8 for the 3rd time.
I think Miguel Sapochnik’s direction of large action on TV is the best I have ever seen.
I say that in the light of Neil Marshall’s work in S2 and S4, which I thought was excellent.
I know there is , at least , one episode with probably 2 large scale actions and a least one battle larger than in S6E8.
My guess is that is S7E4 , maybe E5, E3 seems too soon.
So that falls to Matt Shakman , he’s done good TV work, so will have to see.
I say that because I think David Nutter is a very good director, but I felt he fumbled the choreography of the action sequence in S5E9 , not horribly , but off enough.
I am guessing there is as big or even bigger ‘exotic’ battle in episode 6 and I notice Alan Taylor has that one only. See how that works out.
HAPPY GAME OF THRONES DAY EVERYONE
it’s Monday morning here in Australia … the perfect way to start the week
Dear Dish Network, why are you not allowing me to see a free HBO preview today, but will do it for Episode 2 next week? Weird. I’ll be following the premiere on Twitter then.
YouTube poster Top 5s put up two GoT-themed videos just before the premiere for your enjoyment.
5 Game of Thrones Characters Thought to be Inspired by Real Life Historical Figures
5 Game of Thrones Events & Battles Inspired by Real Life History
S7 is almost here! 🙂
P.S. How does one embed a YouTube video in a comment post? Just curious. Thanks.
Of the old gods,
I think it was confirmed that the version they showed at the premiere isn’t going to be the one we’re going to get for tonight’s episode!!
I am rewatching the Winds of Winter on HBO before the premiere. That beginning music gets me every time. I know what is going to happen but now I can appreciate how it plays out even more.
So much hype!
I hope we’ll get a good Melisandre scene today!
YES!
So happy to see Open Chat. I loved hanging out here during the last season and I can’t wait to do it again!
I’ve been freaking out for weeks-rewatching, rereading…possibly obsessing lol
Husband and bil are with me though, making deviled Dragon eggs and Little Finger-ling potatoes etc
How much longer again? 😉
Goblet of wine – Check
Season 6 Review complete – Check
Tissue Box in hand – Check
Hyppppppppeeeeeeeeeeee!!! CHECK
Enjoy, my fellow ThroneHeads. 😊
Angela,
I watched it yesterday! I wanted to have it fresh in my mind too. Such a good episode. I’m so pumped to watch tonight. Got a pizza on the way and I’m about to shut off my phone/social media. Does anyone else turn off outside communication while they watch? It would be kinda cool I guess if I could Tweet/comment on WotW during the show but I always feel like it would be a distraction from the screen. I’m not sure how people can multitask on that level but I can appreciate it. Looking forward to the after-show Tweets posted here though! 🙂
Well I’m going to be back in GoT watching mode. That means nearly three times tonight at 8, 9 and 11. It’s on again on one of my HBO channels every night this week. I’ll end up watching each night except Thursday and Saturday when I’m busy. So I’ll probably watch it at least 7 or 8 times before 7×02 airs, possibly more. 🙂
Cersei’s Brain,
Love this comment!!
Red Viper,
HeHeldThatDoor,
Ottawa also!!!!! Yessssss
I have off tomorrow from work so I will watch the premiere again after I am done packing and cleaning my apartment.
I will be on vacation starting Tuesday but I have secured watching the 2nd episode of GOT with my cousins. They have HBO and watch GOT. Thank the Old Gods.
Daniela,
That’s awesome!! Winter is here!
This is awesome!!! (Fellow NFL fans)
https://instagram.com/p/BWnQq_4BoSi/
Hype!!!
Pizza has been ordered! This is gonna be the longest hour of my life, haha. But it’s almost here!!
Nice!
Pizza. Awesome. I have my snacks and beer ready.
Yes. My phone is off. If there is a call, then the person has to leave a voicemail. I have this site open but other communication is off.
ramses,
I am going to go with Arya wrapping things up at the Twins
Perfection 😂
Twice tonight because they are playing back to back. At least once tomorrow because I have the day off of work.
The hype is fucking real.
I’m in Amsterdam now, it’s 2 AM, and I’m flying to Geneva, Switzerland at 7 AM, where I live.
I’m gonna barely get two hours of sleep, and yet, the second I step off the plane and make it back home, I’m watching the episode. I have no clue how I’m going to wait like 7 hours longer than usual to see the episode, but it’s already completely unbearable !
How long do you think the Previously On will be lol?
Well, we just got a tornado warning, so if I can’t catch the episode until later, everyone enjoy!!! 😊
Markus Stark,
Awwww!! It will fly by!!!!!
It’s 2:16 am in Belgium and I can’t sleep.
Even JLO is watching! Hahahaha
Guys GOT is insane!!!!!
Pigeon,
Stay safe! Hopefully the tornado won’t happen and you’ll get to watch.
Chilli,
Sleep is for the weak! Hahahahaha
If I was in a different time zone, I wouldn’t be able to sleep either!!!
Just ordered a large cheese pizza with green peppers and onions. Have a 6 pack of jacks abby in the fridge. Ready for this!!
Oh my. Be safe.
Yay! Enjoy!
WOW! It must have been beautiful, but I hope there wasn’t too much damage! As I type, there is hail hitting my roof the size of golf balls!
Dee Stark,
Haha I hope !
Chuck,
Heck yeah it’s a pizza kinda night all around.
It’s almost time!!
Found this awesome Stark tribute on youtube & am now watching it on a loop until 2am (UK) comes around:
I CAAAAAANT
ok. 35 minutes until I have to go internet silent since I cant’ watch until tomorrow night. AHHhhhhhh… Must absorb as much GoT info as possible in the next 30 minutes!!!!11
HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE … I can’t contain it anymore I’LL TAKE THREE FOOKIN’ CHICKENS!
Have a Blast tonight everyone and be safe!
Will we see a cold open tonight?
Vigilist,
Ahhh good!!! That just gave me a shiver of hype, ready to be on the edge of my seat just watching the opening credits!! Lol
Thanks 🙂
I hope you’re not pirating, my dear Lord Parramandas? (wags finger – you might’ve seen my rant at somebody who was looking for a pirate site – his comment got deleted, mine didn’t)
Where I live, we officially get GoT on HBO Nordic cable and online 24 hrs after the North Americans, but experience has shown online (which is how I watch, I haven’t even got a TV set) it’s sometimes less than 24 hrs.
Is it a question of subtitling? Having done some myself way back when, I’d say a good, professional subtitler/translator needs 8-12 hours to subtitle one hour. I’m, of course, a horrible and disloyal person, not collegial at all, because anything in English or Swedish, I turn off the subtitles because they distract me from the real thing.
Yay, 37 minutes more for yis all North Americans… It’s +24hrs for me, gaaah!
I really need to go into lockdown soon, but my final shout out goes to Dee. The never spoiled! But now the season is finally here. ENJOY!
And now I really must absent myself because I don’t want to be spoiled by you all North Americans who get to see it 24hrs before us Europeans. (grump.)
Almost there
Sue the Fury,
Sorry, was watching a movie 🙂
I tried it again now.
Anyone use HBO Now last year? When does the ep become available?
So excited! I don’t post much but just wanted to say thanks to the admins for running this amazing site, and thanks to all the usual commenters for providing such interesting discussion to tide us all over in the off season. You guys are the best.
If anyone with a longer wait wants something with which to distract yourself, Neil De Grasse Tyson interviews Isaac, and a bunch of scientists, about the science of GoT on the latest episode of Star Talk. Isaac shares some perspectives on what’s going on with Bran (no spoilers, of course). I’m finding it a helpful way to pass the final hour:
https://www.startalkradio.net/show/science-behind-game-thrones/
Happy watching, all!
When I post only the link and no other code, just the http stuff, the link embeds. Sometimes. If there are multiple links, sometimes only the first is embedded. Let’s see what happens with this one link I share of your first link:
Red Viper,
Sorta close…across the lake from you 🙂
Of the old gods,
Of the old gods,
Jack Bauer 24,
You mean across the Narrow Sea!!
Ginevra,
Whatever you did worked. Thank you. Did you type only the address (www. etc.) or include the http:// in front?
Happy to be watching live for the first time since S1. There are few upsides to being back in the US, but this is one of them.
Onion Knight,
One could hope 😀 A girl might need
😀
Episode goes up on GO at 8:57…10 minutes!
Lions and dragons and imps, oh my!!!!
Awwww, friends. How long it’s been. 🙂
…do I still know anyone? Hello? Bueller?
WINTER!
BRING IT!
10 minutes!!!!
HBO Go, how does it work? My first time watching it live on intertubes. Logged in and wondering where it is.
Hexonx,
I didn’t, but I believe the episode goes live in under 7 minutes on HBO Now and Go!
New episode will be posted at 8:57
Ginevra,
Jack Bauer 24,
Thanks! I was getting nervous. Thought there would be some kind of countdown.
Daniellica,
We are family! 😉
Jack Bauer 24,
Thanks Jack! Visiting friends in the Catskills who just got wifi !
Enjoy the show my lovely ladies and gents!
Oh, definitely inclue the http://, yes. Just copy and paste straight from the address bar is what I do.
Hexonx,
I think you might have to refresh. Not certain.
LAST MINUTE STREAM OF CONSCIOUSNESS PREDICTIONS (seasonwide)
Bran: Falls in love with Meera
Meera: Ded (Starks + love = ded)
Jorah: Loses an arm
Dorne: One Sandsnake kills another
Jaime: #TeamTarg by end of season
Sansa: #TeamStark by end of season, kills or exiles LF
Arya: heads for KL before heading North
Dany: imprisons or kills at least one person we like… but kills a lot we hate
Tyrion: Frees Jaime from Dany’s cells after he’s captured
It’s here!
LAST MINUTE STREAM OF CONSCIOUSNESS PREDICTIONS (seasonwide)
Bran: Falls in love with Meera
Meera: Ded (Starks + love = ded)
Jorah: Loses an arm
Dorne: One Sandsnake kills another
Jaime: #TeamTarg by end of season
Sansa: #TeamStark by end of season, kills or exiles LF
Arya: heads for KL before heading North
Dany: imprisons or kills at least one person we like… but kills a lot we hate
Tyrion: Frees Jaime from Dany’s cells after he’s captured
QoT out. See you Tuesday
I knew she’d take his face!!!!!!!!!!!
Poison them all!!!!!
Damn, that season starts very awesome!
Oh Shit Arya
Bloody Hell … What an Opening!!!
We’re back Folks 😀
That’s a much more fun scene for David Bradley to go out on.
Holy shit, Giant wights!
Wun-wun-wight.
WIGHT GIANTS?!?!
Yup, they’re fucked.
Holy crap!!!!
Cold open! Where’s Edmure?
Dear God, I hope that’s how it plays out in the books. Go Arya!
No Lamnizter sigil in the opening?
Ye Gods, that’s a tough little girl. Kudos to Maisie, OMgoodness she makes every word/act believeable.
Who is that Giant? can’t be Wun Wun,
Sansa, I love you, but …
Night King fuck yeah!
Sansatrayal setup…
The last male left at the Twins? Then does that put him in charge? That would be great.
HBO… Direct TV… frozen.
Of course.
Grrrrrr.
Arya !!!!!!!!!!
My Princess!!!!!!!
❤️❤️❤️💛💛💛
Sansa has a good point but Jon made the right decision to exercise mercy.
Euron came to f*ck the queen! I don’t think Jamie will like it…
Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!
*cough*
I mean, this is going well.
Urgh… Poor Sam… He’s not having a nice start…
Sam living a fate worse than death right now ahahahahaha.
Poor guy 🙁
Sam was a steward. He’d be familiar with chamber pots by now, no?
So what’s Euron doing? He’s going to go hunt Dany?
No need really to show those damn turds! 💩 😱🙈
Pilou. ❤
Probably, yeah.
But manybe he’s hunting Yara, though that doesn’t make to much sense.
Poor Sam, assisting in an autopsy is probably the best job he’s had there.
Ed Sheeran!!! 😀
Silence looks awesome!
“I heard she beat the Hound in single combat.”
Wait…where did you hear that?
Soldier: “What are you going to do in King’s Landing?”
Arya drinks some blackberry wine ans says: “I’m going to kill the queen.”
Silence… Then all soldier slaugh… XD
Sean C.,
Podrick . . . probably
Uh-Oh… The Hound is back in the house from where he stole the gold of the man and his little girl…
If Dany’s landed how will the Euron naval battle in the trailers happen?
The Hound is damn lying XD
Or is he?
My dear Houndie….you done good. After you done bad, that is. Dammit.
Oh! That’s why Jon is going to meet the rightful queen…
Gravedigger!!!!!!!!!
The Hound being able to dig a grave when the ground is frozen is maybe the most unbelievable thing to happen on the show yet, heh.
Sean C.,
But the best reference ever…
Aha! Now we know where Jorah Mormont is!!!
I believe it is the Shovel of Light, works much like Beric’s sword. 😜
Dragonglass!
Jorah!!! In the Citadel!!! Snap!!!! Incarcerated!!!!
Well, this episode proved that knowing what will happen still doesn’t manage to make anything less exciting. 😃
You’re absolutely right! 😀
Is this the longest Peter Dinklage has ever been onscreen without saying anything?
WOw! What alot to take in 🙂
With little in the way of action, there were all sorts of nuggets and name-drops in that episode. Things that intrigued me…
White Walkers are going to breach the Wall at Eastwatch-by-the-Sea?
Mentions of the Dragonpit and ‘that Tourney’?
Arya meeting Lannisters and not killing them 🙂
…and the whole entrance into Dragonstone … and What is that chair called…??? 🙂
They blew it….. The final spoken words of “Dragonstone” should have been Tyrion saying…
“Welcome Home Queen Daenerys Targaryen”!!!!!!!!!!!!
Huh. No dedications for Peter Vaughan and Neil Fingleton. That’s kind of shitty.
Iain Glen was in the credits, right? And so Jorah reaching out of his cell for Sam is definitive, right?
NYMERRRRIIAAAAAAAA!!!!
Im betting THIS is what sends Arya back to WF, being reminded of her pack.
Gh3ttoK!nG.,
I’m Fearing for Tyrion. !!!
What better gift to give Cersei than her treacherous little brother…? 🙁
Oh my God. That opening scene with my girl Arya was intense. Although for a second I was confused. I thought I was watching 6×10.
Sansa and Jon seemed okay, folks!
That sequence with Sam! Thankfully I’ve already eaten by then. 😀
I kept on asking “where’s Dany?” Not enough of her in this episode but I got emotional when she arrived, finally, in Dragonstone.
Now what will I do until Sunday?
Sansa wasn’t as bad as I was expecting.
Imo she should have adressed Jon privately, but I don’t think she was that disrespectful to him.
They’re really going to play up the angle that Cersei has taught her a lot, huh…
DireWolfHeart,
Where???????
Was she in a preview for next episode???????
Please Tell Me!! Need to Know!!!!!!!!
Wow. WOW. WOW.
I can’t wait to watch that a zillion more times.
Gotta digest. See all you guys in comments in the morning.
Best premiere yet?
Vincent Stark,
In this particular instance, since Jon was making the decision right then and there, there wouldn’t really be an opportunity for them to speak privately about it.
Realistically, Jon should run by any topics he’s planning to talk about at the big meeting with her in advance, if he wants them to be on the same page at the meeting itself.
I’m ten minutes behind… But so far Sansa’s been great!!! Jon too. And kickass little Lyanna M
That was a PHENOMENONAL premiere. Loved every second of it! My favorite of the entire series, give or take Two Swords. I’m off to watch it again right now!
Interesting episode, lot’s of cool moments, lot’s of nice slower paced moments. I liked how they devoted a continuous set of time for each set of characters; didn’t feel rushed. Thought the Jon and Sansa scenese were great and believable. Arya scenes were epic as always. The scenes with the Hound, Thoros, and Beric were pretty damn interesting. Nice to see the Hound attempt to atone for his past and of course the visions he had in the fire.
I think this premiere succeeded in setting up the tone and plot lines for this season.
Yeah it was Jorah
Euron much better this year. Ok, this is good, uh oh, I think he just may have said the right things to get Cersei’s interest. Some great lines there, lol
Well the deal with Freys worked out ok, not that it was really needed.
Glitchy story logic as to how that got set up .
Keep expecting Edmure Tully to be part of this, so guessed wrong there.
Inside the Episode:
🙂
Well, to be fair, that farm house was in the Riverlands so Winter would have just blown in and fast. The ground wouldn’t necessarily be frozen yet, or the frost depth wouldn’t be more than a ‘crust’ at least.
Also please remind me to never eat again while watching a Sam scene
That is true, but she needed to do it privately.
Wow where to start – Arya! (any bets that she poisons the lannisters and takes their faces?) WunWun wight! Jorah! Poor Sam at least Arya just needed to keep the floor clean. Dragonstone! Euron! Oh my………Must see the repeat later.
In the preview for the next episode there was a quick clip of Tyene stabbing somebody
so…how did Jorah beat Dany to westeros.
Tyrion has been officially labelled “The Gift”. 🙂
Gh3ttoK!nG.,
Oh that was sad, but not surprising. Good on him for giving them a good burial, and who would have guessed he’d be able to read the flames!
Euron:
Loved the “So here I am, with a thousand ships and two good hands” jibe at Jaime!
Jack Bauer 24,
Is he actually locked up, or is that a kinda Oldtown Quarantine cells?? Surely he’s going to be cured??
Ginevra,
The silhouette looked like Jorah to me.
Boojam,
Arya as Walder set it up. (S)he said he invited them all to the feast. As Walder she could order anything of his family.
Jared,
Me too! Surprisingly Hound-centric.
Maybe he’ll be the Warrior of Light after all.
So the Hound reads the flames better than Melisandre!
He does have an association with fire.
I think this episode could have easily been called “The Father” Jon and Sansa talked about Ned Stark… Cersei mentioned Tywin Lannister and Lannister family. Daenerys arrives at Dragonstone where the Targaryens are from… even The Hound mentioned the Faith of the Seven 1st God The Father.
Great 1st episode but not sure if Dragonstone is as good as Two Swords.
So the “Sansa Jon feud” was simply a bunch of lies and shit to divert attention?
Sansa was reasonable, apart from criticizing him in front of the lords. She was pretty sweet if firm with him after.
Dany’s homecoming:
Was that Euron arriving at Dragonstone in the episode 2 preview with Dany over looking or was that her Greyjoy fleet?
ash,
Wait That was Sally (rabbit stew cook) and her father the farmer from whom he stole the silver? Right before Arya called him the Worst Sh-t in the 7 Kingdoms?
Fantastic opener. Wow! Drama, Humour, spectacle, feels!!! I’m already feeling the extended airtime for the core characters, loved the pacing, appreciate it had to set up.
“Shall we begin?” Yassss bish do what you were born to do.
That cold open was just… There are no words. I’ve always hoped that red wedding 2.0 would happen and now it finally has!
The look on Jaime’s face when Euron proposed marriage was just priceless. One of those little moments that make the show so above and beyond.
The Hound saw Eastwatch by the Sea getting attacked by the WW!? I guess that pants wettingly frightening letter Jon gets from there about “dead things in the water” in the books is going to be shown on screen! I’m excited, but I don’t want Tormund to die 🙁
I’m hoping we’ll eventually get to see the dragonglass candle at the Citadel.
Loved the mostly dialogue free homecoming. So cool to see dragons at dragonstone!
The only fault I could find with the whole episode is that the trailer for the next episode gave us practically nothing! Best premiere yet. The shortened season may prove to be a good thing as it will be on overdrive. No filler.
Ginevra,
Thanks SO much for this 😊
In Sandor we trust.
Told ya Pilou would nail it this season. 😜
Why was Euron dressed like Michael Jackson?
Started REAL strong, then went a bit boring, then became completely unwatchable in Oldtown, and then it was a relief to go back to boring.
Is the moral of the Lannister troops starting to fade?
That was an odd scene with Arya.
Did Arya leave her Uncle rotting in the Frey dungeon?
Bearded Onion,
Yes! I quite liked the sibling ribbing of each other. Quite playful actually. Also felt the subtle tension again, yes I know it’s wrong and doesn’t exist but I don’t know, I felt it.
The Frey family slaughter was setup right after the Red Wedding when Bran told the story of the Rat Cook and how his unspeakably horrific punishment was because he broke guest rights. From that point on, we’ve known the Freys would be wiped off the face of Westeros. It has been a long time coming.
Louie,
It is well worth the wait. Definitely picks up where everything left off what was that more than a year ago.
p.s. thank you for your service.
Is that a Wight Wun Wun?? Wun Wun fell in Winterfell and I’m sure Jon, of all people and crew burnt all of the bodies after TBOTB apart from Rickon, whom is to be (was?) buried in the Crypts.
Could is be another unnamed giant? Great opening episode!
OH, this scene made me so very, very happy!!!!
Although, I did get confused when David Bradley’s face first appeared.
Ultimately, satisfied!!! It made staying off this site for a year worthwhile. 🙂
Because he’s Bad. 😈
I loved the premiere.
So does Dany listen to Yara and send her fleet to KL and that’s when they run into Euron and have the naval battle?
No…. close but too much Samwell and his day job
I was wondering what he meant! Duh.
Godswood,
There were two, possibly three giants pictured. I’m sure the Northmen and wildlings burned all the dead from the Bob.
No boobs, no butts, no cocks.
Grade C-
Would have been a D but we got Jon bitchslappin’ Sansa.
They’re trying so hard to sell Sansa teaming up with Littlefinger and betraying Jon that I’ve become more convinced of my longstanding theory. That Sansa will kill LF or have him killed and although she may consider betraying her family, she will not. Giving her the speech about how the lone wolf dies and the pack survives solidifies it.
Vincent Stark,
Yup! She even seemed genuinely proud of how he’s doing with the way he’s ruling when they were talking privately. Jon was being the typical older brother ‘castigating’ his little sister. 😊 I even found myself saying, “listen to her Jon” but we can’t fault him too because he’s so preoccupied by this ww threat at the moment.
He’s in a greyscale quarantine to which the only release is death, I suspect. But Sam will fix that.
Boojam,
I’m thinking it’s purpose was to show her re-humanizing. It’s difficult to hate people you can sympathize/identify with, much easier to hate a faceless enemy.
Maybe. They strike first before Cersei sends ships to attack Dragonstone.
Boojam,
I loved the scen w Arya and the Lannister ‘men’. She was planning on killing them but she realized they r just kids and pawns. They were good ppl and we heard a little of their suffering.
Boojam,
That was more of a “innocent people fight for every side at war”
Arya learned that being Lannister soldiers didn’t make them automatically awful people who she should kill.
Yeah.
Figured those were ‘ancient’ giant dead , no Wun Wun.
Ten Bears,
Gotta be. Its the same general location where they were. He recognized the house, and he remembers what he did. I could be wrong; but he obviously thinks they are the ones he stole from and left to die.
That Sam montage was art.
Giants have been roaming around north of the Wall since the dawn age… I’m sure the WWs could have easily procured some along the way.
Rygar,
There was a dick, on the deceased masters corpse. So even less sexy than the warty penis of the actor in Braavos.
ash,
She won’t poison them. She accepted food and drink from them; they’re protected by the compact of guest right. That’s why she refused the rabbit at first – she was thinking of killing them. Then they became human to her and she accepted their invitation. Which is a hopeful sign that she’s not entirely lost to her own humanity.
Jack Bauer 24,
I think I’d rate both “Winter is Coming” and “Two Swords” above this one, but it’s definitely up there.
Totally thought the same!!!
Jack Bauer 24,
We didn’t …. sad face!
Sam,
I love them!
Loved Sansa silencing LF lool!
LOVED Sam undertaking menial tasks, that bit had me rolling. John killed it.
Loved everything to do with the Hound, he has the best lines, always.
Loved that the Dragonstone scene was silent, felt awe-inspiring. Beautifully directed.
Pilou was brill, Euron was taunting Jamie and I was living!
I feel like I missed some more, can’t wait to rewatch.
weirwoodtreehugger,
It went too fast for me, but I did see a glimpse of a direwolf – Nymeria?
Flayed Potatoes,
The show has become increasingly stylized in the last couple of seasons. Not that I’m complaining or anything.
Great opening episode. Cold opening was amazing and the rest was a fantastic set up for what’s to come.
I’m sure that’s not Wun Wun, they showed 3 undead giants so I’m betting they were just picked up along the way.
Random thought about the gift. Tyrion seems the most likely, but, and I’m not a book reader just an avid WotW comment reader, what if a certain horn makes its debut? A dragon would be a swell gift.
Ice Dragon,
Ugh…. used wrong email… ;(
Dany are you ok? You ok? You ok, Dany?
Euron’s way hotter this season. Just sayin’…
Arya should have removed Edmure from his jail cell. .. one blunder that remains a mystery
Godswood,
Maybe the giant at castle black?
I think that’s what they’re implying, as Arya was the next shot. *fingers crossed*
In the Previously On when Arya cut Frey’s neck, my daughter noted how Arya could take his face, something I’d been theorizing even before we saw her kill Lord Frey, truth be told, though using Frey’s face to get Jaime is no longer an option. Using Ed Sheeran’s face, on the other hand… And then using Jaime’s face to get Cersei might fulfill valonqar, right?
And so the moment we saw Bradley, we were both screaming at the top of our lungs!!!!! And the moment the women started pouring wine everywhere was when I knew that poison would be Arya’s form of retribution.
They showed a night clip of Euron’s fleet and then showed a day scene right after with Dany overlooking a Greyjoy fleet in the episode 2 preview. Was that Dany fleet or Euron’s arriving?
ohhhhhhh, speaking of bad!
I really really really hope this is what will happen. And the Stark revenge will be complete. Imagine, it’s going to be the Stark ladies avenging what happened to their family. Yes!
Jorah’s present to Dany goes round and round!
I loved Sam’s Citadel’s sequence.
Shit-eat-dump-retch-books-clean-retch! Yeah! Shit-eat-dump-retch-books-clean-retch! Yeah!
Ginevra,
TY Ginny!
That was a good one. What a cold opening! And we saw the NK and his army on the march. Good thing Bran is keeping tabs on them. So Arya is still locked in on her target. I definitely think after this episode the Jon and Sansa at odds with each other thing was just mostly smoke and no fire. She just wants her brother to hear her. Littlefinger is going to be in a lot of trouble if he steps out of line with this lady Stark. She will act like Cersei and not Catelyn. For a moment I was thinking Sam needed his very own Hermione and invisibility cloak to get into the restricted section. It was good we saw Sam but what in seven hells was that gross segment about. Pure nonsense. They wasted a good minute on that it felt like. Littlefinger’s catspaw valyrian dagger was in Sam’s book. He missed that. Jon has Davos who knows all about the dragonglass at Dragonstone. That letter to Jon is quite redundant.
The Dragons were at the end flying over Dragonstone.
oh – ok, good point, that.
I agree. But after she betrays Jon and the Wildlings. As part of her redemption.
Jack Bauer 24,
YESSSSSSSSS
OH MY God
Loved all Arya and The Hound scenes!
Lyanna_Targaryen,
SAMEEEEEEEE
DIISJEZJIELALSKSOWOEJJEJSKAKAKAKWO
I don’t think it’s lies. Sansa’s reaction to being underestimated and ignored is totally understandable. And Jon’s attitude is as well – he grew up with a perception of how the world works and his role in it 9and women’s role in it). He’s growing – we see it in his interactions with Lyanna Mormont, but not as much with Sansa.
And LF is fanning the flames of her insecurity and frustration. My guess is this builds throughout the season where Sansa comes to a crossroads – betray her family or stand with them. I think she does indeed betray them, but somehow makes up for iy and “rejoins the pack”.
Entirely a guess. I have stayed unspoiled throughout the offseason :).
Tywin dies and even the men in the Lannister army have become so decent. Yes, I know not everyone is bad but this was the first time where they showed the light side.
On another note, I wish they had brought back Edmure.
The daytime clip looks like Dany’s fleet because it looks like the sails are down like they are parked at Dragonstone. I maybe wrong.
The night clip could be an ambush by Euron. He probably knows they are at Dragonstone. The other trailer showed the firey sea battle at night.
Sean C.,
He has his own whispers duh
Markus Stark,
The dead don’t sleep
Fierce as a Wolverine,
NIce pick-up 🙂
If I was going to argue, I’d say you have to offer salt and bread before guest rite is activated but glad that Arya didn’t kill them and still has her humanity left 🙂
…….just blew me away….
that cold open with Walder had me going “huuuh” then he started talking.. and as soon “he” said all the Freys were there i was like “ARYA..go on with your bad ass self!!!” and the end.. “..tell them Winter came for house Frey”…. the Starks have their own “Castamere” now 🙂
loved the Winterfell scenes..Jon/Sansa was totally believable and carried over nicely from last season. a little rivalry to be sure.. but there is a trust slowly growing there. and loved seeing Sansa close down Littlefinger’s attempt at Jedi mind trick and showing her trust in Brienne..
King Landing bit played well for me too..but its obvious there are some issues in Twin Town and they are only gonna get worse. euron scenes were EXCELLENT..love me some snarky sexy villian hehehe
The Hound and BWB was very interesting, not at all what I expected..especially the Hound “reading” the fire…(and was happy to feed my current obsession with Richard Dormer too hehe)
The Arya and Oldtown scenes were well done, but slow for me which is fine . Ed sheehan “cameo” was pretty good actually but spent the whole old town segment waiting for Jorah lol
and then… Dragonstone. With that music and those different shots and sets you felt EVERY emotion from all of them, and then “shall we begin” I was TOTALLY in that moment (so much that the credits just BOOM.. rolling after that had me going “no wait, keep going!” lol)
excellent excellent episode..the best season opener GOT has ever done IMO
That only works in a house, I think. Didn’t she check out their swords after accepting food? But she definitely seemed to empathize with them.
http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Guest_right
I can’t give too much thoughts right now as I’m way too hyped and have work at 7am but that cold open had me confused… it resembled the red wddding right after the doors were shut.. I was so confused I thought it was a bran vision omg I can’t you guys
This was effing amazing I can’t!!!!!!!!!!!!
YESSSSS I LOVE THIS SHOW
Dee…what did you think of Euron?
Yes, it was the wine that sealed it!!! I was so hyped when I saw that! Go Arya!
Sandor-Ahai. *bows*
Shaz,
Yes I loved that bit between Sansa & LF too. And her saying “I know what he wants “. Ha! Sansa’s gonna use that against him for sure.
Good season premiere!
They had to set up the chess board for us and refresh all the casual viewers memories.
Can’t wait until we get rolling, reintroduction is over so now lets jam!!!
HereBeDragons,
Yes, there’s a split second glimpe of a grey direwolf snapping and snarling right after a scene of horses being ridden by soldiers out of a castle/fortress.
I’m betting that’s the reminder of family and impetus to go home for Arya.
:rewatching:
We got Hands of Gold!!!!!!!! And sung by Ed Sheeran!!!!!!!!! Sorry for the over-excitement, but that was just so AWESOME! How did I miss that on the first go?!!
Ice Dragon,
Hi, Icey!
Wun-wun not a wight, Mag the Mighty possibly. More likely it’s those killed in S4-09, or most likely just some randoms.
I am looking forward to seeing what Sansa Stark learned from Cersei Lannister and if it has anything thing to do with Jon Snow
I enjoyed Euron’s Jamie boner and the Arya opener was amazing. The episode I found was hit and miss.
Does anyone else dread the fact that this episode was really in line with the plot leak? Do you think the rest of the season will also follow the leak?
Jack Bauer 24,
Honestly… I still hate the character and he’s annoying me already but I’m impressed and sold right now on the story.
AM I supposed to like him? Hahahaha
The distracting Ed S. cameo aside, I thought it was a solid opening act. Lots of stuff put into place and more highlights than usual in an opening episode (certainly more than last season’s opener): Arya’s Walder Frey moment, the Hound returning to the scene of the crime and feeling the weight of his past, the Euron moment, Sam’s talk with the Arch Maester and the jump scare with Jorah, and finally Dany, the silent return, and closing on that ominous line, “Shall we begin?” Really amped for next week.
I have never been keen on any of the Damy stuff but that ending was beautifully shot. The “Shall we begin.” was way corny though.
The Arya open was gold and just what I have come to love about this show. I am loving, as usual, all the Sandor stuff. The nod to the “Gravedigger” was perfect and between Beric, Thoros and Sandor, the best bits of the episode for me. I really hope the BwoB stuff has a lot of meat this season. And fire just might become Sanfors friend.
For me. Two Swords easily tops this opener but a good start.
Sam,
Hiiiiiiiiii
I loved the scenes within Sansa and Jon and Sansa and LF. Her resemblance to cersei… HOLY!!
But I’m really scared. I dont know where this is going to go as I know it’s going to escalade !!!! AHHHHHHHHHH
Dee Stark,
Yeah I got confused a bit too. I thought it was a flashback from 6×10. 😀
I suspect that she gives this speech when she is bringing about LIttlefinger’s end. Otherwise, it makes no sense. The steps to get there could be complicated indeed, as you surmise.
AM I supposed to know the what that arrowhead the Hound was talking about is??????
HELP IM SCARED lol
No spoilers haha
Sam,
LOL friggin love it!!!!!!!!!
I’m delighted with this first episode! I need to settle down, watch it again and collect my thoughts before commenting or otherwise I’ll just be gushing. I’m so happy we have a new GOT episode!
Thanks Ginevra for posting the Inside videos!
Was that Nymeria in the previews? The short shot of a direwolf flashing by?????
I really hope the Night King has or finds the Horn of Winter and they don’t cop out and just have him go around the wall.
Hey guys, awesome episode as always. But I’m wondering what is going on in the Stormlands and the Reach?
But if Euron attacks Dragonstone wouldn’t Dany fleet be in the castle? The trailer showed a battle on ships so is her fleet sleeping on the ships lol?
Chad Brick,
Seems to me..u can always go back. Got is amazing no matter when or where
While it was happening I completely agreed (and still do to a point). Especially because I was snacking at the time!! But I think it meant to indicate the passage of time, and his convo with the arch-Maester illustrated he was trying to go through official channels to get what he wanted. It was meant to justify his sneaky actions. maybe this will be of importance later – I hope so because other wise I’m with you – a waste of valuable time.
And yet Davos said nothing when Jon talked about mining for dragonglass at the beginning of the episode.
Jorah. The gross duties led him to Jorah. And the dragon queen.
If I had to guess, I’d say probably something that Cersei said during the Blackwater about the most powerful weapon a woman has is between her legs. Sansa said to Brienne that she knows what LF wants. Maybe she will pretend to play along with him in order to take him down.
All that Arya and Hound awesomeness in that one episode has given me a permanent grin tonight. How freaking great was that opening??? And Sandor the Gravedigger?? I almost died. Ah, I’m so happy. I’ll catch up with the commentary tomorrow. Have a good night all! Fuck, that was so good…
Aryamad,
Me right now!!!!!!
I can’t deal
I thought the casting of Alys Karstark was genius. It was a small part in this episode, but she had a look very close to what I had imagined. And the emotion on her face was perfect.
Shall we begin
I think that scene was done to break Arya from wantonly murdering anyone with any association to anyone who had wronged the Starks. It refocused her on who it is she is seeking to exact justice/revenge on. Otherwise we might end up with her putting Needle through Podrick Payne (see: Payne, Illyn)
Dee Stark,
I was nervous at the start, esp the way they hyped the sibling rivalry in the interviews. But, I didn’t sense anything like that in their scenes. So I hope they don’t go full Starkbowl. 🙏 Of course, there’s still a part of me that’s like- so what will Jon do until he has to fight the walkers??? I hope it’s not by dragging the rivalry bit for most of the season.
I have no idea. I was just guessing. I hope they would not be that stupid.
Sam did mention the “mountain of dragonglass under Dragonstone.” A mountain of dragonglass arrowheads, perhaps? If R’hllor wanted to help then maybe…sort of coincides with Jon’s mission to the House maesters…
I still am amazed that Sandor was able to read the flames…great surprise for me. Stunned by the Hounds scenes. Gravedigger! He embraced the flames!
really good episode, with really good dialogues, e WHAT IS PILOU??? WHAT A F**** ACTOR.
The scenes of this episode were visually amazing as well as the editing. The dialog also seemed overall good. My favorite scene was Arya with the Lannister soldiers. I really hope she didn’t kill them offscreen.
Now, I think I am concerned with my mental health since I am starting to ship Cersei and Euron.
YES! He’s great haha.
Where were the Dothraki and Tyrell? And Dorne?
My daughter totally called the jump scare several seconds before it happened, as the music opened the scene! She is just frighteningly good.
So what part of the Sheeran scene didn’t you like? That he was too recognizable? He sang Hands of Gold! And if Arya does decide to kill them and take his face, Sheeran’s recognizability will work in his favor if we see him approaching Jaime in the next couple of weeks.
By the way, is your real identity KR? I won’t spell it out completely, but I’ve been wondering if KR = Ravyn since the con and should have introduced myself!
Well Sam is sending a raven about the Dragon glass at Dragonstone so
Ginevra,
You may be right. But she’s a Stark. They’re extremely honorable at their core. I’m sure Ned would have considered a campfire as good as a roof. 🙂
She may kill them all and it may in fact prove that she is lost to all decency. But I think the point was that she was able to see them as powerless human pawns, not faceless evil Lannisters. It seems like a clear counterpoint to that Season 4 scene where she walks up to the soldiers around the campfire and just kills them. (I’m totally biased towards Arya, though, so I want to believe the best of her. )
I guess we’ll see next week, though. Regardless, I dearly loved the fact that they all shared that laugh about killing Cersei.
thisgirlhasnoname,
The same perception that the other lords had when Lyanna says that girls will learn to fight too!! Looks like thats going to change – and with that perhaps he will do better with Sansa.
DireWolfHeart,
Just found it on Youtube.
Holy Seven Fires of R’hllor. NYMERIA!!! 🙂
Plus there’s the scene where Littlefinger’s done something to piss Jon off.
Roll on next week…. 😀
Okay but why should Jon listen to her? She obviously doesn’t understand the thread the White Walkers pose, she haven’t given him any valuable advice up to date. Sansa is lucky to be running around and doing and saying whatever she wants. Other rulers wouldn’t allow that from their siblings.
At least the rivalry isn’t that bad.
Ed Sheeran were singing Tyrion’s song, or the one I think his name was, Simon silver tongue wrote for him .
Onion Knight,
You keep all the onions and all your fingers tonight!! Arya cleaning house to open the season 🙂
I’ve not found a digital version of the preview for the next episode yet, but I look forward to it! ETA: Found it!!!
Watching on my TV, we see a great shot of a wolf that definitely isn’t Ghost and that cuts to Arya, pointing to it being Nym, yes. That and some interview comments confirm Nymeria, I believe.
I’m currently frozen on Tyene (I think someone said, definitely a Sand Sanke) fighting aboard what appears to be one of the ships. Whose side, whose ship, and whom she is fighting are all mysteries.
Royce seems opposed to pairing up with Dany, but Sam’s letter should seal that they must try, at least.
And someone choking Littlefinger!!! Jon? In the crypts?
So much in the preview, but it goes too quickly!
I did a fac book live video of my reaction to the episode while I watched … no spoilers though cuz I used the VR and headphones
👍😄
What should he do more for Sansa, she is already doing whatever she wants and it isn’t like he would make her marry someone. No other Kings would allow Sansa to do what she is doing. Of course it is funny how some people automatically assume he doesn’t listen to her because she is a women, while he has just announced that all girls sound train and he has no problems listening to Lyanna Mormont, and he never had any problems with Arya.
Sansa should try to treat him with respect like not speaking out of turn, then he might listen to her.
That was quite a beginning! All the players involved. Maisie’s scene was awesome as was Rory McCann. Not too crazy about Euron but then again, neither is Cersei. Looking forward already to next week!
I wonder what the rest of Sam’s story is going to be. It takes years to become a maester so I can’t see him staying at the Citadel for the rest of the show
Just rewatched the episode and noticed there was no foreboding about Bran passing thru the Wall with his Night King Tracker on his wrist.
Guess maybe it was just a temporary curse to break the spells to the Three Eyed Raven’s cave.
And if the Night King’s army is now seemingly going to Breach at Eastwatch-by-the-Sea, I’m wondering what that reference to a mountain shaped like an arrowhead, that the Hound sees is about??
I’m sure Jon will be all in as regards the preparations for the war to come but the writers might throw in some distractions there to add some drama. I hope not the stark fight! Oh there’s also the bit about Bran arriving at the wall. Jon’s gonna get a raven from Edd too. I wonder how he & Sansa will react to the news.
Before this show ends for good, I need a scene of Maisie in an inn, hearing the locals singing the song about the destruction of House Frey. Love that little badass.
What I loved:
What I liked:
-Map scene between Jaime and Cersei
What I disliked
-Overly long and weird Sam montage
-Not great dialogue
-No explanation of Arya Faceless Men magic (assuming voice, not just face)
What I hated
-Arya cold open
-Cheesy ending with no impact
Overall, it was a very meh and disappointing first episode. One that tells me that D &D don’t really even have an interesting 13 hours left to tell. It was a flat episode with a flat ending. No scenes really that interesting or great. It was mediocre and a bad harbinger of things to come 🙁
except Arya facing a WOLF!! that’s something to me!
Everyone mentioning how the wall has stood for thousands of years – the Grandmaester and Sansa, is that foreshadowing for
I could see how Jon would be upset with Sansa cutting in during the meeting, but she was totally reasonable and even complimentary to him after. She’s right, he does have to be smarter than Ned and Robb. That was a very interesting thoughtful look she had on her face when she said she learned a lot from Cersei. Where the heck are they going with that?
I watched the episode and the re-showing of the episode immediately after, and still haven’t gotten enough of it. So much stuff. Poor Sam, this wasn’t exactly the training he thought he would be getting, but he’s ever resourceful and managed to squirrel those books out of the Citadel, and found something already!! (Baby Sam is now toddler Sam and still adorable and Gilly looks wonderful.)
Arya at the Twins, settling the Red Wedding score, was excellent, the acting and the story. Winter has come for the Freys … that’s for sure. She’s so mature, so pretty, so together now, not at all the wild little harridan who jumped off her horse to stab Frey soldiers right after the RW. She’s, dare I say it, more of a lady now, yet deadly as ever.
Ed Sheeran, what a pretty song. He should have had more lines, they looked cute together. I thought she would be heading toward Winterfell, but she seems very determined to get to KL to get at Cersei. I wonder what will change her mind?
“I’m here, offering a thousand ships and two good hands”
What a magnificent bastard. The look on Jaime’s face was priceless.
Maester Peyatt,
I’m hoping he’s going to find a document that proves Rhaegar married Lyanna, and maybe reference to Jon’s birth, in the exclusive chamber.
You’d want to run to your best mate with proof of that 😀
Just watched the scene of Arya and the Lannister soldiers again. The boys weren’t much older than her, and her face – especially when the one guy talked about his wife just having a baby and he hoped it would be a girl to take care of her poppy – almost brought me to tears again.
We did need to see Arya the spunky, incorrigible daddy’s girl again. Last season the badass Arya was fun to see emerge, but we also saw a touch of madness when she assassinated Walder Frey (and now, his relations). She lost a piece of herself and her identity…we saw it unfold. Something had to ground her, remind her that not all people are evil – even on the enemy side.
That and the scenes with The Hound may be my favorite of the episode.
Ehhhh…this episode was very poorly done. I mean how many shit bowls do we need to see? How many shovels of dirt to bury the bodies? How much deep discussion with a dead body opened up? Was very unneccesarily slow throughout. I didn’t need to see 10 action scenes to be happy but didn’t need to see Samwell dragging his feet around in the hallways forever! Was hoping Dany scene would be better than the rest but was 5 minutes of her and Tyrion staring at walls…..ohhh this episode was such a let down!
Okay I’m barely awake but I saw it.Loved it.Even when you know everything it’s still amazing.I know I should nitpick lol but all of it was good,even Euron.I missed Jon so much I nearly started crying when I saw him again.They are so annoying with the Jon and Sansa thing offscreen but it looked fine onscreen.They are such typical siblings lol.She shouldn’t have disagreed with him in front of everyone and that’s what annoyed Jon but everything else was fine.
Someone remind me is the Ned quote from the books or from the show because I remember hearing it but I don’t recall where??
Next episode looks intense.
The Vale guy:We can’t trust a Targaryen
Jon:Wellll
Boudica,
I personally think that Sansa seems like the smart one, like he should listen to her. What she said about Ramsays tactics, that Rickon was dead already and Jon should be wary not to do whatever it was Ramsay was baiting him to do, she was right.
Obviously it made a lot of ppl uncomfortable, watching her question him. And I think that would be best done in private. But when she told him he needs to be smarter than Ned and Rob, basically that he can’t just do what’s right and honorable, I think the show is showing us she is right. He should listen to her. I guess we shall see.
I never thought Bran would be the villain, which bringing down the Wall would make him. And so I’m glad to see Issac was trolling us with his wrist-Wall comments.
I’m very curious about the arrowhead-shaped mountains, as well! Could these be the Frostfang mountains that border the west of the Wall while Eastwatch borders the east? Are the wights divided in their attacks to breach the Wall? I’m so confused.
So…. Arya was successfully posing as the Lord of the Riverlands, with an enormous army at her beck and call, and she just wasted it on cheap revenge? If she’s so anxious to get back at the Lannisters, why didn’t she order the Frey army to march on King’s Landing or at least Casterly Rock to take out two enemies at once?
Leave it to Game of Thrones to deliver a wonderful season opener while dangling numerous treats and reunions ahead.
If you ask me, this premiere was reasonably paced not only because it was forecasting and setting up later events, but also because the rest of the season will probably be incredibly more fast-paced. That’s been a constant message the showrunners have been giving us so it’s nice to see that transition will take place after they’ve given us an episode that has momentum we’re typically used to.
LatrineDiggerBrian,
not great dialogue??hated arya open?? jaquen had voice change too in s5. You really watching the wrong show for you.
Sean C.,
Christ. You watch an episode of this show, and this is the kind of trivial, utterly inconsequential nonsense that you fixate on?
I pity your viewing experience. I truly do.
LatrineDiggerBrian,
Very unneccesarily long scenes of nothing happening. Was probably the worst season premiere in all of GOT.
Except this is the equivalent of episode 4 in a full length season.
I wouldn’t have even noticed Ed Sheerhan if it weren’t reported on here. I’ve never listened to any of his music. I just know from reading dlisted.com that he’s friends with Taylor Swift.
Yes. I’m kind of old.
And I can’t believe I forgot to squee over Alys Karstark being in the mix. I know it’s not a surprise since the casting news made it pretty obvious that she would be in, but still. Is she just there to bend the knee to Jon though? Or will there still be a strategic marriage in her future?
crimethink,
Arya’s not thinking lightyears ahead. Her quest for vengeance is hers and hers alone. And although her family’s will is nestled somewhere in her resolve, her bloodlust is the main thing driving her impulsiveness.
Loved it!
– cold open: yaasss Arya!! The North Remembers!!!
– much better Euron!!
– Alys Karstark 🙂
– love that they brought back perspective on the common people with the dead father/daughter and the soldiers
– maybe in hindsight it will seem slow but I’m relieved to see a lot of focus on characters and good dialogue and not just flying through action
And Nymeria previews!! 😃
This is part of why Arya spent her due time in Braavos. To pull this off required that long period of time (that some deemed boring) to give her the skill to do this. A couple of episodes wouldn’t have made it seem plausible. Nice touch with the Lannister soldiers afterwards – proving she isn’t just a ruthless killing machine as some speculated. It is all a part of the plan. Bravo bravo Braavos!!!!!!!!! Arya and Sandor-Ahai were my heroes this episode. Jon/Sansa scenes were well done. Welcome to the jungle, Sam. You’re not quite dead, Jorah. Um….ok I liked everything.
I took it to show that Sam is not taking well to the drudge work he’s been given, that all the glamour he thought there would be in studying to be a maester is turning out to be shit, literally. Now that he’s found some important info for Jon, it’s only a matter of time for him to weigh whether or not he will stay for his “dream” training or take off. I figure that Jorah is going to have something to do with his decision to leave. He will take a minute to weigh what he’s leaving against seeing and being with Jon again.
You know the bedpans and blood are going to lose to being with Jon.
crimethink,
Be that as it may it is still a premiere episode and had all the pieces that a season opener usually has.
Aguero,
Yeah but Jaqen was a full fledged House of B & W member that had already acquired the magic somehow. I guess Arya did, but we never really learned how. It would almost seem like she would have to pay a price to acquire such a thing, but i guess not?
It’s a shame they had done a really nice job on the Faceless Men and House of B & W and I was loving it, but they totally fucking botched the ending to that storyline in such a massively depressing way 🙁
Excellent episode all around ! Truly brilliant !
Arya… On a personal, emotional level, her killing all the Frey men saddens me. There is now such a high body count attached to this still so very young girl… However, I can get behind the way she did it. In style, it was as close to an execution as she could get given her resources and it lacked the manifest sadism associated with her massacre of Walder and his elder sons.
As for her encounter with the Lannister soldiers, it was beautiful. She saw kindness and realised how much she yearns for it… It is never too late to come back !
Sidenote : since when does Arya know how to “magic up” faces ? I cannot recall us ever getting any indication she knew how to do that. Convenient (and inexplicable) knowledge is convenient (and inexplicable)…
Cersei : Oh boy is she determined ! She gets the situation she is in and she is going to play every card she has. I sense greatness coming.
Jaime’s attempt to talk about Tommen was genuinely moving. He discovered he wanted to be a father through his interaction with Myrcella and she was immediately taken away from him ; and now it is the same tragedy with his youngest son. Poor man !
Euron is growing on me, big time ! Mad as a chair, utterly inappropriate and hilarious.
The Citadel : Sam is as adorkable and dedicated as ever. Little Sam is reaching dangerous levels of cuteness and Gilly is her superb self. And, of course, Jorah ! What a visually stunning way to reintroduce the character !
Daenerys : yes, we shall begin 😉
The North : fantastic ! The conflict between Jon and Sansa is exactly what I had hoped for. It is entirely justified, interesting and not mean-spirited.
Jon’s decision to forgive the Karstarks and Umbers is perfectly understandable and so is Sansa’s argument that loyalty should be rewarded. The siblings are basically focusing on two very different aspects of the King in the North role : he is dedicated to leadership (values being followed, like a leader needs to be) and she has her eyes on rulership (keeping the dogs fed/obedient at all time).
I truly enjoyed that Sansa is disagreeing with him out of a desire to spare him the mistakes (and fate) of Ned and Robb. Had the previous King in the North paid more attention to the redhead lady next to him, he would not have died like he did ! On a more thematic level, she is showing signs of no longer following blindly the Stark patriarch’s example. Ned did make many stupid mistakes : Sansa has made her peace with that and wants to avoid repeating them; Jon is not yet over his Ned-worship (he is still quoting him, for Pete’s sake !)
I greatly appreciated that the two siblings are remarkably good at irritating and frustrating the hell out of each other : Sansa contradicted Jon in public and he retaliated by privately dismissing the idea of ever listening to her.
Littlefinger’s subtle perception of Sansa’s emotions is delightfully in character. She is safe but she is not happy, indeed. With a kingly brother who just mocked the very notion of ever paying attention to her advice, she is bound to feel undermined, humiliated. For the moment, she can take it but if she is proven right… That unhappiness will have consequences. And “I’ll assume it was something clever” was a barb worthy of Olenna ! 😛
Sidenote : Lady Karstark is far too Sansa-like for it to be an accident. Same hair colour and length, same age, same body type (or so it seems), etc. For anyone who knows them, they are obviously very dissimilar but for someone who would have been given a description of either one, the other would fit the bill just as well. Cersei wants to kill Sansa and there is someone who looks a lot like her at Winterfell.
I sense foreshadowing.
Sidenote 2 : Best line of the episode goes to Tormund’s precious « you are lucky » directed at Pod.
The Hound : best part of the episode ! His evolution is both heartwrenching and uplifting. He is Still as gruff and cynical as ever but he buried “his” dead and, even though he could not remember the “proper” words Brother Ray taught him, he found the right ones, extracting them from a place of sincerity and compassion. He is following down the past his friend showed him, in his own way. Sandor Clegane, you magnificent human being !
And he is learning to domesticate his pyrophobia. I am almost tempted to subscribe to Ten Bears‘ theory in regards to Azor A’hai.
Chamush,
Yeah spot on. I get that the opener is set up, but there was just no interesting set up and not many interesting scenes.
Posing as Lord Walder long enough to call people to a feast and convince them to drink a toast is one thing. Ordering an army to attack Casterly Rock or King’s Landing is totally different.
1) It would make no sense. While the Freys surely know that their lord is not very trustworthy, attacking the Lannisters at this point would be an absolutely idiotic and pointless betrayal. People would question it, and one of the Frey sons might decide it was time to pull a Ramsay Bolton and replace their father.
2) The Frey army is incompetent.
3) The other lords of the Riverlands don’t like the Freys much. If Arya wants their help attacking the Lannisters, the better choice would be to massacre the Freys, release Lord Edmure, and convince him to rally the River lords.
LOVED IT!!
Arya in opening-she was channeling Tywin a little right? The reference to sheep AND some Reynes of Castamere vibes. Also loved her scene with the young soldiers.
The Hound scenes. The gravedigger nod, the FIRE! Loved it all.
Lyanna Mormont should rule the world, but if she can’t Jon should because he is always rooting for equal rights for women and/or wildlings 🙂 I can’t wait for more of him.
Jaime…sigh…seriously how much is enough for him to admit he’s in a dysfunctional relationship with a narcissistic psycho? Let Euron have her and get ye North buddy.
Sam is in the restricted section. Perfect. But I think Gilly has the book he needs to read 🙂 Also JORAH meets Sam! I had a feeling he’d end up in Oldtown for the cure. I hope he’s getting it and they aren’t just keeping him in isolation.
I really hope Bran gives us another flashback this season *crossing everything*
I need to watch it again because I loved what someone said earlier about the 7 and 7 episodes in season 7 and this was the Father…
I still think The Wall is coming down
Chamush,
no, was actually the best by the side of WiC e 2 swords
Since greyscale-survivor Shireen Baratheon taught Gilly to read, I think she will discover the cure in books that Sam brings home. I further predict that Gilly will be come a v-e-r-y significant character:
The WWs are her brothers/uncles/cousins/whatever. According to Craster, lil’ Sam is his Son No. 100. Apparently, the NK has no other source of heirs to perpetuate his icy legacy. Does he still want to claim him?
Besides, Gilly grew up at Caster’s Keep, so she must have learned some handy info there—maybe a key piece of the big-picture puzzle. Oooh… I just remembered that Sam once gave her his mother’s thimble. If she still has it, I wonder whether/how it might be useful in the future.
Like the other women in the HBO series, I think her status will grow from ignored, pitied “wilding know-nothing” to one of respect for intelligence and leadership. May she, Sam and their family live happily ever after, perhaps at Horn Hill!
She saved Jon’s ass by delivering the Vale army – against all her personal instincts. No, she didn’t tell him about LF and she should have. She’s stuck between naive, jealous, insecure girl and intelligent, strategic and experienced woman. And she’s making big mistakes because of it. But she does have valuable insight – first into Ramsay (“he’ll bait you into making a mistake” – and he did with Rickon) and now into Cercei (e.g. “don’t ignore the threat”). Jon’s treating her like the naive girl without recognizing her value as a woman of experience, as bad as those experiences have been.
Ginevra,
The interesting thing is, the fire sparked just before he saw the Arrowhead mountain, so maybe it was a different vision but still the dead are walking past it.
Confused too … but betting we;re going to ‘see’ that Arrow Mount before the shit happens 🙂
::waves to you in the Catskills from the Gunks, not so far away::
Well, I mostly liked that a lot. Except Euron. Letting Pilou Asbaek mug and caper around a bit did nothing to dispel my first impression that I don’t care for his acting at all. Hope that character gets killed off as early in the season as possible.
But seriously, am I the only one really excited about Jim Broadbent being in it already? Looks like they’re going to take advantage of having him on board and give him plenty of lines. He’s such a wonderful character actor! It’s a treat.
I’m glad they gave a goodly hunk of time to the BwB as well. Houndie gravedigging was a nice shout-out to readers, even if the soil being that easy to work in winter did indeed seem improbable. They’ve gotten as explicit as they could ever need to about Sandor being on a redemption arc; now we can just watch it play out.
That episode tends to confirm my suspicions that the talk about Jon and Sansa being adversaries has been way overblown. I saw nothing worse than normal sibling squabbling there. And I loved when she shut Baelish down, telling him he could can his witty last word in the argument. Seems like she learned a trick or two from the Queen of Thorns as well as from Cersei.
Sorry for Peter not to have any lines, but I enjoyed watching him be more immediately fascinated by the stone dragon carving than by the map table.
Can anybody make out whom Yara’s kissing in the preview for next week? Is that Ellaria?
Aguero,
Don’t worry. Brian is a long time troll who Debbie downers all the episodes.
True, but from only one old man, not a whole hospital full of them, with a variety of sickness. And when he was a steward, he garnered more respect than he is at the Citadel. Come on, Sean C, don’t be so dour/sour. This is great TV. Watch it with us.
I’m loving all of the Sansapologists! Prepare defenses now because there will be a lot of apologizing to do soon….
QBobby,
Ingesting DRAGONGLASS CURES GRAYSCALE!!!
Jack Bauer 24,
It absolutely deserves to be in the conversation. Perhaps there wasn’t as much action as some might have been expecting (save for that amazing cold open), but I found every scene to be rich with portent and extremely consequential for the characters involved. Above all, season premieres need to set the stage for what’s to come, and this episode accomplished that task with flying colors, in my estimation.
When you are Faceless, all armies are your armies. She can become anyone. She chooses any easy target who can get close to Jaime and bam, she’s Jaime. And then she has the queen. And then she has the queen’s armies.
Jenny,
The “everything before the word but” line?
Benjen quoted that same line in a convo with Tyrion, in the third episode “Lord Snow” (I think).
Ingesting DRAGONGLASS CURES GREYSCALE!!!
Jared,
I agree! Great great premiere. I was immensely satisfied if nothing else.
Felt a little weird to not see or hear anything about Edmure before Arya left the Twins. Unless maybe he was at Riverun? Hopefully we can get some closure on that matter. That seems like a fairly large plot thread to not be given any closure. I guess there is still time, but Arya has obviously left and was “heading to King’s Landing”, so I’m not confident. I mean is he just going to be left locked up? Was he sent to Casterly Rock??? I know he’s a relatively minor character in the show, but they made such a big deal of him last season with the whole blackfish/Jamie storyline you would expect something. Plus it was rumored he was going to appear, although he isn’t confirmed.
What?
Good points. Made me feel a tad better about Braavos. Arya and the Lannister soldiers – I thought she was going to attack them or they were going to attack her, but it turned out to be a friendly exchange. Showing that humanity still exists, not only in Arya, but in others as well. Nice to know.
Did you like Bran, Meera and Edd? I like anything with any of the three of them. Meera looks great with longer hair. Maybe she’ll finally get something to eat that isn’t moss. Wondering why they didn’t mention Bran being Jon’s brother? Edd looks the part of Lord Commander now, doesn’t he? He’s walking taller, and seems serious and competent instead of … dolorous.
I thought the episode was pretty damn good. Maybe others thought less of it because nobody died. Did they, can’t remember. That’s got to be a first.
thisgirlhasnoname,
He isn’t dismissing the Cersei threat longterm.He is just saying that the Night King is a much bigger threat at the moment which is true.That is not much they can do against Cersei anyway apart from securing their borders.And he is only upset that she defied him in front of his subjects.Every ruler would be because it undermines your authority.She can say anything to him in private and he’ll listen.Remember what Dany said to Jorah and Barristan at Astapor?Like Jaime had some looks on him lol but he didn’t undermine Cersei when she was talking to Euron only in private.
Holly shit…there is a Targaryen in Dragonstone!!!!!
We shall begin!!!!!
Arya will kill Dany.
ACME,
Excellent review! Almost total agreement.
Chamush,
Yeah that was pretty gross, but similar to Arya’s day after day of cleaning the floor in HOBAW. I suspect that will change for him like it did for her. Esp after he discovers Jorah!
When Arya brought back the Waif’s face and put it in the Hall last season, we knew she knew how to take a face off. A season before that, I think, is when she stole her first face from the Hall, and so that told us she knew how to put a face on. When she killed and stole the girl’s face who waitressed for Lord Frey and Jaime at the end of last season, we knew that she had the ability to put it all together. And when she killed Lord Frey by slicing his neck open but leaving his face unharmed (repeated for us in the Previously On), we knew she could have taken Walder’s face, if she wanted. And that she did!
Why doesn’t Davos say anything about Dragon glass at Dragonstone?
I do too, and earlier than we think it will. Too many comments about the Wall having been there for thousands of years, and “we are safe because of the Wall.” That sucker is cracking and toppling and real soon, imho.
Thx for that. There are some wonderfully quirky insights presented there…(especially considering the book twist with “Gilly’s” baby). I like it! 🙂
True, Jaime didn’t directly disagree with Cercei, but his skepticism of the alliance was made plain and he tried to antagonize Euron.
Now that you mention it, there are some interesting parallels and contradictions between those scenes.
The cold open with Arya was amazing and a great kick off for the new season!
Samwell….I almost peed my pants laughing. Funniest scene in GOT ever. And I thought Arya’s internship sucked.
I cannot wait for a Hound/Arya/Sansa reunion. And what will happen when he sees Brienne? That Mike Tyson move she pulled on him during their mountain smackdown was epic.
And Jamie’s facial expressions during the Euron proposal scene!
Does anyone think we might get a Rhaegar/Lyanna flashback?
And is Brienne disgusted by Tormund? Or does she just not know how to process the fact that a man is truly into her? Does she maybe like him back?
Duh! But not because of Bran. Probably because of a certain horn in the hand of an idiot, but not the hand of a hero.
oh crap, I forgot about all the Frey men at the beginning. Jeez, killing them just seemed so natural, so deserved, I hardly counted it. Sorry for dumb comment. I sometimes wish edit button was effective for an hour.
Agree, although it is possible she didn’t know Edmure is still alive. She never actually entered the Red Wedding, only saw the chaos outside as the Hound scooped her up.
Oh I did like Lord Commander Edd. LOL. Of all the watch who wouldn’t want the job….he’ll always be a favourite of mine. And I’m so glad that Meera and Bran have some actual walls around them! Meera really has been amazing…I hope for good things for her.
I also liked the inside look at the Lannister soldiers…as an audience we of course see the big battles with the armies as nameless thousands, but unless they’re the heroes of the story we rarely see them as individuals.
Ten Bears,
When the episode opened with Arya’s superlative revenge and, later on, Sandor started seeing prophetic visions of the wars to come, I have to admit that I thought of you and the theories that you’ve been offering up. I trust that you enjoyed all that this hour had to offer. I sure as hell did. 🙂
Now that’s how you start the season! Favorite scenes: every one of them.
Good things:
1. Sansa (correctly) dissing Ned and Robb as stupid. Truth hurts.
2. Euron doing a good Captain Jack Sparrow impression in the throne room.
3. Cersei’s walkable map, which no doubt doubles as a Twister board when she wants to get freaky.
Bad things:
1. Way too much time spent on Sam remembering something he already knew from Stannis in S5. The poop-soup montage is perhaps the worst sequence in all of GoT.
2. The sop to the feminists with women being trained to uselessly chuck spears at White Walkers.
3. Pointlessly showing the army of the dead marching to no particular place, and pointlessly showing Bran arriving at the wall on a new sled that they must have just found sitting around somewhere.
4. The knowledge that all the “historically long episodes” are probably just padded with repetitive montages.
5. The entire episode felt largely like an intro for people who haven’t watched the first 6 seasons.
6. OK this is a nitpick, but it’s hard to believe Stannis had a throne next door to his map room and never sat on it.
Yes! Sam and Gilly have so much left to discover, I hope, before leaving The Citadel. AAR (aka Jon) can wake dragons from stone and so probably can wake men from stone (Stone Men, which greyscalers become), as well. And Sam needs to find a mountain of Valyrian steel and how to control the dragons with spells and horns. And where the horns are. And how to defeat the Night’s King, if dragonglass and dragonsteel won’t do it.
She was distracted enough by him for Pod to get a cheap shot in. So I’m guessing the latter…that she just doesn’t have any idea how to handle a man who is physically attracted to her. I don’t know if she likes him back…I don’t think she knows either. I’ve felt that way about a guy before…he comes on strong and I don’t believe it’s genuine because I’ve never considered myself an object of desire. Lost more than one good-but-overly-eager guy because of my lack of self-awareness :).
Anyone else notice that when Sam was reading a book from the Citadel there was a picture of a dagger. The same dagger that was used in the assasination attempt of a sleeping Brandon Stark. Why is this dagger in a book? Is it important?
Just wondering
Do we think the Hound is more than he seems?
Husband and I were discussing his visions in the fire. His life basically began with fire and blood magic-his brother shoving his head into the flames and losing half his face. He walked away from a battle and his life during the wildfire experience at King’s Landing.
But here he is, traveling with a red priest and a resurrected warrior for the lord of light-and he sees a clearer vision in the fire than Melisandre ever did. I mean incredibly specific details and locations.
I always thought he was special because of his relationships with Sansa and Arya. The wolf and hound connection etc.
Now it seems like more.
Husband’s main question is-was he seeing more than Thoros was able to see-and why did Thoros think he could see anything in the fire in the first place? (I know Stannis did, but half of that seemed like Mel’s influence)
RG,
Mmm, totally missed that. Probably coincidence but maybe not…
Honor Targaryen,
Hee, my DH looked right at me when that was spoken….who, moi?…..
One of the things I loved about this episode: the strength of the supporting characters. Edd, Ser Beric, Thoros of Myr etc.
Of course the stars were wonderful, but the depth of this cast never ceases to amaze.
Nathalie had a viewing party! https://www.instagram.com/p/BWokdwzjZh-/
Ginevra,
Thanks for posting the preview, I really appreciate it! Yes, it goes by too fast and there is a lot to see! I sure hope running into Nymeria persuades Arya to head back to Winterfell and they go back together. We shall see…Thanks again!
Jared,
You evidently don’t recognize that that was a joke. Hence the “heh”, among other things.
Solid opening episode. Arya eliminated House Frey, one Westeros house down. 🙂 (Though I was very surprised that changing faces allows one to completely change one’s voice too – from young girl to old man!)
The dead marching on….
Bran passing through the Wall; I believe he’s opening the door for one fraction of NK’s army.
Jon, Sansa, northerners, Vale people, okay.
I liked the scene with Arya and the Lannister soldiers. Some humanity showing through. I also liked the BwB sequences – more Beric, more Thoros, please. And who knew Sandor was such a great fire reader?
Sam and oldtown – too much s**t for me – I really had to look away….
Wow Euron, quite rakish and charming! Bonus point for making Jaime uncomfortable. 😉
Daenerys and Dragonstone, visually the most stunning sequence this episode – Dragonstone was very lovely (and much different from when ole Stannis occupied the place). But I wish they could have ended without that extremely unimportant piece of dialogue – “shall we begin”?
I’m thinking it will close out the season really setting up the final war to come in Season 8.
ACME,
As far back as Season 5. Arya showed interest in face switching, was told it was off limits by Ja’quen, and still used it anyway to kill Meryn Trant. She got punished for it by becoming blind.
She used the face switching again to kill Walter Frey last season.
I really thought they would have replaced the stag sigil with the lion sigil in the KL opening credits.
It was actually Uncle Benjen who said that everything before the word “but” doesn’t matter, the only time we heard this on the show, I think. Just before Benjen left Castle Black.
ETA: I looked it up, and it was in the Lord Snow episode. And Benjen says his brother once told him, so crediting Eddard is correct.
Yeah that’s definitely Tyene. So is the naval battle next episode?
crimethink,
Why does that have to be a feminist thing? Maybe its a human thing because if everyone is able to fight they might all just survive?
thisgirlhasnoname,
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Yeah thats what Ive been thinking as well – yet she didn’t mind Jamie’s attention….
RG,
Yes he does seem more now, maybe with more human emotions than he’s expressed before? He’s showing remorse, maybe some actual grief? (seeing Arya show some empathy and friendliness with the lanister soldiers was encouraging as well) The fact that he sees something in the fire really is surprising but maybe Brother Ray was right – the seven weren’t done with him yet. And he can use that vision to help with the fight to come.
#2: Yawn.
#5: Almost all ep 01s have been largely catch-ups and follow-ups from the finale of the previous season. It’s usually e o2 that breaks new ground. This was an especially good ep. 01.
thisgirlhasnoname,
I’m not a fan for the Brienne-Tormund thing.
Still believe Brienne is in love with Jaime, especially after two backward glances towards him (leaving King;s Landing, Sailing from Riverrun) …But if Tormund can do something that makes her ‘Feel like a Natural Woman’ 😉 …than I might like the idea 🙂
His Leering at her. would give most woman the creeps!
I would think so. At least a naval skirmish, but since we have snippets of a naval battle in the trailers, that would make the most sense. Watch in slow-mo (the settings wheel will let you set to a quarter speed) and pay attention to the light and the windows, which look very ship-like to me.
crimethink,
stannis said that have dragonglass in dragonstone, but not WHERE, and as you can see is not in the castle, its a mine.
You’re so sweet, Ginerva. Happy to see you, Ashara, and so many other people I recognize scrolling through.
I’ve missed this place, but I’ve been avoiding learning anything about this season. I’m coming into it as a blank slate (other than what I know from the books), and while I missed the speculating and the people, it was so much fun watching the episode with no idea what to expect.
Jack Bauer 24,
It looks like it, yeah. They’re wasting no time.
Euron looks like he’s kicking butt, so that can’t be good for team Yara or Jaime. Cersei might marry him for Ellaria Sand alone…or kill him. Tough call.
Also Nymeria (yay!!!)
Littlefinger once again saying things that compel Starks to throw him against a wall-and in THE crypt, no less.
Also… JON SNOW IS IN THE CRYPTS! (sorry, I got excited)
Is it next Sunday yet?
Sean C.,
My apologies. Sarcasm can be a bit hard to recognize in textual form, especially when the one making the comment has spent the past 10 days of Memory Lane posts – and honestly, long before that – relentlessly critiquing the show on similarly minor details, albeit details that have far more narrative value that the density of dirt in winter. I didn’t take you for a jesting soul, because I hadn’t seen any evidence of such a trait. Now, I know better. I’ll apply that knowledge going forward.
Where’s Ghost?
Euron’s Iron Islanders found a lot of trees on the Iron Islands and built the best fleet ever I little faster than I thought he would… I thought maybe the 2nd episode.
Is anybody else having problem trying to access the HBO Game of Thrones Viewer’s Guide?
http://viewers-guide.hbo.com/game-of-thrones/season-7/episode-1
I only see the episode’s name and an image of Daenerys in the Dragonstone throne room. But I can’t enter anywhere, can’t move from there.
And also there’s this message:
“Seven hells! Whispers of Westeros is unavailable to visitors outside the United States. For the latest Game of Thrones updates, please visit MakingGameofThrones.com.”
I don’t know what the hell is “Whispers of Westeros” , but in all these years I never had any problem with the Viewer’s Guide website..
Anyone knows what’s going on?
Nymeria Warrior Queen,
I’m so glad you enjoyed it! I’ve missed much of the off-season, but as my time opened up, I did catch a bunch of the interviews coming into the hype for the season. I have fortunately missed the leaks, though! Whew.
Looks like it’s night time too and the trailers showed it at night.
RG,
So interesting you would say that about the Hound. As he was walking toward the fire in this episode, I started thinking, hmmm…what if he could see visions in the fire, his entire life has been shaped by the fire that burned him as a child…
Then he saw visions.
The episode moved on, so I didn’t think about it any further, and then I saw your post.
I hadn’t thought of it before that moment, and I don’t know what, if anything, to make of it.
Must just be those outside the US. The site is working fine for me. It’s where I got all of the YouTube links for Inside the Episode, Euron’s proposal, and the homecoming videos. You can CTRL-F to search for my name to find these videos, but just skip the many other postings I’ve made.
Not only prophetic, but with far more detail than Mel ever reported seeing. There was a definite location and an absolute sighting of an unmistakable army. Looks like the Red God answered Sandor as clearly as he’s ever answered anyone because, well, there’sonly 12 episodes left, and he can’t dilly dally. Can’t wait to see what is done with this clear prophesy.
Oh, just read upthread and saw RG’s excellent comment that said the same thing first. Like minds? anyway, it is something to watch for.
Kells,
Hound’s line about Thoros being bald and covering it with his manbun! so great!
Jack Bauer 24,
Canada
Best question of the night
ash,
RG,
Thank you and yes! Beric said that the lord of light wasn’t done with him yet the first time they fought. Then Brother Ray said he wasn’t done yet and he could change. He is going through some personal redemption-the way Jaime was (before he went back to KL).
It just makes me so much more curious now that he’s had such clear visions, so quickly.
The lord of light collects the most unlikely prophets. 🙂
Ginevra,
Was the “servant girl” face Arya used to infiltrate the Twins really one she made herself ?
I always assumed she had taken a random mask from the wall in the House of Black and White and replaced it with the Waif’s own bloody remains. If we truly are to believe that she murdered an innocent servant just to steal her features and gain access to the Freys, then I am afraid I have to reconsider whether it is too late for Arya to come back after all.
On a sidenote, during her entire training, I do not think we ever saw her enter the room where the faces were “magicked up”. Did we ? She was in charge of cleaning the bodies and, possibly, cutting up the faces after a while (a knowledge she re-used on the Waif). But that is all I can remember.
Yes ! Sansa warns Jon against a woman she lived with for years, a woman whose opponents have a tendency to die at an alarming rate and who is shown, in the very next scene, calling the Northerners her “enemies”. Since Sansa is inherently evil, it must mean that she is trying to sabotage Jon by giving him correct information in what can only be called a superb, if remarkably counterintuitive, reverse psychology move. The plot thickens ! 😛
Jenny,
Didn’t Jon pretty much dismiss the idea of listening to her wholesale ? When they were arguing, Sansa said he has to be smarter that Ned and Robb to which Jon replied “and how am I supposed to be smarter ? By listening to you ?” (or something in that vein) which I took to be a rhetorical question, implying he has no desire or inclination to do it.
Admittedly, at that moment, Jon was understandably upset : Sansa had openly contradicted him in public and she had just committed the ultimate blasphemy by criticising Ned and Robb (*cough* rightly so *cough*). So he may have been particularly dismissive as a result.
I’ve always seen Arya’s apparent joy at killing as more of a desire for justice or karma. She sees a lot of injustice in the world, and is happy when she can punish those who she thinks deserve it. People like Joffrey or Ramsay like hurting or killing people for its own sake, just because they can, while Arya risked her life to protect Lady Crane, knowing that the best assassins in the world would be hunting her if she did. I don’t think it’s really the killing itself that Arya enjoys, but rather the sense of power of being an instrument of karma in a world full of injustice…of no longer being helpless in the face of that injustice.
Her killing of Walder and his elder sons last year wasn’t sadism, it was acting out the myth of the Rat Cook to punish them for violating guest right. I think Jaqen H’ghar knew this would be her path, and intended all along for her to leave the House of Black and White and return to Westeros as Arya Stark, so that she could act as the avatar of the Many-Faced God, the Stranger, bringing divine retribution to those who have long escaped justice.
The Faceless Men seem like they are more than simple killers for hire, and I think Arya in Westeros is part of their deeper game. I think the “No One” training is actually a test, but not quite the way it appears. Giving up your identity and becoming a mindless killer is not the actual goal, but rather it is the failing outcome. Those who fail are expendable killers like the Waif, used for petty jobs, and discarded/added to the hall when they die. Those who pass, who manage to maintain their identity despite the constant attempts to break it down, are the ones who become the higher ranking agents, like Jaqen and Arya. Arya may be doing what she wants to do, but Jaqen seemed fine with it, and seemed to expect it.
I don’t think we ever explicitly saw her learning to magic up the faces, but we did see a training montage of her learning various alchemy/poison/potion stuff, and there were several previous indications that she had learned to take faces by the time she left (putting the Waif’s face in the hall, and also she must have gotten the serving girl’s face from somewhere), so I think it’s pretty safe to assume that she learned it at some point during that training montage.
HereBeDragons,
Oh I agree, I think Brienne has a mad crush on Jaime. He’s the Golden Warrior, the Knight in Shining Armor. And I think after getting to know her, the feeling is somewhat reciprocated. Jaime just needs to pull his head the rest of the way out of his backside.
I totally hear you on the creeped out part – been there. But I’ve also been on the receiving end of *want* from a guy who maybe I wouldn’t have considered, but the strength of his attraction made me look twice even as I shied away. Boy did it pay off :))). So I guess I have a soft spot for Tormund (in my bed lol).
I think every woman needs a guy at some point in her life who just desires her at first sight and isn’t afraid to say it. I think it’s part of our natural instincts, both to want and be wanted. Brienne was never “wanted”, because of her size and warrior instincts.
Whether she ends up with Jaime or Tormund, I’ll be satisfied. Either way, i think it’s going to be a fun triangle to watch play out.
Ginevra,
I enjoyed it immensely! I had heard there were leaks (no surprise, but arrgh!!!). I’m glad you avoided them.
It may be old news for those who have been around, but I noticed there’s a quarantine area for discussions of leaks. I know that’s been used in the past, but that it’s been formalized is such a fantastic idea! Yay! (I bet it makes life a bit easier for the mods, too).
Thanks for the links!
But I would like to see the Houses and Characters sections.
It’s what I have always done in all these years everytime after seeing a new episode.
I always liked to see what has been updated in the Viewer’s Guide.
I never had any problem with the site. It shouldn’t matter wheter you’re in the US or not.
And the restriction for US outsider is for this “Whispers of Westeros” thing.
The Viewer’s Guide has nothing to do with it as far as I know..
Nymeria Warrior Queen,
It kind of blew my mind.
I think it would be beautiful, bittersweet symmetry if Shireens gift of literacy to Gilly leads to the discovery of the key to defeating the WW.
Perhaps the book was a record of all the known Valyrian steel weapons in Westeros. That seems like the sort of book Sam would be interested in. The dagger was last seen sitting on Ned’s desk when he asked Littlefinger for the support of the Gold Cloaks (not counting its more recent appearance in promotional photos).
WhiteWalker8009,
I did notice that! I wasn’t sure whether I was imagining it.
It would be amazing if this were the weapon used to cut out the heart of – or otherwise destroy – the Night King.
Most likely it’s just there for really attentive fans to notice, though.
Caw, caw – Black Raven reporting in after a double helping!
Great episode. I wondered what the fuck was going on at the start with Walder Frey. She slit his throat back in S6E10! Ok, we all know that Arya can change faces, but to emulate Walder’s voice also? I think a bit of poetic license was used there? That would have be impossible to do even for a FM 😉
Well, she certainly took revenge for the Red Wedding and poisoned ALL the Frays. Just goes to show that Jaqen H’gar certainly trained her well back in S6 😉
Was also amusing when Arya met up with some Lannister men (Ed Sheeran, etal) and them asking her why she was heading for Kings Landing – “To kill the Queen! They all laughed of course taking that to be a joke, but we know better 😉
Euron’s arrival in Kings Land was interesting! He certainly pissed off Jaime with his comments to Cersei about wishing to become the King beside her and also having a poke at him saying at least he’s still got two hands. No idea what this gift will be to her to show he’s trustworthy?
The scenes in the Citadel with Sam were great. I would be retching also doing that job emptying the piss and shit pots! Assisting the Grand Maester in the mortuary couldn’t have been much fun either. I jumped out of my seat when the arm with greyscale shot out of the hatch, but I guessed immediately it was Jorah’s even before he spoke and asked Sam if the Mother of Dragons had arrived on Westeros.
The scenes with The Hound were as good as ever and glad to see he’s still comes out with expletives at every opportunity. Thoros – “Have some rum?” Hound -“I can’t drink that shit – Too sweet for me!”
I thought I recognized that house as the one he and Arya stayed at with a farmer and his daughter back in S4. His prediction to Arya saying they both would be dead by winter was correct after he robbed the man of his silver. However, he must have had respect for them and buried their bodies albeit he forgot the rites said at funerals in the Faith of the Seven. I reckon he will change his faith` to the Lord of Light after seeing the army of the dead, thousands of them marching south towards The Wall in the flames?
Dany’s arrival in Drogon was cleverly done also with no talking from Varys, Missandei and Grey Worm giving her the space to capture the moment of finally arriving home to the ancestral seat of her forefathers and then in Stannis’s old war room – “Shall we begin?”
I have just realized that this is happening in Making Game of Thrones website too!
http://www.makinggameofthrones.com/
It’s the same problem. I can only see the home page, but then I can’t move from there to anywhere.
And there is the same message blocking:
✕
“Seven hells! Whispers of Westeros is unavailable to visitors outside the United States. For the latest Game of Thrones updates, please visit MakingGameofThrones.com.”
Which is weird, because I am already in Making Game of Thrones site…
I hope I can access the Viewer’s Guide at some point.. 🙁
Due to budget constraints because of extensive poop CGI, Ghost is now represented by a cardboard cutout placed 500 feet in the background of any scene.
I think the extra long wait made my expectations unrealistic. I liked the Jon/Sansa scenes and there were a couple of funny parts such as Euron’s crack about having two hands and the hound’s, “you’re not fooling me with that top knot.” Other than that…
Tertiary characters had weirdly long scenes.
Dany’s landing was underwhelming. I didn’t get goosebumps or any kind of feels. :((
The mass murder of the Freys was cheap. It wasn’t cleverly and deliciously set up like the Red Wedding and just didn’t feel hard won at all.
Speaking of the Sam montage haha!
https://twitter.com/b_cogman/status/886817757643329536
lucy,
Spot on.
firstone,
I’m not really so hung up on stuff like this. To me it’s reasonable that he has the ships by now. If he had them by the end of last season it would’ve been a little tougher pill to swallow.
I think I can see your point but there is a difference between justice, revenge and karma.
If I willingly stomp on your foot and you formally accuse me of having done so, manage to prove it to a third party and have me punished in a swift, dispassionate and efficient manner, then it is justice.
If I willingly stomp on your foot and you retaliate by willingly stomping on mine, then it is revenge.
If I willingly stomp on your foot and, while I am walking away, I stub my toe on something, then it is karma.
What Arya does belongs mostly to the second category, I believe.
You are entirely right to say that the Rat Cook is a tale that emphasises the divine nature of guest’s rights. The protagonist is thus punished by the gods themselves for having violated their law.
This is what happened to Tywin and Roose : both broke the gods’ given rule and, even though they were murdered by people who had no intention whatsoever to avenge the Red Wedding, the manners in which they died “coincidentally” echoed the massacre. That can easily be interpreted as poetic justice, as the gods punishing those who committed a crime against them.
Walder and the Freys, on the other hand, were not punished by the gods; they were punished by Arya. The Frey poisoning was somewhat acceptable because the execution was swift, dispassionate and efficient enough to pass as justice. But the Frey pie… Not really.
From a purely symbolic standpoint, Arya usurped the gods’ narrative role and replaced karma with revenge, poetic justice with vigilantism.
And if you are right in your assessment of Arya’s mindset, if indeed she views herself as an instrument of the gods’ justice, then that may be very worrying.
Pigeon,
Hee hee ! 😛
RG,
That’s why I’m so glad you mentioned it! It was a whoa moment when the thought occurred to me, but it was a fleeting thought. It looks like a couple of other folks had the same thought, too. I still can’t begin to guess what it means/where it will lead, though.
Casso,
I loved your thoughts on Arya and the Faceless Men!
crimethink,
Re: women being trained “uselessly,” this has historical precedent, same as much of GoT. Plenty of examples of women taking up arms in war-exhausted societies where large numbers of men have been killed in previous conflicts. Also plenty of examples where women were trained to arms by their own choice, eg Vikings, Mongols, Scythians, etc.
Feminism is a new-fangled thing. Arming women and children out of desperation – or as a matter of course in nomadic/semi-nomadic raiding societies where mobility, fast movement, light armor, and light weaponry wouldn’t have required brute strength – is old school. Look it up.
Not coincidentally, Jon spent a lot of time hanging out among nomadic raiders.
ACME,
In the inside the episode David says he isn’t dismissing Cersei as a threat long term.For once that they semi defend Jon I’m gonna take them at their word haha.I think he was just pissed that she defied him in public.And he is in a new position.Probably feeling insecure.As a bastard he never thought he would be where he is and every time she disagrees he is reminded than she has always seen him as inferior to her.Like when she says you are a good ruler he says no shaking his head.Jon will listen to her if he thinks she has a point.I also understand Sansa and where she is coming from.She is disillusioned with Ned and Robb in a way that Jon isn’t cause he hasn’t suffered for their mistakes in the way that she has.Plus those were his heroes.Otoh Sansa understands the Night King in an abstract way and she knows it could be bad for all of them but Jon understands it in a visceral way.He probably still has nightmares from Hardhome so that’s where all his priorities lie.He is thinking more short term.We need to survive this and we need to be united otherwise we are all fucked whereas she is thinking more long term in terms of ruling and such.All in all typical sibling in the way they phrase stuff.You should see me and my little brother arguing lol.
Did Sam refer to Jim Broadbent by name? I don’t remember him calling him Archmaester Ebrose
Awesome season opener! Everything I could say about it has pretty much been said by everyone else.
Loved Arya killing the remaining Freys, as well as her friendly encounter with those Lannister soldiers – Showing her that there is still humanity in the world, even among her “enemies”.
The Hound scenes were very emotional and interesting. I’m so glad he’s going to be a regular character again.
The North – I’m relieved by how Sansa is portrayed. Yeah, she’s arguing with Jon, but she’s not being totally unreasonable, and she’s still not taking LF’s shit.
King’s Landing – Jaime’s definitely starting to get uncomfortable, lol. Also, Euron… Nice improvement from the Kingsmoot!
OldTown – Awesome seeing Jim Broadbent in this show (frankly, I’m surprised it took them this long to get him). I look forward to seeing where Sam’s storyline takes him… and Jorah! Great way to reintroduce him!
Only two minor criticisms:
1) What about Edmure?? Did Arya just leave him in the dungeon?
2) The montage with Sam went on a TAD too long.
HBO referred to him as Archmaester Ebrose in the official post-episode email full of photos and photo credit/captions. So that’s that.
Sue the Fury,
Aww I thought he was Marwyn…impatient for Sam to be a wizard lol
ACME,
Based on stories such as the Rat Cook, there seems to be a generalized belief in some kind of divine justice, that the gods are supposed to punish people for wrongdoing. Arya has clearly witnessed a lot of injustice during her travels, yet the gods don’t always seem to do their job and punish the wicked, so I think Arya has taken on that role for herself.
I don’t know whether she consciously thinks of herself as a divine agent of the stranger/many-faced-god, or if she just thinks the gods are slacking off, and she’s just picking up the slack, but her actions seem to be rooted in a system of morality based on the tales she was told as a child. The Frey pies were certainly no accident, and she mentioned the violation of guest right while poisoning the Freys. Simply killing them in revenge for killing her family would be one thing, but the pies and the reference to guest right make me think her vengeance is being carried out within a framework of specific moral beliefs, even if it’s not sanctioned by the legal “justice” system (which has consistently perpetuated injustice in her experience).
While fanaticism and belief that your actions are justified by the will of a god can certainly lead people to some very immoral places, it seems to me that Arya has actually remained far more concerned with separating right from wrong before acting than many other characters, even to the extent of questioning and disobeying the apparent will of the many-faced-god in regard to Lady Crane.
She owed Jaqen a face, one way or another, and the Waif was that face. Stealing a face is possible, but I tend to think a Stark always pays her debts.
We don’t know that the serving girl was innocent. Or always a serving girl. Maybe.
If I had to choose between magical abominable snowmen with giants and tens or hundreds of thousands of dead men versus a southern queen with a small but sweet southern army who has no allies and no northern fighting experience and who is fighting a war on four fronts, which is so impossible that I believe it is completely unprecedented, I think I might go with the Whites and wights as the bigger threat. But that’s just me.
Liked 99%, I loved the cold open, Sansa and Jon, yes Sansa should have brought up the loyalty of the houses up in private, but Jon should have also given a heads up to his small council before they began.
What Sansa learned from Cersei, is Sex or sexuality is a woman’s weapon LF is going to be totally screwed if
my only fear is when she tells LF she is safe among friends and family.
A bit much with Sam and latrine duty, Gilley is going to be important, I liked the KL stuff but I don’t like Euron and the actor doing him just doesn’t thrill me at all.
9.5/10.
Jenny,
I agree wholeheartedly with you; emotions ran high and things were said without necessarily being meant. That is usually the way with Jon and Sansa, they truly are great at getting under each other’s skin. And they have very different mindsets…
The problem is that, regardless of intentions, words can create a toxic atmosphere. I do not think Sansa wanted to undermine Jon but the result is the same and he now views her through that prism. Similarly, I doubt Jon really intends never to listen to his sister but he said so and she may keep that in mind.
In moments like those, I am glad I am an only child 😉
Casso,
She may believe all of that and even more, you are right.
However, in a story, it is rarely a good idea for a character to insult the gods by taking over their duties and prerogatives…
Un-named Giant
Enjoyed the episode, particularly the Hound scene
Euron was somewhat entertaining but am hoping to see some scenes with less Clowning and more sinister (aka less smiling eye Eurons “blood” eye) as a reflection of Eurons deep sinisterness
Atm Eurons been half Victarion and half Euron it seems
Euron saying to Cersei “I enjoyed killing my brother… you should try it” and then telling Cersei he is going to bring her the best “gift” ever…. good scene!!!! That’s good writing by D&D!!!!
I think and have felt for a couple of years now that Sansa (if she lives) will be The Queen of Thorns in the North, she picked up things from Cersei,Marg,Olenna, LF, Brienne,Joffery,Ramsey, Ned,Cat and Jon.
Between her and Arya ( if she doesn’t die or go West of Westerns ) no one would cross House Stark again.
Ginevra,
I struggle to imagine what a girl Arya could not possibly have known for any significant amount of time (and whom we, the audience, know literally nothing about) might have done to deserve being murdered and have her face cut off.
It is almost a reversal of logic : instead of someone doing something wrong and then Arya killing them, we end up with Arya killing someone and then us assuming said someone must therefore have done something wrong. I do not have a problem with protagonist-based morality per se but that may be taking it a bit too far… 😉
When the southern queen with limited resources has demonstrated an ability to think outside of the box in order to target her enemies and can therefore be expected to try to have the KitN (seemingly the only person currently capable and willing to lead the humans against the undead) assassinated if he displeases her, she may become a priority…
crimethink,
The show has made it clear for 6 seasons that Arya’s a quick learner, has a good memory and is diligent about practicing all her skills. Moreover, the HoB&W scenes show her carefully observing everything, asking questions, and wanting to learn more and more. We even see Jaqen watching her work with poisons while blind. He later said of Arya, “A Girl has many gifts”, and in the end he did declare her No One. So you shouldn’t be surprised at all–it was well set up.
In a separate post you wrote about a ” The sop to the feminists with women being trained to uselessly chuck spears at White Walkers.
Perhaps you’ve also forgotten that Jon already knows the prowess of several female warriors, and that in the war against the dead willing and capable women should indeed participate. Not only did he see his kid sister’s accuracy in archery, but he gave her a sword so she could become the warrior she aspired to be. Jon knows Brienne, knew Karsi, and most important knew the mettle and capability of Ygritte. Jon even knows the outspoken fierceness of Lyanna Mormont. Game of Thrones is the rare show that understands that women can be warriors and should be allowed to excel and lead. Sansas are needed too, of course. But look around you. If nothing else, modern society has proven that eliminating restrictions has allowed many many women to shine in traditional male occupations.
My logic is this: we don’t know if the girl is innocent or guilty. Tons of things could have happened offscreen. This is Westeros we’re talking about. We just don’t know what happened, and so we shouldn’t assume.
Is Arya innocent? Fuck no! She just slaughtered House Frey. But I don’t think we can assume she has murdered an innocent person. Yet. Maybe she has. We just don’t know.
That is a good point! One I wish Sansa had made, but there is still time.
If I’m Jon, I would say to Sansa: So Cersei is plotting to assassinate me, and to stop my assassination, you’d like for me to take the entire Wildling army and the entire Vale army south, marching for months, where at least half of my army will die before I can reach and kill Cersei, assuming we are that lucky, and all of that is to save my own life? Is that what we should do? Thousands and thousands die so one man lives?
And then while we are spending months if not years in the south, Dolores Edd and his five friends are left alone to defend the Wall against tens of thousands of the dead? And then after Edd and his five friends die and the Others cross the Wall, every single man, woman, and child in Westeros dies? While we are off fighting a war in the south? To save one person? That’s our best option?
If only we had a badass-sister-assassin who could reach King’s Landing before we could and knock off Cersei for us….
She stole and used a face from the Hall in Mother’s Mercy when she killed Meryn Trant. Sorry, it took me a bit to look that up, but I was thinking that was the finale of Season 5, and it was.
And then she did the other half of the task when she took off the Waif’s face and put it in the Hall.
Usually, innocence is the default setting, even in Westeros. Until we know for sure someone is guilty of something, they are normally presumed innocent.
The “servant girl” is entirely unknown to us. Why would we even suggest the possibility that she may have been guilty of a hypothetical crime if not to morally exonerate Arya oh having possibly murdered her ?
That is why I prefer to believe Arya stole the face from the House of Black and White. Otherwise, I am forced to assume she assassinated some poor girl solely so she could get closer to the Freys and that, in my eyes, would make her a sociopath which I do not think Arya is.
Now, of course, that does not help me understand how Arya learnt how to “magic up” faces but I’ll just assume insta-knowledge. ^^
I believe she did not need to for Cersei made that point very clear in her letter when she told Jon to either bend the knee or be considered a traitor. Since the price of treason in Westeros is death, for all intents and purposes Cersei sent Jon a death threat. Sansa merely informed him of the queen’s track record and told him not to underestimate the weight of that threat.
After that, it is up to him, as king, to determine what to do with that knowledge. Especially if he decides to travel south and/or attempt to open negociations with Cersei.
I honestly think I was a bit too exposed to all the spoilers and interviews and all that, I liked the episode, didn’t love it, perhaps because the last episode I saw was winds of winter and expectations were high. but most of the episode was satisfying, especially the cold opening Winter came for house Frey ,Bran and scenes at Winterfell.
what I didn’t like was the the scene with Arya and the soldiers, I mean in a society like that, a group of soldiers come across a girl and offer kindness and she’s safe? it seemed unreal, not because they were Lannister soldiers, just because it seems inconsistent with what we’ve seen in the show so far with similar scenes.
P.S: I miss Essos.
and probably gonna watch first episodes of previous seasons to lower my expectations.
Stoneheart,
I know what you’re saying about the Lannister soldier’s scene feeling out of place. I did enjoy the scene. But in previous seasons travels to and fro were usually met with encountering n’er do wells or at the least, suspicious or cocky men. These young men were downright sweethearts lol.
Grail King,
Same here regarding Euron. Can’t put my finger on why but the actor just isn’t selling it to me.
ygritte,
I’m trying to convince myself why they had to put it there, but can’t . didn’t feel real..
About Edmure Tully’s location…he’s in Casterly Rock with his wife and baby. That was Jaime’s deal in exchange for not killing him and for him to have Riverrun surrender without a fight.
I wish someone in the north would remember that only a small number of men need to be stationed in Moat Cailin and they can repel an army attacking from the south. Seems so simple to do that, and then Cersei will not be an issue. Especially in combination with winter setting in and the north being especially harsh in winter.
Vincent Stark,
This show thing where Cersei is some evil genius makes my inner book purist rage lol. Cersei is supposed to be a case study in what not to do!!!
ygritte,
He’s just so underwhelming….which is strange. Balon, Yara, Theon have all crushed it.
thisgirlhasnoname,
I absolutely love this comment and fully fully agree. Arya’s scene with the Lannister soldiers was sooo sweet.
crimethink,
impossible
the freys are a horrible army, they couldn’t even keep riverrun
Ginevra,
Have slowed that preview rite down and it’s Ellaria that’s getting agitated.
She’s in the Painted Table room with Dany’s other advisor’s (no Olenna though) and it’s her kissing Yara in another clip.
But what clicked for me is Ellaria poisoned Myycella and she would be another excellent ‘gift’ for Euron to present to Cersei.?
Takes the heat of Tyrion 🙂
Amazingly said
Thank you
weirwoodtreehugger,
hahahahahahaha
WhiteWalker8009,
I SAW THAT!
We know its Valyrian steel though.. maybe that’s why?!
WallyFrench,
But did you like the show? Maybe you posted your thoughts somewhere else, but this is the only place where I found a comment from you and there are ever so many posts to go through. I can tell you have good taste and are ever so good at communication. So, if you would be so kind, as you love me, tell me your thoughts.
RG,
What I would love to see:
The Hound wielding the sword Lightbringer.
– Of course you named your sword
– Lots of people name their swords
– Lots of cunts…
WallyFrench,
Well Done. I didn’t remember that about Edmure. I was just thinking Arya would have freed him without revealing herself as she didn’t want another adult protecting and controlling her.
And that’s what I was thinking about Cersei’s supposed threat from the South! 🙂
I’m a book purist too but to enjoy and love this show, I’ve had to let Alot of things go.
Brilliant cold open, but too talky and expository overall to be a great episode. That’s often how it goes with premieres though, which are more about setting up than paying off, so still optimistic about the rest of the season.
Dee Stark,
Lovely of you to say ! Cheers 😉
crimethink,
“, why didn’t she order the Frey army to march on King’s Landing or at least Casterly Rock to take out two enemies at once?”
Because the Frey army is a disorderly rabble at best and even more so now without the two incompetent Frey brothers ?
Jack Bauer 24,
If you recall, Dany commanded Jorah to find the cure and return to her. What better place than the Citadel – a temple of knowledge? Also, Stannis told his daughter that he had all the best maesters come to cure her, so she survived. Somewhere that knowledge exists; logical to believe it is at least recorded at the Citadel.
ACME,
Not following your assessment of Karstarck girl and Sansa. I saw a mousy girl with dishwater colored hair. And body type? Well, anything under 130 pounds could be included in that description. I thought the entire scene was to illustrate some Starck sibling rivalry and show Jon and strategic but also compassionate. After all, the last of those houses were just kids.
Can someone remind me what the upcoming episode runtime is?
And how long was the premiere? 59 minutes?
Just done rewatch. This is a strong episode, and sets up the rest of the season well, in my view. Maybe a little less of Sam with the shit-pans though! However it does make the point that he has to start as the lowest level to become a maester, and of course enables the encounter with Jorah’s arm.
(I did however think it unlikely that the same person would be given shit-duty and book re-shelving.)
The north scenes were very well done, likewise Arya with the ‘boys’. I did wonder why they’d sing a song about (book spoiler)
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Having trouble posting – it’s very slow!
Baron,
Absolutely.
Alys Karstark was definitely supposed to resemble Sansa in order to illustrate the compassion of Jon’s decision.
Sansa suffered through ignominy and contempt during her time in King’s Landing because she was considered the daughter of a traitor. She was punished for the “crimes” of her father.
And Ned Umber resembled Bran and Rickon as young Lords, who were driven from their family home.
Im curious, How much of the episode did people know in advance?!??!
Remember the black guy who opens the door to the HOBW, and later comes to get Arya when she’s walking down the road? Turns out that Jacquen; plus Waif is able to turn into a much older lady with a different voice. So somehow the simple placement of the face changes everything about the person. Thats my theory any way.
When the Giant White Walkers came I couldn’t help thinking of Saltheart Foamfollower and the triplet of giants taken over in the time of Hile Troy
Dee Stark,
Everything.
Gonna need a barrel of Lysol for that table
Flayed Potatoes,
wow. The same for every coming epi essentially?
I loved this episode, probably the long wait amplified my love for it, but first off my favorite conversation, Euron (Pilou) stole that scene; the actor chewed up the Lannister twins, especially poor Jamie. Can’t wait to see more of him. One of the most touching scenes of the series, the gravedigger. The wtf moment, Ed Sheeran, and the big ?, will he survive Arya. The funniest, Sam’s montage; and the wildest, fist pump reverse Red Wedding cold open.
Dee Stark,
Dee?
Please don’t ask these type of questions?
You’re almost ‘encouraging’ those who know, to let spoilers slip in!
I already sadden to know that ‘everything’ was leaked in Episode 1 🙁
I’m already picking up that a certain someone has to kill someone to redeem their betrayal of someone else. 🙁
HereBeDragons,
hiii
hahaha no im not asking people to discuss the spoilers, lol come on
im curious how much is known per episode.
have you read the leaks?! IF NOT, what do you mean by:
I’m already picking up that a certain someone has to kill someone to redeem their betrayal of someone else.
HereBeDragons,
Dee is the most anti spoiler person I know on here!
Chuck,
hahaha exactly!!!!!!!!!!!
Dee Stark,
I really don’t want to go there, Dee, incase I get slapped for been a whistle-blower myself.
I had heard the the whole Season 7 storyline had been leaked but it wasn’t confirmed, Now Flayed Potatoes is saying he knew ‘everything’ in episode one, then it’s a good bet that it’s true with the rest of the episodes.
Before …I was just thinking that’s some interesting speculation, but now I’m thinking this character will die. …and it’s kinda depressing when I’ve been so good at keeping away from leaks.
HereBeDragons,
Oh!
Okay! say no more then hahaha! 🙂
I got that too ☹️
Dee, he’s saying there are already spoilers in this comment section. Some pretty specific. I try to skim and not internalize, put them all in the bucket of people’s speculation and/or wish lists, but all it takes is a hint, and it’s planted in my mind!
But your question made me curious also.
I wouldn’t have enjoyed the episode half as much if I knew what they knew. I was a little underwhelmed by Dany’s arrival and I think it’s because all of that was already in the promos, and it followed a feast of new and interesting scenes!
Also before Arya went blind, the Waif turned into Jaqen after Arya thought that Jaqen had poisoned himself.
nvm
Firannion,
Yes. I paused just to check.
Young Sansa would have but not Sansei.
Of the old gods,
OHHH
I didn’t even notice the comments and thank God
thanks for explaining!
Ser Not Appearing in this Series,
Oh love that!
I definitely feel like more possibilities are opening up for him.
All in all solid epp
Enjoyed the start, liked sandors scenes and the silent finish!!!!
Broadbent was strong and got a nice surprise seeing Thomas Turgoose ( Sean from this is England) in the Arya and Ed scene
Can’t remember seeing any casting posts for him so I enjoyed that
Molestown bastard,
O Christ!
I was looking at him in the scene and thinking ‘He looks familiar” but wasn’t remembering him as a 10yr old kid 🙂 lol
I did see Ellaria in the map room when I slowed it down! I didn’t realize she was agitated, but perhaps. The kiss could be poison, but I wouldn’t think Cersei would consider Yara a gift worthy of marriage since Yara’s part of the iron fleet would likely remain with Dany even so. Yara would be a great gift for Euron personally, though.
Can someone please explain what is holding banners up in Game of Thrones? They look like big, heavy fabrics but they can be pulled down very easily by someone as small as Dany (and also when Bolton banners were pulled down after BotB?). Whoever is affixing banners to buildings obviously doesn’t rate the chances of a dynasty lasting very long if they can be so easily replaced…
If that came from me, I’ve not read the leaks! I do tons of speculation. Sometimes I’m right. Sometimes I’m wrong. I am basing my theories off of an analysis of the show dialogue last season, primarily, and this one and off of the commentary videos.
Dee Stark,
Yes for 2. We know almost everything for the rest, but we’ll probably get the scoop on the smaller scenes soon.
A good answer – I never considered that. If so, its a pity that aspect of becoming a FM was never mentioned during the time Arya spent in the HoB&W during her training? ie. That one ‘becomes’ the person in all respects when putting on their face mask.
Mr. Penn,
No No lol
Ellaria (The mother of the Sand Snakes) poisoned Myrcella (Cercei’s Daughter) last season. Euron could capture Ellaria and present her as ‘the gift’
And considering what she did to Septa Unella, what the hideous revenge would she take out on the woman who murdered her daughter.
( ..another wildfire burning in the throne room?? ) 😀
Ginevra,
No No lol
Ellaria (The mother of the Sand Snakes) poisoned Myrcella (Cercei’s Daughter) last season. Euron could capture Ellaria and present her as ‘the gift’
And considering what she did to Septa Unella, what hideous revenge would she take out on the woman who murdered her daughter.
( ..another wildfire burning in the throne room?? ) 😀
It ain’t. Not even close.
HereBeDragons,
If you have only watched the film and not the 3 tv series you need to catch up gripping funny tragic stufff
That was the most distracting shit in the 7 kingdoms. People on Twitter were wondering why Euron was recast as Bam Margera 😅
Lol
Flayed Potatoes,
insane!!
Hi Dee, just out of interest how did you find the episode as a total unsullied was it full of surprises or a mix?
As you know I read the outline last year but was excited by Euron/Cersei interaction ( I knew they would propose an alliance), the Brotherhood+Hound scenes were totally new to me but I knew from this site they were filming a scene riding past a farm without knowing any details. Also the Bran passing through the wall was slightly different to what I read (I won’t mention that just in case it happens in a latter episode). I read on twitter from someone who watched the premiere that it would be a cold open of Arya killing Freys I still really enjoyed that part.
So overall even though I knew there were a few plot points which would appear I was still surprised enough. Clearly I know where the season is going but my intention is to remain as unsullied as possible from here on in.
Oooooh! Yes, Ellaria would be almost as awesome a gift as Tyrion in Cersei’s eyes.
Jon Snowed,
It was fantastic, and I was definitely surprised by Arya’s scenes, the WW, the Hound and BWB, and Bran crossing the wall!!!!!
I was expecting Sansa/Jon/LF, Sams life scenes, and Cersei Jamie Euron, Dany arrival (which was stunning)… but I was PLEASANTLY surprised at how much I enjoyed Sansa and Jon’s bickering. For now 😉 haha I like the conflict, I just hope it doesn’t put Sansa in my bad books at the end of this all, because I really want her to stay on my good side.
HereBeDragons,
I’m speculating that the ‘gift’ is indeed a person, but don’t know who it would be. Ellaria is a possibility but there are others.
I haven’t read ‘leaks’ or seen the preview (hasn’t been aired here yet). But certainly Euron is off to do some bad business… He may not know whom he’s after, but is going on spec to cause havoc.
spaewife,
It was watching next week’s preview that made me look elsewhere as to ‘the gift’ 😉
Might be a stupid Horn though? (book-readers will hate me for that) lol
Sadly it seems someone got their hands on episode scripts as I’ve seen pictures on twitter from episode 1 and I understand there are more. I just don’t want that level of detail to be spoiled so like you and Dee I am trying to avoid spoilers from here on in.
Ryan,
Two things stuck out this episode that didn’t belong, the Bono Euron wardrobe was definitely one of them.
Cumsprite,
Of course I like the show, otherwise I wouldn’t be here. 🙂
Can you please tell me how I showed that I loved you lmao?!?! Perhaps you replied to wrong person?
HereBeDragons,
I wish someone would even just mention Moat Cailin! 🙂 But I think having Cersei being checkmated that easily by Jon wouldn’t make for good television.
I’ve let a lot go too. I just take it as something separate from my beloved books. I prefer to focus on what the show has done very well (no Penny the pig, no LSH, more Bronn, etc.) If I focus on stuff like tv Dorne too much, I nerd rage around the house and my wife gives me “the look”.
Just about to see the preview… but as to the Horn, there’s been no ‘hanging’ of it in the show. So I think not. (I’m a book reader btw.)
spaewife,
What’s dumb about the horn? Not to pick nits, but I could say it’s just as dumb for a colossal intelligent magical beast to bend its will to a puny human entirely.
Also, no way it’s a horn as the purpose of said horn is over. He’s going to go after one of Dany’s top lieutenants. God I hope he brings Cersei the SS!
I think we can assume that he’s been freed, either by Arya (if she even knew he was there) or by Roslin. It’s possible that Tobias Menzies wasn’t available.
He can’t be. Walder Frey said that he was “back in his cell”, presumably at the Twins.
Edmure refused Jaime’s first offer, and only responded to the follow-up threat of his baby being catapulted into Riverrun.
Dee Stark,
I gotta admit, I really liked Sansa/Sophie this episode. She made a strong case for her contrarian views. I really liked Jon though with his “I’ve made my decision” firmness.
However… After the first 5 minutes of the episode, part of me said “I’m content for the entire season.” God I love when the show pulls surprises like that.
My biggest surprise? The time spent with Sandor. Maybe he will be the prophecied Warrior of Light after all.
You may want to correct your screen resolution.
Grandmaester Flash,
I believe he said that before Jaime freed him. Can’t remember every line of dialogue thou. In the books that’s where he’s heading, and the last I can remember that was the deal Jaime made with him in the tent on the show that led to the Blackfish’s death.
To have Jaime go back on his word, would be a huge black mark on his whole redemption arc.
ChristosG4,
That’s my hope! Please let D&D be smart enough to take out those terrible characters quickly to leave more screen time for the better characters that abound.
WallyFrench,
Agreed. Where they’ve fucked up in the show, (that Arya shit, happily wandering around Bravos to be stabbed) ..they’ve made up in many Astounding and beautiful ways.
I thought it brillant they placed Arya as Tywin’s servant girl and will always love that interaction with Cersei and Robert discussing their marriage.
I do miss the prophecies though, I think they were what gave GRRM a devoted fan base, and on a personal level (dog-lover here)… The bloody absence of the Direwolves,
(I just can’t get over the reasoning that they’re too expensive to bring to the screen when they’ve made the bloody dragons looks so lifelike) Honestly, just go to that woman in Canada who breeds them, stick them in a ‘greenroom’ with a few toys and I’m sure they’d capture some lovely images to superimpose onto recorded footage..?? 🙂
But if they give me Arya refinding Nymeria, or Meera’s story of the Knight of the Laughing tree, (preferrably in an extended flashback scene) I’d forgive the bloody Sand Snakes debacle!! lol
I have to stay commenting on this thread cos I’ve gone to some of the more current ones, but because I’m ‘paranoid’ about seeing leaks, I’m starting to see them Everywhere!! lol
I think I’ll just stick with Open Chat on up-coming episodes 🙁 😀
HereBeDragons,
Great points all around! I forgot about the Tywin/Arya pairing, that was pure genius. I agree with the direwolves, I wish there could have been more of them. I’m especially bummed that they keep getting bumped off. I’m with you, no way they’re too expensive. When Summer got killed last season my wife’s reaction was worse than seeing the Red Wedding (she’s a crazy dog person lol).
WallyFrench,
You don’t want to even Glimpse how I reacted when Summer died. I was screaming and stumping around the room, that my partner finally said “O grow up, it’s just a TV show” and my only pathetic reply was “but they’ve Killed Summer” lol
I think I even missed the impact of Hodor’s death cos I was still grieving and angry! lol
HereBeDragons
Lmao 🙂