“And now it begins.”
“Now it ends.”
The official synopsis:
Daenerys meets her future. Bran meets the past. Tommen confronts the High Sparrow. Arya trains to be No One. Varys finds an answer. Ramsay gets a gift.
Have a look at the official episode photos here.
“Oathbreaker” is the first Game of Thrones episode directed by Daniel Sackheim, and it is written by David Benioff and Dan Weiss.
Cian: The aftermath of various developments from last week’s “Home” will be intriguing to watch unfold and develop. Just like Sebastian Croft did as a young Ned, it looks as though Robert Aramayo nails Sean Bean’s Yorkshire accent as an older Ned in the preview. He looks like a great fit. All signs point to this being another revelatory episode for book readers. We can’t wait for it!
Willas!
Hodor/Wylis
Shoot just missed it.
I’m excited for the episode I’m really worried about Ramsey’s gift I am hoping they just caught Theon riding back to the Iron Islands instead of it being the Umbers giving him Rikon.
That would be because Robert Aramayo is from Yorkshire! (OK Hull not Sheffield, but hey…)
Dw3sty,
That would stinks if Theon goes back to Winterfell. This is not compelling TV.
Huge anti-climax. The man has spent 3 seasons with Ramsay, lol. The character needs something new.
TOWER OF JOY!!!!!!
Reactions to jon snow coming back!!!
And the umbers…
Bloody can’t wait for Sunday, love the previews
Pounce,
not if he stabs him in the neck, but I don’t think its Theon though.
I had imagined Ned being more somber when he said, “Now it ends.”
Seeing the younger Ned(s) makes me miss the older one.
Getting Hyped for TOJ!!!!!!
And getting ready for Dawn outrage…. Such is the GOT fandom..
For a moment I thoughttp that was Thoros.
Mihnea,
should be fun XD
Am I the only one who sees Arthur Dayne’s eyes as having a purplish blue shade?
Mihnea,
Yeah, there will be nerdrage. We’re getting used to it anyway.
Varys was trying to locate the leader of the Sons of the Harpy in previous episodes, which would be the most obvious interpretation of “Varys finds an answer”. But barring Hizdahir somehow still being alive, there aren’t any Meereenese characters who could serve as a meaningful reveal, unless you buy into the preposterous theories that it’s somebody in Dany’s pre-Meereen entourage.
We’ve speculated a lot about the meaning of the title. At this point I think it must refer to Jon dealing with the mutineers, not Jon leaving the Watch or whatever else, just because I don’t think that’s likely to happen this week.
Sword of the Morning,
Me too. When I read that scene, it felt like he was very sad that it had come to this and he said it out of sadness.
Dw3sty,
You would wish this on Theon? Having to go back after his atonement?? At least
.
Sword of the Morning,
I thought that too. But…
I think it was the dream that made it sadder. I think he was sad in the books, because it was a dream and he knew well what will follow after this.
In the dream he knew Dayne was right, that ”now it begins”
I think we truly have to separate the 2. One is a fever dream, where we have Neds thoughts on the events, old Ned, who know how this entire thing ends and what follows.
While here Bran sees this just as it happened, no dream, no Ned insight, no one knows what will follow, not even young Ned!
So I find it quite right/true..? that he is more determined here, that after all this war, all the things he went trough this is where ”it ends”.
EDIT: Not to contradict you or to say you are wrong! Just bringing a different perspective.
Tommen meeting the HS should be fun to watch since he seems to want to put his big boy pants on. Tower of Joy will be great and I hope the scene is shown in it’s entirety not broken into segments to be drawn out through the rest of the season. All I will be thinking of during the scene is
Ramsay’s gift? I would rather not speculate because well, it wont be good
When I read the books, it never occurred to me to give a crap even for a minute about what color Dawn was. I was intrigued by the legend of Dayne and how Jaime and Barristan and everyone looked up to him as this ideal knight. I was interested in the person, not the object. So I’ll pass on raging out over swords.
Is the Sheffield accent the same as Hull? I dunno. England has so many accents in such a small place.
I think the leader behind the Sons of the Harpy is just going to be Yunkai, represented in the show by Razdal, who we know is going to appear in episode 3 or 4, and again in the finale.
Sword of the Morning,
He is sad in a fever dream, because he knows what is coming, but in reality he wasn’t somber saying “now it ends”.
Agreed.
The gift will be Rickon. Maisie confirmed yesterday that he’s returning.
RIP Rickon, Osha, Shaggydog (in my opinion)
I am cautiously excited for the Tower of Joy scene. I don’t really care about the fight itself (and how close it is)…. I care about the twist inside the tower and I hope they nail that!! The important ingredients for the exterior scene are imo: Ned and some companions fight Targaryen Kingsguards, Ned and Howland Reed survive. I don’t care about the mechanics of the fight (if that makes sense).
You’d be surprised. Look up the size of the Basque Country, where I live in Spain. It’s such a small place, yet some dialects of Basque are pretty much mutually inintelligible!
Sword of the Morning,
And now it begins.
Jack Bauer 24,
Would you mind spoiler tagging the
type parts in the future? You speculating on
is one thing but some of us try to avoid the actors’ comments/official spoilers. Not trying to be a jerk or anything.
EDIT: Thanks
Sean C.,
My guess is that the Head Harpy is the slaver from Yunkai who gave Dany that chest of money so she would leave (season 3 I think it was).
Sue the Fury,
Agreed. Dayne’s legend is what I liked. How good he was and how much Jaime admired him.
He can easly be all those things without Dawn.
What I would really like to see, is Jaime talking about him a bit.
Agreed.
Let it be known before the Old Gods and the New …. “There were 3 on 7…..”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nqv-UtJQk5Q
3 on 7 not 2 on 6 with Dayne using two forks instead of a legendary sword!
I’d thought about that. It may be a good way to introduce Dayne before we see him in the flashback, right? Jaime, disgusted at having Gregor in the Kinsguard, musing on how great the order once was, with people such as Arthur Dayne.
So what about that scene of maybe Jaime killing the Mad King? Would be very fitting to see it in the next episode.
No it’s not quite the same although the two cities aren’t that distant – so we can give the young actor some credit! Yorkshire has many different accents.
Possible speculative spoiler:
Arya must kill Juhn Snuh. The Many Faced God is owed a life. If she is truly No-One, she must kill Snow to prove it.
Umbers bring Rickon to Ramsay.
Theon won’t show up in Pyke till E6/7/8?
Sansa misses Snow, by “that much”.
I think the show has 3 KG?
Hoyti Von Totiy,
Yes. That is the point of this story, surely.
I learned from Ser Arthur Dayne, the Sword of the Morning, who could have slain all five of you with his left hand while he was taking a piss with the right
Jaime Lannister
Can’t bloody wait ^^
Luka Nieto,
Good Idea!
I always imagine him telling Bronn this and Bronn making fun of him afterwards.
Matthew The Dragon knight,
That is what I loved about Dayne.
He could very well be all that with 2 swords.
Jack Bauer 24,
In fact by episode 8 I would expect him to be veeeeery far away 😛
Did we ever get more info on
Luka Nieto,
Good call, Luka. I think you’re on to something here…
Sean C.,
Regarding Varys finding an answer, could it refer to
Fanmade Tower of Joy scene:
Che,
Remember, in the books it was a fever dream, semi-narrated by older Ned. He was remembering the whole memory, through a “sad memory” lens, the grown-up Ned painted his own emotions onto the memory. This Ned seems a little more cocksure and wanting to get into that tower, no matter what. I’m completely on board with that.
ghost of winterfell,
Varys would want none of it. He doesn’t, if the casting script for Kinvara is to be believed.
Flayed Potatoes,
Dont get your hopes up, we might not see the reveal during this episode.
Jack Bauer 24,
He is the gift, indeed.
Jack Bauer 24,
I would hate the idea of
In the trailer,
JonFookinSnow,
God do those lines sound bad when you actually hear them.
Mihnea,
Arthur Dayne always interested me, can’t wait any longer for Sunday.
JonFookinSnow,
Nice cinematography, the rest is…well…fanmade.
cat lady,
Oh yeah he stabs him in the neck,even though we know from the trailers that Ramsay is leading a battle and is not going to die any earlier than episode 9,i’m not even going to mention the set reports .
Meanwhile the run time for episode 10 is 69 MINUTES
HYPEEEE
Pounce,
Lyanna Stark rockin that blue hair 😀
Tycho Nestoris,
Targaryan KG armor.
Don’t think to much into it. They most likely just wanted to give them a unique look.
neymarjr123,
Holy crap!!!!!!
Mihnea,
liked the way they said it in the preview, can’t wait to see what the conversation will be like in the episode.
Hoyti Von Totiy,
Nobody….with a brain….fucking……cares .
Direwolf Lvr,
Luka Nieto,
I do not remember exactly what was leaked. I know Varys hates magic, but he and Tyrion saw the red priest in Ep 1 preaching for Dany, the one in Volantis last season was doing the same. That may give them the idea to use red priests for their own advantage?
JonFookinSnow,
I just noticed that the guy behind the actor who plays Eddard looks like Sean Bean 😮
Sword of the Morning,
I thought the same. But then, the book quote goes like “Now it ends, thought Ned, sadly.” He is sad about the whole thing only after it has happened. But when he was at ToJ, he could not have known that Rhaegar loved Lyanna or that the KG was protecting her. Although Ned tried to be respectful with Arthur Dayne in the book ToJ scene (indirectly suggesting the KG to run away or bend the knee), it is possible that he was aggressive towards the men who held his sister captive.
Sue the Fury,
I don’t mind either way, but I can clearly see a pale white sword being twirled at 0:23. It’s not some large greatsword like people seem to be expecting but looks like how I pictured Dawn.
JonFookinSnow,
Nice effort, but I sure hope the fight choreography is less laughable during Sunday’s episode. And it seems like it will be 6 on 2 in the show
As I said elsewhere, I hope we’ll see more ‘spring cleaning’ type deaths (ie of people no longer needed in the narrative) in this one.
come to mind.
I’m hoping for Ramsay to finish of Littlefinger >:) . I don’t care how inconsistent it would be.
??????? really?????
Yaga,
Well it’s grim oop north…
I think the description of Dawn is one of those bits of poetry that make good reading as words on a page. “pale as milkglass, alive with light”. Trying to portray it visually they would not only lose the lyrical power of the words, they would run the risk of it coming off as some type of lightsaber knockoff. (Heck, they’ve already got those GoT/Star Wars t-shirts out there).
Kind of the same with Ned not saying “now it ends” sadly. It worked in the book but when you’re seeing it play out, you would think someone about to fight for his life and perhaps, as far as he knew the life and freedom of his sister, would have a bit more determination than melancholy. I can see whey they’d go with that choice.
If I’m not mistaken in the books Ned’s guys were mounted when the fight began. If so, that’s another change I’d be ok with.
So sure, I’d love to see Dawn but if the creative people decided it couldn’t be done in a solid, believable way without being distracting, I’m ok with that.
Direwolf Lvr,
I won’t be affected if they decided to do away with Rickon, but please let nobody hurt Shaggy! 🙁
Hoyti Von Totiy,
Stop whining please. All that matters is how good the fight is and what happens inside the tower. Book purists should understand that not everything is or can be translated to the screen and deal with it. Please. It will definitely be an epic scene, let yourself and everyone enjoy it. Peace.
Sou,
I’m equally hyped for the finale and Episode 9.
Episode 4 and 8 should be pretty neat too. I don’t know about the rest.
Sou,
Really 😀 http://www.hbo.com/search?type=schedule&seriesIds=PMRS1663&q=Game%20of%20Thrones
What??!! Holy crap!!
careful….
JonFookinSnow,
kudos to them; it is borderline ridiculous, but an excellent fan effort
neymarjr123,
They have to deal with the aftermath of BB and whatever happens in Kings Landing and Meereen. And we might get the big White Walker scene in the finale.
Jack Bauer 24,
Maybe Theon arrives at Pyke after the Kingsmoot? I don’t see Euron leaving Theon alive before the Kingsmoot. Not that any Ironborn is going to choose Theon to rule them. The actors playing Roose, Theon and Ramsay were on an unusual number of promo events this year – probably because all three of them will die this season?
PS: Not adding spoiler tag because this is speculation, not spoiler
neymarjr123,
Hype.
Not that it matters but judging by this picture: http://puu.sh/oIvcP/d91f114737.jpg Dayne has 2 swords and only one of them is in his sword sheath, and the one that isn’t looks a lot like Ice which immediately tells show only people that it’s a special sword.
And you can see him swinging it around in the preview too..
Pounce,
Well, that already makes half the episodes there are left to watch!
Rhaenys Stark,
hurray!
alrite last week I got nothing right …maybe i did I don’t know but let me try again…
starting with first scene
1) open with Jon ….He is up ..everyone is back to their places ..He walks right to Davos first I guess he is surprised …then he walks out everyone sees him …commotion in the wall ….Mel tries to know what it was like when he was dead ,,what he saw and all….
it ends with Jon having to decide what to do with throne and Co. He probably forgives most of them except the ones who stabbed him..probably let’s olly go …( Imagine the rage )
2) kingslanding next …tommen and high sparrow talk …High sparrow threatens tommen. ..cersei wants to eliminate all the faith militant but they would need help ..Jamie suggests Tyrells but cersei doesn’t trust them so ….We see qyburn and his little birds….and he reveals something big …
3) we see dany walk part 1 ….and they reach their destination. …
4) tyrion Is deep in his thoughts ….They seem to have no idea what to do …till varys walks in after finding the answer …tyrion plots his next move
5) back to wall Jon is also planning ahead …He knows of the threat that’s coming ….We may see sansa reach the wall and meet Jon but I’m not so sure this will happen this episode
6) then we see arya training this time jaqen teaches a girl more skills by the end …A girl is more trained and ready for the next step
7) dany part 2 this time we will see her settling to her new lifestyle
8) probably to iron islands where we will see euron again
9)kings landing again this time in the small council ….where we just see Kevan and pycelle ….short conversation ….cut to .next scene where it might end with another’s death not sure if it will happen but uncle Kevans appearance in the photos isn’t very good for his health ,,much like balon and doran etc
10) Ramsey is planning to attack castle black till umbers show up with the GIFT … and Ramsey gets new bright idea
11) last scene one of the most awaited scene in tv history ..
bran and blood raven talk and blood raven promises to show bran something awesome ….We go to toj ….I loves little ned ,,,specially the way that kid smiled like Sean bean …This one looks good too,…epic fight ….best sword fight in got ….and it will end before ned opens the door …..ah I know most of what I say will not happen the way I have said it or in the same sequence ,,,,,so what the hell….. it will probably end with promise me ned …….
HYPU HYPU HYPU!!!!
And 5×04, 5×05, 5×08 and 5×09 are (more or less) 59 !
Wow !
I think it’s safe to say that after Ramsay gets Rickon he’ll call off the attack on Castle Black and send Jon Snow the “Pink Letter”, which should be this episode. Then next episode will be the big Sansa-Jon reunion… and the Letter arrives, with Sansa confirming Rickon’s alive and them having a renewed purpose for the rest of the season.
‘Now it ends’. Aaaaaah! Squealed in delight when I saw that one. I’m soooo stoked to see Ned!
Sue the Fury,
Slightly different. We (from Hull) flatten our vowels more.
Pounce,
Um, I’m pretty sure Ramsay would flay the shit out of him and that is climactic. But I think it’s Rickon too. Which kind of makes me sick. If they recast Rickon they will need to establish in some way that it is him.
jentario,
This makes perfect sense. Jon may not believe its Rickon if he thinks he is dead. But Sansa can clear that up.
Dw3sty,
Doubt it. I bet it’s Rickon 🙁
The Harpy is probably a warlock still peeved at the events at the house of the undying.
Hoyti Von Totiy,
Book purists tears … yummy!
Pounce,
You don’t know about the rest?
Why?
So Aramayo is Ned? I remember when that casting broke thinking he favored Bean. But everyone was saying it was going to be
Can’t wait to see the full scene.
And hearing Cersei’s line again convinces me that the pic of Qybern and the kiddos will be him acquiring his own “little birds”.
I really hope Ramsey’s gift isn’t Rickon but it doesn’t look good.
And I really can’t wait to see the wildlings and NW reactions to Jon walking out of that room.
Josh L.,
Ugh
I came on here after episode 1 aired and it was complaint central
Will probably avoid after episode 3 hahaha
Though I have to say most book readers on here are more open.
____
I am so excited for this episode, duhhhhhhhhhh.
I CANT CONTAIN MY HYPE
aabe,
Only in the world of westeros does one say, kill the child and keep the direwolf. LOL
Very excited to see that all seems to be setting up for Jon to get a letter from Ramsay telling him that he crushed Stannis and has Rickon captive and demanding back his wife and his Reek. The Pink Letter lives!
Major point here! Sean Bean does not have Yorkshire accent. Yorkshire is not a singular accented county.
Sean is from Sheffield. Same city as Def Leppard’s Joe Elliott & Rick Savage. As was Joe Cocker. Plus that “Is this the way to hammer brillo” guy, Tony Christie. (AND from where I originate.)
Listen to Mark Addy. He’s from York (City), to north’n Sheffuld (how Sheffield is pronounced locally). (About 55 miles, by road – 60 minutes steady drive.) They don’t sound alike, even though Mark was in ‘The Full Monty”, shot in Sheffield.
John Bradley is Manchester-born. Lancastrian, in other words. Manchester is, approximately, 40 miles West of Sheffield. Theirs is way different accent too.
Does anyone know for certain if the ToJ scene is split across multiple episodes ? Is there any chance we get the whole thing on Sunday ? Aside from the fact that it seems a little early in the season for such a reveal, it could mesh very well with the aftermath of Jon’s resurrection.
Oh, man. That was such a cringe fest, from beginning to end.
Markus Stark,
They filmed exterior scene in Spain and interior scenes in NI.
I myself don’t think this means the vision will be split but wouldn’t be suprised if they did.
But, as far as I know, nothing is truly confirmed.
Agreed, and not just in retrospect. At that point Dayne would’ve been bored with standing guard in front of a tower in the middle of nowhere for months, and spoiling for a fight just for some exercise. By contrast, Ned by that point would’ve been war-weary, and also very reluctant to kill a legendary warrior whom he greatly respected and admired. Knowing that there was no other way to ‘save’ his sister would’ve made him sad. He was never one to relish killing.
But I think that among directors, there is a default way of thinking that having a hero character sound ‘badass’ is the only way to begin a fight scene onscreen. Ned is a more complex character than that, and those who know him best frequently comment on his somber and solemn mien.
Pounce,
Ooh, nice! And so true.
“One does not simply walk into the Tower of Joy. Its doors are guarded by more than just ordinary Kings Guard. There are Knights there that fear no man and bend no knee; the Sword of the Morning is ever watchful. Not with seven men could you do this. It is folly!”
No one knows for certain.
Bran’s visions cant be very long, remember what BR said.
Filming spoiler
Are the inside scenes with Lyanna done in Ireland? We did not see who filmed those, did we? So they could be in any episode.
I do hope we will also see that next sunday, so we can see in the next episodes what it means for Bran and how Jon will learn the truth.
Luka Nieto,
Hull and Sheffield are very different. Young neds grandad is from San Sebastián
West of moon,
Aramayo is Ned. Eddie Eyre is ‘Ser Alfred Hunrith’, apparently. Probably who show’s going with as Ser Arthur Dayne? Looks like the guy who says, ‘And now it ends’. to which Ned says, ‘Now it ends’.
Chilli,
Sunday is Mother’s Day, people.
Recall that “The Children” aired on Father’s Day and “Home” aired on Orthodox Easter, and what were the big events of those episodes?
Pounce,
Juilliard graduate ROBERT ARAMAYO.
Er, yeah what I said 😉
Leeds and Bradford are different from Halifax and Huddersfield and the Middlesbrough accent is very different often being confused with Mackem (Sunderland) or Geordie (Newcastle).
Funnily enough I don’t think I have ever heard Faye Marsay in a role where she speaks with her native Loftus ( Cleveland/N Yorks coast) accent – it certainly doesn’t come out as The Waif.
Sorry for the OT!
Direwolf Lvr,
YOU. ARE. AWESOME.
If Rickon is the “Gift” you bet there will be a lot of motivation from Sansa and Jon Snow to get him back. If what was discussed on Reddit is true, man the build up to the bastard bowl is going to be intense. This in itself will cause the Northern war to escalate.
Prediction:
Rickon = Gift. Ramsey finds a way not to storm Castle Black.
Cersei and Jaime have a argument about bringing in the Tyrell’s to finish off High Sparrow/Faith Militant. It’s the beginning of the end of their relationship.
QB on Cersei’s orders, commands his little birds to do off Kevan/Pycelle
Tyrion/Varys figure out their threats but don’t have an answer on how to defeat them.
Sansa not getting to the wall just yet.
Dany? She’s entering Vaes Dothrak
I find the nerds predicting nerd rage to be easily more annoying than the nerds who post their nitpicky grievances. STFU for everybody how ’bout?
Moving on, I wasn’t sure how they top the resurrection of Jon Snow. Oh wait, here’s some tower of Joy! The scene I have been waiting five years to see. By the old gods I may leak some pee (spoiler alert). Easily my favorite passage in all the books. I don’t care if it’s 6 on 2 or if “Dawn” will be used. I’m hyped for what this all means. Also, I am naming Dayne’s second sword “Dusk” if he’s dual wielding. From “Dawn” to “Dusk” Arthur Dayne is a badass. *mic drop*
This episode is going to feature every living Stark, plus some dead ones as well!
Josh L.,
hahahahhahhahaha
Tatters,
Firannion,
In the brief clip we’ve seen, I would categorize Ned as sounding more matter of fact, as opposed to “bad ass.” Moreover, I think the fact what we read is Ned reflecting back does make a huge difference.
Just my take.
The preview shows the Wildling’s and the what’s left of the Night’s Watch looking at someone as they walk through the crowd. I’m wondering if it’s Sansa, Pod and Brienne that they’re looking at. Not Snow. I don’t doubt that will happen as well, but I am hoping they finally get to Castle Black this week and don’t continue to drag it out.
And I have no doubt of a Stark reunion this week. We need more hope!
Dee,
Because I have no idea what these episodes will contain.
Lyanna_Targaryen,
Nah, I disagree. Ned has always been melancholic, he is the quiet wolf after all, so how its described in the books when he says, “and now it ends” is exactly how I think it was. He was sad, because he had to fight Ser Arthur Dayne, and I think he was sad because he expected to lose. He would have lost too, if it wasn’t for Howland Reed. Who probably poisoned Dayne in the books, but in the show will probably just pretend to be dead and then get up and stab Dayne when he’s not looking.
As far as Dawn goes, of course people are going to be upset over the prop dept. not using the greatest sword in the 7 kingdoms in the fight scene. The sword is thousands of years old and likely has an important role to play in the War of the Winter, the Second Long Night. People have spent 20 years reading a series that still has two more books to go, so they have a lot of built up expectations going into this, and a lot different elements they’d like to see incorporated into a TV show about their favorite book series. I’m not going to rage, but I’m not going to pretend to be ok with it either. I’m disappointed, but I’m disappointed with a lot of the things the show has chosen to leave out, and happy with others. However, most book readers are smart enough to realize that any book to film adaptation is going to have a lot of compromise for the sake of run time, expense, etc. But if you’re going around saying you didn’t give a crap about Dawn in the books, lol, what kind of fantasy fan are you? That’s like saying you didn’t care about Narsil/Anduril in the Lord of the Rings. Magic swords, magic armor, and other magical items are almost like characters themselves and add a lot of depth and history to a story, especially an epic fantasy story. So while I won’t rage, I’ll forgive those who do.
Wil Stompa,
Per IMDB, Luke Roberts is Ser Arthur Dayne and Leo Woodruff is Howland Reed.
I HEART DEAD LANNISTERS (EVEN TYRION),
Not going to enter the entire Ned debate. I think it makes perfect sense for the man to be determined and resolute, when he wants to save his sister, who he thinks was kidnaped and raped.
Yeah. I’m betting 10 bucks we never see Dawn ever in the books.
It’s a fan ”theory” that again the fandom elevated to truth. In the end it, like all others it will be proven to be fake.
And I’m confident no poison was used by Reed. He was fighting 7 guys, of course he would turn his back to someone eventually, it just happened to be Reed.
Also thank you for posting everything I dislike about the ASOIAF fandom in 1 post, it’s truly a achievement.
Demon Monkey,
Yeah that’s what I was thinking. Rickon is essentially a plot device to get Jon to leave the Night’s Watch.
Pounce,
ahh okay
I HEART DEAD LANNISTERS (EVEN TYRION),
And what if it looked bad on-screen?
So many questions for this episode! I feel like I have far less of a handle on Oathbreaker than I did on Home.
1.) What will the “new” Jon be like? How will death and betrayal have changed him? What is he going to do with the Night’s Watch mutineers? I’m so excited to see all the reactions at Castle Black!
2.) We have no confirmation that Sansa and Brienne are in this episode. Do they reach Castle Black this episode or are they indeed taking the week off? If Brienne isn’t in this episode, that’s more evidence that the titular Oathbreaker is or has something to do with Jon.
3.) Is the Tower of Joy going to be shown in full, or broken up into multiple episodes? I very much am hoping for the former, and that we get the coveted R+L=J this weekend.
4.) Varys’ answer must be who the Harpy is, and I’m thinking it will be Razdal of Yunkai. Not a huge revelation for the audience, but is a character most will recognize, and sets up a conflict inside Meereen and between city states.
5.) Ramsay will get Rickon as a gift from the Umbers. I’m about as sure of that as I can be without actual confirmation. I don’t think this means he will kill Rickon immediately, but I’m thinking, if it is Rickon, there’s no way we don’t get roasted Rickon for Bastardbowl…
I say now that the NERDRAGE over ToJ details will entertain me, but I’m pretty sure before all is said and done, it will end up pissing me off.
serum,
In addition, both of them are only credited/listed as being in one episode so we may very well get the entire ToJ scene including interior with Lyanna. Now I know IMDB is not always 100% accurate and they may just not have info on other episodes that Howland Reed (if they split the scene) will show up in but at the very least its something we can speculate about!
HousePotterz,
TOJ scene will show who the crazy purists are. Just laugh my friend and know what sad little people they are.
2 quick questions,how ned found out lyanna is in the tower of joy, and why kG wanted to protect her from his brother!(even if they were there for their newborn prince again jon was his nephew and he wouldnt harm his sisters son)
Luke Roberts is Dayne.
Danial,
Ned went to the tower with several companions, so even if Ned could be trusted to keep the secret and take care of the kid, there was no telling if his companions were just as trustworthy.
I’m just as curious as you are to find out how he knew where they were.
They established Bran can’t be in a vision for too long in “The Red Woman” for a reason. The pic of Bloodraven with his hand on Bran’s shoulder with Bran looking up is most definitely BR taking him out of the ToJ vision after the fight portion.
Mihnea,
blame the show for not getting it right, and call the writers hacks.
like usual XD
All they have to do is have Smalljon Umber say “I have a gift for you. Rickon Stark.” All he has to do is say his name to reestablish him.
Matthew The Dragon knight,
True.
Euron doesn’t know Theon is alive, so why/how would he have him killed before he gets back to Pyle for the KM?
Jack Bauer 24,
Luke Roberts is delicious!
Talentless hacks…you can’t forget the “talentless” part. 😉
New beautiful death poster
http://beautifuldeath.com/
Robert Aramayo looks like Neil Patrick Harris’ cousin, and I hope the line is delivered after more of a pause than in the trailer. I expect he’ll end up impressing me nonetheless.
Nymeria Warrior Queen,
how could I ever forget
thanks for the reminder 😀
Anyone thinks that those two known characters on the crosses will be
i just freaking love this site. i love me some GOT nerds.
Flayed Potatoes,
Are there honorable mentions? I’d love to see if there’s a Balon/Euron poster.
Flayed Potatoes,
should have known it was ramsay killing Roose
No.
Yup, that’s pretty much how I see things going down too. While I can’t wait to see Jon & Sansa together and kicking ass, it pains me to think what awaits Rickon while he’s in Ramsay’s “care”.
Direwolf Lvr,
LOL, love it!!
Wow, I hadn’t thought of that. This is going to be amazing! *hugs all my Starks*
Sadly no.
Yes. I would have preferred a poster with Balon “Default Winner of the War of Five Kings” Greyjoy.
Agreed.
Nymeria Warrior Queen,
You took the words right out of my mouth. The “talentless” part is spot on, I laughed…I’m pretty sure it’s a tumblr/4chan thing.
Flayed Potatoes,
Awesome, as always!
I’m very happy that Roose Bolton got the Beautiful Death poster. I wouldn’t have necessarily objected to Balon being featured, because I’m sure that Robert Ball could have crafted something amazing based on his fall from the bridge during the storm. But Roose was a far more important character, and Michael McElhatton was a series regular. I’m glad he got the honors.
I love the way that the strands of blood falling from his hands look like the strings of a violin. It’s very reminiscent of the Beautiful Death poster for “The Rains of Castamere” in that way, which is fitting considering that Robb’s death and Roose’s death proved to be eerily similar.
Nymeria Warrior Queen,
Makes me sick
Jared,
I would have preferred Balon, the accidental winner of The War of Five Kings. With that quote he said about the 4 other kings being dead right under lol. 😛
Nymeria Warrior Queen,
He’s hot as hell. I really appreciate the show stacking the cast with a lot of new hotness this year.
No. The Kindly Man explains to Arya in the novels that the missions the Faceless Men give never relate to those a Faceless Man might have known in life. She will never be tasked with the death of John or Sansa. NEVER. Won’t happen.
But she certainly might be tasked with killing Dany. And that mission would bring a whole boatload of tension with it. We know she wouldn’t kill John or Sansa. But Dany? >>YIKES<<
Matthew The Dragon knight,
I think of this picture everytime I see purists tears
http://winteriscoming.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/weiss-benioff.jpg
Jack Bauer 24,
They just have to show Rickon in “previously on” and people will know…they do that a lot.
Flayed Potatoes,
I think if Balon had gotten the poster, the quote probably would have been “I am the storm”. But I agree it would have been fun to see. The cinematic nature of his death would have provided a lot of creative possibilities for the art to explore.
Honestly, I wish that Robert Ball could make several Beautiful Death posters for the episodes that feature more than one significant death. But at the rate that we’re burning through characters in Season 6, that extra workload would probably kill him, and he’d need a poster of his own. 😉 But if we’re only going to get one tribute per episode, then I’m glad that Roose got this one.
We don’t get a “previously on” here on Sky.
Flayed Potatoes,
Any thoughts on the possibility Balon died before Stannis in the show’s timeline?
Good grief, people. Whether you have read the books or not, you’ll love, hate, or be indifferent to some scenes, complain or not complain, etc. The people who consistently talk about “Hee hee, can’t wait to see how the purists react, snicker snicker!” are equally if not more annoying than the aforementioned book sticklers. Grow up.
Ser Not Appearing in this Series,
Right…I subscribe to and pay for regular old HBO. If anyone deserves my money it’s HBO.
Ya you are right I sort of like Theon again I wouldn’t want him back in WF. I hope the Umbers are playing Ramsey and it ends up only being the bastard Karstarks on his side and the Unbers/Mormont/Manderlys and Wildlings on Jon’s side in the battke
Beware of leaked spoilers tonight, Frikidoctor is back…
Pounce,
Thank you for the reminder 🙂
That Ned, he was a killer from the start.
Tycho Nestoris,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCMM0ir8-EA
“The War of the Five Kings they call it. Well, the other 4 are dead.”
Clearly, Balon died after Stannis on the show.
Pigeon,
If you think people will grow up, you haven’t been paying attention.
Pigeon,
And so it Begins…
Pigeon,
Growing up is overrated
DW3sty,
I really think Ramsay is being too flippant and not heeding Roose’s last bit of advice.
Wil Stompa,
Yeah, Luke Roberts is Dayne. He confirmed that on twitter.
serum,
Leo Woodruff? Don’t know him…. *Off to google*
Hmm, kinda looks like him standing in the middle in that shot of Ned’s group from the side.
Episode 4 and 5 synopsis revealed :
Edit : nevermind 🙂
Flayed Potatoes,
Whoops, I missed that. I just assumed Balon was too far to know if Stannis was alive/dead.
I’d prefer that but Sky have exclusive rights here so I have to pay Evil Corp or go “less than strictly legal”.
The year the great war came upon us all…?
Tycho Nestoris,
I find it weird as well. Maybe the Ironborn who were still holding Deepwood Motte at the time told him. Or whoever sent the message Yara was reading at the beginning of the scene.
Haha! Paying too much attention, more like. 😉 Sometimes being neutral is an aggravating place. 😛
The week just flew by. It’s hard to believe it’s almost time for another episode!
Flayed Potatoes,
Good thought on the letter, it makes more sense now.
Ser Not Appearing in this Series,
many will fall.
Tycho Nestoris,
I’m sure Balon had his informers, especially since he was thinking of attacking the North again. He was probably keeping tabs on everyone.
Sue the Fury,
Being from Sheffield, the Hull accent is quite different. However someone from London may not be able to tell the difference. It wouldn’t take much to learn to shift between the two. It is still a Yorkshire accent.
Mihnea,
lol, you say:
And then you say:
Well that’s great, good for you. I personally like it better the way it was written by the author, but like I said, I don’t rage. I express disappointment where an element of the show disappoints, and I’ll express appreciation for elements of the show that work well.
You said:
Like R+L=J or Gravedigger? Yea, you’re probably right….
You said:
Except in the books Howland is a little crannogman, who are notorious for coating their weapons with poison, but it’s not a big deal to me either way. The way Howland interferes on the show doesn’t matter as much to me as the fact that they actually show him saving Ned’s life. It will probably work better for the show honestly. But I think you’re looking for ways to be offended by “purists” so when someone offers a comparison between book and show, show fanboys are the one’s who actually default into rage mode at any possible criticism and project your own emotion onto someone else’s benign comment, which my comment was, since I neither expressed satisfaction nor dissatisfaction with the potential difference. I was just suggesting what difference might exist.
You said (referring to Dawn):
Maybe it would, but what if it looked epic?
You said:
Well I’ve never been known as an underachiever, so you’re welcome. 😀
It seems unlikely that they will reveal R+L=J in Episode 3, unfortunately, so that hype train will have to pull into the station for at least a month. That might even be Episode 10 stuff, to be honest.
I’m looking forward to some interesting character meetings in the near future. Jon and Brienne. Brienne and Tormund. Tormund and Podrick. Podrick and Wun Wun. Wun Wun and Sansa. Sansa and Ghost.
Also, we’re long overdue some news of Fat Sam and Littlefinger.
MVC,
My thoughts exactly!
It would be so awesome if
on Mother’s Day !!
When, if the Starks get Winterfell, I like to see a small scene of Sansa at the Winterfell cemetery remembering Lady.
Sword of the Morning,
Yeah same here, I always thought he said it with sadness and resignation. Since he admired the Kingsguard a great deal
Mihnea,
That’s some really good insight. Well thought out. Did not think of that at first
Really looking forward to Daniel Sackheim’s helming (as director) of the next two GoT episodes. Love his work on the The Americans. In fact, his GoT episodes for the next two Sundays will sandwich his Americans S4 episode on Wednesday. Good week for him!
Mihnea,
I also think I read somewhere that they might have tried the White armor but that it did not work out or something similar. Maybe too bright to be on screen?
I like to point out that Episode 3 preview video has 5.5 million views so far. In contrast, the Episode 2 preview is just under 3.4 million views in 1.5 weeks. People are quite hyped I guess 😀
The only thing that they need to reestablish Rickon is to mention his name and to show Shaggydog.
They have a little bit, when Joffrey was going through the Kingsguard book before the Purple wedding
Might put that on the “Previously” section
Leo Woodruff is a stuntman. I don’t remember him being mentioned. Is he playing Howland Reed?
Does anyone know who Eddie Eyre’s playing? Is he a stuntman too?
It’s all soooooo exciting!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I HEART DEAD LANNISTERS (EVEN TYRION),
It does matter; I’m not saying it doesn’t matter within the story. I’m just saying, TV wise, casual viewers, who make up a large majority of eyeballs on the show, aren’t going to be as interested in what Dawn looks like than in Arthur Dayne himself.
Pounce,
That’s what I’m worried about! It just can’t be RICKON!! So, it would have to be Theon….
Meant to put this in here, not the post about eps 4 & 5….
Actor Eddie Eyre liked one of my tweets from my GoT fan acct about next week’s episode, then unliked it, but I got a screen grab for proof ;P
http://imgur.com/cKFvEGH
Why did he unlike it? I don’t do twitter so don’t understand it’s ways 🙂
THE SWORD OF THE MORNING DOESN’T DUAL WIELD!!!! #NOONEUNDERSTAAAANDS (I miss AngryGoTFan. My poor homage is done.)
I doubt very much that Theon is the gift. We had
.
LOL, you must be one of the few.
Well, whatever happens, I just hope the Three-Eyed Raven won’t stop Bran’s vision again, ’cause we all want to see what the hell happened at the Tower of Joy!!! Don’t do it, Raven! Just… Don’t!! >:(
Amen, sister! The hostility is such a buzzkill.
There are definitely optics issues with video cameras being pointed at large fields of white. You can get squirrelly patterns happening. I used to be married to a videographer, and when he was scheduling interviews he would tell people not to wear white shirts.
Lyanna_Targaryen,
I can agree with that, but a great deal of the legend of who Arthur Dayne was is wrapped up in the fact that he was the Sword of the Morning and the wielder of Dawn.
I doubt that people would connect the name to the briefly shown character. For most people, an unknown name slides right through their mind.
For myself, I am only interested in seeing R+L=J finally confirmed. I never have seen the Tower of Joy as somehow “epic.” Dayne almost certainly was nothing more than another very skilled warrior: but like the “great athletes of yesteryear,” he has been mythologized as something from “good old days” that (like our “good old days”) probably never existed.
I don’t recall ever paying his sword any thought: although I do dimly remember people years and years ago positing that this was actually Azor Ahai’s sword. I am not sure why people thought that: I seem to recall others debunking most of the “evidence” as imagined by fans. But I never really got involved in those discussions.
At any rate, an attempt to make this fight somehow “epic” (whatever that even means) probably would be disastrous. What they need to do is show skilled fighters going at it hard, and two of them surviving. It should not be overlong: for example, it should not be as long as Oberyn vs. the Mountain. Remember, this is all set up for what we need to see: Ned learning some shattering truth that is going to haunt him for the rest of his life. Unless this is a total cockup by GRRM, Bran is going to learn something that is going to hugely affect how one of the main characters perceives him/herself, and that is going to have big ramifications down the road. If that somehow gets drowned out in “epicness,” then the whole thing will be a waste of time.
I like to think those who miss him really only thought of him as a parody of “everything from the books should be included, and nothing should even be slightly changed” folks.
What happened to him?
I predict something involving the Umber’s gift is going to end the episode and will be more horrible than you care to imagine.
I haven’t seen much discussion of Leaf’s statement to Meera of “He won’t be in that cave forever”
Knows it’s been speculated there could be a retreat from the weir wood but that almost confirms it
Pigeon,
I agree. Some of the comments regarding that damned sword suggest that the commentor just wants to stir the pot. But after this episode and the sword it’s just be something else
All I care about is seeing a good fight and what is going inside of the Tower. I don’t care about the sword at all.
Sean C.,
This is just a WAG, but a scene from one of the first trailers came to mind after Tyrion freed the dragons. The trailer scene being the Harpies going all stabby on a few folks and suddenly looking to the sky. Again, pure WAG; could the Spider use the dragons as “Harpy Detectors”? They figured out pretty quick that Tyrion wasn’t a threat.
I HEART DEAD LANNISTERS (EVEN TYRION),
I’m a fantasy fan and a book reader and I don’t give a crap what Dawn looks like on the show. If it is important to the overall story as told by the SHOW, then they will distinguish it in some way (just like Oathkeeper); if it isn’t important to the story as told on the SHOW, then it won’t matter. It doesn’t have to look like a rainbow colored unicorn horn to convey that it is “special.” I won’t use the term “magic” since there isn’t really magic in this world–there is only power.
Looking forward to the episode and the ToJ reveal after all this time, but most of all, I am psyched to see A DAYNE!! Would it be too much to ask to see the Dayne sigil?
What is the Dayne sigil?
Jack Bauer 24,
Apparently, he quit.
Yay!
Mihnea,
It looks like he’s wielding two swords instead of one. It also appears to be 5 against 2 instead of 7 against 3.
There should be no leaked episode spoilers posted in comments here. Those posts will be deleted, and doing so repeatedly will lead to banning.
Wimsey,
A white sword and star on purple I think. But how would we see it anyway? Arthur would be the first physical Dayne that we see. His brother, sisters, and nephew haven’t been seen or mentioned. His father was written down in the White Book but that’s about it.
Come to think of it, the sigil might have been in that book as well.
I’ve wondered what would be a good future for Brienne. Mayhaps Brienne and Tormund at Tarth.
Snowbelle,
Dunno? Maybe the HBO snipers, or maybe he didn’t mean to (we’ve all hit a wrong button before). No worries either way.
I’m new to being active on Twitter and not just lurking. I’m still learning!
Sue the Fury,
And now it begins…
A white sword and falling star on a lavender/ lilac purple background
or if you prefer
“Purpure, a blazing star bendways surmounted by a sword bendways sinister argent”
This doesn’t come as a surprise to me. I’m from the Netherlands. Within an hour, you can go from Rotterdam, pass the Hague (and Leiden for that matter) and reach Amsterdam. Four very, very distinct accents. And that’s not even taking into account several of the accent that hail from the southern and eastern provinces and the different language up in Friesland. All in a country that’s just a bit more then twice the size of greater Yorkshire.
Again?!
https://youtu.be/snYE3_GGVcU
Just watching this episode again, interesting use of the word Oathbreaker!!
Sue the Fury,
Being from Yorkshire I can confirm that the Hull and Sheffield accents are different, but not so dissimilar to prevent you from adopting the other accent, especially for an actor. In addition if you’re not from Yorkshire they may sound alike. To give you an idea “The Ridings” of Yorkshire is the largest county in England, covering approximately 5th – 6th of England.
Dw3sty,
It’s gonna be Rickard Osha That’s sucks I read it last year that Ramsey was gonna burn 2 people we haven’t seen in awhile that we all liked That’s what’s gonna make John Snow go crazy it’s ON.
Thanks Sue, I have no problem following filming news and discussing what is posted here. I do want to have some suspense when I watch the episode. Knowing what is going to happen takes the enjoyment out of watching the show, IMHO.
Sword of the Morning,
ME too. I always thought if it more like in a disappointed and sad kind of tone. Like I respect and even fear the great knight you are, but my sister is in there and I’m coming through
Darjan,
As long as it is not as crap as the Dorne fighting sequences. Gawds, that did damage to my trust in the shows ability to deliver the battle scenes.
Kit Hairyton,
It makes us Scots the Wildlings. It’s definitely cold enough. And we have giants…..
mcmance rayder,
And a lot of wee bairns kissed by fire….
He was in his dream. Dreams are only poorly connected to actual memories, and even in literature, they are heavily tainted by how people feel about things subsequently. However, we also know that Ned as a man who is very conflicted about compromises that he made. What he did with surety and perhaps even gusto in his youth is now (or was then) something upon which he looked back with reluctance and sadness. And if Ned learned what many of us suspect that he learned, well, that would make sense.
Mihnea,
Maybe he does have Dawn, because the guy with two swords seems likely to be Gerald Hightower to me
I just noticed something, the Kingsguard who is not dual wielding
Luka Nieto,
Not in Yorkshire, lad. Hull and Sheffield aren’t too disimilar, not exactly the same, but close enough.
Winter is coming.
It is ser Arthur who says that line in the books. And I think ser Gerold was older than the other two, probably in his 40s.
Well, just as long as they make it clear which one of them is Prince Imrahil this time, then I am sure that the fans will be happy.