New Game of Thrones clip debuts on Conan with John Bradley

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It was John Bradley’s turn on Conan last night, with the actor appearing on the TBS talk show to discuss the perks of fame, avoiding spoilers, Jon Snow as a dog, and most importantly, to share a new clip from Game of Thrones season 6!

Check it out:


It’s nice to see Gilly continuing to develop her personality! Poor Sam doesn’t seem to be having a good trip at all.

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Susan Miller, Editor in Chief of WatchersOnTheWall.com

131 Comments

  1. Damn, I need to start recording Conan whenever he’s having a GoT actor on leading up to the premiere. He’s getting all the sneak previews love!

  2. Hmm. He’s pretty non-chalantly making fun of the theory that Jon wargs into Ghost. I really don’t think he’d be joking about it, or bringing it up himself, if Jon actually wargs into Ghost. I think they’ll keep the warging out of Jon’s resurrection.

  3. Someone at HBO must like Coco- he’s getting all the good stuff. Tho he may be susceptible to a certain conspiracy involving redheads…

  4. Conan is definitely getting all the good stuff. Wonder why…I enjoyed this clip, but must say I loved the interview with Liam Cunningham the best so far of all the interviews. It was just too good.
    11 days and 12 hours, but who’s counting…..CANNOT WAIT!!

  5. Not related, just a thought:
    Melisandre could show Davos in episode 1 what s glamour is. By episode 2 or 3 Sansa arrives at the wall looking for help. Since Jon is really dead Melisandre glamours Davos as Jon to raise the Northern lords?

  6. El-Bobbie,

    Or it’s very likely that he doesn’t know how Jon is resurrected because they no longer work together and the actors have said many times that if they aren’t in the scene, they don’t know what happens.

  7. sj4iy,

    Not all the actors abstain from reading the full scripts. There’s plenty of them who read all the scripts.

    And John Bradley has already said in a previous interview that he knows what happens to Jon. I believe it was an interview with EXTRA. So he read all the scripts.

  8. sj4iy,

    If the resurrected corpse of the Lord Commander of the Nights Watch leads northern houses and Wildlings in pitched battle against the Warden of the North, I think the Citadel is going to get a raven.

  9. John is just hilarious. I’d love to see him in more comedic roles – he seems to be naturally funny.

  10. Is any1 else getting tired of Gilly … The actress is adorable but her lines are usually the same sort of hey look at me I don’t really know things but I’m still gonna say stuff that 10 year olds will find funny cuz it was like that for people who never learnt how to read and write in the dark ages ehehehehehehehehe lets giggle together cuz I’m Gilly see I’m giggly Gilly the giggly girl ehehehehehehehe

  11. I get it that they won´t show action packed spoilery clips but sometimes it´s better to show noting than show an uneventfull / boring clip of a sick Tarly.

    What the should have shown is the first encounter betwwen Sam and his old man…. now thats the stuff worthy of a clip.

  12. Hoyti Von Totiy: What the should have shown is the first encounter betwwen Sam and his old man…. now thats the stuff worthy of a clip.

    Or the arrival in Oldtown, which probably includes impressive CGI.

  13. El-Bobbie:
    Hmm. He’s pretty non-chalantly making fun of the theory that Jon wargs into Ghost. I really don’t think he’d be joking about it, or bringing it up himself, if Jon actually wargs into Ghost. I think they’ll keep the warging out of Jon’s resurrection.

    He seems to be making fun of the idea that Jon will be a talking dog forever, not the idea of temporarily warging.

  14. sj4iy,

    But John and Kit are friends irl. So it’s hard to believe the subject wouldn’t have come up in conversation at some point.

  15. Johan Sporre:
    John is just hilarious. I’d love to see him in more comedic roles – he seems to be naturally funny.

    Maybe they will come in time. I agree he is a witty man.

  16. \

    Ygritte:
    sj4iy,

    But John and Kit are real life friends. So it’s hard to believe the subject wouldn’t have come up in conversation at some point.

    Not that hard. Some people don’t talk about work. Others do. Someone else said that Bradley said he did know, but my point still stands in that many of the actors on the show have repeatedly said that if they aren’t in a scene, they don’t know what happens.

  17. he is right about spoilers you know….but i cant help myself……i am always looking for it and always wanting to know……i cant resist the temptation…..

  18. Flayed Potatoes,

    He effectively said that Jon warging into Ghost is a bizarre theory, and he brought it up himself. I don’t think he will warging into Ghost on the show, mainly because there has been no set up at all that Jon has that ability.

    John Bradley is the funniest actor on this show. He is hilarious!

  19. I enjoyed the clip. I love that Gilly is becoming more talkative and showing more of her personality. I’m looking forward to seeing how the relationship between her and Sam develops this season.

  20. John’s personal brand of self deprecating humor is my favorite. Love this guy!
    And I suppose he was sea sick in the promotional pictures(just noticed the pail) & in the second trailer,I thought he was upset over Jon & Gilly was comforting him. But I guess ravens wouldn’t be able deliver a message to a ship that’s already set sail. I wonder how he finds out.
    & Wonder who Conan bribed/killed to get all these exclusives,not complaining though. Keep em comin people, coz this stuff is great.

  21. Sansa’s Knight,

    Yes, oh my, yes. “I thought it’s called the sea because it goes as far as you can see. See sea see sea see sea” Bloody hell it’s like nails on a chalkboard. Hell even Sam in the scene looks annoyed. Who the hell wrote that? It was probably the same bloke who penned “You want a good girl, but you need a bad pussy”.

  22. Hoyti Von Totiy,

    Most of these are probably from the first episode. Sam probably won’t arrive in oldtown until episode 3 or even 4. You know no one forces you to watch the clips right?

  23. I don’t get the hate about Gilly’s lines here. If I was stuck in a ship for such a boring journey I’d be talking about sillier stuff just to pass time. (It is what people used to do before they had an iphone to play with)

    I actually liked that there is a hint of change in Gilly. She’s not there yet, but she won’t stay the farm girls who knows nothing.

  24. I like Gilly as a person, but as a character, eh. She slows down the action. I mean, this season’s plot for Sam is basically ‘meet the parents’.

    Turns out Dickon, despite his wonderful name and predilection for hunting and killing, is actually impotent! And/or gay! And here comes Sam, now a man after the Watch made it out of him, a girlfriend and a (falsified) proof of his virility! Randyll makes him an offer to be his heir again – WILL HE ACCEPT?

  25. I also vote for John is a really nice and funny guy IRL. I rather was a bit annoyed with the Gilly part too, but that said? I would rather that than a :

    constantly crying, inconsolable Gilly for the whole trip to Old Town. That got on my last nerve when reading the books

    And I also agree that John threw out that JS theory that he has heard, Conan didn’t prompt him to choose that as far as we know. And he is right. Making JS a wolf who thinks in Jon’s voice would be rather goofy. I have been one of the one’s who doesn’t think the warging into Ghost is going to happen, still don’t.

    That leaves ….. what is the big thing that happens with Mel in episode 1 a mystery and I sort of like that, I love spoilers but I don’t always need to know it all. I enjoy watching the show and letting it unfold. Trailers are great, the “making of” pictures we have received throughout the off time have been wonderful to give us an idea of what is to come. That is enough for this old lady.

    Getting a bit closer every day now…I can smell it. 🙂

  26. House Applebee,

    Both characters are just cringey together. Sam is so much better with Jon, Edd, or grenn. This relationship is worse than Missandei and Greyworm, at least Missandei is fit.

  27. Is anyone else having trouble watching those vids? They either are cut in half or completely blank, or two are going at once. Any fixes?

  28. John is from Manchester so he will most probably get a gig on coronation street ( iconic British soap opera ) when GOT finishes. Unless Hollywood comes calling!!

  29. alienarea: Since Jon is really dead Melisandre glamours Davos as Jon to raise the Northern lords?

    Hey, that was my theory I wrote about a few days ago… at least quote me 😉 !!

    But I’m glad someone else seems to find it plausible too…

  30. sj4iy,

    But all the actors and HBO have already spoiled us. They told us Jon is dead and isn’t coming back. They ruined their own show.

  31. JCDavis,

    I have to agree with you. I want to know some things, but not everything…so undecided, aren’t I? I just know that it’s going to be a great season. So much to look forward to…bring it on HBO!

  32. LadyCones,

    I agree! Her storyline doesn’t seem exciting but it is if you really think about it. All she knew was Crasters Keep, then she saw the White Walkers/Wall/Castle Black, now she’s on her way to OldTown etc…..from one end of Westeros to the other 🙂

  33. Selina: With the exception of Jon and Ygritte, Ned and Cat, Dany and Drogo and maybe Robb and Talisa, all relationships on the show are cringe.

    I can’t really find anything wrong with any of the ‘relationships’.
    Care to explain?

  34. Okay so, D&D decided to share with the viewer Gilly has become smart and Sam taught her to read.

    This has to be for a reason.

    I think Gilly is going to have a much more important role to play going forward, why else would they show us she now knows how to read? Something is definitely up.

  35. Fun interview. Bradley’s an eloquent guy, and as Rich Stark already said, his brand of self-deprecating humor is just great.

    Glad to see that Gilly’s literary journey continues. I’m always in favor of Hannah Murray getting more to do. One of my favorite little scenes in Season 5 was when Shireen (sigh) was teaching Gilly how to read, and Sam spouted off on some long “Did you know …?” bit and Gilly just looked at him incredulously. “I know ‘S’.”

    One thing I’ll be very interested to learn is whether or not Sam ever finds out what happens to Jon. The Night’s Watch isn’t exactly going to advertise the fact that they murdered their Lord Commander, so the chances that the news would spread all the way to the Reach seem slim. But I could see it happening if the show wanted to show us Sam’s reaction (the poor guy wouldn’t almost certainly blame himself).

    Of course, if Jon comes back in the first two or three episodes, there may not be time for Sam to learn what happened, especially since I think he won’t be in the premiere and might sit out Episode 2 as well. Having Sam learn about Jon’s death after the character’s been resurrected might undercut the emotional power of the scene for the audience, though I’m sure that Bradley would still sell the hell out of it.

    Hey, at the very least it’ll be something to talk about if and when Jon and Sam are ever reunited. “Hey, old friend! Have I got a story to tell you …”

  36. pras,

    I completely agree. I wish I could restrain myself & watch it like a regular unsullied, Find out things only when they want us to find out. But I’m too deep into the spoiler territory now & there is no going back. Oh well.

  37. Arthur:
    Okay so, D&D decided to share with the viewer Gilly has become smart and Sam taught her to read.

    This has to be for a reason.

    I think Gilly is going to have a much more important role to play going forward, why else would they show us she now knows how to read?Something is definitely up.

    Shireen taught her how to read too.

  38. alienarea:
    Not related, just a thought:
    Melisandre could show Davos in episode 1 what s glamour is.By episode 2 or 3 Sansa arrives at the wall looking for help. Since Jon is really dead Melisandre glamours Davos as Jon to raise the Northern lords?

    that would be terrible. People want to see real jon and some fake version of him.

  39. Arthur:
    Okay so, D&D decided to share with the viewer Gilly has become smart and Sam taught her to read.

    If understanding that there is a difference between “sea” and “see” counts as smart today, I don’t want to live in this world…

    Totally agree re: Gilly and the stupid, stupid dialogue they give her. It’s not possible for anyone to be as dumb as she is. Her scenes are like nails on a chalkboard. I don’t mind Sam as much, at least when he’s with Jon.

  40. Deesensfan:
    So did he get more time than Sophie?

    I taped this as well.

    Maybe a minute more… around 9 minutes, but he didn’t have Nealon sitting by him the whole time. They had the same time layout – brought John out about 42 minutes in.

  41. chameleon: If understanding that there is a difference between “sea” and “see” counts as smart today, I don’t want to live in this world…

    Totally agree re: Gilly and the stupid, stupid dialogue they give her. It’s not possible for anyone to be as dumb as she is. Her scenes are like nails on a chalkboard. I don’t mind Sam as much, at least when he’s with Jon.

    How can you not get it? Gilly is born out of incest and lived her whole life in a hut in the middle of nowhere north of the wall. She never seen the sea, maybe heard about it, and she has never seen anything else than what Craster showed her (which is like, nothing..).

    I like that we see different kind of characters from different places in this twisted world. Some of them may not be as educated as others, what’s wrong with that? What do you want her to say?

  42. alienarea:
    Not related, just a thought:
    Melisandre could show Davos in episode 1 what s glamour is.By episode 2 or 3 Sansa arrives at the wall looking for help. Since Jon is really dead Melisandre glamours Davos as Jon to raise the Northern lords?

    Show watchers certainly won’t respond well to this. Better keep him dead if that’s the case.

  43. It’s great to finally get a glimpse of Sam and Gilly. I like this pair a lot. Gilly has continued to develop; waiting to see her turn into a lady with a modern touch.

  44. andriakenas,

    Exactly. His “Daughter Wives” were only there to further his little dynasty. It seems as though he felt they didn’t need to learn to read, only learn how to build fires, cook, and make more daughters he could breed with. He probably never anticipated any of them ever leaving Craster’s Keep. But I have a feeling Gilly has a part to play in the story to come. Why else would they include her this far into the story if she had nothing to contribute?

  45. Green Chili,

    Since we’ve seen clips of Davos addressing the Northern Lords as Davos, it is not very likely that he will also address them as a glamoured Jon.

  46. Deesensfan:
    Clob,

    ugh! that’s lame
    I think itll be the same for Emilia on thursday

    It could be a mistake in listing but I’m seeing Emilia as being the primary guest on Thursday. If she is, with the same layout she should be on for about 20 minutes with one commercial break in the middle. We’ll see.

  47. I can’t even, I’ve never seen a fandom engage in so much nonsensical tinfoil as GOT’s.

  48. Elizabeth,

    Next week as they get closer to the premiere, you’ll probably start seeing the heavy guns like Dinklage and Clarke on Colbert and Fallon.

  49. chameleon,

    If understanding that there is a difference between “sea” and “see” counts as smart today, I don’t want to live in this world…

    Totally agree re: Gilly and the stupid, stupid dialogue they give her. It’s not possible for anyone to be as dumb as she is. Her scenes are like nails on a chalkboard. I don’t mind Sam as much, at least when he’s with Jon.

    You’re missing the point, if you don’t know they are spelt different perhaps you’d never know they are different words. The point is she can now read. That was the importance of the dialog not the actual words “sea” and “see”, but apparently this went over your head… And you talk about the intelligence of Gilly?

    I am guessing D&D now want the viewer to know this because she will end up really helping Sam in his studies in future episodes.

  50. Hoyti Von Totiy: What the should have shown is the first encounter betwwen Sam and his old man…. now thats the stuff worthy of a clip.

    Yeah, give away all your good stuff on another show for free. Now we know why you don’t run a network.

  51. Personally, I think Gilly would be a lot more tolerable if she were sobbing over her

    baby swap

    for the entire trip.

  52. I had no idea Gilly had so many detractors. I love the character in the show… am I the only one? :/

  53. Arthur:
    Okay so, D&D decided to share with the viewer Gilly has become smart and Sam taught her to read.

    This has to be for a reason.

    I think Gilly is going to have a much more important role to play going forward, why else would they show us she now knows how to read?Something is definitely up.

    Shireen (snif) 🙁 also taught her to read. I think that was one of the few nice, sweet, happy moments in GOT – before Selyse came and ended it.

    Anyway, I think you might be right, this is the second time Gilly’s literacy has been brought up, so maybe it’ll have some bearing.

    As to the “sea”/”see” thing… If you’re not a native English speaker/writer who’s used to the oddities of spelling from an early age, you see how messed up the spelling system is. Gilly is approaching the written Common Tongue (English, for practical purposes) as any pre-literate would. When I was learning English and English spelling, I had the same type of questions. And remember, GOT is a worldwide TV phenomenon now, the non-native-English-speaking viewership might surpass the native-English-speaking viewership. Though many of the speakers of other languages will know English to varying degrees, often well enough to view without subtitles, in countries which don’t dub.

    I don’t envy the translator who has to translate that bit of convo for the subtitles in my language, because that word-play with homonyms (words that sound the same but mean different, plus the spelling thing “sea/”see”) just doesn’t exist in my language.

    But yeah, I like seeing Gilly getting into her own. Life at her father’s/husband’s Craster’s Keep was bleak and stunted her intellectual growth, now she’s been set free and is curious and eager to learn new things. Embraces the change, the sea, everything.

    In the books, Gilly is a much more subdued and one-dimensional character and
    (book spoilers)

    cries and is depressed most of the way to Oldtown because Jon Snow switched her baby with Mance Rayder’s baby, to protect Mance’s baby from Mel’s “king’s blood” fanaticism (i.e. Gilly’s baby, fathered by her father Craster, is still at CB). Sam doesn’t initially know this but learns it along the way – maybe just a little crack in Jon’s and Sam’s friendship..?

    I’¨m sure Gilly will have some role to play in how the story unfolds, and not only as a “love interest” to Sam.

  54. chameleon: If understanding that there is a difference between “sea” and “see” counts as smart today, I don’t want to live in this world…

    Totally agree re: Gilly and the stupid, stupid dialogue they give her. It’s not possible for anyone to be as dumb as she is. Her scenes are like nails on a chalkboard. I don’t mind Sam as much, at least when he’s with Jon.

    Plenty of adults in our modern age who don’t know what homonyms are, never mind some fantasy girl who probably only saw the written word for the first time a season ago. Following a lifetime of abuse and being sequestered on a small farm, I’m amazed she’s so well adjusted.

  55. Sam and Gilly are going to stir up some linguistic shit at Horn Hill and in the Citadel! Can’t wait to sea and here it!

  56. Warging might be interesting in a book with a POV structure, where the thoughts can be directly described. But in a visual medium it doesn’t have a lot of benefits. Jon wouldn’t be able to express himself through Ghost, which is the only way you have meaningful character interaction and development on TV. There’d be no benefit to it. Might happen in the books, but probably cut from show.

  57. Lord of Bones,

    So Gilly isnt fit, lol body shaming and
    House Applebee’s sake I hope you or you all dont spend the rest of the season whining about every little line since the show has surpassed the books. Sheesh

  58. taim,

    I agree. Besides, apparently, We already saw Davos in the battlefield, no? How could he appear as himself and also as Jon at the same time/place?

  59. I like Gilly and her progression, she’s being progressed into a very intelligent person who for the first time gets to blossom soaking in information like a sponge, add to this she knows the lore of northern history I think she’s going to point out something important to Sam.

    Looking at post here and around the net, I don’t think we progressed any better; to this day (whether,wether,wheather) English is your primary or not we still see (sea) people mix up (see,sea,C) (to,two,too) (there,their) and many more.

  60. John Bradley is just so great. I love interviews with him, he’s so intelligent, talkative, witty and self-deprecating. He stole the show at the Oxford Union thingy last year, D&D were looking to him to answer first, as was Kit Harington, and he delivered, and had the audience in stitches.

    He’s so good at dodging spoilers. He takes just one bit and talks about it and goes off on funny speculations and the audience forgets the original question.

    Sam’s probably one of the smartest guys in Westeros, and he’s also fairly honest and principled. One of my favourites, book and show, and John Bradley does such a great job portraying him.

  61. Luka Nieto,

    You are certainly not the only one who loves Gilly in the show! She’s great (though I’ll admit I can take or leave the book version of the character). Hannah Murray is a seriously underrated actress. And if I can be shallow for a second, she’s gorgeous. The make-up and costuming people have to do some serious work to make her look relatively plain. They’re not entirely successful.

    More importantly, I appreciate the sweetness and innocence that Gilly brings to what’s been a pretty dark corner of the show. I’m looking forward to seeing how see adjusts to her new, much sunnier surroundings. I can’t wait to see the look on her face when she first lays eyes on the Hightower – that’s going to blow her mind. 🙂

  62. Name *

    Well, I guess every win comes at a cost in GoT and it would make Sansa’s rise have a very bitter aftertaste (which would be fitting, because we can’t have nice things).

    But I’m with Luka, if he must die, I hope he doesnt’t have to suffer Ramsay’s torture games beforehand.

    Also, I think if it happens, we’ll never hear the end of it. There are so many fans that have the “little man” ride into Battle with an army of unicorns and becoming the Wolfking surpreme that I fear the debate and denial and hate towards the two D’s afterwards even more 🙂

  63. Luka Nieto,

    I think Murray is probably the most underrated actress on the show. Having someone who is mainly just a civilian is a nice POV to have in the main cast, even if mostly on the periphery.

  64. Happy to see I’m not the only one who enjoys Gilly’s character.

    r-hard:
    Name *,

    That leaked episode 9 stuff is probably true so Ramsay will

    Actually the leak explicitly said his fate was unknown after the arrow shot.

  65. Hodors Bastard:
    Sam and Gilly are going to stir up some linguistic shit at Horn Hill and in the Citadel! Can’t wait to sea and here it!

    I sea what you did their.

  66. I like Gilly too. She shows a different kind of strength. I have a soft spot for people who survive the kind of horrors they do and come out on top.

    And I thought this scene was cute! And Hannah Murray is very beautiful IRL.

  67. Wylie:
    Name *

    Well, I guess every win comes at a cost in GoT and it would make Sansa’s rise have a very bitter aftertaste (which would be fitting, because we can’t have nice things).

    But I’m with Luka, if he must die, I hope he doesnt’t have to suffer Ramsay’s torture games beforehand.

    Also, I think if it happens, we’ll never hear the end of it. There are so many fans that have the “little man” ride into Battle with an army of unicorns and becoming the Wolfking surpreme that I fear the debate and denial and hate towards the two D’s afterwards even more

    You’re talking about Rickon, right?

    Sue has confirmed that Rickon is NOT one of the corpses burning on the crosses. Maybe the Umbers and Boltons coddle him, the true Stark heir (though that’d undermine the Bolton claim to the North. I’m getting a bit confused here). Sansa is a girl and comes after any brothers. It’s all a bit messy.

    One thing I’m sure about. Rickon won’t be leading an army of Skagosi unicorns into battle. The kid is like, what, five or six (books), eight or nine (show), totally uneducated in anything but survival skills.

    I think he’ll survive in the books, he’s the “spare” Stark heir. Sansa will take him and his wild direwolf to hand (in the books, Sansa also has warging capabilities) and keep him in check as a kind of a mother figure to him.

  68. I love sam and gilly and grey worm and missandei.They are the only ones who bring a bit of softness to the show a bit of optimism otherwise what would we do with all the doom and gloom.Every main character is miserable or revengeful or trying to save the world so we need people like gilly

  69. Luka Nieto,

    She’s not a favorite character, but I do like her. Look at her horrible beginnings and all that she has to learn and accomplish to fit in to the world outside of Craster’s Keep. I’m sure it will be extremely awkward for her with Sam’s parents.

  70. Gilly in the books is effectively Penny, but taller. Count me as another who likes her improved show character.

    Jack Bauer 24:
    So exclusive Arya clip tonight?

    Fingers crossed!

  71. Not exactly sure where I should put this but what do you guys think of this

    http://puu.sh/ogTIO/09f528dded.png

    from the Tourney to Spain video?

  72. talvikorppi: Sansa will take him and his wild direwolf to hand (in the books, Sansa also has warging capabilities) and keep him in check as a kind of a mother figure to him

    That sounds like something I’d very much like to happen.

    And yeah, we were talking Rickon, but we weren’t refering to the burning crosses. I don’t know if you read all spoilers, if not, don’t click 🙂 if you don’t mind supposed spoilers for Ep 9, go ahead

    there was an extra on reddit who posted some information about the Battle for Winterfell and he claimed that Rickon would be shot with an arrow by Ramsay.
  73. tkk,

    Ah, could be. The best I can make of it is “GOOHD”, which doesn’t quite seem right. I guess the “GOO” could be “609”.

  74. El-Bobbie: I think they’ll keep the warging out of Jon’s resurrection.

    Flayed Potatoes: He seems to be making fun of the idea that Jon will be a talking dog forever, not the idea of temporarily warging.

    Either way, the show would have set this up as a possibility late last year if this was going to be important. Good storytelling is not just about firing the guns hung on the wall, but also about hanging the guns before they are fired.

    talvikorppi: in the books, Sansa also has warging capabilities)

    Sansa never does any warging in the books. The only reason why we know that Sansa could become a warg is that GRRM has said that the Stark kids do have innate warging talents. However, as Sansa has never developed her talents at all, it seems really implausible that she would be able to do much. (Rickon will be an interesting example of how GRRM’s warging theory, though: a child who wargs without training or restriction could be interesting.)

  75. Luka Nieto,

    Count me in as another who thinks that they’ve done a really good job with her. (And, of course, they basically deserve a special effects award for making her seem so plain on the show: I totally would have been in to her 20 years ago!)

    Seriously, what they have done with Gilly is make her like a modern Doctor Who companion instead of like an old Doctor Who companion. Sam (the Doctor) gets to spout off his knowledge to his foil (Gilly), but this foil talks back and keeps him in check. (Book!Gilly just seems to provide a reason for Sam to speak out loud.)

    Laura: Gilly in the books is effectively Penny, but taller. Count me as another who likes her improved show character.

    Or, what Laura wrote…. :tu:

  76. Name *,

    Yeah I’m not sure about this but I thought it would be interesting seeing as wasn’t this the place where Dany’s return to Meereen were filmed?(I think I remember some photos where you could see Dany near that big building). If it would happen in 609 then something cool like Dany leaving in 610 could happen and it would also kind of mean that episode 9 wouldn’t only be the battle in the north?

    Tinfoil hat is ON.

  77. tkk,

    Given how strong the parallels usually are between what those two characters do, your hat is not tinfoil! At any rate, both books and trailers hint to this.

  78. Wow. He makes the best case for avoiding spoilers that I’ve ever heard. I normally lap that stuff up (why I’ve come to this site at all, TBH) – but I can really understand that. Maybe it’s time I take a step back from obsessive online geeking out.

  79. @ Wylie.
    I don’t know anything about Rickon’s fate, except that our Sue confirmed that he’s NOT one of the flayed bodies burning on the crosses.

    I take those “extras'” leaks with a huge pinch, a sackful of salt. It might be true, but then again, it might not. No extra would know the whole script, just their own part. Maybe they chatted with main cast and crew afterhours, but it seems unlikely they’d know the whole story.

    So I’m sceptical of this rumour of Rickon getting an arrow in the eye.

    Wimsey:

    Sansa never does any warging in the books.The only reason why we know that Sansa could become a warg is that GRRM has said that the Stark kids do have innate warging talents.However, as Sansa has never developed her talents at all, it seems really implausible that she would be able to do much.(Rickon will be an interesting example of how GRRM’s warging theory, though: a child who wargs without training or restriction could be interesting.)

    I agree that the show has never shown any warging ability for any of the Stark kids except Bran. In the books, Bran and Arya and also Jon have “wolf dreams”, and Sansa has aborted, barely remembered wolf dreams.

    The show hasn’t brought this up and I doubt they will, so most probably it won’t figure. I was just spitballing because it’s so exciting to be off-books now. 😀

  80. Wimsey,

    I know. I’m just saying it’s not impossible to exclude warging. I wouldn’t bat an eyelash if other characters started warging after going through a traumatic event (like how Bran’s dreams happened after waking up on the show), but I don’t necessarily think the show is going to go in that direction. They will keep Bran as the only warg in the family. I don’t know if John Bradley has read the books, so he might not be familiar with all the theories. And fans frequently use book theories to speculate on what happens on the show. Look at Liam’s reaction when he was asked about Azor Ahai a couple of weeks ago. It’s natural.

  81. Antilles58:
    Wow. He makes the best case for avoiding spoilers that I’ve ever heard. I normally lap that stuff up (why I’ve come to this site at all, TBH) – but I can really understand that. Maybe it’s time I take a step back from obsessive online geeking out.

    I think John Bradley, in some earlier interview, said that people ask for spoilers, and then, if you give them spoilers, after the event they are angry at you because you “spoiled” it for them. Go figure.

    John Bradley obviously has never spoiled anything GOT to anybody, he was just talking in general terms. He’s also really good at dodging questions/spoilers, focussing on some inconsequential little detail and talking about that so that you forget about your big question.

    Love John Bradley.

  82. andriakenas,

    Do not bother to reply…they are just nitpicking and complaining for the heck of it and apparently already decided to dislike the character no matter what…her logical arc comes from being stuck all her life in the middle of nowhere and now having to adjust to stuff,words,places,people,actions she never knew could exist

  83. Arthur:
    chameleon,

    You’re missing the point, if you don’t know they are spelt different perhaps you’d never know they are different words.The point is she can now read.That was the importance of the dialog not the actual words “sea” and “see”, but apparently this went over your head… And you talk about the intelligence of Gilly?

    Haaa… Here’s a joke I told to a Dutch work friend of mine many years ago:

    Two nuns in the bath? One says to the other – “Where’s the soap?” The other replies “Yes, its does – doesn’t it!”

    He couldn’t see the funny side of it until I explained – Where – Ware (and Wear) are all pronounced the same, but have different meanings. He then rolled up laughing and told it to another Dutch mate who didn’t get it at first either 🙂

    On the subject of spelling – It makes me cringe how you folks in ‘Yankee Land’ have screwed up the written English language? I have to agree that a lot of it makes sense, like spelling ‘centre’ – center or ‘honour’ – honor. The same with replacing an ‘s’ with a ‘z’ also. e.g. UK English ‘Realise’ and US English ‘Realize’ …. However

    How the fuck can a ‘TIRE’ be a rubber cover that fits on a wheel? That is a TYRE (its a noun not a verb). ‘Tire’ is a state of being – like “I feel tired” – or “This job is tiring me out, etc.

    I rest my case 😉

  84. Henry Gordon,

    Here ‘s my theory:

    Sophie Turner will marry fellow ginger Harry Windsor (the prince of her dreams with a once disputed parentage) with Conan being the best man, and she will eventually recruit the help of Aidan Gillen to climb her way to the british throne.

    Hair Kissed By Fire and all

  85. Black Raven,

    I thought I knew English and varous accents fairly well but I’m not getting your nun joke.

    I have my own gripes with English (language, not country) spelling but the American spelling is actually slightly more logical and better phonetically than the British English spelling. Though, for personal reasons, I spell the British way. Jaime was in gaol (not jail) and is obsessed with honour (not honor). Oh, and that island off the Stormlands coast? Estremont. All the books and maps spell it Estermont, but that’s just American, and GRRM is American. I know it’s actually Estremont. LOL.

  86. Ravyn:
    Elizabeth,

    Next week as they get closer to the premiere, you’ll probably start seeing the heavy guns like Dinklage and Clarke on Colbert and Fallon.

    A couple more visits are popping up on the schedule for late night hosts next week.
    James Corden has Emilia on Monday and Lena on Wednesday.
    I haven’t seen any schedules for Fallon, Kimmel, Meyers or Colbert for next week yet.

  87. talvikorppi:
    Black Raven,

    I thought I knew English and varous accents fairly well but I’m not getting your nun joke.

    I have my own gripes with English (language, not country) spelling but the American spelling is actually slightly more logical and better phonetically than the British English spelling. Though, for personal reasons, I spell the British way. Jaime was in gaol (not jail) and is obsessed with honour (not honor). Oh, and that island off the Stormlands coast? Estremont. All the books and maps spell it Estermont, but that’s just American, and GRRM is American. I know it’s actually Estremont. LOL.

    Talvikorppi Ok, let me explain 😉

    One has to have a ‘dirty mind’ to appreciate that joke. The two nuns are in the bath so presume would be naked. One simply asks “Where’s the soap?” i.e. she is looking for it. The other says “Yes its does – doesn’t it”. She already has the soap, but is using it for sexual pleasure!! That is she is ‘wearing down’ the soap bar doing that act!

    Hope it makes sense now LOL 😀

  88. phantomstrife: I can’t even, I’ve never seen a fandom engage in so much nonsensical tinfoil as GOT’s.

    Then you’ve never dealt with Doctor Who fans, Harry Potter fans, Star Wars fans, Star Trek fans, Babylon 5 fans, Tolkien fans, New York Yankee fans…. er, as I have not got all day, let’s just round up and say that you’ve never dealt with fans!

    😉

    Flayed Potatoes: They will keep Bran as the only warg in the family.

    Possibly. However, this would be the season to have Jon and Arya start becoming wargs, if it is important or useful for their overall character arcs. A major trauma accelerated Bran’s shift from potential warg to an actual warg, and M,B&W might go that direction for those two characters, too: after all, that is an established plot/character device now, so the audience would recognize it.

    At any rate, it is a common enough motif in all sorts of stories to have people recovering from comas, head injuries, major emotional traumas, etc., to “heal” or recover themselves by re-bonding with something important from their past. Presumably M,B&W dug these huge holes for Jon, Daeny, Arya, etc., so that this story could be driven at least in part by the climb back out of the hole. That is another reason why warging by Jon and/or Arya might be done.

    Of course, this does not mean that it will happen – it probably won’t – only that it has to be in play. I always sort conjectures into three classes: 1) those relying on things that we know M,B&W are imagining; 2) things we do not know that M,B&W are imagining; and, 3) things that are at odds with what we know M,B&W are imagining. Anything in Class 1 is fair game without being Deus ex Machina or a plot hole, but given that there usually are multiple Class 1 possibilities for anything, most Class 1 possibilities still are going to be wrong! 😀

  89. talvikorppi: In the books, Bran and Arya and also Jon have “wolf dreams”, and Sansa has aborted, barely remembered wolf dreams.

    The show hasn’t brought this up and I doubt they will, so most probably it won’t figure. I was just spitballing because it’s so exciting to be off-books now.

    Ah, but this is a key difference between the books and the shows that we’ve seen from the start. The show never introduces things before they become relevant to the story being told that season. The books do that routinely. That is sensible: TV audiences are much less patient than are (some!) book readers, and violations of Chekhov’s Rule (where the “third act” here would be “Episode 10”) irk TV audiences. Most of the time in the books, these are background things that do not get in the way, but then move to center stage later. Put another way, because Jon or Arya warging never was going to be important in any of the prior 5 stories, it would have been too early to introduce it before this year.

    This does not mean that they are going to introduce it. After all, if they were ever going to have introduced YG or LSH, then presumably it would have been this season, as this is the earliest in which either might have been important to the actual story. However, they still have been cut. Now, it might mean that both are wastes of time in the books, too (a hypothesis that I do not dismiss!), but it also might mean that B&W feel that they can better adapt GRRM’s story to the screen without those characters. Warging might fall in the same category.

    We’ll know by August.

  90. Wimsey,

    Ah Wimsey, so you’re coming around to my idea that Jon may indeed warg (or have warged) into Ghost?

    You may recall our discussion a while ago when I mentioned what Weiss said to Harington at that Oxford Union meeting – “Season Six”. I don’t believe he was lying and then realised he may have let a spoiler slip and dropped the subject.

    I won’t say anymore on this until we know for sure in a few days time. Who will be correct? You with your Chekovian ‘hanging guns’ reasoning or me with my simple gut feeling instinct 🙂

  91. Wimsey,

    Definitely. If they have time to incorporate warging into Jon and Arya’s storylines, this is the perfect season to do it. I guess we’ll have to wait and see.

    I do wonder if Bran will try to get into contact with them via weirwood.net.

  92. This relation between Sam and Gilly is one of the little subtle things in Game of Thrones that I’m really starting to like. They bring me to a simpler, humbler and lighter human experience of discovery and change of perception, just like the friendship between Davos and Shireen. Because even though it seems unimportant, it’s still a journey for enduring suffering and finding light, and after all, there’s no sense in opposing the Army of the Dead to Life itself if you don’t have any glimpses of those kind of moments that constitute life and bring joy to it, and though they apparently indicate simplicity they are actually very mysterious!

  93. Jared:
    Luka Nieto,

    You are certainly not the only one who loves Gilly in the show! She’s great (though I’ll admit I can take or leave the book version of the character). Hannah Murray is a seriously underrated actress. And if I can be shallow for a second, she’s gorgeous. The make-up and costuming people have to do some serious work to make her look relatively plain. They’re not entirely successful.

    More importantly, I appreciate the sweetness and innocence that Gilly brings to what’s been a pretty dark corner of the show. I’m looking forward to seeing how see adjusts to her new, much sunnier surroundings. I can’t wait to see the look on her face when she first lays eyes on the Hightower – that’s going to blow her mind.

    You’ve done it again Jared! My feelings exactly.

    Luka, I adore her. It’s old news that the show has lucked out with their cast in general, but I think Hannah Murray and John Bradley are particularly delightful in their roles.

  94. Luka Nieto,

    I like Gilly, Sam and their relationship. It’s a pleasure to see two people who had thought happiness is not for them being able to find confort in each other. Their sweetness is sometimes amusing and sometimes moving.

  95. If I met John Bradley in a supermarket I would buy him a bag full of doughnuts. Unfortunately we don’t go shopping in the same places.

  96. Jared: And if I can be shallow for a second, she’s gorgeous. The make-up and costuming people have to do some serious work to make her look relatively plain. They’re not entirely successful.

    Totally agreed. It’s my secret hope that she is put into nice clothes by Sam’s mother and sister, and then their jaws hit the floor as she emerges, looking transformed and gorgeous! 😀

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