Filming for Game of Thrones season 6 at the Mesa Roldán in Almería has been confirmed, bringing another exciting new location into the mix of shooting in Spain.
According to La Voz de Almería, the news was announced by the local council through an official statement, detailing the filming decided by show producters and Carboneras mayor Salvador Hernández. La Voz reports that Mesa Roldán, its tower and its surroundings will hosting shooting this October. Mesa Roldán is a coastal mesa holding a lighthouse and the remains of a watchtower.
The publication reports that, “The producer has chosen Mesa Roldán for the beauty of its landscape, its easy access, its vegetation and the peculiarities of its land.”
In other location news, it’s been a very busy couple weeks for the extras casting agency in Spain, with Navarre, Almería and Girona. In the Valencian town of Peñíscola, casting was held on July 6th.
Casting director Rafael Guardamuro told ABC.es that they’ve seen “less people than expected,” though 1,700 people showed up to apply to be extras.
According to Guardamuro, though the announcement requested mostly dark-haired types, “There will be some blondes.” The casting director avoided confirming what Game of Thrones location Peñíscola will be, when speaking with ABC.es.
Hodor!
Very interesting news, especially since this design seems to resemble a certain Tower in Westerosi-history quite a bit… or it least it could fit to some extent.
“There will be some blondes”. This seems to indicate that this is Westeros rather than Essos, most likely Dorne (Stony Dornish) or Oldtown (Blonde due to being populated by men and women from the reach).
Blonde is particularly interesting since if this location would really indicate a part of Dorne, it has to be one with a partially blonde population, which only the Stony Dronish are. Now which House is Stony Dornish and is affiliated with a strange tower: Dayne.
I would either say it´s really ToJ and a flashback or it´s some kind of “lighthouse” on a island located before Oldtown
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Tower of Joy?
Oldtown?
I was thinking ToJ at first glance too…
It could really be ToJ. Look at this panormanic shot, it just has the right desolate atmosphere for
http://images.placesonline.com/photos/25527_wachturm_bei_mesa_roldan_almeria.jpg
(sorry, only found a german link)
This may be an oddball idea, since we’ve had no indication that the story’s going there yet in the books or in the show, but after googling this place, and seeing a prominent rock cliff and an adjacent sea, I’d love to see them blend this and some CGI to create Casterly Rock and Lannisport. (There will be blondes, after all).
It’d be a lot of CGI though, so it probably is ToJ.
Sword of the Morning confirmed!
Seems pretty small to be ToJ.
However, the landscape looks near perfect.
Take the tower as is, add CGI to double/triple the height from far away, then all the fight scenes will be up close and only require low shots of the tower.
Looks like ToJ. No idea why they feel the need to show what went on there beyond Ned and Lyanna. Has no relevance to the show and it won’t be done justice as no one will know nor care about the characters or fully understand why they’re doing what they are. Hope it’s just not another thing to hang an action scene on. That was my major issue with Season 5.
If it’s the ToJ used as a location for characters or plot to unfold then that’s fine and they can reference what went on there and allude to Ned’s promise. Recreating the whole fight outside of there when none of the characters will mean anything (including Ned who will have to be recast) seems a waste of screentime when they’ve already got enough to cram in. Still hoping the apparent Dayne casting is for a Jaime flashback to remind him of what being a Kingsguard is about. Also quite worried of the potential of staying in Dorne considering the car crash it was last season.
Knight of Storm´s End,
Thanks for that image. It most certainly could be the Tower of Joy.
It’s been reported that the extras of Peniscola will be slaves:
http://3×4.info/2015/07/peniscola-proporciona-a-juego-de-tronos-1-200-esclavos-y-otros-personajes/
Almería won’t be Tower of Joy IMO because in the casting call for that spot they asked for people with mediterranean-dark skin or even black and tall people.
It’s not a big surprise that not many people came to the last casting calls. They were released pretty late, only or two days before the casting and the conditions were pretty harsh: people tall and with dark hair in Navarra (in the North of Spain they have usually light hair); and people tall with really dark skin or as I said even black people in Almería, and most of the people there have mediterranean skin, a bit darker than usual white, but not at all black or even South-America/Obama mid dark skin.
mariamb,
You´re welcome.
Aethar,
Not reliable source. They may be slaves, but that is just guessing due to the dark skin conditions required
“Casting director Rafael Guardamuro told abc.es that they’ve seen ‘less people than expected'”
Fewer.
That place could be ToJ if they film there without extras, just the 10 warriors. But as I said the casting call for extras doesn’t fit with the description of the area of the ToJ
Guys there is zero confirmation that the ToJ or Arthur Dayne will be shown at all. This is all supposition/ wishful thinking and is exactly what gets the fandom riled up with false expectations. You’re only setting yourselves up to be grossly disappointed later, followed by the customary accusing D&D of ruining “your” show. Have we learned nothing from LSH?
I wish they had more details on what was being used, the lighthouse, tower or battery! All three could be used or none if they just use the terrain itself.
If they do use the buildings both El Torreón de Mesa Roldan and Batería de Mesa Roldán would make great Tower of Joy locations! The Mesa Roldan Lighthouse could make for the basis of Hightower in Oldtown as well.
Javi,
They wouldn´t need extras por the ToJ scene 🙂
Paul,
What’s wrong with a little speculation? Must life be so dull that we shouldn’t consider or discuss anything that doesn’t have confirmation?
There are some compelling signs that the Tower of Joy will be in the show, such as a casting call matching the description of Arthur Dayne, and now this shooting location resembling the description of the Tower and its surrounding area.
Seriously, don’t be a wet blanket. Let’s have some fun and speculate.
That looks as TOJ as TOJ could be. I really hope they’re showing this. This location plus that casting call for one of the best swordsmen in Europe is certainly good circumstantial evidence.
Unless this tower is the only location in Almeria, the fact that they’re casting extras isn’t really an argument against this being ToJ.
Paul,
Exactly!!
This. Speculation is part of the fun of this fandom. I don’t get why it bothers people.
Paul,
There hasn’t been any direct confirmation, but the casting call so strongly hints at
that it’s more likely him than not. And although he could be included in scenes other than
Knight of Storm´s End,
Whoa, that’s a stunning vista! Count me joyous.
I’ve learned I’m very, very bad at speculation. In fact, if you want to be wrong, agree with me on anything.
That being said, I’m kind of hoping we get the ToJ. It’s established in ADWD that Bran’s learning how to use the Worldwide Wierwood Web. Having him see whatever happened there could be interesting. Regardless of who may or may not have been born there or who promised who what, it was something that affected his father’s life in a huge, huge way.
THAT being said, if it turns out to be some kind of Westerosi gas station I won’t be upset. Surprised, but not upset.
Just a question for (some of) the people here.
The Citadel. Especially considering it’s right on the ocean. TOJ isn’t (in the book anyway.)
I was thinking…. what if Jon…..dreams about the ToJ, and finds out that way (likely via Bran giving him that dream via WeirwoodFi?)
Sam,
Not in the show. Remember Bran’s visions in season four.
Sam,
In the television show, Bran doesn’t need a weirwood to see visions. I don’t think that’s even explicitly said to be the only means of visions in the books either. On show, He’s already seen visions of scenes that occurred like Ned incarcerated. He’s also seen scenes that haven’t happened yet like the dragons flying over King’s Landing. No weirwoods were involved in the sight of course,
So this is the fifth tower of joy and eighth citadel lol.
My money is on TOJ. Ever since they released the casting info I have suspected they will do some character simplification like they have in the past. I’d bet good money on them dropping everyone other than Dayne, Ned, and Reed when they do the TOJ scene. The others serve little purpose to the show narrative. No one will know who they are and it won’t matter much either. Simplifying it to just Dayne guarding the tower and confronted by Ned and Howland makes it an easier narrative to tell for the show audience who is unfamiliar with what goes on here. Especially since we know from the source material Howland does something significant with Dayne to prevent Ned from being killed. Showing the other men with Ned and the other 2 Kingsguard just killing each other is pointless for an audience who will have no idea who they are to begin with.
Sam,
Also possible Meera tells him this story. Like the book.
The show has barely begun to establish rules of Bran’s vision abilities, beyond touching a weirwood and seeing all kinds of stuff, including the Night’s King lair beyond the wall and Ned in the black cells. It’ll be interesting, then, to see how the visions come about and into play. My guess, is that the show will simplify it down to just touching and being connected to the trees opening up an omnipotent view, no seeing through tree faces required. Which…eh…it’d still be nice to see Bran play Old Gods through one of em, maybe he sees through the trees the very present? While past and future events are fair game?
Backing up Paul. I love speculation. I hate the silly “Confirmed” meme.
A vague casting call or location is discovered. Someone links it to a specific character or location. Someone else ties to to some fan theory and adds “Confirmed” followed by “Get Hype.”
That leads to people actually thinking this wild, usually off target, speculation has actual merit.
But hey, it’s supposed to be funny. Isn’t it?
james,
Agree. If we get the Tower of Joy, it will be a simplified scene as you describe.
Could be Tower of Joy – with CGI making it more tower-like and the existing structure acting as an entrance.
Or it could be connected to the Dothraki horde that has taken Dany. That’s actually what I thought when I first saw it.
Bugsy Malone,
Or even if he did need a weirwood (which I agree, so far the show has not been running with that idea), there can be a weirwood anywhere the show wants there to be one.
With CGI it might be even Drogon’s chamber pot… Dragon poo confirmed! No hype!
Gatehouse Ami,
Nero Martell,
Meera doesn’t know about the ToJ. Only Jojen knew, because he had a dream.
HotPinkLipstick,
You’re so right! Deepwood Motte CONFIRMED!
#GETHYPE
Paul,
Who do you suspect the casting call for an experienced swordsman (the “paragon of knighthood”) with a famous sword is?
HotPinkLipstick,
Making other people believe it’s confirmed is part of the fun.
Dany,
“And the mystery knight should win the tourney, defeating every challenger, and name the wolf maid the queen of love and beauty.”
“She was,” said Meera, “but that’s a sadder story.”
“Are you certain you never heard this tale before, Bran?” asked Jojen.
“Your lord father never told it to you?” Bran shook his head.
I think that ToJ is going to happen this season as a way to visually connect young HR to current HR/HS and shed some light on his real motivations in King’s Landing.
Would love to see Ned again – even in flashback form.
I want so badly for it to be TOJ for what that implies about Jon Snow and the shows past and future —- I’m so scared to want it so much, because GOT likes to rip out my heart and shred it to pieces, then set it on fire as sacrifice to R’hllor
Less people than expected?
Where’s Stannis when you need him?
I really want to know where they are going to film Last Hearth.
Off topic but Maisie in People throws cold water on the Jon Snow is coming back theory, says entire cast is mourning that Kit is done. http://www.vulture.com/2015/07/maisie-williams-is-super-sure-jon-snows-dead.html
Your grace, you’ve just won yourself one Snorlax nicknamed “Your daughter”, it’s holding a Burn Heal.
You know what’s very easy to edit out? Every bit of water that shouldn’t be there. Just cut the coastline and then add general desert scenery. Nah, with Towering Joy, this must be the Tower o’ Joy.
Now, what would really get my N.E.R.D.-spasm going would be a casting reel at SDCC to go something like this:
– My name is Actor X and I’m playing Euron Greyjoy. Haha! Yar! *snort* Argh!
– My name is Actor Y. I’m playing Randyll Tarly.
– My name is Actor Z. I’m playing Hother Umber.
– My name is Actor AA and I’m very excited to play [s]Azor Ahai[/s]Arnolf Karstark
– My name is Actor BB and I’m playing Ser Arthur Dayne, sword of the morning.
– My name is Sean Bean.. And I’m playing Lord Eddard Stark.
MIND IS BLOWWWWN!!!!!
james,
Eugh. A simplified version would be terrible and just as pointless as a larger one. Again, I don’t see the relevance to the show. Plus Dayne would end Ned and Reed very quickly in a fight unless someone warging into his brain happened which you could see in the chaos of 7 vs 3 but not as easily in 2 vs 1. I say leave the ToJ as the mysterious event it is. If it’s going to be done then hope for a Robert’s Rebellion prequel of some sort when an attempt to do it justice can be done. Shoving it in the show for cool points is a mistake IMO. The Cersei flashback added nothing to the overall plot IMO and I doubt this would.
I think Ned had the tower torn down to make graves for the eight who died there so unless they change that plot point then it has to be used for a flashback. Plus I don’t know why they’d need the best swordsman in Europe for a 1vs1 fight. Surely it would be easy to choreogrpah that with less skilled swordsman whereas someone fighting multiple opponents would need more skill?!
Ah off season worry. You return to me like an old friend.
Also, guys. We won’t be getting Sean Bean back an Ned if it’s flashback. He’s far too old to play Ned in that period of his life.
Ravyn,
She’s simply stating the obvious here. Jon Snow is dead and he’s not coming back. We all know this. The thing about Kit, it really sounds like he’s gone from the show. Tony Soprano walk (they’ve done this everytime some character gets killed and actor is leaving the show) and these interviews. Ughhh I hate this waiting.
HotPinkLipstick,
Thanks you! 🙂
I don’t wanna rain on people’s parade but there really is not much to indicate the ToJ or certainly AD. Hell, 99.9% of viewers won’t even have a clue who he is if he appeared. For all we know this swordsman could be fighting the mountain, or an Ironborn or even a bloody WW.
Has anyone thought of the possibility of there being one episode that takes place entirely in the past?
We’ve heard bits of pieces of the lore through the show and given the cliffhanger on Season 5 it would probably be good to present the past in full before moving on to the future: Brandon Stark & Littlefinger? Tower of Joy? Tourney at Harrenhal? Mad King? Anything that clearly states the main characters’ motivations before entering the final stretch.
Doing it in an entire episode would also provide a chance to introduce characters properly, with some exposition.
Sean Bean can still totally pull it off.. Or they can just C/P some Boromir-stuff into that scene..
I really can’t stand this “she’s stating the obvious” “Jon SNOW, not Kit Harington, or not Jon Targaryen” and than go on to be worried about stories being told about Kit Harington not coming back. Citing reasons that could so easily be constructions to fake out the general audience. The “Tony Soprano”-walk? What evidence do we have that it even happened? Absolutely zero.. Quite easily a lie/ruse three key people are sticking with. Just because other actors say that it happened with them, doesn’t mean that D&D+K actually did this and are not just using this pre-existing knowledge of a cast-sendoff-ritual to fake us out. And shocker, the cast are actors and actresses.. Why shouldn’t we doubt their sincerity when something as obvious is at hand? It’s their job to perform stories.
Weiss even explicitly noted at Kit being in Season Six during the Oxford Union sitdown..
The best swordman in europe + a tower in the middle of nowhere = you do the math
As for the flashback thing, everyone seems to forget that last season there was a flashback and Bran was nowhere to be seen
Starfall!
Knight of Storm´s End,
Blondes might well mean people of Valyrian descent, of which there are many in some places in Essos. Presumably, Daeny will be hitting one or two this season, so we should not be surprised to see casting calls like this.
As for towers, well, towers would be in any and all cities. So, it is equal evidence for all, and thus no particular evidence for any one.
Paul,
That seems to get forgotten! I think that people are still subconsciously assuming that cut Crows/Dragons material when interpretting things. However, we have to consider the possibility that this will be some incidental character that does not become important until the 6th book.
Ser Oromis Locke,
Also, CGI’ing years off is pretty easy, particularly given that they usually use much duller colors and generally lower contrasts when doing flasback scenes. Flashbacks almost never look like other parts of a show or film, after all: producers always try to add spme “dream-like” qualities to it so that the audience is visually cued.
Ser Oromis Locke,
It’d look sloppy IMO. Seems a forced way of bringing Sean Bean back into the show when he’s not really needed. If people want a young Sean Bean then go and watch old episodes of the excellent Sharpe!
I know it was said in a comical context. But why make that joke in the first place? Why specifically pull a redherring there? Why not just make a joke like: “in your dreams?” That still has some meta-weight, considering Jon Snow’s warg-dream in I believe it was aCoK and later on. But nope, lets specifically mention S6 here.
Correct, the showrunners aren’t amateurs, which again leads me to believe that they would shut down all questions regarding if he would return – or simply avoid them. Que D&D not being at ComicCon. Similarly the cast aren’t amateurs either so they’ll stick to the story their told to tell.
It’s very easy to see their “answers” as a fake out, even without going to the length of conspiracy theories such as the ones formed around that movie being shot with Kit and Carice.
Shawn,
The TOJ couldn’t have been that big considering that
It’s the Hightower in Oldtown, IMO. Some CGI will be used to make it taller, but this will be the base that they work with.
The most telling part of that interview was when Maisie said the actors have been dealing with Kit not being around anymore since last awards season. Even though I don’t see a way he DOESN’T return, I’m beginning to waver in my belief .
Mormota101,
Blame the leecher, not the leech.
I also want to believe this will be the locale for the ToJ. But if the casting calls are correct, why would they need so many extras in this general locale if it were just for the ToJ?
I have a out-in-left-field idea. How about some other part of Essos where Team Dany will be. If the show is truly going to finish up in 7 seasons, presumably she needs to haul ass to get to Westeros. It’s possible this will be do film, say Lys or maybe Tyrosh, on her way over.
Just a random thought…
MRRG,
I’m wondering about it as well and for the same reason….
It’s so hard to guess where Dany may go between Meereen and Westeros, but I would think at least one of these 4 Spanish locations will be for the Dany/ Daario/ Jorah arc. Either in Essos or Westeros since Team Dany could land in Dorne by Season’s end… At least in theory.
Also, I wonder how much of Dorne we will see this year… ToJ or Starfall could be in flashbacks, but they may not require long shoots with so many extras. Plus, I don’t see either location taking multiple weeks of shooting though… Maybe I’m wrong.
In the Arianne sample chapter Dorne’s army is on the move North using the Boneway and Prince’s Pass through the Red Mountains. Will show-Doran send an army North in a similar manner? Maybe we could see one or both of the passes or nearby Nightsong or Summerhall. IIRC Summerhall is basically ruins so the tower may work nicely…
Otherwise Navarre’s Bardenas Reales Natural Park could be the foothills of the Red Mountains or the Red Mountains themselves with a little VFX magic.
Both Dany’s arc and Dorne’s army (if they march in the show) would require a lot of extras I would assume…..
If they are doing Robert’s Rebellion and ToJ flashbacks can we please have Harry Lloyd pull a Garrett Dilahunt and play Rhaegar? By the old Gods and New please make this happen!
Shouldn’t the ToJ have a more phallic look to it?
Benaario Staharis,
CGI can do wonders. take Hardhome there is actoully no cliif there, it’s all CGI’d
Here is another view of the tower
http://www.inatura.es/dt/img/puntos/533.jpg
FTW….WTF,
if that’s not ToJ i don’t know what is
Yes, I can almost picture A. Dayne and his two companions bravely defending the tower against The Ned, Howie Reed & the rest of the Ned-Gang.
“Now it begins”
“No, now it ends”
…..with a soundtrack by Ennio Morricone.
If Arthur Dayne is in the next season does that mean Sean Bean will be back or are they looking for another actor to play a YOUNG Eddard Stark?
Ravyn,
Ahhh
I hate reading this shit!
I am starting to question and doubt my beliefs that Jon “Kit Harington” Snow is coming back. 🙁
I watched Hardhome last night… it would be seem just so wrong to kill Jon forever after that. Unless, as I have said before, this was his heroic send off.
It just doesn’t seem right….
I do not know what TOJ is but I want it to be on next season because people are hyping it up!!!!!!!
Either Jon Snow will be brought back in the first episode, or he will be brought back in the very last episode as the cliffhanger for s7.
What I would love to see happen is for the cold open next season be toj and make the fight like 5 minutes long including word for word the badass quotes right before they fight. After the fight have the “promise me” scene and have it end with her saying “name him Jon”. BOOM cue the game of thrones intro.
THEN have Mel revive Jon and the end of the episode. Can you imagine what it will be like when Mel yells at Jon to get up over and over? EVERYONE EVERYWHERE will be yelling at the tv for Jon to get up and when he does, I swear episode 2 will have 10 million viewers when it airs.
I don’t get this hype about the Tower of Joy. Maybe we’ll have a little flashback of Ned and Lyanna to explain Jon’s parentage, but that’s it. There’s no reason to add Arthur Dayne and stuff like that… The “legendary fighter” from the casting list could be a dothraki or Azor Ahai (for a short Mel vision) or someone else in a fighting pit. It doesn’t make sense to introduce the “legendary fighter” Arthur Dayne and show him only 30 seconds in one fight… Especially when D&D cut so many characters.
Deesensfan,
Read these interviews and take a good moment to laugh, my friend.
Kit, Emilia, Maisie… all actors and still not convincing XD
He always comes back. Maybe not next season, but he will.
And also, on topic and in the most classic way: Tower of Joy CONFIRMED; #getHype
Oldtown confirmed, not Tower of Joy. The Tower of Joy doesn’t require 1700 extras…
Moka,
I don’t get it as if the 1700 extras are requited for specifically THIS location?
But this is not even my language so I may be wrong.
Totally off topic, but I couldn’t think of where else to ask.
I have been looking into Hodor theories and can’t come across anything about the theory I have been wrestling with.
Is there any possibility that Hodor is basically mute after he saw something horrible happen in the crypts regarding Ned returning Lyanna’s bones? We know he is afraid of the crypts, and I was thinking he must be about the right age to have possible witnessed it, but I don’t know when he stopped talking.
Does anyone have any links regarding this theory? I can’t find anything on the Hodor/Theories I have looked at.
TheTouchOfFrost,
If they do a flashback they could reveal Jon’s mom as Lyanna, which would confirm the whole prince that was promised thing, R+L = J. It’s possible that Lyanna died while giving birth to Jon, at the Tower of Joy. Mel could see the flashback in the flames, or bran could see the flashback through the tree and then show them to Mel in the flames. Wouldn’t it be neat to find out that this whole time Mel’s images in the flames were actually Bloodraven’s doing instead of her God’s? hahaha I would laugh my ass off
Queen of the Keys,
I know I know… I don’t wanna get my hopes up though 🙁
I hadn’t realized both the image on this page and pics of a round tower were just different sides of the same structure, after seeing this viewpoint I can visualize the structure as being the base of the ToJ. with CGI extending it to a much greater height.
To be precise, Hodor isn’t mute. The implication in the following passage is that Hodor has always only said “Hodor,” even though he seems to understand more.
We know that Hodor is part giant. We know that giants only speak the Old Tongue even though they (or at least Wun Wun) seem to understand the common tongue. So I think the most natural theory is that Hodor can only speak Old Tongue, like his ancestors. I wonder what Hodor means in Old Tongue.
Ginevra,
Thanks!
So did he ever speak? Was he mute then started saying ‘Hodor’ all of the sudden? Did he used to speak and then stop?
From that passage I gather he never spoke, then started saying ‘Hodor’ one day?
Ser Oromis Locke,
All I’m saying is that Jon story could go forward even without Kit.
Oxford Union ? People still take this as a proof ? 😀
If the Iron born are back this could be some of the Shield Islands? They have beacons of fire to communicate with the mainland. The light house and the tower could be these beacons?
how?
Mesa Roldan is an anagram for “Alarmed Son”, which perfectly describes how Sandor felt when Gregor burned up his face and his dad totes covered for Gregor. He was probably all like, “ahhhhh I’m so alarmed that this is happening right now!”
Cleganebowl confirmed.
Sam,
Bran won’t need a weirwood
ADWD, Bran III.
Or rather “same Ronald” which confirms that Ronnie Reagan will make a cameo as G. Hightower…..
Benaario Staharis,
Now you’re just being ridiculous.
My mistake, according to that Emilia interview it was obviously some other actor turned politician confirmed as Hightower…….well about that anagram, how about Ron Perlman confirmed as Victarion?
Well, the casting list description says :
– He carries a hugely famous sword on his back.
The hilt of the greatsword Dawn poked up over his right shoulder. (AGoT, Eddard X)
– He’s a great swordsman and a paragon of knighthood.
Eddard Stark describe Arthur Dayne as “the finest knight” he ever saw, when the Kingsguard “was a shining lesson to the world.” (ACoK, Bran III)
If he’s a knight, he can’t be a dothraki or Azor Ahai (which is a legendary character from Essos)
Moka: Oldtown confirmed, not Tower of Joy. The Tower of Joy doesn’t require 1700 extras…
The first part of the article describe the new location where they’ll be shooting in October, which is pretty late so they won’t do a lot of scenes there.
The second part mention how went the castings for the extras in Spain.
Here’s my prediction for first scene of season six:
I did not know that. I always thought the conventional wisdom was that Hodor was
Benaario Staharis,
I could be OK with that…
at least more OK than I would be with the actor-turned-politician-turned-actor making anything more than a “pause the frame at 37:04 and you can see the back of his head in the lower-right of the frame” type of cameo.
Deepwood Motte confirmed!!!
Sword of the Morning,
the fight scene has to make sense to non-book readers like myself
but I would love that…
Does anyone know where the Dragonstone scenes from past seasons were filmed?
Kay,
based on internet search –
Downhill Beach in Northern Ireland – for Mel burning 7 Gods.
Dungeons where Davos was – Shane’s Castle in Belfast??
I am assuming the other Dragonstone stuff was inside..
‘Dafuq! Martin Freeman confirmed as Arthur Dent…get hype!
I’ll be ecstatic if the scene keeps the dialogue. It is probably my favorite in the series (book and show):
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Some space in case the spoiler tags don’t work
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“We were not there,” Ser Gerold answered.
“Woe to the Usurper if we had been,” said Ser Oswell.
“When King’s Landing fell, Ser Jaime slew your king with a golden sword, and I wondered where you were.”
“Far away,” Ser Gerold said, “or Aerys would yet sit the Iron Throne, and our false brother would burn in seven hells.”
“I came down on Storm’s End to lift the siege,” Ned told them, and the Lords Tyrell and Redwyne dipped their banners, and all their knights bent the knee to pledge us fealty. I was certain you would be among them.”
“Our knees do not bend easily,” said Ser Arthur Dayne.
“Ser Willem Darry is fled to Dragonstone, with your queen and Prince Viserys. I thought you might have sailed with him.”
“Ser Willem is a good man and true,” said Ser Oswell.
“But not of the Kingsguard,” Ser Gerold pointed out. “The Kingsguard does not flee.”
“Then or now,” said Ser Arthur. He donned his helm.
“We swore a vow,” explained old Ser Gerold.
Ned’s wraiths moved up beside him, with shadow swords in hand. They were seven against three.
“And now it begins,” said Ser Arthur Dayne, the Sword of the Morning. He unsheathed Dawn and held it with both hands. The blade was pale as milkglass, alive with light.
“No,” Ned said with sadness in his voice. “Now it ends.”
Deesensfan,
Thanks. I wonder if the outside rocks and the castle (with CGI-dragon carvings all over the walls) were all totally CGI. I have this feeling that we will see Dragonstone again, though it may not be till Season 7.
Dolorous Methuselah
Thanks for the dialogue. I am not a book reader, so didn’t know the exact words. How interesting that the Kingsguards at the ToJ seemed still so faithful to Aerys as King. Huh!
Ginevra,
How do we know that Hodor is part giant? I don’t recall anything other than a passing comment – there wasn’t any concrete evidence.
Ryan,
I wouldn’t have issue with that part being a flashback as it’s critical to the plot. The dust up outside has no bearing on it whatsoever though!
Do hope Mel gets some sort of come-uppance!
It IS interesting. But my take on it was that it was designed to show how bad-a** they were and how seriously they took their oaths and vows. Not that they really held Aerys in high regard. I think even Jamie wouldn’t have interfered with Aerys except that it came to Aerys or Jamie’s father (and pretty much all of King’ Landing) as depicted in that great scene with Jamie and Brienne in the baths on the show.
An even more interesting issue (IMHO) is WHO the Kingsguard are tasked to protect and who was in that tower that met the definition.
Tower of joy!!!
Mormota101,
Well you’d better stop watching then, because this is the crux of the entire story. I mean if you don’t want to know who Jon Snow really is, who is the true king, why the story is called “A song of Ice and Fire” then by all means cover your eyes and plug your ears.
I guess you were pissed when Darth Vader revealed he was Luke’s father.
Dolorous Methuselah,
It’s been awhile since I’ve read that, thanks. Any thoughts on what the line “Ned’s wraiths moved up beside him, with shadow swords in hand” implies?
I know Ned had six companions, Reed and Cassel among them. I know Ned remembers he would have died had it not been for HReed, and that they are the only two who survived. I know there is much speculation that Reed used some type of magic…. but what type of magic, and why were the terms “wraith” and “shadow swords” used? Were they dead men raised to fight?? Or is this just GrrM giving a shoutout to JrrT?
For me, the most interesting issue, is on WHOSE orders the KINGSguards were there in the first place, if they claimed that if they were at KL, Aerys would yet sit on the Throne. This is puzzling in light of the trillions of posts on the subject by readers.
Yes, that is what I think, too, but I think he started his Hodoring as a toddler, which is why Walder never stuck as a name but Hodor did.
Dolorous Methuselah,
Paul,
Hmm, I thought it was explicit, but it only seems implied. Here are some quotes:
(BTW, there’s good reason to think that Brienne has descended from Ser Duncan.)
I always attributed it (the reference to the wraiths and shadow swords) to the fact that I think Ned was in the deep dungeons of the Red Keep and (if I remember correctly) maybe injured and kind of delirious and he was half remembering and half dreaming. But honestly I could be way off on that.
Another possible answer could be that this group was some sort of special force that Ned and Howland put together (a medieval form of black ops?) and that as you point out some have speculated may have used magic.
One thing I noticed on re-reading that is that Ned kind of comes off as a-holish in the way he addresses the Kingsguard. Or at least it can be read that way without the benefit of tone and inflection.
I haven’t read through the whole thread, so if someone has already touched on this, my apologies.
I think there could be a good reason to show the fight (which I’m guessing Bran will see through the Weirnet)
Nymeria Warrior Queen,
Except Dawn is not Valyrian Steel..
According to House Dayne it is made from the heart of a fallen star.. Hence Starfall is their ancestral castle and their coat of arms design..
That said, Dawn could still play an important role in the series’ endgame because it is so unique…. or perhaps the show could make Dawn “just a” Valyrian Steel sword if its origin is unimportant.
FlayRamsay,
Ohh,someone is angry,lol,grow up you fucking pathetic virgin loser !
Darquemode,
Duh. Of course, you’re right. I feel like a bit of a bonehead for forgetting that, but it always stays in my mind as a Valyriain Steel sword. My silly brain just probably thinks, “Dawn=special sword, special sword = valyrian Steel.” I’ll never forget, again, though.
Nymeria Warrior Queen,
No worries!
If I recall there was something about Dawn being so old its origins are unknown. The “star” stories are all told by Daynes who may or may not even know the truth. I think we were told it has many of the same properties of Valyrian Steel despite looking very different. So…
Who knows! XD
I know some think Dawn is Lightbringer (despite it not being red) and that could be very interesting if
Not sure I believe that (timing issues), but the concept is kinda fun!
New locations confirmed by HBO!
http://www.canalplus.es/juego-tronos/fan-site/rodaje-t6/
H.Stark,
Wow, exciting news!
Castillo de Santa Florentina (Canet de Mar, Barcelona): http://castelldesantaflorentina.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/Photo_5.jpg
and Castillo de Zafra (Guadalajara): http://repositorio.turismocastillalamancha.com/miscelanea/173424/49/a2f4/castillo-de-zafra.jpg
Those are new, aren’t they?
FlayRamsay,
Holy spoiler alert! Vader is Luke’s dad!?!?!?!?!
JJ, but it did make me laugh out loud.
Ginevra,
Nuts, I was really hoping the Hodoring started following something traumatic, but we don’t really have a timeline of when he started saying it to match up with other events happening at the time.
H.Stark,
Zafra looks like another ToJ candidate. Maybe.
Good catch. That’s what I was leaning towards but the text you cited pretty much confirms that.
Dolorous Methuselah,
TheBlackSwan,
Thank you, good catch indeed! Delirious dreaming and hazy memory. Still doesn’t rule out HR magic though….
As for Ned being an A hole- I think he was just calling them out, genuinely confused, and interested in why they were not doing their duty protecting their king. Up to the point of
I think it shows another dimension to Ned, specifically that he was a badass motherfucker.
Ryan,
Especially if it turns out that Bloodraven is her father, as some theories suggest.
I just had an idea. Does anyone else think this could be the Children’s Tower at Moat Cailin?
Beautiful structure. Now that I myself am nothing more than an Unsullied, the possibilities are ripe with promise!