Game of Thrones season 5 episode synopses and title of episode 8 revealed!

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HBO has officially released the synopses for all May episodes of Game of Thrones today. Though the synopses remain as always vague, they do reveal at least one thing: the title of episode 8. As many had speculated, the episode will be called “Hardhome.”

Episode synopses (and the spoilers contained within) are below the cut!

Episode #44: “Sons of the Harpy”
Debut: SUNDAY, MAY 3 (9:00-10:00 p.m. ET/PT)
Other HBO playdates: May 3 (11:30 p.m., 2:00 a.m.), 4 (11:15 p.m.), 5 (9:00 p.m., 2:20 a.m.), 6 (12:30 a.m.), 7 (10:00 p.m.), 8 (9:00 p.m.), 9 (12:15 a.m.) and 15 (8:00 p.m.)
HBO2 playdates: May 4 (9:00 p.m.), 8 (2:40 a.m.), 9 (3:30 p.m.), 10 (8:00 p.m.) and 25 (7:00 p.m.), and June 14 (3:00 p.m.)
The Faith Militant grow increasingly aggressive. Jaime (Nikolaj Coster-Waldau) and Bronn (Jerome Flynn) head south. Ellaria (Indira Varma) and the Sand Snakes vow vengeance.
Written by Dave Hill; directed by Mark Mylod.

Episode #45: “Kill the Boy”
Debut: SUNDAY, MAY 10 (9:00-10:00 p.m.)
Other HBO playdates: May 10 (11:30 p.m., 2:00 a.m.), 11 (10:45 p.m.), 12 (9:00 p.m., 3:20 a.m.), 13 (1:15 a.m.), 14 (10:00 p.m.), 15 (9:00 p.m.), 16 (12:15 a.m.) and 22 (8:00 p.m.)
HBO2 playdates: May 11 (9:00 p.m.), 15 (3:45 a.m.), 16 (12:45 p.m.), 17 (8:00 p.m.) and 25 (8:00 p.m.), and June 14 (4:00 p.m.)
Dany (Emilia Clarke) makes a difficult decision in Meereen. Jon (Kit Harington) recruits the help of an unexpected ally. Brienne (Gwendoline Christie) searches for Sansa (Sophie Turner). Theon (Alfie Allen) remains under Ramsay’s (Iwan Rheon) control.
Written by Bryan Cogman; directed by Jeremy Podeswa.

Episode #46: “Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken”
Debut: SUNDAY, MAY 17 (9:00-10:00 p.m.)
Other HBO playdates: May 17 (11:30 p.m., 2:00 a.m.), 18 (10:30 p.m.), 19 (9:00 p.m., 2:15 a.m.), 20 (1:15 a.m.), 21 (10:00 p.m.), 22 (9:00 p.m.) and 23 (10:15 p.m.)
HBO2 playdates: May 18 (9:00 p.m.), 22 (2:45 a.m.), 23 (3:00 p.m.), 24 (8:00 p.m.) and 25 (9:00 p.m.), and June 14 (5:00 p.m.)
Arya (Maisie Williams) trains. Jorah (Iain Glen) and Tyrion (Peter Dinklage) run into slavers. Trystane (Toby Sebastian) and Myrcella (Nell Tiger Free) make plans. Jaime and Bronn reach their destination. The Sand Snakes attack.
Written by Bryan Cogman; directed by Jeremy Podeswa.

Episode #47: “The Gift”
Debut: SUNDAY, MAY 24 (9:00-10:00 p.m.)
Other HBO playdates: May 24 (11:30 p.m., 2:00 a.m.), 25 (11:05 p.m.), 26 (9:00 p.m., 3:15 a.m.), 27 (12:45 a.m.), 28 (10:00 p.m.), 29 (8:00 p.m.) and 30 (11:00 p.m.), and June 5 (8:00 p.m.)
HBO2 playdates: May 25 (10:00 p.m.), 29 (3:20 a.m.), 30 (1:45 p.m.) and 31 (8:00 p.m.), and June 14 (6:00 p.m.)
Jon prepares for conflict. Sansa tries to talk to Theon. Brienne waits for a sign. Stannis (Stephen Dillane) remains stubborn. Jaime attempts to reconnect with family.
Written by David Benioff & D.B. Weiss; directed by Miguel Sapochnik.

Episode #48: “Hardhome”
Debut: SUNDAY, MAY 31 (9:00-10:00 p.m.)
Other HBO playdates: May 31 (11:30 p.m., 2:00 a.m.) and June 1 (11:35 p.m.), 2 (9:00 p.m., 2:45 a.m.), 3 (12:30 a.m.), 4 (10:00 p.m.), 5 (9:00 p.m.), 6 (12:45 a.m.) and 12 (8:00 p.m.)
HBO2 playdates: June 1 (9:00 p.m.), 5 (2:30 a.m.), 6 (4:45 p.m.), 7 (8:00 p.m.) and 14 (7:00 p.m.)
Arya makes progress in her training. Sansa confronts an old friend. Cersei (Lena Headey) struggles. Jon travels.
Written by David Benioff & D.B. Weiss; directed by Miguel Sapochnik.

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216 Comments

  1. What if the sign Brienne is waiting for is the burning of Stannis’ camp we’ve seen in the trailers?

  2. An old friend, I have no idea who that could be… The only thing I can imagine is Littlefinger or perhaps Brienne
  3. LET THE SPECULATION BEGIN! My thoughts:

    Dany (Emilia Clarke) makes a difficult decision in Meereen. Jon (Kit Harington) recruits the help of an unexpected ally. Brienne (Gwendoline Christie) searches for Sansa (Sophie Turner). Theon (Alfie Allen) remains under Ramsay’s (Iwan Rheon) control.

    Dany: probably about Hizdahr’s 30-days proposal. Jon: an unexpected ally? Aemon is not unexpected, so perhaps Tormund or Alliser? Brienne: Man, there’s a lot of Brienne this season (4 out of 5)! Theon: finally.

    Arya (Maisie Williams) trains. Jorah (Iain Glen) and Tyrion (Peter Dinklage) run into slavers. Trystane (Toby Sebastian) and Myrcella (Nell Tiger Free) make plans. Jaime and Bronn reach their destination. The Sand Snakes attack.

    Arya: not in episode 5? Tyrion: this places the Sorrows in episode 5 for sure. Dorne: not in episode 5 either.

    Jon prepares for conflict. Sansa tries to talk to Theon. Brienne waits for a sign. Stannis (Stephen Dillane) remains stubborn. Jaime attempts to reconnect with family.

    Not much to go on here.

    Arya makes progress in her training. Sansa confronts an old friend. Cersei (Lena Headey) struggles. Jon travels.

    Arya: Blind or new face? Sansa: An old friend? Who the hell could that be? Cersei: arrest. Jon: Hardhome.
  4. Hmm, it seems that there is no Griff this season. I thought it would be included in Episode 5 but i think Tyrion doesnt appear in Episode 5. Thats make me very sad because D&D will cut my favourite character from the books.. Or is there any hope ?

  5. So I’m guessing Hardhome is going to be the big battle in ep 9. I was thinking maybe the “Battle of Ice” would work its way into this season from “Winds”.

  6. Intelmaster:
    Hmm, it seems that there is no Griff this season. I thought it would be included in Episode 5 but i think Tyrion doesnt appear in Episode 5. Thats make me very sad because D&D will cut my favourite character from the books.. Or is there any hope ?

    In my opinion all of his storylines can be scrapped untill he lands in Westeros, it would also work better on TV in my opinion. If he isn’t there in season 6 then he’s ruled out forever, I wouldn’t do it at this point -yet-.
  7. davy,

    No, it says

    she tries to talk to him which suggests she may have difficulty and not succeed. He’s avoiding her in last night’s episode. In episode 8, she is confronting an “old friend” so yeah it could be an extension of her chasing down Theon. Not saying it’s guaranteed to be that, but it could well be.
  8. whit:
    So I’m guessing Hardhome is going to be the big battle in ep 9. I was thinking maybe the “Battle of Ice” would work its way into this season from “Winds”.

    Hardhome is in E8.

  9. The fact that Sansa “confronts” an old friend has me intrigued. Who could it be?

    Cackling at how painfully vague these synopses are, understandably so but still.

  10. Hoyti Von Totiy,

    Old Nan is dead, wise guy.

    Or someone like Pod. Not her friend exactly but these synopses are always a little stupid. Pod was more of a friend to her than Brienne, him being Tyrion’s squire and someone she knows better.

  11. I think Sansa tries to talk to Reek in 7 and actually talks to Theon in 8. If so, yay! Finally Theon starts to return.

    Intelmaster: but i think Tyrion doesnt appear in Episode 5.

    Didn’t Tyrion see a dragon flying overhead while he was on water, in the trailers? I think that could happen in Ep.5.

  12. Kay

    Yeah but Tyrion is not mentioned in the synopses, so it is really likely that he is not in ep. 5….

    Somewhere else i read something in episode 5 about tyrion… like: ” Tyrion meets the ghost of the past”

  13. Sue the Fury,

    How could it be him? They never had a scene together. Looking at in again, it might also be OLD friend, as in an elderly person. That would qualify the “north remembers” lady.

  14. Kay,

    Good point with regards to Reek/Theon. Also, the fact that this is ep 8 has me thinking it’s going to be the climax of Sansa’s/Theon’s plots. Expecting death tbh.

  15. Intelmaster,

    Something rather significant happens with the Stone Men before they meet the slavers, so I would guess that happens in episode 5.

  16. Intelmaster, even though Tyrion is not mentioned in 5, that’s not a guarantee that he won’t be in 5. At some point, he sees a dragon flying overhead. (I also believe he will pass by stone men, with the emphasis the show is putting on greyscale*). That could happen in either 5 or 6. So you may be right that happens in 6 plus running into slavers. Or in 5. No firm idea yet.

    *I read an awesome theory about greyscale and Aegon’s true purpose in the books. I hope it’s true!

  17. Uhh… “Theon (Alfie Allen) remains under Ramsay’s (Iwan Rheon) control.” and Alfie mentioning something horrible happening midway through the season doesn’t bode well… I swear to god if the writers go there >.<

  18. Sue the Fury:
    Hoyti Von Totiy,

    Old Nan is dead, wise guy.

    The character is not i belive, only the actress that played her ..? Right?

    Dutch maester:
    Sue the Fury,

    How could it be him? They never had a scene together. Looking at in again, it might also be OLD friend, as in an elderly person. That would qualify the “north remembers” lady.

    And to think people tought that there was a great northern conspiracy against the Boltons … D&D dispelled that notion when all that was left of Manderly/Dustin/Umber … is an old washerwoman saying “North remembers”
  19. Arkash:
    Hardhome… how unoriginal… there were dozens of more creative ideas for this one !

    The place with the wooden wall. Happy?

  20. LOL at 5×08’s description–“Jon travels”–given the

    crazy shit that is supposed to happen at Hardhome

    .

    Curious about the “Sansa confronts an old friend.”

    Unless the “old friend” is Theon, and Theon was never her friend, I have no idea whom this could be. It’s not like Brienne or Pod were ever her friends, either. “Confronts” suggests she has beef with the person in question. Littlefinger, maybe? If it were Littlefinger, though, he would probably be named as such.

    As for Theon “remaining under Ramsay’s control,” I’m guessing this references the

    horrifying, controversial midseason scene that Alfie Allen warned us about. Brace yourselves.
  21. I think the “old friend” is an old friend of her family: The Greatjon (Bryan Cogman confirmed he’s still alive in show canon). “The North Remembers”.

  22. Hoyti Von Totiy,

    It’s way too early to assume that the old washerwoman is the only one who will say those words. We’ve already gotten a taste of some other lords being pissed at the Boltons, Like Lyanna and the Cerwyns.

  23. I wonder who the unexpected ally will be? Crossing my fingers for Wun Wun.

  24. Can’t wait for Hardhome. White Walkers galore, maybe? No info on Samwell/Davos. I’d call them the two biggest question marks of the season, at this point. Hopefully D&D don’t change their stories to “do nothing at all”.

    *book spoilers*

    Aww. Chances of there being an episode called “A Ghost in Winterfell”, which I thought there could have been, are now pretty low. Basically episode 9 or it won’t happen. I know it doesn’t really matter lol.. I just wanted one episode since season 2 to be named after Theon’s story, is all 😛
  25. I’m thinking they may try and paint Myranda as an old friend of Sansas so as try to replicate her Vale storyline from the books more. Her friend in the Vale even shares the name!
    Worrying amount of Brienne and Sansa this season. Personally, they both bore me to tears but hopefully interesting stuff happens around them.

  26. Yeah! I said that “Hardhome” will be the name of the 8th Episode this season long before it was confirmed.

  27. Episode 4.06: “Jaime and Bronn reach their destination. The Sand Snakes attack.”
    Episode 4.07: “Jaime

    Uh oh…

  28. Grrrod:
    Grynthaline,

    I don’t believe they could translate the bedroom scene(s?) without toning it down some.I mean, just ew.

    I hope so, but based on the inteviews whatever “traumatic” scene is going to go down with Sansa this season Theon will be in the same room. Putting Sansa and Ramsay together just seems totally for shock and drama’s sake. I’m not discounting the worst so I won’t get unreasonably angry.

  29. King Stannis,

    How would that work? Roose know her. If she walked into Winterfell he’d be like “You’re that large woman that was with Jaime Fookin Lannister.”

  30. NYI,

    I think Bronn makes it past the initial confrontation as there was an apparent script leak of him talking with the Sand Snakes in a cell. Still think he’s gonna be lucky to get out of Dorne alive though.

  31. Pigeon,

    Looks like he’s got a couple of cool fight scenes this season at least. In episode 2 when I heard he wasn’t going to marry Lollys I think his fate has pretty much been sealed. They need to be careful as they’re killing off popular characters and most of the ones they are bringing in don’t have the same charisma and the viewers aren’t invested in them. Season 5 remains a worrying time!

  32. For those worried about X not appearing in an episode, or Y not doing something, or Z having a boring storyline… I point out that the title of episode 504 suggests a story whose characters and situations are not mentioned AT ALL in the synopsis. It’s placeholder text. It’s preview fodder, not a description of the actual story in the episode.

    And this is a long standing HBO tradition of being coy and very, very quiet on major developments. After all, Bran’s party finally meeting Sam and Gilly — the first time the series connected two of its three major storylines since the pilot — was described as “Bran tells a ghost story.”

    So relax. 🙂

  33. Oh I can’t wait for the Sansa/Theon scenes!! “Stannis remains stubborn.” also made me laugh. XD

  34. I feel pretty strongly that this “old friend” Sansa meets is just going to be Theon. All her interactions with him before that will be with Reek. Thus when he finally snaps back to himself, hello old friend.

  35. About that old friend, the only one I’m thinking about is The only “Friend” she ever have/had and it’s

    …THE HOUND !?

    It’s stupid but at this point they are not at their firsts changes so maybe… who knows.

  36. Sue the Fury,

    Or

    The Godswood!

    Using “old friend” as a metaphor for a familiar place is not exactly unknown in the plot synopses. I guess this could be her wedding episode.

  37. I liked the fake synopses (from a few weeks back) better…looking forward to things escalating. There is so much ahead….!

  38. I remember seeing a pic of Theon in Vale clothing, correct me if i’m wrong? Maybe he’s dressed to represent the Vale contingent for Sansa at the wedding and then will follow the traumatic scene whereby he witnesses Sansa’s…… This makes me sick, but it aligns itself with Alfie Allen referencing a huge event occurring half way through the season that Theon bears witness to. Sansa’s been somewhat lucky that she’s remained pure up til now but imo it’ll change this season.

    Oh dear. For someone who is very much invested in D&D’s version of the story, a scene like this would be hard to stomach.

  39. Im surprised by how little Cersei is mentioned in these episode summaries. This by all means should be her season to take center stage.
  40. Anyone else think that Tyrion is a targ, I mean I had a bunch of evidence leading to the theory but watching that red priestess stare at Tyrion really makes the theory stronger

  41. Sue the Fury,

    But then why would they be coy about putting it in the synopsis, not using Theon’s name, etc.?

    Maybe it’s

    Brynden Tully (the show could have them know each other), or Arya’s wolf Nymeria, or perhaps Brienne.
  42. Episode 7 synopsis: “Stannis remains stubborn.”

    Please file under “No sh8t Sherlock!”

  43. Hoyti Von Totiy,

    Don’t think there is a GNC, rather a variety of different agendas

    Old friend will be visiting one of her relatives in the Crypt which was in the trailers I reckon

  44. Grand maester giz:
    Anyone else think that Tyrion is a targ, I mean I had a bunch of evidence leading to the theory but watching that red priestess stare at Tyrion really makes the theory stronger

    It’s possible. I’ve seen the evidence and there are things that make you think. I subscribe to the Jaime/Cersie Secret Targ theory, myself. I also like that theory even more if it means Tyrion is the only true Lannister child, because it makes the irony of Tywin’s hatred for him super sweet. But again, your way can be argued for as well.

  45. Re: “old friend”

    That’s clearly Theon, I think. It’s a followup to the earlier episode’s attempt to talk to him. “Confront” is the key word there, given what Theon has supposedly done/actually done to the Starks.

    Incidentally, from the synopses it seems like Sansa will be in episodes 5 (not mentioned, but I’m doubtful there’ll be Winterfell scenes without her, given what a huge shakeup here presence is) and 7-8. If she’s in episodes 9-10, which seems likely, all things considered, that would be nine episodes, her highest tally since the first season.

  46. Im disappointed that Arya doesn’t seem to be in this season much at all. It sounds like she isn’t in episode 5, which means that she will miss two episodes in a row. I was hoping she would be in at least 7-8 episodes (her storyline has been great so far in my opinion)

  47. Grand maester giz:
    Anyone else think that Tyrion is a targ, I mean I had a bunch of evidence leading to the theory but watching that red priestess stare at Tyrion really makes the theory stronger

    I suspect the red priestess’ ominous stare at Tyrion had more to do with

    Tyrion cracking wise about greyscale, given that he’ll shortly be exposed to it

    .

  48. Grynthaline: I hope so, but based on the inteviews whatever “traumatic” scene is going to go down with Sansa this season Theon will be in the same room. Putting Sansa and Ramsay together just seems totally for shock and drama’s sake. I’m not discounting the worst so I won’t get unreasonably angry.

    And shocking it would be. Hope they really push the boundaries with it.

  49. Yeah those who are taking the wordings of the synopses to be encompassing of the entirety of the events that occur during an episode, should consider how maybe not a word of anything happening in King’s Landing is mentioned there for several episodes; when we know major developments will be taking place leading towards the latter episodes… In my opinion, it’s becoming ridiculous how people keep saying “OMG, so and so is not in this episode, why?”; solely based on the synopses.

  50. Walter Harrow,

    This has been stated by the show creators as a massive Cersei season, and shes barely in the episode synopses so I wouldn’t worry about it

  51. M: I suspect the red priestess’ ominous stare at Tyrion had more to do with

    .

    I read somewhere that the lady who played that part is a working actress. Is she possibly going to recur later in the series?

  52. Lyra,

    See I think Jaime and cersei aren’t . The biggest point for me that makes me think Tyrion is another secret targ. Jon snow -r + l = j is true than Jon snow , Tyrion lannister and danyerus targayrions mothers all died during child birth; and there all the 3 heads of the dragon prophecy completed also the whole tryrions
    Being fascinated in dragons in book one all sounds up to them three being the last targs, Tywin tells Tyrion he’s not his father in 3 diff episodes and says ” if I could prove your we’re not mine I would have took you to the waves and let the shore take you away . There’s show evidence and book evidence to my points Jaime and cersei are lannisters

  53. I knew they would eventually give Arya the “Bran treatment.” She seems to not appear in many episodes this season. Very disappointing.

  54. “Davos looks troubled. Tyrion makes a joke. Arya is annoyed. Dany is surprised that her actions have consequences…again. Sansa thinks ponies are pretty. Littlefinger has a thought. Cersei has a hangover. Rickon waits at the customer service department for someone to notice he’s gone. Melisandre looks smug, then spontaneously combusts. Jaqen speaks in the third person. Ghost takes a shit.”

  55. HelloThere:
    Walter Harrow,

    This has been stated by the show creators as a massive Cersei season, and shes barely in the episode synopses so I wouldn’t worry about it

    I was thinking that at first, but it mentions that ‘Arya trains’ in episode 6, so what would she do in episode 5 if she does appear? If she ‘trains’ in that episode, why say that she is going to do the same thing in the next episode?

  56. Grand maester giz,

    Oh, you don’t have to convince me. 😛 Like I said, I already know there are arguments for the Tyrion thing. At this point, either theory is just as good. And either one can be argued against just as easily too. That’s one of the great things about what GRRM has done here, he’s woven so many different little riddles into his books that it’s just fun to speculate about the possibilities. I’m not going to ramble off evidence, because it’s all over the internet, and much more well written and put together than what I would write here, but one reason I prefer Jaime being a Targ is simply because he’s my favorite character, and I think, endgame-wise, the three heads of the dragon are going to be the “winners” when all is said and done, so I’d prefer Jaime to be one of those. If it’s Tyrion, that’s cool too. But I mean, as long as I have room to imagine it the way I want, I will, until the books come out and the truth gets set in stone. And there’s nothing wrong with you being in Tyrion’s boat until then too. 🙂

  57. Walter Harrow,

    What would you expect her to do? Arya was never going to appear in more than 6 episodes this season, and I don’t know how anyone would have expected more. I loved her scene where she threw away her things and kept Needle, but the rest is not really thrilling or dramatic tv. I don’t want to see anymore scenes with her sweeping the floor, that’s for sure.

  58. Sansa’s old friend is The North Remembers Lady

    Dustin.

    When Roose learns Stannis has left the Wall & is marching on Winterfell, he proceeds with Ramsay’s shotgun wedding & invites the fucking Freys. Lady Dustin insists on taking custody of Sansa until the wedding. Theon sits beside her at the wedding feast in his fancy clothes. Lady Dustin fails to see through Sansa’s courtesy armor during the feast. She is offended by Sansa’s apparent capitulation despite her brother & mother dying at the Red Wedding & dismisses her to Theon as craven to the bone.

    Lady Dustin has Sansa lead her into the crypts of Winterfell, where she explains she is Roose’s sister-in-law from his previous marriage & TOJ. Before leaving the crypts, they discover swords are missing from the tombs.

    While she appears to be loyal to the Boltons, Lady Dustin bears a grudge against the Freys due to the fact that several of her own men were killed at the Red Wedding. She helps Sansa & Theon escape the castle.

  59. Rygritte,

    That’s not Lady Dustin, that’s a serving woman. She was cast as such, and moreover, how would that ever qualify as an “old friend”?
  60. Walter Harrow,

    Because she is isolated from the rest of the story. Sansa and Brienne have been folded into the Winterfell storyline with Theon/Boltons.

  61. Walter Harrow,

    Exactly. I don’t think she’ll appear much and that really sucks.

    Tyrion Pimpslap,

    How hard is it for them to shorten her training and add some things here and there? Or just commence her plot on their own? They’re able to do it with others.

  62. Chriss,

    Her name is Rila Fukushima (sp?).

    She’s Katana on Arrow (Maseo’s wife) and she was the girl Logan didn’t hook up with in The Wolverine.

    In other words, she’s got a decent resume, so I would totally expect her to have more than a one off role, maybe a female Moqorrroesque type.

  63. William,

    I imagine it has to do with Jon Connington bringing the disease to Westeros, and it spreading and becoming an epidemic.
  64. days:
    Walter Harrow,

    Exactly. I don’t think she’ll appear much and that really sucks.

    Tyrion Pimpslap,

    How hard is it for them to shorten her training and add some things here and there? Or just commence her plot on their own? They’re able to do it with others.

    That’s my point. I don’t think its fair that they have no problem adding things to other character storylines but not Arya.

  65. days:
    I knew they would eventually give Arya the “Bran treatment.” She seems to not appear in many episodes this season. Very disappointing.

    How about you wait until the season is over. Not everyone makes it into the sypnosys and can still be seen in that episode.

    I know everyone wants a piece of their favorite characters but they can only do so much in an hour long episode.
    I’m glad those pathetic Greyjoys are cut this season and not slowling my time and money.

  66. Cersei’s Brain,

    Episode 80085; “The Night Watchers of the Titan’s Storm of Swords in the Darkness Before the Light of Rhollor’s Elbow to the Dragon’s Wedding Dance of the Seven Vales in Winter of Our Discount Tent (part 1a.7h)”

  67. Remember that casting call that said

    they wanted someone to play an old servingwoman who is Brienne’s only ally in ‘dangerous territory’?

    I wonder if that was actually to be SANSA’s only ally, and they didn’t want to give away she’d be going somewhere dangerous, so they said Brienne in the call instead.

    Or maybe Brienne hangs out with the North Remembers lady if/when she gets to Winterfell (and hides from Roose somehow)

  68. Yeah, um, as others have already said, it doesn’t make a lot of sense to think that just because one character or another is not mentioned in a particular synopsis, that character won’t appear. I think Pigeon put it best, though:

    Pigeon:
    “Davos looks troubled. Tyrion makes a joke. Arya is annoyed. Dany is surprised that her actions have consequences…again. Sansa thinks ponies are pretty. Littlefinger has a thought. Cersei has a hangover. Rickon waits at the customer service department for someone to notice he’s gone. Melisandre looks smug, then spontaneously combusts. Jaqen speaks in the third person. Ghost takes a shit.”

    Grand maester giz,

    I think the secret Targ theory is possible, but I don’t think that’s why the Red Priestess in Volantis gave Tyrion that look. I think it’s because she saw him in her fires, and given she’d been talking about Dany, she probably saw him in her fires with Dany. It wouldn’t surprise me in the least, though if

    Tyrion ends up being one of the dragon riders. He has more knowledge of dragons than anyone in Westeros (outside possibly some Maesters), the whole thing about the saddle for Bran, and the fact even if he isn’t a Targ. by The Mad King schtupping Joanna, the Lannisters have Targ blood in them from previous generations, if I remember correctly.
  69. I saw some Three Heads of the Dragon talk in here. I feel like pretty much everyone is on board with Dany and Jon being the first two, then you can start arguing about Tyrion, Jaime, Aegon, Stannis, et al. after that.

    I just strikes me that all of those people in contention for the third head, in my opinion anyway, are so much more interesting than the first two. I mean, I like Jon well enough, so I guess I’m okay with him, but I wish somehow, someway, Dany wasn’t one. Even though she’s pretty much the given one out of the whole bunch who basically has to be one. She’s just soooo bad. And I mean, I get it, she has to fail, and stumble through things, so she can learn to be better by the end of the series, and show some growth and all that, but damnit, I just don’t like her. I’ve already resigned myself to the idea that she’ll probably be the ruler of everything at the end, so I’ll just have to learn to like her. Her and Jon and probably the most important characters in the whole series as far as big picture things go, with the whole Ice and Fire thing. But a man can still dream for a GRRM twist. Do it, George. Let Dany get eaten by Drogon.

  70. Jezal Dan Luthar,

    I really think there will only be two dragon riders, with Bran controlling one of the dragons via warging. Unless there really is an Ice/Shadow Dragon that has yet to be revealed.

  71. Grand maester giz:
    Anyone else think that Tyrion is a targ, I mean I had a bunch of evidence leading to the theory but watching that red priestess stare at Tyrion really makes the theory stronger

    I am in the Tyrion-is-a-Targ camp. 🙂 Hoping for some Tyrion-Rhaegal or Viserion moment later this season. Did you notice that the look the Volanteen Red Priestess gave Tyrion was very similar to the looks Red Velvet gave Jon last season? One was talking about Daenerys, the other was fixated on Stannis, then each sees another character, and suddenly it’s like: oh s***, I’ve seen this person in the fire too! So a checkmark for both Jon and Tyrion, I think. Good symmetry.

    William:
    Kay,

    what theory is that?

    The theory Tyrion Pimpslap noted earlier; that the entire purpose of fAegon is not himself or his identity, but that his companion will bring greyscale to Westeros, causing extra devastation on top of Winter coming. The way Season 5 has been bigging up greyscale, it seems that theory has some merit. And what a magnificent bit of trolling by Martin that would be if this is true. 🙂

    Jezal Dan Luthar: but I wish somehow, someway, Dany wasn’t one.

    So, so sad for you!

  72. Tyrion Pimpslap,

    Oooooh, that’s an interesting idea too. Hadn’t thought of that. Bran’s story is pretty intriguing to me as well, it’s a shame he’s sort on the backburner at the moment.

  73. Goobber,

    Probably safe to say he’s cut. And that stinks. Means no JonCon either, argh.

    No, we should be thankful the show is cutting crappy characters and plotlines like this. Linking up Tyrion and Dany is far better.

  74. Whatever happens in the controversial scene it will most likely happen to Myranda and Sansa will witness it. With that said it was confirmed on a spoiler site that

    Sansa will lose her virginity this season. It is highly unlikely that she will be raped but even just her losing her virginity to Ramsay will be enough to make people flip out.
  75. I wouldn’t put too much stock into Tywin’s comments about Tyrion not being his son, since he said the same thing to Jaime when Jaime refused to resign from the Kingsguard after Joffrey’s death. I also don’t remember ever reading that to be one of the dragon heads, your mother had to have died giving birth to you. What passage is that from?
    And while Jon is certainly well-aligned with ice, I always saw Dany as fire and Bran as ice, with Jon being the combination of the two (assuming that R+L=J). If Quaithe actually is Shiera Seastar, than it would be an interesting parallel between her mentoring of Dany and Bloodraven’s mentoring of Bran. It would also make it very ironic that, in the books, Bran has red hair (fire) and Dany has white hair (ice), almost as opposites of their own personalities, which I feel is just the sort of pointless unintentional irony that makes reading these books that much more fun 🙂 This is all just speculation, of course, but it’s still interesting to think about.

  76. Sansa does have a friend. Jeyne Poole was introduced in the very first episode 101 Winter is Coming : Sansa is talking to her while they’re having a big feast for Robert’s arrival at Winterfell. In the commentary track D&D spot her out.

    Not saying this is who she confronts. But in the show world, she does exist. Though not hoping for that orgy thing either. Ewww!

  77. Stannis remains stubborn (is this a reveal!?): I’m guessing he pushes south despite the awful weather. Battle of Ice / Winterfell this season or next or never?

    For all that is holy bring back Asha (Yara)! She needs to reunite with Theon after he rescues Sansa and gets captured by Stannis. I’m hoping she is behind the raid on his camp.

    Sansa confronts “old friend” Miranda? Recall her friend in TWOW sample chapter, perhaps they knew each other as noble children of the north?

    Jon’s unlikely ally: Tormund.

  78. Am I the only one certain that

    Maester Aemon dies before Sam’s sent to the Citadel?

    By the way, first time commenting. been following the site for a while now. I’m Sullied, so now I can’t help myself to comment on the show after all the changes they are making.

    cheers

  79. Valfa Svlim,

    Welcome to the Wall!

    Yes, I think

    Aemon will die at the Wall, not on the way to Oldtown. I seem to remember several other people thinking the same, too. I am really dreading that moment. It broke my heart in the books, and it may hit me even harder on the show. It’s kind of funny, too, since his is the most natural death of the many, many, many deaths in both the books and the show. If they work in the line, “Egg, I dreamed that I was old,” the tears I expect to be streaming down my face will turn into sobs.
  80. ctid,

    I just don’t know why they would pass up his encounter with Arya and trip with Aemon if they were still going to do that. With only 32 episodes left, I don’t see them sending a secondary character off on his own journey.
  81. Tyrion Pimpslap,

    There are lots of parts of Sam’s trip that are not in the show:

    No Mance baby therefore no swap. However, assuming Aemon dies at the wall this season which looks likely as he’s already sick, I can still see Sam (with Gilly and baby in tow) being sent to Oldtown to train up as a Maester. I just see it as being a much more streamlined trip maybe taking place over the season break. I’m guessing that he’ll be used as an intro for Oldtown in season six and to show Jon’s isolation for the eventual ides.

  82. Colty,

    It is a perv nudity website that posts details about upcoming nude scenes in movies and TV shows called recapped.com. This is what it posted in February

    We’re going to start posting some Game of Thrones season five rumors with each of our columns. First, you may have seen the bath scene from Sansa (Sophie Turner) in the trailer. What you don’t know is that bath is right before Sansa’s wedding. And unlike the last time, Sansa will lose her virginity. Of course, it’s highly doubtful any skin will be shown.

  83. Sansa’s friend,

    James Hibberd always has inside information due to his connections with the show-

    That said, just because the writers are mining another character’s storylline for Sansa, it doesn’t mean what happens next on HBO’s series will be the same as it was for that other character in the books.

    I think this is his way of subtly telling fans to settle down because her storyline will not go the same route Jeyne’s did.

  84. Considering that in the last year synopses they called the White Walker an “elderly gentleman”, Sansa´s friend can be anyone she met before. Theon, Lady North Remembers, even Brienne.

    I hope Sansa´s wedding night is that controversial scene, that should provide a lot of fun in after episode discussions. Same can be said if Bronn will just die in prison being poisoned by Tyene ( instead of some badass fight with Areo Hotah as many speculated).

  85. Episode 8 could be only journey to Hardhome+some meeting with widlings elders and Sam will probably leave for Braavos imo.Episode 9 could feature both Hardhome main battle and Daznak’s.Unexpected ally is Tormund without a doubt.”For The Watch” will happen either at Hardhome,this season and it would be rushed or next season which makes most sense.
    It’s interesting,because if stabbing will happen in Hardhome for example then who will help Jon in this case since Mel will be most likely with Stannis/Davos.
    That old friend is most likely Theon.Titles for the last two episodes could be Daznak’s and Winter.
  86. Bard,

    There wil be a wedding Sansa-Ramsay to secure the North. So it is quite expectable, that the Boltons will invite the Lords of the North to promote this new development…

    Might easily be, that we’ll see the Greatjon and Sansa asks for help for her revenge, or she’s giving him a bad time for not protecting her brother and drinking at the wedding of his murderer’ Son.

  87. SD,

    I would like to as you about Jon and Stannis and their arcs/scenes(any interesting there)obviously if it’s a legit info….but there is a strict police no spoilers for future episodes or you can face consequences.Reddit is a good place for such a conversation.

  88. Could the old friend Sansa meets be Jeyne? Just thinking about the girl cast as “Winterfell worker”.

  89. I don’t take Myranda for anyone other than herself. She isn’t JP doing all she needs to do to survive.
    Clearly, Ramsey must let her go, due to his betrothal. She’s served him well and been party to Theon’s conversion to Reek. Perhaps everything follows a path that must seem obvious for Ramsey to tie-up this, now, loose-end.
    Does that sound a more likely idea of whatever this ‘super-traumatic’ scene could be?

    Down in the crypts – Would it surprise Sansa to discover someone’s been tending to things down there? The North Remembers, as we’ve heard before and in the latest episode. It’s like leaving a message without it being obvious.

    It’d be great to discover Ned didn’t actually kill Lady. Not that it’s likely to happen. There is the thing about Nymeria though, which I do like as an idea.
    I’m not sure this is what’s meant by ‘old friend’. I don’t think it’d be Theon either. As Jeyne isn’t in the show, she’s out of the running. Pod does seem to be an unlikely candidate to be classed as ‘old friend’ but, it could work that way.

  90. btw season 1 dvd sales are huge
    Game of Thrones: The Complete First Season
    units this wk 76,875
    total units 2,424,718
    total amount this wk$3,513,194
    total amount.$101,690,537
    162Buy

  91. SD,

    Also, I would stop mentioning Thor, it could get him in trouble 🙂

    Back on the topic, I finally got one episode title right: Hardhome. I’m really surprised they used it.

  92. SD,

    Do

    Tyrion and Jorah have a run-in with the stone men on their boat trip? And if yes how is the scene?
  93. I’m deleting “SD”‘s posts because there is nothing legit here; SD has the same IP and email as someone banned before for trolling with multiple screennames. And yes they are definitely lying.

  94. Walter Harrow:
    Im disappointed that Arya doesn’t seem to be in this season much at all. It sounds like she isn’t in episode 5, which means that she will miss two episodes in a row. I was hoping she would be in at least 7-8 episodes (her storyline has been great so far in my opinion)

    She’s had 4 scenes so far and 3 of those were quite long so I think we are about par for 1 hours worth in the season.

  95. Sue the Fury,

    How would you know ? For example this is my milionth account that i could make because this site has so piss poor security that anyone can get a VPN and make as many accounts as possible. You trying to make the moderator on this site is as funny and useless like nipples on a breastplate stretcher .

  96. For those saying that Arya probably isnt in this season much because she is ‘isolated’ from the rest, why couldnt they just expand on her encounter with

    Sam?

    It doesnt even look like that is included which means that they are actually taking away stuff from her story. Like someone else said, Sansa probably would have been isolated from the rest this season but they had no problem throwing her into someone else story just to give her more screentime. Why not do the same for Arya?

    There is plenty they could do with her this season but they dont seem interested in doing it.

    (cat of the canals, killing nights watch deserter, poisoning old man with coin, going blind, changing faces etc)

    She is one of the few characters will a decent amount of content left in the books that they could use, yet they seem to be streamlining her story and expanding on others who hardly have content in the books. If they are including TWOW stuff for Sansa, Tyrion etc why not do the same for Arya?

  97. About Sam’s journey.

    It makes sense to me that it will happen because Sam needs to be gone by The Ides or he would end up dead, but later than in the books. We have already been alerted to maester Aemon’s failing health, Sam telling Gilly they will stick together (but not in the same room!) I think maester Aemon will die at Castle Black and Sam will be sent to Oldtown by Jon for several reasons – if they survive the winter they will be needing a new maester; he is not exactly the best fit fighting machine; he is Jon’s friend and he wants to protect him without seeming soft so he gives him a serious task; Gilly and her baby can be safe in Oldtown but people think she will be at Horn Hill so no scandal at the Wall.

    Whether they arrive in Braavos this season I don’t know, it depends how far down the Arya storyline we are. News from Sam of Jon being the Lord Commander will reacquaint her with being a Stark and prompt her to take back Needle and be (Faceless) Arya again. It is too good a scene to miss, but will probably be next season.

  98. I hope we get some info on Myranda’s background this season given she is in 3 more episodes and only highborn and wildlings have archery skills. It’s interesting that Ser Alliser was named First Ranger but

    he hasn’t been spotted in any of the leaked or released footage of Hardhome.
  99. tyrion1013,

    Inconveniencing trolls like you is helpful though, isn’t it? 🙂

    And yeah, we can tell easily that SD aka House Olivegarden aka JD is a troll because he’s a chronic offender who uses the same email address. Pulled it at WiC too, so it’s obviously the same person.

    Plus their basic story is obviously bullshit. Thor doesn’t get to see all those episodes before the general public. The cast members only see scenes during their ADR sessions, or at premieres but that’s it. I’m surprised anyone bought this spoiler troll to begin with.

  100. Rygritte:
    I hope we get some info on Myranda’s background this season given she is in 3 more episodes and only highborn and wildlings have archery skills. It’s interesting that Ser Alliser was named First Ranger but

    Anguy of the BWB was a commoner too.

  101. sansas old friends? Theon, which would be an obvious assumption. Or could it be pod? Of its not either one of them I assume maybe they are talking about the crypts or the wiertree

  102. I think the “sound heard round the world” will be on Sunday night – episode 5. I love to read people writing “if that happens I will (fill in the blank). Did the book readers stop reading just because something totally awful and unexpected happened???

    While Sansa is a beloved character…the ACTOR would love a chance to sink their teeth into such a hard scene and I think D & D LOVE the shock value. Also the guy who plays Ramsay said that he had to do “something” mid season that was even hard for him to do. Alfie made the warning as did Sansa and Davos.

    I expect we are going to see something fairly graphic and ugly. I am prepared for Sansa to lose her virginity but not in an awful way. I think I will be prepared with hands in front of my eyeballs.

    Also I do understand the theory, that is most likely correct, about Jon Snow’s lineage. But I don’t get Tyrion at all. I read all the books and never had a clue one about Tyrion. Cersie talks about when he was just born that she was really cruel to him. How did an infant get to Casterley Rock?? I am not sold at all on Tyrion being a Targ.

    *rubs hands together* We have some great stuff coming up. I don’t think that D & D are going to disappoint. Maybe really piss some people off…but that is the Game of Thrones we know and love.

    HEY – Tyrion1013? What the hell crawled up your backside? Go away please and be rude elsewhere. That post was uncalled for!!

  103. Nothing terrible will happen TO Sansa. It will include her, but not be directed at her.

    Hells, she’ll probably end up being Ramsay’s right – hand girl.

    Poor Theon. Never thought I’d say THAT! Getting the feels from him this season.

  104. Nymeria Warrior Queen,

    Lannisters do not have Targ bood according the world book.
    I wonder how they would forshadow and explain Tyrion Targ in the show. There has not not been many hints even tough I noticed Tywin saying I can not prove you are not mine even when I was show watcher only. Maybe Tyrion and Jorah talk about dragons soon.

  105. gosh….the ratings decline continues…
    if its still there 3 eps from now then I guess a budget cut is in order.

  106. dob:
    gosh….the ratings decline continues…
    if its still there 3 eps from now then I guess a budget cut is in order.

    Do ratings really matter that much to HBO? Game of Thrones is still the biggest show on the planet and they make a lot of money from DVD/Blu Rays sales and other merchandise so I don’t think low ratings (which these arent tbh) are a problem

  107. dob,

    That would never happen. Clearly the consolidated viewing total is the most important, as of yet we don’t have that info. And evidently the leaks played a part in the decline. It’ll rise again come episode 5.

  108. dob,

    There are lots of things to consider, the leaks could be why the ratings keep on going down or maybe the fact that HBO NOW is available to (almost) everyone in the US. We’ll just have to wait 2 more weeks and see the ratings for episode 5.
    And no, ratings hardly matter for HBO now, GoT is a monster, they already probably make enough money to turn a profit from merchandise alone.

  109. Balerion The Cat:
    dob,

    There are lots of things to consider, the leaks could be why the ratings keep on going down or maybe the fact that HBO NOW is available to (almost) everyone in the US. We’ll just have to wait 2 more weeks and see the ratings for episode 5.
    And no, ratings hardly matter for HBO now, GoT is a monster, they already probably make enough money to turn a profit from merchandise alone.

    yess you clearly receive game of thrones earning reports.

  110. Grand maester giz:
    Anyone else think that Tyrion is a targ, I mean I had a bunch of evidence leading to the theory but watching that red priestess stare at Tyrion really makes the theory stronger

    I have always believed he is Targaryen. Since Book 1 when he is reading about Dragons. He is definitely the mind of Azor Ahai. Dany is the spirit. Jon is the body.
  111. skagosi:
    Hoyti Von Totiy,

    could it be that Myranda(Ramsay’s gf) is actually Jeyne Poole doing what she needs to survive?

    No way, Myranda is truly a sadistic bi*ch. The look she gave Sansa is not the look of someone who is glad they dont have to hang out with Ramsey …

  112. A lot of speculation as to what might happen with Margaery since the marriage has been consummated, and Cersei can’t hook her with that as in the books. There was that scene in 4×01 where Margaery was in Loras’ room with Olyvar. There’s also a scene where Loras appears to attack Olyvar from the trailer. What if Olyvar lies and says that Margaery had a threesome with Loras and Olyvar at that time? You’ve got your adultery and incest accusations right there, a la Anne Boleyn. The “proof” of adultery and incest would be Olyvar’s testimony as to this incident, and there would be no one who could deny that Margaery was in Loras’ room during that time.

    If Olyvar lies about a Margaery/Loras/Olyvar threesome, that could explain why Loras seems to attack Olyvar. It would be one thing if Olyvar gave testimony as to their affair, since it did happen, and another thing altogether if Olyvar lied about Margaery to incriminate her.

  113. Haha. Maybe Sansa will meet the Hound.

    Seriously though, if it’s not Theon then it could be Nymeria outside Winterfell.

  114. Pigeon:
    “Davos looks troubled. Tyrion makes a joke. Arya is annoyed. Dany is surprised that her actions have consequences…again. Sansa thinks ponies are pretty. Littlefinger has a thought. Cersei has a hangover. Rickon waits at the customer service department for someone to notice he’s gone. Melisandre looks smug, then spontaneously combusts. Jaqen speaks in the third person. Ghost takes a shit.”

    hahahahaha…..”…Varys picks it up.”

  115. JCDavis,

    That’s because the theory goes that Tyrion was born from Joanna Lannister. So he would already be in Casterly Rock. Tywin isn’t the father, though. It makes sense to me as there have been plenty of hints, especially in the first book. It’s always worth noting that this saga was originally planned as a trilogy. The first book holds a tremendous amount of clues as to how the series is going to end. The middle books have stretched it out, conflated some theories, and silenced some others as to not give them away entirely. I’m not confident that Tyrion is a Targaryen, but it is absolutely possible.

  116. Please let Sansas old friend be the blackfish.. PLEEEEEASE. He just swims up into the well, casually climbs out, punches the corpse of Rickard Karstark (somehow), grabs sansa, dives back in the well. Job done.

  117. Shock Me:
    ZappaCreed,

    I’d love if it was Podrick taking up the scenes meant for Mance.

    Do you think Mance’s Winterfell arc will be played out? I don’t see it happening, not even transferred to anyone’s least favourite character. Definitely not to whoever happens to be topping anybody’s list. The whole dynamic has changed now. It’s a different set of pieces on the board.

  118. Brotherhood without Banter:
    Please let Sansas old friend be the blackfish..

    Blackfish is Sansa’s Great-Uncle (Catelyn’s Uncle = G-U). I spotted someone mentioning Edmure. He’s Sansa’s Uncle. Neither can be classed as ‘old friend’.

    I had wondered if Ned had gone ahead with what he said he’d do….. A good scene would be Sansa kneeling, at Lady’s tomb, and then for Nymeria to appear. Somehow, I feel Sansa would know. Maybe she’d wonder if Arya was close by (as she probably would).
    A pack, like the one running with Nymeria in the books, would be out of the question, for budget reasons. So, the show could adopt a different tack, and remind everyone that Nymeria is still out there.
    Considering Shaggydog and Summer aren’t around this season, other than Ghost, Nymeria is the only direwolf still around, somewhere. Back in S01, in fact, was when Arya chased Nymeria away.
    The other opportunity here is to have Sansa re-connect to a direwolf. Maybe take it as far as ‘fledgling warg’ ability coming back to Sansa. All the Stark kids are wargs. It’s just that Bran’s the most advanced, and whose journey into the ability we’ve seen.

  119. Lauren:
    So there won’t be a break for Memorial Day weekend this year? That’s a change.

    Amazing change! The best way to watch a show like game of thrones is binge style but you would have to have the patience of a monk. The extra week break is just torture and serves no purpose besides HBO making extra money. Kudos to the exec that made the decision to nix the week off, whoever you are you deserve a promotion! I work in the swimming pool and hardscape businesse and Memorial Day is brutal for people like me and HBO rewards us with no GoT, that’s like telling an accountant he can’t watch on April 15th. They probably just made a mistake listing the dates on the synopsis.

  120. I prefer when they drag it out a bit by missing a week or two…..honestly, I wait so long for the season to start, and poof it’s gone.

  121. Lyra,

    The World of Ice and Fire states Tywin and Johanna were at Casterly Rock for more than half a year when the twins were conceived… BUT… Johanna WAS in Kings Landing during the time of Tyrions conception. Followed by Tywin leaving the capital in, what some would call, a state of anger. This is cannon and not a tin foil hat conspiracy. The World of Ice and Fire makes it really clear that the only Lannister that could possibly be a Targaryen is Tyrion. The book actually poured gas all over the Tyrion Targ theory while smashing the Dragon Twins Theory to pieces.

  122. LordFleaBottom,

    I think people are just tired of all the secret Targs. I know I am.

    The only one I accept is Jon. I’m still pissed at the whole Aegon twist, and refuse to acknowledge that he isn’t a fake.
  123. Tyrion Pimpslap,

    I am too, that’s why I wanted to point out that the Jaime/Cersei are secret Targ theory has been debunked by a canonical source and we should stop throwing it out there.

  124. LordFleaBottom,

    Not to debunk what you’re saying, as I’m not big on “everyone and their mother could be a secret Targ,” but wasn’t there something about how some of the information in AWOIAF is incorrect? Something about it being part of the device of using the perspective of Maesters, so they didn’t know everything, and could have made some of the things up?

    I could absolutely be wrong, but I swear I remember something about that.

  125. Re: Sansa’s “old friend”
    My first thought was Theon, but all the talk of the visit to the crypts has me excited to see what the eff she is doing down there. Since we are into WoW territory, Sansa could make a discovery down there of which none of us are aware. Perhaps something involving Lyanna’s niche? Wild speculation, I know.

  126. I don’t think liking or reading books on dragons is enough of a hint that one is a secret Targ that could apply to many people, besides if you don’t spend your spare time reading and dreaming of dragons (Jon) doesn’t that imply the opposite? Even Dany doesn’t seem all that interested in Dragon history and lore, and she actually has Dragons.

    I’m against the Tyrion is a secret Targ for so many reasons.

    We know that Tywin loved and continued to love and revere his wife, so if Tywin knows Tyrion isn’t his then, some sort of secret affair between the Aerys and Joanna seems out of the questions. Would a man like Tywin continue to revere and love a wife who betrayed him? If sex happened (rape or consensual) then why keep the pregnancy/baby? There are several mentions of various teas or potions in the books, the knowledge seemed wide spread (Lysa for one). Why wouldn’t Joanna eliminate any chance of having another man’s baby, especially if it was a rape and Tywin knows.

    I also like the harsh reality that Tywin hated and wanted to distance himself from Tyrion, not because he isn’t his real son, but because of his dwarfism (and to some extent his birth killing Joanna). Giving Tywin another excuse and one people could possibly sympathize with or at the very least understand I find reprehensible. The Dwarfism is enough of a reason for Tywin to say and mean those statements – would he have treated Tyrion differently if he really was his son?

    It also diminishes his entire relationships with his family and his culpability and connections to them – oh, Tywin wasn’t my real father, so I guess it was okay that I killed him. I’m not saying that Tywin didn’t get what he deserved, but that Tyrion’s feeling about what he did are diminished and more easily dismissed and/or forgivable.

    It also gives Tyrion even more of an excuse to distance himself and choose a side based on lineage, rather than choice. oh, I’m really a Targ, that explains so much – now I don’t have to care as much about Jamie or my niece and nephew. I find it all a coup-out on Tyrion’s entire journey.

    The Aegon is a ‘SECRET Targ’ is actually more plausible, either way you look at it. Even if he is really a Blackfyre, or part of a Blackfyre plot, that would be even more interesting considering how much info there is on how that branch of the Targaryen family tree feels about what is owed them and how long such scheming and planning it would be in the making – a nice tie-in to his other short stories on the Targs. Either way I’m fine with it because it is just another wrinkle, not a major plot or character. Tyrion is a major character, as is Jon, and if there is a ‘SECRET BIRTH Targ’, then please let’s only have 1 revel (either Tyrion or Jon, not both) It’s just too much contrived convenience – the dragon needs 3 Targ heads, so wow there just happens to be 2 secret love childs – how easy was that!

    Wow this went longer than I thought, sorry.
    Doesn’t mean it won’t happen, but I really hope it doesn’t.

  127. Ashara D:
    Re: Sansa’s “old friend”
    My first thought was Theon, but all the talk of the visit to the crypts has me excited to see what the eff she is doing down there. Since we are into WoW territory, Sansa could make a discovery down there of which none of us are aware. Perhaps something involving Lyanna’s niche? Wild speculation, I know.

    She will discover that he old washerwoman is actually her aunt Lyanna Stark who´s been living in the crypts by day and cleaning the stables at night.

    #itisknown

  128. Sean C.: that’s a serving woman. She was cast as such, and moreover, how would that ever qualify as an “old friend”?

    Ramsey was cast as boy. She is old and clearly Team Stark.

  129. Sue the Fury,

    I am going to throw it out there

    Sansa’s Old Friend…

    Queen of Thorns. What if she replaces Wyman Manderley? But i guess that episode could be the Wedding, Iwan Rheon gave up some detail in a recent interview, Thronecast in the UK, that we would see the wedding this season. She could be a guest. But it is probably Theon, rather than the Reek persona she will have previously met.
  130. Rygritte: Ramsey was cast as boy. She is old and clearly Team Stark.

    – Dany has her dragons
    – Dany has Ser Friendzone
    – Arya has a guild of faceless superkillers
    – Margarey has her puzzi (and im not talking Ser Pounce here…)

    And Sansa has an old washerwoman. 🙂

    Yep things are starting to look good for old Sansa.

    #totally

  131. Courtjezter,

    I love your suggestion…

    …that Olenna might be Sansa’s “old friend.” She has/had an alliance with Littlefinger. She doesn’t quite fit into Manderly’s role; perhaps something more in line with Lady Dustin. However, if I had to bet, I agree that it will be Theon rather than Reek.
  132. I think Sansa’s old friend is the washerwoman/servant from last episode. In that she is a (new) friend, and she is old. Exactly the sort of tricky wordplay they love to use in these descriptions.

  133. I don’t think Sansa ever talks to or thinks about Theon in

    the books or

    the show. I can’t wait until she confronts her old friend Nymeria on the where the hell she’s been.

  134. Are the dates for those episodes right? Normally they skip showing episodes on memorial weekend, which is when it says the 8th episode airs and I previously read they were doing that again.

  135. Courtjezter,

    Sorry guys, it would make the northern storyline even more ridiculous if Olenna turns up at Winterfell. She has no business up there whatsoever. She’ll return this season but to deal with events in KL. If she end up in the north then the show will have officially gone to shit. I get that people want to see more of characters they like but lets not smash the story into pieces to do so.

  136. Intelmaster:
    Hmm, it seems that there is no Griff this season. I thought it would be included in Episode 5 but i think Tyrion doesnt appear in Episode 5. Thats make me very sad because D&D will cut my favourite character from the books.. Or is there any hope ?

    Intelmaster,

    Are you retarded? It was known by everyone and officially announced by D&D that GRIFF is cut.

    But you are trolling …..

  137. Annie Wilkes: She will discover that he old washerwoman is actually her aunt Lyanna Stark who´s been living in the crypts by day and cleaning the stables at night.

    #itisknown

    The fuck? lol Lyanna is not that old.

  138. Jon’s unexpected ally could be Alliser.

    He could support Jon in giving the wildlings The Gift and going to Hardhome hoping it will be his demise.
  139. King Stannis: The fuck? lol Lyanna is not that old.

    Women age diffrently after they hit 25 … look at Natalie Portman who looks 40 and then compare to Tina Turner who at 50 looked like shes 30 years old.

    Lyanna didn´t age well.

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