Finn Jones teases that Loras is “in a very tricky situation” next season, Maisie Williams applauds stunt doubles and Funko reveals new GoT figures

LorasTyrell Finn Jones paints a bleak picture of Loras’ situation in season 6 to Entertainment Weekly, Maisie Williams praises her stunt double and Funko reveals new Game of Thrones merchandise lines.

Finn Jones spoke to Entertainment Weekly about season 6, which he promises “will be the most epic season so far.” He says that the plot will focus on characters adapting to survive the changes they faced in season 5.

“We’re taking risks and telling stories that are different than previous seasons. And what’s interesting is most of the characters have changed so much they’re completely different people from where they started in season 1.”

This certainly applies to Loras, the once dashing Knight of Flowers who we saw languishing in a prison cell in the most recent trailer.

“Loras is definitely in a very tricky situation … I’m hopeful Ser Loras will survive, but it’s not going to be easy and he’s going to be tested – in more ways than one.”

In an interview with TV Line, Maisie Williams gave high praise to her and Faye Marsay’s “incredible” stunt doubles for season 6.

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“They were so great, and they were absolute troopers. They were so fit and incredible and made us look really, really good at fighting,” she said. “Faye and I were pretty good at fighting, as well, but they were much better than us.”

At a promotional event in California recently, HBO revealed new Game of Thrones merchandise items including Funko’s new line of 3-3/4 in. action figures and Pop Vinyl figures of Stannis, Melisandre, Bronn, Margaery, Jorah, Unsullied, Sons of the Harpy, and Daenerys on Drogon.

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    1. Jack Bauer 24: He said he can film GoT and The Iron Fist at the same time.

      I’m sure he can, but I’m betting he’s dead. Not that I want him to go, but I could see Margaery selling him out to get out of prison.

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    2. aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa I just really want a new Sansa Funko figure tbh :/ there’s a few other characters that I would probably buy, but she’s the main one I want tbh, especially seeing as we don’t have one of her with red hair.

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    3. RIP Loras

      Enjoy that Netflix paycheck, boo!

      Where are my Funko pops of Bran, Cat, Missandei, Davos, and THE EDD? I’m waiting.

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    4. Lyannaes:
      aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa I just really want a new Sansa Funko figure tbh :/ there’s a few other characters that I would probably buy, but she’s the main one I want tbh, especially seeing as we don’t have one of her with red hair.

      She should have a Funko pop with that beautiful embroidered dress we saw in the second trailer!

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    5. you snow nothing,

      And his whole I can film both at the same time is the perfect juxtaposition to Kit’s excuse of his new film being a big reason as to why he’s dead and not returning other than “Guys I’m dead.”
      (Which, as an English major, I appreciate him providing evidence as to why he can’t return, but his analysis is a bit lacking 😉 )

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    6. Flayed Potatoes,

      I hadn’t even thought about that tbh, but that’s a perfect model tbh. Hopefully we’ll get one in their pre-s7 batches.

      Where are my Funko pops of Bran, Cat,

      Same!!! I would rather have a full new Stark (and Snow) set than another Dany one, as much as I think hers are really cute.

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    7. Really hoping he makes it through the season. He’s been around since season 1 and has easily been the most ignored of all the characters. There is still time to redeem him and make him what he should be. Hoping he either makes it through or has a chance to stand up for himself for the first time.

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    8. Lyannaes:
      Flayed Potatoes,

      I hadn’t even thought about that tbh, but that’s a perfect model tbh. Hopefully we’ll get one in their pre-s7 batches.

      Same!!! I would rather have a full new Stark (and Snow) set than another Dany one, as much as I think hers are really cute.

      If we’re getting Dany on Drogon, then I imagine they’ll give us the other riders as well. It would be lame if we got just one.

      And yes I’m kind of outraged we don’t have a full Stark set (Rickon included). Do we even have all the direwolves?

      I think it would be great to have a Northern Sansa pop and Jon with new clothes lol. The Stark-er the better haha.

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    9. I am glad Stephen Dillane didnt read the books. Considering how his character was led down the wrong path, i think he may have played it differently.

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    10. QueenofKnowingNothing:
      you snow nothing,

      And his whole I can film both at the same time is the perfect juxtaposition to Kit’s excuse of his new film being a big reason as to why he’s dead and not returning other than “Guys I’m dead.”
      (Which, as an English major, I appreciate him providing evidence as to why he can’t return, but his analysis is a bit lacking )

      Yup! Classic.

      I’m sad about it, nonetheless. He was from season 1! So few of those left 🙁

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    11. Lil off-topic but a man would go to extreme lengths to get his hands on a fully realized GoT VR game. With the Vive/Rift/PSVR on the horizon it has me dreaming. Those devices are 1st gens so they probably don’t have the HP to do a proper GoT game but 2nd/3rd gens, yessir

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    12. Funko sucks. They make it a sport to ignore Sansa.
      IF i were Sophie i wouldnt want to be associated with them. Its INSULTING.

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    13. I’m hoping that Bran finally gets a Funko figure soon, since his role is going to be pivotal in this season. Hopefully Sansa will get a new one as well, with red hair this time.
      As much as I’d like to have a full Stark family collection, I don’t think we’ll be getting a Cat or a Rickon figure. 🙁

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    14. Pigeon,

      lol!

      and Ghost looks a bit tipsy. Nice figures though! Can’t wait to see the Arya action scenes. Will be nice to see her in full on fighting mode.

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    15. I’ve got all the funko big head figures including the new 1s … They’ve been on shelves in Australia for a while now … While I like the look of the new 3.3/4 inch figures or whatever these new 1s are it’s annoying that they have characters the original big head figures don’t have … Puts everything off scale … Meanwhile dark horse really needs to release a cat and reckon figure … That would complete the stark family … And yes a missandie and Dario figure would complete Danys entourage

      Edit I love my darth Sansa dark horse figure but I wish they had waited for a queen of the north Sansa … Dark horse unlike funko pop only does 1 figure per character which is why I prefer them over funko

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    16. I also think Loras will die…. this will def. motivate Margery to seek revenge on the Lannisters and the Faith

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    17. Sansa’s Knight:
      I’ve got all the funko big head figures including the new 1s … They’ve been on shelves in Australia for a while now … While I like the look of the new 3.3/4 inch figures or whatever these new 1s are it’s annoying that they have characters the original big head figures don’t have … Puts everything off scale … Meanwhile dark horse really needs to release a cat and reckon figure … That would complete the stark family … And yes a missandie and Dario figure would complete Danys entourage

      I have all of the new Funko Pop characters too. Series 5 with Stannis, Mel, etc. They are different size then older ones? I have about 25 total, but don’t notice a difference.

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    18. Loras storyline is a massive plothole. In season 1 and 2, he was portrayed as one of the heroes of the show. But after Renly’s death, they (writers) weirdly kept him on at King’s Landing instead of pursuing Stannis at Dragon’s Stone to finish him off. Also why didn’t he side with the Starks instead, since his house would have benefitted the most from the demise of the Lannisters and a Northern war of independence with Stannis?

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    19. Maester Murks:
      Off Topic:
      Stephen Dillane has apparently given another interview where he talked about GoT.
      http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/game-of-thrones/news/a790111/game-of-thrones-star-stephen-dillane-doesnt-miss-playing-stannis/

      Yeah, I love this guy. ‘Didn’t get it’, and played him perfectly. 🙂

      Aryamad:
      Pigeon,

      lol!

      and Ghost looks a bit tipsy. Nice figures though! Can’t wait to see the Arya action scenes. Will be nice to see her in full on fighting mode.

      Yes! And poor Ghost, must have gotten into the boiled wine!

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    20. I think Loras will die and I’m not unhappy that he will. Most of the changes to the characters made for the show are for the better (e.g., Cersei being more multi-dimensional instead of the totally vile, evil, scheming bitch as Marge referred to her – although I could have used a touch more evil to make the Walk more cathartic …).

      But to me the fleshing out of Loras’ character was a total miss that resulted in an overly stereotypical character – I half-way expected a lame Madonna (or the Westeros equivalent) joke at some point. From the book character who volunteered to take Dragonstone in a few weeks for Cersei (bravely but stupidly) and got stabbed, speared, hot oil dropped on him, etc. to the point of death (and takes the castle) to the show character that vamps around in bed and thinks of how beautiful the wedding party will look in their gowns, etc. is a chasm that I cannot bridge. Granted as neither Margeary or he do not have a POV, you are extrapolating from the other characters but even Cersei POVs do not portray him as that over-the-top and she would not have stopped at anything to undermine him. Varys is the one described in the books as mincing and tittering but it’s Loras on the show who is.

      I understand the point- religious fundamentalism (sparrows) bad … let’s make the sparrows into an anti-gay morality police … But there’s subtlety and there’s bashing it into your head.

      Anyway, enough of my rant. One of the very few adaptation choices I did not appreciate.

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    21. Huh! This gives me the idea that Loras actually survives this season, which I didn’t think before now! I also believe that Margaery will not sell him out, but will fight with all her wiles and utmost strength to get him out. The Tyrell siblings have always been close.

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    22. Darkrobin:
      I think Loras will die and I’m not unhappy that he will.Most of the changes to the characters made for the show are for the better (e.g., Cersei being more multi-dimensional instead of the totally vile, evil, scheming bitch as Marge referred to her – although I could have used a touch more evil to make the Walk more cathartic …).

      But to me the fleshing out of Loras’ character was a total miss that resultedin an overly stereotypical character – I half-way expected a lame Madonna (or the Westeros equivalent) joke at some point.From the book character who volunteered to take Dragonstone in a few weeks for Cersei (bravely but stupidly) and got stabbed, speared, hot oil dropped on him, etc. to the point of death (and takes the castle) to the show character that vamps around in bed and thinks of how beautiful the wedding party will look in their gowns, etc. is a chasm that I cannot bridge.Granted as neither Margeary or he do not have a POV, you are extrapolating from the other characters but even Cersei POVs do not portray him as that over-the-top and she would not have stopped at anything to undermine him.Varys is the one described in the books as mincing and tittering but it’s Loras on the show who is.

      I understand the point- religious fundamentalism (sparrows) bad… let’s make the sparrows into an anti-gay morality police … But there’s subtlety and there’s bashing it into your head.

      Anyway, enough of my rant. One of the very few adaptation choices I did not appreciate.

      While I don’t view Finn Jones’ portrayal as “mincing and tittering”, I do think he and the character are rather wasted. As King in Bulawayo said, he was initially introduced as a relatively notable character – the Knight of Flowers and an accomplished warrior, Renly Baratheon’s lover, then later Margaery’s brother. There was an amazing deleted scene from season 2 that showed him mourning Renly’s loss – probably the most lines Finn has ever had and they cut it (though in my mind it’s canon haha). It also gave more depth to the Tyrells as a close-knit family.
      In season 4 he spoke twice, I was glad to see him a little more in season 5 but still… I hope this season is his time to shine, rather than perish, because if he just dies after basically no character development then they shouldn’t have included him to begin with. The scene with Loras and Margaery in the trailer gives me hope… possibly vain hope, but hope nonetheless… 😛

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    23. Maester Murks,

      It’s kind of ironic that Dillane says he never understood the character of Stannis and where he was going because in a 60 second video for BAFTA Guru he gives the following advice with regards to learning your lines: “always know what you’re talking about”… Actors…

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    24. Toby:
      Funko sucks. They make it a sport to ignore Sansa.
      IF i were Sophie i wouldnt want to be associated with them. Its INSULTING.

      Sport? I’d call it business. They obviously make a lot of money selling Dany and dragon figures, so they keep making new ones. If the demand was there they would make more Sansa. Simple as that.

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    25. Selina,

      I think it would be difficult to make a funko pop of a paralyzed kid. The one DarkHorse figurine they have of Bran is where he’s on Hodor’s back. They can’t really do that with a pop. Well they did the Dany riding Drogon pop but that’s different lol.

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    26. Ser Low-Res:
      The new Sam & Gilly clip is here.

      https://www.facebook.com/teamcoco/videos/1135287149863499/

      Thanks. Nothing earth shattering but it’s nice to catch up with Sam & Gilly. I love that Gilly, who up to a few months ago had never been beyond Craster’s Keep, has no problem or trepidation being on a ship. While Sam, who must have traveled by ship before, looks like death warmed over. When Gilly says ‘that was before I knew how to read’, I was reminded of poor sweet Shireen all over again. 🙁

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    27. As one who only enjoyed book 1 and then gave up on the books during book 3 several years ago, I couldn’t remember much about Stannis’ character. I only had Dilane’s version and I think he had as much charisma as a piece of cardboard. I was very surprised, not to say shocked when I entered “fandom” in 2015 to find people loving Stannis and praising Dilane, referring to the character as “Stannis the Mannis”. It was as if they didn’t watch the show but only understood Stannis as if he were Stannis in the books. If you don’t know the books, Stannis is dull, boring, egoistic and ultimately insanely religious spurred by an outrageous feeling of ambition. A man who burns his own daughter in order to reach his goal, in short – a piece of shit. Hardly a likable or respectable character at all.

      No wonder, Dilane didn’t like his character but his lack of enthusiasm throughout the seasons shows and I’m not impressed with his acting skills at all. Lots of characters are despicable or make wrong decisions, and yet the other actors own them and make us believe in them and in some cases even root for them.

      Dilane never did, in my opinion.

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    28. Good to see Maisie giving due credit to the stunt doubles, too often they are forgotten – and not noticed if the production quality is high – while the actor gets all the plaudits for the action scenes.

      Anyone remember the stunt doubles in Xena and Buffy? They were so obviously NOT the actors…

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    29. Darkrobin,

      Feel similar about most other minor characters, but Loras is definitely not one of the stronger adaptations by the writers. For plot reasons they threw out his most defining trait of the book (loyalty to Renly, even after his lover’s death) and his most famous line. They never really managed to salvage his character and basically turned him into a gay stereotype for most of the time.

      Cosine,

      Yeah, it is basically releasing the character from his misery. Not seeing any interesting direction the writers could otherwise go in with him. I suppose they need to inflict some losses on the Tyrells so the rift between them and the Lannisters becomes more permanent.

      Darjan,

      I always marvel at Dillane’s comments, it makes it seem like he played Stannis perfectly because of his apparent disinterest. On my rewatch (it was my first one since the series began) Stannis’ arc was way more complete than I had imagined it to be. Lots of foreshadowing and the sacrifice of his daughter is definitely built up to. Dillane was perfect, love that moment when he unsheathes his sword with Ramsay approaching.

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    30. King in Bulawayo,

      There is no plot-hole here. But I gave up a long time ago. People just don’t understand what a ”plot-hole” is, they think everything they don’t like is one.

      Loras is the heir to Highgarden. So he doesn’t go to Dragonstone, but instead stays in KL, because he is promised to Cersei.

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    31. YgiTTe,

      It’s him on a boat being seasick. Nothing really interesting.
      It’son facebook tough, so check it out if you need your daily dose of GOT. 😛

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    32. Not every character of GoT can be a protagonist/main character. Loras isn’t one in the books and isn’t one in the show. He’s a tertiary character whose role is to serve other characters’ storylines (in this case, Margaery and Cersei). The books use him in a specific way.
      In the show, although he started having the same role in the early seasons, he’s been used in a different way, changing his character. I believe that happened “naturally” in a way: in seasons 1 and 2 they wanted to explore the behind-the-scene-politics of the Tyrells and Renly, so they created intimate scenes between them making the character obviously gay.
      Once Renly was dead however, Loras didn’t really have a role. They had two options: 1) follow the books and make Loras a background “familiar face” with no impact on the plot (not everyone can be a leading character, and Loras isn’t one, therefore unless he is “useful” to other characters, he has no role). Or 2) use the established character in a way that helps the plot.
      Season 3 took the second option in two ways: making Loras the heir to Highgarden, and making him the victim of Littlefinger’s spy-net (I think that was a good option, and had nothing to do with making him a gay stereotype).
      Season 4 had Loras as a background character. Only had lines in one episode, I believe. That’s what you’d get if they hadn’t choose to use him to serve the plot of other characters.
      Season 5, very wisely, used him (and his already-established relationship with Olyvar) as a way to create tension between Cersei and Margaery in a way that was way more significant than in the books. Again, it was a matter of using a familiar face in a way that would serve Cersei’s and Margaery’s story.
      And yes, the result is that a tertiary character like Loras has been changed into someone different. So what?

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    33. I think that Loras can die in S6, but on other hand I feel that he has some sort of plot armor because he is the heir to Highgarden.

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    34. oier,

      Perfectly said!!

      To add on this entire ”gay stereotype” I myself found that candle speech Loras gave much more stereotipically and think this made Loras into that ”gay dude” much more then his relationship with Oliver.

      I don’t see anything ”stereotipical” in a gay man having a relation with another gay man.

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    35. Mihnea,

      When we saw the pic/gif I really thought he was being told of events that transpired at the wall. Poor Sam, I know how he feels. I have to skip certain numbers at dance session because I get dizzy so freakin’ easily. Couldn’t handle a boat on the high seas, nope.

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    36. Hoyti Von Totiy:
      I think Loras will like in the books end up joining the Kings Guard.

      That would leave the Tyrells heirless in the show… so that wouldn’t make much sense, unless…

      During filming in Girona, Tommen’s four Kingsguards (the others are Jaime, the Mountain and the recently deceased Meryn Trant) were shown to have substituted their crown sigil on their breastplate with the Faith’s seven-pointed star, during the scene in which Margaery is freed apparently in exchange for her and Tommen’s complete devotion to the reformed Faith. So maybe the only way Loras is granted freedom is to renounce his Earthly possessions and heirship and join the newly devout Kingsguard. That’d be quite interesting! I like this theory!

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    37. singedbylife,

      I think I agree with you on that; I was also surprised, as a non reader, to find out that so many adore Stannis… Such an unpleasant character, an ambitious murderer and a fool through and through.
      I thought however that Dillane was excellent; that was I guess because that was what I believe Stannis should be, at least in the show.

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    38. Sou:
      singedbylife,

      I think I agree with you on that; I was also surprised, as a non reader, to find out that so many adore Stannis… Such an unpleasant character, an ambitious murderer and a fool through and through.
      I thought however that Dillane was excellent; that was I guess because that was what I believe Stannis should be, at least in the show.

      I thought he came off worse in the books, actually. He’s a dour, unlikeable bottom-liner. The show actually put him front and centre, let him take part in battles, and made him more likeable. The problem with book fans is that they tend to read Stannis through Davos’ eyes (since Stannis is encountered through Davos’ POV chapters) and they take it all at face value (‘Stannis is righteous, honourable, the best King, etc.’)

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    39. Valaquen,

      That’s the problem. We only see him trough Davos’s POV, and we all know his opinion on Stannis…….

      When we see him trough Asha, he gets even worse, because she doesn’t try to find excuses for him, like Davos does.

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    40. Luka Nieto,
      I think (speculation only, but I’ll cover it)

      Marge will sell Loras off. He’ll die, Marge will leave the prison and will convince Tommen to join her in the Faith. Relatedly, the High Sparrow will try to convince Tommen that ‘everyone is a sinner’, including Cersei. This will set the final conflict of the season, which will end up with Cersei killing Tommen, accidentally or on purpose, and taking the reins of power in KL for herself. However, Olenna will ally with the Martells and sic Randyll Tarly on KL (next season).

      I don’t think the show concerns itself much with who will be the heir to the great houses. The Baratheons currently stand heirless, if you don’t count Gendry. I think that between Dany’s breaking the wheel and the War for Dawn, many of the great houses may simply not exist after the show. So the Tyrell heir may simply be irrelevant.

      Or the Reach will return to the Florents.

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    41. joffreysbleedingeyes,
      SPOILERS FOR THE BOOKS
      Book: Myrcella is his heir, as Stannis has been attainted by the crown and the Targaryen semi-Salic Law doesn’t necessarily apply to the Baratheon dinasty.

      However, there’s a new pretender who might oust the Lannisters from power anyway.

      TV show: He doesn’t have a direct heir, unless Margaery is pregnant. If he died childless, I guess the Seven Kingdoms would have to call a Great Council, were the Lords of the Seven Kingdoms would have to decide who, among those who had royal blood, would be the new king (à la Compromise of Caspe).

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    42. joffreysbleedingeyes:
      The question of heirs.

      What happens in book and show if/when Tommen dies

      that’s the question right?i don’t think there is anyone left to press a claim only if margaery is pregnant.This is why i think he won’t die at least until dany reaches westeros

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    43. Yaga: I don’t think the show concerns itself much with who will be the heir to the great houses. The Baratheons currently stand heirless, if you don’t count Gendry.

      Hm… the show doesn’t concern itself with who the heir to the Baratheons is because the House has gone extinct, practically. Also, it happened in the very last aired episode. It’s not like they’ve had any time to deal with it.

      The position of Loras as the heir to House Tyrell (as his older brothers don’t exist in the show) was a major plotpoint in season three of the show: Tywin strong-armed Olenna into accepting Cersei’s and Loras’ marriage, or else he would be inducted into the Kingsguard and the Tyrells would be left heirless. They didn’t ignore the heirship issue back then and I don’t believe they will do so in the future.

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    44. I have a soft spot for Loras so he’s almost certainly doomed I’m afraid 🙁 If his sister deliberately betrays him to save herself I’ll be needing a new tv screen after kicking in this one!

      Anyway, I am probably loosing my mind here (again) but there was a recent post with a Kit Harington interview from Time Out. I seem to remember it was just part of a longer interview which wasn’t yet available. Of course now I try to find the post to double check I can’t, but just in case it wasn’t the full interview, it’s in this week’s issue 🙂

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    45. Lulus Mum: If his sister deliberately betrays him to save herself

      After that tender hug that brought me to tears? Seriously, I’ve never had a soft spot for any of the Tyrells, but this was very touching.
      Marg could always try to be a double agent and convert in order to get out of prison and afterwards try to get Loras out from the outside.
      I hope they don’t kill a gay character for being gay, but then it still happens in the real world, so… I guess I couldn’t really blame them if they wanted to make a point about the impact of religious fanaticism.

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    46. Deesensfan:
      Lulus Mum,

      interviews like this make me think he is gone for good, or at least all of season 6

      ugh!

      I get that feeling too. But i think he’ll come back – My hopes is that we will have to wait until late in the season (maybe ep 6-8?) before he comes back. So long that we all almost give up the hope…I want it to be painful and then BAM, he’s back!

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    47. Deesensfan,

      Ygritte,

      He is literally repeating the same words in his interviews now. “I am a corpse and its some of my best work”. He must have repeated this sentence in atleast 5 interviews! After an entire year of denial, he will not change his answers now. He has to lie, he has no choice (I assume he must be sick of this by now). But one clue that he is indeed lying, is the fact that his answers have changed since the first trailer dropped. Earlier he was insisting he was not definitely not coming back for S6. Later he had to admit that he will be seen as a corpse during the season. So his answers will again change when he does come back. So don’t worry! I do feel bad for him though.

      Luka Nieto,

      Some people in the other thread were guessing that he would have changed his hairstyle post resurrection to the man-bun! And that’s why his hair seems short in that pic. I don’t think that’s him, but could be wrong too.

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    48. joffreysbleedingeyes:
      The question of heirs.

      What happens in book and show if/when Tommen dies

      Technically, Dany is his heir because Robert had a Targaryen grandmother and that was used as a way for him to justify his claim for the throne. In the books there is also Aegon, so if he is legit he comes before Dany. In the books, some characters in the line of succession are still alive.

      Show: Tommen, Dany, Doran Martell, Trystane Martell (the last two can also claim Targaryen ancestry).

      Books: Tommen, Myrcella, Stannis, Shireen, Aegon (if legitimate), Dany, Doran, Trystane.

      If R+L=J and J is legitimate, he comes before Dany (in both cases) and after Aegon in the books.

      Realistically, I assume whoever is in KL when Tommen dies and is in a powerful position, can just ignore the line of succession and take the throne.

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    49. Deesensfan:
      andriakenas (Mack),

      Ugh, if he is being rezzed, and it drags till epis 6-8, that would be annoying. I would like him back by episode 3. Please. I want to have my cake and eat it all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      Haha yes, and that’s what I want, for us to be annoyed – it will make us that much happier when the great twist is revealed 😉

      I’ll bake you a cake if (probably not) I’m right!

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    50. Selina:
      Where is my Bran Funko?

      Yes! I don’t care if he can’t walk. They can make one with whatever outfit he’s wearing in his visions.

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    51. Deesensfan, Ygritte,

      Be strong, my friends! It’s not (that) long until episode 2, when Jon will be back. It’s not only my opinion, lots of other fans believe this. I really am sorry to see you sad, that’s why I’m repeating this over and over again.

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    52. Name *:
      Deesensfan, your, mostly unspoilt, excitement puts a smile on my face.

      I’m so worried she is going to get spoiled right at the last minute.

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    53. Deesensfan,

      You do have a point, and the 6-8 weeks of extra wait for Jon’s return will feel like another 6-8 months. I love that about this show, messing with my feelings.. It will be lovely 🙂

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    54. Deesensfan,

      I am confident because it’s not just my hope or opinion. It has been documented by a lot of people here, who are very good at using all kinds of evidence to support their belief. I trust their judgement and I don’t think that they are just playing lawyer, i.e. using the evidence they find convenient. (No offence to lawyers, in my teen years I was dreaming at becoming one.) They seem like good investigators.

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    55. We really need it to be the 24th now, don’t we? In my case it will be the 25th and having to wait aaaaaaall day to watch the episode and on top of that not be able to visit WotW unless i want to get spoiled…gaaah!

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    56. Good Bye House Tyrell on the show. With Loras dead, that house will officially be extinct when margery dies. Adios to both House Baratheon and House Tyrell.

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    57. Deesensfan:
      andriakenas (Mack),

      Ugh, if he is being rezzed, and it drags till epis 6-8, that would be annoying. I would like him back by episode 3. Please. I want to have my cake and eat it all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      You may have missed this in other threads but we started a drinking/cake eating game every time someone mentions Jon’s dead/alive/inbetween/whatever status. I’ve gained about 50lbs in the last couple of weeks as a result and Hot Pink Lipstick and I have had to book ourselves into a health spa to recover. Whatever happens I hope it’s resolved by the end of ep 2 please, not dragging on for aaaaaaaaages. ’Cos of course D&D are interested in my opinion and will jig events around to suit my needs 😉

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    58. Lulus Mum,

      No, I didn’t know. I will do the drinking game!
      hahaha that’s hilarious

      I know D&D will do this for you. COME ON. Episode 2

      we have should have a prediction thread on when we think it will happen, IF it will happen this season, or if at all!

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    59. Also, in the books, Loras was badly injured when Dragonstone was taken from Stannis. Maybe those injuries would have resulted in his death. Maybe they are playing that into the show somehow.

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    60. Wylie,
      Despite my soft spot for her brother I’ve never trusted Marg. I think it’s at least partly because most other characters’ motivations seem more straightforward to me, whereas half the time I’m not sure what she’s up to or why; whether she does things because she genuinely cares about people/situations or is just appearing to for other reasons.

      I certainly hope she doesn’t betray him but if it happens it needs to be the very last scene of ep 10, so when I kick the tv in I won’t have to immediately replace it to watch the next episode. D&D take note of that too, please! 😉

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    61. This show should officially change its name to The Game of Vaginas. They killed Stannis, soon Loras, rickon, tommen , jamie, trystane and Robin Arryin. Soon it will be the war of the Vaginas, where liberal feminists have influenced DD since where of the books now.

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    62. LOL, I liked this from the end of the Finn Jones interview.

      It seems like most Thrones actors have to spend a season in cell at some point.
      Yeah, I’m earning my stripes. It’s Game of Thrones university, you have to sit in a cell to get to the next level. Hopefully I’ll pass!

      Let’s see how it’s gone. Ned: fail. Arya (Harrenhal): pass. Tyrion (twice!): pass. Jaime: pass. Davos: pass. Bran (Craster’s Keep): pass. Cersei: pass. Theon/Reek: … uhm… pass. Marg & Loras: ??

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    63. Voris Blackwood:
      This show should officially change its name to The Game of Vaginas. They killed Stannis, soon Loras, rickon, tommen , jamie, trystane and Robin Arryin. Soon it will be the war of the Vaginas, where liberal feminists have influenced DD since where of the books now.

      Piss off. To a few centuries earlier, for example.

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    64. Luka Nieto,

      You just can’t win can you?
      Some call them ”Liberal feminists”, like that is a insult.
      Others call them ”rape apologists” and sexists..

      I feel sorry for D&D, to have to put up with this stuff.

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    65. As to Loras’ “story” and fate.
      Obviously it’s different from the books because in the books Loras and Marg have two older brothers, Willas, the heir they plotted to marry to Sansa, and Ser Garlan the Gallant, who’s even better with the sword than Loras (though Loras is better with the lance), and seems like a really nice guy. In the show, Loras is the heir and not in the KG (like he is in the books).

      I’ll put this in spoilers because it’s more detailed book stuff.

      In the books, Loras volunteered to lead an attack and take Dragonstone (Stannis’ seat) for the Crown, which he did with great loss of Lannister soldiers. It’s also reported that he was gravely injured (burned with boiling oil), but the person bringing back the report is somewhat unreliable – he later steals Cersei’s newly built fleet and sets up as a pirate in the Stepstones – so some readers think Loras might not be at death’s door but doing something behind Cersei’s back, something of benefit to the Tyrells.

      Furthermore, Ser Garlan was granted a castle of his own in the southern Reach, (Tyrell lands) and he’s gone to take it from Stannis loyalists, but Euron Greyjoy is attacking the Reach and there’s impending war in the south.

      Now, if the show!Euron attacks the Tyrell lands, Loras might be needed to lead Tyrell troops to defend them. I’m not very hopeful, most probably any Greyjoy attacks in the show will be confined to Oldtown, where a known face (Sam) will be, so there probably won’t be all out war in the south and no introduction to the Hightowers, an old, venerable and powerful Reach family, who’ve ruled over Oldtown since time immemorial. (The Tyrell’s really are upstarts and newcomers to power, wealth and infulence.)

      If the show needs a military leader in the south, Randyll Tarly (Sam’s father) fits the bill. He’s been mentioned in the show several times and he’s apparently there. (In the books he’s in KL.)

      All in all, I’m not very hopeful for Loras’ survival. I was just trying to see a way for him to survive.

      I also agree with several posters above, Loras doesn’t have his own story. He’s a tertiary character that’s needed to drive the stories of primary and secondary characters.

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    66. Deesensfan,

      My first ever comment on this fandom was is Jon snow dead? That was 5 years ago lol. I’ve read every theory imaginable and I 100% believe he will be resurected but my original question has never been truly answered as none of us know. So we are as completely unsullied as you. Let’s hope all the clever guys on here are right ( fingers crossed)

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    67. Ygritte,

      I have to agree with you…I’m kind of a pessimist, but seldom disappointed by being one and really happy when I’m wrong…lol. I think forewarned is forearmed…if it weren’t for WOTW I’d be a believer in what they are selling.

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    68. If Margery sells out Loras I will scream and throw things. That’s BS. However any other scenario in which Loras gets some decent character development I will be ok with, even if he doesn’t make it.

      I’m not sure how I feel about Arya’s action-packed arc this season. The show has been pretty good with adapting her so far IMO, my only issue being that they seem to lean hard into her violent streak at the expense of deeper/more complex emotional development (Brienne suffers from the same). Having a ton of stunts makes me think that they are doubling down on that. Oh well. As long as she gets a certain Starky development this season I won’t complain (much).

      I love Stephen Dillane’s negative interviews. 😛 I actually think the show has done a relatively good job adapting Stannis, and I like Stannis, but every other person who leaves the show claims that they had a 1000% wonderful time at all times and everyone they worked with was fabulous. Which seems statistically impossible. So it’s just refreshing to hear someone say “Eh, I did it for the money. It was a job.” 😛

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    69. Voris Blackwood:
      This show should officially change its name to The Game of Vaginas. They killed Stannis, soon Loras, rickon, tommen , jamie, trystane and Robin Arryin. Soon it will be the war of the Vaginas, where liberal feminists have influenced DD since where of the books now.

      Game of Vaginas would be an awesome show.

      Alas, that is nowhere near what this show actually is. In many ways it’s actually less feminist than the books TBH.

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    70. Lulus Mum,

      Hi, donkey ears! *waving*
      As I have already said in some other thread, I think Margaery does everything she does to be a queen and gain supporters. This doesn’t mean, however, that she couldn’t be a person who pities the poor and really felt sorry for Sansa – but, first of all, she was pursuing her own goals. I think she loves her brother and grandma the way any selfish person does: without doing anything which doesn’t help herself and ready to sacrifice them if it’s necessary for saving herself.

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    71. With Finn now being cast as Iron Fist for the Netflix, Marvel universe I am now convinced Loras will die this season. And I am fine with that since the character hasn’t been particularly engaging or interesting in the show.

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    72. Cosine,

      I agree. I think he could “redeem” himself – I didn’t appreciate that he really didn’t make any effort to resist being taken by the Sparrows … I don’t think the issue is Finn Jones … it’s the way the character has been written

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    73. Shy Lady Dragon,
      Afternoon honey *donkey ears doing 360 degree surround waving*. I like to be emotionally prepared for anything I’m not going to be happy about and now we don’t have the books to guide us I’m erring on the side of pessimism for anyone I like even a little bit. If half of them make it through to S7 I’ll consider that a good result 🙁 Will keep my fingers crossed for Jaime and Brienne getting together (Braime? Jaienne?) for you and Jorah hanging on in there for Pigeon (although she seems to switched allegiance to sexy Jesus lately) 🙂

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    74. Lulus Mum,

      Awww, you’re sweet as always! Braime, I think, sounds better. I asked Pigeon about switching allegiance and she said that Jorah kept his first place in her heart. So, keep your fingers cross for him, although honourable death seems better than greyscale. I’m very sorry for him, I liked the character. Whoops! that Past Tense is of bad omen 🙁
      And about “sexy Jesus” (I hope one of our RL “sparrows” won’t punish you!)… won’t we like him all?

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    75. Shy Lady Dragon,
      OK then, Braime it is and I want Pod to be their best man please 😀 The bit of greyscale we saw in the trailer really reminded me of the guy from the Fantastic Four who looks like he’s made of bricks and is mega strong, so I’m now imagining Jorah turning into him. I only really know about greyscale from the show, do the books tell us about life expectancy/quality for the afflicted? The guy who attacked him and Tyrion certainly didn’t seem to be disabled by it at all, he was very powerful. Hmmm maybe I was right and it does turn you into Fantastic Four brick man with blue pants after all 😉

      As for sexy Jesus, while undoubtedly an attractive man, and he did help Arya of course, he is a mass murderer as far as I know, so probably not potential husband material. Not for me anyway. Do we know if the FMs can die? If so I wouldn’t be at all surprised to see Arya kill the Waif, whether in self defence or on purpose.

      And I just saw today that Sky Atlantic are almost certainly doing the 2am broadcast so I can join the 1st episode party next week. Not long now squeeeeee 😀

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    76. Lulus Mum:
      Shy Lady Dragon,
      OK then, Braime it is and I want Pod to be their best man please The bit of greyscale we saw in the trailer really reminded me of the guy from the Fantastic Four who looks like he’s made of bricks and is mega strong, so I’m now imagining Jorah turning into him. I only really know about greyscale from the show, do the books tell us about life expectancy/quality for the afflicted? The guy who attacked him and Tyrion certainly didn’t seem to be disabled by it at all, he was very powerful. Hmmm maybe I was right and it does turn you into Fantastic Four brick man with blue pants after all

      As for sexy Jesus, while undoubtedly an attractive man, and he did help Arya of course, he is a mass murderer as far as I know, so probably not potential husband material. Not for me anyway. Do we know if the FMs can die? If so I wouldn’t be at all surprised to see Arya kill the Waif, whether in self defence or on purpose.

      And I just saw today that Sky Atlantic are almost certainly doing the 2am broadcast so I can join the 1st episode party next week. Not long now squeeeeee

      Sigh….look, I’ve posted this before, and I know it’s super spoilery, but i DID find out how the Jorah/Daario road trip goes in Season 6:

      https://www.google.ca/search?q=fantastic+4+chiklis+julian&client=ms-android-samsung&source=lnms&prmd=ivn&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiQhcnZvI_MAhUCkYMKHYkJAEAQ_AUIBygB&biw=360&bih=511#tbm=isch&q=fantastic+4+thing&imgrc=U9Uxt7YZ5cowsM%3A

      Truth is, I have a wonderful open relationship with Jorahbear, Jaqen, and Sandor, there is enough love for all. ❤

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    77. Molestown bastard,
      It’s not 100% certain, but highly likely, so keep that supply of plates, napkins etc to hand for our party with Shy Lady Dragon and Aryamad. There were some others coming too, I seem to remember JC Davis, not sure who else, so perhaps an extra packet of everything to be on the safe side? I’ll bring more cake. You can NEVER have too much cake. I think we’ll have to wait until this monday morning to see if it comes up in the week ahead planner to be absolutely sure but I am officially hopeful of a simulcast or whatever they call it 😀

      Pigeon,
      That picture is awesome, I hadn’t seen it before. You are all heart Lady Pigeon, I hope you and your harem are very happy together 😀

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