20 New Photos from Game of Thrones Season 7, Episode 6 – Beyond the Wall!

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As the sixth episode of this shortened season, “Beyond the Wall” happens to be the penultimate hour of Game of Thrones this year. So this episode is not only a big deal because of its record running time, but also because it’s effectively an “episode nine.” Going by the sheer amount of promotional material, it may well live up to its promise. After a first batch of twelve, today 20 new photos were released by FarfarAwaySite, showing us Dragonstone, Winterfell, and the quest beyond the Wall in greater detail.

First we have a heart-to-heart between Daenerys and Tyrion, which is sure to be quite interesting after the events in the previous episode. Tyrion, as ever, looks worried. Of course, Emilia Clarke and Peter Dinklage look as gorgeous as ever lit by the fireplace.

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In Winterfell, Sansa and Arya stand where their parents often stood, looking down at the courtyard, and later talk in private. Sansa looks worried. Arya looks creepy. We are collectively worried. As for Littlefinger, I’m sure whatever he’s telling Sansa in that photo is completely innocent and not self-serving at all. And Brienne is back! It’d be nice if she began having a larger role again before the season comes to an end.

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Finally, as expected, the most represented setting in this batch is the one that gives the episode its name — Beyond the Wall, depicted by the beautiful vistas of Iceland… and Iain Glen. The photographer really liked Iain Glen’s face, and who can blame them. Indeed, there’s a lot of Jorah here, as well as Jon Snow, Beric, Sandor, and Tormund. There’s a bit of Gendry and… does Thoros think he’s fooling anyone with that top knot?

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With so many characters coming together, we can expect many an interesting conversation… before the shit inevitably hits the fan, that is. Is that what you guys are looking forward to the most? Or is it the White Walker action? The Winterfell drama? Tyrion and Dany’s tête-à-tête? Something else? Tell us in the comment section!

158 Comments

  1. I’m so ready for some WW action. I always enjoy when they show up. However, thanks to the leaks, it’s hard to avoid spoilers and I don’t have the willpower to sat off the Internet. But I’m doing my best because I want the full experience on Sunday.

  2. HelloThere,

    Seriously!

    I honestly cant say this enough, but Emilia is killing it this year… she always does, but this year… wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    The difference between Emilia and Dany is huge… she really gets into character and its so different than Emilia.

    AMAZING!

  3. ROFL, can’t wait to hear the Hound and Tormund conversation

    So weird to see so many different people from previously different dimensions of the show come together

    Beric and Ser Jorah as well

    Looking forward to Winterfell, not really sure why there’s the Arya bashing. Hopefully they all just unseat LF before too long for his games

  4. I’m especially curious about the conversation between Tyrion and Dany, and the dynamics between the Stark sisters and Littlefinger! Who will be the smartest..? I have a feeling Littlefinger his story is over and will bite the dust soon.
    I know because of spoilers most of what will happen beyond the wall, but can’t wait to see how spectacular everything will look :).

  5. Ghost’s Lunch,

    I’m looking forward to their conversation too! They do have Brienne in common. 😂

    Also, I’m really hoping Jon and Beric discuss the fact that they have both been resurrected. And seven hells, so many of these characters have interacted with Arya so she HAS to come up as well. *fingers crossed*

  6. Boojam,

    Exactly! LOL! All I can think about with those pictures beyond the wall is, “Why isn’t anyone wearing a toboggan, or at least a hoodie?”

  7. Haven’t watched the whole leaked episode but a few tiny bits. Those are gorgeous… goosebumps… on my face!!! I’m so excited. Normally I can’t wait for the weekend. Now I can’t wait for the end of the weekend… well, Monday actually because I live in Krautcountry…

    I always got emotional watching GOT but this year… it’s a blast!!! I already bought a new box of tissues and a bottle of Jameson…

    I guess next year I’m going to need a dolphin therapy to recover…

  8. Emilia has always been absolutely gorgeous, both on the show and in real life, but I honestly think that she’s looked more lovely than ever this year, and these pictures are no exception. Maybe it’s her full embrace of her Targaryen colors and Fire and Blood regalia. Maybe it’s the way that they’re lighting her, and the way that her scenes are being staged to capture just what makes her such a captivating figure to so many.

    Whatever the reason, I found her especially striking last week in a pair of contrasting scenes. One was the sequence where Daenerys strides up onto the rocky outcropping to survey the defeated Lannister army with Drogon in the background. In that moment, when she was in full conqueror mode, I found myself thinking that she looked – to borrow a phrase from Lady Galadriel – “not dark, but beautiful and terrible as the dawn”.

    Contrast that with the scene in which she says farewell to Jon and Jorah on the beaches of Dragonstone. The scene was far warmer and more intimate, and the camera captured Emilia’s performance in such a way that effortlessly conveyed how deeply Dany cares for those two men and why they’re both so smitten with her. The visual storytelling in those two scenes really captured some of the most essential elements of Dany’s character, even before you factor in the dialogue and everything else that Emilia is bringing to the table with her performance.

    If this post comes off as less substantive and more gushing about just how stunning Emilia Clarke is, well … guilty as charged, I guess. But through five episodes, I genuinely think that this has been one of Dany’s very best seasons. The Dragon Queen’s arrival on Westerosi shores is an incredibly consequential moment in history, and I think that the show is doing a great job of capturing what a long shadow that she casts over the story and all of the characters in it. Whether they love her or hate her, revere her or fear her, Daenerys exerts a magnetic effect on all those around her, and both Emilia and the production team – directors, cinematographers, costume designers, etc. – are doing a great job of bringing that dynamic to life on screen.

  9. Oh, the feels, the feels!

    I also want to hear a Tormund/Hound conversation. They are both so tact-free, it should be fun! And if Brienne comes up….Tormund will be so jealous. I mean, if he was jealous of Pod, think how he’d envy Sandor being almost killed by her!

    Just_M, that is a terrific idea–a box of tissues and a bottle of Jameson!

  10. Emilia is just so magnetic.
    No matter who shes on screen with, your eyes go straight to her. And its not her beauty, its that certain special star quality that cannot be learned… you just have it.

  11. Nice new pictures! I am so looking forward to watching the episode – for the first time – on Sunday. There are many scenes I am looking forward to and some……. not at all.

    Jared,
    Well said. To date, this, together with Season 1, is Emilia/Daenerys’ best seasons. And she is delivering. The conqueror, who also cares about people. What I am anticipating very much at the end of the series, is how she will “break the wheel.” Those references are still ongoing. I also loved how she addressed the common Lannister soldiers in that first scene, not just parleyed with the Lords. She is no pushover or easily influenced (as Tyrion and Varys are discovering), terrible and beautiful at once. Also, Emilia’s (and Kit’s acting) this season is helping to sell the Jon-Daenerys love story with very few lines of dialogue and not a lot of screen time as the best love story of the series to date.

  12. Gfx:
    Sunday is going to be amazing. Can’t wait to see the Magnificent 7 in action!

    ⛄️💫👑🐕🐻⚡️🍷🔨💋🔥

    ☠💀💀👻💀💀☠
    ☠💀💀👻💀💀☠
    ☠💀💀💀👻💀💀💀💀💀☠

  13. These may very well be the most indifferent photos ever released before an episode.

    And, guys, I don’t expect they will spend a whole lot of time chatting beyond the Wall; you should set your expectation level at the lowest possible level!

    This is, without a doubt, Emilia Clarke’s season.

  14. Just_M,

    There’s a quarantined area in the Forum section if you want to talk about “leaks.” Not here. Please!
    🚱🚱🚱🚱

  15. Jared,

    Just have to commend you on some really well-written posts in different articles the last few days. It’s a pleasure to read something where actual intelligent, passionate thoughts shines trough as opposed to negative nitpicker-posts…. THIS is what I like to come to WotW for 🙂 Thank you!

  16. Sou,

    I’m expecting conversation and I’m ready to get my hopes up for it. They can’t pass up this opportunity for conversation between the “Fellowship”. There’s just too much rich shared history between them. I don’t expect a ton of it, but I do expect some.

  17. Dee Stark,

    LOL…you may want to cool down and de(e)-hype a bit by NOT wearing one this weekend, Dee!! I’m slowly getting worried, you’re going keel over and faint by the end of this season!!! 😀

  18. Dead Dane Walking,

    Thank you! 🙂 I’ve really been enjoying the thoughts that you’ve been posting on various articles as well. The opportunity to have intelligent and passionate discussions about this great show with people who love it as much as I do is why I enjoy coming here so much!

    Though I must say that it’s quite easy to sound intelligent and passionate when one’s talking about Emilia Clarke. Lavishing praise upon her is really a taxing exertion, let me tell you. 😉

  19. Jared: Though I must say that it’s quite easy to sound intelligent and passionate when one’s talking about Emilia Clarke. Lavishing praise upon her is really a taxing exertion, let me tell you.

    🙂

    Honestly.. she doesn’t get enough of it, IMO… so im loving this thread.

  20. Mr Derp:
    Sou,

    I’m expecting conversation and I’m ready to get my hopes up for it.They can’t pass up this opportunity for conversation between the “Fellowship”.There’s just too much rich shared history between them.I don’t expect a ton of it, but I do expect some.

    I’d love that too! I wonder though whether it will be possible. But ok, let’s keep our hopes up!

    Dee Stark:
    Dead Dane Walking,

    HAHAHAHA

    WELL I don’t need a tuque in AUGUST LOL
    But I do in JANUARY

    I MAY DIE LOOL

    Anyone remember when they filmed those scenes in Iceland? Because, ok, we nag out of realism considerations, but imagine those poor guys having to film in the cold with their heads in the freezing air!

  21. Jared:

    If this post comes off as less substantive and more gushing about just how stunning Emilia Clarke is, well … guilty as charged, I guess. But through five episodes, I genuinely think that this has been one of Dany’s very best seasons. The Dragon Queen’s arrival on Westerosi shores is an incredibly consequential moment in history, and I think that the show is doing a great job of capturing what a long shadow thatshe casts over the story and all of the characters in it. Whether they love her or hate her, revere her or fear her, Daenerys exerts a magnetic effect on all those around her, and both Emilia and the production team – directors, cinematographers, costume designers, etc. – are doing a great job of bringing that dynamic to life on screen.

    Agree wholeheartedly! Emilia has been phenomenal this season. I think Eastwatch particularly gave her an opportunity to show so many sides to Dany.

    I had such high expectations for the Jon/Daenerys scenes, and was so excited when I saw that they were not only met but massively exceeded. She and Kit are fantastic on screen together, and their interactions have been a highlight of the season for me.

    I remember the Icelandic landscape from Jon’s first foray north in seasons two and three, and these pictures make it look just as stunning as it was then. Perhaps more so.

    I can’t wait to see the Magnificent Seven interact – there is such a fantastic blend of those who know each other well, and those who are strangers. Those who have a lot in common, and those with little. Such potential for discussion topics!

    The Dragonstone photographs – both those here and the ones released on Wednesday – are beautifully lit. Daenerys and Tyrion have had very little one-on-one time so far this season, but they seem to finally be getting some in this episode if the pictures are anything to go by. After being such a hub of activity, who is even left on Dragonstone besides these two, Varys and Missandei? Are we to assume Theon is still there?

    I am also looking forward to the Winterfell segment and to more Sansa and Arya interaction. Sophie and Maisie are fantastic on screen together. They have great chemistry. I remember D&D saying (I think around season two) that Lena and Peter’s close friendship seemed to translate amazingly well to sibling rivalry on screen, and I think the same is true of Sophie and Maisie.

  22. Dee Stark: Honestly.. she doesn’t get enough of it

    Agreed! There are numerous ‘sides’ to Daenerys and I’ve always thought Emilia has conveyed them very well. She has to jump back and forth between presenting herself as unemotional, regal and powerful to the opposite quite a bit and that can’t be easy.

  23. Ghost’s Lunch:
    “ROFL, can’t wait to hear the Hound and Tormund conversation”

    “Hopefully they all just unseat LF before too long for his games”

    With 70 minutes this week, I’m SO hoping they’ll give us a little portion of those minutes for verbal ping-pong while travelling! I guess Jorah/Jon needs to talk too (about Dany and perhaps Sam). Maybe Gendry/Jon?! as they seemed to hit it off quite well and must have a lot of history and common bastard thoughts to share (they don’t know JS is legit Targaryen/Stark yet)…

    But why Jorah/Beric? Did they fight with or against each other in the last war? I don’t remember…

    GOD I really am tired of hearing LF’s annoying voice!!! Don’t get me wrong – I find his acting superb and that’s why it makes me physically feel the hate towards a nonexistent fictional character – but I want him dead…like NOW!

  24. Dee Stark,

    HAHA – to be fair, I don’t know which part of Maple Leaf-land your located, and as far my limited knowledge goes, you COULD be in a eskimo-region where it’s needed 😀

  25. … And since I haven’t mentioned it for a couple weeks… I have to say again that Sophie is doing so much better this season as well, from the perspective of someone that had given her flack. Perhaps what she has had to do this season is a little easier for her, or having Maisie around has helped and made her more comfortable. Whatever it is it feels like she’s being herself and blending into the scenes rather than standing on the X and reciting lines.

  26. I wonder if Tyrian will address Danys longing looks towards Jon and suggest a marriage alliance in that heart to heart. He brought it up 6.10 and nothing is said without reason. Last episode he clearly noticed her affections towards Jon.

    I ship it for sure; it’s a fantasy novel and they haven’t grown up knowing their relationship so whatever. Haha

  27. Dee Stark:
    Boojam,

    100%

    I live in Canada. YOU NEED A TUQUE!!!

    I’m just south of ya in Maine and believe me, I keep looking at those pictures saying to myself, “what’s wrong with these guys…they need hats!

  28. HunterMac87,

    Jorah noticed that Dany is attracted to Jon too. You could tell when Jorah and Dany were saying goodbye to each other that Jorah cut his goodbye short and relented to Jon. It was subtle, but it was there. I think Jorah and Jon will have a conversation about Dany while Tyrion and Dany will have a conversation about Jon. At least, I hope.

  29. Can I just say how cool it is to see Jorah in the north? He’d suit anywhere, but there’s something special about him back in his homeland.

  30. Sou: Anyone remember when they filmed those scenes in Iceland? Because, ok, we nag out of realism considerations, but imagine those poor guys having to film in the cold with their heads in the freezing air!

    Being from the Scandinavian part of the world, where you’ll get anything from approx. -40 to 35 degrees Celcius (-40 to 95 Fahrenheit), I can say most people will get used to it pretty fast – even citizens who aren’t native 😉

  31. Carole H:
    I’m looking forward to the whole damn thing. Bugger the weekend role on Monday! !!!

    Ahhh… and to Thronecast on Monday evening 😉

    I reckon this episode will give them plenty to talk about!

  32. Mr Derp,

    I agree you could see it in the scene round the table that Jorah saw Dany’s face and her reaction when Jon said he was leaving. It also seemed that as they pushed the boat out Jorah turned round but Dany was looking at Jon hoping he would turn round but he didn’t and Jorah looked a wee disappointed.

  33. Jared,

    Well thx in return, good lad!

    …oh believe me, I was almost doing the male variant of swoooooning (if such a phenomenon exists?! 😀 ), while reading your comments about her and right after seeing the pictures above… I wasn’t bend over backwards by Emilia’s acting earlier on, but now I couldn’t agree more – she’s really become close friends with the cameras this season!

  34. Mr Derp: LOL, does he ever?

    Haha touché! Well…he almost did when Arya clubbed the poor fellow with the broken carriage wheel, but other than that…hmm…nope!

  35. Black Raven,

    Hey Black Raven excellent programme last week I thought. I have forgotten who is on this week. I have hairdressers tomorrow and I know he has seen the leak so it will be a nightmare cause he can’t help himself 😠

  36. Dee Stark: I MAY DIE LOOL

    Please don’t! We still have 1-1½ year to go and we need your hype in the fight against the NK…and especially to lift the spirit as long as LF’s lurking and whispering 😉

    Anyways gotta go y’all…live open air-concert with Runrig comin’ up in a couple of hours, so just wishing everyone a great Friday and keep up the “hyggelige” debate atmosphere on WotW! 🙂

  37. The Hound: “And then I kicked her right in the cunt… But, she got the better of me.”

    Tormund: “… tell it again, Sandor.”

    The Hound: “Damn it! That’s five times already. I’m not telling it again! Go to sleep!”

    Tormund: “Just one more!”

    Jorah, Thoros, Beric, Jon, Gendry: “Hey, White Walkers. Come kill us! Please!”

  38. Dee Stark,

    I agree wholeheartedly! 🙂

    Alba Stark,

    Yeah, Jon and Dany’s scenes together have exceeded all of my hopes and expectations, and my hopes and expectations were extremely high. The way that the writers, the directors, and above all Kit and Emilia have constructed their dynamic and built up their burgeoning connection with and attraction to one another is fantastic. I always liked the idea of the two of them together, but even I’ve been surprised by the degree to which I’ve become invested in their relationship. They’ve handled it so well.

    I can’t wait to see the Magnificent Seven interact – there is such a fantastic blend of those who know each other well, and those who are strangers. Those who have a lot in common, and those with little. Such potential for discussion topics!

    Absolutely! As much as I’m looking forward to the sure-to-be-stellar action sequences in the coming episode, I may be looking forward to those conversations even more. With a 70 minute runtime, there’s no way that the episode will be wall-to-wall battle scenes. The Magnificent Seven all have history together, and I feel like we’re destined for some truly great character moments before the Night King descends upon our heroes and the stakes rise to terrifying heights.

  39. Dark Sister:
    Ghost’s Lunch,

    “…And seven hells, so many of these characters have interacted with Arya so she HAS to come up as well. *fingers crossed*”

    Comment and Question:

    • That was my first thought when Jon and Gendry went to visit the “volunteers” Tormund had locked up in the Eastwatch cells: Between Gendry, Thoros, Beric, and the Hound, Jon could compile a detailed, continuous chronology of what Arya’s been up to from the time Yoren smuggled her out of KL as “Arry”, traveling north along with Gendry and the other NW recruits [S1e10]; her servitude at and escape from Harrenhall; her time as “guest” of the Brotherhood; and her adventures as Sandor’s “traveling companion; until she left the gravely wounded Sandor at the bottom of the cliff [S4e10]. I would think Jon would be interested to know where Arya has been and what she’s been up to. All of those four current compatriots got to know Arya pretty well.

    (Hypothetical example:
    Sandor: “I got stabbed and bitten, killed five soldiers, and got a bounty on my head since she had to get back that little sword of hers because, she said, “My brother gave me that sword.”)

    I understand the fast pace and limited time in abridged S7 doesn’t leave much room for exposition. Still, 5 of the Magnificent 7 have something in common. I don’t expect that right after they emerge from the Eastwatch tunnel at the end of E5, they’ll immediately encounter the NK and his posse at the opening of E6. From the photos, it looks like they’ll have at least a few minutes for chit chat.

    • QUESTION: In the last episode, when Jon received the RavenGram from WF, he said he had thought Arya was dead. Why?
    In S6e2 didn’t Brienne tell Sansa Arya was alive and well (at least as of S4e10)? And when Sansa reconnected with Jon in CB (in S6e3 or e4) and started talking about taking back WF, I thought Sansa expressly mentioned that it’s their home, and Arya’s, Bran’s and Rickon’s, wherever they were.
    (I don’t like to extrapolate conversations we aren’t shown on screen, but surely Brienne would’ve filled in Jon about her encounter with his alive-and-kicking sister Arya.)

    So why would Jon have thought Arya was dead?

  40. Dee Stark: WHY????

    Can’t say. 🙁 🙁 🙁 🙁 🙁

    HelloThere:
    Kay,

    I still say Ned and cat is the best love story

    Hey, to each their own! Personally, I would hope that if Daenerys and Jon became a couple, that neither would keep a secret from each other as big as the one Ned kept from Catelyn (bastard “son”.) 😉

  41. Elizabeth: I’m just south of ya in Maine and believe me, I keep looking at those pictures saying to myself, “what’s wrong with these guys…they need hats!

    I’m in Minnesota. North of the Wall is baseball cap weather for us. 😛

  42. I’ve fanficed the Jorah-Dany conversation that should have happened in my head:

    When Jorah volunteers to go, Dany looks at him:

    Dany: “You just got here!”
    Jorah: “Khaleesi, I dreamed of being here by you, helping you create this new world, almost every minute of every day.”
    Dany, smiling slightly in confusion: “Almost?”
    Jorah: “As I sat in my sickroom at the Citadel, with only the sword the Maesters left me so I could kill myself, I thought of the debts I owe.

    This man, the King in the North. I knew him as the Bastard of Winterfell. His father sentenced me to death, and I deserved it. But I ran. And now I see Jon Snow carrying my family’s sword and I realize he was more of a son to my father than I was.

    I owe Jon Snow a debt. For the comfort he gave my father.

    It was the Night’s Watch that saved me, Khaleesi. A young acolyte named Samwell Tarly

    Dany: “Tarly?”
    Tyrion: “You know, the new Lord of HornHill after today”
    Dany: “Shut up”
    Jon: “Sam!”

    Jorah: “He saved me. He risked his standing in the Citadel and his very life to do so. I owe the Night’s Watch a debt.

    “And lastly, though the Dothraki call me Jorah the Andal, I am of the North. The blood of the First Men runs through my veins. I want to see my home. I’ve been gone so long the child Ser Davos tells me is ruling Bear Island was not even born when I left.

    “The North remembers, Khaleesi. But, I have forgotten. Now, I remember. I beg you for your release.”

    Dany is crying. “I release you. Return to me, Ser Jorah. Return to me.”

    Jon: “Jorah, of the House Mormont, as King in the North and Lord of Winterfell, I pardon you for crimes against the North. Although I’m not sure Lady Lyanna will let you take over… and I’m staying out of that one.”

    Dany: “Lyanna, what a pretty name.”

    Jon: “That’s my aunt’s name.”

    Drogon, watching from outside: “”

  43. Mr Derp,

    It would be great if Jorrah actually moved to encourage this one as opposed to the last. Really working for Dany to be happy even if his love for her will never be what he wants. I also want a conversation over Longclaw. I don’t know how that doesn’t come up

  44. Kay: Kay
    August 18, 2017 at 12:23 pm
    Dee Stark: WHY????

    Can’t say. 🙁 🙁 🙁 🙁 🙁

    😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😨😰😨😱😰😰😢😢😰😨😰😱😨😨😰😢😢😰😨😱😱😰😰😰

  45. Boojam,

    Oh my god, yes! A few years ago I went on a month-long ski expedition in sub-zero temperatures, doing some wildlife research, and two of us got frostbite through our clothes, and my whole face basically peeled off (the skin grew back fine, but it was greyscale-worthy for a while, and I’m sure I’ll pay for it in old age with incredible wrinkles).

    All I can think when I look at these pictures is, put on your damn hats, people!

  46. Ten Bears: Sandor: “I got stabbed and bitten, killed five soldiers, and got a bounty on my head since she had to get back that little sword of hers because, she said, “My brother gave me that sword.”)

    Oh, I didn’t think of that element of a possible conversation. Sandor isn’t much for talk so getting that deep in might be too much to expect. It could be a great addition though in assuring Jon that she can handle herself. “She helped me fight off a band of Lannister men at an inn over all the fucking chickens and a sword she named Needle for some reason.”

  47. WorfWWorfington: Tyrion: “You know, the new Lord of HornHill after today”
    Dany: “Shut up”

    Lol.

    Drogon, watching from outside: “”

    I still believe Big D will be the deciding factor. 🙂 If Jon ever bonds with R or V, can you imagine the reaction if he flies into Winterfell? Lord Glover will shit his fickle britches.

  48. Ten Bears: So why would Jon have thought Arya was dead?

    Ten Bears,

    Didn’t make a lot of sense to me either. That, and the part at the beginning with Jaime and Bronn escaping were the only two parts of the episode that bugged me a little bit.

  49. Houndie looks like a kid who’s been told he can’t have ice cream, and Beric looks like he’s looking for a fight. Lol!

  50. Ten Bears: So why would Jon have thought Arya was dead?

    I would say it was simply assuming the worst considering the situation in Westeros and Lannisters after them. It had been a long time since Brienne saw her without word after. His last news about Bran was that he headed beyond the Wall. It makes sense for him to think the were dead but I’m sure he had hope they weren’t.

  51. Oh, and of course, nitpicking about the lack of hats in no way diminished my enjoyment of the show. I love it! But I do worry about those guys’ ears.

  52. Hodors Bastard,

    That was supposed to be Drogon: “rolls eyes” but it didn’t work.

    Really, I wrote that just to imagine Iain Glen saying “The North Remembers…”

    I’m a straight man, and I’ve only questioned that three times:
    * When I saw Daniel Day-Lewis in “Last of the Mohicans”
    * Matt Bomer in general
    * Whenever Iain Glen speaks.

  53. hunterMac87: I also want a conversation over Longclaw. I don’t know how that doesn’t come up

    I think Jon would have to bring that up. Remember that Longclaw had a boar’s head pommel before Jeor replaced it with the wolf for Jon. Unless Jorah were to just say the sword looks similar to his family sword it would seem like an accusation of sorts to straight out tell Jon that he has the Mormont sword.

  54. Ten Bears,

    Yeah, I thought someone would mention her while sailing to Eastwatch, but that didn’t happen lol. I’d guess it would either be Gendry or Beric who could bring up Arya to Jon, then the Hound would probably chime in.

    Regarding you’re very legitimate question, others have mentioned some plot holes and rationalized that Brienne saw her years before getting to Sansa. So while she potentially could have told Jon about her off-screen, it would also be reasonable to have little hope of her survival given that they heard nothing else about her.

    I hope they do talk about Arya and it would be nice to give Yoren some vindication since he was a Brother. In the books, the NW had no idea what happened to him and assumed he was dead, which is correct. I personally hope Jon has a conversation with these men who could track Arya’s travels up until the Hound and come to ask the question “Where has she been the past few years?” OR I would be excited if the Hound (and others) hear that Arya is alive and well at Winterfell from Jon, and ALSO remembers that Walder Frey is dead, because the Hound knew about her list (I’m assuming word spread about the demise of House Frey). But this is also an important episode so I’m not sure how much of these conversations we’re going to get.

  55. Jenns:
    I’m so ready for some WW action. I always enjoy when they show up. However, thanks to the leaks, it’s hard to avoid spoilers and I don’t have the willpower to sat off the Internet. But I’m doing my best because I want the full experience on Sunday.

    This weeks wait seems extra long and it’s only Friday… I look on youtube for Eastwatch reviews and I see quite a few of next week’s reviews already posted and it’s tough to avoid them… but I will

    I am looking forward to more Dragonstone, Winterfell and Kings Landing scenes….

    I don’t care at all about any fighting with the wights beyond the wall

  56. Carole H:
    Black Raven,

    Hey Black Raven excellent programme last week I thought.I have forgotten who is on this week. I have hairdressers tomorrow and I know he has seen the leak so it will be a nightmare cause he can’t help himself 😠

    Oh dear… That’s bad news if your hairdresser has seen the leak! Do as I did to my younger daughter recently who has also seen the leaked episode (she wanted to show me some clips from it on her smartphone) so I turned away and said I didn’t want to know.

    I have plenty of will power regarding avoiding GoT leaks and told her I will watch it at 2am Monday morning (and again on Monday evening followed by Thronecast) when its officially aired 😀

  57. I too want to hear that conversation between Sandor and Tormund! Brienne’s ears will be burning! From the photos it looks like there could be a number of good chats. I hope so, they don’t have to be long, just enough to tie some obvious connections together…please!

  58. They don’t wear headgear for the same reason they never wear helmets in battle (usually) – audience has to recognize them. Lol. I’m from northern Canada so I always notice it too. 😂 Poor Sandor doesn’t have to worry about losing his ears to frostbite, I suppose. How jealous would Tormund be to know that Brienne bit him? LOL!

  59. Clob,

    Yea i see that, though i think Jorah would just put it together. Valyrian steel seems to be pretty indistinguishable to experienced knights and with his father dead i would think he has wondered where its gone.

    Also when its all over, whether Jon dies or not, a scene with Longclaw being returned to Bear Island would be a great parallel to Ned returning Dawn to Starfall.

  60. Dee Stark: burn the fooooker!

    Hah! I wonder what Sam’s reaction will be. Now we need a hypothetical scene where Gendry tells Jon that his father killed Jon’s real father on the battlefield. Mix in Dany over dinner, rehashing what her father did to Jon’s grandfather and uncle and what she did to Sam’s family, that’ll be the best convo ever! How Jon stays cool (family killed by Lannisters, Baratheons and Targs) is beyond me. His ignorance is bliss! Best ride V far away and brood.

    The Magnificent Seven indeed! A treasure trove of bittersweet stories between them!

  61. Hodors Bastard: Hah! I wonder what Sam’s reaction will be. Now we need a hypothetical scene where Gendry tells Jon that his father killed Jon’s real father on the battlefield. Mix in Dany over dinner, rehashing what her father did to Jon’s grandfather and uncle and what she did to Sam’s family, that’ll be the best convo ever! How Jon stays cool (family killed by Lannisters, Baratheons and Targs) is beyond me. His ignorance is bliss! Best ride V far away and brood

    LOL!!!!!!!

  62. Im fairly certain on ship to Eastwatch Jon and Jorah had lots of time to talk. Maybe we just didnt see their conversation. Too many plot points and not enough time for everything on film.

  63. Dead Dane Walking,

    …..” GOD I really am tired of hearing LF’s annoying voice!!! Don’t get me wrong – I find his acting superb and that’s why it makes me physically feel the hate towards a nonexistent fictional character – but I want him dead…like NOW!

    Time is too precious to waste another minute on LF spewing gibberish like some cheap dime store Sun Tzu. There are so many rich opportunities for great dialog between the seven adversaries-turned-allies on a mission from god, that it would be a shame to have to sit through yet another repetitious scene of Snidely Whiplash trying to manipulate the Stark sisters to turn on each other. (I could easily watch an entire episode of Tormund and the Hound comparing their techniques for gnawing on drumsticks.)

  64. Pigeon: Poor Sandor doesn’t have to worry about losing his ears to frostbite, I suppose. How jealous would Tormund be to know that Brienne bit him?

    The possibilities for conversations just keeps on getting better and better… lol. Thx!

  65. Ten Bears,

    Im sure other than for pure fan service, we will get some decent dialogue among the party of 7.

    LFs dialogue isnt gibberish. Its perfectly clear to understand what hes saying and its relevant.

  66. Hodors Bastard: The possibilities for conversations just keeps on getting better and better… lol. Thx!

    S: “…and after she punched me in the balls, she bit my fucking ear off!..”
    T: (in awe) “Reaaally….what kind of bite?”
    S: “What do you mean, what kind of fucking bite? One that takes your fucking ear off!!!”
    T: “Can I see?”
    S: “I’m going to kill you.”

  67. Ten Bears,

    I completely agree about what you said about Jon thinking Arya was dead. I would’ve assumed he was aware of what Brienne told Sansa as well.

    I also noticed that it didn’t make sense for him to say he thought Bran was dead. A couple of episodes ago, Dany said something like, “I understand you lost two brothers as well”, which Jon agreed with (Rickon and Robb). But if he really thought Bran was dead why didn’t he say he lost three brothers? I just seems like the writers messed up.

  68. I agree with the article that it would be nice for Brienne to have something useful to do at some point. Same with Pod. I enjoy those two.

  69. Farcical_Aquatic_Ceremony,

    ” relegated him to a caricature of a moustache twirling villain this season”

    I think Aiden’s performance is just as much to blame as the writing in this regard.
    Since season 1, hes never delivered a single line of dialogue in anything other than his “mustache twirling” monologue voice… Its grating.
    Maybe its the writers decision, since hes hailed as such a fine actor.

  70. I think Emilia get’s a lot of shit for her acting chops, people regularly label her as one of the weaker actors on the show but I think she does a fine job. I think she does what the role requires and she really gives off a stoic and regal manner, I can’t imagine anyone else in her role. I think Emilia actually looked her best in season 1 …lol, maybe because of that Bath scene in the pilot episode…lol , now for my money I think Nathalie get’s my vote for hottest on the show.

  71. Manny K: I think Nathalie get’s my vote for hottest on the show.

    Manny K,

    Hmm, it’s hard to argue with that. It’s a tough decision to me. I actually kind of find Gilly to be the most attractive, but it depends on my mood I think.

    Outside of the show, I think Sophie Turner is beautiful, but I don’t find her nearly as attractive in the show for whatever reason. Although, very few of the actors are as attractive in the show as they are in real life.

  72. Mr Derp,

    I like Gilly too, she has this charm to her and she seems really warm too, you are right some of the actresses look totally different outside of the show, I think it has to do with the makeup and costume design, Gilly looks totally different in real life.

  73. I’m really hoping we’ll get the chance to see a conversation between Jon and Jorah. He developed a very close relationship with Jeor while serving him and I’m sure Jorah knows Jon carries the sword that was supposed to be his. He knows how badly he disgraced his family and you can tell it’s something he feels terrible about during those brief moments when he mentions them. I think that if he feels any jealousy because of Jon, it has more to do with that. And I’m sure hearing Sam talk about how great Jeor was prior to meeting Jon didn’t help either.

    I’m also sure Dany plays some kind of role in this as well. He always gets jealous when other men come into the picture (poor man lol). But it can’t be easy in this case with Jon basically becoming Jeor’s “replacement” son in his final years.

  74. RhaeTarg,

    All of these Jorah shots look like he’s in a state of self reflection. I think we’ll get a conversation between him and Jon about the old bear 🤞🏼🙂

  75. Ghost’s Lunch,

    I feel confident that the annoying Arya bashing is temporary. She’s playing a Bad Cop role and working with Sansa to dupe and trap and probably kill LF (via a complex strategem that resembles her triumph over the Waif). I speculate that since by now the Pack must work together, probably the Raven that was Bran will contribute some vital information.

  76. Stark Raven’ Rad:
    Ghost’s Lunch,

    I feel confident that the annoying Arya bashing is temporary. She’s playing a Bad Cop role and working with Sansa to dupe and trap and probably kill LF (via a complex strategem that resembles her triumph over the Waif).I speculate that since by now the Pack must work together, probably the Raven that was Bran will contribute some vital information.

    Stark Raven’ Rad,

    I hope you’re right that this is all a ploy by Arya and Sansa, otherwise, it doesn’t make any of them look particularly bright. Which would be frustrating, considering how Sansa is supposed to be an expert at playing the game now and Arya has the skills of a Faceless Man. I really hope we didn’t spend all that time with Arya in Braavos just so she can be easily manipulated by Sansa’s old letter sent from King’s Landing. That would be a shame.

  77. Ten Bears,

    Sansa knows Brienne saw Arya two years ago, but Sansa seems to be suffering from chronic Premature Senioritis. She often forgets things she should tell Jon. Or she does it on purpose, per the BoB. She was certainly aware how much Jon and Arya love each other. Hmmmm. To be fair, he thinks Bran is dead too, even though Sam specifically told him Bran was heading north of the wall three years earlier. But it’s a war-wracked land. Someone, especially a child, surviving on their own anywhere in Westeros for 3 years has poor odds. And Jon doesn’t know Arya was at least traveling with a man then either.

  78. Ghost’s Lunch,

    I feel confident that the annoying Arya bashing is temporary. She’s playing a Bad Cop role and working with Sansa to dupe and trap and probably kill LF (via a complex strategem that resembles her triumph over the Waif). I speculate that since by now the Pack must work together, probably the Raven that was Bran will contribute some vital information.

    Mr Derp,

    That could be genuine because the letter confirms Arya’s suspicions after Ned’s death.

  79. Of course, but I think it shouldn’t take a genius to figure out that Sansa would not have written that letter on her own volition.

    Besides, even if it’s not clear what her intentions were, if Arya can tell when someone is lying, all she has to do is ask Sansa about it then Arya can tell if Sansa is lying or not. Sansa did not write that letter on her own, so a simple conversation between the 2 of them should squash it.

  80. I have to say it again, I don’t like Arya being essentially tacked on to the Sansa-Littlefinger storyline. It doesn’t feel like what she should be doing near the end of her series-long personal, mostly independent (from other majors) development. It’s not the proper environment for the character and perhaps one reason why there’s some flack aimed at such a highly popular fan favorite when there’s usually very little. I can only hope that her inclusion puts an end to it quickly. I looked forward to her reuniting with her family but I’d prefer she head back out on her own over dealing with Littlefinger too much.

  81. I hope when Sandor finds out Jon’s sword has a name he uses that line from ‘Two Swords’ again 🙂

  82. Clob,

    I think the problem with the Winterfell plotline lies soley with Littlefinger, and its been a problem for seasons. I actually think Arya is acting completely in character.
    People say shes acting too dumb since shes a faceless man, but shes a faceless man drop out… She was terrible at it. Shes always been a hot head who will hold onto a grudge till her grave.
    I find her conflict with Sansa completely believable.
    Although the Northern Lords conflict over Jon just going south is strange,

  83. Clob,

    I love Arya and I hope they don’t destroy her character development for forced drama. I have faith that D&D will do right by her and I’ve been immensely enjoying the current season from an entertainment standpoint, however the betrayal of character development for the sake of moving things along has been an unwelcome trend lately in my view.

  84. Mr Derp:
    Of course, but I think it shouldn’t take a genius to figure out that Sansa would not have written that letter on her own volition.

    Besides, even if it’s not clear what her intentions were, if Arya can tell when someone is lying, all she has to do is ask Sansa about it then Arya can tell if Sansa is lying or not.Sansa did not write that letter on her own, so a simple conversation between the 2 of them should squash it.

    Right! This entire story line (if we are to take it at face value) only works IF Sansa and Arya don’t talk to one another, or for some bizarre reason if Sansa lies when confronted by Arya. I just have to assume that these two do talk off screen and are working together, otherwise I feel like both characters are again taking two steps back in their development back to being stupid little girls and I don’t think anyone wants that.

  85. Look, I’m hoping the “Are you scared?” line is Arya actually saying “OK, we just fed Littlefinger to Ghost and Ramsay’s dogs and now we need to go tell the Vale lords. Are you scared?”

    But I’m really afraid they are ginning up this false conflict and it will piss me off.

  86. HelloThere,

    To me, it’s the inconsistency of it. Sometimes it’s clear that she learned a lot from the Faceless Men, and sometimes it’s clear that she hasn’t.

  87. Mr Derp,
    “betrayal of character development for the sake of moving things along has been an unwelcome trend lately in my view”

    With regards to this, the complete and total undermining of Tyrion’s intelligence is something I am almost incapable of swallowing.
    I enjoy the conflicting emotions he has over causing this type of devastation to his home and to his soldiers, but hes been making terrible decisions for two whole seasons now.

  88. Another thing about the inconsistency with Arya…this is a minor nitpick, so i dont really care about it, but it still stood out to me that Arya could never beat the Waif in a fight until the lights were out. However, Arya battled Brienne to a draw. Therefore, either the Waif is the best fighter in the history of Planetos or Arya somehow got better after leaving the Faceless Men.

  89. Anyway, nitpicking aside, I love what I’ve seen for the most part this season and I’m excited for the episodes to come. Have a great weekend all!

  90. Mr Derp,

    You could make a case that the Waif trained Arya, so always had an edge on her. I’m convinced that if Brienne knew what she was in for from the beginning, she’d wipe the floor with Arya.

    Or it would be a Mountain-Viper situation, where the Arya would get shots in, but all it would take was one good hard shot and Arya would be in trouble.

  91. HelloThere:
    Mr Derp,

    I haven’t seen her take anything from the faceless men besides the face changing power.

    Hubert Frey makes the suggestion that she learned poisons. 😛
    Even though we mostly just saw her get her ass whipped with a staff, we can say that most of her fighting ability came from there. She should be able to read people by their face – as I think she was doing with Sansa. She should also be able to “see” in the dark.

    Part of the problem was the show limiting what we saw of her training. As I’ve written before, I really, really wish they’d have at least added in her learning languages. If she ever meets Daenerys I wanted her to speak to her in Valyrian. If they do meet and she can speak it then it will come out of nowhere now.

  92. Clob,

    “She should be able to read people by their face ”
    She can to a certain extent, but she was terrible @ being a faceless man. And then she dropped out.

    Honestly, Im not entirely a fan of this Winterfell plot, and I feel like its just barely holding together, but I think it works enough at least from the Stark sisters side.
    The idea of Littlefinger making sense has sailed seasons ago.

  93. Mr Derp,

    The whole part of her training beginning in season 6 she lost use of her eyes, she did everything blind for like 3 or four episodes to show the development and then she surprised the waif when she cut the lights out for the kill. I thought it was believable and I thought it was a clever payoff from the prior episodes.

  94. I want the Hound and Tormund to become best friends. I can’t wait to watch them interact! 🙂

    I have to be honest-I’m not enjoying Arya/Sansa team up so far. Seeing all the glaring in the pics and no Bran doesn’t really make me look forward to it either.
    Also Tyrion looks miserable in every picture-so let’s go back to Dany surrounded by her dragons in previous pics. That was an album cover of awesome.

    Oh and is it weird for anyone else to see Jon and Beric chatting in those pics? Just two guys revived by the lord of light for some reason-nothing to see here! lol

  95. I also think that Arya’s training with Syrio Ferrel helped in terms of needle, styles makes fights as they say in the combat sport world, but Arya’s style would be hard to deal with (not impossible to defeat) for anyone that uses a two-handed broadsword or even a one handed broadsword because of the speed and weight difference, it would be hard to hit someone that small and fast and skilled.

  96. For everyone here, if you were part of the 7 going beyond the wall, what would be your weapon of choice. It can be made from any material, and it can come from any weapons family. You get a primary weapon and a sub-weapon. I would choose a repeating cross-bow with valyrian tipped arrows and a valyrian war mace, and I would have Valyrian armor and helmet…lol.

  97. Manny K:
    For everyone here, if you were part of the 7 going beyond the wall, what would be your weapon of choice.It can be made from any material, and it can come from any weapons family.You get a primary weapon and a sub-weapon.I would choose a repeating cross-bow with valyrian tipped arrows and a valyrian war mace, and I would have Valyrian armor and helmet…lol.

    I’d choose dual wielding Valyrian daggers with tons of dragonglass throwing stars in easy reach. 🙂 Also wouldn’t mind Valyrian armor and flame thrower for the large crowds.
    I know…there are no flame throwers in Westeros. Fine. I want a dragon.

  98. RG,

    Hahahaha, yeah Drogon is the Daddy of all flame throwers my friend, but I like the dragon glass throwing stars, I never thought of that.

  99. Mike,

    I hope he does, he would do nicely beyond the wall, he could camouflage with all the snow and sneak attack the wights.

  100. Clob:
    I have to say it again, I don’t like Arya being essentially tacked on to the Sansa-Littlefinger storyline.It doesn’t feel like what she should be doing near the end of her series-long personal, mostly independent (from other majors) development.It’s not the proper environment for the character and perhaps one reason why there’s some flack aimed at such a highly popular fan favorite when there’s usually very little.I can only hope that her inclusion puts an end to it quickly.I looked forward to her reuniting with her family but I’d prefer she head back out on her own over dealing with Littlefinger too much.

    Clob, I emphatically agree. But IMO D&D had to give us reunions by now, especially the Wolves (per Ned’s saying), and the petty politics Game has to cease so S8 could mostly focus on the grim, gritty and spectacular tale of the Living defeating the risen Dead. And it is important that the Sisters (+ Raven-Bran?) are finally taking down the greatest enemy House Stark has ever had. (You may recall my theory that LF is guilty of many offenses against the Starks which haven’t officially come to light and may never do). But how they’re doing it is opaque and a crime against Arya’s character. Perhaps knowing this, they gave her a heroic and successful 4 episodes (and Maisie herself achieved a five-wicket haul in them!). But that buffer hasn’t kept fickle fans who haven’t a clue as to what’s really going on from turning on Arya. She’s Bad Cop for now, and until the denouement of their Winterfell strategem occurs (Ep 7?), she’s just not going to look good. Our patience is required. There are currently threads on Reddit where SanSTans and others are saying that in SEason 1 Arya (11YO then!) should have understood why Sansa was with Cersei when Ned died and that she is an immature idiot not to now realise that Sansa wrote that letter under duress. Bollocks! Robb himself believed the letter until Catelyn explained Sansa’s situation to him. (FWIW, Arya got roundly criticised last year about being idiotic in Braavos. Even now, hardly anyone realises that once she spared Lady Crane and had to leave, Arya planned everything that happened other than the severity of her inevitable wounds. I predict the audience will forgive her when all is revealed after LF dies (or leaves). But unless D&D clearly show the girls planned and executed their ploy together,, the subtlety will go over some fans’ heads.

    Mr Derp,

    Yes, even if Arya believed it to begin with, she’ll recognise Sansa is being honest… But she can’t show that because they have to assume PB or a paid minion is somehow monitoring what they say to each other. So expect to see fireworks, though they’re likely to be histrionic and not real.

    Your insight about the Waif always beating her is on point. The Waif had doubtless been using quarterstaf for years–it was probably her chosen weapon. Arya could have handily beaten her with sword or archery. All the more reason that for the kill Arya she had to lure the Waif to that dark lair where the pointy end would prevail.

    viki,

    Viki, they’ve probably already talked offscreen. Why does Arya walk in just before the end of that meeting? Why do they start their argument out in the hall and leave the chamber door open? For that matter–this is a stretch–why does Arya strut her swordfighting stuff in the the courtyard while Sansa and LF traverse the balcony and see it? This could all be coincidence or even D&D rushing things, but more likely–The game’s afoot!

  101. Maybe because Brienne told Sansa that she had seen Arya years before… she was last seen in Westeros in Season 4… and if GoT teaches us anything it is that a LOT of shit can go down in that amount of time! It would be an easy assumption that after years of absence, in a war torn country that she would come to a grisly end

    Edit- sorry this was supposed to reply to one of the comments about Jon talking about Arya being dead even though Brienne had told Sansa that she had seen her… not sure why it didn’t link!

  102. After Eastwatch I was hoping that Sansa and Arya were working together to undermine Littlefinger. Putting on a show of sibling rivalry to draw him out into the open.

    That still might be the case. But looking at these photos I have to say that the look on Sansa’s face in all of them unnerves me.

    She doesn’t look happy or comfortable at all. In fact, she looks kinda scared.

    And I’m not down for Sansa feeling scared at Winterfell after Season 5. Fix it, D&D.

    With Bran the inadvertent emotional trauma trigger and now Arya appearing to do her best Ramsay Bolton impression, saying creepy things in threateningly hushed tones, I think Sansa’s got to be wishing Jon was still there pretty badly now.

  103. Ten Bears:
    Dead Dane Walking,

    …..” GOD I really am tired of hearing LF’s annoying voice!!! Don’t get me wrong – I find his acting superb and that’s why it makes me physically feel the hate towards a nonexistent fictional character – but I want him dead…like NOW!

    Time is too precious to waste another minute on LF spewing gibberish like some cheap dime store Sun Tzu. There are so many rich opportunities for great dialog between the seven adversaries-turned-allies on a mission from god, that it would be a shame to have to sit through yet another repetitious scene ofSnidely Whiplash trying to manipulate the Stark sisters to turn on each other. (I could easily watch an entire episode of Tormund and the Hound comparing their techniques for gnawing on drumsticks.)

    Thank you…me like SOOO much!! It appears I’m not alone 😉 The next article where this theme fits into a context, I’ll be right there and hoping you will too, Too-many-bears-because-anything-above-ten-is-magic!! 😀

    Give me the alcoholics Sandor and Thoros bitching about wine or possibly the lack of the same, and Jon with Jorah about Dany and hopefully Sam…then I’ll be SO centent with S7E6!!

  104. Hodors Bastard: Hah! I wonder what Sam’s reaction will be. Now we need a hypothetical scene where Gendry tells Jon that his father killed Jon’s real father on the battlefield. Mix in Dany over dinner, rehashing what her father did to Jon’s grandfather and uncle and what she did to Sam’s family, that’ll be the best convo ever! How Jon stays cool (family killed by Lannisters, Baratheons and Targs) is beyond me. His ignorance is bliss! Best ride V far away and brood.

    The Magnificent Seven indeed! A treasure trove of bittersweet stories between them!

    H.B. – that comment alone finally convinced me, we’re watching a show utterly derived of common sense!! And yet we all love it 🙂

  105. Dead Dane Walking: we’re watching a show utterly derived of common sense!! And yet we all love it

    Lol…was that “derived” or “devoid”? 🙂

    I must admit that I tend to be one of the annoying nitpickers but I rather enjoy the half-empty, half-full diversity (twice as many perspectives, twice as much fun!). I wouldn’t come here if I didn’t expect it to be a bit more positive than other sites I roam. (Sshh! I’m even a PJ fan, which usually gets one eviscerated here!) Although I may not join in the cheering as loudly as you, DS, J and others, I am quite thankful for the opportunity to have an adaptation of the books that I began reading in 2001. Believe it or not, they actually lifted me up from personal tragedy.

  106. 🙂 Oh boy, dear unknown son of Hodor – Although I didn’t start commenting until this spring, I’ve followed this site for a couple of years now – and by now I am pretty much aware of who the “Nits” are…and you’re not one of them! Now and then our opinoins differ for sure, BUT since you almost always bring an angle worthy of discussion for other fans…unlike a real Nit-picker! 😉

  107. Oops – missed the last few words: “BUT since you almost always bring an angle worthy of discussion for other fans…unlike a real Nit-picker” …you’re good! 😉

  108. Hodors Bastard: Believe it or not, they actually lifted me up from personal tragedy.

    So good to hear! Speaking of that..I’d bet this is not a similar story for the few, but for the many… When this is all over, I truly hope there will be ph.d’s made about the GoT-impact on society through a decade… Surely this show has “saved a coulple of souls”!

  109. Dead Dane Walking,

    Thx for the kind words, DDW. At my virtual office, Mondays during GoT season are known as MWDs (minimal work days) because of the round table discussions. Heck, after “The Door” in S6, we had to declare a virtual day of mourning. While books 1-3 affected me specifically, the show has affected many lives, the bar scene, businesses and brought many together. I went to a wedding last year for a couple that met watching S2’s “Blackwater” at my place…and they’re threatening to name their upcoming kid Nym or Pod! 🙂 But yeah, there are stories galore…I’m sure we’ll hear many on both sides of the polarity spectrum. Cheers!

  110. Hodors Bastard:
    Dead Dane Walking,

    Thx for the kind words, DDW. At my virtual office, Mondays during GoT season are known as MWDs (minimal work days) because of the round table discussions. Heck, after “The Door” in S6, we had to declare a virtual day of mourning. While books 1-3 affected me specifically, the show has affected many lives, the bar scene, businesses and brought many together. I went to a wedding last year for a couple that met watching S2’s “Blackwater” at my place…and they’re threatening to name their upcoming kid Nym or Pod! But yeah, there are stories galore…I’m sure we’ll hear many on both sides of the polarity spectrum. Cheers!

    See what I mean?! 🙂 …You’re not a trueborn nitpicker, as they would never post good stories about GoT’s impact on our real lives outside the books and screen – really enjoyed that insight into your office life on Mondays…it’s used to be pretty much the same in my case, but in GoT-season I tend to work from home the day after, since it aires at 3 AM in my country (and NO – waiting until Monday evening is not an option!)

    Lastly: Your welcome to flick the ears of your friends if they proceed with the Nym or Pod! 😀 …Although it would be a great tribute to the best show ever made, the kid is bound to share it with at lot of kids from 2011-2018, I’m sure!

  111. Jared:

    Kay:

    I wholeheartedly agree with both of you 🙂

    I’m looking forward to the entire episode – whether its Magnificent 7, WW action, Dany/Tyrion or Winterfell!

    I’m especially curious about what Beric and Jon are talking about: Beric has been ressurected like a zillion times; Jon hasn’t met and likely doesn’t know that anyone else has had this experience, and I think that he hasn’t been able to deal with his own ressurection, or at least process this experience. So, I hope that Beric might help him with that.
    And of course I’m excited about any scenes between the members of this group, they are all so interesting, and each with their own stories and personal thoughts to share with the others and about any new bromances that might be created out of this ‘mission impossible’!

    {(Taking a moment to appreciate Ser Jorah pics … sigh)}

    I’m also curious about how things will unfold at Winterfell. Arya’s words in combo with these pics almost made me worry. But I still can’t believe that Arya’s training was useless. They show us Arya suddenly starting to spy LF while her training would urge her to spy him from the 1st second she saw him – and if she did that she would be a step ahead of him, before he put his scheaming with that Sansa paper at work. I’m looking forward to see what happens.

    As for Dany, I’m rather curious if she’ll stay at Dragonstone playing the good lady of the house waiting for the Magnificent 7 to return, or if she’ll take some kind of action in between.

    Lastly, my hype levels match my worry levels about the WW vs Magnificent 7 action. I can’t wait to see it, and at the same time I’m so worried about my favourite characters that I don’t know how I’ll be able to see it! 😀 Fingers crossed and tissues handy – and may the Gods, old and new, be with them!

  112. SiriuslyStark,

    There is still a chance Arya is a moron. It’s not like she’s been an assassin for years. Plus, the whole point of “A girl is no one” is that you leave behind silly sibling resentments that cloud judgement and leave you open to people like Littlefinger.

    Arya didn’t do that. I’m more nervous about this story being ridiculous than any other

  113. I just thought of something, maybe this has been answered before, but you know how Benjen said that the dead can’t pass through the wall because of ancient spells, I was just wondering if that would apply to the wight that John fought in Season 1? They thought that he was dead so they bought him into the castle and he reanimated and tried to kill him and Commander Mormont. I wonder how that wight was able to pass the wall, and also if they capture a wight to try to convince the people of Westeros that they exist, how would they get it past the wall?

  114. AHello. I am really looking to seeing more of the HOund , actually. I am really liking his redemption arc and I hope he can become a point of view character in the books. I was always more fascinated with characters who redeem themselves over time. I also hope Jaime can pull away from Cersei but the season is almost over so who knows anymore. Jaime really has come so far and now he is just stuck. I am trying to understand Arya so far this season. She is either playing along with Sansa, or Petyr found her weakness. We know how loyal to Jon she is, and I think she is correctly reading Sansa as enjoying power. But this isn’t the Sansa from season 1, I don’t think Arya fully grasps that, and she could be focusing on Sansa enjoying her role. Since all of the Starks are starting to come together, I don’t believe that Sansa and LIttle Finger are separate entities and Arya should be involved in more important things. They are the wolves of Winterfell, and that includes Sansa and they need to come together. I think their relationship or Arya’s future role in the war to come can even progress until this happens.

  115. Worfwworfington:

    There is still a chance Arya is a moron. It’s not like she’s been an assassin for years. Plus, the whole point of “A girl is no one” is that you leave behind silly sibling resentments that cloud judgement and leave you open to people like Littlefinger.
    Arya didn’t do that. I’m more nervous about this story being ridiculous than any other

    Anyone can be a moron, Worf. But Arya is not and never was, though of course she has made mistakes. Her worst was miscalculating the gravity of the wounds she would inevitably receive before she could bolt over the parapet of that bridge in Braavos. But her dangerous and complex plan to escape the FM without reprisal succeeded anyway. And it was genius to infiltrate the Twins and make mincemeat of the three main perpetrators of the Red Wedding, and then to cap that by discerningly eliminating the remainder of the guilty Freys. Give credit where it’s due.

    Everyone can be bested by the best. There’s no shame in that for anybody (especially one so young). Perhaps you don’t recall the mentions on WotW of what D&D said on Inside the Episode: “Arya is very used to being more clever and more stealthy than any of the people she’s up against. She hasn’t dealt with Littlefinger for a while so she gets roped into actually spying on somebody who’s leading her by the nose…” LF has decades of experience outplaying the best, even Varys… AND Cersei, Tywin, and Olenna. Arya is very good, good enough to be in his weight class. But still maturing and newly back home, she’s naturally unaware that he’s a Muhammad Ali who can float like a butterfly and sting like a bee. As to her ‘silly’ resentment, it’s actually a reasonable suspicion based on vivid memories of Sansa’s proclivities to treachery for the months we saw them together in Season 1. It would indeed have been silly had Arya come home and immediately trusted Sansa heart and soul. And Sansa’s own responses are somewhat questionable. IMO Sansa does want power and title, but won’t betray Jon. Arya must ascertain that. Arya also rightly trusts Bran and Brienne.

    I agree about this subplot; even more melodrama is likely to come in Ep. 6. But our two heroes Arya and Sansa are playing a game against arch-villain LF, and together they will outplay him. It’s all bound to conclude in Episode 7, with two very opposite sisters (and Bran?) seeing eye-to-eye and taking him down. They don’t know it (yet?), but he’s the conniver probably behind almost everything bad that’s happened to Starks since Robert’s Rebellion started. That is worthwhile, despite the imbroglio Winterfell has been.

  116. Worfwworfington:

    Yeap, this could very well happen, as you say, she may well let her judgement be clouded! But it would be a great dissapoinment concerning her arc – yes in that regard this story can end up being very dissapointing!

    (I’m not sure who mentioned it, but I just remembered reading a debate on this matter so: Arya did learn about poisons when she was blind, she can actually tell the ingredients just by smelling them! )

    I hope that they won’t let Arya’s arc fade to that, it would be a great shame, after all that we seen her get through while training! There must be a pay off for all that, this training must be useful for the main plot, or else it was just a big waste of time! 🙂

    Stark Raven’ Rad:

    Well said! It’s very close to my views on the matter! 🙂

    Manny K:
    I just thought of something, maybe this has been answered before, but you know how Benjen said that the dead can’t pass through the wall because of ancient spells, I was just wondering if that would apply to the wight that John fought in Season 1?They thought that he was dead so they bought him into the castle and he reanimated and tried to kill him and Commander Mormont.I wonder how that wight was able to pass the wall, and also if they capture a wight to try to convince the people of Westeros that they exist, how would they get it past the wall?

    They burned the dead so they would avoid exactly that from happening. I think simple wights can pass the wall, but they can’t do that without their leader the NK: it is he who mobilizes them even from a distance.

    I think it’s the NK that can’t go near or pass the Wall as it is protected by spells and also his children the Whitewalkers who are different than the wights – like the Craster babies who were turned alive to Whitewalkers with magic.
    Wights and Whitewalkers are not the same. The first can be killed with fire or dragonglass, but the latter only with dragonglass. At least this is what I think!

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