Trump Goes Game of Thrones; HBO Says Not Today!

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We don’t get into real-world political discussion here much, as Westerosi politics are complicated enough, but Donald Trump made that unavoidable when the American president referenced Game of Thrones today on social media. In an attempt to make sanctions seem cool, or whatever he was going for. Anyway, it looks HBO didn’t take lightly to use of their official font, and a few stars of the show also made their displeasure known.

Entertainment Weekly got an official response from HBO on the matter: “We were not aware of this messaging and would prefer our trademark not be misappropriated for political purposes.” They were slightly snarkier on Twitter.

The show’s talented performers had their own, more straight-forward replies to Trump’s artwork.

And of course, George RR Martin himself has never made his dislike of Trump a secret; he replied with a famous quote of his, and a more important message.

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    1. Shane snow:
      Lol people use the font and saying for stuff all the time. It’s juat the dislike of trump

      Yeah, exactly. That and his politics. That’s rather the point. And I am so very proud and happy this stand was made.

      Also, I love the reference made by using the quote both Maisie and Miltos did.

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    2. Oh, give me a friggin’ break! That font is all over the Google Play Store, and it is FREE. It is not trademarked. I use it in memes all the time.

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    3. If I could go one fucking day without having to see American political snarking everywhere I turn, it’d be the happiest day of my life.

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    4. Pigeon,

      Seriously. Its both sides. I can’t go one day without Trump saying something dumb and I can’t go 2 seconds without every website calling Trump a Nazi and every other name in the book. It’s all so dramatic.

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    5. John:
      Pigeon,

      Seriously.Its both sides.I can’t go one day without Trump saying something dumb and I can’t go 2 seconds without every website calling Trump a Nazi and every other name in the book.It’s all so dramatic.

      Yup. It’s a no-win. I can’t even go on my British television series Facebook pages without someone making it about U.S. politics. And I can only watch so many cat videos….😉

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    6. I can’t believe our president is such a clown… We need a real life Tywin to put him to bed before he tweets some more nonsense. What’s really sad, is he has the same personality as Joff did in that scene with his “I AM THE KING!!!” Can’t you see Trump saying the same dumb shit to his cabinet???

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    7. Pigeon,

      Eliminating that thing occupying the white house and the rest of American politics from your life is not impossible. I was starting and finishing every day mad as hell and fuming over Mr. T…urd because of all the crap on the news and my social feeds. I was sick of it. So when it was elected I made the decision to change. I realized I was bringing all that negativity in. I was making that choice. It was completely in my control to stop. So I did. Since it was inaugurated on 1/20/17 I haven’t watched the local or national news (besides the weather). I signed off facebook and the rest of my social. One of my best moves ever!!! I don’t miss any of it. Yes, I’ll sign in briefly to catch up with a friend but once I do, I’m off asap. I will admit I did go through withdrawals which for me manifested as the compulsive reaching for my phone to check my feeds. But the fact that my arm was reaching for that phone on its own just pissed me off and made me want to conquer it that much more. Now the chains are off and guess what I found…TIME!!! Unfortunately time is something of which you only have so much, use it wisely. I share because I care.😉
      However, I do keep up with Watchers on the Wall because…well…let’s be honest…GoT is all that really matters anyway.
      S8 bitches!!!!

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    8. Aegon the IceDragon:
      I can’t believe our president is such a clown…We need a real life Tywin to put him to bed before he tweets some more nonsense.What’s really sad, is he has the same personality as Joff did in that scene with his “I AM THE KING!!!”Can’t you see Trump saying the same dumb shit to his cabinet???

      Yes, but he made America grate again. Seriously, when I was in the UK, several of my mates had, er, lively discussions with me about which was worse and over-emphasised: Trump or Brexit. Both were despised.

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    9. Well, if Trump wants to image himself as a GoT character, Joffrey would be a good choice? There’s not much different between them both being assholes! The question is – who will pass him the poisoned chalice!

      I’m really surprised that so far no one has taken a pop at him! Seem to recall that someone in the secret service got reprimanded after Trump got elected saying they wouldn’t take a bullet trying to protect him. Something on the lines its the position of being president one has to safeguard and not the person who holds that position! Strange – as I thought they would both be the same 🙂

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    10. Ah, and as for that despicable woman Theresa May, there was stuff on Facebook about minting a £50 coin after Brexit with her head on it. My comment was the only place I would like to see her head was served up on a silver salver 😀

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    11. “Do you know who I am?” [Punctures Big Mac-stuffed liver]. “I can’t hear you. Do you know who I am? I’m Arya Stark. Do you know who you are? You’re no one. You’re nothing.”

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    12. “Where are my damn moron sons? Eric and Don Jr. promised to be here by midday.”

      “They’re here my lord.”

      “What are they doing, trimming their hair transplants? Tell them to come here. Now.”

      “But they’re already here my lord. HERE, my lord. They weren’t easy to carve. Especially Don Jr.”

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    13. Thank you GRRM, but if I can add one small thing to your comment I’ll say this:

      Donald Trump is the Antichrist.

      There. I finally said it publicly.

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    14. I’m a huge fan of both the books and series and this isn’t my first time commenting, the sanctions that are coming are for my country and they are very serious and scary for the public, so seeing Trump announce something so horrible for us by using my favorite show’s trademark was disappointing, so I’m really happy HBO, GRRM and the cast spoke up, and thank you WotW for posting this, this may not mean much to most people but it somehow made my day ❤️

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    15. Free or not, it’s a font they created and they have every right to react when someone uses it like that. In simpler words, it’s not about copyright, it’s about them not wanting to be in any way associated with that human piece of sh*t. By the way, my reaction was exactly the same as Sophie’s. This has to be the most cringeworthy thing I’ve seen in a long while.

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    16. Ten Bears:
      “Where are my damn moron sons? Eric and Don Jr. promised to be here by midday.”

      “They’re here my lord.”

      “What are they doing, trimming their hair transplants? Tell them to come here. Now.”

      “But they’re already here my lord. HERE, my lord. They weren’t easy to carve. Especially Don Jr.”

      LOL!

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    17. Jack Hamm,

      Doesn’t make a whole lot of sense though. You kind of have to read something to know whether it’s quality content or not. It’s only after having read it that criticism is even legitimate.

      It’s just like when people say “if you don’t like X then don’t watch it”. Yeah, well I have to watch it to know whether I like it or not, don’t I ?

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    18. Mango:
      Luis, thanks hon!I am with GRRM & HBO on this…..

      Just explain this post that I made last night:

      A poster named “Luis Rey” came at me last night because of my first post on this page. His “brass knuckles” rage-fuelled post had to be taken down. Before I saw that the moderator has removed it, I had already replied with civility. I wish him well.

      Just to say, I love the humorous line that the discussion has now taken.

      Ten Bears, lol!!

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    19. Spryte,

      Yes, let’s not let anyone be critical in any way. Should everyone just fawn over every article ?

      I don’t think it’s “out-of-touch” for people to want their entertainment news websites to be politics-free. A lot of people turn to entertainment to escape real world issues.

      I personally have no issue with this article, and anything that has to do with mocking Trump is fun to me, but some fans may not share our political sensibilities. They may want to just enjoy a Game of Thrones website without real world political issues being discussed.

      Even if they also dislike Trump, they may just not find it fun to discuss this kind of stuff in this forum. They may find it too real and depressing to be escapist.

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    20. To say the truth, I don’t get the point of this outrage. People have been making GOT themed political memes and references for years now. For instance, one of political parties of my country made an election ad based on GOT opening credits some three years ago, and this particular “Sanctions are comming” meme appeared around 2014, when sanctions were introduced against Russia for attacking Ukraine. So, although HBO or GRRM or Sophie & Maise may not like the current President of the United States, GOT-themed political memes and references have become such a widespread phenomemon, that it’s not fair to start shanging rules in the middle of the game. And it’s not like HBO has been unhappy about this phemomenon overall: there were so many reports that politicians accross the world watch GOT – including Putin (sic!) and that members of the British royal family were asking about the return of Jon Snow, etc. Sure, things like that give them publicity and encourage even those who are not into tits and dragons to watch their show. So, all in all HBO benefits from all these political references and therefore they have to live with the fact that some of these references and memes will be made by people they dislike (as well as with the fact that some or even a good portion of the show fans may not share their political views).

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    21. Nick20, good points.

      Generally, I do not click on articles about prizes and competitions as I hate these topics. Maybe others could try this to avoid some topics. If you do not wish to engage on politics then I would suggest that you skip clicking on any articles that the heading contains a politician’s name. This is a big hint that politics may be inside. Luckily for us, there are several interesting other articles on the site to engage on. Sue and her team work hard to keep things varied.

      Second suggestion: Do not agitate yourself further by posting on a topic that you hate to discuss. If you read it by accident, save further distress by closing it immediately and avoid posting.

      I hope my suggestions are helpful. I hate the Funko pop and Omaze prize articles. These two suggestions have worked for me.

      This article is perfectly legit for a discussion here – GOT symbols have been invoked. This not only the “font” but the phrasing is “GOT recognisable”. GRRM and the cast have engaged. Fully legit for a GOT site.

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    22. dragonreborn:
      lol great post. how can you stay out of it if all the stars and hbo are involved

      Agreed. The site reports when the cast weighs in on a topic. It’s not like the post was making inflammatory statements.

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    23. Inga,

      Just checking that you put the correct link. I watched the entire thing and it had nothing that reminded me of GOT. No symbols. No font. No music. Nada. I would never think of GOT after watching it. I vaguely thought of Monopoly the board game.

      It was not in English so maybe that was my failure. Perhaps the GOT actors would also have missed it. HBO corporate may have been aware of it but maybe the market for this language was perhaps not large enough to issue a public response. If they believe there was infringement, HBO can also elect to simply have their lawyers write to the offenders. May that is all that they did here?

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    24. Mango,

      Indeed, language and culture barrier saves from problems sometimes:) And sure, some God-forgotten Lithuania is not worth a public response, although HBO has introduced its sreeming services here recently:) However, it doesn’t change the fact that GOT-themed political references (and commercials) have been circling all around Europe (and I assume the States) for many ears now, and if HBO has given a pass to so many of them, it’s a bit too late to make a fuss now.

      And if HBO really intends to make a fuss, it should issue a global list of politicians and/or political and other organizations and/or individuals not entitled to use GOT fonts or references or watch GOT per se. I hope HBO is not moving towards that direction.

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    25. Spryte:
      Sue the Fury,

      Awesome! Stay true to your reporting and don’t let these out-of-touch whiners cause any dismay.

      Agreed. This is news related to the show and it would be wrong for this site to just ignore it for fear of offending a few snowflakes.

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    26. Inga,

      Yep. And sometimes the only reason for this reaction among them is because President Orange Man said/did it. If it was any other politician or person they couldn’t care less, as you pointed out.

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    27. This celebrity thing is very bad all over. In the USA, a TV celebrity was elected President about two years ago. Large numbers of folks seemed particularly awe-struck by this TV personality.

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    28. Flora: Maybe you can help me with 2008? I am unclear on that.

      2008 and 1980 elected persons based on previous public service. They both were telegenic, that I agree.

      2008 – The person elected served as a Senator, community organizer and was a constitutional lawyer. He was elected based on public service. His major problem at the start of his campaign was being still unknown to most of the electorate.

      1980 – The person elected was a Governor of California for 1967-75 that was elected on the basis of his record of public service. He was also a trade union leader. Yes, he was an actor previously so he was known to older folks that remembered his career.

      Do you see the difference? Public service can make you a celebrity and lead to a high office. Using celebrity to get elected by the naive to the highest office is a different path.

      As for being ok, you know the saying, In the long run, we are all dead anyway.

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    29. What some of you are saying essentially boils down to this:

      GRRM shut up and write.
      HBO/GoT producers just shut up and make entertainment.
      Maisie and Sophie shut up and act.
      Lebron James shut up and dribble oops i digress

      I’m old enough to remember people attempting to muzzle the Dixie Chicks for speaking out about Bush in the lead up to the war in Iraq. We all have our convictions. Why call for censorship on anyone? Believe in the marketplace of ideas.

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    30. Mango,

      Yes he was governor, but Reagan’s career as an actor and Hollywood celebrity is what people tend to remember of him before his political career, and being president only.

      Obama was a newcomer senator who caught the attention of the media, and its coverage of him, and later endorsements by Hollywood types like Oprah made him a household name.

      And I agree, we’ll all be dead eventually. 😉

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    31. Mango: Using celebrity to get elected by the naive to the highest office is a different path.

      It’s naive to assume that Trump’s celebrity played any major part in him winning the Presidency when it came down to it. If any Republican politician had had the cojones to campaign the way Trump did, they probably would’ve produced similar results.

      Much of Trump’s support was garnered during the primary, due to the way he swatted aside all the establishment Republican politicians, the so-called RINOs, by highlighting their weakness in character and policy.

      You’ve gotta have a pretty low opinion of people to assume that voters in places like, for example, Pennsylvania and Ohio voted for him because he’s that guy off The Apprentice rather than his tough talking and pledges regarding trade and industry.

      And he surely achieved no more support based on name recognition alone than Clinton did. She had pretty much the entire entertainment industry and media lionising her.

      Even if you didn’t know a single one of Clinton’s policies, you’d certainly be led to believe that she was the more popular candidate and the one that all the cool and smart and decent people were supposed to vote for.

      Even if we accept that Trump’s celebrity aided his popularity, it’s hard to argue that it was any more so than Clinton’s.

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    32. I try to avoid talking politics but I found it slightly offensive to see Trump using the GOT branding for his latest message. The guys is at the very least divisive, possibly the most hated US president in recent history I hope HBO take appropriate action.

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    33. Ramsay, just to acknowledge your mention of my post. Thanks.

      This is a wonderful world – some many different types of people and such different value systems and views of decency.

      It is a wonderful time to be alive.

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    34. Guess he won’t be getting the advance copies that President Obama did. Maybe they’ll still give them to the Obama’s. 😂

      Thanks, WotW, GoT cast, and HBO! It’s important to speak out against tyranny in any form and in any forum. Everyone on this side of the pond: remember to VOTE on Tuesday!🌊

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    35. Ashara D:
      Guess he won’t be getting the advance copies that President Obama did. Maybe they’ll still give them to the Obama’s. 😂

      Thanks, WotW, GoT cast, and HBO! It’s important to speak out against tyranny in any form and in any forum. Everyone on this side of the pond: remember to VOTE on Tuesday!🌊

      Probably won’t get the cameo George W did, either. 😜

      Always always always vote! Sophie, Maisie and Miltos can talk, but they can’t vote. My American friends can, so do! 🙂

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    36. Barbie,
      Barbie,

      Please do not use the word true leader in association with that naricisstic, selfish, cruel, gaslighting, farce of “leader”

      His supporters often(nee always) complain about how the press misrepresent him, but simply reading and hearing his direct words via his tweets and his rallies/speeches is enough to know he has manipulated and deceived a portion of our country into thinking he was the answer to help them fight back against the “horrible liberals”

      He cares not for you, for your family, for your state or for this country. He cares only for one thing and that is himself and his own self interests and vanity and he would have zero issue letting the country and world burn to stroke his own decades old inherited and inflated ego.

      Do have a good day though and I wish you and your family only health, happiness, and prosperity, which is always and can always be acheived without being at the expense of others.

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    37. ArmsBendBack,

      Dude, chill. This is Orange Man we’re talking about, not Mao, Pol Pot or Stalin.

      Politicians and celebrities aren’t supposed to care about us anyway.

      Pigeon:

      Probably won’t get the cameo George W did, either.

      They should have kept the cameo. Probably should have added H. W. Bush as an extra cameo in the DVD.

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    38. Flora Linden:

      Dude, chill. This is Orange Man we’re talking about, not Mao, Pol Pot or Stalin.

      Politicians and celebrities aren’t supposed to care about us anyway.

      Keep minimizing if it helps you. Others may perceive the current situation differently. For many the stakes have never been higher.

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    39. Sunfyre,

      No worries, I’m not minimizing anything. I actually agree with you. But with people on all sides floating around in stupid, it’s hard to tell what’s what anymore.

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    40. Sunfyre,

      Oh, no problem, thanks for your reply. This comment thread has been fun to read, so many opinions. You’re right, these things can get heated, especially with elections coming up. I’m getting ready for Tuesday too. 🙂

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    41. Yes, please vote!
      It’s a chance, not a burden.
      Not to vote means not to value democracy. Our ancestors worked hard for it for very long time.
      And please don’t hostile each other, talk and discuss – and than vote, hopefully not the wrong.
      I’m looking forward worrying from outside, what will happen in good ol’ America?
      And what would it mean for the whole world?

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    42. Pretty damn ironic. The president of the United States, who always shouts about that Hollywood can’t be trusted, that they only share fake news and are to get him (Which they are for good reasons in my opinion but that’s not the point). That president is using a way to gain voters by sharing the font of one of the most watched Hollywood shows of all time.

      Pretty damn pathetic in my opinion.

      As for the politics, I don’t really care who they are going to vote. It’s always a right wing party in America (Democrats progressive right and Republicans Conservative right). So real change isn’t really going to happen. Good luck with voting America.

      Barbie Campbell,

      I don’t really care if Trump gets elected or not. But if you going to have an opinion, don’t share fake news. Trumps approval rates is lower today then the time he won the election. And even then he had one of the lowest approval rates of a winning president. He even got lower numbers than the previous Republican who lost against Obama. The only reason he is in office is not because of himself but because the people who normally voted for the Democrat party, decided to stay home because they were angry that the DP chose Hilary over Bernie. So don’t thank Trump and the Republican voters for him winning, but thank the Bernie voters that stayed home last election.

      We will have to see if they will show up next season on “American Election” the world biggest reality show. Starting next week on CNN and FOX.

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    43. Pigeon,

      For what it’s worth, I just got back from early voting a little while ago. (I hate waiting in lines on Election Day.) Usually, I’m in and it in fifteen minutes. This time, the lines snaked around the building and it took over two hours to get inside.

      People are energized. I guess we’ll know Tuesday if Putin flies in for his coronation, or the electorate went in the other direction.

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    44. Ten Bears,

      Good! Sometimes the truest way of speaking is with a ballot. GRRM had the best reaction in that regard, by reminding people how positive change can be made and people heard.

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    45. Totally concur, Inga (& Flora, & Mau.) Wonder how many other areas have also introduced mail-in ballots this year? I love it, but can’t imagine what took so long.

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    46. I am not American and if I were I would certainly not have voted for Donald Trump because he is the embodiment of everything I hate. Plus, he is a clown.
      BUT. The Americans that did vote, voted for him. Just like the Brits voted for Brexit. What kind of a democracy do you stand for when you cannot accept that sometimes you may loose and a twat may be elected. Plus, what do you expect when you decide to not get involved at all, as many of the commentors say. Does that mean you don’t vote either?I know quite a few Americans, just as I know quite a few Brits, that did not bother to vote and now they lament the result. Well, you know something? You deserve what you get. Next time go vote, and maybe you will like better the result (although, I must admit that I have never lost a vote since I was 18, and very rarely was I happy with the result…). Until then, that man is President, and you’d better show some respect, if not to him (certainly not to him) then to the institution.
      And, concerning WoTW: you got some pretty crazed reactions here, from that Barbie doll (or maybe Barbie troll?) to a guy who wonders why there hasn’t been an attempt on Trump’s life so far. The message is, dear site administrators, venturing into politics isn’t worth it. Especially when all you have to go with is two words from two Brits, a Cypriot (is he a Brit too? I am not sure) and one American on instagram or twitter or whatever. Even if you try to be objective about it (although combining the story with a pic of Joffrey is far from objective). I don’t mean to say that you don’t have the right to post what you want. It is just that then you have to contain all the ugliness that ensues.

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    47. I understand it’s reported when stars of the show talk about different things but if you usually stay out of politics then why post. It’s clear what the comments are going to turn into. I don’t think anyone should really care what a celebrity says about trump when they are complaining that he is a celebrity…..

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    48. i want to spread some of my thoughts on this article. one by the other, without any claim of coherency.

      – WOTW, i effing love you! when i read the news of President Stewface abusing GoT this morning (switzerland) on the SPIEGEL-app, i thought “ok, WOTW will pick this up, and i expect to see my beloved prince Joffrey again.”
      you did not disappoint me, and isn’t it right that most of us captioned the pic with “do you miss me?”

      – HBO, i love you too! Dothrak, of all languages available! a golden crown for this snob who loves gold so much, please! it will help him have no more bad hair days like the one that (as he stated at a rally appearance) would nearly have made him cancel that same rally appearance (when actually, the antisemitic mass murder in Pittbsburgh should have been the reason for cancellation then, but who expects empathy from a fascist sociopath anyway?)
      bring Khal Drogo back! there’s coronation work to be done. start the fires, bring a kettle and some cheap gold. i’d love to contribute the gold teeth of the very local dickheads who paved the road to success for right wing populism all over the civilized world in the early nineties. ok, not. i’m not violent enough for that.

      – GRRM, you are the man! i quote: VOTE! vote!them!out!, and remember that it were students in fear of being shot who first called for everyone to vote. everyone owes them to go out and vote! non-voters are a bunch of nancies pissing their pants in the face of responsibility, end of. thank you sir, for reminding everyone to kick their non-voting friends to do what they are expected to do: save democracy.

      – Sophie and Masie, i’m on my knees. you are young women, and the world is not developing the way that could make young women feel safe. uneducated dickheads controlled by springtides of sperm are taking over, and they are not just misogynists, they’re mostly also homophobes, racists, antisemites and of course coldhearted… dickheads, well. so, every person with a heart and some decency has all reasons to be scared these days, especially if they are women, gay, jewish, of latin origin, journalists, muslims… and i’m sure “handicapped” can be added to the list of people hated by the haters very soon. thank you, young ladies of Winterfell for standing up in their name!

      as i’m talking of dickheads, i have to think of one guy especially. so the next one is about: the use of GoT trademarks in politic discussion…

      – GoT is transporting a certain attitude about cruel narcisstic despots. they are not really the good ones on the show. surprise, right? no. there’s a wheel to be broken on the show. look, you folks are either Ramsay, Joffrey or Donald supporters. or you are humane.
      If it disturbs you that stars of the show or sites like this are majorly anti Trump you haven’t been paying attention. because the wheel President Orange and his fascist dickhead friends from Russia, Hungary, North Korea, Turkey and now also Brazil are building has been rolling over the weak and helpless time after time in history. it has to be destroyed before it is reconstructed.

      it is the wheel built with the beforementioned spokes of hatred and suppression, and it leaves piles of debris and carcass behind. once, the real world could agree on “NEVER AGAIN!”

      i wonder how anyone can watch GoT and come to the conclusion the actors or anyone involved should not stand up for “NEVER AGAIN!”

      that was a long extra route to the announced dickhead i want to talk about and the use of GoT slogans… but we’re back on the main road now.
      when Judge Keg got his job, there were protesters wearing shirts with a GoT related slogan: NOVEMBER IS COMING. i loved to see this, and i hope real life has a lot of novembers and winters to come for House Dickhead. no matter which heir of that certain house tries to get his fascist ass onto the throne.

      the show is about fantasy as it is about politics. but damn you and get f&cked by a dead bear if you don’t get the thing about the wheel and whether you’re a spoke of it or just the one to be run over by it! and damn you twice if you don’t care about this. those wearing the NOVEMBER IS COMING shirts did care. and they have the only right to wear GoT related slogans on shirts!

      because they are not the spokes.

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    49. death by chickenfire,

      That was a long extra route to the announced dickhead i want to talk about and the use of GoT slogans… but we’re back on the main road now.
      when Judge Keg got his job, there were protesters wearing shirts with a GoT related slogan: NOVEMBER IS COMING. i loved to see this, and i hope real life has a lot of novembers and winters to come for House Dickhead. no matter which heir of that certain house tries to get his fascist ass onto the throne.”

      ————

      Jaqen: “Boy. Lovely boy!”

      Arya: “What do you want?”

      Jaqen: “A man has a thirst. A man does not drink for a day and a night. A boy could make a friend.”

      Arya. “I have friends.”

      Brett: “Give us beer! Before I skin you!”

      Jaqen: “A man does not choose his companions.
      These two, they have no courtesy. A man must ask forgiveness. You are called Arry? This man has the honor to be Jaqen H’ghar, once of the Free City of Lorath.”

      Brett: “Beer! You little sh*t, get us beer!”

      Arya: “You should have asked nicely.”

      Brett: “Come closer and I’ll shove that stick up your bunghole and f*ck you bloody!”

      Jaqen. “A boy has more courage than sense.”

      Arya: “We’ll see about that. Someday I’m going to shove Needle into his heart and that’ll be the end of that brewski-swilling douchebag.”

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    50. I was going to just let this on go by and not say a word, but I can’t. I want everyone to remember that not everyone shares the same opinion that most who posted on this article seem to. There are Trump supporters/ voters out there who watch GoT (and have since the beginning) and subscribe to HBO. The man got elected President of the United States so it stands to reason that some of the comments here are alienating a portion of the viewing audience/fanbase. Just some food for thought!

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    51. Sharon,

      The Night King became the leader of the White Walkers so it stands to reason that some of the comments here are alienating a portion of the viewing audience/fanbase. Just some food for thought!

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    52. ………In fairness to Night King, he has more than the White Walkers. He also has a horde of morally decayed, manipulated mindless minions.

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    53. Sharon:
      The man got elected President of the United States so it stands to reason that some of the comments here are alienating a portion of the viewing audience/fanbase. Just some food for thought!

      now apply this to the part of the Charlottesville Nazi mob who also likes GoT…

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    54. Just to leave this here! A description of the issue as written by a life-long, conservative Republican journalist in a New York magazine:

      “These years have been overwhelmed and saturated by a single figure with no political experience, who won almost 3 million fewer votes than his opponent, has had consistently lower approval numbers than any of his recent predecessors, and speaks and acts in ways no previous president ever has. He has cast a staggering spell over a hefty segment of the population, and he has earned the intense loathing of the rest. “

      “Is this the new normal? Or has this been a detour into the freak zone, with a president accidentally elected, a major party temporarily hypnotized, but with a population still aware of something called reality?”

      “There are few historical guides. It is hard to think of a precedent for a president who endorses violence against political foes, sees the Justice Department as his own personal prosecutor, calls the press “the enemy of the people,” tears children from parents, brags of multiple sexual assaults, threatens to lock up his opponents, enthuses about war crimes, “falls in love” with the foulest dictator on the planet, refuses to divest of personal holdings in office, lambastes allies, treats the Treasury as a casino, actively endorses the poisoning of the environment, destabilizes NATO, baits minorities, lies incessantly, and oversees a resurgence of the white nationalist right. Any single gesture in any one of these areas would have been political death for most previous presidents. But we live in a time when we have come to expect that all this can now empower and even reward an American politician, rather than ruin him.”

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