Press Roundup: Preparation in Northern Ireland, Spain wrapping up, and other GoT news

 

The ball is definitely rolling in Northern Ireland while things are wrapping up in Spain.  At the top is a photo of Shane’s Castle where the Antrim Observer noticed some GoT preparation. From Osuna, Juego de Tronos posted a photo looking into the bull ring where we see many costumed extras.

More news and photos after the cut–maybe some mild spoilers.

Another view of Shane’s Castle in Randalstown, County Antrim.

New photos from Magheramorne Quarry have also surfaced (possible unmarked spoilers at link).  A fan noticed the activity on the Castle Black set and snapped several shots.

Another fan took aerial photos of the same quarry.  In the photo below, the red arrow points to Castle Black, the green to a large screen structure, and the yellow to a third structure which might be the Blackwater set from Season 2.

 More good news from Northern Ireland included a Kit Harrington spotting in Belfast a couple of days ago.

And another fan took some pics while walking in some fields near a GoT set.

Finally two bits of entertainment news.  First, Dubrovnik, Croatia wants to tap more into the GoT phenomena by creating a Game Of Thrones Theme Park on the Island of Lokrum.  The article says they will use the existing monastery on the island.  And GRRM appeared on Late Night with Seth Meyers last night.  Amy Poehler was also a guest and had the honor of testing GRRM’s knowledge of his own books.

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    1. Nodor Mr. Hodor

      What will Shane’s Castle be used for? Maybe some broken down castle during the Sansa and Littlefinger romp through the Vale.

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    2. Although there isn’t much in the way of exciting information here, it is very good to have a new roundup. I think I was going to explode if I had to put up with that Iron Islands post anymore.

      Doubt this will get over 700 comments though!

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    3. We are going to miss the news about GoT here in Spain, it’s been fun following all the opinions and different experiences of fans, extras cast and crew. I know it was posted in the previous post but as a tribute, the link with lots s of images of Spanish fans with the actors: http://imgur.com/a/t81ze

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    4. Lady Nym,

      If you are talking about that castle set, no, it’s not Deepwood Motte. It’s a set from three years ago, which stood for the Mudgate in the Battle of the Blackwater. Even if there was a possibility that they’d reuse the set, the pictures actually disprove it —it’s abandoned, in complete disrepair. You can even see its hollow wooden guts. So there’s no indication they are reusing it in any way.

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    5. Ironborn,

      Yes, a fair few times. Off the top of my head, I know it was used for the Tourney of the Hand in Season 1, but I think it has been used for other scenes as well… Someone probably know.

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    6. Cami,

      Thanks for the link to those photos. Looks like the cast couldn’t step out of their hotel without being mobbed…in a good way. Love all the photos of Iain!

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    7. Luka Nieto,

      Do we know that for fact or are you just saying your opinion? Because I’d say that the fact that wood is showing on that castle is proof that it’s still being built, not that it’s falling to disrepair.

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    8. jentario,

      The set does not only look exactly like the Mudgate, to a tee, but it also is exactly where the Mudgate was built; near the Castle Black set, just in front of the quarry lake. Compare the picture with this behind the scenes video. Or you could watch “Blackwater.” The whole set is seen clearly.

      As you see, all of that is an easily verifiable fact. My only assumption is that the set is falling in disrepair. Maybe they took out some of the fake-stone panels to use it somewhere else, that’s a possibility. But it’s certainly not a new set in the process of being built.

      I don’t mind if people keep on believing it’s Deepwood Motte or whatever, but it’s really not. It’s very recognizably the Mudgate.

      Ironborn,

      It’s not. It’s an old set. The Mudgate from “Blackwater.”

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    9. Luka Nieto,

      Can’t they reuse it though? It seems odd that they destroyed the Winterfell set but left the Mudgate standing. And since it’s already there, it wouldn’t be hard to shoot again.

      Ok, but I won’t get my hopes high. I don’t even know what the show thinks it’s important anymore.

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    10. ctid,

      Ironborn,

      They probably own the quarry so there’s no issue of space, and they may want to reuse the set in the future. Who knows. If you want an example of this kind of thing, remember the Eyrie stood unused for 3 years. They used it for a couple episodes in Season 1 and they didn’t tear it down until the end of Season 4 filming.

      Also, those walls are designed to match the Dubrovnik walls we have been seeing for years now. It’d be extremely weird to have the exact same architecture in a completely different environment, such as Deepwood Motte. Now, they may tear the set apart and turn it into something else —obviously, I don’t know that. But what’s currently there in the photo is not a new set; it’s the old Mudgate set, and I don’t see any evidence of any new work being done on it. It looks exactly as it did three years ago, except a bit more run-down.

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    11. ctid,

      For Deepwood Motte? I don’t know. I don’t want to speculate. But the set in the picture certainly isn’t it, and that’s not speculation.

      My original explanatory comment is in moderation, probably because of the links, so here’s the info again:

      “The set does not only look exactly like the Mudgate, to a tee, but it also is exactly where the Mudgate was built; near the Castle Black set, just in front of the quarry lake. Compare the picture with this behind the scenes video. Or you could watch “Blackwater.” The whole set is seen clearly.

      As you see, all of that is an easily verifiable fact. My only assumption is that the set is falling in disrepair. Maybe they took out some of the fake-stone panels to use it somewhere else, that’s a possibility. But it’s certainly not a new set in the process of being built.”

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    12. Luka Nieto,

      I agree with you, the set is the season 2 mud gate set.

      I’m just speculating about Shane’s Castle which I think could be used for Deepwood Motte if they plan to include that.

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    13. I think some people (for a kind of an inexplicable reason IMO) really want Deepwood Motte to be in the season so badly, they’re just making up reasons to believe it’s in and extrapolating unrelated news to match up with this need.

      There is no good reason to have Yara at Deepwood Motte on the show. It’s an unnecessary diversion in a story they are attempting to streamline. Stannis has to get to Winterfell by the end of the season after spending a good chunk of time at the Wall to get through the LC election. He doesn’t have time to do anything else. Yara’s heading back to Pyke to see whatever the hell they’re doing with Balon, I think that’s pretty clear.

      I look forward to the day where we get a post about a set that doesn’t immediately devolve into “DEEPWOOD MOTTE???” posts. It’s a waste of time. I’ll be glad when there’s official confirmation (even though logical people should have made this connection long ago).

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    14. King Tommen: I look forward to the day where we get a post about a set that doesn’t immediately devolve into “DEEPWOOD MOTTE???” posts. It’s a waste of time. I’ll be glad when there’s official confirmation (even though logical people should have made this connection long ago).

      So you’re confirming that it is Deepwood Motte. Thanks!

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    15. King Tommen: There is no good reason to have Yara at Deepwood Motte on the show. It’s an unnecessary diversion in a story they are attempting to streamline.

      Yeah, without the Kingsmoot stuff, Deepwood Motte doesn’t contribute anything to the story. I still think that they are better off have Yara/Asha decide to

      take her fleet to Danny

      . It actually would be an easy way to transpose her contribution to the story, too: she seems to be realizing in Dance that

      the Kraken way actually isn’t all it is cracked up to be, on a number of grounds

      .

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    16. Wimsey,

      King Tommen,

      Dany already has her ships, plus Yara would need a pretty good explanation to take this role.

      Also, why would Deepwood Motte be a waste of time? Ok, Stannis would go straight to Winterfell cause the show needs to streamline every bit of thing they can… But I don’t see how and why Stannis would gain the northerners support by doing that. I think it’d be a good mid-season fight scene like Craster’s keep was last year to be honest.

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    17. ctid,

      Yeah, like it’s fine when someone says that Yara should replace Victarion but it’s not when we speculate on sets that we don’t have a clue of what they may be, especially if that location fits with the storyline.

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    18. Ironborn,

      I’m with you. Although if you think about it they could just move Deepwood Motte! to Meereen and have both Yara taking Victarions role and a place for her to call home. I wonder what Glovers will be called in Ghiscari.

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    19. I’m surprised no1 has scrutinised that picture of daznaks out yet

      Notice how the extras are sprawled out and the brazen beasts are there …
      And they aren’t sprawled out normally … They look like they’re dead … And the brazen beasts are there too …. I’m thinking this is after the flight a.k.a set up for season 6

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    20. Random question – Has there been a Sansa sighting? We’ve seen pretty much every major character on set but I can’t recollect seeing Sophie. Seems to be shrouded in secrecy again.

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    21. King Tommen,

      I wrote an answer that went to the void, so I’ll keep it short.

      Keep Deepwood Motte (or have the fight scene in some random camp in the woods, for all I care):
      -Yara can still go to Pyke for a scene with daddy before Deepwood Motte, and daddy can still die on screen. It’s better to have Yara out of Pyke when that happens, though, otherwise people would expect a follow-up.
      -Yara and Stannis get to interact, finally giving Yara more than one scene for the season and becoming another one of the show’s odd couples
      -A fight scene in a season based on AFFC and ADWD where there’s very little action, this could be the perfect scene to spice up episode 6/7 instead of them just being 50 minutes of talking
      -You keep Deepwood Motte, you keep Jon’s advice to Stannis- which is very important to his character (for one, because he’s actually right and it shows he has good strategy and also because it’s the first time in ADWD that Jon breaks his vows and that is why he gets stabbed in the end).

      Cut Deepwood Motte:
      -Probably means there’ll be a slow episode later in the season, which going by season 4 (where every episode, even the early ones, had something big) that doesn’t seem to be what they want
      -Yara gets one scene again. “Hi Balon I failed. Are my seasonal 2 minutes up now?” That would be an entirely pointless scene to watch. Also, keeping Yara in Pyke for the season instead of giving her actually interesting things to do only makes remote sense if Euron will be in (and there’s no indication that he will be).

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    22. Wimsey,

      Why? Danny already’s got a fleet in the show.

      People are conflating what they want (Deepwood Motte, Victarion or a Victarion substitute) with what the show and the production have put in evidence so far. What’s being forgotten or willingly ignored is that nobody’s seen anything that points to Deepwood Motte being included; that the Wall storyline is literally the only one that hasn’t finished book 3 yet, so Stannis has to be at least half a season at the Wall, during the Choosing and quite a bit afterwards, which doesn’t leave much time for such a diversion; and, concerning the possibility of Greyjoy ships going to Meereen, people are forgetting the fact that the show has established Daario saved the Meerneese fleet, consisting of the same number of ships with which Victarion parted to Meereen: 93 ships. Exactly the same number. That’s not a coincidence. Whatever role a fleet could play in the show version of events after Daznak’s Pit, it will be filled by the Meereenese Navy, not the Iron Fleet.

      Ironborn,

      Stannis will probably use wildlings instead of the mountain clans, judging by casting calls for wildling commanders involved in war room scenes.

      jentario,

      The Battle of Winterfell will be depicted this season, judging by reports of an enormous battle in the snow that had to be relocated from Iceland to Ireland. So, there’s really no need for a slow episode in the Wall/Stannis storyline, since it’ll go a bit beyond ADWD, and currently it isn’t even done with book 3. The Choosing will take some time, and so will the battle. There’s really not that much space in-between.

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    23. People are conflating what they want (Deepwood Motte, Victarion or a Victarion substitute) with what the show and the production have put in evidence so far. What’s being forgotten or willingly ignored is that nobody’s seen anything that points to Deepwood Motte being included; that the Wall storyline is literally the only one that hasn’t finished book 3 yet, so Stannis has to be at least half a season at the Wall, during the Choosing and quite a bit afterwards, which doesn’t leave much time for such a diversion; and, concerning the possibility of Greyjoy ships going to Meereen, people are forgetting the fact that the show has established Daario saved the Meerneese fleet, consisting of the same number of ships with which Victarion parted to Meereen: 93 ships. Exactly the same number. That’s not a coincidence. Whatever role a fleet could play in the show version of events after Daznak’s Pit, it will be filled by the Meereenese Navy, not the Iron Fleet.

      Ironborn,

      Stannis will probably use wildlings instead of the mountain clans, judging by casting calls for wildling commanders who will be involved in war room scenes.

      jentario,

      The Battle for Winterfell will be depicted this season, judging by reports of an enormous battle in the snow that had to be relocated from Iceland to Ireland. So, there’s really no need for a slow episode in the Wall/Stannis storyline, since it’ll go a bit beyond ADWD, and currently it isn’t even done with book 3. The Choosing will take some time, and so will the battle. There’s really not that much space in-between.

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    24. Winter,

      Besides that set of photos (from early August, I think) of her and LF riding at the head of a group of Knights of the Vale, we haven’t seen her. Even that may have been Sophie Turner and Aidan Gillen’s horseback doubles for all we know.

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    25. Mine is the Furry:
      Suspenders are making a stylistic comeback.Just not on GRRM.

      Wimsey: Wait, they were out of style?Nobody told me!!!!

      This should appeal to what I’ve seen of Mine is the Furry’s style of posts, but here in the UK suspenders are those tights without tops that are held up by a belt and regarded as “sexy” underwear by many. I assume you mean what we call braces, but there’s NO WAY I’m watching that clip, just in case. Something else GoT-related mind bleach could be useful for. The programme should sponsor the stuff! (O_O)

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    26. Could they be shooting some scenes to be used in S6? I am specifically thinking about Stannis plot line – this year is different, as they have been renewed for two seasons…

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    27. ash,

      Oh definitely! That’s one we don’t even know where to start with and brings all kinds of bizarre ideas to mind. Like what is it, a build your own lady bits package? Could be useful for the show if they run out of girls willing to…er…put everything on display as it were.

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    28. Patchy Face,

      No, they really couldn’t. The filming schedule is already jam-packed enough, it makes no sense and it wouldn’t help them in any way to film some of Season 6 this year, especially big scenes. Why would they do it anyway?

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    29. steve,

      I’ve mentioned a few notes about TWoI&F in previous posts, but unless TWotW folks decide to have a thread on it (maybe in the forum section) it is probably going to be ignored here. The colorful anecdotes and “jousting maesters” (different points of view) are quite well done. Folks whining that TWoI&F is “fan’fiction” are extremely deluded, knowing nothing about the 8-year process by which this was created and the 180,000 words that GRRM wrote for it. The hardback is impressive.

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    30. Luka Nieto,

      And you’re assuming that the battle planned to be filmed in Iceland and then moved to Irland is the Battle of Winterfell… Maybe, or maybe not! I think Deepwood Mott is cut, in order to delay the Ironborn plot to S6, but we DO NOT know. Maybe they made Deepwood Mott a climax, because make “For the Watch” as an end for Jon’s arc and then evidence of Kit Harington returning to the set next summer will be problematic (well, assuming that Jon actually dies and Melisandre resurrects him). If we take only evidence, then, there’s no “For the Watch” this year (the actor who will play Bowen Marsh doesn’t list David Nutter in his CV), and if we don’t have “For the Watch” this year, then the most likely scenario is that we won’t have a Battle of Winterfell.

      And yes, tWoW is a huge book, but maybe is a huge filler-book (if we follow those who claims that aFfC and aDwD are dark and full of filler). Then, D&D could easily keep some scenes of the books 4 and 5 for S6.

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    31. StandOzone,

      Moreover, the casting call are always incomplete. As far as I remember, they sometimes take actor that auditioned for a specific role, and give them another character as was the case for Joe Dempsie. It is always a possibility that some Northern lords will be choosen amongst those actor who auditioned for a wildling leader. A POSSIBILITY, not a FACT.

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    32. Cami,

      Awesome

      StandOzone,

      We’ll know what the snowy battle is soon enough. We have to get SOME news about it, right? With the amount of extras and the long filming time… The options are Hardhome, Winterfell and a Deepwood Motte with Winterfell being the most likely.

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    33. StandOzone,

      Yer funny….TWoW “filler”? With all the ADwD cliff-hangers pending, battles beginning, and pre-released chapters delivering, how can you seriously explore that idea?

      With Mel in the mix and no Val, no swappable babies or need of Thenns, Stannis will gather his forces and alignments, then depart quickly from CB. For those remaining at CB, I believe there will be a “For the watch” cliffhanger to end S5….with Mel and Ghost to the rescue….maybe….

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    34. Hodor’s Bastard:
      StandOzone,

      Yer funny….TWoW “filler”? With all the ADwD cliff-hangers pending, battles beginning, and pre-released chapters delivering, how can you seriously explore that idea?

      Wow, I didn’t know that TWoW (ha!) has been published. So, TWoW not filler=confirmed?

      I mean, some people didn’t explore the idea that AFfC would be filler when finishing ASoS, and we know how that ended…

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    35. Morgan,

      I think we can take this as confirmation the show will wrap up in 7 seasons. Would be interesting to know who else would be in the B tier. Probably (besides Dormer, Williams and Turner) Gillen, Glen, Cunningham, Dillane, van Houten, Allen, Hempstead-Wright, Hill, Bradley and Flynn. That’s gonna cost HBO a lot of money 😛 . But didn’t van Houten and Cunningham already sign on for six seasons when they joined in season 2? I remember reading that somewhere.

      Anyways, good news we won’t lose any of them due to contract issues.

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    36. Hodor’s Bastard,

      It was [somewhat] sarcasm. If Dorne and Ironborn plots are seeing as fillers, then, tWoW will be a filler-book, we know we will get a lot of Sand Snakes (well, they are heading to King’s Landing, but are dornish), we will get a development of the Old Town arc (which could be counted as filler for some people), and we know that we will have more Aeron’s POV and it is almost certain that we will get more Euron and Victarion (so… if we see the Ironborn as filler -the main complain about aFfC- then we will get a heavy-filler-book)… Oh, and we will get more Arianne-Griffs, more filler 😀

      If the Ironborn-Griff-Arianne storylines are entirely cut, then an important portion of tWoW won’t be adapted. So, D&D won’t be adapting a HUGE book. 😛

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    37. Have you guys seen this? The article contains maybe spoilers for seasons 5, 6 and 7. YOU’VE BEEN WARNED.

      http://insidetv.ew.com/2014/10/30/game-of-thrones-cast-7th-season/

      It’s basically which actors reportedly got their contracts renewed for season 7. If this is true, then those actors survive seasons 5 and 6 and will be in season 7. There are actors who are not on the list.

      I don’t know if I believe this article completely, but I thought it was worth mentionning.

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    38. Dutch maester,

      I’m not sure how many seasons those who didn’t join the show until after the first season signed on for, but the main cast who’ve been on the show since the beginning were all only signed on for 6 until now. Also, some may have not had a season added on but just had salary renegotiations.

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    39. Dutch maester: I think we can take this as confirmation the show will wrap up in 7 seasons.

      Not really. I agree that 7 seasons are very likely at this point, but contract negotiations can pretty much happen every time for a variety of reasons. All that really tells us is that they wanted to play it as safe as possible for season 7, doesn’t necessarily mean there won’t be a season 8.

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    40. Morgan,

      Awesome! Thanks for the link!

      I feel comfortable saying that this report provides de facto confirmation of the seven season plan. It may have already been essentially confirmed from showrunner interviews and deductive logic, but nothing talks like money. The article makes it pretty clear that the raises that the cast will receive in this deal represent a huge financial commitment for HBO, elevating the “Tier A” actors in particular to among the highest paid stars on cable TV. That’s a cost that they’re obviously willing to pay in order to secure their stars for another three seasons of their biggest hit. But the implication is that after Season 7, none of the actors are going to be under contract, and HBO would have to negotiate new deals with them all separately (or by “tier”, as THR suggests) in order to bring them back. That strikes me as a problem that they would want to take care of well in advance – i.e. now – unless they know that they won’t have to. Seven seasons it is.

      For those who are concerned that certain actors being mentioned (or not) in the article counts as a potential spoiler about their status for future seasons, I wouldn’t worry too much. The big news is that the actors who are still under contract with the show are all getting a huge raise, but my understanding of the “renegotiation” after reading the article is that they’re all still technically on their original six year deals – they’re just getting paid more. The seventh season remains a network option that HBO has to pick up in order for them to receive the money. That’s contingent on HBO renewing the show for Season 7 (which is an absolute certainty) and the actor’s character surviving to that point (far less certain).

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    41. Jared,

      Pretty much. I don’t think this spoils anything to be honest. The reports are pretty vague, and working on tiers makes it more likely that the list could miss someone of the main cast when S07 gets approved.

      For my limited understanding, this still doesn’t disprove the possibility of an extended S07, right?

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    42. As mentioned, the article has some interesting news but in terms of spoiling future developments in the series and/or books, not really. It explicitly states that just because they’ve listed actors, it doesn’t mean that they will absolutely be in all 7 seasons. The 7th year is an option now tacked on to the 6 year deals the actors all originally agreed to. The option is there should HBO decide to pick it up for a 7th season (while not official, is pretty much a formality at this point given the popularity of the show).

      The main benefit here for the actors is that the renegotiation allows new raises to be implemented immediately for S5 and S6 (which was most likely the carrot dangled in order for the actors to all agree to the 7th year option). The tiering of the actors is interesting and logical as they can’t give 50 people the exact same raises. Important to note that the article isn’t listing everyone in each categories, simply examples of some of them.

      It should be noted that as always, the cast being “locked up” for 7 seasons is only referring to the “regulars” and not guest stars which on this show covers off a number of characters such as Aemon, Balon, Walder, Lancel, Janos etc. etc. So if you take this news to mean “Yay, no possibility of re-casts ever”, then that’s not necessarily true.

      Finally, while technically there is still a possibility that an 8th season could be added at some point, it would appear to be a very remote possibility. Everything the show producers have said and done for the past year or so indicates this is done at 7 seasons. You would think that if an 8th season were in the cards, then the option would have been added during this negotiation.

      I still however believe there is a strong chance that the 7th season is either an extended one or broken into 2 parts (like two 7 episode segments). In the final year, the production concerns about how much time they have to film the season isn’t an issue and they can simply delay the start of the final season if they wish to because they no longer have to stay on their year to year production schedule. Having a longer or separated final season allows HBO to milk the golden goose one last time for maximum profit without having to renegotiate new contracts for everyone. It’s pretty much the template now for cable series (Mad Men and Breaking Bad) and HBO has already employed this method with The Sopranos and Sex and the City. I’d say there’s a very good chance we see this happen.

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    43. Gonna have to disagree with everyone in here saying that the cutting of the Greyjoy story makes Deepwood less likely. To me it seems like the thing that would make Deepwood relevant.

      I’m working under the assumption that Euron is still in as a future character, since he’s still included in the season 3 / 4 family trees while Vic and Dampy got cut, but assuming that, you can’t send Yara back to Pyke to witness Balon’s death, since it’s important that Euron be there in the immediate aftermath, and you can’t have both of them on Pyke without triggering the Kingsmoot plot. Deepwood is the best place you can send Yara to get her away from that and get her quickly intersecting with other characters. Sending her to Meereen seems crazy, since A.) why would she even think of that possibility, let alone actually want to do it? And B.) they’ve already given Daario the ships. He’s taking over the Victarion role. I really don’t think we’re getting any ironborn involvement at Meereen. Plus, Cogman said that the taint of retreat would be important to Yara’s future plot, and her choosing to avoid admitting that to her dad by going to Deepwood instead of returning to Pyke to tell him what happened would fit with that.

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    44. Hodor’s Bastard,

      Am I misunderstanding you because it sounds like you’re saying that Stannis will leave CB quickly but Mel will be there at the end of the season? We know that Mel made Stannis think the reason he lost Blackwater was because she wasn’t there. Now he won’t let her leave his side. So if we believe that they won’t be apart and we believe that Mel will resurrect Jon at the end, then the only logical conclusion is that Stannis will also have to be at CB at the end of the Season. So can we extrapolate that Stannis will be at CB the entire season meaning that there will be no battle of Winterfell in S5 OR they move the battle of Winterfell up to the middle of the season so that Stannis and Mel can return to the wall by the end. I knows that’s a lot of “if’s” but….I hope they do actually move it up in time. Then we get the battle in the middle, which should enliven things AND the resurrection at the end. Third option is that they end the season with Battle of Winterfell and have the resurrection as the opener to next season BUT I think that would be insane to make fans wait an entire year to learn Jon’s fate. Then again, GRRM has made us wait years so maybe D&D will do something similar. What do you think?

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    45. Looking at the picture of Tyrion at the top of the article Morgan linked to

      he seems to have gained some extra scars (two diagonal ones on his right cheek). Is it from a scene we haven’t seen piccies of before? I haven’t looked at all the articles people have been linking to, so apologies if old news, but it’s new to me. I’m guessing from a fairly early episode as his beard seems a lot ‘newer’ than in the Daznak’s (sp?) Pit ones the other day and he’s holding chains, as if he might be attached to them.

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    46. Greenjones,

      Mmm, certainly sounds plausible for the scars, but what about the chains (on his left)? I’m not doubting you, I just don’t remember seeing him with a beard and chains at any point in S4, or anything I’ve seen so far for S5 (although as I said I haven’t followed all the links so it may not be new for others).

      Having said that he was, of course, in a cell for a lot of S4 so I may just be confusing myself here. I probably ought to just look at things and leave commenting to people who are paying a lot more attention than I am. But it’s fun to join in from time to time.

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    47. Dame Pasty,

      I think Stannis will be on his way sooner than later! He’s on a roll! 🙂

      I think Stannis is headed southwest but will he actually detour through Deepwood Motte as many speculate (for book alignment)? Given past “conservation of story” (4-5 episodes to get from Braavos to CB), he probably will head directly to Winterfell by mid-season, where all the nasty fun is….and hopefully Mance and his lute and Thenn/wildling crew will precede him.

      From what I could tell, Mel had nothing to do with his CB victory (even less than her input in the books) and now that Mel has seen the fiery Azor Ahai of her dreams (I see only snow), she will find a way to stay at CB. Stannis won’t take his family and Mel with him into battle with the Boltons so we’ll get some fun Selyse, Shireen, Mel, Sam, Jon, wildling, giant and NW chaos until the mutiny.

      I think your 3rd option has a lot of promise. It will give a little bit of TWoW away yet save the big “resurrection” (and how) for TWoW disclosure first…assuming that GRRM will publish TWoW immediately after S5 or the following winter. Regardless of how it plays out, it should be fun. I love this storyline.

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    48. Greenjones,

      Ok, I’m officially confusing myself, just ignore me. I did wonder what the brown material behind him was and why he looked so devastated. Now I look again it’s obvious. I blame Mine is the Furry for their suspenders remark, it’s totally put me off thinking straight :O( As we say over here, I’ll get my coat!

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    49. Luka Nieto:
      People are conflating what they want (Deepwood Motte!, Victarion or a Victarion substitute) with what the show and the production have put in evidence so far. What’s being forgotten or willingly ignored is that nobody’s seen anything that points to Deepwood Motte! being included; that the Wall storyline is literally the only one that hasn’t finished book 3 yet, so Stannis has to be at least half a season at the Wall, during the Choosing and quite a bit afterwards, which doesn’t leave much time for such a diversion; and, concerning the possibility of Greyjoy ships going to Meereen, people are forgetting the fact that the show has established Daario saved the Meerneese fleet, consisting of the same number of ships with which Victarion parted to Meereen: 93 ships. Exactly the same number. That’s not a coincidence. Whatever role a fleet could play in the show version of events after Daznak’s Pit, it will be filled by the Meereenese Navy, not the Iron Fleet.

      Ironborn,

      Stannis will probably use wildlings instead of the mountain clans, judging by casting calls for wildling commanders who will be involved in war room scenes.

      jentario,

      The Battle for Winterfell will be depicted this season, judging by reports of an enormous battle in the snow that had to be relocated from Iceland to Ireland. So, there’s really no need for a slow episode in the Wall/Stannis storyline, since it’ll go a bit beyond ADWD, and currently it isn’t even done with book 3. The Choosing will take some time, and so will the battle. There’s really not that much space in-between.

      There you go, I’ve corrected it for you.

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    50. Greenjones,

      Literally everything they teased is pointing to something involving Stannis and the Ironborn. Maybe there’s still hope for Deepwood… Nobody expected Moat Cailin to appear in season 4 and then it popped up in a random casting. Hoping for some Stannis/Yara action in season 5!

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    51. jentario,

      Give you the dead guy from the Rolling Stones?

      And by the way I’m not sure if I misunderstood a comment from the other thread but I’m just me on here, just CTID.

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    52. Actually,

      serious

      I want to see Deepwood Motte! in the show. It’s a great way to tie the three northern arcs together. I want to see the Mormonts come and help Stannis and Asha getting captured. I also genuinely think that that castle above that is in a wood and by water could potentially be used for it even if it is made of stone.

      /serious

      However I do plan to use Deepwood Motte! from now on for anything and everything that we aren’t sure of.

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    53. ctid,

      As I said above, Deepwood Motte doesn’t even have to be Deepwood Motte in the show. It could be Stannis attacking Yara’s camp in the woods, or something. As long as they duke it out per Jon’s advice and she ends up his captive, I’ll take it.

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    54. That would work too, but seeing as Deepwood Motte! is already in the show cannon as where Yara took they may as well have the fight there. And I personally now really want to see it if only to prove people who insist it won’t be in wrong. *cough tommen cough*

      Sod Manderly and the Griffs, gimme Deepwood Motte!

      And it would make an awesomely underwhelming credits sequence, a big hilly lump (what a Motte is) popping out of a forest with a squid on it.

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