News roundup: Alfie Allen “looking forward to” Greyjoy scenes, Isaac Hempstead-Wright promises a “big season” and more

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Alfie Allen says that Game of Thrones season 6 is “going to blow people’s minds” and Isaac Hempstead-Wright calls it a “big season.” Casting director, Nina Gold, is to be honored at the BAFTAs and Season 5 is set to rank #1 on the Official Video Chart.

Alfie Allen sat down with Susannah Guthrie of The New Daily. They discussed season 5’s controversies and his mum’s reaction to his torture scenes in season 3. Though he was careful not to give away too much about season 6, Allen promised “more of a Greyjoy presence without the shadow of a doubt … not so much a Theon presence. There may be still be Reek there.”

With lots of deferential glances over at the “HBO snipers,” he mentioned a scene involving Pilou Asbæk that he’s “very much looking forward to” and hinted at a development towards the end of the season comparable to the Red Wedding “in term of epic-ness” that he says “is going to blow people’s minds.”

Allen also participated in a Gameshow of Thrones with Newsweek to test his Greyjoy knowledge … with a cheat sheet.

In an interview for his participation in Run to Ramsgate for Sport Relief, Isaac Hempstead-Wright said that season 6 of Game of Thrones “will be one of the coolest,” that “there’s a lot of things starting to tie up Bran’s storyline … it’s a big season.”

According to Official Charts, Game of Thrones season 5 is set to top the Official Video Chart at #1 and that the show is currently outselling the rest of the Top 10 list combined.

At the British Academy Television Craft Awards in London on April 24, Game of Thrones‘ casting director, Nina Gold, is going to receive a BAFTA Special Award in recognition of “outstanding contribution in casting” for her work in more than 100 film and television productions including Star Wars: Episode VII The Force Awakens and The Theory of Everything as well as Game of Thrones.

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    1. We have the runtime of the first 3 episodes.
      Episode 1 -50 minutes
      Episode 2-54 minutes
      Episode 3-53 minutes
      sauce: (spicy) HBO

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    2. harlequeen,

      Bit on the short side, but quality>quantity every time.

      It’ll be nice to get some episode titles/synopses soon too.

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    3. harlequeen:
      We have the runtime of the first 3 episodes.
      Episode 1 -50 minutes
      Episode 2-54 minutes
      Episode 3-53 minutes
      sauce: (spicy) HBO

      Wow off to a short start. 50, 54, and 53 minutes. Later episodes must have a longer runtime.

      Also, I think last year we got the first 4 episode titles at once, but they also sent the first 4 out for screeners. With no screeners this year maybe we will only get the premiere episode title. The Red Carpet premiere is April 10th, so hopefully by then.

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    4. Aaaa Alfie knows all Theon’s story, both books and show.!! Great! He knows what he plays, maybe we will avoid “tits” comments by this one.

      Also in the article about the dvd.. “The fantasy drama starring Kit Harington, Peter Dinklage and Gwendoline Christie ”
      Will Brienne have such a big role in the upcoming season? 🙂

      Also will we get RW2? Arya, Jaime and Brienne have to do something on episode 10 🙂

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    5. I know this post has nothing to do with Jon Snow, but I was just watching a YouTube breakdown video of the S6 trailer and I thought of something.

      Everyone is so convinced that Jon will be resurrected somehow by Melissandre, or through a funeral pyre. Everyone has this notion that Azor Ahai must be born amongst Salt and smoke (well, because thats what has been stated)…which I totally get and am on board with. But thinking back, if this is truly a song of ice and fire, with Dany being fire and Jon being ice, wouldn’t it make more sense for Jon to come back in some form of ice instead of fire as Dany did?

      I know it doesn’t line up with AA, and I know coldhands wasn’t introduced into the story line, but he is a conscious wight…I think it would be kind of cool if Jon was resurrected to something similar with Shireen being the sacrifice needed for that to happen. I know that doesn’t line up as well with the Melissandre and the red god and that Shireen was a sacrifice to that…but I thought it was interesting at least in my own head LOL. This is probably completely wrong since it has been foreshadowed a lot that Melissandre has seen “snow” in the flames etc etc. Just thought i’d share. I just think it would be a cool twist that no one has really seemed to rule as a possibility (at least not that i’ve seen)

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    6. ‘and hinted at a development towards the end of the season comparable to the Red Wedding “in term of epic-ness” that he says “is going to blow people’s minds.” ‘

      Aw man it better be Griff & Young Griff

      #here’shoping

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    7. Maggie,

      Every year, some actor or the other says this, that will see RW level big moments. It’s just actors hyping up the season.. Last year Liam Cunningham said this and he was talking of Shireen’s burning. In this case I think Alfie is talking about

      battle of the bastards

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    8. comparable to the red wedding towards the end of the season ?

      maybe the umbers and other Northern houses betraying the boltons towards the end of the battle, slaughtering the whole family, just a guess. maybe it has nothing to do with the battle.

      According to Official Charts, Game of Thrones season 5 is set to top the Official Video Chart at #1 and that the show is currently outselling the rest of the Top 10 list combined.
      Amazing news indeed, news like this always puts a smile on my face.

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    9. The Sword Of The Moaning:
      ‘and hinted at a development towards the end of the season comparable to the Red Wedding “in term of epic-ness” that he says “is going to blow people’s minds.” ‘

      Aw man it better be Griff & Young Griff

      #here’shoping

      In what possible sense is the revelation of the Griffs comparable to the Red Wedding? It would ellicit a “Huh?” from most watchers, and more importantly I don’t see how the revelation could be described as “epic”.

      Anyway. I wonder if Allen’s just alluding to the climactic episode nine battle (after all, he says “epic”) or if perhaps we should expect some shocking event in the finale. My best guesses would include a retaliation to the Red Wedding, Cersei going all Mad King in King’s Landing, the resolution to the show’s equivalent to the dilemma LSH poses to Brienne with Jaime, and the White Walkers approaching the Wall.

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    10. Congrats Nina Gold! So well-deserved.

      Joe,

      I have become convinced that

      Melisandre will have sex with Jon’s dead body to bring him back to life. Because HBO, D&D, tits, and shock factor. I don’t know where the smoke and salt fits in, but I wouldn’t be surprised if they conveniently forget about it for the sake of shock value.

      Shireen could play a part in the books (maybe…maybe not), but I doubt they wanted to associate the rebirth of a fan favorite with the death of an innocent kid on the show.

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    11. Oh I know! Not just necrophilia for shock factor, but necrophilia on a bed of rock salt. Or maybe she gives his penis a good salt scrub first. Gotta make sure that thing is clean, especially under the foreskin.

      Eyes are rolling here.

      The “epic” and “bigger” comments are just classic actor speak to provide a headline and say nothing at all.

      I’m looking forward to the screening and the red carpet.

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    12. Matthew The Dragon knight:
      where is all this talk about necrophilia coming from ? XD

      Melisandre taking a clothes off in the trailer, randomly asking Jon if he’s a virgin last season, that scene between her and him in his office in season 5. Why not? lmao

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    13. “I’m not sure this is going to be much of a season. I watched the episodes shortly after filming ended, and, well, it’s kind of lame, and even the effects didn’t do much for me this time.”

      –said by no actor on Game of Thrones, ever, in history, ever.

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    14. Greatjon of Slumber:
      “I’m not sure this is going to be much of a season. I watched the episodes shortly after filming ended, and, well, it’s kind of lame, and even the effects didn’t do much for me this time.”

      –said by no actor on Game of Thrones, ever, in history, ever.

      lmao Is that you, Ian McShane?

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    15. …hinted at a development towards the end of the season comparable to the Red Wedding “in term of epic-ness” that he says “is going to blow people’s minds.”

      There’s a cameo from Abbi and Ilana from Broad City, where the former, in one of her hulk-on moments, beats the hell out of four White Walkers with her rollerblades, while the latter appears as another “shame nun” and tortures Cersei until Cersei starts saying “Yaas queen” after every statement.

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    16. I don’t know if I just feel like it but it looks like all the actors who are saying the usual “it’s going to be big and epic” actually mean it and seem genuinely excited about it.

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    17. Jesus, why so cynical? Of course it’s a part of an actor’s job to hype up their project, but they also may genuinely like the effing thing. Maybe to them it really is ‘epic’, ‘mind-blowing’ and shit. Just because it may turn out not to be to some viewers doesn’t mean they’re right and that all think the same. It’s a matter of taste. No one’s opinion is objective on this.

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    18. Now it’s not cool for actors to like their work??
      And how will you know what happens in the series will not happen in books?
      As far as i know books have more detailed tits and sex scenes than the show.

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    19. When reached for comment about the upcoming season, the following answers were provided:

      Kit Harington: “Dead.”
      Maisie Williams: “It’s alright I guess.”
      Sophie Turner: “Well, kind of shtupid, actually.”
      Carice van Houten: “Yawn.”
      Lena Headey: “Meh.”

      Liam Cunningham: “LASERS AND DRAGONS AND UNICORNS AAAAAAUGH!!!!”

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    20. I think all future fight scenes between dudes should be done fully nude to up the wiener count. It would be totally shocking and HBO-like too.

      Let’s all imagine Cleganebowl but they’re naked, balls swinging, penises flapping on their thighs, well-oiled muscled chests rubbing against one another, rolling around on the ground, and then they start to kiss because that kind of thing happens when you get naked dudes together.

      *fans self* My word, I think I need a moment.

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    21. Hmmm….maybe things with Cercei and Tommen will get Red Weddingish.
      I’m really not sure where the conflict between them is going to go, other than we know Tommen is with the sparrows and Cercei is against them, and so is Jaime. Margeory is going to appear to be with them, and Tommen, to get out of jail and to get closer to Tommen again. We know there’s a big scene on the Sept stairs, from photos months ago. We know from the trailer that there’s a scene with Sir Robert Strong of Cercei’s queensguard….
      Here’s my prediction:
      After the violent scene above, she’ll appear to be in support of reconciliation with the High Sparrow and Tommen. Big ceremony or dinner to patch things up, and at said event, all Sparrows are put to the sword….
      I’d love that, even if it is repetitious.

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    22. Pigeon,

      I was totally thinking Eastern Promises but decided people might not get the reference!

      Of course, we aren’t going to get hot guy dick, we are going to get saggy balls old dude wiggling his wang at Cersei. *sigh*

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    23. POTENTIAL SPOILERS FOR NON-BOOK READERS…

      Arya will have to meet and align with Varys to get things done in King’s Landing? The only two significant characters on her hit list are Strong and Cercei. What role she will play besides that is not clear to me, and I’m hope Nymeria is back at her side when they remind Cercei how she ordered Robert to kill Lady….before Nymeria rips her apart…

      Clearly the Iron Born will align with Dany – they have the fleet (it’s so obvious in the books, it grows so much in ADWD due to their pirating) and they have the magic dragon-calling horn. And the Dothraki will be her army, along with Iron Born and the North under Jon (once he’s revealed). Griff will align with Dorne in the south – and they’ll meet in the middle? Then the WW will descend?

      I hope Sansa sits the Iron Throne, maybe with Griff as her hubby or Tristaine – she deserves a happy ending.

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    24. The development Alfie promises has to do with Rhaegal. If he were to accidentally escape because of an error made by Tyrion, say…in the midway point of the season…would he fly to protect Dany…or fly to protect someone else…?

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    25. Even on Game of Thrones Wiki, we don’t know exactly how old Theon was supposed to be in the TV show.

      He was *probably* ten years old when the Starks took him, keeping his relative age constant. The rebellion still occurred nine years before the narrative begins, in both books and TV series (they state this on-screen).

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    26. harlequeen:
      We have the runtime of the first 3 episodes.
      Episode 1 -50 minutes
      Episode 2-54 minutes
      Episode 3-53 minutes
      sauce: (spicy) HBO

      That is sadly quite short. Hopefully the late season will compensate it.

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    27. The Dragon Demands:
      Even on Game of Thrones Wiki, we don’t know exactly how old Theon was supposed to be in the TV show.

      He was *probably* ten years old when the Starks took him, keeping his relative age constant.The rebellion still occurred nine years before the narrative begins, in both books and TV series (they state this on-screen).

      The Asoiaf wiki says he was 10 when he was taken. I wouldn’t be surprised if he was one of the few characters that wasn’t aged up for the show. I’d give him the same age at the start of GoT (19).

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    28. Kaye,

      I’m not one that liked that part of the story, and honestly I didn’t find Thoros interesting at all in the books.
      That said. I LOVED Paul as Thoros, I would love too see him again.

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    29. I still think the new and improved Frankenmountain will want to pick flowers and arrange bouquets, maybe tiptoe through the tulips. Qyburn did say he would be different! He couldn’t get any colder and meaner than he was before. 😉

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    30. Less is more when it comes to season 6 episode run times, hopefully.
      Perhaps the Red Wedding like event could be affecting a certain character from the Riverlands making a return this year, an old fellow who lost a young wife himself during the RW. That leaked script might actually have gotten some things right.

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    31. Kaye:
      Paul Kaye says he “can’t say” if he makes a reappearance as Thoros, to which the interviewer answers “so you totally are then”. This was yesterday.

      http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b074v9cf

      You know, I kind of wondered if it wouldn’t make sense to use

      Beric’s ‘last life’, so to speak, for Jon since LSH isn’t a factor on the show. Or simply Thoros. But I would love to see Richard Dormer again. 🙂

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    32. and hinted at a development towards the end of the season comparable to the Red Wedding “in term of epic-ness” that he says “is going to blow people’s minds.”

      Interesting! An episode 9 battle, no matter how “big” it is, doesn’t quite equate to Red Wedding levels in my mind in terms of blowing my mind. I wonder if something terrible happens to King’s Landing and the Red Keep. From the start, the Red Keep has been a very iconic piece of imagery for GoT and the center of the Seven Kingdoms. Perhaps Tommen will die towards the end of Season 6 and Cersei will set the city on fire. That would be mind-blowing. We also do have the vision from Daenerys in Season 2 which showed a burnt, destroyed Red Keep, so at some point it could happen.

      Kaye,
      Thanks for the news! Yay for Thoros! Good to see him again. Very chilled dude.

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    33. The sixth season of “Game of Thrones” will be stuffed with the kind of big moments that have made the HBO fantasy series must-see cable TV, according to actor Liam Cunningham. And it won’t waste any time getting to them.

      “Listen, there are going to be many, and they’re from the get-go, I guarantee it,” says Cunningham, who plays Ser Davos Seaworth, right-hand man to the apparently dead would-be king Stannis Baratheon (Stephen Dillane). “You’re going to have at least one rather very large one in [episode] 1, but that’s all I’m going to tell you.”

      http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2016/03/18/game-of-thrones-expect-at-least-one-huge-moment-in-the-season-6-premiere/

      that explains the lack of local premieres and critics screeners

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    34. Kay: ….. We also do have the vision from Daenerys in Season 2 which showed a burnt, destroyed Red Keep, so at some point it could happen.

      I’ve been doing my rewatch a bit early this year – however in S04E02 (which I watched last night) we also get this same vision from Bran when he touches the Weirwood tree as he’s travelling past the Wall.

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    35. Javi from Los Siete Reinos has also spoken about a main character or two big characters dying unexpectedly.

      I think it would be almost impossible to have another Red Wedding kind of shock at this stage. With the Red Wedding and Jon Snow’s death most of the biggest shocks have likely passed. Perhaps it could be shocking if we have the opposite effect. Instead of Starks being killed we will finally see the Starks getting revenge, that would also be a big moment. But there has also been some rumours that Rickon will die this season, but he is not a main character.

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    36. Great to see this recognition for Nina Gold. Seems like half the movies I see these days that strike me as splendidly cast, her name turns up in the credits.

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    37. Boudica:
      Javi from Los Siete Reinos has also spoken about a main character or two big characters dying unexpectedly.

      I think it would be almost impossible to have another Red Wedding kind of shock at this stage. With the Red Wedding and Jon Snow’s death most of the biggest shocks have likely passed. Perhaps it could be shocking if we have the opposite effect. Instead of Starks being killed we will finally see the Starks getting revenge, that would also be a big moment. But there has also been some rumours that Rickon will die this season, but he is not a main character.

      He said two Main characters?? The main characters are all together 10!!This is like huge spoiler!
      ” the biggest shocks have likely passed” Not really..both of them where known and we waited for them…. if something like this happens this year and wihout any books to even hint to it, the shock will be huge.

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    38. JoeSnow: I’ve been doing my rewatch a bit early this year – however in S04E02 (which I watched last night) we also get this same vision from Bran when he touches the Weirwood tree as he’s travelling past the Wall.

      Yes, you are right, now I remember. It is almost a certainty that it will happen at some point, but I had thought Season 6 was a little early for it. Perhaps not. Certainly if Tommen dies and Jaime is away at the time, Cersei will go totally mad and could do it!

      I also wonder what the chances are of Jaime dying this season…..

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    39. Boudica

      Agreed. I don’t want another Red Wedding. I want a real surprise which will be hard to achieve considering all that’s happened. A real twist that when you think about it you think ‘why didn’t I see that coming’.

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    40. harlequeen,

      Thank you.

      The most interesting quote to me is this: “He gets sucked into stuff that we’ve never seen him do before, against his better judgment. We will see him doing things that we haven’t seen him doing before.” He suddenly breaks into a laugh. “That’s not a sexual reference, even though it f—king sounds like one!”

      I think that in S6 Davos will start PRAYING. Remember that scene from S2 when he talked with his son? And that would be such a great arch, if Davos turns into a believer after one of his hopeless prayers is unexpectedly answered… So, I keep my fingers crossed. spoiler]

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    41. Boudica,

      I don’t think they are killing main characters to shock anymore,they are doing it because we are nearing the end of the story and some plotlines need to be cleaned off something Martin isn’t capable off .

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    42. Kay:

      I also wonder what the chances are of Jaime dying this season…..

      No chance, I suppose. Nikolaj, Lena and others had their contracts renewed for S7 as early as 2014.

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    43. a development towards the end of the season comparable to the Red Wedding “in term of epic-ness” that he says “is going to blow people’s minds.”

      Red Wedding 2.0?
      Fall of the Wall? (maybe is a bit to early for this if they go for 8 seasons or more)

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    44. The Sword Of The Moaning,

      I hear you. Tower of Joy scene is great and looking forward to that, but isn’t it awesome if that scene with the Targaryen sigil is Aegon’s conquest of Storms End? The tower there pretty much looked how it was describe in the book except its facing desert not sea.

      Yeah, totally dreaming here.

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    45. My guess is the shocking event is either Red Wedding 2.0 (although I kinda feel they won’t do that until Season 7, unless they spend some time setting up the groundwork for it in S6) or the Fall of the Wall.

      I keep on thinking that it would be a great season-ending cliffhanger. Especially if

      the Starks win the Bastard Bowl. It would be a great way to bring more tension into the Northern storyline.

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    46. Joe,

      The show and books went to a lot of trouble to get Melisandre to the Wall. And neither show nor books have introduced an “Ice” way to revive Jon. Assuming that M,B&W want to avoid heavy criticism for Deus ex Machina devices (which, ironically, R’hllor no longer would be!), they will use an introduced device.

      (Insofar as we can see in both show and books, the Old Gods

      seem to be limited to seeing and whispering: there is no evidence that they can save people, and a lot of people die near Weirwood trees without any of them coming back. None of the Northernerns or Wildlings ever mention the Old Gods doing this, even in old stories. And the Walkers will not bring Jon back as a wight, either: Jon needs to be Jon for the sake of the story, and the books indicate that something about Wall prevents the “wight” magic from working.)

      Jon Snow’s Curling Iron,

      heh, I doubt they will do that. They already have shown us how it was done. Interestingly, the trailer sets up an interesting possible parallel: both Red Priests in question are at a nadir in their faiths when this happens. But the other thing to remember is that it is not Melisandre or Thoros who are doing this: they are conduits for this R’hllor thing.

      I doubt that there will be a sacrifice in the books, either, particularly of that person. For one thing, Thoros never needed to sacrifice anybody to do this: he simply asks and the Red God grants. (This is very curious: usually the Red God demands a price.) Moreover,

      Selyse would never allow this for Jon. Instead, I would look for Selyse to instigate this on behalf of Stannis: given what we’ve seen of her, she will be in denial about Stannis’ fate, and she might get it in her head that she can “save” him from the fate announced in the Red Letter if she sacrifices Shireen to R’hllor.

      (That’s not in spoilers because of my conjecture, which is just that, but because characters dead on the show are involved.)

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    47. Luka Nieto: and the White Walkers approaching the Wall.

      I am betting on it going one step further: the Walkers getting through the Wall. My bet is that the Nationalist-Loyalist schism coupled with Ramsay’s actions are going to leave a figurative hole that becomes a literal hole.

      That would give them two seasons to deal with the plot element that was introduced in the very first scene of the series.

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    48. Boudica:
      Javi from Los Siete Reinos has also spoken about a main character or two big characters dying unexpectedly.

      I think it would be almost impossible to have another Red Wedding kind of shock at this stage. With the Red Wedding and Jon Snow’s death most of the biggest shocks have likely passed. Perhaps it could be shocking if we have the opposite effect. Instead of Starks being killed we will finally see the Starks getting revenge, that would also be a big moment. But there has also been some rumours that Rickon will die this season, but he is not a main character.

      I felt that way as well, nothing could beat the Red Wedding for shocking. But I thought that the death of Oberyn was rather shocking, the burning of Shireen was very shocking…..not in the same way, but still totally left me sitting up with chin on chest moments.

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    49. Maggie: He said two Main characters?? The main characters are all together 10!!This is like huge spoiler!
      ” the biggest shocks have likely passed” Not really..both of them where known and we waited for them…. if something like this happens this year and wihout any books to even hint to it, the shock will be huge.

      It seems like it might perhaps be one main character and an important character or something like that. It is from a podcast I dont understand Spanish so I am just going by what is being said.

      The problem is always that people have very different definitions about what it means to be a main or important character. Some people think Jorah, Davos, Theon and Brienne for example are main characters, While I personally wouldn’t place them into that category.

      Apparently it isn’t Jaime. Maybe it could be someone like Theon, Alfie Allen is doing a lot of promotion this year.

      Here is the link to the podcast:
      http://lossietereinos.com/podcast-de-hielo-y-fuego-96-analisis-del-primer-trailer-de-la-6a-temporada-de-juego-de-tronos/

      LordDavos: Agreed. I don’t want another Red Wedding. I want a real surprise which will be hard to achieve considering all that’s happened. A real twist that when you think about it you think ‘why didn’t I see that coming’.

      Killing characters is not so strange anymore, and on top of that there are not that many characters left to kill that would really shock people if they were to be killed off. The only ones left are properly Dany, Tyrion, Arya and Sansa, if one of them dies before season 8, I think people would be surprised. That is why it would almost be impossible for another Red Wedding type of situation.

      At this stage it would likely be more shocking or interesting if some of the good characters find some success. But then again people are different, there was a relatively strong reaction for example when Barristan died last season, and I would not really have expected that.

      Pablo Escobar: I don’t think they are killing main characters to shock anymore,they are doing it because we are nearing the end of the story and some plotlines need to be cleaned off something Martin isn’t capable off .

      I did not mean that they are just killing characters off for shock value, in my opinion all of the deaths we have seen had some purpose. Events like the Red Wedding for example were just shocking to people because that was not where they were expecting the character arcs to go.

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    50. To quote Dante:

      I’m stuck in this pit, working for less than slave wages, working on my day off. The goddamn steel shutters are closed. I deal with every backward-assed fuck on the planet. I smell like shoe polish. My ex-girlfriend is catatonic after fucking a dead guy, and my present girlfriend has sucked 36 dicks.

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    51. JCDavis: I felt that way as well, nothing could beat the Red Wedding for shocking. But I thought that the death of Oberyn was rather shocking, the burning of Shireen was very shocking…..not in the same way, but still totally left me sitting up with chin on chest moments.

      Those events were definitely shocking, but I dont think it elicits the same general kind of feeling or response as Ned Stark or the Red Wedding. We have a much closer emotional connection for example with the Starks because the story starts with them and we follow them through their trials and tribulations. Therefore I believe we would only experience the same sense of feeling or shock if Dany, Tyrion, Arya, Sansa and Bran were to die before the end of the story, without completing their missions.

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    52. Wimsey: I am betting on it going one step further: the Walkers getting through the Wall.My bet is that the Nationalist-Loyalist schism coupled with Ramsay’s actions are going to leave a figurative hole that becomes a literal hole.

      That would give them two seasons to deal with the plot element that was introduced in the very first scene of the series.

      Yeah I agree. I think S6 will peak with the wall falling at the same time as Kings Landing is burning. Ice and Fire.

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    53. Boudica: Some people think Jorah, Davos, Theon and Brienne for example are main characters, While I personally wouldn’t place them into that category.

      Davos, Theon and Brienne are all protagonists, but they are lesser protagonists than, say, Jaime or Show!Cersei, and all of them are lesser protagonists than the Big 6. There is some set of terms for types of protagonists (as opposed to true secondary characters, like Jorah, Stannis or Tywin), but I do not remember what they are.

      The big difference is that these characters are protagonists for some but not all of the individual stories: Jon, Daeny, Tyrion, Arya and Bran are protagonists in all of the stories, and look to be the primary characters for the story of that the entire series creates. (Literature rarely deals with series, so I do not know that there are official terms for these concepts.)

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    54. Apollo: Yeah I agree. I think S6 will peak with the wall falling at the same time as Kings Landing is burning. Ice and Fire.

      Wow, that could set up some really cool visual parallelisms and/or contrasts. That alone makes me hope that it ends up that way!

      The one reason I can see that it might not happen is that both Bran and Daeny have seen Drogon flying over Kings Landing: and I’ll be surprised if Daeny is back to Westeros by the end. However, maybe she gets there in the final episode.

      Of course, it might be more restricted: perhaps Cersei will just burn down the Red Keep. Kings Landing is supposed to be a pretty big place, so one major building burning down would still leave most of the city unscathed.

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    55. Wimsey,

      Oh yeah I can definitely imagine a scenario where Selyse has Shireen burned to help Stannis, but instead Jon comes back.

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    56. Jon Snow’s Curling Iron,

      If so, then I think that it will be a coincidence. Mel is all we need here. (In the absence of convincing evidence to the contrary, always go with the simplest solution!)

      Of course, where Book!Selyse & Co. will stand after the dust settles is an interesting question in and of itself. She was not fond of Jon: but Bowen Marsh makes it plain that he thinks that Stannis is a usurper trying to steal the throne from Robert’s legitimate sons. So, if the Nationalists prevail (and I suspect that they will, at least for a while), then Selyse might be evicted in short order.

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    57. Inga: “He gets sucked into stuff that we’ve never seen him do before, against his better judgment. We will see him doing things that we haven’t seen him doing before.”

      Basically sword fight.

      I think that in S6 Davos will start PRAYING. And that would be such a great arch, if Davos turns into a believer after one of his hopeless prayers is unexpectedly answered…

      Davos is too practical to pray or become a believer, but he has seen things crawl out of nightmares.

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    58. lalla,

      That’s what came to my mind as well. It reminds me of the imdb plot spoilers that were mentioned months ago. I didn’t pay them much heed because, well they were pretty much obviously not true as HBO wouldn’t be that careless. Anyways, that’s not to say whoever wrote it couldn’t have made at least one good guess:)

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    59. The way I see it is – season 6 is the “beginning of the end” of the series…the pace has to pick up in terms of “epic” moments, because let’s sadly face it, we are getting close to the climax of the entire story. I know that the actors always hype up the seasons, but I think they might be legit on point for season 6. Tower of Joy itself will (hopefully) finally reveal the answers to some long-awaited questions. That sequence alone gets me excited. Plus we have Jon coming back in some form, Battle of the Bastards, Nymeria (I hope), siege of Riverrun, possible Cleganebowl, Bran, and…the White Walkers. Didn’t they say months back that the Walkers will have an epic sequence larger than Hardhome? I look forward to their storyline the most, next to Jon’s. We know the LEAST about their motivations, and they are the lurking massive threat to mankind in Westeros…so I can’t wait to see what happens with them. Overall, I trust D&D, and am hopeful that they truly paid attention to their mistakes from season 5.

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    60. Wimsey: Wow, that could set up some really cool visual parallelisms and/or contrasts.That alone makes me hope that it ends up that way!

      The one reason I can see that it might not happen is that both Bran and Daeny have seen Drogon flying over Kings Landing: and I’ll be surprised if Daeny is back to Westeros by the end.However, maybe she gets there in the final episode.

      Of course, it might be more restricted: perhaps Cersei will just burn down the Red Keep.Kings Landing is supposed to be a pretty big place, so one major building burning down would still leave most of the city unscathed.

      That’s a fair point… But we don’t know if those dragon visions are in the past or the future do we?

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    61. LordDavos,

      Perhaps it is too late to chime in, but after reading all the messages about Red Wedding part 2 and what it could possibly be and/or nothing could top it… I didn’t see one post on one of the more obvious deaths that would, i think, bring a lot of shock, despair or even rage

      one of the dragons. Dany isn’t around, and let’s face it even when she was she didn’t have much time to spend with them let alone train them. I believe they are setting up the scenario quite obviously for at least one of the dragons to be lured away, captured, and/or even killed before endgame. Yes they are powerful, but they are still young, untrained and more or less been to domesticated to not fear humans. The Pit scene even sets up the idea that they are not invincible by showing a few of the spears penetrate Drogon’s body – and he is the most powerful.

      I’ve always felt as I read the books that something was going to happen to at least one of the dragons, the idea that all three will reach endgame, each with a hero as their bonded rider just borders on the type of typical generic fantasy trope that GOT is known for avoiding or at least twisting. There are so many scenarios that one could come up with on how Dany will lose one or even two of her dragons – she can only truly bond with one of them – so the fates of the other two are not as certain – anything could happen.

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    62. Rygritte: Aww, that would be so sweet.

      That would echo a scene from Bernard Cornwell’s Viking / Saxon series, which the BBC started to adapt to TV as The Last Kingdom:

      A Viking tyrant in a Northern stronghold sets his dogs on our heroes, but a Saxon princess who has had a breakdown after being abducted and abused can hold the dogs off. After all, they know her.

      I’ve pondered whether Theon’s connection to the dogs might become significant myself. The books spend a lot of time stressing how friendly they are to him, which might have been set up for a reason.

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