A New Game of Thrones Season 7 Trailer Debuts at Comic Con 2017!

We were expecting something fun out of Comic Con today, but our expectations were tempered, what with Game of Thrones already into season 7. Perhaps a bloopers reel, a behind the scenes special, perhaps just a really entertaining panel full of dirty jokes?

Well it’s not even noon on the east coast, and a juicy new trailer for season 7 has already turned up, apparently out of Comic Con! The trailer has a host of quotes and voiceovers, with some moments we’ve even already seen in the first episode. The trailer seems to cover the entire season, so beware of spoilers throughout! A helpful fan sent us a link to the Game of Thrones trailer, and we took a few screencaps for a closer look at the new and interesting material.

Select screencaps below the cut, which do include spoilers!

The video opens with Daenerys reminding us, “I was born to rule the Seven Kingdoms…and I will.”

But another queen, Cersei, tells her people (including Randyll and Dickon Tarly) that “The Mad King’s daughter will destroy the realm. We must stand together if we hope to stop her.” There’s several new or interesting images sprinkled through the trailer. It’s great to get a nice close-up of Tom Hopper as the recast Dickon.

The Mountain Qyburn Cersei etc

Our first look at Tom Hopper as Dickon Tarly, with James Faullkner as Randyll Tarly

Our first close-up of Tom Hopper as Dickon Tarly, with James Faullkner as Randyll Tarly

Cersei on the Throne

We see the Lannister army marching once again, and throughout there we spy the clash between the Lannisters and the Unsullied.

Lannister army

There’s several shots of the north, including this one with children- including a girl- being taught to handle a bow and arrow.

Children training

Jon pleads with people, “We can’t hope to defeat the Night King’s army on our own. Daenerys has dragon fire.” We see Lord Royce’s reminder that “A Targaryen cannot be trusted.” Welp.

Jon speaking

There’s a very telling new glimpse of Cersei…with Euron Greyjoy at her side. I’m guessing she likes his gift.

Cersei with Euron

As Littlefinger says in voiceover, “Everyone is your enemy,” we see Euron in King’s Landing once again, dragging someone tied to his horse, and while the shot isn’t completely clear- it’s easier to tell in the video. This does not bode well for

Yara
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Euron pulling

Euron pulling 2

There’s a lovely clear shot of Varys joining Melisandre on Dragonstone. What will the magic-hating eunuch have to say to the fire priestess?

Melisandre Varys

We see a large group of people ascending the Dragonstone stairs. Someone’s wearing a metallic gorget- a lot like the one we’ve seen Jon Snow wearing.

Group on Dragonstone stairs

“Everyone is your enemy. Everyone’s your friend. Every possible series of events is happening all at once.” Littlefinger speaks to Sansa. She’s still not thrilled to be in his presence.

Littlefinger speaking

Sansa listening

As he speaks, we see a flashing of images (mostly already seen in trailers before) including Daenerys waiting on the stairs on Dragonstone.

Dany waits

I’m getting pumped for this epic battle with the Unsullied. Judging by the wall coloring, this looks like Casterly Rock.

Unsullied ladder

And of course, a shot of a dragon loving their freedom.

Dragon

Around the :45 second mark, right after Yara and Ellaria are seen about to kiss, there’s a quick glimpse of our favorite stoneman, Jorah!

Jorah

Brightened up just to be sure!

Jorah lighter

As if the shot of Melisandre before wasn’t enough, we know for sure now that the Red priestess has turned to Daenerys thanks to this scene:

Daenerys and friends

Daenerys closeup

“I believe you have a role to play…as does another,” Melisandre tells Daenerys.

Melisandre

Which other does she refer to? We’ll have to wait to find out, won’t we.

What do you all think of the new trailer?

Updated 5:35PM– HBO has now officially released the trailer so we’ve updated the post with the HBO video!

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    1. When I first watched this trailer,

      I was told it was for episode 2, and it made me really confused.
      I think this definitely spans at least 2-3 episodes.

      And has Aidan’s accent changed again????

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    2. Well this was an unexpected treat!!

      If this isn’t a foreshadowing for a certain meeting, I don’t what is lol.

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    3. Hi. I dont’ want to be too spoiled (like in terms of leaks, etc), but I’ve watched the other 2 trailers. Is this one significantly more spoiler-y than those others? Like for example Trailer 2 with Jaime + Field of Fire was spoilery, but i didn’t mind that.

      Just a yes or no would be fine… Thanks!

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    4. zod,

      Yeah I know. But people who aren’t reading spoilers don’t know that, dude, and they need to be warned that there’s multi-episode spoilers in there. So shhh.

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    5. Mr Derp:
      Very interested to know the nature of Varys and Melisandre’s conversation

      Me too. I was wondering how Mel will get Dany to trust her, then remembered that Dany owes a lot to Mel’s sister-under-the-cowl, Kinvara.

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    6. Crud, I just posted about it in another thread. I guess I’ll just copy it here. 🙂

      “I believe you have a role to play… as does another.” – Melisandre
      That line and/or line of conversation should fire up some good discussion about Jon & Daenerys again. To tell the truth, I don’t think I ever considered scenes with Daenerys and Mel together until this offseason. It’s another interesting pairing. Daeny doesn’t seem like one that would enjoy being spoken to in riddles and such. 😛

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    7. So the ‘revolt’ Jon faces is because the North doesn’t want to work with Dany, even though she has dragons? This confirms to me that they will not take the news of Jon’s parentage well if they find out. Poor Jon.

      I spot Jon and Sansa overseeing the training in that screenshot. Will Sansa learn how to fight though?

      Who does Dany say that line to?

      Shut up, Littlefinger.

      Slay me Cersei!

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    8. QueenofThrones,

      Lol, in all seriousness, I really don’t know what some people consider spoilers anymore because everyone seems to have their own definition, so the answer to you is …maybe. 🙂

      I personally didn’t see anything in the trailer that was particularly revealing, but others can chime in as well to give their thoughts.

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    9. So much focus on Sam & Jorah. Two uninteresting characters who do nothing to progress the story forward. Sam at least is somewhat useful with the knowledge he’s learning..even though it’s quite obvious that Dragonstone would have Drangonglass. Jorah on the other hand is a character who should’ve died a long time ago. I get it that the actor who portrays Jorah is great but that’s not a reason to hold on to him. He exists merely to keep crawling back to Dany like a lovesick puppy begging her to forgive him. His story arc has run its course. Time to let him go. I am not even invested in his greyscale plot line because it’s quite obvious that at some point Sam will find a way to cure him. Their scenes take up valuable film time that could be used on other more interesting plot points or characters that actually help move the narrative forward. Don’t mean to nitpick, but we only have 7 episodes and then the year long wait starts again. There is no room for filler.

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    10. I am sorry, but I am just so distracted by Aidan Gillen’s literally growling line read.
      Hes a great actor, I just wish they’d tell him to play the character differently 🙁

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    11. Flayed Potatoes,

      Ikr, how many times and to how many people will Jon have to keep repeating the same thing lol, before they start taking him seriously!

      It’s not just dragonglass that’s Jon’s after, he wants the dragon fire too!

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    12. “dragons loving their freedom”

      The still shot of the dragon flying low over the walk path at Dragonstone just has to be from what we saw in those pap shots of individuals diving to the ground. We assumed a dragon had just flown over.

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    13. Mr Derp:
      QueenofThrones,
      Lol, in all seriousness, I really don’t know what some people consider spoilers anymore because everyone seems to have their own definition, so the answer to you is …maybe. 🙂
      I personally didn’t see anything in the trailer that was particularly revealing, but others can chime in as well to give their thoughts.

      For me I really don’t want leaks or filming spoilers. If it’s something released by HBO usually I don’t consider that a spoiler… Like I didn’t mind seeing hints of the future in Trailer 2.

      I guess this is somehow a weird grey area to me since it’s been released by HBO but only to a few people at comicon? Plus there are a lot more scary warnings in the post than for the other 2 trailers. *shrug*

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    14. Some great new shots.

      Am I the only one who thinks LF s lines are just lame? I mean they don’t even make any sense. Sooo annoying.

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    15. Apollo,

      They are kind of lame. But he’s just trying to say that one has to think of every possible outcome, every possible scenario, and plan for all of them.

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    16. What will the magic-hating eunuch have to say to the fire priestess?

      Not today.

      Whoever spotted Jorah must have been wearing night vision goggles. I can’t believe such an expensive show shoots scenes you can’t see.

      “I was born to rule the Seven Kingdoms…and I will.”

      I love how Emilia delivers this line. So many others sound like they’re phoning it in.

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    17. How spoilery is this?

      The article said it covers the season, but elsewhere it says it covers episodes 2 and 3.

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    18. Mr Derp: Flayed Potatoes,

      Probably something sassy about how winter is here and Jon shouldn’t be leaving the North to meet with a Targaryen in the South.

      I think so too.

      And yeah, Jon’s parentage is definitely gonna cause problems for him with the North. He just can’t catch a break ffs!

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    19. ghost of winterfell,

      I’d love to hear the alternate plan the Northern leaders have come up with to fight the Others since they seem to be shitting all over Jon’s plan to use Dragonglass and Dragonfire.

      I mean, I get the thought of using dragons would kinda freak people out, but what’s the alternate plan here?

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    20. I´m a bit worried about what Lyanna Mormort is going to say, lately seems like Jon needs her approval to do something, she´s cool but don’t overuse her.

      The Dragonstone throne room seems very dark in that encounter with Dany and Meli

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    21. Holy shit, now that’s hype served up on a plate. Sunday can’t get here soon enough!

      Flayed Potatoes:
      So the ‘revolt’ Jon faces is because the North doesn’t want to work with Dany, even though she has dragons?

      A wise King would listen to his people and allow them all to die an icy death, with their pride, convictions, and reservations intact. If Jon repeatedly states that fire kills wights and dragonglass kills white walkers, but his people are against him taking a calculated risk by trying to ally with someone who has dragon fire and currently lives near possibly the largest dragonglass mine in Westeros, then by golly he should listen. If they have understandable reservations about the Targs that they’re not willing to look past in the interest of survival, the right thing to do is to just fight the NK with an unprepared army less than one tenth the size of his and not even a fraction of the weaponry available in Westeros. Aaaaand, sarcasm mode off.

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    22. Oh this is exciting! Euron looks way too pleased with himself, which on one hand I love (I am enjoying Pilou’s portrayal of Euron) but on the other, it is bad news for the person who is the gift. A lot to get excited about! Thank you !!

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    23. Mr Derp:
      ghost of winterfell,

      I’d love to hear the alternate plan the Northern leaders have come up with to fight the Others since they seem to be shitting all over Jon’s plan to use Dragonglass and Dragonfire.

      I mean, I get the thought of using dragons would kinda freak people out, but what’s the alternate plan here?

      I am sure several GoT fans on WotW are figuring out the new plan as we speak lol 😉

      ghost of winterfell: I think so too.

      And yeah, Jon’s parentage is definitely gonna cause problems for him with the North. He just can’t catch a break ffs!

      “NK is at our doorstep, but first young man we need to be angry with you for something you had no control over!!11”

      Real talk, hopefully Jon’s mercy last episode comes in handy in the long run.

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    24. Rygritte: Whoever spotted Jorah must have been wearing night vision goggles. I can’t believe such an expensive show shoots scenes you can’t see.

      Do you mean in the premiere? His voice is unmistakable and his profile was quite clear just before Sam closed the opening. They purposely kept him in the dark for that scene of course…

      Some people often remark about “too dark” scenes. I have more issues with it on handheld devices but I can usually fix it by adjusting brightness.

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    25. Wow, those shots of Euron in the city streets – I’m assuming it’s Kings Landing, charming the townspeople. They do looked charmed, too. He’s running the whole game, isn’t he? He’s working Cersei, pounding down on Jaime, his competition for her, and becoming known and liked by the people. This part was unexpected, I never thought he’d be one to get down and dirty with “commoners.” Yet, there he is.

      No, it doesn’t look good for a certain someone

      but why in the world would Yara be a big deal to Cersei? She threw in with Dany, yes, but Cersei doesn’t know anything about her and has no big grudge against her. UNLESS what we didn’t see was that there was another prisoner behind Yara, namely Ellaria. Cersei and Jaime both would most definitely be interested in getting their hands on the one who murdered their daughter.

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    26. Littlefinger is getting on my last nerve, yet, sadly, I’m very interested in what he’s talking about. It sounds like tiresome and tiring advice, though. Fight everybody everywhere in your mind. That will wear a girl down in no time. What will Sansa’s reaction be to all that?

      Melisandre is there! Was she hiding in the Castle? Looks like it. I thought she’d show up as the old lady, but there she is in all her red-headed glory. Will she brazen it out when other visitors come calling? I guess it depends on how Dany accepts her.

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    27. Thronetender,

      I was thinking along similar lines. He’s like everyone’s your friend…everyone’s your enemy….

      And then Sansa’s like, well what the fuck are you then? That’s what I thought. Now get lost. (hopefully anyway)

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    28. Flayed Potatoes: They won’t take the threat seriously until they see it.

      I wonder what Lyanna Mormont will tell him.

      It seems like Jon will just struggle the whole season with people who dont believe him.

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    29. There is a quick flash of 2 people kissing not GW & M or E and Y … Cersei and Jamie?
      It’s too dark to make it out.

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    30. HelloThere: I am sorry, but I am just so distracted by Aidan Gillen’s literally growling line read.

      In an interesting plot twist Littlefinger is just going to die of throat cancer.

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    31. Flayed Potatoes,

      Yeah, I hope we see the payoff for Jon’s decision and it was not just a one-off scene

      Flayed Potatoes: “Fight the whitewalkers everywhere in your mind!!!11111“

      Well, this plan is inspired by Littlefinger, so it automatically must be brilliant!

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    32. Mr Derp: I was thinking along similar lines. He’s like everyone’s your friend…everyone’s your enemy….

      Littlefinger’s advice is probably good in the south, but his advice seems completely inadequate and almost naive against the White Walkers. Littlefinger is slightly out of his depth in the North, which is interesting to see.

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    33. I wonder if we will be getting a full blown battle with Casterly Rock.
      I have a feeling much of the taking of it will be offscreen.
      I think the 3 big battle scenes are
      1. Ship fight in episode 2
      2. Field of Fire 2.0 in episode 4
      3. Wight Mission in episode 6

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    34. “Everyone is your enemy. Everyone’s your friend. Every possible series of events is happening all at once.” Littlefinger speaks to Sansa. She’s still not thrilled to be in his presence.

      Lol, Littlefinger’s advice to Sansa is about as nonsensical as the “known unknowns” speech from Donald Rumsfeld in 2002:

      “There are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns — the ones we don’t know we don’t know. And if one looks throughout the history of our country and other free countries, it is the latter category that tend to be the difficult ones.”

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    35. The first shot of the dragon after the beach, it looks like the Dragon has someone in it’s claw. Could he bring Tyrion somewhere?

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    36. Video taken down eh. Too late – already saw it. 😛 I suppose it will be released officially through a Whisper e-mail link in a couple hours.

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    37. Rygritte:

      Whoever spotted Jorah must have been wearing night vision goggles. I can’t believe such an expensive show shoots scenes you can’t see.

      I certainly agree with that comment. One of my few beefs with the show is how dark some of the scenes are. Some of us (me included) are not so young and don’t have 20/20 vision any more.

      I could same for the audio? I’ve no idea why this is so low (i.e. On Sky Atlantic). The music is fine, but sometimes I can’t hear what is being said. I have to wind the volume almost to full, but then crank it back down very quick if there’s music!

      Its only on GoT I have this issue? Other HBO shows I’ve watched have been fine as are programs I watch on other channels… Strange huh?

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    38. McHughie:
      The first shot of the dragon after the beach, it looks like the Dragon has someone in it’s claw. Could he bring Tyrion somewhere?

      Nice find! Could be Tyrion.

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    39. Euron Greyjoy And His Two Good Hands,

      The meeting between Sam and Jorah is ESSENTIAL! It is the first conversation between people with first-hand knowledge of the WWs and the dragons.

      Predictions

      Their connection via Jeor Mormont will mean instant trust.

      Jorah will notify Dany of the WWs and tell her about Jon, and Sam will update Jon.

      Once cured, he will arrive at DS with info discovered by Sam about how to make VS steel.

      It involves melting obsidian, probably with dragon fire.

      Jorah reconciles with his family and convinces Lyanna of Dany’s importance in The Real War. She convinces Royce and the other northern lords.

      Jorah ends up with a VS sword, either Heartsbane (per Sam) or Longclaw.

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    40. It’s hard to tell really. I think it is sunlight reflecting off the dragon. It’s claws don’t appear clenched to me.

      If anything, it could be a animal like Clob said. I highly doubt it is Tyrion lol. Seems like a inglorious mode of transportation.

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    41. Awww….. Mel! She believes that yet another someone has a role to play, as does someone else. Poor Stannis in his grave – I wonder what he is thinking now! And everyone he burned based on her “insight”, including poor Shireen. Mel is such a Lord of Light worshipper, I hope she sacrifices her old bones for a crunchy meal for Drogon and his siblings this season….. 😀

      Good trailer; lots of nice snippets. JORAH! My man! Who knew that long ago when the news first broke that D&D had decided to convert a meeting between a few people in the throne room to a giant spectacle and march through King’s Landing, that it would be a triumphant procession for Euron Greyjoy! So much speculation at that time, but none about good old Euron!
      This season sure will move fast!

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    42. ramses: Seems like a inglorious mode of transportation.

      No kidding! Unless the hobb… person were weak or passed out next to an erupting volcano and the eag…. dragon swoops in and grabs the person.

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    43. There’s plenty of copies of the video up on the YouTube. The first copy was taken down, but I embedded a different version. If that one gets taken down, all you have to do is go to YouTube and type “Game of Thrones Comic Con trailer” and voila.

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    44. ” As he speaks, we see a flashing of images (mostly already seen in trailers before) including Daenerys waiting on the stairs on Dragonstone.”

      We can also see

      Jon going down stairs far behind – in this same picture

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    45. HelloThere:
      I am sorry, but I am just so distracted by Aidan Gillen’s literally growling line read.
      Hes a great actor, I just wish they’d tell him to play the character differently 🙁

      In an interview a couple month back he said he had been very sick during filming.

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    46. Flayed Potatoes:
      So the ‘revolt’ Jon faces is because the North doesn’t want to work with Dany, even though she has dragons? This confirms to me that they will not take the news of Jon’s parentage well if they find out. Poor Jon.

      I spot Jon and Sansa overseeing the training in that screenshot. Will Sansa learn how to fight though?

      Who does Dany say that line to?

      Shut up, Littlefinger.

      Slay me Cersei!

      Not necessarily. It’s Yohn Royce from the Vale saying it, not a northerner. He may be the only one or maybe one of just a few dissenting opinions. Doesn’t mean the rest of them will agree.

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    47. Nothing really new but a very nice trailer still !

      Daenerys mentions the Seven Kingdoms again. I am certain she is going to love the idea of an independent North…

      Well done Cersei ! She did manage to get the Tarlys on her side and backstab Olenna. That plus Euron… The Queen is evening the odds and getting her hands on precious resources.

      Jorah still has eczema. He really should moisturise, poor man !

      Euron looking as spiffy and demented as ever : fantastic !

      Melisandre and Daenerys, now that I have got to see… The Red Woman believed Stannis was Azor A’hai, then she though it was Jon now she has to factor in Daenerys. Funny how the person who feeds her is always the Chosen One (I kid… Maybe not)

      Jon still has to deal with fracture lines in his own camp. Not only do people not really get the stakes of the War to come, the Targaryens did leave a bad taste in Westeros’s mouth. So the idea of an alliance with a Dragon may prove unpopular. In the clip, we only see Lord Royce oppose the idea but, considering the Mad King was responsible for the deaths of two Starks, Northerners may not be delighted at the prospect either. Time to put the “Educator-in-Chief” t-shirt on and get explaining, Jon !

      Mr Derp,
      Was it meant as a piece of advice or as a description ?

      Far from me the desire to defend Donald Rumsfled whom I thoroughly despise but this quote may actually be the one smart thing he has ever said in his entire career : it is a textbook definition of an institutional response to structural crises (or, in Baelish-talk, “chaos”); the predictability of the agents’ decisions is lowered drastically and performative capitals are fluid and hard to identify.

      The idea that the Great War will be apolitical seems fundamentally strange to me, I have to confess. The White Walkers may not be political beings (though they operate according to a hierarchical social structure and have religious monuments and clearly understand the concept of bargaining… Scratch that, they are political) but the humans’ response to them cannot not be political in its elaboration.
      The Great War will require for alliances to be made, deals to be struck, resources to be distributed, leaders to be chosen, etc. All of that is, at its core, political.

      Who will provide the enormous amounts of food the human army will require ? If the vast majority of the food is allocated to the army, what will non-combatants eat ? Weaponising the majority of the population is a good idea but some people cannot fight at all (small children, old people, the sick, the infirm), should they stay where they are and hope the White Walkers do not pass by or should they be relocated in more secure spots ?
      When/if Jon makes a deal with Daenerys, will he be in charge of the war strategy or will she ? Will they co-lead ? If so, were they to disagree about the tactic to adopt, who breaks the tie ?
      Is it wise for the North to try to make a deal with Cersei ? If so, what should the terms be ? Does she co-lead with the other two monarchs ?

      A threat does not need to be political in nature for the fight against it to be so. After all, viruses are not famous for their political sensibilities yet, depending on rulers and their (eminently political) decisions, we can end up with either a quickly contained danger and few deaths (cf. Ebola virus epidemic in the US in 2014) or a full blown outbreak and many casualties (cf. AIDS epidemic in the US in the 1970s-1980s).

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    48. In the end it won’t matter if the Northerners have a problem with Jon’s parentage. There’s only so many episodes left, and Jon has a major part to play in keeping the realm safe. His Targaryen blood will likely be looked at as a benefit by that point.

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    49. I watched and froze the video a few more times before it disappeared again, there is nothing in the dragon’s grip.

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    50. Thronetender,

      UNLESS what we didn’t see was that there was another prisoner behind Yara, namely Ellaria.

      You’re absolutely right – and you actually can see Ellaria in the Throne Room scene where Euron delivers his gift: Screenshot

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    51. Michael,

      Thanks Michael.

      As an FYI, an email address appears when I click the link. If you’re not comfortable with that being visible in a “public” forum, perhaps request a mod delete your comment?

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    52. Apollo,

      You’re not the only one lol. Littlefinger has been spouting some really nonsensical lines this season. Especially the one in the trailer 2 for this season. ” Fight every battle, everywhere, always in your mind??” WTF is that suppose to mean. It’s so obvious the dude dies this season, the show has not known what to do with him since season 5.

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    53. Isabelle:
      Not sure how long this will be up, but someone else has the video:

      FYI – anyone can go to streampocket.com enter the youtube url and you can download the video to your computer.

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    54. Anyone else think that Drogon flying looks like he might be at King’s Landing? Just looks a little bright to be Dragonstone…

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    55. Hexonx:

      FYI – anyone can go to streampocket.com enter the youtube url and you can download the video to your computer.

      Now that would be useful – thank you! Have you ever had issues with quality or bugs?

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    56. Lyannabanna,

      Sure, it’s Jaime. I mean nobody expects her to kiss Euron. We don’t even know if she is going to approve the proposal even though she likes the gift. If she approves it, still it’s going to be a very fake marriage.

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    57. Jake:
      Anyone else think that Drogon flying looks like he might be at King’s Landing? Just looks a little bright to be Dragonstone…

      Nope – it looks like the exact same crenellations that we’ve already seen of Dragonstone. I also think the first dragon shot is the same scene as the second one. In the second one we can see the winding path below/behind it.

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    58. Markus Stark:
      Euron Greyjoy And His Two Good Hands,

      I don’t think you quite understand the significance of Jorah and Sam meeting. Neither character is insignificant, and Jorah will likely have an important part to play.

      I understand what your saying but it’s just my opinion. They can certainly help convince Dany of the WW existence & Jon of the dragons but a meeting btwn Dany and Jon themselves could achieve that. I also believe that Sam is somewhat useful, it’s Jorah I have my doubts about. And if he is important to the story, which he might be, I hope they focus more on that in the future instead of having all his scenes being devoted to him running back to Dany and begging her to forgive him. I’d like to see him do something else to move the plot forward. I hope we see that moving forward.

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    59. HelloThere,

      Jon earned Longclaw. It’s his. Just like Brienne earned Oathkeeper. Jorah gave Longclaw up when he went into exile and brought shame on his family.

      He should try borrowing Heartsbane though. It’s not like Sam can wield it.

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    60. cozmeesah,

      The North doesn’t exactly have a good history with the Targaryens (see Mad King). I don’t think they’ll be too welcoming, but we shall see.

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    61. Flayed Potatoes,

      Tough call for them, Dany or Cersei. But I think most of the kingdom respect Rhaegar even though they abhorred the mad king. So they may make the assumption that Dany is more like Rhaegar than the mad king (they may also be wrong in that assumption). Their first introduction to Dany will probably be her with the dragons laying waste to the Lannister armies.

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    62. Some of the shots in that trailer – even the ostensibly casual ones that are just establishing shots for certain locations – are absolutely breathtaking in their cinematic scope. Spending 10 episodes worth of money and time on 7 episodes of the show looks to be paying off in spades.

      If this is the greatness that they’re willing to divulge in a trailer in order to increase our levels of hype, I can only imagine what incredible wonders they’re keeping under wraps for when the episodes actually air!

      Plot-wise, it’s cool to see Cersei holding an audience with Randyll Tarly, paying off the question that she raised in the premiere: “Will the Tyrell bannerman want to fight beside a Dothraki horde and Unsullied slave soldiers?” Jaime was understandably skeptical – the bannerman will flock to whatever side they think will win, and right now, the Lannisters’ prospects aren’t great. But given that the show established Randyll’s intense xenophobia towards wildlings last year, it makes perfect sense that he would be disgusted by the prospect of savage Dothraki and foreign Unsullied comprising the bulk of Dany’s force. Throw in Cersei’s alllusions to Dany as the Mad King’s daughter, and House Tyrell having no future, and he’s a natural Lannister ally.

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    63. Isabelle: Now that would be useful – thank you! Have you ever had issues with quality or bugs?

      This particular video is not very good quality so if you are wanting to take screen shots they won’t come out very well but when you get a good quality video on youtube the downloaded video usually looks just as good.

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    64. Hexonx: This particular video is not very good quality so if you are wanting to take screen shots they won’t come out very well but when you get a good quality video on youtube the downloaded video usually looks just as good.

      I see HBO has finally uploaded to their channel so you can download that one and the quality will be fine.

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    65. I haven’t read the leaks, but all the information in the three trailers and the next time trailer means I have pieced together pretty much the entire plot of episodes 2-4.

      I think I probably shouldn’t watch GoT trailers anymore.

      I hope there are still some surprises left for me.

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    66. Chuck,

      But rumor has it that Rhaegar “kidnapped” and “raped” Lyanna Stark, leading to Robert’s Rebellion. I doubt the Northerners have a high opinion on Rhaegar, either.

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    67. @Kay – Mel is talking about Jon. Or are you really to daft to see that. And if you say this about Mel what is your opinion on Thormund who killed Villages of people. Mel did what she did and stannis gave the order. Also remember if all of this had not happened Jon would still be a freakin Corpse.

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    68. elybe,

      Jon is doing the exact same thing he did as Lord Commander that led to the mutiny against him. He’s making all his decisions based on what he knows is coming and disregarding the concerns of everyone else who hasn’t seen what Jon has seen.

      Is he correct to focus entirely on the coming war against the Night’s King? Yes, of course. We, the viewers have the same knowledge he has so we know he’s right. But the northern Lords and Ladies don’t have that knowledge. But many of them do remember the Mad King and the war against the Targaryens so it is perfectly reasonable for them to be hesitant about aligning with Danaerys.

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    69. Mike,

      But why did Mel keep roasting people, misinterpret flames images, and completely miss the boat on Stannis, while Beric, Thoros – and now Sandor Ahai – seem to be getting clear reception and quality programming from the Lord of Light?
      More important: When will Sandor get his hands on Lightbringer?

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    70. Isabelle:
      Is that a Sand Snake at 0:40, between the shots of Arya and the Dragonstone stairs?

      I was about to ask that myself. Some woman getting stabby in what appears to be the cabin or hold of a ship.

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    71. OT…. But for all the talk about Jaime’s “redemption” arc, aside from a few meet-ups with Brienne, he’s still Cersei’s Enabler-in-Chief.

      Meanwhile… talk about “redemption arcs”…. What an amazing story we’re seeing with The Hound nka Sandor Clegane soon to be known as The Warrior of Light aka The Last Hero.
      I felt so bad for him when he was digging graves in the frozen ground for Rabbit Stew Sally and her father.
      Sandor Clegane: from Worst Sh*t in the Seven Kingdoms to Best Hope of the Seven Kingdoms.

      (*Prays Sandor does an axe-disemboweling of Littlefinger*)

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    72. Firannion: I was about to ask that myself. Some woman getting stabby in what appears to be the cabin or hold of a ship.

      It’s Tyene. That shot was in a previous promo and was scrutinized then. It’s her (with her hair grown out) and her trusty dagger.

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    73. Sue the Fury: It’s Tyene. That shot was in a previous promo and was scrutinized then. It’s her (with her hair grown out) and her trusty dagger.

      I probably missed something, but is the Dorne contingent of Dany’s gang just Ellaria and kids? Or do they have any sort of Dorne army?

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    74. Pigeon,

      Dorne’s army and navy is with Dany as well. We saw the Martell sigil on the sails of several ships in Dany’s armada in “The Winds of Winter” (I believe you can also see at least one Martell ship in the background when Dany arrives at Dragonstone in the premiere).

      One of the reasons that Ellaria ultimately killed Doran is because he wouldn’t commit Dorne’s army to a war against the Lannisters. Now, that war is here. Ellaria had previously asserted in “The House of Black and White” that the Sand Snakes had the love of their people, and the unflinching reactions of the Dornish guards when Ellaria assassinated Doran supports the idea that she had the backing of the army for her coup. We don’t know how large their contribution to Dany’s forces are, but it’s significant enough that Varys thought it was worth taking the long trip from Meereen to Westeros to bring them under the Dragon Queen’s banner (and, as a bonus, he got Olenna and the disgruntled Tyrell forces as well).

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    75. Pigeon,

      I believe they have the entire Dornish army behind them; whatever was left over from their coup.

      This is the math that has tripped me up from the end of last season. Dany, the dragons, unsullied, Dothraki, plus Dornish army, Tyrell army, small contigent of Ironborn and whatever armies in Westeros join them. On the other side, Lannisters, Euron Greyjoy and company and what else? Dany’s side should crush them. Clearly, something else comes into play here, can’t figure out what.

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    76. Chuck,

      From the trailer for next week KL will have the Tarlys.

      Supposedly Dany has 100,000 Dothraki, which just seems overwhelming not matter what is thrown at them. The dragons seem like overkill.

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    77. Chuck: This is the math that has tripped me up from the end of last season. …. Clearly, something else comes into play here, can’t figure out what.

      Simply “creative writing” – manufactured numbers and strengths on both sides plus decisions and circumstances/situations that probably wouldn’t happen will happen to even out the playing field.

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    78. Ten Bears: What an amazing story we’re seeing with The Hound nka Sandor Clegane soon to be known as The Warrior of Light aka The Last Hero.

      You’re pretty set on that for some reason aren’t you… or is that simply your desire? 😛 He certainly does make the BwoB a less boring bunch for me.

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    79. Boojam,

      Really? Good, I like him. He was a little shit bully to Arya in the first season when he tried to take Needle, Arya threatened to run him through and Gendry gave him hell for picking on the little kids. But as they suffered the same horrors together, he became lovable. So even he has had a little arc. It’s good for Arya to have old friends.

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    80. You’d think a tough, by-the-book old bird like Randyll Tarley would balk at the thought of renouncing the Martell name

      to go fight for Cersei. I couldn’t figure what could make him do such a thing until someone earlier mentioned his phobias about Wildings and equated them to probable phobias about unsullied and Dothraki. That makes sense. I can just hear the old curmudgeon spouting off to Dickon about what a disgrace it is.

      He’s sure to still be incensed over Sam taking Heartsbane, which makes me smile every time I think about it. I just hope Sam didn’t have to hock Heartsbane for money for Gilly and toddler Sam to live on. He knows how valuable it is.

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    81. mmk,

      Yeah, but that was one of the most absurd things they’ve ever done.

      Even more absurd is that Jon uses the same camp where Stannis was attacked by Ramsay, yet Ramsay doesn’t use his 20 good men on Jon.

      I mean, if you can somehow sneak into a well prepared and provisioned Baratheon camp, kill most of their horses and burn all their food, why can’t you do the same to a band of 2000 Wildlings and some 400 Northerners ?

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    82. Jared,

      That makes a lot of sense – thank you! I had forgotten about the sigil on the ship at the end of last season!

      Chuck,

      It does seem pretty stacked, right? It’s like you almost know something has to happen because it looks too easy! Which is never the case on Game of Thrones!

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    83. Thronetender:
      He’s sure to still be incensed over Sam taking Heartsbane, which makes me smile every time I think about it.

      Still makes no sense to me that Randyll didn’t just ride after Sam and take the sword back. He knew who took it and where they were heading and Sam was traveling in a slow carriage.

      Speaking of Tarleys, just based on the photo above I think I preferred last season’s Dickon to the new one. I may feel different after seeing him in a whole scene, but last season’s actor looked like he could be Sam’s younger brother. The new guy appears older.

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    84. Boojam:
      Interesting that IMDB lists Hot Pie as being in episode 2.

      I’m not surprised…

      Something along those lines was mentioned re ep2 in the Quarantine section in the forums

      !!!

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    85. Linda: Jon and Gendry, IMHO, are who she means.

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      It is interesting that Mel seems to know all about Gendry , which is never explained.
      Maybe it’s the hierarchy of R’hllor , they seem to know much even if their clergy make mistakes.
      Does she know all about Jon and never said anything?
      Did Mel go directly to Dragonstone?
      Would that have been on orders from Volantis?

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    86. Lord of Coffee: Still makes no sense to me that Randyll didn’t just ride after Sam and take the sword back.He knew who took it and where they were heading and Sam was traveling in a slow carriage.

      Speaking of Tarleys, just based on the photo above I think I preferred last season’s Dickon to the new one.I may feel different after seeing him in a whole scene, but last season’s actor looked like he could be Sam’s younger brother.The new guy appears older.

      Tom looks about 40 here and is half a foot taller than Freddie, which doesn’t help. I found it a bit jarring too, but I’m sure he’ll do well.

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    87. Lord of Coffee,

      He’s not necessarily disregarding anyone’s concerns by supporting his own position with the facts. We haven’t even seen his reply to the statement that “A Targaryen can’t be trusted,” so the notion that he’s dismissive of it has no support yet.

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    88. Golden hand the sister fooker:
      Apollo,

      You’re not the only one lol. Littlefinger has been spouting some really nonsensical lines this season. Especially the one in the trailer 2 for this season. ” Fight every battle, everywhere, always in your mind??” WTF is that suppose to mean. It’s so obvious the dude dies this season, the show has not known what to do with him since season 5.

      Thats actually a great line. Hes telling her to know all the moves before they happen. Play out the scenarios in her mind so shes prepared for any eventuality. It makes perfect sense.

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    89. Markus Stark,

      Context. Before, Ramsay was trying to prove himself to dad. His 20 good men mission was a way to show his worth ala Faramir. Once he was in control he was confident and not threatened by the smaller forces. Stannis was a bigger threat than Jon Snow and a band of Wildlings.

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    90. Lord of Coffee,

      True but Edd and Tormond saw the Night King raise the dead, and Jon also has Davos and his wise words. Lady Mormont doesnt hurt either. Hes not alone in front of the lords. And hes King.

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    91. Ser Broccoli McBroccoliface: Thats actually a great line. Hes telling her to know all the moves before they happen. Play out the scenarios in her mind so shes prepared for any eventuality. It makes perfect sense.

      But that’s common sense? Like, that’s what everyone is already doing? Jon is playing out scenarios for a WW attack and planning for it. Jaime is playing out scenarios if Dany attacks and how to counter it. Anyone who plays chess knows that we think of different possible moves and plan our own moves.

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    92. SerNoName: But that’s common sense? Like, that’s what everyone is already doing? Jon is playing out scenarios for a WW attack and planning for it. Jaime is playing out scenarios if Dany attacks and how to counter it. Anyone who plays chess knows that we think of different possible moves and plan our own moves.

      Common sense isn’t always that common, though. Sometimes you aren’t able to see something even if it’s right in front of you. At least, that’s how I feel in the shampoo aisle.

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    93. Ten Bears,

      This isn’t an answer to Mike’s question, simply an observation. As is true in our own world, the world of ASoIaF and GoT provides us with very different interpretations, on the characters’ parts, of different religions. In both cases, the “know-it-alls” turn out to be little more than arrogant, hotheaded zealots, while the people who might come across as bumbling ignoramuses (ignorami?) are truer “servants of the Lord.”

      A sharp contrast is drawn between the High Sparrow (who seems to have been inspired by Savonarola) and Brother Ray, an amalgam of two characters from the books. The first is utterly convinced of his own spiritual superiority, and feels no guilt whatsoever about manipulating and humiliating those he believes to be beneath him (especially those in power). The second openly admits that he understands very little about the gods, and refuses to pass judgment or exact punishment on “sinners.” Interestingly, both admit to sinful behavior in the past; but whereas Brother Ray openly discusses his past sins with his congregation, the High Sparrow only speaks of his own with Margaery—and in a moment when he perceives that she is most “receptive”/easy to bully into doing what he wants her to do.

      In a similar vein, the Red Priestesses of the Lord of Light make definitive pronouncements to the masses—yet, as we have seen, at least one of them has been terribly mistaken about what she believed she saw in the flames. In contrast, Thoros and Beric do not pretend to know more than they do; in fact, they openly admit to Sandor that they have no idea why they have been granted the power to resurrect and be resurrected (respectively), and seem to be as stunned by these developments as Sandor is.

      On a slightly different note: Like many other commenters (on other threads) I am glad that D&D did not include LSH in the TV adaptation. I agree that her character dilutes the power and finality of the Red Wedding. Having said that, the character’s exclusion from the show does result in one unfortunate consequence: with Beric and Jon being the sole “resurrectees” in GoT, there is an unfortunate contrast between the people who have experienced the Lord’s ultimate power being male and profoundly aware of their shortcomings, and the people who most zealously advocate for the Lord’s “cleansing fire” to be females who use their sexuality to lure would-be believers.

      I do hope this sharply bifurcated narrative is tempered by what might be an unexpected (and welcome, to me) redemption arc: that of Melisandre, who, in her very, very old age, has finally mustered the courage to admit she was wrong and might even be able to do some good in the end. As Wimsey (dammit, I miss him right now) has noted, Melisandre is not evil; she is simply a zealot. And one of the most powerful threads in both ASoIaF and GoT is that most people really can be redeemed. Rapists and torturers? Probably not; they are psychopaths, with a quite literal piece missing in their minds. Murderers and religious zealots? Possibly, depending on the circumstances of their murderous/zealous actions. For them, there is still hope of seeing the proverbial light.

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    94. Ser Broccoli McBroccoliface:
      Markus Stark,

      Context. Before, Ramsay was trying to prove himself to dad. His 20 good men mission was a way to show his worth ala Faramir. Once he was in control he was confident and not threatened by the smaller forces. Stannis was a bigger threat than Jon Snow and a band of Wildlings.

      And yet he still felt the need to lay a trap for Jon.

      You can rationalize it that way if you want, but to me Ramsay’s behavior just doesn’t make sense.

      If the 20 good men thing worked that well and so easily, you would just do it every time.

      There’s also no explanation for why Ramsay uses like less than 10% of his cavalry against Jon. All 5000 of his men were on horseback in the Season 5 finale against Stannis.

      Against Jon he has 6000 men, and presumably some Umber and Karstark cavalry, yet only a tiny fraction of his men are riding, and after only a few minutes his and Jon’s cavalries cancel each other out. Everyone is on foot shortly after the cavalries clash and destroy each other, as if the two were evenly numbered.

      We know Jon only had about 400 horses.

      It just isn’t very logical. Ramsay’s entire army could have been on horseback and wiped Jon out within minutes.

      Instead the overwhelming majority of his army is on foot.

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    95. Golden hand the sister fooker,

      Agreed. The ideas they’re trying to convey with these lines, aka prepare for every possible outcome, plan several moves ahead, map it all out in your mind, are actually perfectly good ideas for LF to communicate to Sansa.

      Unfortunately the way it’s written just doesn’t play that well, it ends up sounding a little too jumbled and confused, rather than sounding like eloquent wisdom.
      It’s just written clumsily, I think.

      But yeah, they’ve been struggling with LF a lot since Season 5.

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    96. Great Trailer

      The Euron thing is quite telling, eg in E1 he wasn’t allowed up the stairs etc but in that shot he is, and he’s in Jaimies spot etc

      Will be fascinating to see the Varys/Melisandre/Dany scenes

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    97. Ser Broccoli McBroccoliface: Play out the scenarios in her mind so shes prepared for any eventuality. It makes perfect sense.

      It makes sense the way you said it, not so much sense the way we are hearing it from him. Of course, it’s only one phrase we’re hearing out of context, he might have more clearly phrased thoughts when we hear it all (but I doubt it)

      Edit: I see that Markus had the same idea, also more well worded than the script

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    98. Lord of Coffee: Still makes no sense to me that Randyll didn’t just ride after Sam and take the sword back. He knew who took it and where they were heading and Sam was traveling in a slow carriage.

      True – maybe that will be explained in the next episode if/when we see more of Sam. I’m figuring we will because Dany has landed and Sam will need to scurry down to tell Jorah. Maybe there will be a line or two about evading his father’s soldiers or something like that. Yet, I’m still glad Sam took it.

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    99. “I’ve heard she beat the Hound in single combat”

      Sorry – not commenting on the trailer, but I just watched S7E1 “Dragonstone” again-again…again 🙂 and something odd suddenly occured to me, which I haven’t seen anyone address. Though I wish I had, I don’t have the time to read all comments in every article, so I might have missed it, but…

      Right after the Brienne/Pod training scene in the courtyard, Littlefinger says the following to Sansa: “I’ve heard she beat The Hound in single combat”. So my question is: How the heck does LF know about this fight and it’s outcome?? The only characters with this knowledge are Brienne, The Hound, Arya, Podrick and to some extend, Septon Ray (possibly Septon Ray’s congregation, although I generally doubt The Hound would’ve shared the information about this defeat with them).

      Who is the source of this knowledge?

      * BRIENNE – highly unlikely, as I can’t imagine her leasurely having conversations with LF (whom she despise so much) “off camera” at Winterfell, and before that, they haven’t met each other since S5E2 at the inn.
      * THE HOUND – impossible, as LF hasn’t met him since I can’t even remember, and certainly not anytime after the fight (or met anyone The Hound has been around since then).
      * ARYA – impossible for the same reason, as they haven’t been anywhere near each other since Harrenhal in S2E6.
      * PODRICK – hmm…possible. He is a bit gullible 😉 and could at some point have told LF about it at Winterfell. On the other hand – he knows LF from way back at KL and has learned a lot from Tyrion and Brienne since. He is also highly aware of Brienne’s distrust towards LF and has supported Brienne in this all along.
      * SEPTON RAY (and his congregation) – impossible. In S6E7 The Hound did tell Ray, that he lost to a woman, and we don’t know, if he later told him which woman, BUT…well bye-bye Ray and all off your friendly followers, so not possible.

      Is Podrick the good-hearted Podrick Payne we think he is? He may appear to be a simple-minded squire, BUT come to think of it now, he has sometimes been a lot smarter and more knowledgeable, than he lets people think. Could LF really have gotten to him? Maybe that’s the unknown reason, Pod didn’t have to pay anything for all the prostitutes Tyrion and Bronn gave him?

      Or is there a simple reason for LF’s knowledge about the fight, that I have just missed? Let me hear your thoughts…

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    100. Markus Stark: There’s also no explanation for why Ramsay uses like less than 10% of his cavalry against Jon. All 5000 of his men were on horseback in the Season 5 finale against Stannis.

      I think that Ramsay was totally obsessed with thwarting Jon in anything he, Jon, attempted and mocking Jon’s “goodness” and love for other people. Ramsay loved no one, felt love was weakness and most of all wanted to best the other bastard.

      Those first three arrows he shot at Rickon were not misses, imho, they were teases. Ramsay had already shown himself to be pretty proficient with a bow and arrow; he should/could have killed Rickon with that first arrow if he wanted. He waited until Rickon was almost in Jon’s arms before he made the killing shot; he dangled Rickon’s safety in front of Jon to mock him.

      It was the same with Wun Wun, after Wun Wun and Jon broke through the gates. Ramsay had the upper hand; he could have shot Jon with the arrow that ultimately killed Wun Wun, but chose to wait until Jon reached for Wun Wun, again mocking Jon’s protective, loving feelings. Most likely, Jon’s incoming forces would have quelled Ramsay no matter what, but there was still a chance he might have escaped. By being so obsessed with thwarting Jon and killing Wun Wun instead, he guaranteed his capture and death. (thank the gods)

      Now, after typing all this and re-reading what you said about the use of the cavalry, I’m not sure how to tie it in with Ramsay’s obsession to thwart and mock Jon, unless it was to show Jon that he, Ramsay, could beat Jon with a smaller mounted force than was used against Stannis. Or else it was the choice of the writers because it looked better on screen, and I’m way off. But I still hold to the theory that Ramsay was obsessed with hurting Jon.

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    101. Ten Bears,

      I must admit I hadn’t been convinced by your Sandor Ahai theory before the first episode of season 7, no matter how much I like The Hound. But, while watching him reading in the flames, I suddenly remembered your predictions. Kudos for your intuition!

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    102. Throwing out some random thoughts for feedback but some of it could be spoilery to some. I have posted on the forums once or twice in the past but it’s not recognizing my username now for whatever reason so is why I post here.

      Samwell Tarley is the cause of much problems for his friend Jon when you think about it. He’s the one Jon had to rescue on the ground which in turn made the lord commander pissed off at him. He’s the one who got Jon elected LC which i what gave Jon the power to commit an act he ended up getting killed over. He deserts Jon in dire times, omitting telling what Stannis said about dragonglass being on DS which coudl have been retrieved much easier before Dany arrived. After Jon gets a raven from Tyrion and decides will be safer not to go, one is received from Sam which makes up his mind TO go. This puts him at odds with the northern houses and leaves the north/Sansa wide open to LF etc also if things go down like I think they might, when Jon is away with Dany that’s when the north finds out he’s not Ned’s but a Targaryen and they will almost certainly question his loyalty, wondering if Jon KNEW this and is why he’s siding with the Targ queen, to take over the 7 kingdoms, or whatever (Until the WW threat becomes real to them, they could continue to focus on politics.)

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    103. Dead Dane Walking: PODRICK – hmm…possible. He is a bit gullible and could at some point have told LF about it at Winterfell. On the other hand – he knows LF from way back at KL and has learned a lot from Tyrion and Brienne since. He is also highly aware of Brienne’s distrust towards LF and has supported Brienne in this all along.

      IMO, Podrick was the source. But I didn’t take it to mean that Pod had a direct conversation with LF. Pod may have chatted with others at Winterfell about the feat of the one he was square to, Brienne, and LF came to know from general chatter and amazement of a woman warrior in the Winterfell grounds.

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    104. Dead Dane Walking,

      Or is there a simple reason for LF’s knowledge about the fight, that I have just missed? Let me hear your thoughts…

      Good catch – its not like one of his spies were in that empty place, unless Pod is more than he is You are right there have been many times Pod is much less the bumbling squire and suddenly more than a little bit useful. I could see Pod and LF sharing a pint and LF asking him about Brienne, and Pod telling him along with other things that indicate he is working for LF. Or Pod is simply proudly bragging about her fighting skills.

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    105. Dead Dane Walking,

      I think you’re overthinking this. Pod is a squire, not a leader. When the leaders are conferring, he’s hanging out with the other servants and smallfolk. He’s rather in awe of Brienne and would naturally gossip about her exploits. Word would spread quickly among the servants, and Littlefinger knows they’re a great source of information.

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    106. Whoo-hoo!

      First caught this in the afternoon, in bright sunlight on my tablet, which made it difficult to see, especially the darker scenes/screengrabs.

      It’s all gearing up, it’s going to be massive and intriguing.

      Euron by Cersei’s side, wtf! Where’s Jaime?!? (fingers and toes crossed he finally sees the light…)

      That glimpse of a “bowmaster” teaching the kids archery… Is that a cameo by the GoT weapons master Dunne? I remember seeing some BTS clip a year or two past and if I remember correctly, the GoT weapons master is a big, bald guy with a beard. Maybe it’s not him, but how appropriate if it was!

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    107. Dead Dane Walking,

      Pod.

      I don’t think there’s anything sinister going on. Pod is a very sincire and loyal squire. Much smarter than he’s being given credit for, but very loyal (this is more apparent in the books, where he’s also much younger).

      However, I can imagine Pod sharing a bit of mead with all the other squires gathered at Winterfell, them talking about their “masters”, the knights they squire for. Pod might get a ribbing from the others for squiring for a woman who isn’t even a knight, and Pod could “defend” her (and himself) by mentioning that she defeated the Hound in single combat. Stories get around, Littlefinger listens to gossip to glean facts…

      What kinda bothers me is that in S6 Brienne told Sansa that Arya was with “a man”, never mentioning the man’s identity. And now Sansa has found out/is about to find out that Brienne wasn’t entirely truthful to her… which could put a wedge between her and Brienne, which leaves an opening for LF… You see where I’m going with this?

      Also to dispel the myth that Brienne is always honourable, upright, loyal… She is, more than most, but she’s not some white knight, however much she’d like to be. She has to learn it’s all a bit messy and conflicted and grey. Swearing oaths is chivalrious and honourable, and easy, and she does a lot of that, but keeping them… What do you do when perfectly good, honourable oaths conflict? What do you choose? Which oath? And after choosing, the letter or the spirit of the oath? That’s why Brienne and Jaime are important in the books, less so in the show, but we might yet get there.

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    108. Mr Derp:
      ghost of winterfell,

      I’d love to hear the alternate plan the Northern leaders have come up with to fight the Others since they seem to be shitting all over Jon’s plan to use Dragonglass and Dragonfire.

      I mean, I get the thought of using dragons would kinda freak people out, but what’s the alternate plan here?

      LMAO, let’s hate on a plan but have no alternative, those northern lords would be great in Congress! Nothing changes, nothing changes. SMH

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    109. Karenchasez:
      I´m a bit worried about what Lyanna Mormort is going to say, lately seems like Jon needs her approval to do something, she´s cool but don’t overuse her.

      Agree, I loved Lyanna Mormont last year but am starting to max out on her, so far she’s a one trick pony, it’s a good trick and all, but we don’t need to see it for a while.

      Also, what if Jorah is cured and Dany reinstates him as the Lord of Bear Island? How’s that going to sit with the fanbase?

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    110. talvikorppi:

      Also to dispel the myth that Brienne is always honourable, upright, loyal… She is, more than most, but she’s not some white knight, however much she’d like to be. She has to learn it’s all a bit messy and conflicted and grey. Swearing oaths is chivalrious and honourable, and easy, and she does a lot of that, but keeping them… What do you do when perfectly good, honourable oaths conflict? What do you choose? Which oath? And after choosing, the letter or the spirit of the oath? That’s why Brienne and Jaime are important in the books, less so in the show, but we might yet get there.

      Absolutely – we saw this play out a little in Mother’s Mercy when Brienne had to decide whether to go after Stannis or continue looking up at the tower for Sansa’s candle.

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    111. Mr Derp:
      “Everyone is your enemy. Everyone’s your friend. Every possible series of events is happening all at once.” Littlefinger speaks to Sansa. She’s still not thrilled to be in his presence.

      Lol, Littlefinger’s advice to Sansa is about as nonsensical as the “known unknowns” speech from Donald Rumsfeld in 2002:

      “There are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns — the ones we don’t know we don’t know. And if one looks throughout the history of our country and other free countries, it is the latter category that tend to be the difficult ones.”

      Whether you cared for Rumsfield or not, I know what he was saying:
      There are things where you know both the question to ask and the answer (the known knowns)
      There are things where you know the question but not the answer (the known unknowns)
      And finally, there are your true “black swan” events, things that could not be anticipated, where you didn’t know the answer obviously, but you also didn’t know to even ask the question (the unknown unknowns), the last obviously are the most dangerous because they have the potential to blindside you the worst, you weren’t even looking for them in the first place (i.e. you didn’t even know to ask the question).

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    112. KG,
      It’s a real blink and you’ll miss it shot, I was only able to spot his potential prisoner by watching the clip on quarter speed. (You can slow it down by clicking on the cog icon on the bottom right, which is where this person appears. Although you can’t see much more than their hair. It’s also possible to up the picture quality the same way).

      Pigeon: Common sense isn’t always that common, though. Sometimes you aren’t able to see something even if it’s right in front of you. At least, that’s how I feel in the shampoo aisle.

      It’s certainly the case with some of the interior/night shots in this show! As for new Dickon, the stress and indignity of having your main family heirloom stolen by your banished sibling does tend to age people. And make them noticeably taller too it would seem 😉

      We’ve seen previous trailers where different conversations are edited together to misdirect us on who is speaking to whom. For one glorious moment I thought Lyanna Mormont might PLOT LEAK SPOILERS

      get to go to Dragonstone and the “your grace” she’s addressing was Dany, but I doubt it. I thought maybe they tried to appeal to Dany with every argument they have, and look we’ve got a sassy girl amongst our main group, we’re very progressive like that, could be one angle.

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    113. I’ve been freeze-framing the part where Euron is dragging the woman, and while we only get a tiny glimpse, I just don’t see a resemblance to the woman you suggested (covered in your spoiler-y gray). Plus, what is she to Cercei? Is that really a marriage-worthy gift?

      Also, who is that woman at :40 who is fighting? It’s a super-quick flash and it’s dark. She was in the last trailer too in a similar scene but for the life of me I don’t recognize her. Could she be the person being dragged?

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    114. Ser Bergh,
      Oooh if you watch the trailer in 720HD (you can upgrade it using the cog settings function) you can see PLOT LEAK SPOILER

      a smaller, dark haired person to Ellaria’s left, presumably Tyene?

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    115. thisgirlhasnoname,
      I’m not sure if you’re replying to my comment just above yours or to Sue, but the person being led has TRAILER SPOILER

      Yara’s hair do.

      Depending on how spoiled you are/want to be this site had a post with FILMING SPOILERS for this scene showing

      Yara being led by Euron.

      While presumably not much of a gift for Cersei PLOT LEAK SPOILER

      he also has Ellaria and Tyene prisoner, you can see their heads just in front of Cersei when she stands up from the throne in the trailer.

      I think the general consensus is that the woman at 0:40 is TRAILER SPOILER

      Tyene with longer hair.

      Trailer and filming and leak spoilers, oh my! 😀

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    116. thisgirlhasnoname:
      I’ve been freeze-framing the part where Euron is dragging the woman, and while we only get a tiny glimpse, I just don’t see a resemblance to the woman you suggested (covered in your spoiler-y gray). Plus, what is she to Cercei? Is that really a marriage-worthy gift?

      If its who i think it is, its the two women who murdered cercei’s daugher Mycella

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    117. They didn’t put this in the trailer for nothing so:

      At :16, there are two horses being led across the yard at Winterfell, with the camera following them, and the first one looks an awful lot like a certain little assassin’s horse.

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    118. Stark Raving Mad,

      That may mean nothing. Several regular commenters who are knowledgeable enough about horses to recognize particular ones have in the past spotted the same animal being reused in scenes set in different parts of Planetos. The producers bank on the fact that horses all look pretty much alike to the average viewer. Scenes with horses are a big drain on the production budget, so an animal that is cooperative on set is highly likely to be employed again and again.

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    119. Val1821,

      I strongly believe that Gendry will also be found in Oldtown. He’s your man for making those swords. Jorah, Sam & Gendry. It is known.

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    120. Sue the Fury,
      Easy for me ’cos I’m at one extreme end of the spoiler spectrum; I will happily read any and all of them and actually enjoy the show more for knowing what is (or isn’t) coming.

      Shame there’s no scientific scale to measure them against. It would make your job a lot easier for a start 😀

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    121. People talk about minor characters like Pod, hotpie, Lyanna Mormont again, etc. which is great, yet there’s not even one response to something about Sam and I was interested to get even just one person’s thoughts.

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    122. Mr Derp,

      I’m not a fan of Donald Rumsfeld at all, but his “unknown unknown” comment makes a lot of sense. Being prepared for the risks we don’t know are out there is the hardest thing for a society to do, but arguably, one of the most important.

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    123. I haven’t read all the comments guys but these shots are all from Episodes 2 and 3 according to Sky Atlantic, it does not cover the whole season.

      So we can assume Euron will be successful and return with his gift in the next couple of episodes. Now does Cersei agree to marry him?

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    124. Sue the Fury,

      Haha it’s funny that Tyene’s hair grows that much but Cersei’s doesn’t grow a inch, really hoping for a bob haircut for Cersei S8 if she survives this one, I think she would look awesome with a bob.

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    125. Can’t believe we finally got a proper look at Jorah, finally. I get the feeling it won’t be a pleasant season for him though unfortunately.

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    126. Jon Snowed,

      According to the synopsis of Ep3 Cersei will return the gift, so it looks like she won’t agree to marry Euron yet. I guess she will keep asking for more gifts, which would be smart from her perspective.

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    127. Ellaria Sand is the gift..look at the bottom right corner of the trailer..frame 0:27 to 0:28 you can see Ellaria’s hairstyle from the back of her head.

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    128. Chuck,

      Hi Chuck, do you want to know? Spoiler from the next episode which is also in the 2nd trailer.

      Euron will destroy Dany’s fleet at the same time capturing Yara, Ellaria and one of the sandsnakes and wiping out most of Dornish and the Iron born rebels. It’s a big blow for Dany but clearly the odds still favour her with the Tyrells, Dothraki and three dragons still behind her but she needed to take some losses

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    129. Inga,

      That’s interesting Inga, my speculation was that Cersei will

      kill the sand snakes in revenge for Mycella. I don’t know this as a fact as despite reading the outline last season I don’t recall what happens other than Euron delivers three people to Cersei, one being Ellaria, another Yara and I don’t remember the final one.

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    130. elybe,

      But she doesn’t just have dragons – she has unsullied and dothraki with her as well. Anyone who has fought a war (in that time period I’m referring to here) understands that when someone brings a ‘foreign’ army over that promises have been made of rich rewards to them. Dany herself in her ‘crazy’ speeches talks about destroying the men of the West and all their houses, etc. So why in the world is anyone going to trust her when they know her armies will decimate them and take what is theirs?

      I don’t care how good her intentions may be – the truth is she won’t be able to control her armies once they get the blood lust from fighting going – heck better Kings than her have tried and failed. She has zero concept of how a real war is fought because of her dragons. Take those away and she’d last about 5 minutes on a battle field. It’s easy to talk big when you have dragons that can fry everyone around you – she rules with fear and no one will respect that. They may bow to her because they have no choice but they’ll hate her for it.

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    131. kathy,

      I’m not saying they should blindly trust her, I’m saying that they should consider the alternative. The North and the Vale are not going to survive if they try to take on the WW on their own. That’s just a fact. Sometimes you have to weigh risk versus reward and make a decision that may not be ideal, but is the best choice under the circumstances, which is what Jon seems to be doing. He’s not ignoring history or the risks inherent in approaching Dany, he’s arguing that they can’t afford to let it inhibit them from at least trying to make an alliance that may be their only chance for survival. Jon and Davos have both explained this, very clearly, numerous times. The others may not truly “get” the magnitude of the threat until they witness it for themselves, but it’s time for them to either shit or get off the pot with respect to giving their King the benefit of the doubt.

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    132. Firannion,

      I’ve said this on several other threads, but it keeps coming up.

      OT: On your recommendation, I just received The Tough Guide to Fantasyland in the mail. Looking forward to it!!!

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    133. Wolfish: On your recommendation, I just received The Tough Guide to Fantasyland in the mail. Looking forward to it!!!

      I can almost hear you giggling already, from across the continent. Hope you enjoy it as much as I did – and if you do, please pass the word!

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