Liam Cunningham & Carice van Houten discuss next season’s “shaken” Melisandre; Kit Harington talks slipping into “laziness” as Jon Snow

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Liam Cunningham and Carice van Houten tease “astonishing” developments next season and Kit Harington admits that he slipped into “laziness” playing Jon Snow.

Cunningham and van Houten spoke to Express.co.uk about how the events at the end of season 5 will impact their characters going forward.

Van Houten described Melisandre as a woman whose “whole world is shaken” and who is “completely confused” at the beginning of season 6.

“What the f*** is happening? She’s been on this mission and all of a sudden it makes no sense and her tricks didn’t work – the sacrifice of this girl didn’t work,” she said. “But I think it’s slowly getting to her that she might have been slightly wrong about things, so that’s where we leave her in season five and that’s definitely where she starts off in season six.”

Cunningham concurred that Melisandre’s faith is “shaken” at the beginning of next season and said that Davos and Melisandre find themselves in a similar situation. “It’s a little odd, you do find yourself in no man’s land. You have to remember that myself and [Melisandre], the reason for being in the show, which is Stannis, has been taken away from us. So what our trajectory was, it’s gone that way.”

However, he teased an amazing journey in store for the characters. “The first episode to kick off with [Mesliandre] – without saying anything again – is astonishing. There’s absolutely amazing stuff coming [up], just so left of field, unexpected and just watching your and my favorite characters being put in these situations that are just so unpredictable and just so unexpected and it’s one of the trademarks of the show.”

In an interview with Radio Times, Kit Harington admitted that he got a little lazy playing Jon Snow season after season and discussed the importance of changing it up as an actor.

“All actors crave variety and there can be a laziness you slip into when you go back to a character every year, and I definitely slipped into it in the past,” he said. “So there’s a point where you go, ‘I’m an actor. I got into this to play lots of different roles.’ I need to do everything possible in my ‘out’ period. That gap in series needs to be as challenging as possible.”

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    1. Sooo, is Kit just saying that to throw us off about his resurrection or if he’s actually serious and isn’t coming back?

      Lol, I don’t know, I can’t wait any longer.

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    2. lmao Kit please

      I think Mel’s first attempt might fail. She probably needs to be in the same situation as Thoros for it to work.

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    3. Looks like Kit is getting better at planting the seeds of doubt of whether Jon Snow will get resurrected at all. Every time he says stuff like this I start to wonder if he’s actually telling the truth. Then I remember he’s an actor.

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    4. I posted about this in another thread. In a similar interview,
      http://meshwired.com/game-thrones-season-6-premiere-will-feature-big-moment-shaken-melisandre/

      “Nevertheless, Melisandre is set to have a “pivotal role” in season six and will undergo a transformation of sorts.”

      CvH:
      “Yes, there was something that I was like, I knew it was coming at some point. People had talked about it before to me but I wasn’t sure when it was going to happen. This is really vague… it’s in episode one already.”

      Very mysterious. What is Mel’s role beyond Ep. 1? What is this “transformation of sorts”? Thankfully, Episode 1 will be here soon.

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    5. Flayed Potatoes:
      lmao Kit please

      I think Mel’s first attempt might fail. She probably needs to be in the same situation as Thoros for it to work.

      At this point I dare say that Kit is coming back but Jon isn’t. I think the Lord Of Light will inhabit his body to fulfill the prophecy and he will be the most merciless character in the series.

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    6. Kit’s apparent laziness resulted in him just getting better and better each year (particularly the last one) as Jon, so I say stay lazy, bro! 😀

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    7. I think the last two seasons Kit’s acting improved immensely, but I also think the character was starting to come into his own. I think that he’s talking about doing different projects on breaks in between to take on other roles. But who knows.

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    8. I didn’t really think of Kit as a somewhat iffy Jon except in the second season. His material was the weakest there, IMO, so it makes sense enough in my mind.

      5>4>3>1>2 in terms of Kit’s acting, I think. 😛

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    9. Kit might be a great actor but most probably Jon Snow will be his best role ever. There isn’t much hope that Hollywood will offer him anything better than Pompeii or Gods of Egypt type nonsense.

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    10. I’m getting this feeling that Mel is going to die in Ep 1, please no she is so interesting!!! I want her to stay, I hope I am wrong.

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    11. Inga,

      True. He’s going to have to deal with being typecast a lot because of how he’s associated with Jon. Pompeii is a good example of that (and a flop of a movie).

      He was good in Testament of Youth though, so hopefully he gets some decent roles like that in the future. He enjoys doing theater though, so he’ll probably use that as an opportunity to challenge himself as an actor.

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    12. LordGriffith:
      I’m getting this feeling that Mel is going to die in Ep 1, please no she is so interesting!!! I want her to stay, I hope I am wrong.

      Wasn’t there a rumor that a female main cast member does in episode 1…and she didn’t film a lot…and she’s pregnant now…yeah she’s a goner first episode!

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    13. Bronn’s Bro.: At this point I dare say that Kit is coming back but Jon isn’t. I think the Lord Of Light will inhabit his body to fulfill the prophecy and he will be the most merciless character in the series.

      “I prayed for a glimpse of Azor Ahai, and R’hllor shows me only Snow.”

      You might ask why is Mel ardently praying for a glimpse of Azor Ahai if she’s so damn sure that Stannis is her man, but, that issue aside, hopefully the lightbulb on top of Mel’s head finally turns on…

      Maybe “Jon” is revived and even has Jon’s memories but he isn’t really Jon? LOL.
      Maybe he calls himself “Azor Ahai”, or in the show says something like “I’m the One Who Was Promised” LOL.

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    14. Connor,

      In context, he’s talking about playing different roles/characters during the period while not filming Game of Thrones between seasons, which he has done recently.

      That’s why he used the term “out periods” and “gap in the series”
      Gaps and period mean temporary or between two points.

      I actually don’t think this is at all a case of him making people think he’s done on the show.

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    15. It’s sad to say but most of the big guns in GOT cast won’t make it in Hollywood, not big time. And I’m talking both commercial and critical success. I’ll be pleasantly surprised if at least one of them goes big.

      Now, they’ve been hyping up Melisandre but we know her screentime in s6 will be very limited as it’s reported Carice didn’t film much. I just hope whatever small role she has,it is top-notch material.

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    16. I guess I’m one of the few who read that as Kit clearly talking about playing different characters during the “gaps” and “out periods” between filming Game of Thrones seasons.

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    17. I’m still hoping Ellaria kicks the bucket in episode 1. Mel still has that photo of her leaving Castle Black, so she’s good until Detective Onion pieces everything together..

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    18. Melisandre is one of my favorite characters but I have this bad feeling she’s going to die this season. Having said that, she also spoke of walking the battlements at Winterfell & she told Arya that they would meet again. *Crosses fingers*

      Edit: Also it bums me out that so many people on here would think he’s not coming back. Come on!

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    19. harlequeen,

      Very true. I’m happy Gwendoline got Star Wars though (and now Top of the Lake), so she’s good for the next 3-4 years. I’ll laugh myself into an early grave if Finn Jones ends up being the breakout star because of Iron Fist (I bet nobody expected that).

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    20. Rygritte,

      That seems plausible. The reports suggested that the resurrection scene wasn’t filmed with a lot of people (most likely to keep it a secret).

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    21. The internet is going to break when Jon is rezzed. It will be glorious. Every media outlet will be covering it. It will be trending on Twitter.

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    22. Rygritte,

      Which is exactly what is expected under these circumstances. And anything else would just be a disappointment. Martin has emphasised it over and over again, that death changes a person. And that change is never for the better. It’s an essential plot point in his series. Think Lady Stoneheart or Beric Dondarrion. When one dies and is brought back, one loses parts of oneself. A resurrected character is no longer the character they were pre-revival. Something’s gotta give, something has to change. Even temporary death has to have an impact. Martin has said he isn’t fond of Gandalf’s transformation after his death. Upon his comeback he became better, more powerful, wiser and his essence/good-natured personality stayed the same. I personally have no problem with that, but that’s not how Martin deals with this issue. It’s twisted and abnormal in ASOIAF. Black brother Jon Snow is not going to become White Jon, a Christ-like figure.

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    23. Kay: I knew it was coming at some point. People had talked about it before to me but I wasn’t sure when it was going to happen.

      I think it’s her seeing Jon as AA in the flames.

      What is this “transformation of sorts”?

      She loses faith, kisses Jon erect, faith restored. She said her dress looked eggplant due to filters, but it looked like a purple dress with scary red stripes. Looked deliberate as if they used that color last season, so she could go back to her powerful red glory when her faith is restored. Sounds like she is going to start questioning god even after her faith is restored. She was rigid like Stannis. Sounds like she’ll be more of a team player. She has to be because her team dead. Like so dead. Omg dead. Her baby daddy & his wife are dead.

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    24. Ron Snow:
      Connor,

      In context, he’s talking about playing different roles/charactersduring the period while not filming Game of Thrones between seasons, which he has done recently.

      That’s why he used the term “out periods” and “gap in the series”
      Gaps and period mean temporary or between two points.

      I actually don’t think this is at all a case of him making people think he’s done on the show.

      I agree. And he has actually gotten better each season, no way he was getting lazy lol.

      My hopes are still pretty much high for his resurrection.

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    25. Maybe Mel undergoes a transformation into a Blue Witch, She was all fire before, now she will be all ice. lol nah I can’t help but think back to that split-second shot of her disrobing in the trailer. She looks distressed. It’s not her usual seductive demeanor. And besides there’s no one there that she’d need so she’d pull out her seduction card. So why is she doing it? And why does she look hesitant/almost afraid? Is she pulling a Nissa Nissa? But Jon doesn’t love her and we know she’s leaving CB based on that promo still. Maybe she’s about to reveal her true self? Ditch the glamour. But we’ve seen her in a bathtub without her necklace so I dunno if it’s a thing in the show.

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    26. Damon,

      Arya wears Jon’s face, thats who we see at Winterfell, and in the Bastard Bowl 🙂 I don’t think that would happen, but it wouldn’t be beyond reason

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    27. Jack Bauer 24: Wasn’t there a rumor that a female main cast member does in episode 1…and she didn’t film a lot…and she’s pregnant now…yeah she’s a goner first episode!

      Is it possible that Melisandre could be the sacrifice herself ? Giving her life for Jon to resurrect ?
      It doesn’t sound like a transformation though. I hope it’s not Melisandre disguised as Jon, Faceless Men style. Or isnt there a “glamour” theory about Melisandre as in who she really is ? Or who can she turn into (a different magic than that of the Faceless Men).

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    28. plop_plop,

      They’d have had to get him to the House of Black and White first. How would they even know about his death in the first place? And what would be the point of doing it? For Arya or FM? Narratively-speaking such development makes no sense. Especially given RLJ and the ToJ we’re getting this season. For that not to be pointless, the character has to have the blood of Lyanna and Rhaegar. Ice and Fire, it’s the whole point .

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    29. plop_plop:
      Damon,

      Arya wears Jon’s face, thats who we see at Winterfell, and in the Bastard Bowl I don’t think that would happen, but it wouldn’t be beyond reason

      Jesus, that would be really depressing. But thats one of the shows and books trademark.

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    30. Flayed Potatoes:
      I’m still hoping Ellaria kicks the bucket in episode 1. Mel still has that photo of her leaving Castle Black, so she’s good until Detective Onion pieces everything together..

      I wouldn’t mind losing Ellaria in the first episode, either.

      I’m intrigued by Mel’s story arc this season. I would like to see her questioning her faith, her powers, her choices…then resurrect Jon, almost as a last resort. Mel may not last the season but I do not want to lose her in episode 1.

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    31. We really need the season, the tinfoil is off the charts, like Daario=Euron, Mance Rayder=Rhaegar, D+D=T level tinfoil.

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    32. “That gap in series needs to be as challenging as possible.”

      Whether he intended to or not, Kit let one slip here, IMO. Remember, Brits use the word “series” the way Americans use “season”. He’s referring to the projects he does between seasons of GoT…implying of course that he is still in between seasons.

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    33. harlequeen,
      I think this will be illustrated when

      he gets the Pink Letter. Yes, it’s happening. Jon won’t be erected until E2. E1 will end with his supporters killing the mutineers. E2 will have his funeral if he has one. E3 he’ll get the letter.
      Your false king is dead, bastard. He and all his host were smashed in a day of battle. I have his magic sword. Tell his red whore. Winterfell is mine. Come and see.

      I want my bride Sansa back. I want the false king’s queen. I want his daughter and his red witch. And I want my Reek. Send them to me, bastard, and I will not trouble you or your black crows. Keep them from me, and I will cut out your bastard’s heart and eat it.

      Ramsay Bolton, Trueborn Lord of Winterfell.

      The Pink Letter will piss Jon off. He sacrificed his family for The Watch numerous times when he was a boy. Now the man is reborn. King Bastard hasn’t taken any vows. This bastard wants vengeance. Davos will contemplate why Ramsay is asking for Selyse & Shireen when Mel implied they dead. He will want to go to Winterfell to try to find out what happened to them. Tormund will be skeptical. He & the wildlings at Castle Black will need to be convinced to march with Jon on Winterfell.

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    34. Yeah, Melisandre’s done…her arc is done. Well maybe one more super important thing.

      After that…who the hell likes her…anywhere in Westeros? She’s not going to tag along with anyone nearby for sure.

      Even if Jon has Rez sex with her he wont want her on his team. Davos would never be chummy with her after he finds out about Shireen.

      She’s done…I don’t know why she’s stripping again in the trailer but it’ll be the last time!

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    35. Hariette Tuttle: Is it possible that Melisandre could be the sacrifice herself ? Giving her life for Jon to resurrect ?
      It doesn’t sound like a transformation though. I hope it’s not Melisandre disguised as Jon, Faceless Men style. Or isnt there a “glamour” theory about Melisandre as in who she really is ? Or who can she turn into (a different magic than that of the Faceless Men).

      Some detective work by another WOTW poster revealed that

      the picture of Melisandre riding out from Castle Black was from 6×05, thanks to the filename of the picture. Melisandre’s safe…for the first five episodes, anyway.

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    36. harlequeen: Is she pulling a Nissa Nissa?

      She may ask Davos to take her life since she has nothing left to live for & she fucked up real bad, but Davos won’t go for that. No, no can do. Not yet, not after she cries to him. But, he may want to go Nissa Nissa on her ass when he finds out what she did.

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    37. Wow!!! Now I have no clue as to what Melisandre will be up to in episode 1?!!!! It sounds ominous to me?! A little scared now for her and Jon Snow!!

      And I LOVE Kit Harington and Jon Snow!! He is the reason I LOVE GoT!! If he wasn’t a good actor, his portrayal of Jon Snow would not make me love and care for Jon Snow! He acts the way he does because look at his miserable life-wildlings and white walkers trying to kill him, he has no family or spouse, he should not love, he lives at the Wall where it is freezing every day! How would you act? If the directors wanted more from him, they would tell him! The same for Pompeii, look at his life in that movie!! The real test will come with his new movie and Dr. Faustus!

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    38. It’s silly at this point to deny that Kit isn’t coming back. We saw the leaked picture. But it’s also silly to think that Jon is going to be the same when he comes back. He’s going to be different person,

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    39. DanTheMan: Jesus, that would be really depressing. But thats one of the shows and books trademark.

      Can we talk about this?:

      “One way or another, the gift will be given.”
      “One way or another, a face will be added to the hall.”

      I feel like Jaqen’s words foretell something very important. What is he asking of Arya? I think in all of the other speculation with the trailers, we haven’t had much of a chance to get into this. My thought is that he is asking her to carry out something that she outright refuses, at least at first. Something that is distasteful even to our Meryn-torturing vengeful girl. Is it what preceeds

      the bloody knife? The escape from the Waif? The leap off the building, and the jump into the harbour?

      This is probably the most interesting bit to me. 🙂

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    40. In the world of ASOIAF a person pre-death and post-resurrection are two characters. So Jon Snow is dead and not coming back, not the Jon Snow we have known. He will come back as a new ‘Jon Snow’. Same name, new character.

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    41. I don’t think she is going to resurrect Jon Snow. I think he’s clearly returning, but I think it’s a red herring set up by both George and showrunners. In the books I think Bran is going to aid Jon back into his body from Ghost. Since I doubt it plays out like that in the show, I don’t know how they’ll change it. But I’m not convinced it’s going to be what everyone is expecting.

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    42. George: “I prayed for a glimpse of Azor Ahai, and R’hllor shows me only Snow.”

      You might ask why is Mel ardently praying for a glimpse of Azor Ahai if she’s so damn sure that Stannis is her man, but, that issue aside, hopefully the lightbulb on top of Mel’s head finally turns on…

      Maybe “Jon” is revived and even has Jon’s memories but he isn’t really Jon? LOL.
      Maybe he calls himself “Azor Ahai”, or in the show says something like “I’m the One Who Was Promised” LOL.

      Actually I stick to my theory but also to the fact that he will embrace the Jon Snow/Stark/Possibly Targaryen persona to benefit himself I also forgot to mention that I hope that both Night’s King and Melissandre try to resurrect him at the same time: Ice and Fire.

      I also theorize that Jon will be responsible to set that flayed man on fire as a warning to the Boltons that shit is going down!

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    43. Pigeon,
      Sounds like she either has to kill someone or be killed. She probably doesn’t want to do it blind.

      “This season we see Arya get a series of tasks from Jaqen, which she has to carry out blind,”

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    44. All signs point to: Jon Snow is dead, and whatever happens to his spirit, Kit Harington is not coming back to the show. Instead, something “left of field” and “unexpected” will happen, and it should be interesting.

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    45. Inga:
      Kit might be a great actor but most probably Jon Snow will be his best role ever. There isn’t much hope that Hollywood will offer him anything better than Pompeii or Gods of Egypt type nonsense.

      I think Pompeii and Silent Hill 2 are good examples of many young male actors going through the Hollyhood machine. Leonardo Di Caprio went through the same stage after his child actor years with The Beach and The Man in the Iron Mask. He had to work many, many years to finally get his Oscar. I don’t believe Jon will be Kit’s best role. He was great in Testament of Youth. There was a scene where his character was suffering from PTSD after coming back from the war and it was no dead-eyed internal acting. He gave a great vulnerable performance of a young man changed and emotional after experiencing war.

      I wish I could see Dr. Faustus, and am really looking forward to The Death and Life of John. F Donovan, which is, ironically about how fame changes a young TV star after he becomes famous for a break-out role. That being said, Kit has noted more than once that he never takes (or took) Game of Thrones for granted because it did help kick-start his career, and expressed awareness that many actors would kill for a chance like this.

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    46. Rick,

      All signs point to Kit not coming back to the show? Sure Rick, except for the whole “Kit was in Belfast filming Season 6 for several months last year” thing. Even Ayra couldn’t miss that.

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    47. The other site is making a big stink over KH”s remarks. And I’d have to agree, after all this show was his catalyst to fame. Now he’s gonna turn around and say the show is making him complacent. Not a good look KH whatever u were trying to accomplish.

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    48. The nasty bits:
      The other site is making a big stink over KH”s remarks. And I’d have to agree, after all this show was his catalyst to fame. Now he’s gonna turn around and say the show is making him complacent. Not a good look KH whatever u were trying to accomplish.

      It’s only tits and dragons.

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    49. Rygritte,

      Rygritte:
      Flayed Potatoes,
      I think she will innocently give Jon one last kiss and say a little prayer & Jon will shudder & open his eyes.

      It would not surprise me if “The Last Kiss” will be the episode title.

      In the ASOS chapter when Arya questions Thoros about the resurrection of Beric, Thoros calls the resurrection by red priests “The Last Kiss.” HBO may call it “The Lord’s Kiss” although that has other meanings for Jon and Ygritte fans!

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    50. The GoT twitter account has been promoting one super fan per season for the #GoT50 countdown. Season 1 was Cersei, Season 2 was Dany, and right not it’s Jon for Season 3, which has the Beric resurrection…

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    51. Jon’s resurrection will not be like Beric’s because he will have warged into ghost before he actually died. So he won’t necessarily come back diminished or changed. I think that Mel will know about warging and realize that Jon is in Ghost but she won’t immediately know how to perform the resurrection while he is in Ghost. She’ll have to figure it out somehow. That’s my tinfoil for the day.

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    52. Wall Builder,

      So Jon warged into Ghost and just decided to stick around and guard his own dead body? Why? The first thing he would’ve done was to get somewhere safe. He has to know that the next step by the traitors is to kill Ghost. Jon has no reason to stick around and guard his body.

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    53. Rygritte,

      Those films were not considered that good by critics, I think. Although I personally enjoyed them (at least, when I was still a teenager), they can’t be compared to the films he did later in his career.

      The nasty bits,

      I am not implying that Kit should be put in the same caliber as Di Caprio. I am contextualising film careers within the larger context of how Hollyhood works. Leo just popped into my head as I was typing up the comment 😉 Maybe I should compare him to Chris Hemsworth or similar action actors who also appear in romcoms…
      Kit also changed agents shortly after Pompeii. He didn’t directly cite it as a reason, but I think I he started to reconsider his choices.

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    54. Wall Builder: Jon’s resurrection will not be like Beric’s because he will have warged into ghost before he actually died. So he won’t necessarily come back diminished or changed.

      This contradicts the books badly. Jon is completely untrained and untaught in how to be a warg. We read in Dragons that it is not simply a natural talent: wargs actively learn how to do it. That is why some wargs can do things like spy through their animals whereas less advanced wargs (like Bran) cannot remember who they are when warging well enough to truly control the animal: and people like Jon cannot even actively jump into the mind of an animal. We have no reason to think that the “second life” is some “low level” skill that anybody can do: Varamyr seems to rank it among the most advanced warging skills.

      Moreover, once a warg goes into the second life, he/she immediately starts to diminish: very soon the animal has just a trace of the personality. Varamyr himself recounts this: upon taking over an eagle that is host to a second life, he can feel the dead wargs hatred for the person who killed him: but the dead wargs mind is not there functioning like a human mind.

      The upshot of this is that warging is not “cloud storage” of the mind. If Jon somehow did second life into Ghost, then that’s it for Jon: he will soon fade into the wolf. (And, of course, given that Jon is completely untrained in how to be a warg, we have zero reason to think that he would know how to do it.)

      Even ignoring the canon, we can dismiss this idea for more obvious reasons. The show has done nothing to set up Jon warging or the idea that wargs can use their animals as cloud storage of their minds for extended periods of time. In fact, the show has done the opposite: like the books, the show tells us that if wargs stay in their animals too long, then the forget that they are human and lose themselves.

      When people criticize tales for Deus Ex Machina (and, yes, Deus Ex Machina is always a criticism), they are criticizing just this sort of thing. The show has yet to resort to DEM: and I suspect that they are not going to start now. They hung a big red-haired, red-robed, red-god-worshipping gun on The Wall at the end of the season: we’ve seen it fired before, and we’ll see it fired again.

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    55. The nasty bits: h,

      Did u really, really just compare KH to LDC, really

      DiCaprio is acknowledged as a good actor now, but he was written off as a talentless pretty-boy by a lot of people for a long time. It took him a lot of work and a lot of varied roles before people finally accepted that he’s a really good actor.

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    56. House Ray: New Season 6 Making of Video – Prosthetics

      That was so last week, dude! 🙂 But I guess it does make sense to revisit it. All the discussions and interviews and arguments at this point are circular anyway. :/

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    57. BlueEyedRaven,

      Excellent find and great reminder. What form will that take in Jon, I wonder? I’m not saying he’s not going to retain certain aspects of his “former identity”… but it’s a solemn reminder that both the books and the show have pointed this tidbit out. And I don’t think it will be completely ignored when Jon is brought back

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    58. El-Bobbie:
      Wall Builder,

      So Jon warged into Ghost and just decided to stick around and guard his own dead body? Why? The first thing he would’ve done was to get somewhere safe. He has to know that the next step by the traitors is to kill Ghost. Jon has no reason to stick around and guard his body.

      Yep, I reckon that is what will happen? Weiss let that slip out (probably in error and on the spur of the moment!) and said to Kit Harington – “I have two words for you – Season Six”) a while ago at an Oxford Union lecture when Harington said he would like to be a warg and put himself into a direwolf 😉

      I don’t think Weiss was trolling/bullshitting Harington either when he came out with that! – Yet another pointer?

      In ADWD – JS’s last word was “Ghost” just before he expired which makes me believe that scenario is even more likely?

      Of course, its all speculation, but we don’t have long to wait now to see if that indeed is what happens… If it does, Wimsey owes me a beer LOL 😀

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    59. Black Raven: If it does, Wimsey owes me a beer LO

      I’ll be too busy ripping B&W for horrible plotting if they do that! The gun works both ways: if you are going to fire it late, then you have to hang it early. (What people sometimes call Chekhov’s Reverse Rule really is just Deus Ex Machina.)

      The show has yet to do any DEM: I would be surprised if they do so now.

      (The same holds true for the book, really: it would basically be a plot hole if GRRM did this.)

      As for Weiss’s comments, I doubt that he was trolling or spoiling: instead, he probably was just making fun of the fan conjecture. It was an “in” joke. Indeed, the fact that he made the joke makes it seem less probable that they are going to do anything with it: otherwise, he just would have kept mum.

      That stated, I do wonder if Jon’s assassination will act as a catalyst to get him to start actually being a warg, at least in the books. It might be a coincidence, but it seems like some major “shock” got Bran (and one other) getting started in basic warging.

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    60. Flayed Potatoes,

      I haven’t read through all the comments but I think Mel will run into Nymeria. if Arya’s warging abilities manifest while blind…..she could very well run into her again…just not physically. I’m not sure if she will survive this season though 🙁 there is a new red priestess…. maybe she’ll take over that religious aspect

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    61. I’m interested in the comments by the actors of things being ‘left field’ and ‘unexpected’ because the road ahead for the season looks pretty logically mapped out. Like the upcoming battle seems like an expected development from S5. I’ve been wondering what actually is going to surprise this season.

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    62. The North Remembers: I’m not sure if she will survive this season though there is a new red priestess…. maybe she’ll take over that religious aspect

      I suspect that there will be more than one Red Cleric in the remainder of the tale. Moreover, it is very possible that the “what” of R’hllor is going to be important: and as Mel has been the faceperson for the clericdom, it will be most effective for the plot (and possibly the story) if she’s the one we see react to it.

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    63. Wimsey,

      Well you could be right Wimsey and I would owe you a beer, but didn’t GRRM himself say (with probably a knowing grin on his face) when interviewed after the end of S5… “So you all think John Snow is dead, huh?…. ” and left it at that.

      We’ll all know soon enough and then nip this John Snow ‘is he alive or is he dead’ debate in the bud once and for all 😉

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    64. Doesn’t that WW look like hes breaking through the same vines from the 3 eyed ravens cave in season 4. Its at the 54 second mark in the making of GOT video posted above. Doesn’t seem possible after what happened to the 3 WW’s that chased Meera into the cave, but sure looks the same. https://imgur.com/NtFOIMT

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    65. Wimsey,

      True! I think it will be interesting to have two red priestess/ priest in the show. I’ve been very curious about them since Tyrion ran into one in Volantis. she was preaching to the slaves that Dany was the chosen one while Mel thought it was Stannis (now she thinks its Jon). I know their visions are subjective and open to interpretation ….but still….someone has to be right, right?

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    66. Wimsey: DiCaprio is acknowledged as a good actor now, but he was written off as a talentless pretty-boy by a lot of people for a long time.It took him a lot of work and a lot of varied roles before people finally accepted that he’s a really good actor.

      And I still don’t think he’s much of an actor. He’s an actorly actor, where he needs accents and make-up and costumes. But he’s not all that convincing at just coming off as a human. His ambition, his movie star presence on screen and the talent he’s collaborated with has more to do with his continued success than his talent. Not saying he’s bad however. And I so would have rather seen him win the Oscar for Wolf of Wall Street or The Aviator than that lost in the woods crap.

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    67. John Johnston,

      I think he’s a pretty good actor, admirable even. He was great early on in “This Boy’s Life” and “Gilbert Grape”, and has just continued on with “Shutter Island” and “Wolf”. You’re right. I didn’t care for “Revenant”, either. He’s had his share of turkeys, to be sure (“Body of Lies”, “Revolutionary Road” – though I think those were more problems with script and directing than him personally) What I most admire about him, though, is that he’s arguable the most bankable actor right now, and he’s done it without the aid of a single action franchise or superhero role. In fact, he’s done it with mostly R rated movies. I can’t think of another actor who’s had that level of sustained level of success when most studios would rather not even make those kinds of films.

      Sorry, I know this isn’t a DiCaprio discussion board. Back on point.

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    68. Wimsey,

      Jon Snow isn’t warging into Ghost. It’s never even been remotely set up in the show, and if we know anything about D&D’s methodology, they lay the groundwork for their big plot points, sometimes seasons in advance. And HBO isn’t going to make the center piece of their biggest show a dog.

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    69. waiting for season 6 has become like …when you are a kid and your dad promised that for your birthday he is gonna bring you that new stuff that all your friend have and talk about all the time ………but your birthday is months away and you kinda want it now …but you aren’t gonna get it ……..untill the time is right…………………

      ser onion knight is doing a great job hyping …..season.6………it will probably be his standout season ……hope he gets to shine ….

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    70. Wimsey,

      I’ve long wondered about this effortless, in their sleep, type of warging that only the Stark children seem to do. Like you said, warging seems to be somewhat difficult. It’s not easy, effortless or unintentional. It requires a specific intent and a target. Which has made me wonder if it’s the direwolves who actually initiate the contact with the Starks, rather than the other way around (are they warged, not wargs?). Almost certainly under the control of BR. Reading this thread has made me wonder if it is Ghost that saves Jon, rather than Jon warging into Ghost to save himself? And I agree, warging seems a tricky skill for Jon to suddenly acquire at the moment of death.

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    71. Connor,

      H’es not saying it to throw us off. If he is bored playing Jon Snow then he’s probably also tired of talking about him as well, so I don’t think he’s just “having fun” with it or cares enough to play with the fandom. I know, I know Tptb would tell him what to say in general. More specifically what not to say. He makes it personal though when he speaks about being done with the show and that quote about being in the “out” period..I can only assume he’s mean his hiatus from GOT.

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    72. there are so many things that went on between sam and js in the books and the show that I cant remember them all but I have this feeling that they have unfinished business together. And I cant see this happening with js being anyone else but himself. jon has only one true friend and that’s sam. Sam leaving shed zero light on what was to come and these theories don’t seem to want to have anything to do with their relationship, I dunno…I just get the feeling there is more to come for the 2 of them together, and if my gut feeling is correct they will meet again…could be season 7 or 8…but they will meet again

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    73. harlequeen,

      This is disappointing if true. I guess I’m boring and prefer more cliche ultimately uplifting in the end fantasy tales then. It’s not satisfying to me when a beloved character whose story arc is building towards a promising conclusion is cut down and switched into a dark, depressing one. If he’s going to lose his compassion and moral compass are we still supposed to root for him? Come to think of it that could get interesting…..I’d still hate the fact they get rid of such a good guy in a tale full of not so good and downright bad ones but the dynamics might prove to be at least interesting.

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    74. Definitely Groundhog Day, again. Dead or not dead?
      This is getting so repetitive.
      The worst part is that the premiere around here being much later than April 24th, I will have to wait even more than you guys!

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    75. When it comes to who of the actors will make it, my money is on Sophie Turner. She already has a superhero role, she can play for 15 years and more. She is 20, she looks good and she does great PR with directors,magazines, events e.t.c
      Finn Jones was casted by Marvel and that gives hims so many more chances than any other actor.
      Gwendoline Christie was casted by Star Wars and she does great PR job (We all remember how much she hyped Captain Phasma, she made as disappointed in the end.) , only by the fact that producers and magazines love her so much, we can see a bright future although i don’t know if she gets to lead a movie.
      Emilia and Kit have been very bland so far despite the fact that they have the two most overhyped roles in GoT. Emilia had a chance in a franchise but it didn’t work, she lately started attending every party available and promoting herself as romantic-comedy actress. If “Me before you” works she will make it.
      Now to Kit, we all know the moment Marvel will cast him he will be fine, but until then he has two upcoming movies that go more for critical success. The Dolan movie have director and actresses very appreciated by critics, he may win from that. Also rumors has it that Brimstone will compete on Cannes, not sure how big role he or Carice have in that..but still it will boost him in the eyes of the critics (of course he has to be good).
      Maisie will try on indies…let’s see..
      As for the favorite Lannister children…let’s face it they are in the worst position than anyone above. A 40+ woman, a 40+ man with achondroplasia and 40+ foreign man from a small country. Hollywood is very ageist. If you add on that, that all three are really really bad with PR and already had some bad choices.. it’s possible that the best actors in GoT will not get much more after it ends.

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    76. Lisa0527,

      Someone here also mentioned the prosthetic when the video came out, I think. Interesting! Of course I don’t want it to be true as I find the actor himself very well spoken and thought-out in interviews, but I can definitely see it. Circling back to old territory for the 2 characters for sure! Thanks for the link!

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    77. If Jon’s story unfolds the way filming spoilers suggest it does, does that suggest he’s turned dark and nasty? I don’t think it does. The fact that he was pictured in certain gear suggests the change is more about a determination to achieve goals as articulated by Davos last year: ‘Doing you job might mean getting away from the Wall.’

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    78. The nasty bits,

      I don’t think he was trying to “accomplish” anything just admitting that he’s ready to be challenged by other roles. Maybe he’s one of those ambitious people who’re always seeking something different. Like an adrenaline junkie. I don’t read what he said as putting down Thrones, at least not in this interview.

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    79. LordDavos,

      I think Jon will come back and be driven by revenge/justice for his Stark brethren. Conquering and then uniting the North to prepare them for the Nights Kings army.

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    80. I’d somewhat understand doubts back in June/July/August, but now it’s just silly in the face of the overwhelming evidence and logic. We couldn’t have expected anything else from them regarding the issue. They have to do everything to keep it unspoiled as much as possible. But by doing so, they’re leaving themselves open to suspicion. The more they try, the more transparent in their attempts they are. And it puzzles me that it’s working on some people. I learned long ago not to trust people during promo campaigns. It’s how it is handled.

      They have never done this with any dead character before. Even when they had a chance, see Catelyn=Lady Stoneheart. If there was any truth to it, they’d say it once or twice, release the Beautiful Death poster and move on. Actually, they would have had the death in ep 9 and then confirm it beyond doubt (perma death) in the finale, like with all the other big character deaths. They left it as a cliffhanger for a reason. This was the very first red flag to me. They also make a big deal out of his corpse in the trailer for a reason.

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    81. OT but: “Cyberbully” which starred our Maisie is nominated in the best Single Drama category in this year’s BAFTA (British Film and Theatre Awards). As several of us have said it is well worth watching for her solo performance.

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    82. Wimsey,

      Oh I think the books did use Deus Ex Machina. What about Theon’s squire up the tree – I thought that was a particularly weak piece of plotting in the books. I won’t say any more because I don’t want to spoil things for non-book-readers.

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    83. Maggie,

      “As for the favorite Lannister children…let’s face it they are in the worst position than anyone above. A 40+ woman, a 40+ man with achondroplasia…”
      Ummm, 40+ children? Disregarding your incredibly poor writing, Lena and Peter have already “made it,” actor status isn’t defined merely by whether or not you get a superhero role-as you seem to believe.
      Ugh, this comment is just painfully stupid; I am stopping now, before I become infuriated by just how absurd, and poorly written, it is.

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    84. harlequeen:
      It’s sad to say but most of the big guns in GOT castwon’t make it in Hollywood, not big time. And I’m talking both commercial and critical success. I’ll be pleasantly surprised if at least one of them goes big.

      Now, they’ve been hyping up Melisandre but we know her screentime in s6 will be very limited as it’s reported Carice didn’t film much. I just hope whatever small role she has,it is top-notch material.

      You may be right. Not everyone wants the pressure of being a Hollywood star of course. Some would be content to play a supportive role without being an A-lister. I’m sure Lena Headey has done some work in Hollywood though – otherwise why the heck would she live over there? Whether a British or Irish actor would get a part in a regular American made series depends on how well they can do an American accent I suppose unless they are cast as British (I’ve noticed English accents are popular for baddies in Hollywood e.g. James Purefroy “The Following” and in the ’80s Joan Collins in “Dynasty”). It was a TV show but I was surprised to learn that Linus Roche who played the attorney, Cutter in “Law and Order” was Ken Barlow’s (a character in a long-running British soap opera) son in real life. Being English I can’t tell so much whether a Briton does a convincing Amerian accent (though I could never take Hugh Laurie seriously in “House” because I thought of him as Bertie Wooster).

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    85. To everyone who thinks Mel is going to die early on:

      Isn’t she supposed to meet Arya again, at least in the show?

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    86. I am afraid you are right about Nikolaj.. I really like him as an actor, and saw almost all his films after seeing him on Thrones.

      It looks like he wanted a career in Holywood, tried really hard, got his break at 40 in GoT, but after that, not many good movies came. He actually has very few good movies in his resumé, hardly and good TV series (except GoT of course). He is in great physical shape, but even if Holywood cuts men more slack in the age department, he is getting old for action hero type of roles. Maybe he still has time for romantic lead type of roles, but foreigners are rarely cast in those type of roles.

      Part of me thinks that he should have stuck it out in Denmark, instead of trying so hard to make in the US. Especially considering that when he was young, Dogma was all the rage and some pretty interesting fimls were being shot there and he missed out on that.

      Mads Mikkelsen I think made the better choice. He has some fantastic danish (and german) speaking films in his resumé, some silly english-speaking films and of course Hannibal. It goes to show that “thinking big” is not always the right choice.

      Maggie,

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    87. dwm:
      Maggie,

      “As for the favorite Lannister children…let’s face it they are in the worst position than anyone above. A 40+ woman, a 40+ man with achondroplasia…”
      Ummm, 40+ children?Disregarding your incredibly poor writing, Lena and Peter have already “made it,” actor status isn’t defined merely by whether or not you get a superhero role-as you seem to believe.
      Ugh, this comment is just painfully stupid; I am stopping now, before I become infuriated by just how absurd, and poorly written, it is.

      Nobody forced you to read this …and nobody forced you to reply to me. Go on with other comments. Lena and Peter’s last films are HUGE box office bombs. PPZ lost 50mil+ and Pixels is listed among the biggest box office flops of all times.
      Actors status is defined by many things like commercial,critical success and awards ….when nobody of them had any of this the last 10 and more years outside GoT ( with an exception of one superhero film for Peter,because in case you didn’t notice superhero=success) then it just prove my case. Just because you like an actor doesn’t make him/her successful when their films get panned critically and commercially. If every time there is something about Kit and Emilia people mention Pompeii and Terminator all the time why Peter and Lena should not get the same comments? You know what is more painfully stupid than an poorly written comment? Fans who defend their favs by insulting other people.

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    88. lady Mel will definitely resurrect jon in episode 1,but she will sacrifice Ghost first but nothing happens,then she realises that herself is the bleeding red star in the prophesy.so she make ser Davos to put the long claw through her heart.Jon and ghost both open the eyes.Mel inhabits ghost and accompany jon into the battle.later once Arya meet jon they meet again or Arya dies and warg into Nymeria and they meet as wolves.

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    89. Queensmoot,

      I personally like Nikolaj very very much. As i said in my comment above for me he , Peter and Lena are among the best actors in the show.
      I was talking about leading roles, and yes i believe Hollywood will not give many chances to him. He does look great and actually much younger than his age, but nobody will trust a big movie with a potential for franchise (this is what studios want now) to an older actor. Especially to a foreigner like NCW, very few non-Americans or non- British actors had made it to a leading actor status.
      Having said that, i don’t believe Mikkelsen made much better choices in USA (Clash of Titans :-p) , but his choices in Danish movies give him a better bio. Also even now he goes for supporting roles, and that gets him to work in bigger movies. Nikolaj, Lena and Peter can do that also. Supporting roles are usually more interesting and give many actors chances to work and show talent even if they no longer fit in the classic leading man/woman status.
      I wasn’t trying to talk bad or anything about any of the actors. This was just my opinion based on their latest/upcoming works.

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    90. Henry Gordon,

      Dude, Thoros was questioning his faith until he got so desperate he simply started to pray sincerely and “say the words”. I obviously don’t mean drunk.

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    91. Maggie:
      When it comes to who of the actors will make it, my money is on Sophie Turner. She already has a superhero role, she can play for 15 years and more. She is 20, she looks good and she does great PR with directors,magazines, events e.t.c

      If Sophie doesn’t end up playing Queen Elizabeth I one day….

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    92. It is kind of funny that Kit is actually contradicting what he said two days ago with this interveiw. Two days ago he was dead and now he is speaking about doing a variety of different roles during the off season when GoT is not filming.

      I dont really understand if Kit is actually doing promotion for GoT or Dr Faustus. Because his interviews are being released at the same time as the other actors of the show who are busy with GoT promotion. The whole situation is actually quite amusing, I guess they are just going to keep on interviewing him about twice a week, until the season starts.

      Carice refers to something that her character will do that she has heard of or expected for a while now. It is easy to assume she is talking about Jon’s resurrection, and perhaps she is even referring to that particular event.

      But perhaps she be referring to something like glamouring. It is obviously something that Melisandre does within the books. I did not really think that they would want to do glamouring on TV show, but perhaps they do have something planned for the first episode, it is somewhat similar to changing faces.

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    93. Dragonmcmx,

      No idea if she is going to die early or not, but about meeting Arya again, well, that’s what she said, probably saw it in a fire or something, like Stannis getting his great victory…

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    94. Has anyone suggested that maybe Mel could/will sacrifice herself the way Beric Dondarrion does for LSH in the books.

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    95. Boudica,

      Makes me wonder just what is going to be underneath that robe (cloak dress whatever she’s about to remove) Something tells me that scene will be a reveal in more ways than just the obvious. Is she about to unveil her true self? Is there any hint (I’ve heard the ancient witch one already) of who/what she really is or is that the only possibility?

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    96. Abyss,

      Maybe she meets Arya at the house of black and white. Maybe she’s a faceless (wo)man. After all, there’s only one God, and his name is Death.

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    97. Maggie,

      Yes of course I know you weren’t trying to say something bad about the actors! Sorry if my reply came accross as defensive or smth like that..

      I actually thought you made some pretty good points. I am a fan of Nikolaj too, that’s why I know so much about his career.

      Yes, Mads’s english-speaking choices were not very good either, as I wrote, lots of silly films. But he was right to stay in Denmark and pursue the bulk of his roles there, at list he has a lot of good films in his resume, which unfortunately cannot be said about Nikolaj. I doubt anyone who isn’t a fan can sit through his catalogue.

      Maybe the supporting roles are the way to go for Nikolaj, we’ll see. Or maybe he will land a leading role in a good tv series. Fingers crossed.

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    98. ygritte,

      I really don’t think Melisandre is a faceless (wo)man. There is absolutly nothing concrete in the show to support it. She has shown nothing but devotion to R’hllor, who she clearly pictures as life, not death.

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    99. harlequeen:
      Rygritte,

      Which is exactly what is expected under these circumstances. And anything else would just be a disappointment. Martin has emphasised it over and over again, that death changes a person. And that change is never for the better. It’s an essential plot point in his series. Think Lady Stoneheart or Beric Dondarrion. When one dies and is brought back, one loses parts of oneself. A resurrected character is no longer the character they were pre-revival. Something’s gotta give, something has to change. Even temporary death has to have an impact. Martin has said he isn’t fond of Gandalf’s transformation after his death. Upon his comeback he became better, more powerful, wiser and his essence/good-natured personality stayed the same. I personally have no problem with that, but that’s not how Martin deals with this issue. It’s twisted and abnormal in ASOIAF. Black brother Jon Snow is not going to become White Jon, a Christ-like figure.

      Yeah this is a fair discussion point

      I’m not sure Mel dies early, Ellaria perhaps will but I do reckon Mel and Davos amongst a whole host of other characters like Rickon and Osha, Brynden Rivers/Leaf, Ser Loras Tyrell etc will die this season

      Jon will be brought back but there is always a bittersweet twist to screw you up, like how Joffrey died but Tyrion gets put on trial etc

      So, Jon will come back but his personality will be different. In the books I suspect he’ll be in Ghost for a long time, such a long time that Jon Snow personality will begin to fade, and he’ll sort of go back into his body as Ghost. I’m actually really worried that Ghost will have to be blood sacrificed to bring Jon back similar to what happened with Drogo’s horse

      In the show it may be more straightforward, but he will perhaps be half Wild, so he’d fit in with the Wildlings quite well perhaps…

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    100. Ron Snow:
      I guess I’m one of the few who read that as Kit clearly talking about playing different characters during the “gaps” and “out periods” between filming Game of Thrones seasons.

      Totally agree with you, I think the same.

      Kit is a great actor, his performance in Testament of Youth, Spooks, 7 days in hell, Season 4-5 was amazing… And now Brimstone, Faustus, Xavier Dolan’s Movie and of course season 6… I think he’s a brave actor, any young actor would have chosen superhero’s movies, etc, etc, but he has chosen to do theater, independent films… I love it! (Oh1 99% of the actors begin their careers with not very good films, relax 🙂 ) Some people had many prejudices about him, but I think Kit has proved his acting skills, he needed only good scripts and directors!

      Can’t wait for Davos and Mel this season!!! 🙂

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    101. ^5 for the Hall and Oates reference. Made me chuckle!

      Rygritte: She may ask Davos to take her life since she has nothing left to live for & she fucked up real bad, but Davos won’t go for that. No, no can do. Not yet, not after she cries to him. But, he may want to go Nissa Nissa on her ass when he finds out what she did.

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    102. Abyss,

      What I’m trying to say I guess is that while she thinks she’s serving this R’holler, what if Syrio in saying what he did, that there’s only one God and that’s the god of death (or many-faced God) in other words they are all variations of the same entity. So everybody ends up at the hall of faces. Even though people worship the old gods, or the new, or the “drowned” one or the “red” one, it’s all the same “force” at work in that realm. So if the “glamour” Mel uses is really a form of faceless man trick, only she recognizes her power comes from this Lord of light because that is the persona he’s decided to be for her. Like, he uses people in different ways. I think it’s time for bed lol.

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    103. Lisa0527:
      Hate to change the topic, but this was just posted on Reddit and I think it’s got some very interesting new info, and insight into a characters possible fate in S6.

      https://www.reddit.com/r/asoiaf/comments/4cgmib/spoilers_everything_evidence_of_loras_fate_in/

      These photos sure look alike. https://imgur.com/a/uF5bL

      They straight up say in the prosthetics video that cast and crew members have their faces in the hall and one of the D&D duo even talks about searching for his face in the set.

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    104. harlequeen,

      Well, Lena Heady, Stephen Dillane, Liam Cunningham, and Carice Van Houten are acting veterans. Alfie Allen did a good job as one of the bad guys in John Wick. Sophie Turner is def. on track, she def can act and looking to be in XMen franchise. You might be surprised what you have seen Natalie Dormer in, and the dude who playsLoras just got a DC or marvel super hero Netflix deal, those turn into something. Maybe none of them will become a star, Sophie Turner has the biggest chance, but I think we will see a few of these faces for a while.

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    105. I still think it’s crazy that even a few weeks out from Season 6, with all the verified evidence we have that Kit/Jon is in fact coming back to the show, that whenever he says things like this people STILL kinda sorta believe him.

      Kit has to lie about this. It’s a contractual obligation, and if you hold it against him for lying to you, then I believe you haven’t really thought about what his obligations are to the show and the people who run it are. This plot point is quite literally the most hyped and discussed part of Season 6, and if Kit says anything other than what he’s been saying (dead, not returning), he basically confirms what we all should know to be true at this point.

      And if anyone still doubts it…see the photo of him in Stark armor on what is clearly the battlefield of Episode 9. See the first official promotional poster that is all Jon Snow. See the subsequent promotional materials with Jon littered throughout them (Bran promo with Jon at Hardhome through the entire voiceover, Jon’s body shown three times in the trailer). You don’t promote a character like this if they are a corpse for one episode…

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    106. Stargaryen,

      Sophie is going to have to work on her absolutely horrible American accent. It’s already getting slammed just from what little we’ve seen of X-Men and blind items revealed producers were worried about how bad it is. I guess she can just always play an English character, but her role choices will suffer.

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    107. I can see already this scene: Melisandre strips off her clothes and you think “oh, just another usual annual uncloaking” then she slowly starts taking off her own face. There’s nothing under her mask but a black hole. It’s true. She’s a faceless woman. Death itself.

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    108. Ellaria has to die. She’s already on this ice when she kills Myrcella. I can’t wait. She is an obnoxious character. If she truly knew Oberyn, she would realize he chose to battle a foe and he died making his choice. Yes, he did it to take revenge for his sister and her children, but it was his choice to make….

      I also can’t wait for Cercei’s trial by combat and Cercei and Tommen standoff. And of course, Jon’s outcome, how Sansa takes revenge…oh, the whole season!

      I’d like to see Dany learning how to control her dragons, but maybe not this season?

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    109. Abyss,
      Speaking of Melisandre, I know this part of what Carice said has already been discussed:

      Yes, there was something that I was like, I knew it was coming at some point. People had talked about it before to me but I wasn’t sure when it was going to happen. This is really vague… it’s in episode one already.”

      But I just saw this part, which she said just before it:

      “Asked if there was anything that stood out for her from season six, the 39-year-old actress said: “Yes, not what you think it is. Something else, funny enough. What you’re fishing for, it’s something else.”

      Now this could be taken one of two ways 🙂

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    110. Queensmoot,

      Maggie,

      I might possibly have a “thing” for Nikolaj *shoves thousand snapshots of him back in her bra*

      There’s a blind item out there that back in the day, he refused to participate in casting couch activities and that stalled his career. However, he seems really happy with the career he’s created. Gods of Egypt may have been a brightly colored pile of shit, but it probably paid him some nice money. He’s made another US film coming out in October and another small Danish film and I think he has another in the works.

      He seems happy to work, mountain bike and spend time with his wife and kids without desperately needing to be a number 1 leading man. *pulls a photo out of her bra, sighs dreamily*

      I thought I also read something about Sophie’s accent. She should probably get a coach. She’ll always be Sansa until she gets a role where she cuts off all of her hair. That’s when we’ll see where her career goes.

      Any word on Natalie Dormer? She was doing a ton of press pre-Hunger Games but the latest pap shots of her have her looking seriously run down. Is she shooting something else?

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    111. Agro,

      Why you didn’t reply this to me?

      I feel like a black sheep here but I can’t figure out why that would be the case. What did I doooo? Lol.

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    112. ygritte:
      Boudica,

      Makes me wonder just what is going to be underneath that robe (cloak dress whatever she’s about to remove) Something tells me that scene will be a reveal in more ways than just the obvious. Is she about to unveil her true self? Is there any hint (I’ve heard the ancient witch one already) of who/what she really is or is that the only possibility?

      My guess is some Watchmen are trying to rape her, and she’s showing a defeated acquiescence and disrobing for them (their rapey tendencies were talked about constantly throughout season 5, and I think they’d all like a go at this exotic woman who no longer has any protection) but Davos will aid her and sling a robe over her again (as we see her wearing in the scene with her and Davos in the trailer — she’s wearing a different cloak, some said.)

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    113. ygritte,

      I mean, is that possible? Yes, pretty much everything is, we talking about fantasy here, but as a said before, nothing concrete points to it.

      ygritte,

      One of two ways? The second quote is so vage that it’s pretty much a non-statement, even for book readers and the most enthusiastic collectors of every tiny bit of info about season 6. – Or do I miss something here? 😀

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    114. Valaquen,

      That sounds plausible. But I think it would have to happen very early on because once a certain person is found dead I don’t think their minds will be on that kind of thing. But if that’s what’s happening, how would it further the story? Something else would have to come of it….unless the scene would be all about having a moment for Davos coming to Mel’s rescue, thus initiating a change in their relationship, one where he becomes her protector…which serves her well right now.

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    115. ygritte,
      ahah sorry I lost you in the bunch of comments and when I thought of searching again, I slipped into laziness

      I was watching s03e06 now, jumping the gun and everything and it seems to me that scene between Melisandre and Thoros was some kind of lecture, because Melisandre was missing something as a priestess: she doesn’t truely feel, she cares only for power and is very apathetic in spite of her speeches, while Thoros could only summon R’hllor thanks to a mixture of 1- true friendship to Beric and 2- a supernatural plot going on that envolves Beric being alive. That’s where she’s been failing and where she might redeem herself and suceed in season 6. She needs the first one, the second one is already there

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    116. HotPinkLipstick:
      Queensmoot,

      Maggie,

      There’s a blind item out there that back in the day, he refused to participate in casting couch activities and that stalled his career. However, he seems really happy with the career he’s created. Gods of Egypt may have been a brightly colored pile of shit, but it probably paid him some nice money. He’s made another US film coming out in October and another small Danish film and I think he has another in the works.

      Any word on Natalie Dormer? She was doing a ton of press pre-Hunger Games but the latest pap shots of her have her looking seriously run down. Is she shooting something else?

      I googled for that blind item….and it’s really amazing his has his family and wife above his career, not many people do that.

      I haven’t seen her, but last news i read is that she will shoot a movie with Harrison Ford, i don’t know when.

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    117. Jack Bauer 24: Wasn’t there a rumor that a female main cast member does in episode 1…and she didn’t film a lot…and she’s pregnant now…yeah she’s a goner first episode!

      That won’t be the case, she’s still alive & kicking in Ep 5: Pic.

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    118. Lisa0527, hodor

      This is just a guess obviously, but there was an interview with Finn Jones where he talked about GoT characters loosing what defines them, such as Jaime’s sword hand. He said for Loras that would be his good looks. If the burning (oil) part of his alleged fate in the books happened in the show, whether he survived it or not, if we see him afterwards they’d presumably have to do some prosthetic work along the lines of the Hound’s burns?

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    119. Selina,

      I didn’t care for that either. But that doesn’t mean she can’t/didn’t improve (particularly since it’s a much bigger production); indeed, her accent in the trailer sounds very different from the one she used in Barely Lethal.

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    120. harlequeen:
      It’s sad to say but most of the big guns in GOT castwon’t make it in Hollywood, not big time. And I’m talking both commercial and critical success. I’ll be pleasantly surprised if at least one of them goes big.

      Now, they’ve been hyping up Melisandre but we know her screentime in s6 will be very limited as it’s reported Carice didn’t film much. I just hope whatever small role she has,it is top-notch material.

      Fortunately many of them are respected veterans in other countries on both stage and screen. Even some of the younger actors are establishing themselves in theatre and film outside of the Hollywood standard. But then, I’ve never considered the mainstream LA crowd as the real definition of ‘making it’. 🙂

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    121. HotPinkLipstick,

      I am another big fan of Nikolaj, so I really hope you were right about his being happy with all of his movies and taking pleasure in mountain biking and spending time with his family. I haven’t seen Gods of Egypt yet because I don’t want to feel sorry for him for taking a part in a kitch film just for the money. I wouldn’t blame him, but I would want him to be offered parts matching his talent. I’ll see the film eventually, of course… I can watch any film, no matter how bad, just to stare at Nikolaj. I have seen The Other Woman more than once and not because I like Leslie Mann – I like her, she’s hilarious, but you know what I mean. Anyway, I’m happy he’s playing Jaime – I don’t know whether I like Jaime so much because he’s played by Nikolaj or viceversa.

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    122. Shy Lady Dragon,

      I did see Gods of Egypt, mainly because I was in the mood for something bad. NCW is one of the stronger parts of it, though he spends far too much of his screentime alongside Brenton Thwaites, who was seriously giving one of the most irritating performances I can recall seeing in the last several years.

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    123. Sean C.,

      Thank you! I’ll brace myself and, armoured in the belief that Nikolaj is the best part of Gods of Egypt, I’ll watch the movie.

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    124. Valaquen: sling a robe over her again (as we see her wearing in the scene with her and Davos in the trailer — she’s wearing a different cloak, some said.)

      At first I thought it was Jon’s cloak, but I saw a brightened pic of Mel (I think in that shot of Davos with Longclaw) and you can see she’s wearing a shrug with a fur collar that was part of her costume.

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    125. Sean C.:
      Selina,

      I didn’t care for that either.But that doesn’t mean she can’t/didn’t improve (particularly since it’s a much bigger production); indeed, her accent in the trailer sounds very different from the one she used in Barely Lethal.

      It may be that in the second decade of the 21st century folk are more sophisticated than in the 1960s but back in the day Disney cast the British (then teenaged) actress, Hayley Mills in films such as “The Parent Trap” and “Polyanna” – I’m English and she still sounded English to me in those films but if my understanding is right quite a few Americans liked her despite the dodgy accent. It remains to be seen whether North Americans will cut Sophie a bit of slack. In the UK we tend to laugh at dodgy versions of British accents – though mentioning no names I tend to cover my ears – or avoid – one French lady’s version of an English accent.

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    126. Kit Hairyton:
      Dame of Mercia,

      Eva Green.

      I wanted to try not to be “female doggish”. I quite liked Ms Green’s cousin Josephine Jobert in “Death in Paradise” – not the most erudite programme but I don’t mind a lighter programme sometimes.

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    127. El-Bobby,

      I thought it was fine. Also, pretty much everything about those trailers has been highly criticized, which always happens to Bryan Singer X-Men films, so that doesn’t say much to me.

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    128. Connor,

      Well, I mean, what other reason would there be for Mel to be conveniently placed at the Wall, and for the whole set up in the show where she meets Thoros of Myr and learns of how he resurrected Beric Dondarrion? Why would the show go out of it’s way to have her meet Thoros (which did not happen in the books) if it was not paving the way for her resurrecting Jon? Hints in both the show and books point to this, it would make no sense to not have her involved in some way. Methinks Carice doth protest too much.

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