“I was born to rule the Seven Kingdoms”
The official synopsis:
Daenerys holds court. Tyrion backchannels. Cersei returns a gift. Jaime learns from his mistakes.
“The Queen’s Justice” is written by David Benioff & D.B. Weiss and directed by Mark Mylod.
Check out the official photos here!
Geoffery: There’s sure to be some fall-out from last week’s spectacular sea battle, as Euron returns to King’s Landing with his ‘gift.’ But who doesn’t want to see that meeting between Jon and Dany?
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Hodor!
I am really looking forward to it. I don’t think Jon will bend the knee, but I am hoping with Tyrion there that Dany will be convinced to help. Jon doesn’t want the throne, he never did, but he wants to be able to fight the NK. This episode is looking good…love Euron’s expression in the trailer…look at me, I’m the man!..haha.
I have noticed that although the episodes have been a couple minutes longer the pace is so fast that it flies by and I feel kind of left adrift at the end of the episode. I’ve gone back and rewatched, as I always have, but it still feels too fast for me…anyone else feel that way? I wouldn’t want it dragged out for the sake of more episodes, but a little bit slower would have seemed nice. It’s like very little dialogue with the people you care about before they are on to the next scene. JMHO
In all honesty, I’m starting to get a real sense of foreboding about it.
I always thought I’d be thrilled to see them interact. But now I’m worried about how it’ll go down and what repercussions may come from it.
I wonder how grueseome
death will be. Poison seems too simple and unoriginal.
I think Yara will survive somehow…. maybe Theon attempts a rescue?
Jon and Dany will get along fine.
Whoa! Season 8 scripts are ready and some of the episodes could be 2-hours long! Seven Help Us!
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/tv/0/game-thrones-season-8-scripts-written-episodes-could-2-hours/
I agree, with 7 only episodes they could have added 25 min. to each episode , and kind a sort a did to one. I have puzzled about this till the cows come home, HBO does NOT , like broadcast networks, need fixed time slots , they show movies of any varying length. Still passes beyond my understanding.
“I was born to rule this paper clip dispenser!” — Me at my job
Stonehand Greyfeather,
The title is a bit click baity
Euron seems like he will be getting the Rockstar treatment which should be fun to watch. I hope they explore his more mysterious side. He has some awesome monologues with Victarion in the books. I hope they keep his “I dreamt that I could fly” line in the show.
Stonehand Greyfeather,
Yeah I saw that. Implications are something massive action wise is to happen season 8.
Location shooting , besides Spain, will be interesting to find out.
I suppose it been reported , first I heard of it, GRRM is saying that there are 5! possible spinoffs , all prequels.
Boojam,
I’m so glad I’m not alone in the way that I feel. Just a bit, don’t drag it out just to cram in more episodes (which I’m very happy they didn’t let that happen) but this is just a bit too fast for me.
Interesting to see how Melisandre fits into the conversations, what is that conversation with Varys about? Does she meet Davos?
Also Arya gets to Winterfell next episode? She may be someone no one recognizes.
Does this episode Arya run into the Hound?
Someone please put a sword through Euron…and quickly. Before he completely ruins this show.
I think Melisandre is giving some insight with regard to Jon, to Varys…possibly the path that led to him becoming KitN.
Ryan,
Maybe Yara is the gift that she’ll return to Euron
Boojam,
Also Arya gets to Winterfell next episode? She may be someone no one recognizes.
lol? There was the EW cover where she had something belonging to him: https://ewedit.files.wordpress.com/2017/05/ew1468_as_782872366721.jpg?w=1800&h=2419
One thing, if they wanted to do it, Melisandre could tell Jon Arya is alive.
I’m really looking forward to this one too – so many questions to be answered, my predictions with no intentional spoilers:
– Both Sandsnakes are going to die, I’d assume Yara too but it’s possible Euron rapes and tortures her first for sadistic pleasure. I don’t expect any to make it out of this episode or the next one at the latest though. Queens justice – go Cersei!
– Bran surely has to arrive at Winterfell no idea how he will get on with Sansa now.
– Will Cersei agree to marry Euron and how will Jamie take that?
– Dany/Jon I’m less pumped about this meeting but more about what will happen with Mel, I reckon this is the justice served by Dany here and she is executed after helping Jon for the final time.
The episode is an hour long so I guess mild spoiler from the trailer
Boojam,
I’m with you!
Boojam,
Jon already knows. Sansa/Brienne would’ve told him.
And I don’t think Melisandre knew who Arya was when they met.
If she did, she surely would’ve taken her back to Stannis as well, to be used as a hostage to force Robb to bend the knee. No need for blood magic when you can just threaten to burn his sister alive.
Ramsay’s 20th Good Man,
Did Brienne know it was Arya when she met her? Seemed logical but she never talked about it. I don’t remember mentioning anything to Sansa, might have missed that.
Mel , well Mel seems to know everything, except who can defeat the Others?
How did she know about Gendry ?
Boojam,
Pod recognized her I think
Can’t wait to see Casterly Rock on the opening credits gameboard!
Tycho Nestoris,
That was in that episode? Missed it.
Boojam,
Brienne tells Sansa about Arya at the beginning of Season 6. When Brienne tells her about the encounter, Sansa makes comments about not being surprised that Arya was running around with a sword instead of acting like a lady. So yeah, they know she’s alive. They probably would have told Jon.
Boojam,
Of course Brienne knew who Arya was. That’s the whole reason she fought The Hound.
She told Sansa that she’d seen her in Episode 2 of Season 6.
I can’t remember how Melisandre knew about Gendry. A vision in the flames, presumably.
But if she’d known who Arya was, then she’d definitely have taken her too.
Boojam,
HBO does NOT, like broadcast networks, need fixed time slots
this
Ramsay’s 20th Good Man,
It was common knowledge, Cersei or Joffrey can’t remember had sent their army to kill every bastard of Robert Baratheon. They were looking for Gendry for a while and Stannis was aware of his existence as well.
Of course she knew it was Arya, that’s the whole reason why the fight started between her and the Hound : https://youtu.be/HfIisCcA8Co?t=2m34s
And yes, she mentions it to Sansa in S6 : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmtAKvH0-Xs
EDIT: well, already answered.. 😉
Tycho Nestoris,
Whoops Pod recognized the hound, Brienne rec’g Arya
As much as I care about Jon and Dany meeting, and also what befalls Yara and the Sandsnakes, I have to confess that I’m always more concerned about what’s going on in Sansa’s head. Like Theon, she’s endured horrors which changed her as a person, which leads to unpredictability as a character. I don’t doubt her loyalty to her family; it’s her ability to play “the game” that I’m holding my breath for. With Littlefinger, Varys, and Cersei, we get lots of *knowing* looks and clever words, which tells us viewers that there’s something up their sleeves for various situations. In the last episode, we see Sansa give a worried glance in Littlefinger’s direction when Jon tells her he’s leaving her in charge. She knows Littlefinger will use this, try to use her position. We don’t see Sansa planning her moves in the game, we see her *reacting* to the moves other people make in the game. I think I’ll feel better about Sansa’s situation if we get more evidence that what she’s learned from the major players is paying off.
The King in the North?
http://etcanada.com/news/244137/game-of-thrones-fan-changes-toronto-area-highway-sign-to-jon-snow-parkway/
Ryan,
I also think there will be a rescue attempt
Wonder who will propose Jon and Dany marriage first.
Jon?
Danny?
Tyrion?
Davos?
Varys
Pretty sure it is the solution for them both getting to move on with their stuff
Yara’s situation with at KL has been set up to parallel Theon’s at WF (under the Boltons). There will be a rescue attempt, hopefully with different results, but maybe not this episode.
Also, yeah, the promo photo of Missandei wearing the Grey Worm’s Targ brooch…feels like heavy handed foreshadowing
Interesting that Dany’s experience with blood magic was very negative (Drogo’s bad cure & death of baby) – while JS was resurrected via blood magic… wonder if there will be any discussion of this?
-Where’s Bran?
-“Jaime learns from his mistakes” is enough material all by itself lol. It may mean military mistakes in this case if he is planning an attack on Highgarden.
-Cersei may not kill Yara, she’s valuable as a hostage and Yara can say in all honesty that she only supported Dany because she needed an ally against her uncle.
Will we see the Hound ? With only 11 episodes left, any episode that doesn’t utilize Rory McCann isn’t living up to its full potential. I missed that dude last week.
Jon / Dany
I think it will be fine. I suspect the initial meeting will be somewhat similar to the Yara/Dany interaction. Dany says she requires oaths from the lords of Westeros, Jon says he will be her ally but can’t kneel, her advisers get pissy on her behalf she archly raises an eyebrow and smiles a little etc etc like every other damn time someone challenges her. Then they get down to the real business of the details, likely via various meetings like Jon with Tyrion, Varys wiht Mel, etc etc. Ultimately Dany and Jon will have a private meeting (not that kind) and come up with a temporary solution that is mutually beneficial.
For those people who apparently tune out whenever Dany is on screen and actually think she would publickly threaten to burn alive the King in the North for daring not to kneel in her presence, she actually enjoys being challenged – and so far she has only brought violence to those who brought it first – primarily slaver scum. Just like Jon. The absolute worst we’ll get it something like “my father would burn you alive for refusing to kneel, but I am not my father”
O that’s right. Good conversation.
Then she never told Jon? Jon never asked?
I missed that if he did.
Boojam,
I have this theory that maybe once Jon and Davos get there, and they expose what Melisandre actually did, Dany might turn on her and order her executed or let Davos do it.
Maybe her one job was to get Jon and Daenerys together (which included rezzing Jon).
Just my two coppers.
Despite the furor over Jon / Dany the events surrounding Cersei’s court will dominate this episode. Given the order and wording of the events in the synopsis, we might be able to predict a few things:
OK so. Cersei returns a gift. She hasn’t even received one as of yet, so presumably early in the episode Euron will return with his captives. I have to assume Cersei will kill Elaria and Tyene horribly and publicly (wildfire?). I think Euron will kill Yara before he gets there – even if Cersei would find her useful, Euron is playing his own game and in that game there’s no reason to bring her back alive.
So what is the gift? First, she could send the head of one or more of her prisoners back to Dany/Tyrion as a warning. Second, she could give Euron a gift in return (marriage?). However – the preview has Jaime and Cersei making out again. From this we can deduce that Cersei is still smart enough, apparently, to realize she needs to at least try to keep Jaime on her side, and the surest way to ruin that would be to let Euron into her bed openly. Adding him to her court/formal alliance can be rationalized and I’m guessing that’s what Cersei is trying to convince Jaime to accept (getting him to accept marriage to Euron would be a tall order!? But maybe). It could be that Cersei returning the gift is letting Euron fuck her. I wonder if burning the Sands alive will excite Cersei sexually like with Aerys… Then she tries to get w/ Jaime (trailer shot) but he’s disgusted with what she just did and hits abort, so then she lets Euron take over – sick fuck like him would be down.
Jaime realizes his mistake:
Jaime jaime jaime… you have many so many where do we start.
Jaime is apparently going to go somewhere that looks Highgardenish. Could just be that he realizes the mistake that Casterly Rock got taken while he was in elsewhere? That seems boring. Will he witness Cersei torture Tyene to death with wildfire and realize she’s really Mad King 2.0? Will he find out that Cersei plans to marry Euron and feel betrayed? SOMETHING BIG WILL HAPPEN WITH MY BOY! I can’t wait.
They seem to be waring the same pendent in the same episode, so Tyrion does not need one but does Varys get one?
It’s interesting that Hand of the King pin seems to be the ones the Targ Hands wore , Robert didn’t change it.
Boojam,
One thing we have to assume in this show, is that many conversations happen off screen
We can only check in on characters 5-10 mins an episode.
Sansa needed to hear it, because it was the first time Brienne/Pod met a Stark after Arya.
After that, we presume Sansa told Jon offscreen. Because we’ve already received the emotional payoff of seeing Sansa hear it, retreading it with Jon provides little. Sansa also probably told Jon about Bran being alive (she learned from Theon) offscreen.
I assume nothing.
Figured it would be an dramatic moment too , not as dramatic as Arya meeting Jon.
Figured Jon would ask at least.
I hope that happens.
Sam is the one who told Jon in S4.
Boojam,
Ah interesting point. When I watched Stormborn again, I tried to look for the brooch, expecting to see it on Missandei. However, I only saw it on GW. To your point, that’s not to say that they all can’t have.
Jon already knew about Bran, from Sam when he took him north of the Wall.
But Sansa and Jon definitely confirmed what they each knew about their siblings off-screen when they were reunited at Castle Black, since Sansa said to Jon, “Winterfell is our home. It’s ours. And Arya’s, and Bran’s and Rickon’s, wherever they are, it belongs to our family”.
Boojam,
He already knows. In their first scene together, Sansa tells hims “Winterfell is our home. It’s ours. And Arya’s, and Bran’s and Rickon’s…” which implies that she already told him off-screen that Arya is alive.
Elizabeth,
Yes, I’m always surprised when the episode ends. It always feels too early!
Turncloak,
You know as much as I despised Euron and Victarion in the books, I do have to say that conversation about humans afraid to take the leap was really great on his part. I do hope the show finds a way to include it somewhere, somehow.
Brilliant!
Oh Joey, if you find show Euron that dreadful maybe you should stop watching the show – or just close your eyes and count to 10 when he comes on the screen. *Please note I’m not getting at you if you instinctively dislike the transition from page to screen of the character. Different strokes for different folks I guess – I loathed book Euron and I don’t understand why people like him. Book Euron was cruel and a rapist and generally a nasty piece of work. (I don’t know if you are familiar with the HBO/BBC show “Rome” from a while ago – I had reservations about that show) but I thought of book Euron as being a bit like Titus Pullo only with dark hair and more brain). I personally don’t blame Pilou Asbaek for having a bit of fun with the character. It could be show Euron is a cross between book Euron and book Victarion (I loathed Victarion too).
* In real life I thought a lady was going to challenge me to handbags at dawn once because I said I thought a certain female writer of historical fiction was inaccurate. Well, I’m exaggerating but the lady did become quite animated. Ultimately we agreed to disagree.
After last season I had a specific scene in my mind for Arya’s return to Winterfell and her reunion with Jon and it involved arriving incognito. Sadly that reunion is off the table for now and I’m starting to wonder if her using faces might be done. Once she gets to Winterfell I wouldn’t think she’d need to use that skill… Who knows after that?
I really don’t think we’re going to get a reunion with her and Sandor for a while either. They were all about getting to Eastwatch and I think they’ll skirt Winterfell on the way. The BwoB aren’t into cozy time at castles, especially one that has the Vale army bivouacked right outside the walls. Another short run-in along the road again would feel like too many coincidental meetings to me as well.
Very hyped for this episode! Like others very excited for the Jon and Daenerys meeting.
Also hope that Bran gets to Winterfell in this episode. We’ve only seen him briefly in the first episode.
And because most of the promo stuff has focused on Jon and Daenerys I have a feeling something else major will happen that we don’t know about. Have no clue what though.
I hope Jaime learns from his mistakes with CERSEI and/or the Mad King, but afraid this is another misleading description- could it be they hear of impending invasion to Casterly Rock, and the “mistake” he learns from is letting Tyrion go, and he doubles down not just on defending CR but on backing Cersei wholeheartedly. That would be frustrating- which makes it very GoT lol
All I can say is…I agree 100%.
HelloThere,
The show already had Sam tell Jon in S4.
Ramsay’s 20th Good Man,
zod,
Thank you both! I too had wondered whether Jon knew Arya was alive. I get the off screen conversations situation, but Arya is family! And, lo and behold, its right there in that line and in a very meaningful way too. Upon viewing the episode back then Arya’s name must have just flown by my ears! Thanks!
Can’t wait to see Jon’s reaction to seeing the dragons for the first time. Hope that they don’t get lame and don’t show it. But I think that they will.
Wondering what happens to Jorah the next morning. The arch-meister said he would give him one day. Sam is not going to cure him overnight.
Definitely need the Hound this episode. I really missed him last week.
Ryan,
Oh no, Cersei will do something horrible to Elarias kid and force her to watch, Cersei is now the “mad queen”
I’m looking forward to seeing Casterly Rock fall and then Cersei’s reaction (I’m sure she spend plenty of time gloating about Euron’s victory) as well as Bran returning to WF (if he does this episode – he might end up spending more time at castle black first)
Oh I have just been waiting for this episode since I read AGoT in 2011!No biggie lol.
Couldn’t agree more.
It would be awful if they didn’t. I think Jon & Co should see the dragons flying about well before they reach Dragonstone. Heck, Dany should be taking Drogon for a daily recon spin and see them approaching. If Jon approaches Dany in the throne room without any hint of dragons beforehand, that will be disappointing.
I am looking forward to the meeting between Jon and Daenerys, like a million others, I expect! 😀
Very curious about Mel and Varys. And about Sam and Jorah.
Less enthused about stuff at King’s Landing and all things Cersei.
I have completely given up on Jaime – even if he goes against his sis/lover at some point, it will be way too little and too late.
From the last episode, I have truly begun to have some fear about my favorite human character, Tyrion. Some things in the last episode begun to sound off to me. I hope it all turns out OK by the end.
Am I the only one that thinks Arya in no longer heading for Winterfell?
Clob,
Are we even certain Arya is still heading for Winterfell? I got the feeling she changed her plans when Nymeria walked away.
Boojam,
I’m not sure Arya is still going to Winterfell. And she would be a ways behind the Hound and the BWOB, more likely The Hound and Bran make it to Winterfell this week.
In my opinion, when Nymeria turned away, Arya decided going home is not her path.
My theory is that Dany is blown away when she shows her dragons to Jon as an intended intimidation tactic and one of them flies over to him and is very friendly and gentle. The dragons will sense the Targ blood in him!
Jon Snowed,
Love the theories! But, I think that D&D are done with rape scenes. After what happened with Jaime and Cersei then Ramsay and Sansa, I think they’d be too gun shy to stir that controversy pot again. We shall see though 🙂
John from Houston,
Yes. Since the last we saw her she was heading there, it would be absurd for her to have changed her plans off-screen.
Of the old gods,
That was my thought too. When I first saw that in the episode description, I doubted he would consider anything involving Cersei a “mistake”. But I believe he did have some regret for setting Tyrion free after Tyrion killed Tywin.
*BTW-I hope I’m wrong and he does regret supporting Cersei instead.
If CR gets conquered by Dany, I suspect Cersei wont even care a lot about it. Not sure but I thought she hasnt been there for long and since she made KL kind of her home now.
I still want those waterproof boots.
I hope people aren’t so hyped up for Dany and Jon meeting that they end up disappointed. I think it’ll be awesome, but I’m not expecting fireworks and huge amounts of emotions. We are all invested in the two, however to each other right now, they are simply people of interest. While seeing them together at last will be really cool, I’m hoping others aren’t expecting too much at first.
Silent Sister,
IMO, the mistake Jaime is going to learn from will be that, if he fails to please her, she will take another man. I imagine, Cersei will flirt with Euron and put the blame on Jaime – like “you are worthless”, “when did I last get a gift from you” etc. Jaime will get jelous (he already is) and try to prove that he is also capable of getting the gift she wants. Competition is a tricky thing: people often indulge into it without really knowing, if they really want the fing they compete for. There was a bit of that in Arya’s recent storyline and there will be plenty of that in Jaime’s.
John from Houston,
While I hope she goes home, I would not be surprised if she did not. When she says to Nymeria “I’m finally going home,” that sounded genuine to me. Her interaction with Nymeria, who chose to stay with her pack, gave her another example of how important it is to be true to oneself. But who is Arya right now? The poor girl has gone through a lot and I think she is still in the process of figuring that out. Whoever she is, I think the little girl in her wants to see her big brother Jon, and he is in WF (as far as she knows) . I say brother, because in her eyes, that is what he is to her. So, I hope she goes home….
John from Houston,
The scene with Nymeria was meant as one where she realises that Nymeria is not her pet anymore and has her own pack.
It’s time for Arya to return to hers.
It would be a bit stupid to have the big revelation at the Inn and then a very obvious ‘should I or shouldn’t I?’ moment before making a decision only to simply change direction next scene. Is Arya going to just ‘ping-pong’ indecisively around the Riverlands for the next few episodes? I think not.
It’s time to unite the Starks and build the Devastarkator.
Jon wears that ruddy great big cloak when he’s in doors next to a roaring fire and then takes it off as soon as he’s on his travels.
onefromaway,
Gonna be pissed when she finds out that cow Sansa’s there and has been stealing all her hair products from the bathroom.
Violator,
Yes but he looks so good in fur.
Yep, so do I. Night King has good boots too.
I’m thinking Yara’s fate will be similar to Damphair’s in the WoW excerpt that GRRM released (to the public) last year. I’m sure D&D saw it way before then anyway.
Inga,
I do agree that the interaction between Euron and Cersei will finally get to Jaime. I’m just afraid to hope it will happen in the next episode.
Cersei’s Brain,
I wouldn’t call Jon’s resurrection blood magic. Mel just used a little water, washed Jon’s hair and gave his beard a little trim. That’s a big difference to the witch literally needing the blood of Dany’s horse and ultimately the death of her baby. I wouldn’t equate the two. Davos did call Mel’s actions blood magic, but he was referring more to burning people at the stake. This was different than Mel just saying the ancient words and grooming Jon.
Waaa Waaa… Show Dany is as whiny as Book Dany.
Hurry up Sunday. Let the sex and the violence begin!
On a serious note, the White Walker community is in mourning today after the news that one of their own, Reince Priebus, has been fired from his position as the Hand of House Cheeto.
Catspaw Assassin,
I am starting to feel as if I am in the minority about WW. They are a weapon against human consumption not some “evil” force. They aren’t “villians” when compared to this administration. Any “malice” from the WW is in pursuit of equilibrium not the positive feedback loop of reaganomics.
LMAO, sounds like an Office/GoT crossover.
Right there with you. I am not excited in the least. Its only going to be bad for both of them if they meet and strike up a relationship. Love=doom in this series if that’s the direction they’re going with them.
Tycho Nestoris,
😉 As far as the WW go I’m on Team Let’s Make A Deal. Such an ending would piss-off folks who want a pure black & white good vs. evil smackdown, but it would be original.
After several huge battle scenes of course. I don”t watch this show just for the intrigue and taut buttocks.
I’m cautiously optimistic for this weekend’s episode, but D&D have a tall order introducing Dany and Jon. I thought her homecoming was beautiful but lacked a poignancy and sense of occasion that I’d anticipated.
Similarly here. I hope there’s real substance and depth to this meeting. Not another “we all hate Cercei let’s go kill her” convo. And if you ship Jon and Dany (I don’t), then there needs to be obvious chemistry (or even antipathy…thin line between love and hate! Hello Tormienne).
Catspaw Assassin,
After of course⚔️⛓❄️
I think Daenerys would have some sympathy for what Melisandre did because Daenerys just told Varys that she would burn Varys alive if he betrays her Queen Daenerys and Daenerys admitted that she didn’t know much about the The Lord of Light so I don’t think she will judge Melisandre.
Two different motives for the same activity.
I’d like to see Jamie bring justice to Ellaria Sand instead of Cercei.
Jamie had his first father daughter bonding moment with Myrcella and then Myrcella died seconds later.
Jamie should show some emotion and anger for the first time.
Joey,
Yeah, haha.
I’m trying not to have any expectations beyond just being happy to finally see Jon and Dany interact.
It won’t be anywhere near as interesting as it would be if the writing were as stellar as it was in the earlier seasons.
D&D do indeed have a VERY tall order, and nothing I’ve seen from them really gives me confidence in their ability to get it just right.
I’d feel more confident about the quality of their interaction if Cogman or GRRM were writing the episode.
D&D’s dialogue just isn’t my cup of tea.
I bet Dee Stark would approve of that, but believe she lives in Ottawa – not Toronto 😀
Agree. The dialogues are perfect serviceable to advance the story but they leave me vaguely dissatisfied on an emotional level. Jon could have shared with Sansa that he had been in love once. Sansa could have shared with Jon and us her feelings on ever marrying again. And that they never mentioned Arya and Bran in conversation is a huge oversight and major disappointment! Similar feels with Cersei/Jaime.
Would 5 more minutes in 7.1 and 7.2 of talking scenes have broken the budget?
Interesting. I wonder just how much emotion Cersei will have toward Ellaria regarding the murder of Myrcella. Her current demeanor seems as if she has accepted her MtF curse. Since Cersei already took Oberyn away from Ellaria with such smug satisfaction, she may indeed let Jaime carry out “the queen’s justice.” If so, I wonder if Jaime will consider using her as a negotiating tactic with the Dornish army? Perhaps this issue will be the straw that broke the camel’s back between them. Or maybe Casterly Rock falling will break them (courtesy of Tyrion). Regardless, Jaime’s bound to be alienated with Cersei at some point soon.
A Transformers fan, I take it? Though my connection goes back 25 years to when I was a wee lad. Haven’t watched the Bay stuff.
One thing about the nymeria/arya scene:
Did you notice that the wolves in nymeria’s pack were the same wolves they used for the other direwolves?
I surely recognized quigley, the White wolf, who plays ghost, then there was the black one who played shaggydog. And I think I recognized greywind and summer as well.
Do you think it’s just a coincidence because there are not so many tamed wolves who can act, or distribution you think they did it on purpose to foreshadow arya’s reunion with her own superpack?
What so you think? I’m really curious.
She Wolf,
Damn auto-correct function in tablet: instead of “do” it wrote “distribution”.
Tron79,
I always figured Shireen’s burning accounted for the necessary blood price.
lucy,
Some have said they won’t need to show any real character development and are fine with it because we’ve had 6 seasons worth but I feel like if we have spent so much time with these character, if we like them, of course we want to continue getting insight on how they feel about certain people and events as they are occurring, is something that should never be sacrificed otherwise it’s just plot advancement but delivered in a detached, unfeeling way.
Violator,
The costume designer said they eventually decided to go with no cloak here so as to make him appear vulnerable. I’m guessing what they were really after is something a little different.
firstone,
“For the first time?” Remeber that bath scene in season 3 with Brienne???
That’s not really fair to say, to be honest. For the past six seasons, the average runtime of an episode was about 54-55 minutes. This season, with the exception of E4, all episodes get AT LEAST those five extra minutes, with the upcoming E3 getting ten extra minutes.
Meaning that, in all fairness, it’s simply never enough.
Something I just thought of that’s a bit worrisome. Leaks:
this could be why Kit jokes around that Jon hates Brienne lol.
Dutch Maester,
“…in all fairness, it’s simply never enough.”
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You’re right. I could’ve watched Hot Pie and Arya discussing baking techniques for 30 minutes, and still wanted more.
None of this is relevant to the story and plot right now. Dwelling on extraneous stuff like this would not just distract from the story, but actually detract from it. We got the stuff that is going to be important this year: the disagreement over whether the important enemy is the one to the north or to the south, the disagreement about the subsequent tactics and even strategy that needs to be taken, and (perhaps most importantly) the first direct indication that, at this point, Cersei is Sansa’s #1 Role Model at this point and that Sansa is not fully cognizant or accepting of it.
The last bit is a really big point that does not seem to be getting much discussion, but it’s something that has come up quite a bit in the past. Sansa has seen the enemy, and she hates it, but she also has learned something: they were tactically smarter than her side was.
Putting in stuff about past love lives, etc. (which is stuff that they could have discussed anytime) would simply make the audience wonder: what was the point of that scene? Getting off the point does not enrich scenes anymore than adding sawdust to flour enriches a cake: it’s just bad storytelling.
I’m seeing….
*looks into flames*
** realizes that the stovetop is electric and doesn’t do flames**
… brooding intensity…
Man, I’m good, aren’t I?
This does not make it common knowledge, and it does not mean that Melisandre & Cersei had the same knowledge source. Melisandre probably knew from the flames: and Melisandre is how Stannis knew. Cersei & Joffery probably knew from staff: Robert’s sleeping habits were hardly too secret, and Jon Arryn didn’t have much difficulty tracking down Robert’s bastards withs similar (and perhaps identical) resources as Joffery & Cersei would have had.
Good question! My bet is that this could be similar to the issues that we’ll see on Dragonstone with old adversaries. Now, it’s not quite the same: Cersei is cognizant of only one general enemy and it’s not as if sparing Ellaria brings about the same sort of tangible benefits as sparing a sorceress. However, one could see Jaime counseling to keep these people as hostages: after all, his being held hostage instead of being killed had definite effects on the war effort for his captors, even if they were not realized.
The “sate my immediate impulse” vs. “keep the big picture in mind” aspect of choosing one’s battles could be a recurring issue this year, and the sides choosing the latter might fare better in the end. As Cersei is not exactly the master of impulse control (more like the Queen of Impulsive Overreaction), I am thinking that this could wind up badly for Ellaria! (Not that I particularly care: you know how I feel about anything to do with Dorne!) Still, I wonder if this will be another brick in the wall between her and Jaime: he’s becoming more soulful while she’s become more soulless.
I agree with 95% of your post… I don’t think their is much if any character development in season 6 and none in season 7. Season 5 is great for character development… Daenerys learning to rule as a Queen. Cercei using the High Sparrow to get rid of Margery Littlefinger/Sansa – Tyrion with Varys Jorah and Daenerys Arya learning about Faceless Men all are strong in season 5. Not so much in season 6.
Nope, it isn’t. If they added five more minutes of dialogue people would just complain about the episode being dialogue-heavy and dragging. If they add more action people complain about that.
Certain segments of fans will bash D&D no matter what they do.
I predict that towards the end of tomorrow’s episode Tyrion is going to ride one of the dragons, perhaps li’l Rhaegal (the runt of the litter?), and will return in triumph, followed by copious puking, followed by copious wine drinking.
Perhaps that was them flying over King’s Landing in Bran’s vision?
Oh my goodness has anyone else just seen the Jon clip from Sunday’s episode shown about half an hour ago on Sky ?????!!!!!!
It was a few seconds long, one of those clips they show on half the screen while the credits are rolling on another show. It showed Jon on Dragonstone looking very surprised! I don’t want to say anymore in case it was only shown in the UK!
I just squealed and ran around the lounge twice while my kids stared at me. Oh wow that was amazing!
Brienne told Sansa after rescuing her in 6.02, even saying Arya wasn’t very lady-like being dressed like a boy.
Me too. A showbiz saying is “Always leave ’em hungry for more.” Arya does.
Ramsay’s 20th Good Man,
“And I don’t think Melisandre knew who Arya was when they met. If she did, she surely would’ve taken her back to Stannis as well, to be used as a hostage to force Robb to bend the knee. No need for blood magic when you can just threaten to burn his sister alive.”
That’s logical, but judging from Mel’s expression, she may think Arya will be her death. Not only would she not want her own Grinning Reaper along for the trip, but the BWB might not let her have Arya anyway. She was worth a small fortune and a possible Stark alliance to them.
Joey,
Don’t worry, the show has been on it’s way downhill since Season 5. Euron, while silly and over the top so far, has been like a little bit of happiness and enjoyment in the otherwise morose Season 7. I don’t really care for any of the characters at this point because none are close to the books, so I’m just watching for some casual fun. And Euron gives us that.
What a surprise.
The quotation at the top of the post makes the perfect caption 😄
Thank you. You expressed exactly what I meant.
I always figured Shireen’s burning accounted for the necessary blood price.