Game of Thrones Season 6 Episode 9 – Battle of the Bastards – Open Chat

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Game of Thrones Season 6, Episode 9 “Battle of the Bastards”

Writers: David Benioff and D.B. Weiss
Director: Miguel Sapochnik
Runtime: 60 minutes
Content Warnings: TV-MA: Adult Content, Adult Language, Graphic Violence
Video Preview: Full episode 9 preview on YouTube

Synopsis:  Terms of surrender are rejected and accepted.

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    1. This has way more hype then Hardhome did last year, which i think will end up hurting this episode. I have no doubt it will be epic, but one of the great things about Hardhome is that it took everyone by surprise. BotB has immense hype to live up to now.

      Yes, i know HH was episode 8 last year, but it was the big battle episode of the season.

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    2. Last time I’m posting this, if you haven’t watched this extended fan-made trailer yet, take 3 minutes & do it. You can thank me later!

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    3. I am curious about the death toll this episode. I think the next one will have a bigger one, but how many named characters will have their curtain calls next week? 🙂

      Jack Bauer 24:
      And I’m scared and nervous that next week Thrones is gone until next year.

      Shouldn’t you be even more scared that Thrones will be gone forever in about two years? 😀

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    4. What do you think is happening in the preview when Tormund has a stunned look on his face and kind of steps back?

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    5. So so happy this is finally up! Been checking all evening. Let the hype begin! I am staying up till 2am for this one. I hope it doesn’t feel anti-climactic after all the build up; I’m optimistic it won’t. The preview looks amazing! I am fearful for several of our beloved characters – Tormund, Ghost Rickon mainly – but I feel quite confident that Jon, Sansa and Davos will make it out alive. I feel that Jon is an end game character, Sansa needs to unite the north (and may be the last remaining true Stark if Rickon doesn’t make it out of Ramsey’s clutches) and I feel Davos has been built up too much and still has much to do in an advisory role to lose his life just yet (though he’s the one I’m least sure about. I love that guy, I hope he makes it!!).

      Episode spoiler:

      Not sure if this is a spoiler, but I’ll play it safe: I’m also pretty excited to see the conclusion of Mereen, which I never thought I’d say, but having read people’s thoughts on here, I have become a bit hyped for that too. I really can’t wait to see Yara and Dany meet!

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    6. Really excited about this episode. I do have high hopes, but I will be fair in my assessment. Let’s hope it completely knocks it out of the park!

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    7. I feel that these next two episodes will set a lot of things in motion for the endgame. I’m excited!

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    8. Hoyti Von Totiy:
      Seven blessings to you all and may the episode leak within 3 hours so us European folk can watch it like normal people.
      7

      They really should find a better time frame or move it to friday or Saturday at least?If you are working getting through Monday without spoilers is hopeless

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    9. I’m beyond excited for tonight. Some people will whine and nitpick like they always do, but I’m certain that ‘Battle of the Bastards’ will be one of the best episodes to date. Have fun everyone!

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    10. HYPE HYPE HYPE!

      Also, so anxious about losing characters tonight.

      As always, staying up to watch it at 2am!

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    11. Davos going ballistic on Melisandre after finding out about Shireen’s fate …. hopefully

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    12. Jack Bauer 24:
      What do you think is happening in the preview when Tormund has a stunned look on his face and kind of steps back?

      I think it’s the Bolton army surrounding (and advancing towards) the wildlings with shields and spears.

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    13. So nervous for this , my hubs is like ” you know it’s not real ” . But then he isn’t a throner. Have a candle lighting ( if your Irish you’ll get that ) for Jon and Tormund to survive and fight another day.

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    14. Wimsey,

      Yeah, I think the same thing. They haven’t been showing us what he’s been up to, and I think that’s because he’s certainly been up to something.

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    15. Don’t forget Mereen! Will we see all 3 dragons onscreen together again for the first time since Season 4? Will we see a naval battle with the Greyjoys/Masters?

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    16. Seeing that shot of Davos all blown up on the e-mail…that sure likes what might be the remains of a carved stag figurine in his hands!

      Of all the characters high on the death watch list for this episode, Davos is the one whose loss I would mourn the most. Hope he makes it. Modest fellow that he is, maybe he’s underestimating his skills when he calls himself “not much of a fighter.” Presumably smugglers get into scraps now and then, in seedy waterfront taverns or when boarded by pirates who aren’t quite a friendly as Salladhor Saan!

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    17. Hoyti Von Totiy:
      Seven blessings to you all and may the episode leak within 3 hours so us European folk can watch it like normal people.

      ?

      Ha, this is the one episode that’s made me wish for a leak all morning. Less than 5 hours now. 😀

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    18. Hoyti Von Totiy:
      Seven blessings to you all and may the episode leak within 3 hours so us European folk can watch it like normal people.

      I hope so, I also planned in my day today an afternoon-nap in, just in case to be fully awake to see this episode clearly. Now I’m rewatching the old 9th episode and Hardhome.
      By the way I’ve read today an interview with Sibel Kekilli (Shae) about a film theme-related to Terre des Femmes and she was pointing out, that the photos with her seen on the Game of Thrones-set, was just a photographical document of an visit from her on set to meet old co-workers. Quote from her :”Ich werde nicht als Zombie zurückkehren” – I won’t returning as a zombie.
      So I think a vision with her is out of the way now, with so much to happen yet.

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    19. I can’t believe I have been exited about this battle since september and it’s finally here.I’m sure it’s going to be great and I’m chill about jon but starting the prayer circle for his supporting cast even though I am confident they will make it

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    20. Between Mereen and the pre battle Northern scenes (Jon/Mel, Jon/Sansa, Davos/Shireen pyre, Ramsay/Rickon) I’m going to say that the actual battle will be under 15 minutes.

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    21. Will be hard to top Hardhome but that’s also because I didn’t know about that episode in advance.

      This could be the best battle scene ever, I guess the cost is on par with some hollywood movie budgets.

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    22. Super excited, both for Winterfell ánd Meereen!

      Somehow I don’t think many ‘good’ characters will die. Rickon most likely. I hope Ghost gets some awesome scenes!

      And I also ‘pray’ to see all three dragons flying above the harpies, lighting them with fire. That would be beyond awesome.

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    23. Miss Stark,

      Part of the basis for my suspicion is that it would be fitting if one of Jon’s acts to save people from the Walkers wound up being a cause of what lets the Walkers into the realm: if Ramsay (or, more probably, men acting under his orders) sack Castle Black, then the Wall will be largely unmanned.

      I suspect that we will see a parallel in Kings Landing: Jaime’s action to save the city from burning is going to set up Cersei torching much of it. There might not be “good” or “evil” in Martinverse, but there does seem to be a “no good deed goes unpunished” anti-karma!

      However, because I irrationally “like” Edd, I am hoping that I am wrong!

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    24. Moondoor,

      I am thinking about petitioning to HBO regarding moving the initial airing to Saturday. The present situation is unbearable.
      PS. I’ll be staying up all night and reading this thread. Plaese, someone inform what’s happening.

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    25. Chuck:
      Jack Bauer 24,

      Wun Wun kicks it?

      I think so. He’s the last of the giants right? It’ll be easier on them as well next season when they don’t have to include any giants in the big battle that will include dragons and white walkers.

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    26. I struggle to take people seriously who spell Meereen as Mereen. We’ve been there for three seasons, so you’d think people would have realised by now.

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    27. Jack111: And I also ‘pray’ to see all three dragons flying above the harpies, lighting them with fire. That would be beyond awesome.

      I suspect that might be next week. Still, perhaps they will do the two battles in parallel in some way. In some ways, that might work best. However, we’ve gotten almost nothing in the previews to indicate that will be what is happening: that does not mean that it will not happen, but it seems probable that they would have set it up.

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    28. I’m being intelligent for once and not subscribing to this thread, since I have to work tomorrow and I know my phone will positively explode with notifications after the episode if I do. Lol. Enjoy, all, and remember that what is dead may never die…..

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    29. Like others, very nervous for some much-loved characters. Fingers and toes crossed. I could stay up until 3.10 in the morning (it’s on Sky from 2.00 until 3.10), or watch tomorrow, and with the recent ones I’ve been doing the morning watch. But sooo tempted to stay up tonight!

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    30. I think that Blackfish is not really dead and he will appear to help Norh with Tully army.

      I am very worried about Rickon, I wish it won’t occur anything bad to him

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    31. Wimsey,

      Edd needs to be at the Wall when it falls down and to meet Bran.

      How it can parallel? It’s better two unique battles, we don’t need parallels for every single thing. The outcome will be different too most likely. Daeny winning, Jon not so much.

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    32. Inga:
      Moondoor,

      I am thinking about petitioning to HBO regarding moving the initial airing to Saturday. The present situation is unbearable.
      PS. I’ll be staying up all night and reading this thread. Plaese, someone inform what’s happening.

      Let me know when you do!I’m dreading next year already,now Monday morning is still an option.

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    33. Tonight is going to be a real roller coaster ride, first game 7 of the NBA finals (go Warriors!!!) and then hop over to HBO to watch this epic episode.

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    34. Hi all.

      I think Brienne and Pod will be on those crosses and Ramsay will taunt Jon: So you thought you were getting help from The Riverlands?

      That would explain Tormunds look of surprise and give more weight to the long goodbye on the river last episode.

      I hope I’m wrong though.

      I’m sure this will be great but the showrunners seem to have been over selling the season. I remember that one of them said, that there wasn’t a single weak episode this year. A lot of fans seem to disagree…

      So my fear is that they deliver a top five episode and lots of people will be disappointed anyway.

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    35. I’m getting anxious for Rickon and Tormund in particular.

      Really hoping Ramsay finally gets it. It does seem like a Thunderdome situation and they can’t kill off Jon again. That would make no sense. Here’s hoping that graphic violence warning is partially there because Ramsay dies painfully. I’m still nervous that he won’t even though narratively he needs to go so the North can finally focus on the White Walker/Wight apocalypse.

      Gah! I keep telling myself that I won’t drink during GoT so that I’m not a mess on Monday, but this show drives me too it 😀

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    36. Wimsey:
      Miss Stark,

      Oh, sorry: I’ve long suspected that it is going to be Edd and other NW members.Ramsay did promise retribution if his bride was not returned.

      Fuck! Dolorous is the word for the day today on m-w.com. I got crazy worried that it was a spoilerific patronage to Edd, but then I thought, the Wall isn’t even in this episode. Now you’ve extinguished that hope.

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    37. Wimsey,

      Yes he does. We need at least one of our characters and it certainly makes more sense than putting him on the cross. Osha as Wildling could be one, Stannis other or Roose. We got 6 crosses.

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    38. Ginevra: I got crazy worried that it was a spoilerific patronage to Edd, but then I thought, the Wall isn’t even in this episode. Now you’ve extinguished that hope.

      heh, now we transition from Instant Karma to Synchronicity!

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    39. Wimsey,

      [ spoiler ] I can recall over last summer a post of mentioning the Battle of 6 armies with BOB posting. 3 armies battling, armies probably being Starks, Boltons, and Nights of the Vale. that would leave 3 for Meereen with Masters, Dany, and Greyjoys but just thought who knows what will happen. [ / spoiler]

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    40. I have a fear that

      Brienne and Pod

      could be a startling choice to have on the Bolton crosses.

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    41. …But to be fair English isn’t my native language:
      Hi all.

      I think Brienne and Pod will be on those crosses and Ramsay will taunt Jon: So you thought you were getting help from The Riverlands?

      That would explain Tormunds look of surprise and give more weight to the long goodbye on the river last episode.

      I hope I’m wrong though.

      I’m sure this will be great but the showrunners seem to have been over selling the season. I remember that one of them said, that there wasn’t a single weak episode this year. A lot of fans seem to disagree…

      So my fear is that they deliver a top five episode and lots of people will be disappointed anyway.

      I think it is safe to say Brienne is definitely not on a cross.

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    42. Prediction wise, I think Tormund (those romance scenes with Brienne would be so much more tragic in hindsight) and Wun Wun will die along with Smalljon Umber and the younger Karstark. Ser Davos might bite it, but I sincerely hope he doesn’t. He’s my favorite.

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    43. Geralt of Rivia: Yes he does. We need at least one of our characters and it certainly makes more sense than putting him on the cross.

      I do not see how either story or plot require Ed or the remainder of the Watch to be alive. On the other hand, the removal of the Watch certainly opens up plot avenues for letting the Walkers get through the Wall: and that has to happen soon.

      Moreover, wouldn’t the Crows be more shock-value for Jon and the “loyalists?” They no longer mean anything to the Bolton faction: with the Wildlings in Westeros, the Watch no longer has a purpose. However, to the “loyalists,” it would be a powerful statement of what the new order does to those that betray them. And it certainly would be thematically very appropriate.

      As for Osha, Stannis, Roose: what possible shock value would they hold to the loyalists? Besides, it’s been months since any of them died: they should be unrecognizable by now.

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    44. No hype – No speculation… Just looking forward to what is certainly going to be an EPIC episode 🙂

      The Pisser (downside) is that although it is past 9pm here, I will have to wait until 2am (UK time) to watch it. Such is life!

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    45. TheRick01,

      I didn’t explain that very well did I? 🙂 I mean the last Stark anyone is aware of being alive. I have no doubt Bran will make it south of the wall and Arya will return from Braavos, but in the meantime, she’ll be the last one everyone is aware of (if Rickon dies).

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    46. Kick some Bolton ass today, Jon Snow!!!

      I hope the fighting is mind blowing and that the music is perfectly epic. I can’t wait to hear what Ramin Djawadi has in store for us tonight. I would give my left toe if we could hear “Jon’s Honor” play while he heroically rides his horse into battle. For those that aren’t familiar with that theme:

      https://youtu.be/SZrDEUldGr0?t=164

      GO #TEAMSTARK!!

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    47. Jack Bauer 24: I think it is safe to say Brienne is definitely not on a cross.

      I agree, they should not be. Given that Brienne is a main character (a lesser one, but a main one nonetheless), they should have shown her being taken by someone first. Of course, in principle, I suppose that could happen early in the episode. But my thought is that Brienne is going to ride for the Vale troops: she is pragmatic enough realize that Sansa needs someone!

      Alternatively, perhaps she’ll meet up with the Brotherhood: they know that the real fight is to the North, and forcing her and the Hound to make peace would fit the story very well.

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    48. Nominoe: Since it is Game of Thrones, the Bastard and the traitorous wive will kill our beloved Lord Ramsey Bolton.

      And that will happen shortly after the loss of his beloved father, stepmother and newborn half-brother.

      Geez, why can’t Ramsay ever get a break.

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    49. You guys have me really worried for Edd now.

      How many crosses were there again? I’m getting nervous about who’s on them. Would Osha be important enough to be on a cross? Though a lot of time has probably past since Ramsay murdered her; probably too long to keep her body from decomposing. You guys have me thinking they’re Night’s Watchmen now; that they stormed Castle Black after Jon and co left and overpowered the crows. Agh! I hope not! I love Edd.

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    50. In Terms of a period from our real World History, I have a feeling this is going to play out like The Battle of Bosworth Field.. The final major battle from the Wars of the Roses.

      Henry Tudor’s out-numbered force met Richard 111’s superior army and just when things were going to hell for Henry, a undecided army entered the fray and turned the tide against King Richard. :o)

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    51. Can’t wait to see the episode and at the same time I am anxious to see how it will go because at this point my expectations are so high. But I think in any way the last of the Epic 9s will deliver!

      I want to see long awaited, well deserved revenge and justice for characters that we loved and cared. Tywin died by the hands of his own son as well as Roose, but Ramsey is still alive and this time I hope Jon and Sansa will do the justice themselves, because it is so personal, it’s their family, it’s their home. And I don’t even want to think what will be the sacrifice for their victory (Please, don’t let Ghost die!)

      The North Remembers ! HYPEEEEEEEE

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    52. Wimsey,

      When Bran passes the Wall we need some known character and not bunch of extras. We shall know soon but maybe Lord Glover could be one. He said to Jon he could be skinned for just talking to him and it would send a message to Northerners with Jon.

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    53. Wimsey,

      but there does seem to be a “no good deed goes unpunished” anti-karma!

      Yeah I’ve noticed that too

      Its going to be 120 degrees here. Little worried about all the hype after last week. No use trying to walk off steam or even go to the mall. Gonna do what I can to stay cool and calm inside……

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    54. John the normal guy:
      I have a fear that

      could be a startling choice to have on the Bolton crosses.

      Well, perhaps the battle scenes will start with those bodies already burning on the crosses and we won’t find out who they are!

      I will piss myself laughing if that happens 😮

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    55. Che: Agh! I hope not! I love Edd.

      Well, for what it is worth, I hope not, too! My concern is that, from a cold, critical perspective, it would fit the story, plot and themes well. And I will be somewhat disappointed in MB&W’s storytelling if Jon’s inability to respond to the Pink Letter resulted in no reprisals against the Watch.

      Geralt of Rivia: When Bran passes the Wall we need some known character and not bunch of extras.

      Neither the story nor the plot requires Bran to encounter any characters at the Wall. What it needs is for Bran to encounter some of the other Big Six characters south of the Wall. But if Benjen is to accompany Bran, then in many ways it will make more sense if they cross after the Walkers have done so.

      Geralt of Rivia: We shall know soon but maybe Lord Glover could be one.

      That seems implausible: after only one viewing, the audience would not remember and/or recognize him.

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    56. Chuck,

      I’m making lamb (bloody) and new potatoes with a strong red wine. Next week I’ll be too hyped to make anything but a bag of Oreos.

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    57. Jinx47,

      I thought it was due to the Bolton forces advancing with their shields locked together? That’s how the preview made it look anyway, so it could’ve just been scenes spliced together I guess. Regardless, #SevenBlessingsForTormund

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    58. weirwoodtreehugger:
      I’m getting anxious for Rickon and Tormund in particular.

      Really hoping Ramsay finally gets it.It does seem like a Thunderdome situation and they can’t kill off Jon again.That would make no sense.Here’s hoping that graphic violence warning is partially there because Ramsay dies painfully.I’m still nervous that he won’t even though narratively he needs to go so the North can finally focus on the White Walker/Wight apocalypse.

      Gah!I keep telling myself that I won’t drink during GoT so that I’m not a mess on Monday, but this show drives me too it ?

      The flayed and burning men alone would be worthy of a graphic violence rating.

      We should be truly worried for Rickon, but he’ll go out in a blaze of glory. Art warned us in an interview that we should be paying very close attention during his scenes. I’ll put the rest of what he said under spoiler tags.

      He used the word “feral” twice and wild once, so I am hoping that Ramsay makes him mad and that he wargs into Ramsay’s beloved hounds to have a go at Ramsay.

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    59. Wimsey,

      They weren’t going to have Edd and the whole Night’s Watch murdered offscreen.

      I still think the crosses are no one significant – it was never said that they were significant characters, right?

      i think it’s an impactful image but it’s not someone critical or really important

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    60. Nadia,

      The fact that he flays people is considered barbaric even by the standards of Westeros. If he is defeated I would not be surprised to see the houses under his rule swear allegiance to House Stark again in a heartbeat. Who wants a tyrant in charge?

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    61. ? Where is our Lord too fat to sit a horse?

      Everyone keeps talking about the vale arriving but I’m more keen to see our lord of the Frey pies. Now that would be a great end to the battle.

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    62. Halfman:
      Black Raven,

      Me too but I’ll never stay awake, so I’ll just get up at 6am to watch….and not look online before I do lol

      Yes, that’s the problem? If I wait until 9pm tomorrow (UK time) to watch it, the temptation to take a peek on this website later will be just too great and why I’ve gotten into the habit of watching the ‘simcast’ to avoid any spoilers 😉

      For viewers further east in Europe it just gets crazy if they wish to watch the ‘simcast’. Probably best to go to bed (as you do) and to set their alarms clocks to wake them up just before its starts! Such is life I guess for us GoT fanatics hehe 😀

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    63. Nadia,

      I agree with you. I think exhibiting corpses would be more shocking than burning ones which you can no longer identify after two minutes if burning.

      As for Rickon, I still hope against hope that he will be OK. And that the Umbers might eventually side with Jon as soon as the battle starts… Well, all right : why should they have brought Rickon to the most sadistic guy on earth, then ? Being far too optimistic, here, I’m afraid.

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    64. FRAN,

      Exactly. For me the fact that the corpses are burning, no one is going to be able to tell who they are anyway. I think it’s the intimidation/fear aspect of it , of what happens when Ramsay wins. Not such hugely important character (to them or us) that’s up there.

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    65. Ginevra: Fuck!Dolorous is the word for the day today on m-w.com.

      Wow! Thanks to you I finally know the meaning of that word now. ^^ I’m not an English native speaker and always assumed it was a kind of an ironic nickname and meant something like “happy/chipper/delighted” in a humorous contrast to Edd’s demeanor. I would never have guessed it is just a plain description of him.

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    66. I’ll be watching after game 7. Hopefully the Warriors win and I’m not in a bad mood. I think the episode will look great. I’m keeping my fingers crossed for Davos and Mel. I don’t want to lose them yet.

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    67. Black Raven,

      If I waited til 9pm tomorrow I would definitely have read everything. I have no will power, so it’s an early rise. Unless I have an attack of insomnia and wake up at 2am.

      On the other hand will we sleep at all? ?

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    68. I’ve just realised why Sansa lied to Jon and how she is playing LF and maneuvering Jon into taking on more responsibility than he would want. I won’t post because my spoiler tags never work but it is smart/strategic.

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    69. You guys might appreciate my video on making a 3d map of Westeros with inlaid sigils. It will at least keep you busy for 7 minutes while you wait for the episode. I’ve been finishing up the project and video over the last few days just to keep from going crazy with the waiting. If you can survive the Red Wedding you can survive my rendition of the opening theme

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    70. Hmm am I the only one who things that the battle of the bastards(while huge itself) is just a smoke screen for Dany’s fight to surprise us with how epic it will be? Its not in the previews at all, yet a spoiler interview says it takes up 1/3rd the episode. Possibly it will be like Hardhome how it was just so amazing out of nowhere.

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    71. Simon,

      I would love to see Manderley this episode, but I think he would have needed to be introduced before the battle for it to happen. I’ll be thrilled if I’m wrong though!

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    72. Wimsey:
      Miss Stark,

      Oh, sorry: I’ve long suspected that it is going to be Edd and other NW members.Ramsay did promise retribution if his bride was not returned.

      You know, I’m a huge Edd fan (thus the name) . And I think I might like that fate for him better than him being the one in charge at the Wall if/when it falls. That would break my heart.

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    73. Miss Stark,

      I don’t think they’ll arrive however they are the only large house mentioned for the last 4 eps that haven’t yet appeared. Why name them if you aren’t going to use them? As they are a fan favorite it might pay to leave them to last, unless of course they are trolling us.

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    74. Simon,

      I don’t think so next week, next week for sure tho. Im guessing Cersei loses her trial, something happens to Tommen who feels bad for her, and in the end Jamie Kills her to prevent a Mad Queen senario

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    75. Wimsey:
      Knight of the Walkers,

      I never spell it the same way twice in a row, myself.Thus, much like a broken clock, I am sometimes correct.

      ?

      And you also spell Dany wrong – but wih extreme consistency! So, I guess in some cases a broken clock is really just broken! 😉

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    76. HereBeDragons:
      In Terms of a period from our real World History, I have a feeling this is going to play out like The Battle of Bosworth Field.. The final major battle from the Wars of the Roses.

      Henry Tudor’s out-numbered force met Richard 111’s superior army and just when thingswere going to hell for Henry, a undecided army entered the fray and turned the tide against King Richard. :o)

      That’s a really good call. We already know that GRRM used the War of the Roses as inspiration for the War of Five Kings.

      And from the casting announcements

      there was a description of a northern lord who changes sides mid-battle and makes a dramatic speech about it

      Plus the Vale army is in the mix.

      The going to hell stuff doesn’t do anything to ease my fears about Tormund though! I do think Ramsay will be defeated and killed, but not without a heavy toll.

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    77. HereBeDragons: In Terms of a period from our real World History, I have a feeling this is going to play out like The Battle of Bosworth Field.. The final major battle from the Wars of the Roses.Henry Tudor’s out-numbered force met Richard 111’s superior army and just when things were going to hell for Henry, a undecided army entered the fray and turned the tide against King Richard. :o)

      I think you may be quite correct with that assessment.

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    78. Simon: Simon

      Tyron Pimpslap:
      I’ll be watching after game 7. Hopefully the Warriors win and I’m not in a bad mood. I think the episode will look great. I’m keeping my fingers crossed for Davos and Mel. I don’t want to lose them yet.

      Simon:
      Miss Stark,

      Mores the waist. The Mandeleys would provide a nice counter point to little fingers forces and help tip the negotiations in the norths favor.

      I wouldn’t be surprised if Arya’s arrival back in Westeros has her sailing into White Harbor…

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    79. Nadia,

      Yeah, a lot was made of who was on the burning crosses but since they’re clearly pre-battle, they’re probably just there to intimidate the opposition. There was some speculation it might be Osha but why would Jon/Sansa care about her since they don’t even know she exists? Unless Ramsay did something stupid like kill Rickon before hand.

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    80. We can’t lose both Davos and tormund, can we?

      I’m sorry you guy, if I had to pick , I would keep tormund a little longer 🙁 it hurts to even say that

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    81. Halfman,

      Ok, fine on that – Thank god I’m retired 🙂

      Just got a dinner call (crazy Spanish eating hours!) so will come back later and briefly give my thoughts on E09 before hitting the sack!

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    82. Simon: I’ve just realised why Sansa lied to Jon and how she is playing LF and maneuvering Jon into taking on more responsibility than he would want.

      Unless you got it from inside information about the show (scripts, set reports), then it’s speculation, not a spoiler. So, tell us: what is your conjecture about why Sansa lied? Personally, I think that she just does not want them to know that she turned away a large army out of anger and spite.

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    83. Dolorous Methuselah: And I think I might like that fate for him better than him being the one in charge at the Wall if/when it falls. That would break my heart.

      Well, if this conjecture is correct, then he’ll be the last Commander! And it would add an ironic twist to Jon’s farewell: Edd won’t let it fall down himself, but he won’t be able to stop it from falling (literally and/or figuratively) once he and the other brothers are dead.

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    84. Ya’ll, I got a new J-O-B so I’ve been actually being busy/productive the last couple days but you know I’m here for this.

      Never has there been more hype or more unknown factors. I’m going to a friend’s house (I had to buy her a bottle of wine to convince her to watch the pilot and she’s become obsessed) to watch it on their 60″ with surround sound.

      Dee, you doing okay? Got a paper bag nearby for hyperventilation? 😉

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    85. Dee Stark:
      We can’t lose both Davos and tormund, can we?

      I’m sorry you guy, if I had to pick , I would keep tormund a little longer it hurts to even say that

      No, I’m with you. I don’t want to lose either, but Tormund for me would be a bigger loss. He’s been such a big piece for what Jon has gone through.

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    86. Anyone have a “big fight” feeling in the air surrounding them? Like this could be the biggest thing in television history and set the bar for decades to come?

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    87. HereBeDragons,

      But wouldn’t that be a very arbitrary turn of events? Any “deciding” army should be there because of the actions of one or more of the main characters. An army just turning up and siding with *flips coin* the Starks! would be pretty much Deus ex Machina plotting. That’s fine for reality: but it’s not OK for a story.

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    88. grown man, followed a link, ended up listening to the House Stark theme on Youtube, weeping like a baby. HOW DOES THIS HAPPEN!? 😛

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    89. Ginevra,

      That’s interesting. I missed that interview with Art. I’ve been itching to see some warging from a Stark not named Bran, so I hope you’re right!
      Violet Koneko,

      You could be right about that. It is highly suspicious that there has been no promotion of the Meereen storyline in this episode at all. We haven’t seen the dragons do anything cool in awhile and Meereen needs to be wrapped up soon so Dany and Tyrion can start heading back to Westoros. So hopefully they do wrap it up soon and in a really cool way. On last week’s episode, Dany did have that not fucking around and about to burn shit look on her face.

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    90. Dee Stark:
      We can’t lose both Davos and tormund, can we?

      I’m sorry you guy, if I had to pick , I would keep tormund a little longer ? it hurts to even say that

      No, no, neither of them. ? Jon needs them both.

      Oh hell, I don’t like this episode already! Too stressful lol

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    91. ”Fletcher” character’s role:
      (We still waiting for him. Probably until ep. 9)

      “Fletcher”: He is a fat nobleman in his 60’s. He has distinctive rugged features, a Northern accent, and a distinguished air. Our source says he has a stirring speech during which he unexpectedly shifts political allegiances.

      The actor is only expected to shoot for one day- the same day as the above role, on December 16th, in Northern Ireland.

      Our speculation: A fat nobleman shifting alliances? If this isn’t Wyman Manderly, the Game of Thrones fandom is being trolled hard with this character. With only one day of filming, clearly the show isn’t doing the whole White Harbor plot, but I think we guessed that anyway. Perhaps this is a meeting of Northern Lords, and this is a more streamlined version of the Wyman character who made such an impression with his speech in A Dance with Dragons.

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    92. weirwoodtreehugger:
      Ginevra,

      That’s interesting.I missed that interview with Art.I’ve been itching to see some warging from a Stark not named Bran, so I hope you’re right!
      Violet Koneko,

      You could be right about that.It is highly suspicious that there has been no promotion of the Meereen storyline in this episode at all.We haven’t seen the dragons do anything cool in awhile and Meereen needs to be wrapped up soon so Dany and Tyrion can start heading back to Westoros.So hopefully they do wrap it up soon and in a really cool way.On last week’s episode, Dany did have that not fucking around and about to burn shit look on her face.

      I think next week will have a big Meereen dragon scene. Tonight will be Greyjoys arriving and the finale all 3 dragons on screen for the first time since Season 4. Can’t wait to see Theon/Yara reaction to the dragons.

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    93. Evening fellow Thrones fanatics!

      Episode 9 already … I’m not ready!

      Seven blessings from the old Gods and the new to team Stark!!

      I’m worried about the casualties … I’m mostly worried about Littlefinger! That slimey cocksucker (sorry – I’m re-watching Deadwood!!) I think he is going to do something right out of the Wars of the Roses – that is to sit on the sidelines and then just join the winning side …

      Aaarghhh …. I need more wine!!

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    94. Dee Stark,

      We can’t lose either of them-we need them both.

      After all these years–Team Stark deserves a win.

      But yeah I’m pretty sure Rickon and Wun Wun are gonna die.
      And I’m still worried about Edd.

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    95. Wimsey,

      Possibility for the Manderly forces to turn up if it’s prefigured in the first part of the episode, as Lord Manderly has been mentioned in the show as somebody Jon and Sansa sent ravens to. Also, he’s been mentioned by Ramsey as apparently on his (Ramsey’s) side, so there is a possibility of a change of sides there.
      Other forces, not possible here I think.
      (Except that Vale army..)

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    96. Why are people worried about Edd? There will need to be people at the wall when the winds of winter sail in in episode 10

      ???????????????

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    97. Slightly OT:

      Has anyone seen History channel’s new series Barbarians Rising? It’s a docudrama about the barbarian tribes that fought Rome that featured Clive Russel & Ian McEIhinney as barbarian chieftains in the first episode. Ian Beattie is in the second & third episodes as Roman commander Varus. The drama part is quite good but as expected the actual history is fudged some for the sake of drama. It’s great to see the actors acting in similar roles though; Russel and McEIhinney are inspiring commanders while Beattie is still a slimy bastard!

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    98. ash:

      Its going to be 120 degrees here. Little worried about all the hype after last week.No use trying to walk off steam or even go to the mall.Gonna do what I can to stay cool and calm inside……

      only 4 more degrees to go and we hit that mark. my a/c is about to have a nervous breakdown. every store i’ve been to is out of ice. we zonie thronies know how it feels to burn on ramsey’s crosses.

      as far as the burning crosses go, i am wondering if jon and davos have sent scouts out and perhaps they are the human torches. no main characters at all but still a message to jon.

      a bit off topic here. i remember at the beginning of the season reading an interview from art parkinson (rickon) telling us what his character would be like this season and to keep an eye out for the details.
      i am hoping against hope he does not bite the big one this episode. along for all the obvious reasons, it would have his interview make no sense what-so-ever. he hasn’t even spoken a word, yet. what details are there to look for? other than him getting a bag pulled off his head and the speculation that maybe shaggy dog’s head wasn’t as big as it should have been.
      i am hoping to see him alive next episode and the episode after. yeah, i know. this is game of thrones. hope for nothing and you won’t be disappointed, dare to hope for something and get shattered.

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    99. My guess on the casualties in this episode:

      Rickon
      Tormund
      SmallJohn Umber
      Lord Karstark
      Wun Wun

      My greatest fear is that we lose the final team Dragonstone members too. If(speculation), Littlefinger becomes part of the winning team and sides with the Starks, where would that leave Davos? That is why I fear for the Onion Knight.

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    100. I think Rickon will be killed by Ramsey in view of Jon and Sansa, Ramsey loves drama. And despite his rabid desire to get back to Cersei I am not discounting Jaime and the Lannister army showing up. It was after all, one of the Bolton men who chopped off his hand and he did swear an oath to deliver the Stark girls to their home.

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    101. Wimsey,

      Ooor ..I don’t know about that Wimsey.

      I’ve lost a bit of faith in how the show-runners set-up and resolve stories after Dorne, Kingsmoot and Areyastabstark.

      I think fans and casual show watchers alike, would pretty much jump for joy if, suddenly from behind or to the side of the Bolton forces, an unknown army entered the battle and shouted out “The North Remembers…”
      (if it’s a Fatman on a Clydesdale, you’d have all the fanatics telling their show-mates “O… Let me tell ya who this is…”)

      I’m still thinking it’s the Vale army that turns up, most likely at that moment Tormund is surrounded by Bolton spears!
      (I sincerely hope it’s Not the Umbers who change sides ;( )

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    102. Predictions:
      Rickon dies early ->no value to Ramsay other than to trip Jon up

      The Vale does not act with the Stark forces->Littlefinger betray a Stark (gasp, heaven’s no!)

      Sansa also viciously killed by Ramsay or on his behalf (also no value to him now)

      Stark forces are routed, Jon heads north to the Wall & beyond

      The Brotherhood who has been missing for how many seasons and just now showed up? 3? Yeah, they get a new leader. In Blackfish’s words last week, “She’s just like her mother.” In addition the number of separate story arcs in GoT has decreased as of late (no data, but there’s been consolidation, numerous deaths). Adding Lady Junior Stoneheart in now works much better than when Stannis was alive, Dorne was getting time, Tyrion wasn’t with Dany, etc. Plus Sandor and Sansa have a connection.

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    103. Hey guys I’m on a cruise so sadly can’t watch tonight’s episode. However I am not spoofed to spoilers, being the got fan that I am ill still watch Tbotb twice when I get home. What’s the countdown till the show starts? Anyone willing to keep me updated? Thanks!

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    104. Baah, traveling this week and can’t watch until next Sunday, a little before E10. And there’s no way to avoid spoilers for a whole week…grrr

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    105. AirPurdue:
      Predictions:
      Rickon dies early->no value to Ramsay other than to trip Jon up

      The Vale does not act with the Stark forces->Littlefinger betray a Stark (gasp, heaven’s no!)

      Sansa also viciously killed by Ramsay or on his behalf (also no value to him now)

      Stark forces are routed, Jon heads north to the Wall & beyond

      The Brotherhood whose been missing for how many seasons and just now showed up?3?Yeah, they get a new leader.In Blackfish’s words last week, “She’s just like her mother.”In addition the number of separate story arcs in GoT has decreased as of late (no data, but there’s been consolidation, numerous deaths).Adding Lady Junior Stoneheart in now works much better than when Stannis was alive, Dorne was getting time, Tyrion wasn’t with Dany, etc.Plus Sandor and Sansa have a connection.

      Sansa is 100% safe. In fact, I think she is the safest person on the show besides Dany.

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    106. Kasi:
      Hey guys I’m on a cruise so sadly can’t watch tonight’s episode. However I am not spoofed to spoilers, being the got fan that I am ill still watch Tbotb twice when I get home. What’s the countdown till the show starts? Anyone willing to keep me updated? Thanks!

      2 hours 35 minutes left to go, roughly.

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    107. Ice Baby:
      Slightly OT:

      Has anyone seen History channel’s new series Barbarians Rising? It’s a docudrama about the barbarian tribes that fought Rome that featured Clive Russel & Ian McEIhinney as barbarian chieftains in the first episode. Ian Beattie is in the second & third episodes as Roman commander Varus.The drama part is quite good but as expected the actual history is fudged some for the sake of drama. It’s great to see the actors acting in similar roles though; Russel and McEIhinney are inspiring commanders while Beattie is still a slimy bastard!

      I haven’t yet, but the next episode is going to be about Boudica and I do want to see that. There really needs to be a big budget feature film about Boudica sometime. *peers at my avatar* Actually, Birgitte Hjort Sorensen would kick so much ass in that role. Make it happen, Hollywood!

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    108. Jaynee D.,

      The fact he said that, and we haven’t seen him any more so far this season makes me believe even more in the GNC. Maybe the detail was the wolf head…

      I know, I know. It’s unlikely, but I can’t help myself.

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    109. Wimsey,

      They have mentioned the Mandeleys again and again. Karstark’s, Umber’s and Mandeley’s. If they are there already on one side and switch I would not be surprised. Just two weeks ago Sansa mentions the Ravens sent to them and other houses. Not getting a response does not however mean a choice hasn’t been made. If they hadn’t mentioned them yes machine of the gods but a part has clearly been assigned and foreshadowed. What D&D are doing is keeping the book crowd guessing. If we had seen our lord to fat we would know what was going to happen. It will not however be a complete game changer when it does eventuate. When the Vale rock up it does however put Sansa and Jon in a better position to make their claim and for Sansa to put her strategy in place – giving LF what he wants while denying him at the same time.

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    110. Chuck,

      Most likely he’s with the Masters of Astapor and Volantis in the ships or leading a gladiatorial force on the gates of Meereen.

      Recognisable Dragon Fodder! 🙂

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    111. While I think TeamStark will ultimately win, I think it will come at a cost. I can see Rickon being one of the first casualties. The Freys may bluff with Edmure’s life but Ramsay will not bluff with Rickon’s. Other than Sansa and Theon, Ramsay doesn’t keep people as hostages. He kills them. And he no longer has Roose around to moderate his behavior.

      WunWun is a big worry for me given the CGI cost. The White Walkers and the dragons cost a lot of money. And as The Door showed with the CotF, D&D are willing to kill off entire species of being.

      Although I think Jon himself is safe, those surrounding him are not. I think we lose Tormund and/or Davos. Melisandre should be fine for now, given that she still has to see Arya again per their season 3 meeting. I have been worried about Tormund ever since the re-introduction of the Hardhome guy during Jon’s recruitment drive. As long as he remained the only recognizable wildling, he was safe. I want him to be, but now I am unsure. Davos I have concerns about given Liam Cunningham’s prominence in pre-season press. That is usually a signal that the character has a good chance of dying.

      On TeamBolton, I think Ramsay dies either tonight or next week. They need to wrap up this plotline and gear up for next season. Ramsay is not long-term. I think Umber and/or Karstark will be for the chop tonight.

      As for Meereen, I guess if there is a named character I am worried for it is Daario. I am not sure where I see him fitting in going forward. Daenerys has other commanders, and she has shown him just how powerful she truly is – can he handle that? I just don’t see her turning up in Westeros with Daario still in tow. I really, really hope I am wrong.

      On the other side, I think

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    112. I just rewatched Hardhome for maximum hype.

      THAT MUSIC! Still sends chills down my spine when that ticking clock type music first starts.

      GET HYPE

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    113. Nadia:
      I just rewatched Hardhome for maximum hype.

      THAT MUSIC! Still sends chills down my spine when that ticking clock type music first starts.

      GET HYPE

      Good thing I’m not the only one! That tickink clock part always sends me the shivers

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    114. Ginevra,

      re your spoiler – ooooo, I’d love that!

      HereBeDragons,

      In Terms of a period from our real World History, I have a feeling this is going to play out like The Battle of Bosworth Field.. The final major battle from the Wars of the Roses.Henry Tudor’s out-numbered force met Richard 111’s superior army and just when things were going to hell for Henry, a undecided army entered the fray and turned the tide against King Richard. :o)

      yeah, thats always been one of those ‘what if’ scenarios that I’ve taken time thinking about.

      Tyron Pimpslap,

      Yeah, My DH will be watching it and giving me the updates. Its times like this that having a split screen tv would come in handy.

      Leuf,

      Wow, impressive!

      Lyanna_Targaryen,

      I’m going to a friend’s house (I had to buy her a bottle of wine to convince her to watch the pilot and she’s become obsessed) to watch it on their 60″ with surround sound

      Excellent. Stay cool! ( thinking about a phx valley view night next week. Up for it?)

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    115. The episode already has a 10/10 rating on IMDb based on 1300 votes, even though those who voted haven’t watched it yet. This fandom is crazy lol

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    116. Halfman: No, no, neither of them. Jon needs them both.

      Oh hell, I don’t like this episode already! Too stressful lol

      Yeah, he can’t lose Davos and Tormund yet. He desperately needs them for the real war. I refuse to believe that either of them will be sacrificed at the altar of Ramsay fucking Bolton. I honestly feel, that if either of them dies, it would gut me as much as Ned Stark’s death. Sigh.

      2 hours to go!!! Eeeeee!!!

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    117. I think the

      Fletcher character will show up in episode 10. After the battle is won, multiple northern forces will show up at Winterfell with mixed feelings about how to react to Jon and company. Fletcher will give a speech similar to GreatJon’s “King in the North” scene and change the opinions of those in attendance.

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    118. I am a tiny bit bummed, that tonights episode wont be Battle of the Bastards alone. :/ So far I was sure that would be the case. But the actor that plays Yezzan(?) (Enzo Cilenti) tweeted that he’s on tonights episode.

      Edit: Someone else posted it already.

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    119. FRAN,

      They gave Rickon to the guy that liked little boys. And Osha and shaggydog to Ramsey. I hope I’m wrong because I hate to think hes been getting molested while imprisoned to him. (I don’t remember the characters name sorry)

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    120. SICK!

      https://instagram.com/p/BG2jxh-i4Fw/

      Love him!!!!

      “khivjuA few hours left before the Battle Of The Bastards! This pic is from one of the first day of B.O.B rehearsals. Took us over 4 weeks to finish just “one” of this episodes sequences and then we had 86 hours of photage! Extremely much work has been put inn to make this ep happen – and it’s all for you! Our eminent director Miguel Sapochnik, who also directed HARDHOME, has done an AMAZING job!
      Get ready! Hope you LOVE IT!
      #miguelsapochnik #kristoferhivju #tormundgiantsbane #tormund #gameofthrones”

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    121. ash,
      Blimey! I didn’t realise you lived on the surface of the sun! 😉

      I HATE battles and fighting and would normally just fast forward straight through them. Usually all I care about is who’s fighting, why and the outcome and the actual fighting is of no interest to me, but I am soooooo hyped for this – I am gonna watch every second. Have taken tomorrow and next monday off work so I can watch them live and join in the fun on here as it happens. Two hours to go and I’m already super nervous: aaaahhhh what’s going to happen????? THIS is why I like detailed spoilers, I need to prepare myself in advance for any emotional battering that’s coming. We’ve had some great warm, fuzzy, feel good moments for the Northern story in the early part of the series which is not something GoT usually gives us so I’m preparing to have my heart ripped out of my chest, smashed into a million pieces and jumped on for good measure by D&D, just in case. That way anything less traumatic feels like a win!

      I need Ramsay to lose badly obviously but to see that he has, so it has plenty of time to sink in before his (hopefully horrible) well deserved demise.

      Never mind the Vale army or anyone else, if it’s going really badly I am going to climb into the tv and smash the Bolton forces myself! ? TEAM KICKASS FOR THE WIN!!!! *must calm down; deeeeeep breaths deeeeep breaths*

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    122. Littlefinger doesn’t have enough control over the Vale to simply take power in the North. Royce was a friend of Ned and wanted to help Robb from the start, so he won’t just go along with usurping power from the Stark kids. SweetRobin sees Sansa as a replacement for his mother, and he’ll do whatever she wants him to do. The only way LF could take control of the North is if Sansa lets him. And, I really hope they don’t have her character continue being under his boot like that.

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    123. Tormond lives because he’s the only wildling we care about. He won’t die until they’re no longer needed. Davos on the other hand… I think is probably going to have a curtain cal this week. ????

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    124. Lyanna_Targaryen,
      Congrats on the job 😀 Mmmm paper bag good idea…..I’m currently doing this, although the yay is more of a waaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh and there’s still nearly two hours to go! ? Note to self: CALM DOWN WOMAN!

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    125. The terms of surrender are accepted by dany
      And they are rejected by jon snow
      I guess this is what it means

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    126. Watching the US open golf tournament. After one of the players hit his tee shot someone in the crowd yelled “KING IN THE NORTH”!!!

      GoT is everywhere! I fookin love it!

      HYPE!!

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    127. House Stackhouse,
      I though Smalljon just mean the ‘he likes little boys’ comment as a general insult rather than a statement of fact. Karstark does immediately stand up in a how-dare-you-accuse-me-of-that kind of way when SJ says it.

      Dee Stark,
      86 hours – episode’s gonna be a tad longer than we thought then! Sorry I’m nervous, I gabble when I’m nervous and the quality of my ‘jokes’ is even lamer than usual! 🙁

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    128. I kind of don’t want to watch tonight’s episode, I feel like something really bad is going to go down, like I might have to yell at my tv…. again

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    129. The weather has been a bit nutty lately. We’ve had a cold spring that led right into a mid summer like heatwave. I don’t recall ever having so many 90 degree days in early-mid June.

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    130. Rewatching last weeks episode to build the #hype and it occurs to me that tonight may be the last time we see the Bolton banners at Winterfel in the intro… That will be nice lol

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    131. I don’t think this much hype is healthy.
      My heart is already racing just thinking about watching the episode tomorrow morning.

      It’ll be pretty surprising if I get any quality sleep tonight.

      Man, this show has really fucked some of us up.

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    132. I have been hyped! Super big time for this episode! I regretfully think Rickon will not last because Ramsay wants to ‘play’. Could he possibly be one of the people burning on the crosses in the battlefield? I have a feeling this is gonna be one of the best/epic episodes of in GoT history.

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    133. Also right in Hardhome like other people here!

      I would like to send greetings to all the european people here, who had already their After-Midnight-GoT-Stay Awake-Coffee like me!

      I think also Rickon is dead as GRRM based his novels on the Wars of the Roses, so I think Rickon is based on the Princes in the Tower and they are as we know dead.

      What do you think about Shae possibily no more appearing?

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    134. So excited for tonight! ! I hope team Jon and Sansa prevail. I am a fan of both and want to see V for team Stark.
      Also tired of the negatively in regarding Sansa. Haters gonna hate!

      Thanks– just wanted to get that off my chest.

      So stoked!!!

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    135. I still think there will be no meereen in this episode. If it was it would have been in the episode. Meereeen battle only need to be around 5 minutes and can be handled in the final.

      We trust a paper that had multiple mistakes when it came to game of thrones.

      Only 2 hours waiting and we know the truth

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    136. Very excited for the episode tonight!!

      Just hoping that, this probably being the most “hyped” episode of all time, people don’t get overly critical after watching it

      Love live the Stark House!!

      Winter is Coming!

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    137. Thronedorne:
      Rewatching last weeks episode to build the #hype and it occurs to me that tonight may be the last time we see the Bolton banners at Winterfel in the intro… That will be nice lol

      Gods, I hope so! When the flayed man was stamped over Winterfell a few seasons ago, that was brutal. I need to see the direwolf again. Something I noticed this season is that the direwolf sigil is still in the credits when the camera pans over WF. It’s laying on the ground, broken in half. It was there in past seasons, I just never noticed. Way to twist the knife, GOT.

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    138. Kevin,

      Hi Kevin,

      I think we will see Meereen tonight–but only for 15 minutes or so…..here’s hoping! I really want all of this to be at Winterfell. So excited!

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    139. We still haven’t seen the scene where the window gets blown in in the great pyramid from the trailer.

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    140. The sad thing is that they think Littlefinger showing up and saving the day (ugh, could there be anything more odious than Littlefinger being Gandalf to Jon and Sansa’s Theoden / Aragorn) will be a surprise. The prospect of this happening really, really worries me.

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    141. Dorian,

      Who says that LF will save Sansa? She threatened to kill him when they last met.

      “I told you not to trust me”

      Did we forget that line, somehow? This is ALL his fault.

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    142. The more I read all these “but so-and-so can’t die because…story…plot armor”, the more I hope GRRM & D & D whack a Stark or Targ not named Rickon.

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    143. Leuf:
      You guys might appreciate my video on making a 3d map of Westeros with inlaid sigils.It will at least keep you busy for 7 minutes while you wait for the episode.I’ve been finishing up the project and video over the last few days just to keep from going crazy with the waiting.If you can survive the Red Wedding you can survive my rendition of the opening theme

      That’s amazing. I can barely draw a stick figure.

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    144. House Stackhouse,
      Smalljon was very entertaining. In 10 years time he and Lyanna Mormont could have made an amazing power couple. But he picked the dark side and is going down, although I wouldn’t mind if he gets a few more telling-it-as-he-sees-it observations in first 😀

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    145. Blanche Holstein:
      Chad Brick,

      ***giggle***

      Now that is just plain mean.?

      First ep I haven’t a clue what is afoot.

      I just want to see the Internet actually explode!

      That being said, a surprise death of a major character would sure breath some fire into things. Ned’s death was long ago, and another round would put some doubt back in place.

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    146. Just in case the rumors are true and there is a scene tonight during which Yara and Daenerys make out, I’d just like to go on record as having already written several hundred pages of fan-fic about that very thing.

      Huh, did I just say that out loud? 😉

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    147. Lulu’s Mum! This is a screenshot of the Waif when she’s about to kill Lady Crane and before she turns back into the Waif. Is this the boy in blue that you tracked for so long? The Olyvar doppelganger?

      https://www.dropbox.com/s/hcm0i3vz1hrryf0/TheWaifsPenultimateFace.png?dl=0

      Also, to everyone: Does anyone have a good resource for the sigils of the Northern houses?

      Stark: Direwolf
      Bolton: Flayed Man
      Karstark: Silver Sun
      Umber: Chained Giant (breaking free)
      Mormont: Bear Rampant
      Glover: Fist
      Manderly: Merman with Trident
      Cerwyn: Battle Axe
      Mazin: Blue and white chequy with gold plates (like checkers)
      Hornwood: Moose
      Arryn: Falcon and crescent moon

      I believe these are all the ones mentioned in the show that could likely show. I don’t think the Tullys (fish) will. It would be fantastic if a black gator (black lizard-lion on a grey-green field) showed up for House Reed, but that’s just me fantasizing. Any others?

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    148. There must always be a Stark in Winterfell. After tonight, if the Old Gods will it, there will be!

      I’m raising a tumbler of scotch in honor of all of the loyal Northern soldiers and Free Folk who will inevitably fall tonight, hopefully in victory. Then I’m pouring another one for myself, because I’m going to need it. The emotional highs and lows of this episode are going to be intense.

      See you all on the other side, folks! When we reconvene, may the Direwolf fly over Winterfell once again!

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    149. Markus Stark,

      I agree it fucks with us hell I woke up after only 3 1/2 hours sleep (day sleeper) and for the life of me have not been able to get a little nap this evening cause I’m too hyped now.

      If I were you I’d just stay on the Wall here and get the rundown after it airs so you can sleep more content. I know spoilers zap some fun out of it but in this case you will still get enjoyment I believe.

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    150. I am sooooo ready………….! Who will it be that helps Jon and Company?

      Will the Umbers turn on Ramsey?

      Will the Knights of the Vale show up for support?

      I’ve always thought Jamie might help out…..with this battle….but, if not, maybe to face the White Walkers. What does everyone thing?

      #TeamJon

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    151. Dire wolves. I want to see a pack of dire wolves appear in the midst of battle and treat Ramsay like a chew toy.

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    152. Ginevra,
      Hi honey! *waving like a mad thing* Yes I think it must have been him (her?). We only got to see the side of his face in the previous episode and he seemed clean shaven, but was obviously being sneaky with the grunge-like facial hair. He was a Pearl Jam fan hundreds of years before they even existed 😉 Similar size, build and hairdo (on head) to Olyvar, who I would imagine was a dead man walking from the moment he made enemies of the Tyrells and because he knows so much about LF’s dodgy dealings. That’s why I was so surprised that there was a looky-likey noseying around. Waaaaaahhhhhh 20 minutes to go ?

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    153. I just finished watching the last episode. Knowing what I know now, I realize it really is quite excellent. And now -it starts

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    154. Enjoy the episode, everyone.
      Only 8 minutes to finish your pre-watch checklist…
      And don’t forget your deep-breathing exercises. 🙂

      See y’all on the flip-side.

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    155. THE HYPE IS REAL!!!!! I’m so excited and nervous at the same time! I want to know what happens but I don’t want any of the good people to die! UGH! Casualties can not be helped 🙁 🙁 🙁

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    156. Just sold off my cosmetics stocks. Eyeliner sales in Meereen will drop drastically in the near future.
      Enjoy!

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    157. The clock is ticking…almost there now! Can’t wait to watch it, and hoping the reaction is spectacular!

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    158. Simon,

      We totally do – but I don’t think we will. If Arya’s plot told us anything, its don’t expect anything too complicated and you won’t be disappointed.

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    159. Is hbo now down for anyone else?!? I’m gonna throw something. Not working on tv, laptop or ipad!!!! What awful timing!!!!!!

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    160. When it’s been 20 minutes and HBO Now is still down.

      HBO is giving a clinic on how not to eliminate piracy.

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    161. Why is Sansa not telling Jon about the Vale when she clearly doesn’t want him to fight without more men? Like really, is there any reason for this at all, other than the writers wanting the battle to start before the Arryn army arrives? This is all so stupid.

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    162. That argument between Jon & Sansa pissed me off. Maybe if you fucking tell him about the Vale army, he would do things differently!! Seriously, she fucking sucks right now.

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    163. Sansa whyyyy are you being the fucking worst. NOW is not the time to keep this a secret when you’re so opposed to his ideas.

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    164. May I suggest that the reason why Sansa is not telling Jon about the Vale army is because she is actually not certain they will show up ? After all, Baelish is the one who offered and she has ample reasons to doubt his word.
      So she tries to delay Jon without promising anything… That is my interpretation, at least.

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    165. I can’t fucking believe Sansa didn’t tell him. She wanted the Vale to just ride in? Sorry, but she’s the worst. There’s ZERO reason to have done what she did.

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    166. I’m about to go ape shit I’m getting an error message and then sometimes it will load with no sound on fast forward

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    167. Wow I was determined to be positive about Sansa telling Jon because of course she would, but instead she lied, cost endless lives, so the show could make her ride in like a hero?? UGHH

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    168. Called it. The most obvious non-surprise surprise ever – hey, it was done in Season 2 and Season 4 so might as well do it in Season 6 too. What a failure of imagination.

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    169. Nadia:
      Wow I was determined to be positive about Sansa telling Jon because of course she would, but instead she lied, cost endless lives, so the show could make her ride in like a hero??UGHH

      They made Jon look like a fucking incompetent fool so Sansa could look like a “boss ass bitch”. Fucking bullshit.

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    170. BunBunStark,

      Properly speaking, they made them both incompetent, just in completely different ways.

      The “winner” in this was really Littlefinger, whose plans are all going swimmingly.

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    171. aabe,

      Robb was surrounded by experienced commanders like the Blackfish and the Greatjon.

      Jon didn’t have any experienced commanders and had to plan his first open field battle by himself, while his sister withed the Vale army from him and left him with little options. He actually had a decent plan in place, considering the circumstances, but his brother dying wrecked him (as expected).

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    172. Wow I am so so so disappointed. After so much “THE BEST EPISODE EVER” and it was all so pointless. What crap pandering.

      So Jon is just brainless labor while Sansa is Joan of Arc. Ok. Sure. It all makes so much sense.

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    173. While I hate Littlefinger having a savior moment, I’m glad that those poor Vale knights had an opportunity to actually do something in the wars.

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    174. Sure Sansa go ahead and smile as you walk away from Ramsay. You got your revenge and your home back. Don’t worry about your dead brother or all the fucking lives that were lost because you never told your brother about the Vale army. JFC, I’m furious.

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    175. What an amazing episode. The best episode of the best show in television history.

      If you are complaining about this episode, find a different show to watch…..

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    176. yes, Yes, YES YES YES!!!!!!!!!!! Oh my god that was amazing!!!!!!! Haven’t caught up with comments but let me just say that this episode was all of the five Episode 9s tied up in one!!! Oh my……..

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    177. Best fucking episode ever!

      That was just perfect from start to finish.

      I might even say best hour of television ever. Who doesn’t agree?

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    178. And Jon climbed from his grave of bodies and achieved his destiny.
      Quite enjoyable.
      RiP Wun Wun!!!!
      R&V&D on the loose!!
      Grey Worm the bad ass!

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    179. Jack Bauer 24:
      Sansa blows

      So now we know what Sophie means when she says “boss ass bitch.” She means she swoops in and saves the day by running off to LF while bro-bro does all the heavy lifting and almost dying and shit.

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    180. You can tell the difference in episodes when they’re stringing the story along versus throwing everything all in. It’s the one thing that irks me about this show. Otherwise, fantastic episode! I’ll keep watching till the end.

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    181. I loved Tyrion/Dany interactions this episode. As someone who hopes A+J=T, I could view their scenes as a bit like he’s nurturing his little sister, teaching her about the game (next episode promo).

      (Things could go horrible wrong anytime, though. Can’t say with Targaryens).

      No need to worry who will get Dreadfort now. Sansa is going to pull it apart brick by brick, like Bloodraven did with Whitehalls and Ned did with Tower of Joy.

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    182. I still can’t form coherent thoughts right now (except i’m still pissed at you sansa, come on) or type without shaking, i think i’ll need a rewatch

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    183. So in the north we have Jon Snow, Davos Seaworth, Sansa Stark, Melisandra, Littlefinger, Tormund Giantsbane…. And soon to be Brienne, Podrick, & Arya.

      The pieces in the north are coming together nicely….

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    184. So Jon actually came out looking somewhat decently. He tried and planned the best he could given his limited resources. The only thing he did not anticipate was Ramsay’s game with Rickon.

      Meanwhile, Sansa came out looking like a moron for hiding the army from him. Annoying character. She was anything but a boss ass bitch this season. More like being an ass and bitching to Jon because muh numbers, muh army (while causing the loss of many lives and hiding the Vale army from him).

      Jon’s short scene with Melly was the first scene he had this season without Sansa post-reunion. That’s a shame for his character development. That scene where he was being run over in that pile of bodies was the stuff of nightmares.

      Btw, what happened to Lord Karstark?

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    185. Now that Ramsay’s story is over, what consequences, exactly, did Ramsay suffer for being a “mad dog”? Literally the only reason he lost, in the end, was because of Littlefinger, who was planning to attack him before he knew anything about him. Raping Sansa didn’t matter, because her escaping didn’t matter. Flaying Lord Cerwyn, etc. didn’t matter, because, indeed, most of the North refused to rise against him. Killing his dad cost him not a single man. If the show’s writers really think this was the fulfillment of Roose’s frequent warnings of what Ramsay would suffer if he didn’t rein things in, I fail to see how.

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    186. Sansa, you are awesome!

      Jon, you are awesome!

      Littlefinger, thanks for the army so Jon and Sansa can keep being awesome.

      Fuck you Ramsay. Hope the dogs ate your balls before you died.

      Sansa, thank you for being awesome.

      Meereen, thank you for being awesome.

      Dany, Tyrion, Asha, Theon, Grey Worm, thanks for being awesome.

      Rickon and Wun Wun, thank you for being awesome, and rest in piece.

      But most of all, David, Dan, Brian, Dave, and of course George, keep being awesome!

      Jon, kick some ass!!!

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    187. If you ever wanted to see what medieval warfare looked like…. Damn. It was so much chaos to take in, definitely needs a few re-watchings.

      I cheered dragons. I cheered the Vale. I cheered the Stark banners back where they belong. I cheered hungry dogs while a steely-eyed girl watched then smiled. You want Lady Stoneheart? Boom.

      More mentioning of wildfire and where. No foreshadowing there [whistles}

      Loved the Yara-Dany Appreciation Society and their rolling their eyes at the simple men.

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    188. The Bastard,

      People are complaining because the show has completely fucked up Jon’s character development ? It went for dramatic ending over good story telling.

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    189. Wow. Some people thought THAT was disappointment!? I don’t care… if you’re one of them, you suck!! That was the most thrilling thing I’ve seen in a TV SHOW ever!

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    190. very well acted, filmed, and edited

      but, very predictable and lazily written (This has plagued the entire season. The show could have done things in a much smarter way.)

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    191. What an episode…wow. I was so hoping for Ghost to chow down on some Ramsay face, but I will take that satisfying, completely fitting end for Ramsay. So impressed with the episode, overall. I’m not even gonna think about any nuances because it was that good. Have a bad feeling that Jon and Sansa aren’t gonna have a very healthy relationship and I hope he’s on his guard with her. Especially with Littlefinger lurking nearby. That battle was so intense, gritty and in-your-face with the action. Half the time I couldn’t tell if it was Smalljon hurting Tormund, or the opposite, and that freaked me out for a minute. Surprised at how much I liked the Meereen parts, too. Was hoping for them to show the Greyjoys’ grand entrance with their fleet, but still awesome. Not gonna lie, got choked up when the Stark banners went back up at Winterfell, and of course with the death of Wun Wun. He went out like a BAMF.

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    192. Alright Sansa fans. What you got to say for your girl now? 🙂

      Also I will say it looked like Jon was getting trampled to death and then the music damn I thought he was dead again and spoilers were wrong but wow that coupled with the horses spreading out around him I do believe he was supernaturally protected!

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    193. Sansa is at least somewhat responsible for the slaughter of at least 1500 men (and maybe some women). Well done, m’lady!

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    194. In other news, who here thinks Arya is gonna kill some Freys and that scene of them and the Lannisters is foreshadowing??????

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    195. ACME,

      What, you mean an actual nuanced idea that perhaps maybe Sansa is able to think and come up with her own game plan to win this? And perhaps she says nothing because it might not work? Geesh

      Oh but I loved that ending. Oh my yes

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    196. My initial thoughts…

      EPICNESS!!! I was teary-eyed with excitement the whole episode.

      Really love the gritty portrayal of a medieval battle Miguel brought to us with awesome action sequences.

      My favorite sequence was Jon Snow on foot pivoting and slashing away left and right while dodging horses and coming seconds close to death so many times but at the last second being saved by a comrade in arms.

      Goes to so in battles like this you not only need to be skilled in fighting but lucky as well, all those arrows messed him too.

      Dany’s stuff was good, her dragons were amazing but damn what an amazing warrior Jon Snow is.

      Jon Snow has been elevated yet again, his legend continues to grow and his accomplishments on the battlefield and at being a man of honor are unprecedented.

      I have no doubt the north will unite behind him and Sansa and together they can battle the white walkers.

      Really good episode, I guess I can give D&D a pass for withholding resources from Arya’s, Riverrun’s and The Hound’s payoff scenes in that last episode if they were needed to bring us this amazing episode 9.

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    197. Ate his fuckin face off!! Ramsey the bastard is no more. Satisfied just doesn’t seem like as good enough word for what happened.

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    198. Pretty Damn Enjoyable :o)

      Can see the haters already moaning about Jon been ‘Crap’ and Sansa been a ‘Bitch’ ..but that episode played right to me.

      (following soon by “Why didn’t Rickon Zigzag?” & “Couldn’t Wun-Wun have carried a Tree-club) lol

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    199. Sean C.:
      Now that Ramsay’s story is over, what consequences, exactly, did Ramsay suffer for being a “mad dog”?Literally the only reason he lost, in the end, was because of Littlefinger, who was planning to attack him before he knew anything about him.Raping Sansa didn’t matter, because her escaping didn’t matter.Flaying Lord Cerwyn, etc. didn’t matter, because, indeed, most of the North refused to rise against him.Killing his dad cost him not a single man.If the show’s writers really think this was the fulfillment of Roose’s frequent warnings of what Ramsay would suffer if he didn’t rein things in, I fail to see how.

      If all you are going to do is complain after an episode like this, I feel bad for you.

      I hope you find happiness in life.

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    200. Best episode of the show, Jon Snow was a legend among the blood and mud like Russel Crowe in Gladiator.

      “My name is Jon Snow, commander of the Armies of the North, former Lord Commander of the Nights Watch and loyal servant to the TRUE Lords of the North, the Starks. Brother to a murdered brother, son to a murdered father. And I will have my vengeance, in this life or the next.”

      But Sansa could of at least mentioned it, I’m guessing she wanted to be the “one” who gets Winterfell back?

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    201. I cried through the whole hour. I usually watch again right away, but I can’t…I can’t…
      Awful wonderful horrible fantastic!

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    202. Vyse,

      There are plenty of us falling all over ourselves over that episode.
      Hell, I don’t even like battles, but damn.
      I’m glad it wasn’t all battle, too.

      I knew we were in good hands with Sapochnik at the helm!

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    203. Jack Bauer 24,

      YES. Loved all Dany scenes. Even overlooked her constant smug expressions, because we got to see the dragon trio wreak havoc.

      Other than that… I mean the visuals of the battle were great, but based on a storytelling aspect……….. I just reaaaaally don’t like Sansa 🙁 and everything was so predictable. Results of the battle just like blackwater and castle black. Unless Sansa’s plan was to decimate both armies (crackpot conspiracy theory: does Sansa hate wildlings? :O) and gain her own victory (and Littlefinger’s)… Maybe my standards are too high with this show now, but I just hate when people make stupid decisions that don’t make sense. Ugh. Did I mention I don’t like Sansa?

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    204. Nadia,

      Him trying to breathe in the middle of that army charging at the end was terrifying.

      Looks like they’re talking about the Vale army next episode. I hope he tells her what’s up.

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    205. BunBunStark: They made Jon look like a fucking incompetent fool so Sansa could look like a “boss ass bitch”. Fucking bullshit.

      In my humble opinion, Jon did not look incompetent. Merely inexperienced, which he is. He never sought to be a leader, never wanted it. He was not trained to be an amazing tactician (Hardhome and the whole wildlings debacle are proof of that) and he improvises, to the best of his abilities. Which get better and better but it is a learning curve.
      As for Sansa, she could/should have told Jon about the Vale (unless she was not sure they would actually come…) Considering Baelish is the one who mentioned them to her, I would not be amazed to learn she was almost as surprised as her brother to see them

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    206. one of the best episode of the series i still think harhome was better but this one have more emotion good news THE NORTH REMEBER! bad news sansa lies to jon until the end and rickon died…so who is the head of house stark now?

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