Game of Thrones Season 6 Episode 8 – No One – Open Chat

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Game of Thrones Season 6, Episode 8 “No One”

Writers: David Benioff and D.B. Weiss
Director: Mark Mylod
Runtime: 59 minutes
Content Warnings: TV-MA: Adult Content, Adult Language, Brief Nudity, Violence
Video Preview: Full episode 8 preview on YouTube

SynopsisWhile Jaime weighs his options, Cersei answers a request. Tyrion’s plans bear fruit. Arya faces a new test.

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    1. Won’t be seeing tonight’s episode. Had a family emergency because my cousin was on life support, he then passed away last night, the entire family, including me were there when we had to let him go… he was 22 with a son who isn’t even 4 yet.

      Anyways, hope you guys enjoy the show tonight.

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    2. Gd75,

      I’m thinking these last 3 episodes of the season can be some of the best of the series, especially 9.
      I’m just hoping we see a scene or two in the North tonight. ?

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    3. I’m sure this will be a spectacular episode, but the best thing about it, is that we get to see the bastardbowl preview after!

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    4. Gd75:
      this one has the potential to be one of the greatest of the season! so hype

      Too much hype, I fear. I’m predicting lots of rage when none of the crazy internet theories pan out.

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    5. Connor,

      my deepest sympathies. It is always hard to let a beloved one go. sending you good thoughts and strength to get throught his hard time

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    6. Connor,

      I am sorry.
      Kind of reminds you how fragile life is. And unjust.

      I will not be watching either; I am catching a plane in a few hours, back to work in a country with tragic problems (and no reliable wi-fi).
      Happily (for me) I will be back just in time for the next episode.

      But I am sure you guys are in for a great show tonight! Enjoy!

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    7. Did Brienne mention to Sansa and Jon she has their family sword Ice on her? No!
      Did Jon mention to Lyanna that he has her family sword Longclaw on him? No!

      And yet Tarly steals his fathers valyrian sword like it a big deal.

      It it or it isn`t.

      I feel like D&D are laughing at us, they are laughing at us! I can hear them in my sleep!

      A Valyrian steel sword is a big deal, and if Brienne -spoiler

      returns Oathkeeper/Ice to Jamie im going to rage!

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    8. Alex:
      Joffery’s Cunt,

      I kind of agree lol, but the episode itself looks awesome aswell. Just hoping they don’t show too much of the battle.

      I don´t think they will, just some more new footage we haven’t seen in the trailer, this time with jon to get the hype train moving.

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    9. I’m so excited! I feel like the season this is going to be a huge episode followed by two even bigger episodes!

      I think if Lancel doesn’t die tonight then maybe they’re saving him for the big Sept burning that’s mentioned in spoilers/speculation? I feel like they’ll want as many named characters in that scene so that it’s really a MASSIVE moment! I think out of the Kings Landing characters only Cersei, Mountain, Qyburn and Olenna survive this season? Olenna will either go to Highgarden or Dorne, and I think Qyburn and Mountain will stick by Cersei and die only just before she does? But of course I could be wrong, I guess that’s what makes it fun!

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    10. I can’t wait to see the Brienne and Jaime reunion. It’ll have to differ from the books a bit

      because of no Lady Stoneheart. And no, I’m not getting the LS hypetrain that started back up with the appearance of Lemoncloak.

      so it’ll be interesting to see what they do and where they take it.

      I’m also itching to see something go down in KL. It’s been 7 episodes of build up. Time for something to happen!

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    11. LSH was pointless in the books.

      It took away from the suspension of having a character in a dangerous situation cause now you know anyone can be resurected at anytime….

      Her returning was a big – for me after reading the red wedding chapter in the books.

      let the dead stay dead.

      p.s.
      Yea im one of those who thing Jon should have never been killed in the books/TV show. Seriously wounded would have done the job.

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    12. Popping in to remind people again to cover your spoilers! Book spoilers need to be covered.

      Yes, everything to do with LSH needs to be covered.

      Please be considerate of others’ experience here. Thanks.

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    13. Currently watching Germany vs Ukraine and the hype levels are off the charts. Hopefully this episode can match it 😛

      Looking forward to NOONEBOWL and Brienne. I wish Bran and Jon were in this episode, but it doesn’t seem like it based on the pictures posted here.

      Don’t give Oathkeeper away, Brienne!

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    14. Hoyti Von Totiy,

      I feel like Jon would have told Lyanna when he was reminiscing about Jeor, but she interrupted him and he had to get to the point.

      But, yeah it’s weird 😛

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    15. Flayed Potatoes,

      Damn the game is good! Ukraine is really better then I thought!

      Connor,

      So sorry to hear this Connor. My condolences to you and your family.
      I lost my grandmother earlier this year, so I know just how hard it is…

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    16. Anyone know who Jamie was talking to when declaring his love for Cersei at 0:23 in the episode 8 trailer?

      RIP Jamienne

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    17. Mihnea,

      Yeah they’re doing well, especially considering how tough of an opponent Germany is. Boateng was amazing in the first half imo.

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    18. Flayed Potatoes,

      Yeah, I’m with you regarding Jon and Bran. Jon would be good in this ep, to build up the battle some more. I don’t expect to see Bran before the finale, sadly.

      Who are you rooting for between Germany and Ukraine ?

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    19. Flayed Potatoes:
      Currently watching Germany vs Ukraine and the hype levels are off the charts.

      Haha I’m watching the game as well. That’s funny in France right now, we have supporters from all around Europe, and that’s great fun!

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    20. Flayed Potatoes:
      Gd75,

      It must be so difficult to try and get tickets. I bet the atmosphere is amazing.

      My father and I managed to get tickets for the semi-finals in Lyon, if France are still qualified! So I’m in deep hope France will get there 🙂

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    21. Sort of nervous about the last 3 eps, oh boy! Will Jon and Sansa prevail, what is going on with Hound and Arya, Cersei and HS, Brienne and Jamie, BF, Edmure, Rickon, Tommen, Marge,QoT, yikes! Haven’t even touched on Daeny heading for Westeros (please to the 7 gods!)

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    22. Conor, I volunteer in a local hospice, and thus continuously reminded of what is truly important in this life. Blessings to you and your family in your time of loss, give each other comfort as you can, it is the richest gift we can give.

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    23. It seems that the elements for another “Red Wedding” type event are in place.

      There’s a high-stakes war, and there’s a secret/betrayal. Now, they “need more men” to win the war, not unlike Robb did. Sansa knows that they will lose the war if they don’t have enough men. She crawls back to a man – who she earlier told off in the harshest terms – to get more men and win her war. If she loses, Ramsey takes her back into his custody and slaughters everyone else. It was Cat who told off Littlefinger in the earlier war; and it was Robb who crawled back to Walder after betraying an oath. Cat also betrayed the North in what must be the worlds worst hostage exchange.

      Robb led his army into Walder’s camp like lambs to a slaughter.

      The Walder counterpart here is Littlefinger. If Sansa sends that letter, he will be in a powerful position to slaughter the lambs: Jon and his Army….and even Sansa too, if he wishes.

      A dangerous time will be if, and when, Jon’s army let it’s guard down because it seems safe.

      Of course, maybe no slaughter occurs, but it will be up to Littlefinger to decide.

      Thanks, Sansa.

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    24. Very hyped for the episode. At the same time dreading the reaction of those who have crazy theories for Arya if/when none of them happen.

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    25. Gd75,

      Damn, lucky you ! I live in Geneva, Switzerland, so I was also hoping to go see a match since I’m so close but sadly I’ll be abroad during the last week of the tournament and am currently sitting for exams, so there will be no live Euro attendance for me this year.

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    26. For the later episodes I’ve been avoiding spoilers like the plague. Last week was truly surprising in many ways. I want more Tyrion though. He’s barely been in these past few episodes.

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    27. Anon,

      Major difference between House Frey and the Knights of the Vale. Littlefinger can very well to do what he pleases, but the Starks never betrayed the Arryns, the Royces, or anyone else who matters. They’ve been connected since Ned was fostered there and Lysa became Lady of the Vale. Lord Arryn is Sansa and Jon’s cousin. They’re not going to turn on and slaughter the Starks the way the Freys did. This isn’t Littlefinger’s army, even if he currently has Lord Arryn eating from his hands. Robin is a doofus but he isn’t a mindless zombie who will just do anything Littlefinger tells him to, especially if Sansa lets him know it was actually Uncle Petyr who killed his mother.

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    28. I hope arya is ok. She’s one of my favorites. Can anyone explain to me how Arya is an endgame character? I hear people say that often but I don’t see why. There are people who are clearly endgame characters like Jon dany and bran, but those characters either have a clear role to play in the final conflict or have a mythology to them. I love arya but I don’t see how she would be crucial to the endgame. I guess the faceless men skills are useful, but I don’t see her being essential to the end. So what is the speculation for why she is so important? What is her role?

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    29. My predictions that the hound will

      join the brotherhood without banners and go on a killing spree (like a certain character in the books)

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    30. KevLS:
      Flayed Potatoes,

      I think he had to die to he released from his vow to the Night’s Watch, though.Just being wounded wouldn’t have achieved that.

      exactly… For Jon’s story to move on he has to leave the NW, and he has to die to do that. You can ignore ravens from the LC of the NW.. you cant ignore man at your castle walls with an army behind him saying “Shits about to get real..”

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    31. Connor:
      Won’t be seeing tonight’s episode. Had a family emergency because my cousin was on life support, he then passed away last night, the entire family, including me were there when we had to let him go… he was 22 with a son who isn’teven 4 yet.

      Anyways, hope you guys enjoy the show tonight.

      I’m so sorry to hear that Connor. Prayers going out to you and your family. God Bless.

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    32. The promised prince,

      Arya has the most POV chapters along with Tyrion in the books and was conceived as one of the big 6 – Tyrion, Jon, Dany, Bran, Arya and Sansa. I think it would be a poor choice if any of those characters die before the big finale.

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    33. Do you guys think we are actually going to see a battle at Riverrun?

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    34. Adam,

      “Lord Arryn”….you mean the dead guy? Or are you talking about Robin? Robin is under LF’s control and Royce has been threatened by LF. I think LF is the Lord of the Vale until Robin comes of age, No? …which, by the way, he will never do if Littlefinger has anything to say about it.

      First, I don’t think Robin will march with the army, but I’m sure about that. Second, I think he’ll do whatever LF suggests to him. In the fray of the battle, I don’t think Sansa can tell Royce anything!

      But I guess we’ll find out soon!

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    35. Dee Stark:
      YAAAAA
      HYPPPPPEEEEEE

      Whoooohaaaa there girl 🙂

      I’m not the ‘hyping’ type – I’m too bloody old these days to get hyped up over a TV show… However, I will chill out (i.e. If I can stay awake as it will be 2am for me), take it all in and report back at some unearthly hour with my thoughts for S6E08.

      I may not hype, but will certain rant (be swearing abuse at the TV) if something pisses me off or likewise – Cheer at the TV if I like what I see – LOL 😀

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    36. The promised prince,

      It’s hard to say what will her role be in the endgame, but she must have some kind of role, otherwise there would’ve been no need for us to follow her adventures in Riverlands, much less Braavos. And her story just ending in Braavos makes little sense. I know main characters have died suddenly before, but always with big consequences to the story and other characters. What would Arya dying in Braavos do to the story? Most other characters think she is dead anyway, and no one (pun not intended) would care about a random girl dying in Braavos nor would it affect anything or anyone in Westeros.

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    37. Thanks for your condolences, watchers! Appreciate it greatly. We are pulling through. And thanks to those in advance for the kind wishes!

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    38. Anon,

      Littlefinger has control of Robin..for now..
      all Sansa has to do is talk sweet to him and he will be eating out of her hand.

      thats why I think either this season or next is LF last.. Sweet Robin will come of age and control the vale so he will lose his power there and Jon/Sansa have Davos who will see LF tricks coming a mile a way and if not stop them, at least make them less dangerous.

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    39. I’ve been excited all week for GoT; however, I live in Orlando, Florida, and the entire city is in mourning. The show may be a welcome distraction or too much to bear to watch much of anything relating to the Loras arc. I won’t know until it showtime if I can do much more than weep.

      Tell your loved ones how much they mean to you everyday, for the nights can indeed be dark and full of terrors.

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    40. Hey everyone. I’ve been a WotW visitor for years but this will be my first time commenting.

      My only question is does anyone think Arya will ever reunite with Nymeria?

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    41. 59 Minutes. That’s awesome~
      And knowing the next two episodes are above 60, especially the finale being the longest episode of GoT to date (69 mins), that’ll be heck of a three episode conclusion.

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    42. LSH appearing

      would be a shark-jumping moment for me. I trust D&D to not make the same mistake as George.

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    43. WildlingKing,

      Yes I agree there has to be a purpose for Arya’s sojourn in Braavos and I hope it means Arya’s continued participation is assured for some time yet. GRRM surely wouldn’t have kept her story going there without some long term arc to play out – BUT I imagine it is always possible that Arya was needed only as a way into the world of the Faceless Men and it is they who have a key role to play, not Arya.

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    44. WildlingKing:
      Very hyped for the episode. At the same time dreading the reaction of those who have crazy theories for Arya if/when none of them happen.

      Too funny. There are certainly lots of theories going around. While I’m a busy husband and father of three, I briefed through some of the main theories floating out there…

      I for one think the whole Arya plot developments we saw last week were (don’t flay me please) nothing more than merely a dream. Here’s why:

      I believe it was ep6 that had the scene with Arya retrieving needle. The last shot of her is in her chambers, putting needle under her bed and blowing out the candle. Maybe she dreamt her scenes last episode? A lot of people mentioned, it didn’t seem like who we saw was actually Arya. She was acting a bit peculiar. Now, could she be in a dream state, causally reminiscing about her time in Braavos? Her excitement of becoming Arya once again, and returning to Westeros? Maybe…this would account for her thinking there was no danger in walking around Bravoos. However, her subconscious reminds her that there are very real threats out there and she has to be on top of her game going forward. Thus, we see a stunned Waif who realizes she’s the one being stalked by Arya. Then, the chase ensues. Relying on her dance training by Serio, she eliminates the waif in true Braavosie fashion, finds Lady Crane and is allowed to take voyage with the theatre troupe, and thus gets the hell outta dodge.

      If this theory, or something similar to it exists, then forgive me. I just have been racking my mind as to how this will play out. I’m intrigued by some of the other theories out there as well. But this, sounds remotely like it could be possible no?

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    45. Shaz:
      The promised prince,

      Arya has the most POV chapters along with Tyrion in the books and was conceived as one of the big 6 – Tyrion, Jon, Dany, Bran, Arya and Sansa. I think it would be a poor choice if any of those characters die before the big finale.

      Dabbling in a bit of revisionist history eh? Sansa is not in that group.

      Very excited to see how Arya’s story is resolved in Braavos tonight.

      Connor, so sorry to hear of your loss. 🙁

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    46. Connor:
      Won’t be seeing tonight’s episode. Had a family emergency because my cousin was on life support, he then passed away last night, the entire family, including me were there when we had to let him go… he was 22 with a son who isn’teven 4 yet.

      Anyways, hope you guys enjoy the show tonight.

      So sorry to hear and my thoughts are with you. I’m so sorry for your loss. That is crushing

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    47. LL of Darkwater,

      I was completely shocked when I saw that on tv. I’ve visited Orlando a couple of times, it’s such a lovely place… I hope you can find some peace and comfort in the weeks to come.

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    48. Pigeon:

      Sue the Fury,

      You are really making me

      If it makes you feel any better, I am staunchly pro-LSH and I

      don’t think she will be making an appearance. UNLESS it’s to come back and die within 2 episodes, which would be pointless. This Lem Lemoncloak actor’s shenanigans on Twitter make me even more convinced she’s out for certain. I would be happy to be wrong but realistically, there’s a 99.9% chance she’s not appearing.

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    49. How much time do you guys think that episode 9 will be about the Battle of The Bastards? I know it won’t be the entire episode (sadly). If it’s 45-50 minutes I will be very pleased. I’m thinking the episode will just have two locations, Mereen and Winterfell, and Mereen shouldn’t take more than 10 minutes, hopefully. If it’s as big as they are making it to be, than it should take more than half of the episode, at least.

      Edit: I know its off topic, sorry!

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    50. LL of Darkwater:
      I’ve been excited all week for GoT; however,I live in Orlando, Florida, and the entire city is in mourning.The show may be a welcome distraction or too much to bear to watch much of anything relating to the Loras arc. I won’t know until it showtime if I can do much more than weep.

      Tell your loved ones how much they mean to you everyday, for the nights can indeed be dark and full of terrors.

      Im in Miami now, and man was that an awful news story to wake up to on a Sunday morning. And coincidentally it’s the I CHOOSE VIOLENCE episode that airs today. Been looking forward to this scene all season, but now idk if I’ll enjoy it as much. Thankfully, no one I know was hurt in the incident. ::sigh:: The night is indeed dark and full of terrors.

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    51. Alex:
      How much time do you guys think that episode 9 will be about the Battle of The Bastards? I know it won’t be the entire episode (sadly). If it’s 45-50 minutes I will be very pleased. I’m thinking the episode will just have two locations, Mereen and Winterfell, and Mereen shouldn’t take more than 10 minutes, hopefully. If it’s as big as they are making it to be, than it should take more than half of the episode, at least.

      I’d guess 25-30 mins.

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    52. Laura,

      Of course she is, maybe not in the books but she is in the show ABSOLUTELY, if this isn’t obvious for likes of you – specially after this season – then there’s no way to explain it, you just can’t see it simply because you don’t want to.

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    53. Laura,

      So sue me! ?

      Anyhow the big 6 consists of them given where we are 5 books and 6 seasons in. But Arya’s importance from the very beginning adds credence to the theory that she’ll survive and Sansa will perish. I used to think that with Arya’s whole arc being about death, the only release for her would be death but now I’m not so sure.

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    54. The promised prince,

      She’s an important character, otherwise we wouldn’t have so much time dedicated to her training in Braavos. She has to put what she’s learned to good use. Think that all the Stark children have been separated and sent to locations where they will learn the necessary skills to use in the end.

      If I remember correctly, the top 3 characters with the most chapters in the books (including TWOW excerpts) are:

      Tyrion – 49 chapters
      Jon – 42 chapters
      Arya – 34 chapters

      George and D&D wouldn’t dedicate so much time to Arya if she wasn’t important. She’s an endgame character imo.

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    55. Littlefinger is in position to become the next biggest threat to the Starks and the North. When Ramsey dies, and I hope that is soon, the only other big threats are the night king and Euron. I don’t see the final battle with the WW happening until season 8 and Euron is going to be a threat to the Reach or southern shores not the north. Maybe Arya will be the one to take him out when she finds out that he has been the one pulling all the strings from the beginning which resulted in the deaths of her mother, father and brother.

      I think the Lannisters will soon be gone like the Raines.

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    56. Connor,

      So sorry to hear about your cousin’s untimely death. Thoughts go out to you and your family.

      And it may go without saying, but the events in Orlando is such an awful tragedy. Watching GoT tonight seems trivial, to be honest. Might wait a few days.

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    57. Hoyti Von Totiy: Im thinking a small indoor / yard fight mix like we saw in Crasters for instance.

      I think the scene in the middle of the night of Brienne in the boat with other people could mean that after she gives Sansa’s letter to the BF, he decides that fighting for a castle is far less important then what is happening in the north. The Tully forces abandon riverrun to head north to assist in retaking WF from the Boltons.

      Jamie and the Lannister forces storm the castle and find it deserted. This accounts for the celebration we see with the Frey’s. In a full circle type moment, wouldn’t it be nice to have the Frey’s slain during their festivities? I would love that imo.

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    58. Alex:
      How much time do you guys think that episode 9 will be about the Battle of The Bastards? I know it won’t be the entire episode (sadly). If it’s 45-50 minutes I will be very pleased. I’m thinking the episode will just have two locations, Mereen and Winterfell, and Mereen shouldn’t take more than 10 minutes, hopefully. If it’s as big as they are making it to be, than it should take more than half of the episode, at least.

      Edit: I know its off topic, sorry!

      It entirely depends on what they’re planning to do with Meereen. We’ll probably have a better idea after tonights episode. But as of now I’m guessing 15-20 minutes for Meereen and 40-45 for the North.

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    59. Sou,

      Hey at least you won’t have to miss the battle of the bastards- it airs smack dab in the middle of my cruise. -_- leave it tony wife to plan something during the most important episode of the season!

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    60. Alex,

      I hope it’s not too long, especially since it seems like we might be getting a lot of Meereen action this episode. 10-15 minutes in Episode 9 should be enough imo for Dany to come with her Dothraki. I hope the attack on Meereen starts this episode. The Harpies seem impatient.

      Meanwhile, Bastardbowl needs a lot more pre-battle scenes from the trailers alone (Davos and Mel, Sansa and Jon, Jon and Tormund). They’ve been hyping this expensive battle too much. I hope it doesn’t disappoint.

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    61. Flayed Potatoes,

      Do we know that, as in do we know what the end game is and how having died and being brought back might affect Jon’s choices? If it were just to get Jon out of his NW vows, I’ll agree with you. As we’ve seen, vows don’t seem to mean that much in the North anymore. I do wonder if there will be something in that final conflict within Jon that having died will influence that being gravely wounded would not.

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    62. Flayed Potatoes,

      I honestly don’t think episode 9 will have more than 10 minutes of Mereen, and the Harpy attack will probably be in the finale imo. If the Battle is about 30 minutes, then the episodes will have more stories in King’s Landing and etc.
      I’m hoping that the battle takes more than half of the episode because I want them to build a lot of tension, have some good character moments, and then have the battle itself.

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    63. gewa76,

      Hee, really.

      Hoyti Von Totiy,

      Ive been asking for this for a while; we’ve got a bold, blockquote and italic, why not spoiler? (Oh I also want a pony, just in case one is available)

      Im going to have the Tonys on the other tv on mute with captions. At least thats the plan, it starts an hour before. We’ll see. Something tells me I’ll be too distracted by GOT to want to do anything else!

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    64. How awful it would be if Sansa ends up promising to marry Littlefinger in exchange for the Vale forces? We haven’t yet seen the season trailer scene where LF is meeting someone in a snowy forest.

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    65. Connor,

      I’m sorry for your loss, Connor. I lost a cousin, too, at about that age although he didn’t have a family of his own beyond parents and extended family. Every situation is different, of course, but the loss of one so young is always tough.

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    66. Ser Not Appearing in this Series,

      Yes, I do hope there is a higher purpose and it wasn’t like Dany’s time in Meereen or Sansa’s in the Vale (in the books), biding time until they become older and fill that time gap that was in the original story. Sometimes I wonder if Arya went from the Hound to where her story may be going next in the original outline for ASOIAF.

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    67. Ser Christos of House Spekktra,

      We’ve been watching the news here and all of it is truly horrifying. Only a few names of the deceased and wounded have been released, but I’ve gotten word that I may know a few of the victims. The LGBT Community is strong here and will pull together, although this event is heart wrenching.

      If tonight’s episode were centered in The North, or in Essos, I believe I would be glad of the few hours of escape GoT would bring. As the Faith Militant and the Loras Arc may be featured, it may hit a bit too close to home.

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    68. Adam,

      Robin is a doofus but he isn’t a mindless zombie who will just do anything Littlefinger tells him to, especially if Sansa lets him know it was actually Uncle Petyr who killed his mother.

      See Ive wondered about this. When LF is talking with him at Royce’s castle, I got the impression that he was just parroting anything LF said. Im not sure how much he understands, frankly (I know in the books this isn’t an issue). But yeah, if Sansa gives him that news, that might wake him up.

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    69. Darkrobin,

      The thing is, they don’t even mention the resurrection anymore on the show, so it feels like an afterthought and a way for Jon to loophole his way out of the NW (which could have still been done after an assassination attempt, because nobody in their right mind would stay alongside people who tried to kill them; it would have also made Jon a bit of a grey character and given him more conflict). The show has been hyping Jon’s fate so much before the season premiered and has created all these expectations, so it feels a bit disappointing to not have his resurrection addressed properly.

      The Northern houses aren’t even asking him about the NW, which is weird. I guess you can argue that they don’t seem to care about vows anymore, but why not mention that they don’t care?

      Tormund tells Jon “they think you’re some kind of god”, but we don’t see that. Jon still has to convince the Wildlings to fight for him…you’d think they’d be in awe or curious about his mental state because the resurrections they’ve seen thus far were wight related. Even Brienne is casual about it, considering Jon was resurrected by the same person she knows is responsible for killing Renly “with blood magic”. It’s weird.

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    70. LL of Darkwater,

      I live in Orlando, Florida, and the entire city is in mourning. The show may be a welcome distraction or too much to bear to watch much of anything relating to the Loras arc. I won’t know until it showtime if I can do much more than weep.

      Oh geez. When I heard about that, I thought that maybe living in a fantasy world wouldn’t be a bad idea, even if it is a bit violent. Thinking of you all, and hoping that we can someday live in a world where people can just live their lives without fear.

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    71. Have no idea if it will come up tonight or this season at all, but (puttin’ on m’ tin foil) I keep hoping the Big Secret the Sparrow shared is that Gendry is a legit Baratheon. If the Crown plays nice, he’ll keep it secret. If they don’t, he could trot it out and the people would happily accept the Sparrow’s Chosen One (with a stronger claim to boot).

      I’m not sure what’s going on in Wonderland, aka Braavos, but taking last week’s scenes at face value makes no sense. I had a disassociative moment when Arya got stabbed. Somebody’s getting played. Hopefully we find out tonight.

      Oh, and from the looks of things in the preview, FrankenMountain gets play time. Which means finishing dinner before showtime.

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    72. ArgonathofBraavos:
      Connor,

      So sorry to hear about your cousin’s untimely death. Thoughts go out to you and your family.

      And it may go without saying, but the events in Orlando is such an awful tragedy. Watching GoT tonight seems trivial, to be honest. Might wait a few days.

      Yes, I am looking for the sense of outrage and solidarity on the Internet that immediately followed the Paris and Brussels terrorist attacks! Last night’s attack by a fundamentalist bigot on the peacefully partying customers of an Orlando nightclub was the deadliest mass shooting in recent US history. At least 50 people are dead, with many more still in critical condition. This is what comes of hate, intolerance and ‘othering.’

      Our thoughts and prayers cannot bring back the dead, but our courage going forward to confront bullying and bigotry wherever we encounter them might save lives in the future. We don’t have to be members of the LGBTQ community to identify ourselves proudly as Allies!

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    73. Hoyti Von Totiy,

      Does Brienne know that Oathkeeper came from Ice, as did the sword Tywin gave Joffrey as a wedding present. As a matter of fact, does Jaime know Oathkeeper came from Ice? Does anybody know what happened to Joffrey’s Valyerian sword? I hope it wasn’t buried with it.

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    74. Flayed Potatoes,

      They don’t have infinite screen time… They’ve spent the last few episodes on other plot lines
      We still have 3 episodes left…

      Though I do understand why it bothers you.

      For me, Jon has never popped on the TV show as an interesting character (tho s5 was good), so i just don’t care about him @ this point… Which probably proves your point.

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    75. How rad would it be if Mel was walking around Winterfell as her old lady self gathering info for Jon and Co.? I think it”d be fantastic!

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    76. Knight of the Walkers,

      I totally agree. At this stage, just no. If Hound wants to take over her character fine. But I’d be very disappointed if this happens.

      HeHeldThatDoor,

      I for one think the whole Arya plot developments we saw last week were (don’t flay me please) nothing more than merely a dream. Here’s why:

      At the risk of repeating myself: no. just no. D&D are too talented in the storytelling dept to fall for that overused trop. No, pls now.

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    77. Shaz:
      The promised prince,

      Arya has the most POV chapters along with Tyrion in the books and was conceived as one of the big 6 – Tyrion, Jon, Dany, Bran, Arya and Sansa. I think it would be a poor choice if any of those characters die before the big finale.

      I think Cersei will die fairly soon. Possibly in the last show of the season. Remember with only 13 episodes left, a lot has to happen.

      We’ll have some action with Danarys and the dragons in Westeros and you know there will have to be at least one battle against the Night King, etc. Probably more.

      It would make sense for something to happen in King’s Landing…Mountain not winning for her that leads to her going nuts and setting fire to the place. I would guess soon after or even during a fire like that she will die.

      Remember there will not be all that many of the lead characters around at the end.

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    78. GiantFinger:
      Hey everyone. I’ve been a WotW visitor for years but this will be my first time commenting.

      My only question is does anyone think Arya will ever reunite with Nymeria?

      Welcome! Nice to see new posters. I think the consensus is we are all HOPING she will but since we are beyond the books no one knows for sure. I’m guessing since we have seen all of the Starks Direwolves that we will eventually see Nymeria again one day… soon lets keep fingers crossed. GIANT FINGERS that is.. lol… 😉

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    79. I don’t think things will work out the same way with Brienne that they did in the books.

      After all, she was charged with protecting Sansa and Arya and has done so. She was also rejected by both of them, although Sansa changed her mind.

      Also, I don’t think Jamie will die there because he is probably the one who will kill Cersei.

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    80. HeHeldThatDoor,

      Jamie and the Lannister forces storm the castle and find it deserted. This accounts for the celebration we see with the Frey’s. In a full circle type moment, wouldn’t it be nice to have the Frey’s slain during their festivities? I would love that imo.

      I like this idea except wouldn’t the Lannisters notice all of RR army leaving? I can’t imagine they’d just let them go….

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    81. Connor:
      Won’t be seeing tonight’s episode. Had a family emergency because my cousin was on life support, he then passed away last night, the entire family, including me were there when we had to let him go… he was 22 with a son who isn’teven 4 yet.

      Anyways, hope you guys enjoy the show tonight.

      I am so sorry that happened. 🙁

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    82. LL of Darkwater:
      Ser Christos of House Spekktra,

      We’ve been watching the news here and all of it is truly horrifying.Only a few names of the deceased and wounded have been released,but I’ve gotten word that I may know a few of the victims.The LGBT Community is strong here and will pull together, although this event is heart wrenching.

      If tonight’s episode were centered in The North, or in Essos, I believe I would be glad of the few hours of escape GoT would bring.As the Faith Militant and the Loras Arc may be featured, it may hit a bit too close to home.

      I live here in Tampa and it’s been horrific. All day been trying not to let it get me down but it’s been just horrible. Just mad as hell the FBI knew this guy was a loose cannon and that they didn’t have anyone keeping up with his movements. SERIOUSLY he was allowed to buy guns after all of the ranting he’s done in the last few years? Despicable.

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    83. LL of Darkwater:
      I’ve been excited all week for GoT; however,I live in Orlando, Florida, and the entire city is in mourning.The show may be a welcome distraction or too much to bear to watch much of anything relating to the Loras arc. I won’t know until it showtime if I can do much more than weep.

      Tell your loved ones how much they mean to you everyday, for the nights can indeed be dark and full of terrors.

      I live in Tallahassee, FL and I saw the news today. It is so awful what happened in that nightclub. There are people out there who are so hateful.

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    84. If briene can convince the bf that going north is more important than holding rr then the bf could make a deal with jaime…let them leave and they can have rr. jaimie should agree as like the bf said..”do you have 2 years ?”

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    85. Hoyti Von Totiy: LSH was pointless in the books.

      “Was”…sorta. She forced a character-defining choice on Brienne, one that was unfortunately totally botched on the show.

      But your tense is wrong in any case. LSH clearly is going to have a major scene with Jaime and Brienne early in TWOW, and one way or the other, her road leads back to one of her daughters (probably Arya, but that’s a long way off yet). These are the two reasons she cannot be “replaced” with, say, the Blackfish. He can murder every Frey in Westeros, but he cannot replace what LSH is doing with respect to Brienne and Jaime, and he could not replace the family aspect which will likely come to pass.

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    86. Ice Spider: I live here in Tampa and it’s been horrific. All day been trying not to let it get me down but it’s been just horrible. Just mad as hell the FBI knew this guy was a loose cannon and that they didn’t have anyone keeping up with his movements. SERIOUSLY he was allowed to buy guns after all of the ranting he’s done in the last few years? Despicable.

      I heard about that and it me mad all over again. I just don’t understand. Soon, GoT will be on.

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    87. Old Nan's Pie:
      My predictions that the hound will

      Maybe not, assuming that

      he’s going to fight for the Faith against Cersei’s Franken Monster That Rides. The BHWB are with the Red God, and not with the Faith of the Seven.

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    88. So, while I have always wanted it to happen, I never thought it would.

      Okay, I thought it would in S4, but not really since then. However, a few comments here and there, plus the appearance of Lemoncloak, have me hyped up. I think LSH is going to happen.

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    89. Jack Bauer 24,

      Will it help? Will it ease the suffering, comfort the friends and families, bring us hope for a change? If not I don’t see why they would. Tho I suppose I can see it hurting people who are grieving, that it would play. I dunno. Im sorry all this happened. Pls can I just watch my fantasy show?

      ETA just read the link. If the Tony Awards is off then maybe GOT should be too. Or maybe we should just turn off all the tv stations and darken the theatres. Not sure that will help much either.

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    90. Angela: I heard about that and it me mad all over again. I just don’t understand. Soon, GoT will be on.

      Yes GoT will be on but when something like this happens so close to home it really deflates your desire for ‘entertainment’ to steal away your concerns .. just really horrific for the community and our state at large. We have had way too many dealings with these murderers. Seriously, wasn’t the guys who received their training in flying commercial airplanes here, enough to send up flags to our govt that these ppl are infiltrated in our communities. Sick to my stomach over it.

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    91. Jack Bauer 24:

      Should HBO have postponed GoT tonight, especially considering the big “I choose violence” bit and the Faith Militant will be featured?

      I don’t think that there’s enough similarity between what happened in Orlando and the non-real world of GOT, however tragic the murder of these 50+ people was.

      Typically, when the networks postpone an episode, there’s something more directly similar, such as a plane crash after a real plane crash, or a school shooting after a real school shooting. I don’t think tonight’s episode will really remind us of anything similar to last night’s real horrors.

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    92. Dragon Tender,

      As much as the realm is rooting for Cleganebowl, I just don’t see that happening.

      Remember his combat with Beric Dondarion where he came out victarious. I have a feeling he is one of the chose few of the Red God. In the riverland, the BwB are the only ones worshipping the Red God, so my bets are him joining up with them and wrcking havoc on the Freys/Lannisters…

      But again this is my personal theory. Could be completely off the mark

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    93. As to speculation for tonight, I’m reasonably certain that none of the wilder theories will pan out, even the Syrio and faux blood theory I thought were worth discussing. At the same time, I believe something is rotten in the state of Braavos. All is not what she seems. And I hope we have a spectacular resolution on that front.

      As I’ve mentioned elsewhere, I’m reminded of how very much the Hall of Faces was hyped in the pre-season. We saw this promo/teaser trailer:

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmrA8nOZF2Q

      We had a massive Hall of Faces display at SFSX, complete with hundreds of faces, an Arya costume, a Jaqen costume, Needle in front of the Black and White doors, and a Beautiful Death poster with some eerily inky House of Black and White pools that contained faces inside the green inky pools. http://watchersonthewall.com/game-of-thrones-hits-sxsw-with-the-hall-of-faces-and-a-season-6-clip/

      And then we had the online game HBO released where you could add your own face to the Hall of Faces, we had a massive Twitter campaign for various well known characters in the Hall of Faces, and we had the season’s poster and the face of Season 6 as the Hall of Faces.

      At the time, we were like: Is the whole season going to be about the HoB&W and the HoF? Why are they hyping it so? With our last sight of the HoF and the HoB&W coming in the next 3 to 4 hours, I think tonight’s episode, “No One,” is the reason for all the hype. Or at least I hope it is. I hope the big reveal is epic and worthy of everything Arya’s been working toward.

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    94. Just got back to the US last night. Been in Salamanca and Toledo for 10 days. Good to be home.

      This has been an interesting season up to this point. Not sure if anyone else feels this way but it seems as if we really haven’t spent too much time with any 1 main character and even less with the minor ones like Tarly, Sand Snakes, Ramsay etc.

      I hope the remaining 3 episodes tie all those loose threads together nicely.

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    95. ash:
      HeHeldThatDoor,

      I like this idea except wouldn’t the Lannisters notice all of RR army leaving?I can’t imagine they’d just let them go….

      Maybe the BF leads them out the same way he managed to retake RR from the Frey’s?

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    96. Sam:
      Does Brienne know that Oathkeeper came from Ice, as did the sword Tywin gave Joffrey as a wedding present.As a matter of fact, does Jaime know Oathkeeper came from Ice?

      Yes, both Brienne and Jaime know. Quoth the latter in 404: “It was reforged from Ned Stark’s sword. You’ll use it to defend Ned Stark’s daughter.”

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    97. Jack Bauer 24,

      My origins are from a country where this happens very so Often – we can’t give in to the fear they want us to .
      I think this situation is different as said in the article so I don’t see them cancelling.

      That said, we must send prayers and positive vibes to every one affected by the tragedy today, including the talented young singer from Friday nights Orlando event.

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    98. ash,

      Given that Broadway has long celebrated and championed LGBT rights, I can understand why they might want to delay that show. But I don’t think premium cable is comparable.

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    99. Jack Bauer 24:
      http://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2016/06/orlando-shooting-tony-awards-game-of-thrones

      Should HBO have postponed GoT tonight, especially considering the big “I choose violence” bit and the Faith Militant will be featured?

      I don’t know how I feel about HBO cancelling the show. In one instance I agree out of respect to the families and lives lost, on the other I’m not sure we should because this just shows those (bleep) that they can affect our lives and Im so against that.

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    100. Miss Stark:
      So, while I have always wanted it to happen, I never thought it would.

      Careful with that kind of talk around here. People here are psychotically Anti-LSH – even those who haven’t read the books, because, ummm, reasons. If she does appear, probably best to go to another site because this place will be a shitshow!

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    101. Ice Spider: Yes GoT will be on but when something like this happens so close to home it really deflates your desire for ‘entertainment’ to steal away your concerns .. just really horrific for the community and our state at large. We have had way too many dealings with these murderers. Seriously, wasn’t the guys who received their training in flying commercial airplanes here, enough to send up flags to our govt that these ppl are infiltrated in our communities. Sick to my stomach over it.

      I know.

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    102. Back on subject… a few questions…

      I think Brienne will get The Blackfish to go with her back to Jon and Sansa and that will give Jaime his “victory” and also give an out for The Blackfish to leave behind RR for now. I think the greater good of helping Sansa and Jon get Winterfell back will be a stronger force and of course making sure the fight stays in the North against the WW. RR won’t mean crap to anyone if the WW get past Winterfell.. so for me it will make more sense to BF to leave his homelands to do fight the bigger fight.

      I also am in the camp that the Pink Letter is written by Littlefinger. It was pointed out in a recap that he actually says “COME AND SEE” to Robin when he’s showing him the Falcon he gets for him as his named present and we all know that phrase was mentioned over and over in the letter.. . D&D have always thrown out bones (so to speak) to let us know clues as to the storyline and I think this is just another clue they are dropping subtle as it is. But since Littlefinger really has been the catalyst of all the problems that have been occurring since the show aired -beginning with convincing Lysa to kill her husband Jon, it makes perfect sense that he is trying to force a showdown between the Snow Bastards to further his cause for control. He does NOT want to be the KING of the seven kingdoms BUT he does want to be the power player behind the scenes since he feels that is a more safe position.

      So questions:
      1. How many believe that RR will go into the hands of Jaime and the Frey’s bc Tully’s and company decide to go and help the Starks and fight against the WW?

      2. How many believe that the Pink letter is really written by Little Finger?

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    103. Ice Spider,

      But wouldn’t Ramsay want Jon to know that he had Rickon? Otherwise what’s the point, who else can he turn to to ransom Rickon? He assumes Sansa went to the wall after he found out she escaped.

      The LF is plausible but Ramsay would have sent a letter anyways I think.

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    104. Great discussion. And Connor, as you can see, our thoughts are with you.

      I too have wondered about Arya and the endgame. It’s not obvious that her particular powers, knowledge, and determination can in any way slow the onrush of the WW and their wights. But I have a few theories, though I’m not convinced by any. 1).In the pre-endgame, Arya can certainly ‘remove’ a few players who have obstructed her family and help settle the war that has distracted the seven kingdoms from even acknowledging the Threat from beyond the Wall. If Westerosi are to survive, they must be led by a king and/or queen who will unite them and provide the weaponry, armies, and strategic savvy to confront the supernatural enemy. Frankly, those players on Jon, Dany, and Tyrion, with a little help from Greenseer Bran. 2) In the endgame, Arya’s best chance to contribute is to lead the Wolfpack with Nymeria. The direwolves are creatures of Ice and could be very helpful in decimating the horde of Undead. So I hope the showrunners will give Arya back her magic…Westeros survival may partly depend on it.

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    105. Flayed Potatoes,

      I agree. I under the time limits and difficulty of showing the conversations between Jon and Sansa and John and whomever regarding his resurrection. I guess it would be like the story of Christ showing Thomas his wounds, that would probably be the only way someone would believe. So I can understand how it might create difficulty scene-wise and continuity-wise in lingering on it. But to make almost no effort except one throw away line from Brienne?

      So I’m left to wonder if it makes any difference in the long game.

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    106. Ice Spider,

      1. I’d be more inclined to think this if it weren’t for that bit in the trailer with Brienne in the boat. I’d like to see this happen but not sure if it will.

      2. This is plausible, but I still think it was Ramsey who wrote the letter.

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    107. Chuck:
      Ice Spider,

      But wouldn’t Ramsay want Jon to know that he had Rickon? Otherwise what’s the point, who else can he turn to to ransom Rickon? He assumes Sansa went to the wall after he found out she escaped.

      The LF is plausible but Ramsay would have sent a letter anyways I think.

      I think Ramsey would want Jon to know that he has Rickon but my bets are on LF writing the letter. The evidence for me is too great and I know that D&D always drop nuggets to us and that to me was a nugget… I know that others feel one way or another so wanted to see how many were on the LF train since that dialogue was brought to our attention..

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    108. Ice Spider,

      I’m firmly of the mind that Ramsay wrote the Pink Letter. I thought it was some of his best work – very poetic and poignant. I love the repetition and rhythm of “Come and see.” But that cliche is not unique to any one person. In Season 5, Cersei tells Qyburn to tell Tommen to “come and see” his mama in the big house, but she didn’t write the Pink Letter, either.

      And we saw a man in Bolton arms deliver the PL.

      I have no idea what will happen in the Riverlands, but I hope that Brienne solemnly swears to be up to no good before she sneaks into the castle via the river.

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    109. Ice Spider:
      Back on subject… a few questions…

      So questions:
      1. How many believe that RR will go into the hands of Jaime and the Frey’s bc Tully’s and company decide to go and help the Starks and fight against the WW?

      2. How many believe that the Pink letter is really written by Little Finger?

      Answers:

      1. I don’t think so.
      2. I think Ramsay wrote the Pink Letter.

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    110. Also… is it just me or is anyone else just a little miffed that Jon/Sansa/Davos haven’t given more impassioned speeches about the NK and the whole walking dead army coming their way? I mean I would be like ….. look … you are either with us or dead … I just don’t understand the whole nonchalant attitude they are having right now in trying to align Northern alliances. If I had seen what JS saw I would be doing my damnedest to convince them to join forces. Just seems a bit weak to me which is disappointing. Couldn’t bringing WunWun along for the talks convince them of magic being back in the world?

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    111. Miss Stark,

      I agree. Brienne’s look was to me one of horror at what she was seeing … I would guess the storming of RR by the Lannisters and Freys. They are celebrating in the trailer so it must be a great victory. Of course I believe that a former FM may help Lord Walder choke on his laughter in episode 10. This one can only hope. 🙂

      If there is a battle, it is interesting to me in how that differs from the book resolution (as how Jamie’s arc in general differs). I’m interested in seeing how Jamie’s arc vis-a-vis Cersei plays out as the full ramifications of “I choose violence” become apparent.

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    112. Ice Spider:
      Also… is it just me or is anyone else just a little miffed that Jon/Sansa/Davos haven’t given more impassioned speeches about the NK and the whole walking dead army coming their way? I mean I would be like ….. look … you are either with us or dead … I just don’t understand the whole nonchalant attitude they are having right now in trying to align Northern alliances. If I had seen what JS saw I would be doing my damnedest to convince them to join forces. Just seems a bit weak to me which is disappointing. Couldn’t bringing WunWun along for the talks convince them of magic being back in the world?

      They are not good at bringing these houses to their side. I understand the writers not making it instantly easy for them because it would be cheesy. I thought Jon, Sansa, and Davos would have come up with a better argument after Bear Island.

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    113. Ice Spider,

      I could gather that even the Northern houses believe the WW are gumpkins and snarks – imaginary beasts. House Mormont may be different only due to the former Lord Commander. They are between a rock and a hard place – if they emphasize the magic, they may be thought unhinged, if they don’t, they don’t present the full case for action. Frankly I don’t blame the Glovers for rejecting them given everything that has transpired. We, as Jon did, see the bigger picture. Everyone else is focused on their individual issues. Classic case of not seeing the enemy until it is too late.

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    114. Rhaegar the Barbarian:
      The director of the episode said Ramsey sent the Pink Letter.End of discussion.

      Yeah.. ok like no one has ever lied before huh? Sure… nothing is the end of the story until its shown on the show.. geesh

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    115. Ice Spider:
      Also… is it just me or is anyone else just a little miffed that Jon/Sansa/Davos haven’t given more impassioned speeches about the NK and the whole walking dead army coming their way? I mean I would be like ….. look … you are either with us or dead … I just don’t understand the whole nonchalant attitude they are having right now in trying to align Northern alliances. If I had seen what JS saw I would be doing my damnedest to convince them to join forces. Just seems a bit weak to me which is disappointing. Couldn’t bringing WunWun along for the talks convince them of magic being back in the world?

      I mean they can go running around alerting everyone of WW, but look at what happened to the guy waaaay back in season 1 episode 1…No one believed that guy, considered him a deserter, and Ned chopped off his head. Go around telling everyone you saw WW AND came back from the dead….I’m sure many would skeptical. Plus, they do have more than one army to worry about. So I feel like they’re doing their best to show us that they are recruiting houses to take Winterfell, and in the tiny print (lol) fight the NK+WW after.

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    116. In the season’s trailer, a bloody hand leaves a mark on a wall.

      I think it is Arya, leading the Waif to her secret hidding place where she will kill her with Needle… and it is going to be in tonight’s episode.

      What do you think?

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    117. Ice Spider: I don’t know how I feel about HBO cancelling the show. In one instance I agree out ofrespect to the families and lives lost, on the other I’m not sure we should because this just shows those (bleep) that they can affect our lives and Im so against that.

      I live in Port St Lucie, where the shooter lived. I have similar feelings to yours. I refuse to give those cowards any power over me. I won’t enjoy the show tonight as much for sure, but that’s all they get from me. Peace.

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    118. Darkrobin:
      Ice Spider,

      I could gather that even the Northern houses believe the WW are gumpkins and snarks – imaginary beasts.House Mormont may be different only due to the former Lord Commander.They are between a rock and a hard place – if they emphasize the magic, they may be thought unhinged, if they don’t, they don’t present the full case for action.Frankly I don’t blame the Glovers for rejecting them given everything that has transpired.We, as Jon did, see the bigger picture.Everyone else is focused on their individual issues.Classic case of not seeing the enemy until it is too late.

      Yes I understand the Glovers stance.. and I agree on the “blind sided” attitudes of people BUT Im just saying that Jon/Davos could have made more impassioned pleas for what has taken place and it just seems like that is not happening. I understand the story line is NOT quite there and that people do not realize the dangers but good gravy if it was me up there trying to convince some folks I wouldn’t have given up so easily.. esp Jon. He’s seen the worst.. he could have told them the Hardhome story.. at least TRY…

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    119. Jack Bauer 24: Should HBO have postponed GoT tonight, especially considering the big “I choose violence” bit and the Faith Militant will be featured?

      When we stop doing the things that we love on account of terrorists, we are letting the terrorists win.

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    120. jymion:
      Ice Spider,

      I said in an earlier post and i’ll say it again cuz ppl keep tending to ignore it. There will be a time soon where jon snow will have an epic speech but needs more people to be present for it…and it will culminate in him taking off his shirt and telling them how he died for them…prolly episode 10…..so…..keep ur shirt on..:)

      Lol… I hear you…. I hear you..

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    121. HeHeldThatDoor,

      I think the Lannnisters might be more on the ball than the Freys 🙂 But yeah, it is a good idea otherwise and I don’t mind it if Im wrong

      Dragon Tender,

      Given that Broadway has long celebrated and championed LGBT rights, I can understand why they might want to delay that show.

      They also did after MLKs assassination and a few others that I can’t remember. Wouldn’t surprise me. If they don’t I expect lots of the winners and presnters will be mentioning it in one way or another

      Ice Spider,

      Seriously, wasn’t the guys who received their training in flying commercial airplanes here, enough to send up flags to our govt that these ppl are infiltrated in our communities. Sick to my stomach over it.

      They were also in phx; they just wanted to be trained to fly the planes, not to land. No one thought that odd….I do share your frustration, when the people who are suppossed to keep us safe fall down on the job. (I know the FBI and law enforecment has a hell of a job, and are often between a rock and a hard place trying to do whats right. Still…maddening Hang in there.

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    122. weirwoodtreehugger,

      They are slowly releasing the names, it may be a while before we know. It is all very surreal.

      Thank you… the outpouring of care and concern worldwide is amazing; the local support from all communities has been even more so. The lines for blood donation are in the hundreds.

      As for postponing the episode tonight, no, I don’t think it should be postponed – no matter tonight’s content, imho. GoT is fantasy and sometimes the escape into tv fantasy shows can be helpful. So many fans record the show for later viewing and it would be sad to miss that. I’m not sure I want to watch tonight, but I am recording for when I’m ready and needing that respite from the terrors of the real world. (My own on demand service can be iffy.)

      (Side note: I’ve been tending a very sick cat for the last two weeks – which seems almost trivial in the light of the deaths today – but this cat has been with me for 11 years, through thick and thin, and it’s been emotionally draining. The stress of dealing with the financial end and the waiting for news while she was in surgery and watching for meds to take effect was greatly relieved by this and other GoT sites. WotW has been a welcome distraction and escape, for me at least, providing a much needed breather when all I could do for much of the time was to wait.)

      Sorry for the off topic – it’s been a difficult day.

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    123. Ser Christos of House Spekktra: I mean they can go running around alerting everyone of WW, but look at what happened to the guy waaaay back in season 1 episode 1…No one believed that guy, considered him a deserter, and Ned chopped off his head. Go around telling everyone you saw WW AND came back from the dead….I’m sure many would skeptical. Plus, they do have more than one army to worry about. So I feel like they’re doing their best to show us that they are recruiting houses to take Winterfell, and in the tiny print (lol) fight the NK+WW after.

      VERY TINY print at that.. and how about even hiring a speed speaker to go over details of WW and Wights? Lol.. you know the ppl who do auctioneers and can talk a bazillion words in a minute?

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    124. Firannion: When we stop doing the things that we love on account of terrorists, we are letting the terrorists win.

      This needs to be said, more often and everywhere.

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    125. Sacred feces! The excrement is preparing to make a hard impact on the rotating ventilator blades. I can barely contain myself. Two hours to go!

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    126. ash,

      Well my frustration and anger is mostly directed at our current govt. NOT the FBI. I know their hands are tied. I can’t even discuss politics on here bc I will just lose it. This was needless and senseless and it could have been prevented by some common sense laws. Really it’s NOT that complicated. If you are associated with terrorist groups you do NOT have access to guns legally. I understand getting guns illegally on the black market will NOT stop these ppl but at least make it a bit harder on them.. smdh.

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    127. Ice Spider,

      s

      it just me or is anyone else just a little miffed that Jon/Sansa/Davos haven’t given more impassioned speeches about the NK and the whole walking dead army coming their way? I mean I would be like ….. look … you are either with us or dead … I just don’t understand the whole nonchalant attitude they are having right now in trying to align Northern alliances

      No its not just you. I wish they’d made a bigger deal about the resurrection and some one (Davos maybe) gave Jon the suggeston that this is why you were brought back. Davos gave a bit of a peech, but not much. Having it come from Jon much strongly would do much I think to at least wake them up a bit to see that its not all fairy tales (and as I’ve said before, too bad Jon didn’t get a selfie with the NK would have solved all our problems) 🙂

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    128. Angela: They are not good at bringing these houses to their side. I understand the writers not making it instantly easy for them because it would be cheesy. I thought Jon, Sansa, and Davos would have come up with a better argument after Bear Island.

      I know I get it.. just think even if they wouldn’t have convinced them they could have tried a bit more..

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    129. Ginevra:
      Ice Spider,

      I’m firmly of the mind that Ramsay wrote the Pink Letter.I thought it was some of his best work – very poetic and poignant.I love the repetition and rhythm of “Come and see.”But that cliche is not unique to any one person.In Season 5, Cersei tells Qyburn to tell Tommen to “come and see” his mama in the big house, but she didn’t write the Pink Letter, either.

      And we saw a man in Bolton arms deliver the PL.

      I have no idea what will happen in the Riverlands, but I hope that Brienne solemnly swears to be up to no good before she sneaks into the castle via the river.

      Well it should be interesting.. why do you think the seal by Ramsey was yellow in an earlier season and pink in this one? Was that just a slip up on the production team?

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    130. LL of Darkwater,

      Sorry to hear of your beloved pet. I hope she gets better!! Enjoy the respite the show will give you even if it’s for a brief period. I think we ALL need a respite from the real world we deal with. Sad heart and sad countenance for the life we have created for our children and children’s children.

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    131. The North has just been through one hell of a time due to Robb’s war as the Glovers show us. Being told the WW are coming is not want the North needs to hear. Like the Nights Watch the North don’t have Jon, Ed and the Wildings knowledge of Hardhome. After all it was lack of belief in Jon’s action that got him killed by the NW.

      Jon needs a base and Winterfell would be that in the fight back against WW. Plus it would be the place that Arya and Bran would eventually head to.

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    132. Ice Spider,

      Typical tin foil response. He gained absolutely nothing by lying, and if you watched the interview, it was an honest response. He could have easily said, “watch and see” or something ambiguous, but no, he flat out said there was no trickery there, the letter is what it said it was, from Ramsey. Haven’t you seen enough this season to realize that the large majority of tin foil theories are wrong and WAY more complicated than what is actually happening. Keep telling yourself LittleFinger sent the Pink Letter, and start holding your breath right now for that big reveal, which will never come. The letter will never be mentioned on the show again.

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    133. jymion,

      Mmmm, interesting. I hope you are right. Curious, why are you so sure?

      Firannion,

      I so agree. I hate what we have to go through to fly anywhere, I hate flying now. I get it, but damn …..

      Jaynee D.,

      Hee, thanks for the laugh!

      Ice Spider,

      I hear you, but we probably need to keep politics out of here. Aside from it taking away from the excellent discussion, there’s so much of it out there that I’d like one no politics zone for a a few hours 🙂

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    134. Ice Spider,

      I’m with you on that. It’s interesting that the show has taken a very Northern house anti-Stark position whereas the books have the Northern houses divided. It’s a conscious choice. Until TWOW comes out we won’t know how it fully plays out in the books (after the Boltons and allies likely defeat Stannis and allies if the PL is to be believed, what happens then for Northern support of the Stark cause).

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    135. Laura: Careful with that kind of talk around here. People here are psychotically Anti-LSH – even those who ha

      “psychotically Anti-LSH”, huh?

      Nah, some of us weren’t that impressed with the plot thread in the books, and there were issues doing it at all, even if they did it 3 seasons ago. If they did it now, they’d have to (1) flash back to the Red Wedding, (2) show the BHWB finding the Late and Decaying Catelyn Stark, (3) show Thoros of Mir bringing her back, and (4) show WTF she’s been up to in the interim.

      I don’t care how they’d do that, it’s still going to take a third of an episode to get through that exposition, and I don’t even see how they get any naked girls and/or boys to soften the blow of it.

      And in the end, there’s no more pay-off now than there would be 3 years ago.

      So, no, not “psychotically”. For reasons of plot and storytelling, Fair Catelyn stays dead.

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    136. Dragon Tender,

      So, no, not “psychotically”. For reasons of plot and storytelling, Fair Catelyn stays dead

      .

      Yep. And yeah we may be ‘psychotically’ but we do generally know how to spell

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    137. Ice Spider: Well it should be interesting.. why do you think the seal by Ramsey was yellow in an earlier season and pink in this one? Was that just a slip up on the production team?

      I never remember a yellow seal. Which episode was that? The seal on the show always looked more red than pink to me, but perhaps George intended the shade of pink to be closer to red, the color of a flayed man. I cannot imagine the Bolton’s colors being the colors of Julia Robert’s wedding: “My colahs aehh not pehnk and pehnk: they aehh blush and bashful!”

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    138. LL of Darkwater:
      Rafael,

      Thank you, it will be a very long time for healing here in Central Florida.We are all in shock.

      Just want to say I have been watching CNN pretty much all day, since the first reports. I didn’t sleep well and woke to hearing 50 dead. Oh my God…so horrible what hate will drive people to do. I know it might not seem like it now but the small glimmer of hopefulness in all of this is seeing how involved and compassionate the residents appear to be. Seeing people rally together is just such a testament to the spirit of community. Orlando and the victims are in my thoughts.

      Sending prayers to Connors family as well.

      I am excited for the episode but I think we can all agree there is such a heavy, dark cloud over us today.

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    139. J,

      Per Sean C in a post above:

      Yes, both Brienne and Jaime know. Quoth the latter in 404: “It was reforged from Ned Stark’s sword. You’ll use it to defend Ned Stark’s daughter.”

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    140. Just a bit if speculation.
      If SF is the shadow and a FM perhaps he was hired by LF to deal with Ned but instead desired that was not the right thing to do. If it turns out he is alive will he tell Arya about Balish.

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    141. ash,

      Oh I know..that is why I didn’t talk about specifics. Whatever I said was broad. I won’t talk politics on here bc I hate that. I agree this format is not for current political conversations. 😉

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    142. Connor,

      There are no words for what you and your family endured. My thoughts are with you and your family. Deepest sympathies from me here in Ireland to you and yours. Life is cruel sometimes. Remember the good times you shared, it’s how you find the light when times get dark. x

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    143. Work Mom,

      Thoughts and prayers to you also…hard to see so much personal pain in the posts this time…

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    144. Sam:
      GiantFinger,

      YES.And I believe Nymeria is leading a large, powerful, dangerous wolfpack.Not Direwolves like her but regular wolves.

      Wouldnt it be cool if Nymeria and her pack roaming the Riverlands get into the Frey celebration we’ve seen in the trailer to get their own Red Wedding version of revenge for Gray Wind. . . And others.

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    145. Guys guys, idk if anyone has noticed, but the bloody hand from Bran’s vision, it’s not Ned’s on Lyanna, it’s Arya’s!

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    146. Simon,

      And that just blew my mind a little bit. I actually just created an entire plausible theory that included LF/IB/FM/NS based on this in five seconds-and then I deleted it because noooooo
      🙂

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    147. People who watch leaked episodes and talk about them here even knowing they’re not supposed to are such assholes. Luckily the comment got deleted before I saw it. Although there’s another one that mentioned it now but I skimmed over it. So now I have to leave this site until airtime too.

      To all the nice people, see you in a couple of hours.

      To all the people who think it’s cute to spoil things for people, eat a bag of dicks!

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    148. RG,

      SF has been doing a lot of press. We’ll know soon enough.
      Wh is IB. It’s 10 in the morning here but my brain hasn’t turned on yet.

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    149. Spoilers from the actual aired episod are not permitted in this post until after the episode officially airs at 9PM EDT.

      That’s what it says up above. Clear as day. Some of you know better. You can wait an hour. Or go create a post in the forums tucked away where no one will be spoiled.

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    150. Ginevra,

      Hahaha.
      I’ve been lying low all day trying to avoid any spoilers from this episode, log on here to peek and see if it’s safe, and the first thing I see is a link to the leak.

      Of course, getting the link removed doesn’t prevent certain assholes from trying to be cutsey and making allusions to what happened in the episode. *facepalm*

      Edit: I see those have been deleted, too. Thanks, Sue. If you wanna remove my comment on them being assholes, go right ahead (like you need my permission…lol). It won’t change my mind that they’re assholes, though. 🙂

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    151. Oh well. I like to hang out here preshow and while it’s airing. However it seems some who’ve seen the leaked episode are intentionally trying to spoil the ep for the rest of us. Later Watchers.

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    152. imjustsayin,

      If only Walder Frey had mentioned wolves when he mentioned the BF, the BwB, etc. It would have made me happy, but unless it pops up surprisingly next season (as the Sparrows did in season 5), I think the wolfpack is book-only.

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    153. RG,

      Of course. I was thinking people not institutions.interesting I have been wondering what their game was and if LF was there agent also. Hostil take over after causing stocks to fall smacks of insider trading and rigging the game.

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    154. Here’s hoping tonight Arya finds out what’s really been going on behind the scenes, and the Waif is revealed to be “No One” and finally and irrevocably scrams.

      I mean, there is something going on behind the curtain, isn’t there?

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    155. Connor,

      I’m totally hoping that there is a reveal like that for this episode but I kind of doubt it!

      That being said, I can’t wait until tonight’s episode!!!!! I want to see what happens with Arya, Tyrion, the Faith M, and the Hound!

      Only twenty minutes left!

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    156. I don’t know if this has been brought up before but did anyone check out History Channel’s new docudrama Barbarians Rising? The first episode featured Clive Russel & Ian McElhinney as barbarian chieftains advising the “main characters.” It was a joy seeing them in similar roles.

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    157. kells:

      I am excited for the episode but I think we can all agree there is such a heavy, dark cloud over us today.

      NO….HELL NO – I was down there when the towers came down, covered in dust and all kinds of shit. No dark cloud. We will carry Orlando in our hearts and enjoy our shows and laugh and sing as we always do.

      They cannot win – Fuck them.

      Enjoy the show everyone.

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    158. Jack Bauer 24,

      Took me a few seconds to get what she meant, and I see her point on an emotional level, but delaying the air date wouldn’t do anything. I’m watching an Alan Ladd movie on TCM from the 1940’s that is more violent than some GOT episodes.

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    159. Ice Spider,

      We aren’t getting them because it seems the plot needs to have them be underdogs for LF to save them with the Vale army. That means that the Northern tour has to be somewhat of a failure and things they should logically say and do don’t happen. 🙁

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    160. gewa76,

      Exactly. That’s what saved her. I guess the scenes last episode were like the Jamie/Cersei “rape” – the director didn’t see what many of us saw.

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    161. Jamie and Brienne gave me the feels. Makes the fact that I’m going to have 3 hours of sleep before work tomorrow worth it. It’s 2.30am in the UK!

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    162. Ser Pounce FTW,

      My guess is wildfire that Aerys put under the Great Sept and/or Red Keep when he intended to burn the city down. I believe Tyrion was told of these by one of the pyromancers.

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    163. IMO Olenna will unleash Gendry as a means to nullify the illegitimate Tommens decree about Loras and trial by combat too

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    164. Ser Pounce FTW,

      Cersei has said at least three times that she would burn down cities for her children …

      plus in the books she takes too much glee at the burning of the Tower of the Hand and some other stuff

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    165. Darkrobin,

      That part I knew. I just thought there was something about the little birds looking for something in an earlier episode.

      Sad day for the Tullys. Edmure’s sold his soul 🙁

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    166. Beric Dondarrion is alive and kicking and Catelyn Stark is as f***ing dead as her idiot son

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    167. “A girl is Arya Stark of Winterfell. And I am going home.” I cried when she said this. Go home, girl!

      I’m still hoping the Blackfish didn’t die and was saved by his men.

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    168. Underwhelming at best. I blame Martin for this. Beric still alive. Arya super hero strength in a day after being brutally stabbed. Worse episode of the entire series. IMO and am almost never as critical

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    169. Worst episode of the season and perhaps one of the worst of the whole series. None of it made any sense. Area’s storyline was a total waste of 3 years of my life. And poor Essie Davies. 🙁

      So did that sad departure mean that Tyrion and Varys are never going to see each other again?

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    170. I am Arya Stark of Winterfell and I’m going home!

      Literally whooping from the couch at that. Loved seeing Beric and Thoros. 2 hype trains derailed tonight (LSH and Cleganebowl) and Edmure Tully proves he is still a huge bitch.

      That preview tho. Cannot wait.

      Also, if you think D&D aren’t ridiculous trolls – how many times did they say Catelyn in this episode or refer to her in some way? At least 12. Hate those guys lol.

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    171. You can tell they spent all the money on the battle of the bastards some really weak scenes with people dying off screen.

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    172. This episode was awesome
      Loved the comedy
      Kinda cheered when cerseis man killed the sparrow. The after the events at river run I cannot wait till every last Lannister fucking dies
      Yes to the hound and the brotherhood. So psyched for the return of thoros and Beric!!!

      YAAAAA ARYA STARK IS GOING HOME
      AND DANY IS BACK – she looks pissed off ! Was hoping to see some dragon action.

      Epicness

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    173. That was easily the weakest episode of an otherwise terrific season. I liked the BwB scene, and the stuff at Riverrun,but everything else was…just weak, especially for an episode 8. The best scene in the Arya story was the opening one with Lady Crane, and it just steadily went downhill from there. Even the chase scene was underwhelming. It actually made her entire Braavos adventure seem rather pointless, and left a gaping plot hole from last week. Other criticism: Man, they have utterly run out of things for Tyrion to say and do. His scenes just seem to be spinning wheels now, though I kinda liked Dany appearing in time. Eh…maybe it was the events in Orlando knocked the wind out of me today. But I don’t think I’ll be watching this episode much. At least next week looks like it lives up to the hype.

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    174. Hah! The REAL BwB has stood up! Lemoncloak hanging and the Hound taking his boots then bantering with Beric and Thoros was classic.

      I was hoping for a bit more surrealism with Arya’s tale but oh well, she survived and Jaqen trained her well.

      RIP BF (really?)…FUCK that!

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    175. Already the same people that seem to always say an episode sucked saying this one did too. Surprise! I continue to wonder why they still bother – with the show AND posting here. Just to make the experience worse for others I assume.

      The Arya plot went pretty close to how I thought it would/should all week and I thought it was fantastic. None of that bs face changing shit that doesn’t fit with how the FM work to begin with. Goodbye and good riddance to the Waif.

      I’ll write more in the recap after additional views.

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    176. My review:

      What I Loved:

      What I Liked:

      What I Disliked:

      What I Hated:
      -Predictable Arya story ending
      -Lame end to siege of Riverrun including no Blackfish death
      -All of Mereen
      -The Hound revenge arc was lackluster after last week’s brilliance
      -The Mountain cartoony death scene

      Meh after three very good episodes, I really hated this one. Lot of filler, lot of nothing interesting happening. Endings I didn’t like to good story lines i.e. Riverrun and Arya. Tyrion’s time as King of Mereen ended up being a total disappointment.

      The worst part about it was Arya for me. I predicted the very ending that happened in another thread, she’ll kill the light and then beat the Waif in the dark. At least they spared us showing it since it was so predictable. I really loved the House of B & W story and it seemed to be a complete waste of time.

      This episode cements this season as being my least favorite. The last two episodes will determine how far below season 5 it is.

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    177. What; were some of you expecting Lady Stoneheart or the CleganeBowl this episode and are pissed that you didn’t get it? I’ve been more critical than most of the creative decisions this season, but I didn’t think this episode was THAT bad.

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    178. I have to say, and I hate to say it, but that (for me) was the all time worst ever episode of GoT. Corny, clunky, ridiculous, wow so disappointed right now. And I usually scoff at comments like this. Is it just me? That just didn’t work for me on any level. So many problems….maybe it’s just me, I must be in a weird mood. I’ll watch it again tomorrow.

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    179. I liked it. Riverrun turned out exactly like the novels.
      Excellent that Brothers are going north.
      Was Jaqen smiling at the end?
      Wanna know what the mystery with Qyburn is. Wildfire? Something to do with Marg?
      I’d expected Dany to go to Volantis for its navy, but it seems mountain came to Mohammed.
      Varys to Westeros…poor Westeros.

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    180. Mad Queen Theory Confirmed! lol its the only way she will be able to beat the F.M.

      YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS ARYA!!!!!! A GIRL IS SOMEONE!

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    181. ash,

      Yes, the only difference from the books is that Edmure delayed turning over the castle to give the BF time to escape. Both involved a trebuchet/catapult But Edmure was played a little more sympathetically. I guess they needed to leave more time for Braavos.

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    182. Feeling kind of let down, but I think it’s also because with so few episodes left and then a year off, I just exact the episodes to be really great and it was just….whatever.

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    183. Hey guys, managed to watch this episode tonight. It helped grt my mind off of what happened. I agree this episode was disappointing but after watching episode 9 preview, I don’t care lol. Beric is back!! And Thoros. So yaya

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    184. Underwhelming at best. I blame Martin for this. Beric still alive. Arya super hero strength in a day after being brutally stabbed. Worse episode of the entire series. IMO and am almost never as critical. Also Sans a seems to have told Jon about LF, which like I said instead of she trying to play Jon was more about her not wanting anything to do with LF. And like I said, no one else knows the little weasel. So I hope all the crying stopped

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    185. I enjoyed the episode. Thank you to the masters for saving us from more bad jokes.

      Looks like Jaime set the proper perimeters. 😛

      Glad Brienne still has the sword. I was annoyed she wanted to give it up.

      Arya leaving just like that seems convenient, but at least I don’t have to worry about her getting killed by FM while in Westeros?? Idk the whole thing was confusing.

      I’m sad the Blackfish didn’t go with Brienne. Jon could have used an experienced military commander since Robb took them all with him. I wonder if Jaime is keeping Edmure alive. He doesn’t need to, since Edmure has a son now. Have the Tullys been taken prisoners with Edmure again, or were they killed like the Blackfish? Too bad it was an off-screen death.

      Dany’s random arrival was hilarious. The show isn’t being subtle at all about her taking the throne and kingdoms though. Some suspense would be appreciated. It feels so predictable…

      I guess we know where Dany’s getting some new ships from now and who burned hers in the first place (o hai Volantis, or whatever that flag on the ship was). 😛

      I would have loved a scene of Sansa telling Jon about the Vale army though. It would have fit nicely with all the mentions of her this episode.

      I liked the little talks about the betrayal aspect in the RW. Too bad we didn’t get any of that in the North. It’s like the North forgot the Boltons are also responsible for killing their families.

      I also liked the scenes with the Hound and the Brotherhood and their talks about WW and resurrections. I wish these talks had happened in the Northern storyline.

      Also Torrienne >>>> Jaimienne 😛

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    186. They have dropped Catelyn’s name so many times this season, mostly in this episode….

      I just knew LS was going to be at the hanging of Lemoncloak….

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    187. Ravyn,

      +1 spot on. I as hoping there for a moment that Lady Crane was an evil fucker and that was why the House of B & W sanctioned the hit, but alas everything just went as expected.

      And yeah Tyrion’s good bye scene to Varys was awful and the joke scene with Missandei and Greyworm was only a little better than the previous one (though still awkward as hell).

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    188. Loved the episode. Now things are really moving again.

      I like that the riverlands stuff was close to the books.

      LSH is no more thanks to Beric being alive. They kept that well hid.

      A shame that LadyCrane is dead so clearly there will be no traveling troop.

      Love the set up for Cersei’s trial. No one can say they didn’t see trial by combat being banned coming.

      We’ve also set up the battle for slavers bay and that of the bastards. Looking forward to seeing those black sails on the horizon. Shame BS isn’t around to lead the charge.

      In some ways we’ve really only got to the end of ADWD and the start of WOW. So the book remains largely unspoiled.

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    189. People thought this was a weak episode? Certainly wasn’t from where I’m standing. Actually I thought it was really solid, especially that ending.

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    190. Nadia,

      Really? I actually enjoyed it. It confirmed that Jamie is nothing but an ass and must die a painful death and that Arya has all the intentions of going home. Next week’s looks awesome then again to me Jon= awesome. ?

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    191. Ghosts Lunch,

      Cersei, the Mountain and Qyburn are going to abduct Tommen, take him out of the city, and probably to the Riverlands, where Jaime and the Lannisters are. Once they’re gone from the city, her order to the pyromancers will be implemented: burn them all.

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    192. Well, my initial thoughts…

      Very disappointed in this episode. Some very cool things sprinkled in here and there but overall wasn’t feeling this episode at all.

      I like the Arya stuff although you have to suspend your brain to believe that a few bandages and milk of the poppy would heal Arya’s internal organs being severally stabbed through several times.

      Also, I think D&D found clever ways to cop out of many things we all wanted to see, and were waiting for.

      Like a battle at Riverrun, how convenient Edmure did Jaime’s bidding. An epic Hound battle scene? Nah, lets have him stumble across some idiots at a camp and just behead someone. They also found a way to cop out of any cool Assassin’s Creed Arya stuff, just have her run and stumble a bit and blow out a candle. I waited 7 weeks for that???

      I hate to be Debbi Downer but this episode was the weakest of the season IMO.

      Extremely disappointed, oh well.

      Next week Miguel is directing so hopefully we will get some cool payoffs.

      It just seems to me that I was waiting for some cool payoffs this episode but apparently D&D decided to think of clever ways to write these payoffs so they wouldn’t be as epic as they should of been.

      I bet they sure did save some money and production time though!

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    193. RBloodworth,

      I wasn’t expecting either. That woman appearing has made no sense for some time. Clegane brothers will fight at some point I think but not as part of any trial by the faith. There is unfinished business between the two of them. This assumes that the Mountain survives the KL episode 10 but I believe that as others have stated Cersei leaves for Casterly Rock with the Mountain and Jamie and other converge on her there.

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    194. Jaime was so gracious to Brienne. I thought he’d be a beast to her and demand that sword back, at the very least to give to Tommen if not to keep for himself. So, even with Cersei back in his blood, his affection for Brienne prevailed and obviously must have been very true. I’m shocked but charmed by that.

      Sad about Lady Crane. Happy at Arya’s proclamation that she IS Arya Stark and she’s going home! Wary of her surviving her wounds, plus the pain of them, with no milk of the poppy or special potions – unless, at the end in the HoBaW, she drank from one of those wells, the healing well, and it healed her. Could anybody tell for sure if that’s what she did? Because if she didn’t and she’s making the trip home wounded, then all hail plot armor. Jaqen’s little smile at the end was excellent, though. This means the Faceless Men won’t be scouring the earth for her, I guess.

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    195. maria: Wanna know what the mystery with Qyburn is. Wildfire? Something to do with Marg?

      I thought it was the Tyrell’s role in Joffrey’s murder, but considering the timing of Qyburn’s words, it must be the rumors about the cache of wildfire stored beneath the sept. Qyburn’s words seemed to be aimed at consoling Cersei, that all is not lost. Any other rumours – such are Dany and her dragons, Tyrion at Meereen, Kevan and Pycelle conspiring against Cersei, Tyrell plot – are irrelevant to be mentioned at that specific time with that specific result in Cersei’s face.

      Thronetender,

      Tommen has Widow’s Wail. No need for Oathkeeper too.

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    196. HereBeDragons:
      I’m Sad :o(

      For the 1st time in over 70 episodes… I feel like D&D have treated me like a fool.

      1. This was only the 58th episode.

      2. This was the first time?

      3. You must really be a fool

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    197. Seven hells that preview tease for next week (spoiler for those who don’t like previews):

      How am I supposed to wait that long? *sigh* Did you guys see where he tells Mel if he dies not to bring him back again. We’re finally going to get that conversation. And he looks sad and worried in these shots. Almost about to cry in one. Some of us know what he’s looking at and damn but it breaks my heart.

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    198. Hmmmmm…Blackfish and Waif died off screen?

      Arya got gutted last episode i can’t really believe she would be jumping and rolling around and then walk out of the HoBaW on her own not even limping…

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    199. I love the episode … Arya was great … I’m Arya Stark. I’m going home … Please, please … Let her get home save in episode 10. So sad about Lady Crane.
      I knew those killers weren’t part of the brotherhood … So cool the Hound joined and he is going north. I suppose all hope of Lady Stoneheart will be finally put to rest.
      So, the epic scene of episode 10 is in motion … very interesting.
      The Riverrun part was a disappointment because the Blackfish died. But the farewell of Jaime was nice…
      The preview for episode 9 is great too, so cool, and so sad the season is almost over.

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    200. Omg guys this episode was great and all, but anyone have a synopsis on that episode 9 preview?? I seriously hope Jon wasn’t referring to himself when he said, “thousands of people don’t have to die, only one of us”

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    201. Cameryn,

      Me too! I cheered when Beric and Thoros appeared, and I loved Ayra’s story and all of the Riverrun scenes. Jaime and Brienne’s relationship has been so beautifully written and portrayed.

      Now that I’ve seen the preview for next week, I am HYPE.

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    202. That was pretty bad…..

      So arya did just let herself get stabbed.

      Killed waif offscreen

      Killed blackfish offscreen

      Hound randomely found everyone

      Brotherhood had random rogue division that killed sept people?

      Lady crane had absolutely no purpose

      Arya is the terminator

      Brienne going to riverrun had no purpose

      Its like the writers ran out of story material……oh wait

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    203. Nadia,

      Me too At least with Aryas arc. Arya did it herself, but Lady Crane patching her up was not going to fix her and the rest of it felt like she was a superwoman (which she is granted). I loved that she made it back to her place, and she fought with no light, and loved her final speech to FM but yeah, I was expecting more magic, more slight of hand. Well Jared was right when he said he’d just be satisfied if it was all just a simple plot, nothing twisted or extravagant. Ah well

      Loved the scene with Beric and Hound, perfect. And the look on Cerseis face when she realizes what Tommen has done.

      The riverrun thing was just sad. I get that Edmure wanted to protect his child, but my god……And seeing all those soldiers laying down their arms I kept thinking ‘don’t you know there are WW coming? Go North, young men!

      Dany’s entrance was so anti climatic. Did the dragon burn the ships? Did we see that? I dunno need to think more.

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    204. Brienne knows that Oathkeeper was forged from Ice, the Stark family sword, and that it is a Valyrian steel blade at a time when those blades are rather vital to the War for the Dawn, and she was about to give it back to the Lannisters? The hell?

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    205. I loved it! Yes the plot holes in Arya’s story line are huge and disappointing, but she ended up in the right place. She’s going home!

      Love the Hound with the BWB
      Cersei has no choice but to burn the city down now!
      The writers truly have no idea what to do with Tyrion anymore. Good to see Dany home, but why was Drogon flying away again? Or was he going to burn some slavers?

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    206. A bad Game of Thrones episode is still a great television episode.

      And this wasn’t even a bad GoT episode. I loved it.

      Next weeks episode looks even better.

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    207. Pigeon:
      Oh Jaqen and Arya were the best part of that episode. That little smile….I knew it. Will miss Tom so much!!!!

      Absolutely!
      That ending, while I had hoped to see a brutal fight, was pretty fantastic. I loved the last line…and you’re right! That face Jaqen made was awesome. I actually got goosebumps.

      Loved the Sandor stuff but he is my favorite. I know Bronn usually gets the quick quips, but Sandor is so damn matter-of-fact and dry. Rory’s delivery is so spot on. Negotiating with Beric on how many he gets to kill? Seriously…that was great.
      I know people called it, Sandor joining up with the Brotherhood, I just didn’t think it would happen at all. Figured his arc would go in a different direction but still think he will join up with Arya eventually. Maybe the BwB will escort her north.

      Enjoyed every moment of the Blackfish and liked the Brienne/Jaime initial reunion (that little wave to/from the boat was so cheesedick) and Edmure/Jaime stuff. Moment of humanity and then quickly back to being an asshole.

      Sad to see Lady Crane’s fate. The Dany return was awful. I think that is the story I am least vested in but that reveal felted patched together at the last second. The low point for me.
      There was lot’s of good dialogue and some stinkers in there.
      The end Arya and Sandor stuff made it worthwhile, otherwise it was okay. For a longer episode, I think I expected more movement. Not as bad as the season premier (and that wasn’t bad, just underwhelming) but falls behind all the others this season.

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    208. Kasi:
      Omg guys this episode was great and all, but anyone have a synopsis on that episode 9 preview?? I seriously hope Jon wasn’t referring to himself when he said, “thousands of people don’t have to die, only one of us”

      Sounds like he’s trying to challenge Ramsay to a 1v1.

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    209. Young Dragon,

      But then,there was that line in Jaime’s speech about how she/Cat would “burn cities to ash” for their children. And wouldn’t it just be poetic if Jaime had saved KL from Aerys’ “burn them all”, only to have his sister torch the place. This is what keeps me betting on wildfire.

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    210. I could nit pick a lot, but what really bugs me is that Dany’s hair always perfect for someone who has been riding a dragon…

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    211. HereBeDragons:
      I’m Sad :o(

      For the 1st time in over 70 episodes… I feel like D&D have treated me like a fool.

      This was the 68th episode, right? And how did D&D treat you like a fool?

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    212. Oh that trailer for next week.

      If I fall, don’t bring me back.

      Oof.

      I don’t understand why some people think Arya’s time in Braavos was a waste. Don’t you realize this was the plan? Think of what she brings back with her now. Damn.

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    213. ygritte,

      It took forever to happen, but it’s happening. First of all, I want him to find out about the Vale.

      I want to give him a hug. And tell him to shut up and let Melly resurrect him how many times she wants lol.

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    214. Honestly guys, not to shit on S5 too much but this ep was way better than any ep last season barring the last 3 and S5 ep 5. This ep really wasn’t bad imo. Maybe people overhyped the Arya stuff.

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    215. Monchis,

      Really has nothing to do with Jon or big battles. They could have done things better. There’s nothing wrong with being disappointed in an episode of Game of Thrones.

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    216. The Hound’s little wink to the audience when he said “no I prefer chicken” so fucking annoyed me. Really, that’s what this show has become? Winking and nodding to the audience?

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    217. Ravyn,

      Man, they have utterly run out of things for Tyrion to say and do. His scenes just seem to be spinning wheels now,

      Totally agree. Tyrion should be smarter than this. The masters are burning the city, and he is sitting around teaching them to drink and make jokes.

      Oh wait a minute – what ships were those? Were they Iron Born? I didn’t think to look.

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    218. Bravos=new Dorne…

      This episode may have officially killed the #hype for cleaganbowl. The hound is heading north. No trial by combat for cersci… But the hound is gonna end up with Heartsbane. You heard it here first lol… He’s always wanted some Vylrian steel.

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    219. Darkrobin,

      Yeah. It felt a little rushed and anti-climactic. After that great speech by BF last episode, saying they have 2 years, etc., etc. And then 24 hours later, he’s dead.

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    220. Can’t hold it. Love the show but this episode was a complete SHIT. Maybe, except of the BwB which was sort of OK on the background of everything else. 1) Arya! I understand that the plot required her to be wounded to meet with Lady Crane once more but these stabbings into the gut would have been fatal under any normal circumstances!!! If she had to be wounded the injury had to be of lighter sort! 2) Cercey’s Franken-mountain killing a faith militant and no-one reacts (OK, maybe, Tomen’s decision to ban the trial by combat was a reaction but in such case it was poorly played IMHO). 3) Riverrun!!! OK, it’s a book cannon but threatening to sending a half-Frey legitimate heir of Riverrun by trebuchet was silly and if the Blackfish retook Riverrun, his men had to be loyal to him and not Edmure who was presented as a looser since we first saw him. No way, they would have obeyed his command to surrender. And the Blakfish’s refusal to come to help Sansa and Jon and Rickon! If he had to die due to the plot, D&D could have thought of something more believable – for instance, the Freys and/or Jamie could have slayed him and his men outside the castle after they left relying on their promise… And Brienne waiving good-by to Jamie was totally out of… I don’t know what. In general this was the first episode of GoT I didn’t like at all. Hope, some comments will help me to see something positive in it.

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    221. Pigeon,

      It’s more the fact of how it ended, not the fact that she’s going back. It was completely uninteresting and predictable to a story line that was filled with mystery. Maybe D & D don’t have the chops that I thought they had.

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    222. I wonder what rumors Qyburn heard. About Joffrey’s death?

      I wish the Riverrun storyline had lasted longer (by starting earlier in the season). It’s a good storyline. Shame.

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    223. I liked the episode. Thought it was better than the previous two weeks.

      Braavos was a complete failure in the show(some would say in the books too). So I’m happy to see Arya be rid of that place.

      Finally, once and for all we have an answer about Lady Stoneheart. She is officially cut. Interesting that they are setting up the Hound to be a part of the fight against the WW. Now, if he would just get back together with Arya. I don’t care how Hollywood that would be. I want it to happen.

      I loved the Riverrun scenes, except for Jaime’s continuing devotion to Cersei, but I’ve long ago come to the acceptance that this is where the show is going with Jaime. I know why they are doing it and why they excluded the valonqar part of Maggy’s prophecy, and it is to up the surprise factor for what will eventually happen.

      Cersei is going to burn that city to the ground and I can’t wait for Jaime to find out.

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    224. LatrineDiggerBrian:
      The Hound’s little wink to the audience when he said “no I prefer chicken” so fucking annoyed me. Really, that’s what this show has become? Winking and nodding to the audience?

      I felt the same about Jamie’s “The things I do for love”

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    225. Well, that preview makes up for the disaster this E8 was. All about Jonny Boy front and centre and the battle looks insane. I hope it is all in the North and I do not have to suffer through the Mereen stuff.

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    226. Hoyti Von Totiy,

      Why don’t you wait until the series has ended before you make blanket statements like “her character is pointless” ? Until you know how it ends you’re guessing.

      Nick Hartley does not sow!

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    227. I don’t believe the BF is dead…And anyone else think the hound was going to look up while pissing in the river to see Pod and Brienne sailing by? LOL

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    228. I never comment here. Ever. However, an episode that bad has me just reeling.
      1.) Why even introduce the Blackfish? Pointless. He better have escaped.
      2.) Arya learns NOTHING in seasons of training w/ the FM by going out in no disguise and trying to book a ship back home? Now she has superhero ability to take a stabbing? What was the point of the whole FM stuff??!! Sorry. Just too dumb on more levels than I can write about in one post. Sorry.

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    229. First episode I’m quite disappointed in. The Arya storyline has some huge plot holes in my opinion. The initial attack that caught her off-guard…. seriously wounded her… but still let her be able to jump, run etc. in no time… It really was bad writing. Suprised and my little hurt that the writers apparently trow logic out of the window. Kinda insulting to the intelligence of the audience actually. Really didn’t like the way it played out. I had hoped for a more heroic end for the BF also. Or even better: him joining Brienne and Pod… *sigh*

      Rest of the episode I did like. Sandor, the BWB and the anticipation about how “the rumors” in KL will turn out. 🙂

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    230. Ravyn:
      That was easily the weakest episode of an otherwise terrific season. I liked the BwB scene, and the stuff at Riverrun,but everything else was…just weak, especially for an episode 8. The best scene in the Arya story was the opening one with Lady Crane, and it just steadily went downhill from there. Even the chase scene was underwhelming. It actually made her entire Braavos adventure seem rather pointless, and left a gaping plot hole from last week. Other criticism: Man, they have utterly run out of things for Tyrion to say and do. His scenes just seem to be spinning wheels now, though I kinda liked Dany appearing in time. Eh…maybe it was the events in Orlando knocked the wind out of me today. But I don’t think I’ll be watching this episode much. At least next week looks like it lives up to the hype.

      These are all valid criticisms, except that I don’t believe that Braavos is necessarily pointless. Arya has proven that she knows how to put on a face, and in this episode, she shows she knows how to take one off – albeit without taking the time to clean it up. As long as she isn’t missing any of the magic in between, the ability to take the face of any victim you’re willing to kill holds huge potential.

      Could you elaborate on last week’s plot hole? I feel it doesn’t all fit together very well, either, but I’d like to hear your perspective.

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    231. It cracks me up how people come up with these big elaborate and complicated tin foil theories, from LHS to Arya switching faces/wearing blood packs-being saved by SF…, and then they act all whiny when their stupid fan fiction doesn’t make on screen. We have 15 episodes left in the entire series…and people want the freaking Clegane Bowl…are you kidding me? They hit a ton of plot lines and brought some much needed closure to the Arya plot. The peices are moving, and we have Brienne, The Hound w/ the BwB, Arya, and Wun Wun all heading toward Winterfell…if you can’t get behind and get excited about that, you’ve wasted 6 seasons of watching the wrong show. My only gripe about this episode was they should have shown the BlackFish’s final fight. Although, even there, they cleverly excused it as a fight that might end embarrassingly for the BF as he said he hadn’t had a proper sword fight in years, so perhaps I’m best left with the legend that was the BlackFish.

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    232. Not the worst, not the best; Still a better episode than the average and better than EP06, and on par with EP07. Definitely pivotal, and it sets up the last two episodes (aside Arya’s plot, which currently seems like the only one that seems to have concluded).

      I wonder if The Faceless Men arc was just a one moment thing to serve as an experience for Arya or if that’ll play another role sometime later, because it felt like that Braavos story was more of a trip than play a larger role to the story. I suppose it’s still too early to tell.

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    233. LatrineDiggerBrian:
      The Hound’s little wink to the audience when he said “no I prefer chicken” so fucking annoyed me. Really, that’s what this show has become? Winking and nodding to the audience?

      Martin does this so much in the books that I quit reading them.

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    234. Wasted so much time with the BWB fingering each other’s asses (literally) and terrible jokes in Mereen but couldn’t even give Blackfish 20 seconds to kill some Freys and die on-screen. “I choose violence” scene was a dud too. Worst episode of the season.

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    235. Very disappointing episode. I’m sure everyone will be upset about no Cleganebowl. Not surprised though. It seems they may hack The Hounds plot as badly as Jaime’s has been. Beric is alive which means a definite no on LSH. Maybe the books will have a Cleganebowl.
      Speaking of Jaime, perhaps my biggest disappointment was we didn’t actually see the expressions if Jaime and Brienne seeing each other for the first time, their lacklustre conversation, and continued regression of his character compared to it’s transformation in the books. I was really hoping seeing and talking to Brienne again would set him back on course.
      So glad the whole FM travesty of a storyline is done. Show Arya gained nothing from it except an apparent superhero healing ability. I’ll be glad to read her continued character advancement through her real training that has been happening in the books. Not even going to comment on the Waif being the most obvious and messiest “assassin” ever.
      Is the Blackfish really dead? No body, yes, but the Frey man told Jaime and he certainly wouldn’t have a reason to lie about it.
      Despite no Cleganebowl I am really looking forward to the Wildfire in the Sept scene. And if its underneath the rest of the city….well, there won’t be anything for Jaime to go back to.

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    236. Sam,

      I expected a quick reversal. Show!Jamie did about the same thing as book!Jamie did with Edmure … they didn’t have time for the singer to sing Rains of Castamere … while part of me hopes that the BF escaped, he died as he wanted to die fighting for his castle

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    237. LatrineDiggerBrian:
      The Hound’s little wink to the audience when he said “no I prefer chicken” so fucking annoyed me. Really, that’s what this show has become? Winking and nodding to the audience?

      If that really “so fucking annoyed” you then your threshold for annoyance is comically thin.

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    238. Laura:
      I am Arya Stark of Winterfell and I’m going home!

      Literally whooping from the couch at that. Loved seeing Beric and Thoros. 2 hype trains derailed tonight (LSH and Cleganebowl) and Edmure Tully proves he is still a huge bitch.

      That preview tho. Cannot wait.

      Also, if you think D&D aren’t ridiculous trolls – how many times did they say Catelyn in this episode or refer to her in some way? At least 12. Hate those guys lol.

      Omg! They even made Clegane piss in the stream which I felt was a massive F-you to LSH (like telling us to stop bringing it up lol)!

      Wow! I put so much thought into Arya’s stabbing, and it turns out she literally got stabbed and slept it off. Lmfao!!! This is how GoT makes you overthink things!

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    239. Danny,

      100%. I was underwhelmed mainly because of Arya’s story and not because I wanted some theory to be wrong or right but because of the brutality of her stabbing and how she was able to run around, even that brutal fall down those steps. That alone could have killed her.
      F it in any case you’re right about Jaime. Doesn’t care about anyone, or any oaths. All he wants to do is get back to banging Cercei. Hopefully the bad pussy kills him

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    240. Jack Bauer 24,
      Waif is def dead. I’m not convinced that Blackfish is dead.

      the siege of Riverrun works out pretty much like this in the novels–Jaime threatens Edmure, who enters Riverrun and lets the Lannisters in. Edmure also allows Blackfish to escape

      aabe,
      I’d thought of wildfire as a crazed Cersei committing suicide and taking the Keep with her, but she could be planning on escaping ahead, maybe with Tommen, then taking her enemies out.

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    241. This episode and last episode killed my fears that the series was moving at too breakneck a pace, and wouldn’t stop, slow down, develop characters, and build for future story lines. It sounds like a lot of people wanted epic payoff after epic payoff, but instead, we got more a bit more subtlety than we’ve come to expect. Great stuff. And that Episode 8 teaser…wow. Sapochnik closing out the season is a dream come true. Hoping for a grand slam with 9, followed by a solo homer with 10 (which is usually more subdued).

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    242. CC,

      Ah ha that would have been hilarious! Far funnier than Tyrion’s recent jokes. Speaking of which, was it supposed to be humorous the way Dany entered the room cause I got a chuckle out of it. Tbh I’m curious for the first in a long time about Dany because I want to see her personality now. I have a feeling she has changed and that Tyrion will have a moment of questioning his allegiance to her.

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    243. Flora Linden: Here’s the Episode 9 preview

      Who say’s, “Thousands of men don’t need to die: only one of us”? And why? Are they proposing a Bastard Dual to replace the Battle of the Bastards? But it doesn’t sound like Jon or Ramsay.

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    244. Sad the Blackfish and Waif died off screen. I wanted hype.

      I need the Hound to reunite with Arya and go North to Winterfell. He knows LF betrayed Ned *wink* *wink*

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    245. Jon dont need more men…he needs Arya Fookin Stark to come home!!

      After all the crazy shit I second guessed would happen to her, turns she is just a BADASS!!!

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    246. Where are R&V? Having dessert? They should be out and about, terrorizing and shit. Are they waiting for big brother to come home, like good little dragons?

      Instead, we get jokes from the pyramid sharkjumpers. Ugh.

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    247. Kamali,

      OK buddy at this point, from looking at your avatar I’m realizing you’re probably like 12 years old so I get why it’s funny to you. To each their own.

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    248. Very good episode!
      loved the Jamie/Edmure scene..spot on for both actors

      Jamie and Brienne waving goodbye to each other..i was like “AWWW.” then I was like “guuurrl, you bout to become #1 on the Cersei hit list..get your ass back to Turmond” lol

      Rip Lady Crane..

      Thse last 8 episodes in Bravos were worth getting that last 30 seconds “a girl is Ayra Stark of winterfell, an I am going home” even Ja’quen was slightly impressed

      Was happy to see that Lem and Sidekicks werent acting on behalf of the BwB..Yea Beric and Thoros!! and was quite excited to hear that the BwB is looking North.. means The Hound is gonna be merging into the North story line so he may be back for a while…off topic.. was Rory’s accent always that pronounced? It stood out tonight for some reason.

      I would have liked a little bit ..more.. with Dany’s return to Mereen…
      it really is time to wrap that up and get her to Westeros so she can actually get a story line with some substance

      and Kings Landing…oohh boy..gettin ready for the ‘splosions!!!! Seeing Cersei all smug after Frankengregor killed that Sparrow and then the next scene with that total put down by Kevan and Tommen saying “no more trial by combats” and not even looking at her as he leaves was PRICELESS ..then Qyburn telling her the Wildfire was REAL…ooohh yyeeeeeaaaa!

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    249. Darkrobin,

      The Lannister men confirmed he died to Jaime. You think they were lying? He wasn’t trying to escape, he was trying to go out in a blaze of glory.

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    250. Beer Island,

      What people are missing is that the Waif disobeyed Jaqen’s order: “Do not let her suffer,” he said. She stabbed Arya in the gut, so that she would die slowly. Arya gets away, and gets healed (no idea how much time has passed at that point).

      The Waif’s cruelty and hubris brought her down. Sure, it’s a tad hard to believe Arya could be James Bonding off rooftops and such. But she has been well-trained to take a lot of abuse (not to mention that the milk of the poppy may have helped dull her nerves). Don’t fully buy it, but it’s reasonable.

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    251. I think the episode was great, it is very easy to jump to conclusions people forget its a series not a movie, this is a set up to a great many plot lines. The Hound joining BWB, Jamie Declaring for Cersie, Queen Denerys arrives and finds the City f***ked,. regardless of what people say this needs to be said this season or next, so i am sorry if everyone likes people dying and crazy twists all the time. I loved the episode and cant wait for the next.

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