Game of Thrones Season 6 Episode 3 – Oathbreaker – Open Chat

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Game of Thrones Season 6, Episode 3 “Oathbreaker”

Writers: David Benioff and D.B. Weiss
Director: Daniel Sackheim
Runtime: 53 minutes
Content Warnings: TV-MA: Adult Content, Adult Language, Brief Nudity, Violence
Video Preview: Full episode 3 preview on YouTube

Synopsis: Daenerys meets her future. Bran meets the past. Tommen confronts the High Sparrow. Arya trains to be No One. Varys finds an answer. Ramsay gets a gift.

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    1. *

      I can’t wait for this ep tonight – I am counting down the hours. Enjoy everyone! Bookreader friends, we’ve been waiting for this moment for years, some even a decade plus! It’s all happening! Yes, I know maybe not *this* episode but it’s so close.

      * Proud member of PNMH – People for No More Hodoring!

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    2. My prediction on beginning of the episode: jon snow walks out the room naked and proceeds directly to melisandre to have sex

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    3. Does anyone else share my concern that perhaps the ToJ scene will be split over numerous episodes and will seem disjointed?

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    4. For Mother’s Day, I asked my husband to take our kid to the movies so I could watch at airtime in a quiet house. I’m basically a monster.

      I think I’ll film myself while I watch, just to see if I look as ridiculous as I feel watching this season (I hope it’s not just me).

      MUCH EXCITE. VERY HYPE.

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    5. It will be an absolute joy to watch this episode. After last week’s stellar episode, I’m hoping it will be another superb episode, and with what we have seen so far, I think it might very well be!!!

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    6. steffan:
      My prediction on beginning of the episode: jon snow walks out the room naked and proceeds directly to melisandre to have sex

      He waits for 1 hour in the room until someone brings him warm clothes.

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    7. Kingbreaker,

      All of ToJ within a single episode would be a bit overwhelming for some, I think. More casual viewers just won’t be able to digest it all. If build-up is done properly, I believe splitting up the scene would actually help its case.

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    8. Happy Mother’s Day! 🙂

      Let us hope the mother of everyone’s favorite bastard makes herself known tonight!!!

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    9. WUN WUN:
      My wild theory is That Varys is going to die by sons of the harpy because he will find out the answer.

      someone:” Meereen is under attack of Sons of the Harpy … ”
      Euron suddenly on screen: “I am the Harpy. And I am Meereen”

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    10. teunteulai: He waits for 1 hour in the room until someone brings him warm clothes.

      What if he’s not cold? What if he’s full of the hot love of the Lord of Light?

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    11. A friend who has never watched the show is arriving from afar tonite. So now he begins to love the Thrones, or now it ends! 😀

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    12. Tommen couldn´t confront Ser Punce let alone the High moralizing Sparrow. Looking foward to seeing how that works out LOL

      —————————–
      Remember we also get Ep4 preview today/tonight

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    13. I am beside myself thinking of what we’ll see in this episode. I am trying, however, to temper my expectations, just in case, for whatever reason, we don’t see all of the ToJ in this episode.

      I think what has me most giddy is the thought of my step-father getting to see it. He’s fully Unsullied…hasn’t read the books, knows nothing about filming spoilers (ok, he knows about McShane appearing at some point in the season…he’s the one who talked me into watching Deadwood many years ago), and knows nothing about any fan theories.

      I am so excited for him!!! ?

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    14. Nymeria Warrior Queen,

      Based on episode descriptions of a future episode, I think they’ll split up ToJ with the big reveal stalled. It’ll be interesting to see how they do it, because at this point, everyone kinda knows what’s in that tower, right?

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    15. Should be a great episode, purists will keep whining about the ToJ scene though. And the critics will continue to complain about the pacing.

      Get hype nonetheless !

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    16. What if they split the Tower of Joy Flashback and show parts of it in multiple episodes? Explanation could be that the three eyed crow doesn’t want Bran to “drown” in his visions.
      Pretty scared of that right now.

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    17. Nici,

      The Tower of Joy part II will be in Episode 5, it is known. We’re only getting part I tonight. I don’t mind that at all.

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    18. Kingbreaker:
      Does anyone else share my concern that perhaps the ToJ scene will be split over numerous episodes and will seem disjointed?

      Yes! even worse- the whole scene WILL play out but there will be no confirmation that the baby is JS for-like-ever! and then the crazy theory machine will go into overdrive. lol

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    19. This is going to be a fun one. I mean, every episode of this remarkable show is fun, but on the heels of last week’s all-time great hour, this one has a chance to be special. Whether it’s seeing the newly-revived Jon take action or the fabled Tower of Joy sequence (in full or in part), we’ve been waiting a long time for this. 🙂

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    20. I have a feeling people are going to bitch about them not showing the full Tower of Joy vision. And that one little thing is changed from the books about Dayne not having his sword Dawn.

      Oh boy.

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    21. Lyanna Forever: What if he’s not cold? What if he’s full of the hot love of the Lord of Light?

      Dunno, where would he get all the blood to be warm, since he lost every drop ? Real magic

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    22. I’ve come to realise that I’m not that interested in Jon’s story, so this episode probably won’t be that interesting to me. Looking forward to the E4 preview, though.

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    23. Everything seems to point to ToJ being split so people should prepare themselves accordingly.

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    24. Ravyn,

      Having gone back to reread the couple of future episode descriptions we have, I see what you mean. I also think, however much many of us just want it all right now, it could make sense to split it up, and, yes, if that’s how they do it, it will be interesting to see both how they split it up and how they get the pertinent “surrounding” information out there. Someone made the point it may be a bit too much for truly Unsullied to digest in one episode, and that makes sense. Those of us here have had so much time to think about it, talk about it, speculate about it, but for those who don’t have the benefit of the time we’ve had, not to mention all the background info., it may be best to deliver the information in a couple of doses.

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    25. Game of Thrones Facebook posted a video for tonight’s episode, it’s the shot of Jon getting up from the table, so it starts with Jon.

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    26. Nymeria Warrior Queen,

      I don’t object if they split it up, especially if there’s more to the reveal than decades of speculation has been able to suss out. Somehow, I always feel as if we should really see the reveal through Jon’s eyes. And at the end of the day, it’s all about execution.

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    27. HYPED!! Again fighting a battle to stay awake until 3 am. I must be crazy. Bring it on!

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    28. Connor:
      There is literally someone spoiling the whole episode and nothing is being done about it.

      I just think no one is around to do it right now. 🙁

      I keep scrolling past his posts but I know others are going to end up getting spoiled by this idiot. Please no one quote him or anything. I am sure someone will take care of it shortly.

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    29. Since they were mentioned in the previous episode, do you think we’ll see the Glovers and Manderlys this season?

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    30. Not feeling this one guy…don’t know why. It has the potential to be great or controversial. We’ll see how it plays out, let’s hope it will be the former.

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    31. I’m guessing the mods here can’t spend every second constantly refreshing the comments section of each article just in case some asswipe decides to show up and start posting spoilers. I hate the idea of reporting anyone, but when it comes to something like this, oh well, I’m ok with feeling like a narc.

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    32. I will come back in half an hour… good thing I clicked the jump to the bottom…

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    33. Flayed Potatoes:
      Since they were mentioned in the previous episode, do you think we’ll see the Glovers and Manderlys this season?

      I actually do. I’ve tried to never get my hopes up about Wyman Manderly because I love the character. Even after the very Manderly-esque casting call, I still was unsure. But mentioning the name in the last episode sealed the deal for me. We will get a (very brief) but epic Wyman Manderly. I think he will have a Karsi kind of episode. A one episode character who makes a big impact on fans. I would be so happy if the Manderly house words were finally revealed as well.

      Not sure about the Glovers but I could see them being in the scene with Davos/Sansa at Bear Island.

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    34. Deesensfan,

      How the fuck did this even happen anyway? How do we know he’s not just bullshitting?

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    35. Flayed Potatoes:
      Since they were mentioned in the previous episode, do you think we’ll see the Glovers and Manderlys this season?

      Hoping against hope for Wyman Manderley!

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    36. Laura,

      Hope they bring back Mark Coney to play Galbart Glover, just to get a nice reminder of the season 1 bannermen.

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    37. Deesensfan,

      I don’t know. Fortunately, I read the “someone is spoiling everything comment” before I read whatever the dude was posting. I mean, I started to read his first post, but then alarm bells starting going off in my head, I blurred my vision (hahaha), and started scrolling down.

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    38. Next time someone tries to do that, try using Contact sooner.

      But let’s move on, okay? It doesn’t help if people keep posting ABOUT what he said and giving the troll attention. Thanks.

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    39. I predict

      the death of the Night’s Watch traitors by beheading – chop, chop, chop. Jon does them all with Longclaw. Olly is saved for last, and he gets the Beautiful Death poster. Let the boy die and the man rise.

      I didn’t see what the spoilers were up above. And now that they are gone, I’ll put my prediction in spoiler quotes. I don’t want to find out I was right or wrong until tonight!

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    40. I am hoping the closing credits include

      noted character actor, Ed Fetchme, credited with playing “a block”

      .

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    41. I have a feeling they’ll cut the scene as Ned approaches the door and then the episode titled “The Door” will be him opening it to reveal the secret (Bran reaches to the door and then the Three Eyed Raven pulls him back or something like that). Splitting it like that makes a lot of sense, story-wise.

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    42. steffan,

      steffan: steffan:
      My prediction on beginning of the episode: jon snow walks out the room naked and proceeds directly to melisandre to have sex

      And a shadow dragon is born !!!

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    43. ToJ will be split. Beinoff and Weiss are giving Martin every extra day possible to get Winds out.

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    44. Will there actually be 3 different Lyannas during this season?
      1) Young Lyanna at WF
      2) Dying Lyanna at ToJ
      3) Mummer Lyanna in Braavos

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    45. Jack Bauer 24,

      This is my most anticipated fight, more so then the red viper vs the mountain 🙂
      Don’t the split, just want a good episode, and Tower of joy fight 🙂

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    46. steffan:
      My prediction on beginning of the episode: jon snow walks out the room naked and proceeds directly to melisandre to have sex

      Hahahaha – 😀 😀 😀

      Yeah, Jon goes to her room with a huge ‘hard on’ and give her the best rodger’n she’s had in a thousand years! Just hope for Jon’s sake Mel’s wearing that necklace or taken that potion that keeps her looking young LOL 🙂

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    47. I was thinking about this while out fishing yesterday (amazing how the serenity of fishing clears your mind) Anyway here it is:

      1. Starts off with Jon waking up and maybe the ladies get a butt shot of him i can see it now (the butt meme’s that broke the net)

      2.. Bran see’s and we get TOJ V-1.0 And get to see Lyanna Stark, It is Mothers day after all, then it hit me. E-9 is Fathers day and I would not put it past HBO to hold out on the child reveal until then.

      3.. Dany gets to the Temple nothing more nothing special unless Captain Friend-Zone and Loverboy save her but damn that would be a lot in one episode, im not to enthused for Dany tonight.

      4.. Varys should be interesting and hope it finally puts to rest who the leader of the Harpies is.

      5. The gift at this point is obvious and why ive been worried for some time about the show going to hollywood predictable. Oh but im going to say right now I think Littlefinger is the one who helps supply the gift somehow… just hoping for a suprise.

      6. Sansa arrives at the wall and we fade away to credits and preview.

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    48. Excited for this episode – some random thoughts.

      1) Stannis might be the “Gift” tonight.
      2) Sansa is pregnant – Happy Mother’s Day.
      3) A much darker Jon will execute Olly and Thorne.

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    49. Someone, please, help me with a question related to splitting up ToJ. If it were split, wouldn’t all scenes from the ToJ have to be shown during Sackheim directed episodes?

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    50. Tigger,

      Maybe Sacheim directed the outside the tower parts, and Bender did the inside? Those two scenes don’t necessarily need to have the same director I don’t think. But I know *literally* nothing about show production.

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    51. Mustangride:
      I was thinking about this while out fishing yesterday (amazing how the serenity of fishing clears your mind) Anyway here it is:

      1. Starts off with Jon waking up and maybe the ladies get a butt shot of him i can see it now (the butt meme’s that broke the net)

      2.. Bran see’s and we get TOJ V-1.0 And get to seeLyanna Stark, It is Mothers day after all, then it hit me. E-9 is Fathers day and I would not put it past HBO to hold out on the child reveal until then.

      3.. Dany gets to the Temple nothing more nothing special unless Captain Friend-Zone and Loverboy save her but damn that would be a lot in one episode, im not to enthused for Dany tonight.

      4.. Varys should be interesting and hope it finally puts to rest who the leader of the Harpies is.

      5. The gift at this point is obvious and why ive been worried for some time about the show going to hollywood predictable. Oh but im going to say right now I think Littlefinger is the one who helps supply the gift somehow… just hoping for a suprise.

      6. Sansa arrives at the wall and we fade away to credits and preview.

      I think we’ll see Drogon fly over tonight since that shot from the trailer looked like it was on their way to the temple.

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    52. Kingbreaker,

      Given what they did with Maggie’s Prophecy in S5e1, I’d be VERY surprised if they showed the events AFTER the TOJ fight in THIS episode – I thought they’d show the rest of Maggie’s Prophecy sometime in Season 5, but they never did. That being said, part of me thinks David & Dan are saving the big reveal until GRRM first reveals it himself. So don’t get too excited for a reveal this season, R+L=J fans!

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    53. I think we’ll see Drogon fly over tonight since that shot from the trailer looked like it was on their way to the temple.

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    54. Ser Clintalot:
      Kingbreaker,

      Given what they did with Maggie’s Prophecy in S5e1, I’d be VERY surprised if they showed the events AFTER the TOJ fight in THIS episode – I thought they’d show the rest of Maggie’s Prophecy sometime in Season 5, but they never did.That being said, part of me thinks David & Dan are saving the big reveal until GRRM first reveals it himself.So don’t get too excited for a reveal this season, R+L=J fans!

      I think they are waiting for Martin too.

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    55. Ser Clintalot,

      That could be next season or after. The show will finish before the books are so at this point they cannot sit on their hands waiting for George anymore. Many things will have to be done that it would have been preferable to George to reveal but it wont be the case.

      The Books are the Books the show is the show. And the show being what it is they already have all 10 Eps ready to go and are not waiting on George its going to happen on the shows time now.

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    56. steffan:
      My prediction on beginning of the episode: jon snow walks out the room naked and proceeds directly to melisandre to have sex

      No better way to celebrate coming back to life than getting laid!

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    57. Blanche Holstein,

      You’re gonna let him watch the third episode of SEASON 6 without having watched any of the show before? That’s pretty messed up! It’ll spoil everything if your friend ever decides to go back and watch from the beginning!

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    58. One of Bronn’s good impregnators,

      I can’t wait to see the text he sends me after the episode. The one he sent last week, which I didn’t see until Monday morning, ’cause I forgot to turn my phone back on after the episode, was so cute! It still tickles me we get to share something like this, especially given he’s almost 80!

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    59. Blanche Holstein:
      A friend who has never watched the show is arriving from afar tonite. So now he begins to love the Thrones, or now it ends!

      Make him drink every time there is a dickless character on screen.

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    60. Jack Bauer 24,

      I think they went to great lengths leading up to this season to keep as much as they could for GRRM to tell on his own terms. Reading about all they did to try and keep Jon’s fate from being a certainty reinforces that idea, to me. Had the book come out before the season began, it could have been told in Martin’s way, first…including what we’ll be seeing this episode, but that didn’t happen.

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    61. Kingbreaker: Does anyone else share my concern that perhaps the ToJ scene will be split over numerous episodes and will seem disjointed?

      Eh. The ToJ was split up in the books too. I think we’ll get what Ned remembered in his fever dream this episode, then the aftermath and official revealations in E5.

      At least, unlike the books, it’d be only two episodes apart, not five novels apart.

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    62. They’re not waiting for Martin in the slightest. He had his chance and he blew it. This is the only ending we’re getting of ASOIAF. Martin is probably close to finishing TWOW by his own standards, but close by his standards could be several years. No one knows how fast George will write, including himself, so to wait for him would be absolute madness.

      If fans really believe that D&D will hold up events at this stage of the series to wait for George they are deluded as he is.

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    63. Connor:
      There is literally someone spoiling the whole episode and nothing is being done about it.

      Because the least we can do is NOT identify it. Those who know, already know and those who don’t know, don’t know the difference.

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    64. Geralt:
      Or a dick joke, seems like there’s more to come.

      I was hoping that Pod would discuss the Meereenese Knot with Theon by the fire before he left. 🙂 (So cruel)

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    65. I got halfway through the comments and saw that someone was trying to ruin things with spoilers – thanks for the warning friends.

      I just jumped to the bottom.

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    66. Just checking NowTV works for streaming the show at 2am and there’s something on called The Tunnel: Sabotage. Who should I see as soon as the playback loads? Stannis! Very weird seeing him not in GOT gear!

      So excited for tonight!!!

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    67. reek,

      It will be one of the weakest of the season, the second half and the next two episodes looks way better on paper. Especially these storylines : Arya, Dany, Meereen, King’s Landing, Bran and Sam.

      You guys are expecting too much from this one.

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    68. Knight of the Walkers,

      The abuse GRRM gets on his Twitter now whenever he posts anything not GoT related (which is almost exclusively at this point) makes me wonder why he even bothers., especially when your own fans call you a “dick bag” for letting the show spoil all your story highlights.

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    69. No offense but they are NOT waiting to reveal Jon’s parentage. It might not happen tonight, but it’s happening this season and likely very very soon. Homeboy had 5 years to beat them by putting out the book first. He didn’t and so it goes. This whole season is killing him but “the show must go on.”

      I certainly look forward to WoW and will devour it when it’s finished but yeah, especially with the announcement of a maximum of 15 hours after this season, the books will not finish before the show and there’s a chance WoW won’t even be out now before the show ends. Once GRRM missed that end of year deadline, it was over and the show gets to tell us the the ending. I wish it wasn’t going down like that, but I am so happy that there will be a definitive ending to the story no matter what happens with GRRM’s writing or health, etc.

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    70. Lyanna_Targaryenn:
      Tigger,

      Maybe Sacheim directed the outside the tower parts, and Bender did the inside? Those two scenes don’t necessarily need to have the same director I don’t think. But I know *literally* nothing about show production.

      isn’t he slated for episode 5 tho? or am I wrong?

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    71. All I am saying is if they break the ToJ scene/reveal into 2 episodes by leaving it as this episode’s cliffhanger I am going to be pissed.

      But it would be such a genius cliffhanger lol.

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    72. Izatty,

      5 & 6 are Jack Bender episodes.

      I also don’t know where the whole “you folks are expecting too much from this episode” chant is coming from. It hasn’t even aired yet, for heaven’s sake.

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    73. Knight of the Walkers:
      They’re not waiting for Martin in the slightest. He had his chance and he blew it. This is the only ending we’re getting of ASOIAF. Martin is probably close to finishing TWOW by his own standards, but close by his standards could be several years. No one knows how fast George will write, including himself, so to wait for him would be absolute madness.

      If fans really believe that D&D will hold up events at this stage of the series to wait for George they are deluded as he is.

      Preach.

      reek:
      https://www.instagram.com/p/BFKFFyBI1Bz/?taken-by=emilia_clarke
      foreshadowing? ?

      haha – It’s on like Khaleesi Kong! I love her – she is so adorable.

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    74. steffan:
      My prediction on beginning of the episode: jon snow walks out the room naked and proceeds directly to melisandre to have sex

      Agree with first half. he walks out naked, runs into Davos. This gives rise to Davos’s shocked look

      Regarding second part, no it shouldn’t happen cos as I said in that comment got deleted due to quoting the spoiler guy, Melisandre is Jon’s new mom. She gave ‘rebirth’ to him.

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    75. Izatty,

      The least we can do is listen to Sue and do what she asks (use the “contact us” feature and bring it to the attention of those who can get rid of them), and by doing so, have each other’s backs.

      And now I will respect the rest of what she said and stop talking about them.

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    76. Geralt,

      Yeah this one will be on the slower side + TOJ.

      Next episode will be big though. Stark reunion, Pink Letter, that Dany moment from the filming… today’s ep will mostly be reactions to Jon + his reaction to the mutineers, things heating up at KL and the Tower of Joy (which may or may not only be half-done this episode, I don’t really have an opinion on that).

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    77. Ravyn,

      Ha! You honestly think he actually uses that twitter? That’s the PR machine, friend, and GM has no hand in it. The closest you’ll find GM to social media is his Not A Bore.

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    78. Jack Bauer 24: I think they are waiting for Martin too.

      I don’t think so – there is no way HBO gives a shit about what or when Martin is doing. This show is a money making juggernaut and they have paid him a pretty penny for all of his secrets.

      No way do they wait for him, the fans won’t allow it.

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    79. Lyanna_Targaryen:
      For Mother’s Day, I asked my husband to take our kid to the movies so I could watch at airtime in a quiet house. I’m basically a monster.

      I think I’ll film myself while I watch, just to see if I look as ridiculous as I feel watching this season (I hope it’s not just me).

      MUCH EXCITE. VERY HYPE.

      I can tell you’re a great mom, and happy mom’s day to all the rest of you. I was simply hoping there wouldn’t be any baby deaths this episode… my wife had to leave the room again last week. I don’t like head smooshing, and she can’t stomach implied infanticide. I hope Ramsey’s gift is just a regular trinket, or maybe a pie???

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    80. aabe,

      I think the face that Davos has is because he is surprised to see him missing. He is gonna walk in to take the body for a pyre but he won’t find him there. The part about melisandre is just me thinking thats how they are gonna show his new ‘i have to live my life to the fullest’ change of character. But you may be right also, i’m just theorizing here lol.

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    81. jentario:
      Geralt,

      Yeah this one will be on the slower side + TOJ.

      Next episode will be big though. Stark reunion, Pink Letter, that Dany moment from the filming… today’s ep will mostly be reactions to Jon + his reaction to the mutineers, things heating up at KL and the Tower of Joy (which may or may not only be half-done this episode, I don’t really have an opinion on that).

      You’re forgetting the “gift”. Could be a huge return for someone missing since Season 3.

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    82. Nymeria Warrior Queen,

      THIS! Whatever they do will make sense to their version of the story. Quit yer bitchin’, people! Especially the bitchin’ about the bitchin’. Geesh!

      Tonight, my fondest wish comes true: A DAYNE!!

      Happy Mother’s Day, Everyone!

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    83. Not sure how they plan of explaining the ToJ sequence to the average viewer. The typical casual viewer still can’t name many of the characters in the show and they certainly have no understanding of the history and lore of Westeros.

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    84. Ashara D: Happy Mother’s Day, Everyone!

      Yes…Happy Mother’s Day to all the mamas out there.
      If you aren’t a mother, but are lucky enough to still have your mothers, please, go see them, or call them, or whatever…let them know you love them!
      For those who have lost their mamas, try and remember, or at least I’ll say what I do…I don’t like this day, it brings into sharp focus how terribly I miss her. However, I try to think of how what she’d want most for me is to live a happy and fulfilling life, so I try to rededicate myself to that idea, and thus honor her memory.

      Sorry if that sounds cheesy or preachy.

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    85. Nymeria Warrior Queen:
      Ravyn,

      Someone made the point [the ToJ scene] may be a bit too much for truly Unsullied to digest in one episode, and that makes sense. Those of us here have had so much time to think about it, talk about it, speculate about it, but for those who don’t have the benefit of the time we’ve had, not to mention all the background info., it may be best to deliver the information in a couple of doses.

      I would love if they gave us enough of the scene to cause others to speculate. My fear is that they won’t drop heavy enough hints tonight to guess what’s behind the door.

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    86. Flayed Potatoes: Maybe a sample chapter, unless Brandon Sanderson takes over ?

      As much as I love Brandon Sanderson, he so would be the wrong guy to finish aSoIaF if GRRM shuffled off this mortal coil before the series is done. Sanderson deals well with high epic fantasies. ASoIaF has way too much ultra-violence and hyper-sexuality for Sanderson’s style of writing.

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    87. Here’s something to think about with Bran’s visions, though others may have come up with this:

      What if Bran is able to see these things because of warging into Hodor, because they are not from the weirtree network, but Hodor’s memories?

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    88. In reference to .. “Now it begins.” “NO, now it ends.”

      Maybe Ned was once in on a plot to get Rhaegar to throne, maybe after being persuaded by Lyanna, not knowing of their romance though.

      Then when he heard Lyanna and Rhaegar were actually romantically involved, it wasn’t just a friendship, and she would ditch the betrothal with Robert, he backed out of his role in the Rhaegar rise.

      So “now it begins” is basically saying, now begins Jon’s rise to being a King.

      And “no, now it ends” is Ned officially backing out of the plot.

      So much of the guilt Ned feels is due to promising Lyanna that he would help Jon to the throne, not telling her that he already killed the 3 KingsGuard men and completely backed out of supporting his role.

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    89. VegoDread:
      Excited for this episode – some random thoughts.

      1) Stannis might be the “Gift” tonight.
      2) Sansa is pregnant – Happy Mother’s Day.
      3) A much darker Jon will execute Olly and Thorne.

      1. The conversation between Roose and Ramsey in episode one established that they know Stannis is dead and that his body was found.
      2. I suppose this might be possible, but if it is, she won’t find out until later in the season.
      3.Yep, this is entirely possible.

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    90. Nymeria Warrior Queen:
      I’m guessing the mods here can’t spend every second constantly refreshing the comments section of each article just in case some asswipe decides to show up and start posting spoilers.I hate the idea of reporting anyone, but when it comes to something like this, oh well, I’m ok with feeling like a narc.

      If every poster reports quickly, less of us get spoiled. I appreciate that greatly. “Do your duty. Swing the sword,” I say.

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    91. Nymeria Warrior Queen: Yes…Happy Mother’s Day to all the mamas out there.
      If you aren’t a mother, but are lucky enough to still have your mothers, please, go see them, or call them, or whatever…let them know you love them!
      For those who have lost their mamas, try and remember, or at least I’ll say what I do…I don’t like this day, it brings into sharp focus how terribly I miss her.However, I try to think of how what she’d want most for me is to live a happy and fulfilling life, so I try to rededicate myself to that idea, and thus honor her memory.

      Sorry if that sounds cheesy or preachy.

      Not at all – just heartfelt.

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    92. Truth be told i would think it genius if the ep ends with toj fighting and then we see ned entering the room seeing an unidentified woman with a newborn baby (pref one without black hair) and then it fades out. that would be really nice storytelling/cliffhanging

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    93. Does anyone have a link to share of all the content from the books pertaining to the tower of joy and related events such as the tournament with Rhaegar and Lyanna? I mean specifically the book text not the theories or people talking about all we know about it. I would like to refresh by reading the book material and can’t find a site where someone put it all together to be read.

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    94. ArrySnow,

      I agree but if that scene is the last one, they would have to reveal the ending at the start of the next episode, which obviously isn’t going to happen.

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    95. JamesL:
      Not sure how they plan of explaining the ToJ sequence to the average viewer. The typical casual viewer still can’t name many of the characters in the show and they certainly have no understanding of the history and lore of Westeros.

      Presumably Bran asking questions and Bloodraven/Three-eyed raven answering them?

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    96. Kingbreaker,

      I’m so fearful of this, but I don’t believe they’ll do it. This season is hitting the ground running in a crazy way, so I hope and believe ToJ will follow suit.

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    97. Jack Bauer 24,

      Personally I think the gift will be a defiant Theon, soon to be a skinless Theon, followed by an ‘on fire’ Theon at the battle of Winterfell. Only guesses, but Alfie Allen did have a ‘Couldn’t give a shit anymore’ approach to interviews and spoilers before the season started

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    98. Geralt,

      doesn’t actually have to be at the end. just the last we see of toj 😉 like just letting it hang there. maybe with ned looking rather astonished at the woman and the baby.
      gives the book readers something to look forward to and the unsullied to speculate over. and the big reveal won’t actually be then.
      i imagine sth like:
      scene outside toj
      scene inside
      br pulling bran back
      bran (having recognized jon and/or Lya) wants to speak about it and is rather excited but br silences him before he can spill the beans which he will later do when he sees jon

      prly just dreaming up my fav scenario here but what can a woman do? 😉

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    99. Chris:
      Jack Bauer 24,

      Personally I think the gift will be a defiant Theon, soon to be a skinless Theon, followed by an ‘on fire’ Theon at the battle of Winterfell. Only guesses, but Alfie Allen did have a ‘Couldn’t give a shit anymore’ approach to interviews and spoilers before the season started

      It’s not Theon.filming spoilers peg him at Pyke

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    100. Ser Clintalot,

      lol, he isn’t into complex fantasy type fiction so he will have to sit out on the deck and smoke for amusement 9-10PM. It can’t be helped, just the way events came together.

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    101. Ravyn,

      There’s also the stuff we don’t know about beyond the promise and what is revealed in the books. That’s what I’m waiting for.

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    102. Blanche Holstein,

      it is mother’s day all around the globe i believe 😉
      that’s why the inside ToJ would be so great today (even if we will not be told who the mysterious beauty and the child are)

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    103. ArrySnow:
      Blanche Holstein,

      it is mother’s day all around the globe i believe ?
      that’s why the inside ToJ would be so great today (even if we will not be told who the mysterious beauty and the child are)

      In Sweden, Mother’s day is May 29 this year ?

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    104. steffan,

      I wouldn’t object to watching Jon Snow have sexy time. But somehow I don’t think that will be the first thing on his mind 🙂 Eventually though him and Mel probably will.

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    105. Can’t wait for 9 pm. So many questions on what will happen. Will Jon kill the mutineers including Olly? What/who will be Ramsy’s gift. Of course how much of the TOJ will we see tonight. Meanwhile Danny’s story needs to move forward. It is getting boring. How can someone who can’t control Meereen control Kings Landing?

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    106. Pounce,

      i also wasnt aware that it wasn’t the same day everywhere… twitter is running crazy with it. interesting how it even differs throughout europe

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    107. Why do people think the ToJ will be in two parts? The credit goes to the bulk of the episode. The fact that Bender isn’t credited just means the ToJ is not the bulk of the episode am I right? Or did I miss something else

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    108. Khal Daniel,

      They must have moved the scene in Sackheim’s episode for whatever reason. I recall that Jack Bender filmed the fight scene at Castillo de Zefra. We will find out soon enough 🙂

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    109. Khal Daniel:
      Does anyone have a link to share of all the content from the books pertaining to the tower of joy and related events such as the tournament with Rhaegar and Lyanna? I mean specifically the book text not the theories or people talking about all we know about it. I would like to refresh by reading the book material and can’t find a site where someone put it all together to be read.

      Note, book spoilers abound here, but this is a very informative site on the books.

      http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Tower_of_Joy
      http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Rhaegar_Targaryen
      http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Lyanna_Stark
      http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Tourney_at_Harrenhal
      http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Knight_of_the_Laughing_Tree

      If you have the books, you can also search the cited chapters at the bottom of each webpage for more details. If you have Kindle versions of the books, you may even find more references to the ToJ, Lyanna, and Rhaegar by searching.

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    110. Pounce,

      Damn right they should!! If the show is using mother’s day to reveal a certain character’s parentage, using the uk date we’d have all found out 2 months ago 🙂

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    111. ArrySnow,

      Mother’s Day was in March this year in Scotland (and the rest of the UK) but I think we are different to most other countries which is odd because I am pretty sure Father’s Day is the same as most other places (in June).

      I have to say I have not that fussed about the Tower of Joy. I wasn’t in the books and I am not really in the show, it’s only how the news affects a certain someone I am interested in.

      Anyway KL, Dany and Arya’s plots seem to be kicking up a gear which should be good as well as the Castle Black stuff.

      This is the first Monday I have worked since the Season started so gonna have to wait to watch it at 9pm tomorrow night (and pray that I avoid spoilers!)

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    112. Pounce,

      My point exactly. I think his full ToJ scene will be in Sackheims episode. But i disargree with what you said. We WILL find out soon, but NOT soon enough!!

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    113. Khal Daniel:
      Does anyone have a link to share of all the content from the books pertaining to the tower of joy and related events such as the tournament with Rhaegar and Lyanna? I mean specifically the book text not the theories or people talking about all we know about it. I would like to refresh by reading the book material and can’t find a site where someone put it all together to be read.

      http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Tower_of_Joy

      http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Tourney_at_Harrenhal

      ahh Ginevra beat me to it. But just know that there is very little actual book material on the Tower of Joy. Most of the stuff online is everyone’s theories. There’s remarkably little info in the books about the most talked about theory in the fandom 🙂

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    114. Khal Daniel,

      I’m leaning towards Episode 5. They will make it a cliffhanger because you know…that three eyed raven likes to troll the audience. Also the picture above is kind of a spoiler if you think about it.

      I have to say that it doesn’t bother me all that much, it will be less confusing for casual viewers to understand the situation and speculate about what could happen in that tower.

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    115. Eck:
      ArrySnow,

      Mother’s Day was in March this year in Scotland (and the rest of the UK) but I think we are different to most other countries which is odd because I am pretty sure Father’s Day is the same as most other places (in June).

      Yes I think that is the case with father’s day, I remember the Tywin/Tyrion scene in “The Chidren” aired on father’s day in the UK as well as the US. No idea why mother’s day is different.

      As for TOJ, i’m excited because of the effect that the revelations will have on the story, but personally I don’t need every detail to be the same as the books. It would be impossibe to recreate the scene from Ned’s fever dream when we are watching it through Bran, but if the mood is right and the dialogue strong it should be wonderful, edge-of-your-seat viewing.

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    116. We have tornadic storms heading our way but I swear by the old gods and the new I will somehow watch this episode tonight!

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    117. Eck,

      Father’s day here is actually 5.8 …..

      And i really want to see more of Arya 🙂 can’t wait for her revenge trip.

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    118. Pounce,

      One of the perks of working with my brother – he knows I won’t be working mondays during GOT season after staying up til 3am to watch!! 🙂

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    119. Pounce,
      you actually can. sky has an online offer called skyonline (or checkout the skywebsite for it) u pay 10€ a month and have unlimited access to all series including livestreaming them when they air. you can watch as often as you want (And no i havnt watched home for like 10x already…)

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    120. Gfx:
      We have tornadic storm heading our way but I swear by the old gods and the new I will somehow watch this episode tonight!

      Don’t forget EuronDrowned God too. 🙂

      You will find a way. Good luck and be safe!

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    121. ArrySnow:
      Pounce,
      you actually can. sky has an online offer called skyonline (or checkout the skywebsite for it) u pay 10€ a month and have unlimited access to all series including livestreaming them when they air. you can watch as often as you want (And no i havnt watched home for like 10x already…)

      Sure. You haven’t. LOL 🙂

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    122. Angela,

      of course not! What do u think of me? It is not as if i wouldn’t watch it all over again just waiting for Euron to say I am the Storm and grin like a maniac after murdering his brother…

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    123. J Lee,

      Unless his reaction is just something like, “wow,” I’ll pass it along, hoping others may enjoy it as much as I expect I will. 🙂

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    124. Pounce,

      i don’t even go to sleep anymore… ha´ve to be at uni by 9am and at the stables by 4pm. i don’t get home until like 8pm but then it is off to bed immedeately…

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    125. With the disclaimer that I’m aware there is ample evidence that the Tower of Joy will in fact be split up over more than this upcoming episode…I am really all in on them showing all of it to us tonight, both for internal storytelling reasons and for external, non-story related reasons.

      I just cannot see a plausible scenario in which Bloodraven would only be showing Bran the fight outside of the Tower and not the far more substantive events that take place inside of it. A few folks have put forth the idea that Bloodraven’s comments to Bran in the last episode indicate that he can only stay in them for a certain amount of time, for reasons not explained to us the audience. My take on hearing the phrasing of why he pulled Bran out of the Winterfell vision was not because there is some arbitrary time limit to these visions, but rather that, much like warging into Summer, if Bran is not careful, he could be so enamored with his powers that he forgets to use them for the greater good.

      Provided I’m not totally incorrect about that, what purpose is there for Bloodraven showing Bran the fight outside the Tower and then ending the vision? Westeros has had any number of fantastic sword fights in its history, why pick this one if it is only to see the fight? It makes far more sense that he’d be taking Bran to the Tower of Joy so that he can show him a very important fact relating to the oncoming threat of the White Walkers, i.e. Jon Snow is not who you think he is, and he is very important in the coming struggle.

      And for non-story reasons, it’s Mother’s Day here in the US. Come on!

      I’ll withhold my judgement until the Tower of Joy is clearly wrapped up to give it a final verdict, but sitting here now on the precipice of Episode 3, I can’t think of a good reason to split up this reveal.

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    126. George: 1. The conversation between Roose and Ramsey in episode one established that they know Stannis is dead and that his body was found.
      2. I suppose this might be possible, but if it is, she won’t find out until later in the season.
      3.Yep, this is entirely possible.

      1) Misdirection – Stannis is still alive, they didn’t show Brienne taking his head – why?
      2) I don’t expect this plot so early in the season, but, it’s coming – Sansa tells Theon, “he comes to my room every night” – why?
      3) Only hoping to have a Jon Snow who wouldn’t think twice about executing Olly and Thorne.

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    127. ArrySnow:
      Angela,

      of course not! What do u think of me? It is not as if i wouldn’t watch it all over again just waiting for Euron to say I am the Storm and grin like a maniac after murdering his brother…

      Totally. That would be so awful. I would never do that either. I would never do another rewatch to pass the time before the new episode. I am not doing that right now. 🙂

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    128. ygritte:
      steffan,

      I wouldn’t object to watching Jon Snow have sexy time. But somehow I don’t think that will be the first thing on his mind Eventually though him and Mel probably will.

      OMG – I hope not.

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    129. HousePotterz,

      I have no real preference as to whether it’s split or delivered in one go, but as to the reasons for a split, what if Bloodraven intends to show it all but they’re interrupted and pulled out of the vision?? Could be a way for the show to “drag out” the reveals.

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    130. Gfx:
      Angela,

      Haha thanks! We have a storm shelter, I’m more concerned about losing power

      You’re welcome. It would suck if you lost power and unable to watch tonight.

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    131. I know a lot of people think it’s going to be split but considering it’s a Mother’s Day episode I think we should finally meet the mum

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    132. HousePotterz:
      My take on hearing the phrasing of why he pulled Bran out of the Winterfell vision was not because there is some arbitrary time limit to these visions, but rather that, much like warging into Summer, if Bran is not careful, he could be so enamored with his powers that he forgets to use them for the greater good.

      There’s that, but there’s also the fact that he’s not truly or fully there. Not unlike warging into Summer, he’s experiencing things on a different level but his living body is still where he left it. Feeding while warged in Summer, the direwolf gains sustenance but Bran does not. So not only does he lose the human part of him the longer he’s ‘inside’ Summer, his body is weakening. With his visions there could be a similar danger. He may find too much enjoyment in what he’s seeing that he no longer wants to return to his current reality where his loved ones are dead.

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    133. Kingbreaker,

      That is a worrying thought. I feel like they may end with a close up on

      Neds shocked face with Lyana in the background saying “promise me Ned promise me.” Then as it cuts to black you hear a baby begin to cry.

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    134. Sansa’s Knight:
      I know a lot of people think it’s going to be split but considering it’s a Mother’s Day episode I think we should finally meet the mum

      Maybe Bran gets a glimpse of her inside TOJ. TER pulls him out because it is been too long in the vision. This prompts Bran to go back later to see more and we see him start going against the TER instructions.

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    135. Dee:
      So will episode 3 be even better than what we have seen so far?

      Yes 🙂 First episode with Jon up and about!

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    136. I think we may have an early hint about if ToJ will give us the big reveal this episode or not based on the “Previously On”. If there’s clips of Ned saying he promises to tell Jon about his mother, then they’ll probably answer the question. If not, and the clips are exclusively contained to Robert and Lyanna, then they may withhold the revelation for Ep5. Again, with me, I’m agnostic about which they way they go, as long as it’s executed well and not rushed.

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    137. Laura,

      Yeah I really only remember Ned’s Fever dreams but it’s crazy how little material we have in one of the biggest speculations of modern literature

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    138. Gotta go host trivia in a couple minutes but I’ll be back tomorrow to bask in all the Tower of Joygasms…enjoy this one folks!

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    139. I can’t see them splitting the ToJ. It would ruin the momentum of the scene I think. I guess their execution of it would make all the difference but that’s just my initial thought

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    140. A couple of thoughts.

      First, everyone here has been getting me emotionally sort-of okay with the fact that they will probably split up ToJ into a few scenes all week-so thank you. I DO however think-at the very least-there has to be something that happens at the end as a reason for us to want to come back. A baby’s cry? A scream in the tower?
      Then even people who have no idea what’s happening will be like “WHO IS IN THE TOWER?” for weeks right along with us.
      Or they could just show the whole thing-and that would be a happy surprise. But probably not, I know.

      Second Eddie seems really pumped. My husband and I were discussing his tweets and of course he’s excited. I wonder if he got the role and was telling a friend about his smallish part on the most popular show in the world and they went, “Who ya playing?”
      “Um…it says young Ned?”
      “WHAT? Ned Stark? Holy shit. What were you doing? In the script?”
      “Chatting up this knight. Arthur something?”
      “OMG ARTHUR DAYNE?! The Sword of the Morning?!”
      “That sounds right. Why are you turning purple? It’s not like I’m in the most important scene in the series that connects like 3 prophecies and relates to several wars and puts everything into perspective for multiple main characters or anything.”

      And third-Happy Mother’s Day.
      I’ve been trying to figure out what could happen this evening based on the episode title Oathbreaker and the mothers on the show.

      Cersei
      Gilly
      Cat-because we can’t rule anything out this year
      Dany-of dragons
      Olenna-grandmother counts
      Lya–Whoever Jon’s mom was via flashback.

      But I can’t think because ToJ! “Now it begins”

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    141. Ghosts Lunch,

      I agree. Even though this is a huge scene I don’t think it’s best put at the end. Leading the episode similar to the Cersei flashback would be perfect

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    142. RG,

      Your imagined conversation with Eddie Eyre and his friend gave me a good laugh, thanks!

      In the books, as Ned is fighting, he hears Lyanna screaming his name from the tower. I think that would work to whet the appetite for what we’ll see next, whether in this episode, or in an upcoming episode.

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    143. Now it begins and the hype starts
      We hope for joy with all our hearts
      We know too well how this game is played
      We know our emotions will be flayed

      We’ll pray for Sansa, Brienne and Pod
      We’ll drool over Jon and that incredible bod
      We’ll travel with Bran and the three eyed crow
      And look for the faces of people we know

      Osha, the hound, Thoryos of Myr
      We’ll listen for names we long to hear
      We’ll remember the past when Ned had a head
      And think of the future with a touch of dread

      A blind girl who says she has no name
      Will always be Arya just the same
      Rickon and Shaggy may soon come along
      He may be a gift but we hope we are wrong

      The mountain is bashing
      Jaime is dashing
      Cersei is in a funk

      Tommen’s a wimp
      Myrcella’s a stiff
      And Tyrion is getting drunk

      Gendry’s still rowing
      A storm is blowing
      The dragons are flying free

      Jorah’s still searching
      Euron is lurking
      And Dany wants to flee

      Yara is swearing
      Theon is wearing
      Clothes that really reek

      Hotpie has a cot
      Dorne had a plot
      That really was just too weak

      Winter is coming there can be no doubt
      We will toast the season drinking our stout
      In steins with lions, wolves, and stags
      Or even in bottles in brown paper bags

      No matter the outcome, no matter the end
      We’ll come back again, same time next weekend
      And with tears of joy and with tears of sorrow
      We really can’t wait to read recaps tomorrow

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    144. Dee,

      I’d be over the moon if it’s as good as last week! I’m hoping Arya’s story makes some progress, plus any more gimpses of Euron Greyjoy – I have Oberyn levels of giddy excitement for that character/actor (hopefully he sticks around a lot longer!)

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    145. About an hour left!

      Can’t wait. I’m afraid of the episode not being on par with last week’s and being close to the premiere in terms of entertainment, but I’m confident enough that it’ll still be eventful and greatly paced in good ways like “Home”.

      Every weekend feels like Christmas, and I freaking love it nonetheless.

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    146. I was re-watching episode 1 today and I noticed how the Sand Snake who uses a whip was prepared to use that weapon inside a small confined room on that ship. lel, D & D never ceases to amaze me.

      Lets hope Euron Greyjoy’s badassery continues tonight. I was very encouraged by what I saw in episode 2.

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    147. Michael,
      This, this is what i fear. mainly for the point that it might make the whole story telling of it a bit clunky (I’ve seen arguments that liken it to the book’s way of doing it but George’s hand i find is far more eloquent and methodical than that of the show-runners). But also for the fact the wait will be agonising!

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    148. God why am I dreading this episode!?!? I just want Rickon to come out of this ok and for the Smalljon to not be a damned traitor. GAH why must I care for minor characters! 🙁

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    149. J Lee:
      Kingbreaker,

      I’m so fearful of this, but I don’t believe they’ll do it. This season is hitting the ground running in a crazy way, so I hope and believe ToJ will follow suit.

      One can only hope, but haven’t we all developed a healthy scepticism by now?!

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    150. I’m kind of hoping they’ll hold off on the big ToJ reveal until episode 5. Because episode 5 falls on birthday and getting confirmation of

      R+L=J

      would be the best present ever! I’ll still be excited if it happens tonight though.

      I’m also really looking forward to catching up with Sam and Gilly, although it’s probably just going to be a catch-up scene and nothing big.

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    151. What is dead may never die! Staying up till 2am over here in the UK because I am so hyped up I couldn’t sleep even if I wanted to!

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    152. I don’t know man I don’t know!
      I’m afraid D&D will ruin the sence
      Here’smy thoughts :
      I think during the fight Bran will yell “Father!”
      And Ned will hear him and turn his head, and that’s when Bloodraven touchs Bran’s shoulder and get back to the cave and we will get the line ” the past is already written, the ink is dry”

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    153. Lyanna_Targaryen:
      For Mother’s Day, I asked my husband to take our kid to the movies so I could watch at airtime in a quiet house. I’m basically a monster.

      I think I’ll film myself while I watch, just to see if I look as ridiculous as I feel watching this season (I hope it’s not just me).

      MUCH EXCITE. VERY HYPE.

      I LMAO when I read this.. not a monster.. just a huge fan!! 😉 Im right there with you but its on at 9:00 and my little one is in bed by 7:30 every night.. so that gives me ample time to get my game face on.. haha

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    154. Mother’s Day & my birthday (on Cinco De Mayo) festivities kept me away for the whole day/weekend. And I am like trying to cram study reading these posts and decided to just say F’it and get myself geared up for the show to begin.. so … that being said HAPPY MOTHER’S DAY to all the Mother’s here and ….. I saw a loin cloth may fall off a said member of the Stark family?? OMGosh. Im sooooooo stoked for this show.. got to do my pee break (teehee) and get my glass of Pinot Noir and set/record this episode bc I forgot last week and almost had a meltdown thinking that I wasn’t going to get to re-watch it a 100 times.

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    155. I am not that worried about the ToJ scene. Although I think the diaglog for this scene is very important, much more then the whole fight.

      I am more worried about Jon’s personality now that he is returned from the dead, I hope he is not too dark.

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    156. Where do people think ToJ will be split at? What if the episode ended as soon as Ned says “No, Now it ends”.

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    157. Laura,

      Another consequence of WoW not yet appearing is that it gives D&D excuse to cut the story to the barest bone and make up story to facilitate condensing. If WoW were published, fans would clamor for more of the story to be included in the show, and it would be harder to justify leaving out published material from the show.

      So lack of WoW not only postpones book readers’ enjoyment, it shortens the show.

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    158. Darkstar:
      Lyanna_Targaryen,

      Ha ha. Every week I warn my son he better not bother me unless he is bleeding PROFUSELY or on fire OR HE WILL FEEL MY WRATH.

      Evil mama.

      Happy Mothers Day to all.?

      Lol.. yes and I tell my husband to NOT say one word or ask one thing during the show bc he’s always gone (working/traveling) and hasn’t watched any of the shows but two… so when he’s home I told him that there is NO talking allowed… I know that is mean but I just can’t take one second away from the screen bc I need to make sure I don’t miss anything..

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    159. Ginevra: Note, book spoilers abound here, but this is a very informative site on the books.

      http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Tower_of_Joy
      http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Rhaegar_Targaryen
      http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Lyanna_Stark
      http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Tourney_at_Harrenhal
      http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Knight_of_the_Laughing_Tree

      If you have the books, you can also search the cited chapters at the bottom of each webpage for more details.If you have Kindle versions of the books, you may even find more references to the ToJ, Lyanna, and Rhaegar by searching.

      I was MIA this weekend for the most part and ALL of today… can you summarize the content today for me… lol .. JK.. enjoy the show and lets get this Skype up and going for next week.. I think Dee said that she would partake too?

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    160. Rewatching last week’s episode, again. Ramsay just said “Castle Black isn’t defended on the southern side.” Except for 5,000 Wildings you don’t seem to know about yet, dudes, and every one of them is angry as fuck and looking for someone to squish.

      Also, a question that just occurred to me. If Karstark believes the North needs new blood, then why are they, or some other long-established Northern family not vying for that position? What hold do the Bolton’s have on everyone that the northern lords don’t just stamp them out and take over?

      I’m loving seeing Sansa this season, more than any other season. Maybe because she’s away from all the jerks that had their claims on her before. Hope she eventually finds someone to love and who loves her properly. Yeah, ok, I have a bit of a romantic streak.

      Hmmm, I’ve always wondered what the true purpose of was of making so much of Pod’s sexual prowess. We all took it as a joke, or some sort of comic filler, but what if it wasn’t. If we go on the theory that there are no wasted lines or scenes … isn’t Pod supposed to be from a titled family? And near Sansa’s age? And somewhat of a hero to her for helping save her. Anybody want to ship Sansa and Pod with me? I’m liking the idea more and more. After all, her first man didn’t touch her because he was busy loving Shae; her second is a rough, selfish psycho, maybe the third will be juuuust right.

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    161. Kingbreaker,

      Dan and Dave have their moments, i have my own vision o0f how it goes down based on what GRRM wrote and undoubtedly it will be massively different. But different doesn’t always mean worse. We only have 10 minutes left to wait now :D.

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    162. Jack Bauer 24,

      There has to be more dire wolves than Ghost. It makes sense to see Rickon with his wolf and we will certainly see a certain pack later on…

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    163. Thronetender,

      Theon said hes going “Home” as well last episode. Maybe hell be there for the kingsmoot. Or maybe his home is at winterfell and hell try go back and kill Ramsay. Thats what i believe may happen who knows.

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    164. Hodors Bastard,

      I was also wondering about it… I just rewatched ep2 and the actress who played Lyanna could be the slightly older Lyanna as well… She had something ambiguous about her age…

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    165. RG,

      Thanks for the laugh!

      Anyway, Eddie Eyre is not young Ned, Robert Aramayo is.

      Luke Robert is Dayne, so I really don’t know who Eddie is on the TOJ (Reed? Hightower?)

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    166. Felt tired at one. But I don’t now. BRING IT!!! 😀

      She bringing back Jon again as I type this HYPE HYPE HYPE!!! Have fun y’all…

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    167. Everyone enjoy the episode!!!

      For those of you talking about tornadoes…

      Stay safe, and I hope, at the very least, you can watch it on your phone from the root-cellar!

      …And now it begins…:) 🙂 🙂

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    168. Ravyn,

      I’m a romantic too. I have a lot of ships that will probably never happen.
      Pod and Sansa…or Sansan…I go back and forth but I have thought about both. lol
      Bran and Meera
      Arya and Gendry is a big one
      Brienne and Jaime of course (We can’t choose who we ship)

      Speaking of mother’s day, my mom has only one ship since she read the books and she will not give up until the last one is written. Jon and Dany. She doesn’t even care if they’re related lol

      OMG 2 minutes!

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    169. Okay, I’m out for now. My toddler doesn’t go to sleep for another hour so I have to avoid the internet until I can watch it.

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    170. Lyanna_Targaryen:
      For Mother’s Day, I asked my husband to take our kid to the movies so I could watch at airtime in a quiet house. I’m basically a monster.

      I think I’ll film myself while I watch, just to see if I look as ridiculous as I feel watching this season (I hope it’s not just me).

      MUCH EXCITE. VERY HYPE.

      Monster? Nope. Brilliant? Yes! I know what I’m asking for on Fathers Day.

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    171. So they think Jon is some kid of God and PtwP mentioned for the first time? TOJ is also in this episode. Interesting. We’ll get that also with Daeny too for another parallel.

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    172. Ron Mexico:
      No Rickon on the “previous on”.Maybe he isn’t introduced as the gift this week?

      If they showed Rickon it would be too obvious.

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    173. So Tower of Joy was a massive let down 🙁 Very disappointed. I am actually aghast at how they managed to botch one of the greatest moments in all of the books.

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    174. HE SAID SWORD OF THE MORNING! SUCH A GREAT FIGHT BUT NOOOOOOOOOO.

      Howland Reed finally shown on screen. After that scream I wanted to see Lyanna!!!!!

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    175. Al Swearengen:
      So Tower of Joy was a massive let down Very disappointed. I am actually aghast at how they managed to botch one of the greatest moments in all of the books.

      Aaaand it starts….

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    176. Al Swearengen:
      So Tower of Joy was a massive let down Very disappointed. I am actually aghast at how they managed to botch one of the greatest moments in all of the books.

      I’m wondering why exactly you think it was “botched”.

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    177. Anyone besides me having trouble watching on HBO Now? Every time it starts to play it freezes and sounds like its fast forwarding. ???

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    178. George: I’m wondering why exactly you think it was “botched”.

      – Rushed pace
      – Butchered dialouge
      – Sloppy fight choregraphy
      – Horrible acting. Young Ned was atrocious
      – No dawn
      – Cheesy moment with Bran

      It was amateurish and low budget. I am sorry but it was really bad.

      Jon’s scene with Davos though was excellent.

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    179. Oh Jon 🙁 You’re just as beautiful as ever.

      How anticlimactic they didn’t even show us Alliser or Olly’s surprise, no regrets or last words from the boy, hanging..huh. Left me with a sad feeling, the end of this episode.

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    180. My watch has ended!!!!!

      Bran won’t be in the tree forever.
      Shaggy Dog!
      Jon did his duty, although I thought he’d swing the sword four times.

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    181. I haven’t read the above yet – but my first reaction is disappointment with this episode. Perhaps I need a few rewatches, and read what everyone else is saying to get a clearer picture of what is bothering me.

      It was dark, the music was brooding, everything was slow motion. It was like they were all underwater. Well, yes now his watch has ended Let the battles begin I suppose

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    182. Sansa is going to arrive and Jon is gone 🙁 noooooo

      Shaggy dog and rickon omg

      And that flashback wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    183. Simon,

      God, i hope so, i’m trying to think of a way to fake shaggydog’s head but… anyway if it isn’t a plot i want frey and umber’s pies

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    184. Satisfying ending, and not with a cliffhanger but more of a set-up, which is awesome!

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    185. Jack Bauer 24,

      Just a feeling I have. It is like George to have it building up to that. Her arc means something and it’s so dark and twisted just leaves me with a feeling, the fact they made her and Jon’s relationship special, and if he ends up being the Lol champion (lightbringer) that would be the enemy to the god of (death.)

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    186. I enjoyed the episode, but I just have to sit for a few…I can’t think about anything other than Shaggydog.

      Fuck the SmallJon.

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    187. Jon going with Wildlings. Sansa, Brienne and Pod entering some place but it can’t be Castle Black. Wun Wun tore the gates down

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    188. I’m surprised I though we’d get Sansa to CB this week.

      It’s good they’ve got through the training though now arya can be sent on a mission.

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    189. Fuckin’ Umbers.

      Shaggydog!!!! Fuck!

      Except for Tyrion’s silliness, excellent episode.

      Great ending.

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    190. If next week Ramsay announces he’s going to marry Rickon I’ll never watch this show again.

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    191. Jack Bauer 24,

      Good question. The previews show nothing of him. Will he be missing next episode? God I hope not. Kit said it’s his biggest season for filming so how can they have him sit out a 3rd episode?

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    192. Ok this episode sadly felt boring …. The tower of joy scene was awesome I doubt I’ve ever seen such a well choreographed sword fight but the rest of the episode was meh

      Looks like next weeks episode is gonna be super intense though … Which makes me think this episode like episode 1 was just a build up to next week

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    193. I thought it was a nice episode, not one of the better ones I’ve seen, but still pretty good. I think this season just has a different feel to it so far and that’s not a bad thing at all. It’s a different season in many ways; finally passed the books, Jon snow resurrection plot, etc.

      Tower of joy was interesting…we’ll have to see the second half of it to truly rate it….i wish they had shown it all in 1 episode.

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    194. Al Swearengen: – Rushed pace
      – Butchered dialouge
      – Sloppy fight choregraphy
      – Horrible acting. Young Ned was atrocious
      – No dawn
      – Cheesy moment with Bran

      It was amateurish and low budget. I am sorry but it was really bad.

      Jon’s scene with Davos though was excellent.

      Oh, bugger off! That was awesome, and you’re a c**t.

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    195. Shit was doooooope Dayne was fucking shit up left and right…and damn did they find the perfect actor for young Ned…fucking casting on this show and the actors are unbelievable…

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    196. AMAZING. Pure perfection. Kit was amazing, these were some of his best acting scenes. This episode is why I love this show.

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    197. Man what a great episode XD
      Tower of joy fight
      Jon Snow
      Varys interrogating that woman about the sons of the harpy
      The small council scenes where pretty funny, and loved the Tyrion scene.
      Solid episode, glad they slowed things down after episode 2.
      Oh yea Reckon is the gift, saw that coming, poor shaggy dog…..
      time for some high class bitching 🙂
      Now it begins.

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    198. Not particularly keen on that episode. Jon’s scenes pretty much were the only standouts.

      Tower of Joy, ugh. Why must you continue to disappoint me D & D 🙁

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    199. I am not convinced that this head was Shaggydog’s… The whole scene seemed as if he was playing theatre

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    200. Pigeon,

      I felt so bad for Jon when he was gazing up at Olly with so much feeling of sadness. The little shit couldn’t even say anything to the man who tried to be his mentor and big brother 🙁

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    201. Ice Spider,
      Deesensfan,

      If y’all want to Skype next Sunday, the 15th, just add me on Skype. I’m ellensmyth.

      1. Sign in to Skype.
      2. Tap the more button at the top-right of the screen.
      3. Select Add people.
      4. Enter a contact’s name, Skype Name or email address.
      5. Select a contact from the list of results and tap Add to contacts.
      6. Edit the contact request message if you like (by tapping Edit) and tap Send.

      If anyone else is interested, let me know.

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    202. Tbh the episode was kind of boring. The scenes at the Wall were the best as usual. Jonny boy carrying another season on his muscular back. I have to rewatch that first scene again…..for science.

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    203. Al Swearengen:
      Not particularly keen on that episode. Jon’s scenes pretty much were the only standouts.

      Tower of Joy, ugh. Why must you continue to disappoint me D & D ?

      Get lost. This is a GoT fan site, for people who like the show. Go to westeros.org you wanker.

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    204. The Umber (did they give his name) is taking the place of Wyman Manderley in the series, mark my words. Which means Shaggydog is still alive somewhere.

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    205. Pigeon:
      Total mic drop by Jon.

      I TOLD you there’d be no reunion at CB!!!!!

      And that wasn’t Shaggy.

      I need more upbeat people like you just so i will stop feeling sick over rickon, osha and shaggy

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    206. Al Swearengen: – Rushed pace
      – Butchered dialouge
      – Sloppy fight choregraphy
      – Horrible acting. Young Ned was atrocious
      – No dawn
      – Cheesy moment with Bran

      It was amateurish and low budget. I am sorry but it was really bad.

      Jon’s scene with Davos though was excellent.

      People like you just need to move to another planet where everything sucks because……

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    207. The scene with the kids in the lab was a lot funnier than I was expecting (what I was expecting was a pile of dead kids). I wonder how many of them are already Varys’ Little Birds?

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    208. TOJ was awesome (and they made it VERY clear there is more we will see )

      I died a little when they showed Shaggy Dogs head..Osha is own borrowed time..Rickon just a little bit longer

      “My Watch has ended…” HELL YEA!!!

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    209. I think Jon will still be at Castle Black when Sansa arrives, and that is when he gets the pink letter from Ramsay.

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    210. RIP the Stark line unless Bran and Meera procreate or something.

      Bran confirmed to not be a tree at the end of this!

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    211. maybe the thing with the shaggydog head is like the hands of davos un whiteharbor in the books, just a fake, i really hope

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    212. They think your some kind of God…. Im not… I know.. .I saw your pecker…. LMAO.. the shizit was funny!! Tormund is the effing man now …

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    213. For those who thought it was boring are you kidding me?? Last episode was CRAZY. We needed a bit more slowly paced episode. We can’t have every moment of the show be about fights and deaths. The quiet dialogue parts are one of the main reasons why this show is SO GOOD. Stop whining please. I loved it.

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    214. Sadly, I didn’t think too highly of this episode. It wasn’t bad per se, there were certainly a few really good scenes, but it just felt like too much set-up without enough pay-off. I know that’s always the show’s MO early in the seasons, but I think it should be moving quicker with so few episodes left overall.

      Also, I really wasn’t a fan of how the Tower of Joy went down. I know that’s mostly because its a scene I’ve built up in my head for literally 17 years now, so that’s not the show’s fault, but that doesn’t change how I feel.

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    215. gewa76,

      It’s not my fault you seem to be unable to handle people who have differing opinions. Grow up and stop acting like a petulant child.

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    216. dothrakian raven:
      Al Swearengen,

      Not again the choreography thing….

      Yep, the choreography thing. I’m willing to bet that most people making that comment have never even held an actual European sword before, let alone learned to fight with one in a theatrical setting.

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    217. ash,

      I agree I don’t know what it was but this episode didn’t leave me feeling like I’d watched the most amazing thing ever … It almost felt they were dragging things out

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    218. Geralt of Rivia:
      So they think Jon is some kid of God and PtwP mentioned for the first time? TOJ is also in this episode. Interesting. We’ll get that also with Daeny too for another parallel.

      OOO! I meant to mention that, too. Almost as soon as Jon is reborn, we get TPTWP!!!!

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    219. Probably overall my favorite episode of the season.

      The Great:
      -Arya’s story
      -Bran flashback (Arthur Dayne fighting four guys with two swords was awesome)
      -Varys scene in throne room (reminder that Varys is a bad ass and isn’t just Tyrion’s insult stooge)
      -Winterfell meeting

      The Good:
      -Castleblack (went exactly as expected)
      -Dany

      The Bad:
      -Bizarre Tyrion, Misandei, and Greyworm scene
      -Some real bad dialogue spread throughout the episode
      -The King’s Landing stuff was clunky, not really a good scene in there
      -Sam and Gilly (surprise, though I liked how he’s dropping her off at Hornhill)

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    220. RIP Shaggydog

      Best moment of the episode….

      The Mountain throwing shade at Jaime. LOL

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    221. Nymeria Warrior Queen:
      I enjoyed the episode, but I just have to sit for a few…I can’t think about anything other than Shaggydog.

      Fuck the SmallJon.

      🙁 I am beside myself. Half of our Stark direwolves are gone. Motherfucking Scumbers!

      I loved the Arya scene. Who was The Waif trying to prod her into naming? The Waif?

      I loved the ToJ. The choreography was good to me. *shrugs*

      There was only one scene I disliked strongly and that was the Tyrion/Missandei/Grey Worm scene. It went on for way too long.

      Please baby Jesus, save Osha and Rickon – somehow, some way.

      Obviously Home is still the best ep this season. Home was a 10/10 for me. This one was about an 8/10 for me and the premiere was only about a 6/10.

      Wonder if my job will be cool if I call out to mourn Shaggydog?

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    222. My totally unsullied husband thought it was a boring episode. I was disappointed that we didn’t get all of Tower of Joy but I guess they will finish that up when the time is right.

      I guess they tricked us with that picture of Thorne from this week’s episode, or it wasn’t from this episode at all. Of course, a rope around his neck would have been a dead giveaway. LOL

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    223. It was a brilliant episode! Moody and dark, with great dialogues and excellent performances. At last an episode with politics, action and big surprises! In a way a great balance to the first two episodes. Most of the players were there preparing smoothly their next move.

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    224. The first scene is some of the best acting I’ve seen on this show. The way Mel looked at Jon was like she was staring at a God lol.

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    225. It;s Osha we should b worried about…Ramsay cnt kill Rickon yet…but without Shaggydog to protect, Osha is basically Reek now.

      PS: I don’t normally moan about the show, but now Ive got to – theyre overdoing it with torturing fanfavourites at the hands of that idiot.

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    226. The Tower of Joy scene was terrific. The choreography excellent. Loved the Arya sequence, even if I’m getting tired with the syntax of the HoB&W. I loved how they subverted the death of Olly. Instead of a rah-rah bitch-is-dead moment, they reminded us that this was a child that Jon was executing. Very powerful.

      A lot of the rest of the episode felt a little disjointed to me. I think part of that is the Sam-Gilly and Dany scene was just a check in one, and the entire Tyrion stuff with Missandei and Grey Worm was just filler.

      Still, strong when it was strong, just a few too many soft moments for me.

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    227. gewa76,

      I think he was watching the fanmade scene on YouTube instead of HBO. But, there will always be 1% who type up their negative comments in advance, and barely wait for the scene to hit enter.

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    228. Ok, decent episode over all given the material that was covered. Not as refined as last week, but still a 6.5-7/10 on the high GoT scale.

      Complaints:

      I hate to be this spoilt, but ToJ….How can you start out with the exact dialogue from the books and then Dorne-ify it half way through?

      If you’re gonna start with “i looked for you on the trident”, you better well follow it up with “the kingsguard does not flee, then or now.” Not replace it with “Where’s my sister”? “Not your concern”.

      Also, @Al Swearingon is partially right – some of the script was god awful. Its like they don’t know what to say around Ramsay anymore, so half of the words out of Umber’s mouth are f#!#’s.

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    229. Anyone else find it funny that a good chunk of episode titles we thought would be used have been popping up as dialogue?

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    230. Flayed Potatoes:
      Tbh the episode was kind of boring. The scenes at the Wall were the best as usual. Jonny boy carrying another season on his muscular back. I have to rewatch that first scene again…..for science.

      Why is it that I seem to only like the CB scenes too? I mean seriously I am not even breathing again until they show goes back to CB. I love Sansa’s arc too but we didn’t get that this episode. Im sorry but Tyrion’s scenes even failed to entertain me this time. That whole feel between him and Missandei and Greyworm was just horrific…. Vary’s had to come in and save the day. And I can’t even begin to say how pissed I am they killed Shaggydog.. I mean is the carnage for the Starks EVER going to stop?

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    231. great episode Jon’s ***spoiler*** “my watch has ended” line was the best and I am genuinely afraid for Rickon like these two scenes embody why I love this show and hate it equally.

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    232. carbonUnit,

      Or I’ve just seen fight scenes that were executed with more finesse in other shows and movies. But no, GOT’s choreography is impeccable…..

      Arya’s scenes were choreographed better than ToJ.

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    233. I really wish they’d spend more tone on fewer story lines each episode like they used to. It’d rather not see everyone every episode but feel like we got somewhere with the ones we did see.

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    234. Connor,

      My thoughts exactly. I doubt this kind of ‘fan’ would be satisfied with any representation of TOJ.

      People, it’s an adaptation – it’s never going to match what you imagined in your head when you read it, because it’s another artist’s rendering of the same story. Even if it’s not exact as one pictured it, can’t we all just be excited? They are finally telling this story! We all get to really see what happened that day, not just in GRRM oblique hints, but really see it.

      Tl;dr. Some fans need to simmer down.

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    235. Lorien Mizar:
      DAMN YOU BLOODRAVEN AND YOUR STUPID RULES!!!!!

      Yeah, what does Bran do the rest of the day, besides 5 minutes of watching the past ? or is it like in Gravity, 1 hour equals one year in real life or whatever ?

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    236. Simon,

      that’s just the thing i’m still trying to think of a way to fake it, a normal wolf wouldn’t do it because of the size so i’m lost, but i don’t really want to believe it is shaggy

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    237. The fight scene at the Tower of Joy was great. Of course they’re going to string R+L=J out.

      Jonathan Pryce showed his acting chops. Gotta love Qyburn. Grey Worm has a sweet new outfit. Pretty sure they’re slowly setting up for CleganeBowl.

      I did miss Wun Wun. This appeared to be a low effects episode, guess they were saving money. Shocked they showed Olly hanging and hung. I’m none too happy about what’s in store for Rickon and Osha.

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    238. Great episode!!! Much slower than the previous one but still great

      I wonder where Jon is going now that his watch has ended

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    239. So the Karstarks and Umbers are with Ramsey, so that leave the Manderlys as the last large army in the north and the ones that will betray the Boltons.

      Jon and or Sansa via Davos will have the Mormonts and probably one or two other lesser houses like the Glovers or Cerwyns.

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