The cast is sighted all around Belfast for season 8 read-through!

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Filming is about to begin for the eighth and final season! As we witness the starring cast convene in Belfast for the read-through and rehearsals, we keep hearing about the extreme levels of security the Game of Thrones production is willing to go to in order to avoid leaks. So, in a related fun story, we get into just how far the company in charge of security may go; including the use of birds of prey to take down snooping drones!

The season eight read-through has taken all the cast to Belfast, where many of them have been seen — though, curiously, it appears that selfies are not allowed this time. Nevertheless, along with the sightings there are photos as well, with Kit Harington, Emilia Clarke, John Bradley, Nikolaj Coster Waldau, Maisie Williams, Sophie Turner, Kristofer Hivju, Iain Glen, Isaac Hempstead Wright, Jacob Anderson, Ben Crompton (Edd is back!) and, next to Nikolaj, someone who looks very much like Pilou Asbæk:





The read-through with the entire cast ends today. The rest of this week will be used for initial rehearsals with two directors before filming begins, at last, in mid-October.


As for the anti-drone story, Belfast Live once reported on the concerns drones have brought to security companies, such as the one in charge of protecting the Paint Hall, the show’s Belfast studios. Drones have become cheaper and better at such a rate that now almost anyone could fly by the Game of Thrones studios and take revealing photos. That’s why drones have been prohibited from flying over Paint Hall studios since 2015 … but, as one may expect, threatening signs have proven to be insufficient.

Photo: Belfast Live

Photo: Belfast Live

Noah Price, who is in charge of solving these challenges at one such company, G4S UK, told Belfast Live they “are trying to keep up with the technology just like everyone else” — but the solution isn’t always to match the drone pilots technologically; creativity may be enough. Reportedly, eagles specifically trained to take down drones have been seriously considered for a while now as a way to thwart fans trying to spy on filming.

Apparently, Dutch and Turkish police are already testing these anti-drone eagles, so they are not a Game of Thrones innovation, as appropriate as that would be. Eagles are not dragons, and The Lord of the Rings isn’t Game of Thrones, but it’s still pretty close!

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    1. so will show them in action..finally ..but we have to wait until october 19..and the security for leaks/photos of action is high as fuck

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    2. Heh. That’s pretty funny.

      I’m still counting on the human factor. Every hacker (and just hacking aficionado) knows that humans are the weakest point in security.

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    3. Thank you for the update, Luka. I feel like all this MI-6-level security is protecting them and us. Many fans are leak-averse, which I utterly respect. But for this last season, when everything is finalised including much of the endgame for the books, even I’m now leak-averse. You mods do a fantastic job of buffering us as best you can. Thank you for that too.

      Also, I just came across The Game Revealed for Ep 7.7 on YouTube, but not on the HBO website. If you feel like having a look it’s at: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xm33Y3g2zkU

      Finally, hope to see you at the Con. If you have some spare time and have an interest, I”d be glad to show you a local Spanish art collection.

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    4. I’m a person who doesn’t want to be “spoiled” though a person has some responsibility to avoid spoilers. I sometimes (not all the time – I do have chores to do etc etc) have watched GoT reaction videos you know those recommendations you get from YouTube – well one popped up with Viserion breathing blue flames, so I was partially “spoiled” although I didn’t click on the thumbnail to find out the whole story of the episode. If the people making the show are going to such extreme lengths to avoid spying maybe it’s as well there is only one season of GoT left. I tried to post something in the forums a few days ago linking to videos (nothing to do with me so I had no vested interest) about learning to speak English like the cast of GoT. I’m a bit late to the party but I remember some people had problems with Casterly Rock (or the castle chosen for it) – I didn’t mind the castle chosen but I am linking to a video by an Australian YouTuber who deemed it a fail. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luaRVN_tsKI
      Now I haven’t been to Spain for decades but I looked online (oh, the wonders of the internet) to see if I could find a Spanish castle which might suit. The Alcazar de Segovia looked pretty impressive https://www.exploring-castles.com/europe/spain/alcazar_de_segovia/ though one can’t really tell 100% from photographs. Are there any Spanish readers here who have an opinion? From what I read it is used as a military school so it might have been difficult to get permission for filming to be honest.

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    5. It makes me happy and more than a little nostalgic to see all of the cast converging back in Belfast for … sigh … one last ride. Particularly happy to see Ben Crompton among them as well. I’d didn’t exactly doubt that Edd would return for the final season, but unless it’s just for an early season cameo, this gives me some hope that he may make his way down south from the Wall – along with Beric and Tormund – to join up with the fighters at Winterfell.

      Practicality questions aside, I hope that the reports of anti-drone eagles potentially being deployed turn out to be true if for no other reason than anti-drone eagles sound totally badass. Honestly, they sound like something that would fit perfectly in the Game of Thrones universe … Anti-raven eagles?

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    6. 🦅🦅🦅🦅 vs. 🚁🚁🚁🚁

      “…the company in charge of security for the production may go as far as using birds of prey to take down snooping drones.”
      ***
      “Reportedly, eagles specifically trained to take down drones are now being seriously considered as a way to thwart Game of Thrones fans trying to spy on filming.”
      ———————————

      This would be the coolest thing I’ve ever seen ! Eagles attacking drones!

      I might even prefer to watch six episodes of “Aerial Wars: Eagles vs. Drones” instead of
      GoT season 8. (Well, I take that back..)

      How about a half-hour show once a week until S8 starts? Ep. 1: “Battle Over Belfast.”

      Memo to GoT: Don’t just “seriously consider” using eagles “specifically trained to take down drones.”

      “Make it so!”
      – Captain Jean-Luc Picard

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    7. Sue the Fury:
      Yayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy filming season is upon us. All the joys of Christmas season with none of the shopping hassles.

      Thanks to you, and everyone else at Watchers on the Wall, for bringing us all the news.

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    8. Bearded Onion:
      Anti drone Eagles sound awesome as hell.

      But wouldn’t the blades hurt them? 🙁

      I would have thought so but I saw an episode of Mythbusters where they tested the danger of drone blades of several models. If I remember correctly standard blades aren’t sharp and either bend or stop when there’s resistance. They had to modify blades/drones to break skin in other words. There are several YouTube vids of eagles taking down drones without any apparent harm.

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    9. Ten Bears,

      It’s not a spoiler to say Tormund and Beric survived the season finale. We saw them them getting out of the collapsing portion of the Wall just in time. So of course they will reappear. Now, will they survive for long? That’s another question entirely. That would be a spoiler.

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    10. Ten Bears,

      There’s no way that Tormund or Beric will die during the collapse of The Wall. He’s too important and popular of a character to die that way. However, I wouldn’t be the least bit surprised if both of them die later on during season 8.

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    11. Luka Nieto,

      Luka Nieto:
      Ten Bears,

      It’s not a spoiler to say Tormund and Beric survived the season finale. We saw them them getting out of the collapsing portion of the Wall just in time. So of course they will reappear. Now, will they survive for long? That’s another question entirely.

      You make me happy for Tormund/Beric

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    12. Ten Bears,

      Luka Nieto,
      Well, there were people trying to prove they were on the falling side of the Wall and confidently saying they died. I on the other hand also believe their intention with the last shot of them was to show that they managed to escape to a ‘safe’ spot. (I also don’t believe Gendry was still at Eastwatch, but that’s another subject) 🙂

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    13. Luka Nieto,

      1. Yeah, I didn’t think it was a “spoiler”, but I covered it in an abundance of caution.

      2. On another note: Would you happen to know how “table reads” are conducted? Does the entire cast sit around a big table throughout the two-day session? Or do the actresses and actors only participate in the read-throughs of the particular scenes in which they appear?

      For instance, Ben Crompton is in Belfast. I can’t imagine that he’d be in most of the scenes in all six episodes, unless… Season 8, Episode 1 begins with the stunning cold open of Lord Commander Doloures Edd drawing a flaming sword from a fire, confirming speculation that he is indeed Azor Ahai.

      Seriously, I wonder how they do the table reads; if there’s concern about leaks – including inadvertent slip-ups by the cast – limiting the actors to their respective scenes would seem to be a logical measure.

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    14. Clob,

      Well, Beric’s parting words to Sandor at the end of S7e6 were: “We’ll meet again.” Sandor replied: “F*cking hope not.”

      To me, that’s a good indication Beric survived.

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    15. Clob:
      Ten Bears,

      Luka Nieto,
      (I also don’t believe Gendry was still at Eastwatch, but that’s another subject) 🙂

      Well then, where do you believe Gendry is?
      I had trouble figuring out where everyone in the Snow Patrol wound up at the end of episode 7, e.g., who was on the S.S. Incest besides Dany, Jon and Tyrion?

      If memory serves correctly:

      Jon: In stateroom with Dany, grunting “Winter is Coming!”
      Dany: Incubating the Zygote that was Promised.
      Tyrion: Frowning like Mr. Buzzkill in the hallway while Jon & Dany cement their “advantageous military alliance” in private.
      Jorah Mormont: ? leading Dothraki north ?
      Sandor Clegane: ____ ?
      Gendry: _____ ?
      Beric: Scrambling down crumbling Wall
      Tormund: ” ”
      Thoros: RIP

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    16. Ten Bears: Well then, where do you believe Gendry is?
      Sandor Clegane: ____ ?
      Gendry: _____ ?
      Beric: Scrambling down crumbling Wall
      Tormund: ” ”

      Until it’s proven otherwise I’m going to believe that Gendry returned to Dragonstone with the rest of them and remained there while the group went to KL. His identity/appearance is unknown to Cersei and those that would kill him so bringing him with would have been unwise.
      I’d say Sandor also returned to Dragonstone from KL with those he arrived with. I doubt he went off on his own if he’s to remain in the story so the options are limited. So, either that or decided to travel with Brienne and Pod back to Winterfell… Perhaps they all went with the crew back to Dragonstone since they’re all now part of one “army.”
      I think Tormund and Beric are going to walk the Wall to Castle Black. The NK didn’t seem concerned with them so they should be safe to do that.

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    17. Ten Bears: Well then, where do you believe Gendry is?
      I had trouble figuring out where everyone in the Snow Patrol wound up at the end of episode 7, e.g., who was on the S.S. Incest besides Dany, Jon and Tyrion?

      As far as I see it, the most logical options for what happened to Gendry after we last saw him telling Davos to send a raven are, in no particular order:

      1 – He remained at Eastwatch, but wasn’t up top with Tormund and Beric when the Night King appeared, so we didn’t see him.

      2 – When Team Targ left Eastwatch, Gendry proceeded to Castle Black to drop off some dragonglass weapons forged on Dragonstone. Not mentioned, but a logical proposition given that Castle Black is the main stronghold of the Night’s Watch. They need such weapons, particularly given that Jon returned from Hardhome without those Sam found at the Fist of the First Men.

      3 – Davos’s original intent was for Gendry to go to Winterfell; he was diverted from this intention when he asked Jon to take him along on the mission beyond the Wall. It isn’t impossible that Davos subsequently sent Gendry on to Winterfell while everyone else (save Tormund and Beric) returned south. Given that Gendry’s identity probably isn’t something Davos and Jon want widely known, it would make sense to get him out of the way.

      4 – It also isn’t impossible that Gendry was tasked with both options 2 and 3. A trip to Castle Black to drop off some weapons and then on to Winterfell. This could explain why Gendry hasn’t reached Winterfell in the time it has taken for Jon to get as far south as King’s Landing and return to Dragonstone to send the raven confirming his imminent journey back to Winterfell.

      5 – Gendry returned south with Davos and Jon but wasn’t present at the Dragonpit meeting. He either remained on the ship or was at Dragonstone (perhaps helping forge weapons from the last of the dragonglass?) while the meeting took place and is aboard the ship heading back north. If this is the case, Davos has most likely merged him in with the rest of the Northmen who accompanied Jon south from Winterfell.

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    18. Clob:
      Ten Bears,

      Luka Nieto,
      Well, there were people trying to prove they were on the falling side of the Wall and confidently saying they died.I on the other hand also believe their intention with the last shot of them was to show that they managed to escape to a ‘safe’ spot. (I also don’t believe Gendry was still at Eastwatch, but that’s another subject) 🙂

      Yep, I agree. As I interpreted that scene, they were running in a westerly direction (i.e. in the direction of Castle Black). Looked like they were running along the top of the wall when a section fell down behind them?

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    19. Alba Stark,

      Jon intended to provide dragonglass weapons to the entire North, so, it’s legit to assume that he brought what he had to Eastwatch and then send some of his men to deliver dragonglass to The Last Hearth, Carhold, and finally Winterfell. Gendry may be in this dragoonglass delivery team, too.

      ramses,

      As for the drones, they have live feed (at least most of them do).

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    20. If there’s any sense to the writing, Gendry will be on his way to Winterfell.

      That’s where he was supposed to be going anyway, before he volunteered for the suicide mission. It makes sense that he would head on from Eastwatch to Winterfell once the mission was over.

      He’s Robert Baratheon’s son. Keeping him in Dany’s immediate proximity would be an unnecessary and idiotic risk.

      I suppose early next season they could reveal that Jon told Dany off-screen who he is and she’s got no beef with Gendry. After Season 7 I wouldn’t put it past them to be that lazy with the writing.

      But Jon keeping a few secrets from Dany maintains some semblance of intrigue and potential drama.

      I don’t want a show where everything is conveniently glossed over and tied up into neat bows.

      Gendry being at Winterfell, with only Arya and possibly Sansa knowing his true identity until a point arises where revealing his identity becomes necessary/relevant to the plot, makes more sense to me.

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    21. Ramsay’s 20th Good Man,

      If there’s any sense to the writing, Gendry will be on his way to Winterfell.
      ….
      Gendry being at Winterfell, with only Arya and possibly Sansa knowing his true identity until a point arises where revealing his identity becomes necessary/relevant to the plot, makes more sense to me.
      ————————————————–
      I agree. He’s needed at Winterfell, Northern HQ, for his smithing skills alone. I suspect he rode south from Eastwatch with a few red shirts and the dragonglass about the time Jon, Dany, Biff, Sandor et al were heading to KL and the Dragon Pit. Maybe D&D will grace us with a scene where Arya’s in the courtyard when the Eastwatch contingent arrive and gets a surprise and joyous reunion with her old soul-mate. Arya can’t not tell Sansa as she’s in charge. But Sansa probably will pay no mind to a mere blacksmith unless it comes out he’s also the King’s bastard.

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    22. Inga,

      “As for the drones, they have live feed (at least most of them do).”
      ……………………………..

      Eagles can be equipped with mounted miniature video cameras. Video of eagles dive-bombing a drone and watching it fall out of the sky would be so entertaining.

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    23. Fan: “Can I take a selfie with you?”
      Maisie: “It was so nice to meet you, but I’m terribly sorry. We’re not allowed to.”

      Fan: “Can I take a selfie with you?”
      Rory McCann: “F*ck off.”

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    24. Ramsay’s 20th Good Man: Gendry being at Winterfell, with only Arya and possibly Sansa knowing his true identity

      I don’t think Sansa and Gendry have ever met. When would Sansa ever stroll down the Street of Steel? Arya knows Gendry (of course) and knows that he’s somehow very important; Brienne has recognized Gendry as one of Robert’s offspring. And we presume she’s headed back to Winterfell to report to defacto QitN Lady Sansa, so they all could meet. (Yay!)

      However, having (illegitimate) Baratheon blood no longer seems to be the key to success in Westeros, with at least a couple of actual legitimate Targaryens running (and flying) around. Possible “heir” to the Usurper? That, and a few coppers will get ya a bowl of brown in Flea Alley. Plus a dagger in the kidneys.

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    25. zandru,

      I meant that Sansa would possibly be let in on Gendry’s identity because she’s a Stark and Lady of Winterfell, not that she’s already aware. And he’ll surely tell Arya the truth. Oh, and Bran will probably work it out himself if he doesn’t know already.

      It may be politically prudent for all of the Starks to know the truth about him since, should he ever be legitimised or his claim to the Stormlands or even the Iron Throne need to be pursued for any reason, then having good relationships with and support from the Starks would be a benefit.

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    26. Ten Bears,

      Gods, have you turned into a mind-reader?! 🙂 Even IRL, some people accept and esteem others for what they’re like as people. But many are instantly attracted by prestige, power, wealth or title. Old habits die hard. The Allies have two wars to fight in six episodes, IMO leaving no room for melodrama. But can D&D resist a cliche? Only some fly on a wall in Belfast knows for sure.

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    27. Love our super fan spy updates. Thank goodness for them! On planes, on the sidewalks…you guys rock. Thanks for making my crappy day (work) now evening better.

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    28. Stark Raven’ Rad:
      Ten Bears,

      “…The Allies have two wars to fight in six episodes, IMO leaving no room for melodrama. But can D&D resist a cliche?…”

      S1e3, Ned to Arya: “We cannot fight a war amongst ourselves.”
      S6e10, Jon to Sansa: “We can’t fight a war amongst ourselve

      There’s not enough time left for another sibling squabble! Is there? 🙁

      We already had Sansa vs. Jon. Then Sansa vs. Arya. Neither of those conflicts were among my favorite story lines.

      I thought (hoped?) Sansa and Arya’s lovely reconciliation scene at the end of S7e7 meant they’d listened to their father’s words to protect and look after one another. I was looking forward to the sisters working together as a Dynamic Duo next season. No catfights over Robert 2.0, please?

      I figure there’s going to be enough tension with weasels like Lord Glover when Jon shows up with a “foreign whore” and tells them, “Here’s my new girlfriend. Cute, huh? Oh, and one other thing. I bent the knee – among other things. She’s your Queen now.”

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    29. Season 8 will have More CGI oeration than the rest seasons which means 60-75% indoor shootings i don’t belive we will enjoy spoiler pictures like before

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    30. Clob: Well, there were people trying to prove they were on the falling side of the Wall and confidently saying they died. I on the other hand also believe their intention with the last shot of them was to show that they managed to escape to a ‘safe’ spot.

      Oh, ye gods I hope they made it out. Tormund’s interactions with any other character are always hilarious, and lighten up much of the depressing stuff. He’s a master at elevating even the most simple remark to something that brings a smile. Just look at what he did with a simple script instruction to “give Brienne a look.” It wasn’t meant to be anything special at all in the script, yet, the way he did it took the world by storm and blossomed into that hilarious conversation with the Hound this season. “Ah, you do know her.” It would be a shame to lose him – I see him making it all the way through, becoming a statesman for the surviving Wildings, and a life-long friend to whichever of the other characters make it to the end.

      I don’t have that same optimism for Beric. I think Thoros dying was a portent of doom for Beric, and he will go to his death doing something remarkably brave to ensure the survival of the others.

      More on topic: it’s so great to see the full cast amassing in Belfast. As much as I don’t want the security to be breached too much, other off-seasons were brightened by some amazing sleuth work by our intrepid WotW fans catching sight of cast members around town. I remember the utmost relief in the off-season after Jon was killed at seeing pics of him filming. But drone-destroying eagles? Like someone said, that would be worth watching. That would be really funny. I imagine there will be fans out there busy designing eagle-proof drones, or some such thing.

      Thanks for all the news. I can’t believe it’s been 4 months since the finale aired. It’s gone by pretty fast so far. Thank you WotW

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    31. I am ok with this level of spoiler (Edd and Tormund returning) because it’s not a major surprise and can leave us guessing about what will happen however I’m avoiding any major plot spoilers from here on in.

      For what it’s I’m guessing Tormund dies in episode 1 and Edd and what remains of the Nights watch follow shortly after at the hands of the undead army but of course it’s possible Edd makes it to support Jon and informs him of the wall falling.

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    32. Jon Snowed: For what it’s I’m guessing Tormund dies in episode 1 and Edd and what remains of the Nights watch follow shortly after at the hands of the undead army

      Nope, nope, not Tormund. I’m basing my prediction mostly on hope, because it didn’t look to me that either Tormund or Beric made it out of the avalanche. I was searching my poor befuddled mind for a way that it could turn out that they weren’t now popsicles, and came up with this: it is said that Bran can see the future as well as the past and present. The last scene before the fall of the Wall was Bran going into a trance. Is it possible that the Wall hasn’t really fallen yet, and Bran still has time to warn everybody? Maybe?

      Jon Snowed: of course it’s possible Edd makes it to support Jon and informs him of the wall falling.

      Wouldn’t it be amazing if something so momentous as the Wall falling could be heard throughout the North? After all, there was magic in the making of the Wall. Wouldn’t undone magic, plus the actual physical sounds of untold tons of ice falling, make a mighty roar if the spells are broken? Ok, yeah, I’m just running amok now, I’m going, I’m going.

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    33. zandru: Possible “heir” to the Usurper? That, and a few coppers will get ya a bowl of brown in Flea Alley

      But that would make him an acceptable match for Lady Arya or Lady Sansa, should something like that develop. With limited time, a match between Gendry and either of the Stark girls would only be hinted at, but it would be nice to think of Arya having Gendry as a companion when she goes west of Westeros at the end.

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    34. Inga: then send some of his men to deliver dragonglass to The Last Hearth, Carhold, and finally Winterfell. Gendry may be in this dragoonglass delivery team,

      That makes sense. It didn’t seem like there was enough time between the discovery of the dragonglass and when they left for Eastwatch to forge the amount of weapons they would need. Gendry might go to Winterfell with extra dragonglass to forge. It would have to be Winterfell, otherwise how is he going to see Arya again?

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    35. Thronetender: I can’t believe it’s been 4 months since the finale aired. It’s gone by pretty fast so far.

      I think I missed something… It’s only been six weeks since the finale where I live. 😛

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    36. Thronetender: Is it possible that the Wall hasn’t really fallen yet, and Bran still has time to warn everybody? Maybe

      That’s an interesting thought…

      Thronetender: Wouldn’t it be amazing if something so momentous as the Wall falling could be heard throughout the North?

      That could be a good possibility from Last Hearth anyway. One would think that much ice falling would sound like an explosion and feel like an earthquake.

      Thronetender: It didn’t seem like there was enough time between the discovery of the dragonglass and when they left for Eastwatch to forge the amount of weapons they would need.

      Maybe they could just divvy out dragonglass shards and instruct individuals to fashion weapons, or just wrap the end of pieces for a makeshift handled dagger at the very least.

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    37. If it hasn’t been mentioned… While Googling “GoT news” I just saw articles saying that production will pause so the cast can all attend the wedding of Kit & Rose. I don’t know when that is but I think that’s pretty cool. With as long as they’re planning for production I don’t think days or a week or so will make much difference.

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    38. Thronetender: The last scene before the fall of the Wall was Bran going into a trance. Is it possible that the Wall hasn’t really fallen yet, and Bran still has time to warn everybody? Maybe?

      Bran wasn’t going into a trance; it wasn’t a greensight vision. Bran was warging on ravens. He was seeing the Wall fall in real time, through the ravens’ eyes.

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    39. Thronetender,

      I also think that Gendry may turn up at Winterfell with a delivery of dragonglass. I’m really looking forward to a reunion with Arya!

      BTW, Gendry won’t be forging any dragonglass. It’s obsidian, volcanic glass, very hard and brittle. It’s knapped like stone to fashion weapons, not forged like steel and other metals. He could, of course, help with making handles for axes or something, but I’m not sure how skilled he’d be at making arrows, which to me seem the best weapon. Unless a fan theory turns out to be true and Valyrian steel is made by forging ordinary steel with obsidian in the heat of a dragon’s fire… hmm… But there’s also another theory that making Valyrian steel requires a blood sacrafice… So will Arya get “nissa-nissaed” by Gendry to produce Valyrian steel, yikes! (No, I don’t think that will happen, just following a stray train of thought to its conclusion.)

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    40. Very happy to see Kristofer Hivju in Belfast!

      For a few moments while watching the finale I thought Tormund perished and nearly went into meltdown. But then I refused to believe he’s dead and realised he wasn’t necessarily on the part of the Wall that collapsed.

      I like Thronetender‘s idea of Tormund surviving the war and becoming an elder statesman for the Wildlings. That’s pretty much what I envisioned for him in my wish-fulfilment speculation/fantasy after season 4/book 5.

      Oh, and one character meet-up I’d love to see is Tormund and Jaime! With or without Brienne present.

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    41. Clob,

      Yes that should be a great thing to take a break for Kit’s wedding and also there might be another wedding in the show if Dany is pregnant, i definitely she Jon marrying her if they can have time to get that in the show, so Kit might have a real wedding and a character wedding during this time period.

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    42. lucy:
      I think I prefer these gumshoe shots from across the street or 10 pacesbehind (lol) better than posed selfies.

      I know, me too! 😀

      I love that shot of the backs of Kit Harington, Emilia Clarke and John Bradley. Or Jon Snow with his girlfriend and his best friend, aww… Apparently the three are good friends in real life.

      BTW, notice how Emilia’s newly bleached and bobbed hair is on a Stark style “manbun” – the hairstyle sported by Jon and Arya in S6/S7 and Ned in S1.

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    43. Luka Nieto: Bran wasn’t going into a trance; it wasn’t a greensight vision. Bran was warging on ravens. He was seeing the Wall fall in real time, through the ravens’ eyes.

      Agreed. I’m uncertain whether he warged them all or just the flock leader, presumably the raven whose eyes rolled up. Since we seemingly see through only one POV, rather than a crazy-quilt of images that looks like a Picasso analytical Cubist landscape, I took it to be a solo view. Maybe he went from raven to raven to raven ad infinitum. In the scene where Sam and Gilly fled the WW, a flock of ravens was there too, so old 3ER must have done that as well (unless it was Bran in the past!). Anything is possible–the 3ER had 1000 eyes and one, no? Maybe the 3ER drone-eyes automatically process into a single composite image. Who knows?

      Thronetender,

      Nope, nope, not Tormund. I’m basing my prediction mostly on hope, because it didn’t look to me that either Tormund or Beric made it out of the avalanche

      I hope they escaped. But GoT is famous for its creative deaths–they’d be the first named GoT characters who got ice-creamed, 🙂

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    44. Clob:
      If it hasn’t been mentioned…While Googling “GoT news” I just saw articles saying that production will pause so the cast can all attend the wedding of Kit & Rose.I don’t know when that is but I think that’s pretty cool.With as long as they’re planning for production I don’t think days or a week or so will make much difference.

      I’m not sure that’d be very good luck. 😜

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    45. Pigeon,

      Yeah, Game of Theones and weddings don’t seem like a happy combination, lol.

      I read it somewhere that Rose wants to have a proper big Scottish wedding with kilts and pipes and Highland dances and all, at her family’s castle in Scotland. (I think it’s her uncle who’s currently the laird.)

      It’d be lovely if Kit and Rose can have their friends and co-workers on GoT attend their wedding. So, apparently GoT production will take a few days off for the wedding… And then get back to work. So much for a honeymoon, Kit! lol!

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    46. Ten Bears,

      I think what exactly happens depends on the type of production and scale of it, as well as the number of actors involved. I imagine in a two-hander, theatre production the line between read-through and blocking might be slightly blurred. With this production it sounds like things might be more discrete. Pilou Asbeck said that he played the Dragon Pit scene as written and didn’t know that Cersei would be saying later that he was on his way to Essos for the Golden Company. With the security and leaks etc. the actors might only get copies of their scripted scenes and be grouped accordingly on the read through. I suspect blocking would come later as it involves all the tech side as well as the actors and of course they have to learn their lines in between.

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    47. Ten Bears,

      It’s not clear where Gendry might be but I think he would’ve left Eastwatch with Ser Davos. If they omit showing them travelling to Winterfell then I think he will arrivethere with the others.

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    48. Stark Raven’ Rad: Agreed.I’m uncertain whether he warged them all or just the flock leader, presumably the raven whose eyes rolled up.Since we seemingly see through only one POV, rather than a crazy-quilt of images that looks like a Picasso analytical Cubist landscape, I took it to be a solo view.Maybe he went from raven to raven to raven ad infinitum.In the scene where Sam and Gilly fled the WW, a flock of ravens was there too, so old 3ER must have done that as well (unless it was Bran in the past!).Anything is possible–the3ER had 1000 eyes and one, no?Maybe the 3ER drone-eyes automatically process into a single composite image.Who knows?

      It’s easy to miss but if I haven’t got my scenes confused then we see two or three of the ravens with the white eyeballs. Warging into multiple creatures was part of Bran’s progression this season.

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    49. Clob,

      Kit + Rose wedding will be a bigger news story than Prince William + Kate Middleton! I remenber all the hoopla surrounding the royal wedding back in 2011; I had even recorded it to watch the next day because of the time difference, but never did because it was drowned out by a bigger story the day after that. (Seal Team Six FTW 🇺🇸)

      I hope Jon Snow and Ygritte – I mean Kit Harington and Rose Leslie – announce that they’ve arranged for photographers for official wedding photographs to sate the public. Otherwise, there will be squadrons of drones buzzing overhead trying to get “exclusive” pictures of the bride and groom, and cast members in attendance.

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    50. Stormborn: When did Brienne and Gendry meet?

      Book thing.

      She met Gendry at the Inn at the Crossroads and first thought she was seeing Renly’s ghost but quickly realised he was too young. But still looked like Renly – who looked like young Robert.

      In the show, Brienne and Gendry have never met. But they might in S8, and her old connection to Renly might play some part.

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    51. Ten Bears,

      “As King in the North he has united those Wildlings with the northern houses so together they may face their common enemy.”

      – Melisandre S7e2

      Awww. Jon Snow finally gets to unite the North with the Wildlings through a marriage alliance.

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    52. Ten Bears,

      Huh? Bigger than Prince William and Kate Middleton? Like the public broadcaster in my country would broadcast it live? No, it’s just two British actors getting married, not a big deal. Certainly not at the level of a future Head of State in one of our European countris getting married.

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    53. talvikorppi: BTW, Gendry won’t be forging any dragonglass. It’s obsidian, volcanic glass, very hard and brittle. It’s knapped like stone to fashion weapons, not forged like steel and other metals. He could, of course, help with making handles for axes or something, but I’m not sure how skilled he’d be at making arrows, which to me seem the best weapon.

      You are correct, my bad. I should know that, too, with as many Discovery programs I’ve watched about how old weapons were produced. I’ve seen scenes of obsidian being knapped, flaked. That’s what I get for writing in the middle of the night. But still, I think Gendry went to Winterfell. That’s the plan Davos had for him originally.

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    54. talvikorppi,

      IMO, if Kit & Rose agreed on that, there would be plenty of TV companies ready to broadcast their wedding live (and they wouldn’t be short of watchers). But their private life is not a show, so I hope that the fandom will show a due respect to their privacy. However, I would be happy, if WOTW could think of something how we could send our best wishes to the happy couple ir a respectful way.

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    55. talvikorppi,

      It’d be lovely if Kit and Rose can have their friends and co-workers on GoT attend their wedding. So, apparently GoT production will take a few days off for the wedding

      I just hope they don’t invite the Dothraki–that would hold up production! LOL

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    56. talvikorppi: Book thing.

      She met Gendry at the Inn at the Crossroads and first thought she was seeing Renly’s ghost but quickly realised he was too young. But still looked like Renly – who looked like young Robert.

      In the show, Brienne and Gendry have never met. But they might in S8, and her old connection to Renly might play some part.

      Thanks!

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    57. Inga: However, I would be happy, if WOTW could think of something how we could send our best wishes to the happy couple ir a respectful way.

      I’d like that too. Just to wish them good luck and best wishes. So cool, that they got together because of the show, stayed together, and want to venture into the future together. Yay love!

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    58. Stark Raven’ Rad:
      talvikorppi,

      It’d be lovely if Kit and Rose can have their friends and co-workers on GoT attend their wedding. So, apparently GoT production will take a few days off for the wedding

      I just hope they don’t invite the Dothraki–that would hold up production! LOL

      I agree. It’s best they don’t invite the Dothraki.
      For them, a “wedding without at least three deaths is considered a dull affair.”

      – Illyrio, S1e1

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    59. Luka Nieto,

      I think Tormund will be in the final episode and be the latter part of ‘bitter – sweet’. Just a guess, but fan love will rule the day. He gets his Brienne and monster babies.

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    60. Thronetender: I’d like that too. Just to wish them good luck and best wishes. So cool, that they got together because of the show, stayed together, and want to venture into the future together.Yay love!

      Superb idea! Perhaps we can somehow. If we do, we can sign it:

      Well-wishers on the Wall (at http://watchersonthewall.com)

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    61. Inga:

      Gendry may be in this dragonglass delivery team, too.

      “Dragonglass delivery team.” LMAO!!! I now have a mental image of cheery UPS-style deliverymen roaming the North in knickers, Uggs and Ikea fake furs, dropping off dragonglass weapons to castles on the Wall and remote villages.

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    62. talvikorppi:
      Ten Bears,

      Huh? Bigger than Prince William and Kate Middleton? Like the public broadcaster in my country would broadcast it live? No, it’s just two British actors getting married, not a big deal. Certainly not at the level of a future Head of State in one of our European countris getting married.

      Well, we don’t have a future Head of State here in the U.S.

      I’m not so sure we have a current Head of State here either.

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